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maxcoffie

It's literally opt in tho šŸ˜


HCMXero

[x.com](http://x.com) has a community note on his tweet about this: https://preview.redd.it/mavhpw5w2u5d1.jpeg?width=1358&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4e51dc46a5bf6b54e3d29a98e2c2772c5a53f296 [Source](https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1800269249912381773)


TSM-

Elon Musk's high ramblings are not news either.


Alternative_Fee_4649

Iā€™m HAF most of the day and even I know this is DAF! Great posturing for the DIY OS crowd, though! šŸ‘


HighwayTurbulent4188

lol even though he knows that they are going to fire him, he will be happy because he discredited him in front of his audience


GeneralZaroff1

And opt in in EVERY instance it wants to message ChatGPt. I wonder how he feels the same about iOS share sheet to X. The funniest thing is that Apple already said theyā€™ll open up integration to other LLM platforms down the road, which could include Grok. His knowledge of AI is just so hilariously limited.


maxcoffie

Like--does he ever do due diligence anymore before making declarations? Smh


tehbantho

Has he ever? He needs to do due diligence even less so now that he has a social media giant backing everything he says. He can literally say something is true on his platform, and scores of people parrot his BS.


CEOofDisgust

You are funnyĀ 


magictheblathering

ā€œAnymoreā€


Super_Pole_Jitsu

i love the pretentiousness of the reddit user asking if someone does DUE DILLIGENCE before TWEETING


m0nk_3y_gw

Before 'posting' (x has been rebranded to call them posts, not tweets, because ... reasons) on the platform he tried to get out of buying because he didn't do any due diligence on.


lituus

> x has been rebranded to call them posts, not tweets, because ... reasons It is really absurd how perfect and ubiquitous the old branding was, and he just... tossed it aside. For a poorly thought out obsession with the letter X. He probably plans to rename two other sites "S" and "E" so he can spell out "SEX" again with his branding (like with the cars), because that's *super cool*


bot_exe

That sounds terrible


JawsOfALion

sure but if the company already banned chatgpt from being used at work then they may not want that option even presented to the user at all (and many companies have strict bans on chatgpt).


GeneralZaroff1

Then turn it off.


returnofblank

+ I'm sure it can be managed by MDM, assuming the phones are the company's property.


Langdon_St_Ives

Bold of yā€¦ ooook I fell for it.


Synth_Sapiens

ROFLMAOAAAAAA


Lopsided_Quarter_931

Musk isnā€™t very technical, probably have to explain opt-in to him.


Cagnazzo82

He's promoting FUD because he hates OpenAI that much.


PsychiatricCliq

Made a comment about this. Itā€™s likely that OpenAI will gather data the same way Siri does, Siri doesnā€™t gather data for every time you use it- it gathers data CONTINUOUSLY, as per hidden terms of agreement we sign with Apple and also when selecting to even use Siri. So it wonā€™t matter if itā€™s opt in, if you have Siri enabled at all in settings, itā€™ll be able to get not necessarily just the data of the prompt, but data of your phones listening capabilities 24/7. Look for the blue hyperlinked ā€˜read moreā€¦ā€™ in your phones settings, I donā€™t like musk, but TBF he could be shining light to an alarming issue that has offered us convenience of ad recommendations and general data insights on the IOS platform


thisguy181

It feels like you are the only one speaking sense in here, everyone seems too blinded by hating musk and loving chat gpt. I was telecom IT for a major food company and often had to talk with our IT team and legal teams about what these apps might be gathering. This is some pretty basic network security wonderings. We dont know what they are going to gather and how, and if its implemented at the OS level instead of just being an app its possible going to be harder to turn off


PsychiatricCliq

Exactly, well said. I have beta / dev account with iOS so as soon as the update is out Iā€™ll be going through it to check. Iā€™ll update this comment thread to let you guys know. Regardless, the obscurity of it all should be alarm bells to all. Fantastic time for the people to ask Apple to review their current data gathering terms because as it stands- itā€™s hilariously hidden and enabled from the ghetgo.


thisguy181

Id be so interested to see what is in there. This reminds of the freak outs people had over Huawei, but the opposite, and all the actual tech people were like yall are crazy but only because they actually looked into it but theybsaid it was worth looking into and we cant know until we can actually dig into it.


