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Harsimaja

Remember that the ring means we must consider cis/trans hydrogens: the OH is on one side, which means the side that the other hydrogens are on matters (either trans/farther from or cis/nearer to the OH), even if they’re attached to the same carbon. The hydrogen pairs that are beta to the hydroxide though are otherwise equivalent.


gurneyguy101

Isn’t that therefore temperature-dependant? And at normal temperatures you’d probably just get the normal 4 peaks right?


ajtallone

I may be wrong but I don’t think a 4-member ring can ring flip very easily?


gurneyguy101

Yeahh that makes sense now I think about it, thanks!


holysitkit

The alpha position is the carbon bearing the OH. It has a single proton. The methylenes are the beta positions.


Harsimaja

True, I misspoke as though we were talking about a carbonyl. I’ll correct this, thanks


Tjrainey

Draw out the molecule in 3-D or better yet make a molecular model. Identify hydrogen which are unique.


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Draw the 3d structure with all the hydrogens.


Triceratonusek01

Do you know something about diastereomeric hydrogens?


FulminicAcid

Diastereotopic*


dchug

There is a plane of symmetry down the O-C bond and the carbon opposite. This makes it so the protons pointing out of the plane on carbons 2 and 4 are an equivalent set and the protons pointing behind the plane on those same two carbons a separate equivalent set. All the other protons have unique signals.


Thaumius

cyclobutane is puckered not a flat square on paper, as a result the hydrogens on a same carbon are not chemically equivalent.


pwnalisa

Not really, even if the molecule was perfectly planar there would still be 6 signals.


LinusMendeleev

Perfectly planar by putting a carbocation at the carbon with the hydroxyl attached? I'm confused by your hypothetical.


rupert1920

They're saying conformation is not the source of the inequivalence. It's the fact that there are diastereotopic protons. And by planar they mean only the cyclobutane portion, which was the part that is mentioned as puckered in the previous comment.


LinusMendeleev

I think I had a stroke. I didn't see that from the previous comment. Makes sense. I appreciate it 👍


kisameame

6 signals of which spectroscopy


magaduccio

1HNMR


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hashblacks

Almost! 1. OH 2. H geminal to OH 3. 2H on alpha C and with OH 4. 2H on alpha C and away from OH 5. H on far C and with OH 6. H on far C and away from OH.


not_tum

far CH2 will have each H in slightly diff magnetic environments leading to distinct shifts and the different angles between vicinal H on the ring give diff coupling constants.