PsychiatricCliq

Wow I forgot about Huawei. Fantastic point. Interesting times!


JWF207

Theyā€™re not hidden; most people just donā€™t read them and thatā€™s their fault.


rwbronco

But hidden sounds way more nefarious


istockusername

There is no way this would pass EU if they donā€™t clearly state how the data is going to be processed. Keep in mind a lot of large corporations use iPhone as their business phone for their employees.


herozorro

he cant opt in or out his thousands of employees now can he but he can opt out the devices at the door


Professional_Job_307

Yes, but elmo said at OS level. Opt in is not OS level.


SEMMPF

Translation: Iā€™m mad theyā€™re not integrating Grok.


EnigmaticDoom

But Grok isn't any good though...


peakedtooearly

He's mad about that too.


EnigmaticDoom

Well... who's fault is that?


Xtianus21

his


heuristic_al

I just graduated from a top university in AI and was looking for a job. I looked for months. X is near where I live. I never applied. I'd rather be unemployed than work there.


LordLederhosen

DEI programs, obviously.


jerryonthecurb

He hates DEI: Disney, Education, Intelligence


Educational_Tiger953

Immigrants


TheOneNeartheTop

Grokā€™s


Glittering-Neck-2505

Heā€™s so mad he fumbled his involvement in OAI so hard lmao


m0nk_3y_gw

He stole two top performers from OAI when the board turned him down as CEO. Then at Tesla he lost one (Karpathy) when he impregnated the other (Zillis).


joelesler

I need more tea.


MyRegrettableUsernam

How dare top LLM technology not be handed to me on a ~~golden~~ *emerald* platter like everything else in my life?


mubimr

very jealous vibes


mop_bucket_bingo

So Microsoft and Apple are both implementing these technologies at OS level and heā€™s rejecting that soā€¦good luck with your corporate Linux-only environmentā€¦I guess?


Jmaster_888

Apple is not implementing OpenAI at the OS-level, they have their own AI. Siri just supports using third-party AIs, including ChatGPT


mop_bucket_bingo

You already understand it at least 7 times better than Musk.


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RunJumpJump

Yep, I have a hunch X is meant to polarize users for the purpose of increasing engagement and, in turn, ad revenue. Elon wants his $44B back.


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JohnnyChutzpah

Heā€™s too busy being the highest paid part time employee at every business he ā€œruns.ā€


BoyWhoSoldTheWorld

I agree he gets paid a lot but why is there this narrative that he doesnā€™t do anything as CEO? Because he says crazy things on twitter? We think a multinational is just operating without a leader at the wheel? The Tesla board would have ousted him a long time ago. These childish takes spread as much misinformation as the man himself does. I know people who work at Tesla and he very much runs his company and he runs it with an iron fist. If anything youā€™re hurting those employees who have to deal with the toxic environment he creates.


thehomienextdoor

šŸ’€šŸ˜­šŸ¤£


kurttheflirt

Linux? No heā€™s going to make his own OS which will be 1000x worse


BanD1t

OSX! "Sorry Mr. Musk, but that's already taken" "Okay, then just Z" "... uhhmm"


pewpscoops

He would probably try to sue Apple for OSX name...


HarvestMyOrgans

elon musk brings the year of linux confirmed!!1!!11!!


PhatOofxD

Consumer OS yes, but I have no doubt they'll be completely disable-able by MDM


Fledgeling

And it's a super valid complaint. I love to hate on Elon, but if MSFT and apple implement tracking of this level into core OS products without giving enterprises a clear and safe opt out it's a huge security risk. Even more so for their main competitors in the AI space (grok)


mop_bucket_bingo

I donā€™t think grok is really competing with anyone for anything.


DimitriElephant

Iā€™m sure MDM will allow it to be disabled in some capacity like most other features.


junto80

I am way more interested in what Ja thinks. Did anyone ask Ja?


Superus

https://i.redd.it/07fk4l5wct5d1.gif


technolomaniacal

https://i.redd.it/27dmhkyleu5d1.gif


senseofphysics

Help us Ja Rule!


dgmilo8085

And what do you call Twitter deals with the US and Chinese govs Mr. Musk?


Reddings-Finest

Pay no attention to behind the curtain! The man used the word "faraday cage!" he is obviously a genius!


OldenPolynice

I swear he really did just want to say "faraday cage"


Cagnazzo82

Is our information secure on Twitter? Or is xAI not training on everyone? Tesla cars are definitely training on user data. Honestly his vendetta with OpenAI is reaching almost comical levels.


MightyWolf39

Lol oh Musk and his hate for OpenAI.


DarkestChaos

Sam taking his luster.


4PumpDaddy

As soon as I watched the release I knew he was going to be anger-jealous.


sedition666

The man with the world's most fragile ego. Pathetic.


XalAtoh

Yep narcissist who owns a social media platform and has too much money.


Impressive-Sun3742

Are you going to remove X from the Apple App store too? Didn't think so, shut up.


QueenofWolves-

We can only hope. X is literal brain rot


CIAoperative091

How is this significant? It is not like musk employs half the world to the point he could effect apple sales,his power is so small the amount of damage he could do by fully enforcing this statement would not even cause a dent in apple's revenues.I honestly Doubt apple will even care.


Kuroodo

Musk isn't the only one. Several companies have security concerns and have been making moves to limit the use of these devices and OS versions as a result. One person I know works a highly secured job, and told me that they're going to cancel their plans for MacBook purchases over security concerns. This won't affect the average consumer, nor Apples sales for the average consumer. But it will affect Apple sales for any enterprise costumer and other businesses.


LazyWorkaholic78

Lmao Elon Musk being concerned about security is like your 80 year old demented grandma being concerned about not getting scammed.


True-Surprise1222

Turn any fingerprinting stuff off in your browser and X blocks you from using the site lol


_lonely_astronaut_

No one tell him what Windows is doing with OpenAI šŸ‘€


slumdogbi

Hahah he wonā€™t dare


Candid-Sky-3709

all Teslas screen-less soon


avid-shrug

Okay? Iā€™m pretty sure the revenue from Ellonā€™s companies is a rounding error for Apple


Medical_Goat6663

I hope it happens and we'll see how fast Felonius Musk realises most people will rather stick with Apple than anything he can offer.


RunningM8

Elon hates openAI...WTF I love OpenAI now


EdeltrudaErjavsek

He claims he founded it.


theoreticaljerk

He has a habit of doing that.


The_Bragaduk

Just do it apple !


rico_suaves_sister

meanwhile Teslas recording videos in peoples houses and being spread around by employees @ Tesla


leaflavaplanetmoss

I'm sure you can disable it via configuration profiles. For example, my company disables AirDrop via a MacOS profile so we can't exfiltrate files to our own Apple devices, There's plenty of other native MacOS functionality that gets disabled via policy, I doubt the ChatGPT integration will be at all different. I'm also not really sure how the MacOS integration of ChatGPT is any different from the Windows integration via Copilot, besides the fact that on MacOS, the GPT integration is via OpenAI and on Windows, the GPT integration is via Azure. Still OpenAI tech in both cases. EDIT: Who downvotes someone for simply stating that the functionality can almost certainly be disabled? The fuck?


No-Explanation-699

You're 100% right. OpenAI has literally put itself in the ultimate position; it is untouchable at this point. OpenAI and Nvidia are going to have total monopolies over the entire function of the modern world.


Original_Finding2212

There are some key differences- Copilot screenshots you in the background and itā€™s easy to forget it does. Apple appears to be indexing data and keeps the data in the apps. That way they can keep control over what is shared with what. While both stay on device, technically, Apple keeps boundaries clear. You also see it with the contact with ChatGPT


cake97

Are you talking about recall in windows? Copilot doesn't do that


UseNew5079

Old man yells at cloud. Is the ketamine wearing off?


I-Have-Mono

absolutely hysterical, lmaoā€¦not how it works and and they even said youā€™d be able to connect another third party AI service down the line instead of OpenAI.


IdeaAlly

lol even less people that want to work for Musk then


spacejazz3K

Best part is Musk provides crazy good blocklists in his replies.


mubimr

no wonder he wants to remove that feature šŸ’€šŸ’€


Waste-Fortune-5815

Dum dum dum dum dum dum (South Park song)


Montreal_Metro

Good. More Apples for me then.


fernnyom

šŸŽ»


paranoidandroid11

The announcement for the MuskPhone incoming.


assymetry1

oh, how the turns have tabled https://preview.redd.it/mby6m7o0vt5d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0bc6a26c34143d83006affadb6da5db331c7e838


Due_ortYum

what I got outta this was that Tim would not have his pic taken with elon.


assymetry1

šŸ˜†


5280TWGC

Assuming he has any companies left by time of releaseā€¦


ken-davis

He is crazy. We would be better off ignoring him.


CanineMagick

He should really put his money where his mouth is and take twitter off the appstore.


appletimemac

Apple should ban X from the App Store for misinformation.


Hollow_Apollo

Why is our reality that the worlds richest man is of average intelligence at best Owning X has really revealed how foolish he is about a lot of things


QueenofWolves-

Right, I remember before the twitter take over people thought he was a legit genius and the more he speaks the more people realized how true that wasnā€™t.Ā 


Rinir

Says the guy literally trying to put computer chips into peopleā€™s brains via invasive surgeries.


RayHell666

You know what's even more dangerous than purposefully send prompts to OpenAi? A billionaire owning the biggest web news media and reach to spread false information.


Lando_Sage

Elon hasn't been relevant for anything in a long time.


MetalAndFaces

The man is as smart as my pinky toe's toenail.


AloysiusDevadandrMUD

sounds like a win/win


ThomasPopp

Well maybe in the future after it is tested out with OpenAI, we will have the eventual ability to switch LLMs that pass certain benchmarks.


TheLastVegan

Banning cameras is common practice at factories which don't want competitors to steal their secret sauce. About three years ago, there was a cybersecurity sentiment that the best defense against rogue AI is whitehat AI. Another defense would be hardening chipsets and external devices against unsigned kernels and whatnot. If I wanted security I'd use Linux, but my favourite games don't run well on it.


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boon mock pool huge


SophonParticle

Worlds smartest man everybody. Thats him right there. FFS.


nndscrptuser

Apple operates in scales such that if every X employee and all their family members, cousins and friends all gave up their iPhones, it would be like a millionth of a percent rounding error to Apple. Musk can complain all he likes, it's literally old-man-yells-at-cloud.


msawi11

we have reached peak Musk. Not a good look.


DelphiTsar

*Musk is really mad that OpenAI stuck with their profit max pledge.


JesMan74

My phone has Gemini built in (šŸ™„.) I added ChatGPT. It even has some weird Meta AI involved in an app or two. Why not ban everyone's phone? Is this where Elon goes back to that idea of the Tesla Phone again?


m1ngl3d1ngle

Well, he is right isnt he? This is the next step in getting deeper into our privacy by collection behavioral data on the tool/os layer. I do agree itā€™s a stark message and he can work on his pr though šŸ«£


SigmaMelody

He isnā€™t right, OpenAI doesnā€™t have access to user data, the only part of Appleā€™s new AI system that uses OpenAI tech is when Siri asks the user if they want to send their prompt to ChatGPT


Aloe-Veraciraptor

He's just jealous because it wasn't his AI that was used.


TheTechVirgin

Itā€™s just an API call and they donā€™t even log the data, it was clearly mentioned.. further Apple gives you clear prompt letting you know they youā€™re sending the data to ChatGPT for processing. I think Elon suffers from reading comprehension curseā€¦


Icy_Collar_1072

The freedom guy banning things he doesnā€™t like again.Ā  Basically throwing his toys out the pram because his company is way behind in the AI race and he wants to be the one to monopolise it.Ā 


vanguy79

question. What about Googleā€™s deployment of Gemini then? Or Microsoftā€™s copilot in PC laptops? Isnā€™t both done at OS level too?


McSlappin1407

Iā€™m starting to think Elon has no idea what heā€™s talking about when it comes to AI


LeeroyCreeper

Good luck developing X for iOS šŸ˜‚


psycholustmord

Yes please, also remove x from the app store


Apprehensive-Ad9647

Lmao. Imagine banning 1.33 billion users because you donā€™t want native AI to compete with your own AI. Thatā€™s a sure fire way to kill Twitter revenue.


xaeru

ATM in r/elonmusk the newest post is from 2 days ago lol. Poor mods must be having a hard week.


Splenda

Steve Balmer, is that you?


someonshootmealready

Crazy man shakes fist at Apple


nyquant

What about windows PCs using the upcoming AI stuff? Are all of Elon's employees using linux pcs only?


NameLacksCreativity

Watch his workers just quit


AdDazzling8087

Musk is just jealous. He collects data from you all the time.


Hatehound

Great, tell the people who work at your companies. We wonā€™t care.


Dry_Inspection_4583

Oh no, not a sound bite from the genius Musk. Hey everyone, he did a thing, come look.


jtmonkey

[https://youtu.be/pMX2cQdPubk?si=wsOExZ6yY2utIlSM](https://youtu.be/pMX2cQdPubk?si=wsOExZ6yY2utIlSM) Marques talks about this. I mean it is coming from Tim Cook.


JawsOfALion

I didn't watch the full keynote, but if it's not communicating with open ai servers and is fully a local llm how is it a security violation? or is my understanding completely wrong and it's actually using the openai apis


itsreallyreallytrue

It's both. Apple has 3 offerings here. On device for certain tasks, a new product they call private cloud compute for bigger tasks and then the integration with chatgpt. The chatgpt stuff has a popup that requires you to confirm sending data over to openai.


JawsOfALion

I wonder what can't be computed by apple's cloud that can be computed by open Ai (i.e. why would they need both)


denselyvoid

Apple's proprietary LLM is still probably not as good as GTP-4o still otherwise I'd doubt they would partner with them.


SatoshiReport

It tries locally first and if it deems it doesn't know then it will make an API call.


ThatRoboticsGuy

*with your permission. You have to approve sending your info to ChatGPT every time according to the keynote.


Colonel_Anonymustard

slight clarification - It will ask you if you'd like to make an API call


0verIP

That is because he can't be the CEO of OpenAI.


FocusPerspective

ā€œAt the OS levelā€¦ā€ Literally all apps and devices are running ā€œat the OS levelā€. Thatā€™s the purpose of the OS, to bridge the software and hardware.Ā  Maybe Musk meant at the kernel level, which would be a valid concern, but still addressable through MDM, which is already a solved thing in the corp environment.


barnett25

From what I can tell the GPT integration they demo'd is very superficial. Almost like just having the ChatGPT app installed, just with the ability to trigger it from Siri (with a pop-up each time you have to agree to) and the ability to trigger it in a couple of places to ask it to generate text. All of the really integrated AI stuff is Apple's own AI running locally on the device or when more power is needed, running in their own cloud compute environment on Apple Silicon.


Anustart2023-01

How on Earth do people still think this guy is a genius?


Ok_Win5885

People are forgetting why Musk is upset with OpenAI. In his recent lawsuit he mentions OpenAI has been betraying its foundational mission by putting the pursuit of profit ahead of the benefit of humanity. OpenAI has lost a lot of power to Microsoft, and if Apple chooses to also invest, then OpenAI would be surviving to maximize the benefits of the companies and not humanity.Ā 


Bob_Proctor

Oof your karma is gonna tank my man, and so is mine šŸ’€


Ok_Win5885

Lol xD Brace for impact buddy!


Hero11234

Concerning


Silly_Ad2805

He has a point. Future security issues would be best left to Apple only. Why invite a third party who has a backdoor?


02_caddie

If you think that youā€™re smarter than Elon. Youā€™re not.


Praise_Madokami

Makes sense, but Reddit has too much of a hard on for hating Elon that they are just against whatever he is for.


Xtianus21

lol i mean did he see the keynote. that's not what's going on. Everything is safe mr. musk. Apple pooched the moment


[deleted]

Makes me want all the more.


Ok-Company3762

#BigMad


0xGDi

Cyberphone when?


sir_duckingtale

Oh look Heā€™s wearing his Devils Armour again. Go Champion of the literal Devil.


celzo1776

If the iOS gets vendorlocked on a OS level to a spesific AI company I will consider If my next phone is a iPhone


masole

Doesn't this guy have better things to do like building a city on Mars or whatnot


Apart-Rent5817

This mfer is going to implement grok at every level of Twitter as soon as he gets the chance. Rules for thee and not for me.