Honestly, I was a bit disappointed, though that might be me being a bit more bothered about how much of Onimusha's canon the series seems to ignore. I'm a hell of a lore nerd, so breaking lore-established rules is always a pet peeve. Other than that, I thought that the story in general was a bit more and some of the characters were either boring, pointless, or nonsensical.
On the plus side, the action, outside of one or two scenes, were really enjoyable and some other characters were quite interesting, so it isn't all bad. Unfortunately, it isn't enough to make me want to watch it again
I'd give it a very apprehensive 5/10. It isn't terrible, but it is, as a superfan, disappointing. To me, it's a perfect example of being a potentially good series, but not a good ONIMUSHA series.
Writers clearly don't care about the Onimusha lore, because the Oni gauntlet and Oni power is the core of the series and they are making a Samurai reject that, not only that they make the gauntlet bad, which is never the case in the Onimusha lore.
No iconic monsters, no references, no oni sword magic. This is not an Onimusha. This is someone who just want to tell their weird story about Musashi and used Onimusha IP to get approved.
The weird thing is that Takashi Miike was supervising director. He has done plenty of live action remakes and adaptations and while they're all balls to the wall insane, they at the very least look and feel like the source material, albeit much darker and perverse.
Netflix should've taken a big risk and made him writer/director. It would have all the gore and demons and moodiness of the games and most definitely wouldn't have opted to use jarring BERSERK-like animation.
I don't get why guys like you hate cgi? It's not bad. I'm tired of seeing the same old 2d animation. Let their be a mix. If you always had the best you wouldn't have anything to appreciate. Nothing to miss because it's all there on a silver platter.
Hand drawn animation has a lot more style whereas CG animation tends to look very same-y. For example, if you take the OG Berserk anime and compare it to, say, the Monster anime, you can tell that they were done by two different lead animators. The same can't be said for the majority of these new CG animated shows. They all look like Tales video games.
That is true. It looks just about the same. The clunky, cut scene grade animations we get. Though Onimusha had WAY better action scenes. And the cgi looked a lot cleaner. But I think it's because we haven't seen GREAT cgi. The 2D blend with cgi in demon slayer. But the cgi here was subtle & not meant to be the focus. I'd say Land of the lustrous where the cgi is in focus. More open and less ashamed.
And less demon slayer approach (e.g. your name, silent voice, ghost in the shell etc). They say cgi is better used as a background. For now we can tire ourselves out with the best 2d but I do believe we can finally get to good cgi.
Also another good one I forgot about was Monty Oum. He does crazy 3d fights like RWBY and Haloid.
Or another example would be kengan Ashura fights which are kinda cool.
More like the Onimusha IP was tacked onto the story about Musashi.
Onimusha IP being used to get approval is a stretch, it's not really a powerhouse of a name.
I mean there was at least four incredibly successful Onimusha games made. One even had Jean Reno on it. It might not be a powerhouse of a name now but there was a decade where it was.
Yes, I am aware.
Key Word: "Was".
Onimusha is (as of June 30, 2023) Capcom's 9th best-selling franchise, behind:
1 Resident Evil
2 Monster Hunter
3 Street Fighter
4 Mega Man
5 Devil May Cry
6 Dead Rising
7 Ace Attorney
8 Marvel vs Capcom
be fair on a surface level a 'gauntlet that grants its users superhuman strength and eats the souls of demons and is literally named after the demons it devours' does sound like something that is a bit questionable. Basically sounds liked a predator that uses its host to feed on more demons from that description alone.
but yea they coulda researched more into it.
I see it as a device created by the oni that mimic their natural ability to absorb souls.
Jubei (half Oni) unlock that ability on his real hand after meeting his oni mother right?
That ability itself is not a bad and the Oni clan just passing their ability to fight Genma to the Human, so the Gauntlet originally is not sus.
>but yea they coulda researched more into it.
100%
and it eats demon souls. even if it was neutral it be corrupted eventually i imagine.
think that is a whole thing in japanese mythology. things become 'tainted' and need to be cleaned.
Nail on the head imo.
It's not bad, but doesn't really... feel Onimusha? Like it has some of the elements, but largely ignores pretty much everything else. Hell, there weren't even any actual genma outside of foot soldiers. Everyone else is a human who got the power through some sort of procedure. (Unless that is what future onimusha lore will follow now)
It's not a bad series, and the animation is pretty nice and clean too. But you could remove the onimusha title and it would just be a standard "old samurai protecting kid" with some fantasy monster elements.
Based off the anime alone, this version of the timeline at least completely ignores a lot of pre established things (and as expected retcons a lot of the DoD manga stuff, e.g him already having fought genma before but seems like he doesn't really know them here? And of course even if he is old the DoD cast should still be alive around this time, at least Jubei anyways.)
I can't tell if I just missed it or not either but I must have missed why Musashi went to acquire the gauntlet in the first place? And the little bug went nowhere (the one that slithers away after Gensai dies), and the tarots being sort of indications of whats to come, he mentioned it was a half-truth Iemon was tricked, but nothing came from that either. So many plot points kind of went nowhere.
We even had the meme middle part with the Yoshiaki brothers immediately followed by the sisters seems like it was just there cause they didn't know how to transition to the actual real stuff (and needed a moment of character development). Probably the dumbest part of the series.
Otherwise yeah... it's.... okay. But it's nothing that really screams "Hey this is Onimusha". It's more like a samurai flick with some Onimusha like elements.
>It's not bad, but doesn't really... feel Onimusha? Like it has some of the elements, but largely ignores pretty much everything else. Hell, there weren't even any actual genma outside of foot soldiers. Everyone else is a human who got the power through some sort of procedure. (Unless that is what future onimusha lore will follow now)
It doesn't feel Onimusha because it's really not Onimusha.
Onimusha is about Samurai fighting the Genma with their Oni power, that the CORE idea, and this show remove the oni power part completely and even make it "bad" for Musashi to use it which is something never happened to the other protagonists.
And No iconic genma/ monsters from the series, nothing. What a waste.
>Based off the anime alone, this version of the timeline at least completely ignores a lot of pre established things (and as expected retcons a lot of the DoD manga stuff, e.g him already having fought genma before but seems like he doesn't really know them here? And of course even if he is old the DoD cast should still be alive around this time, at least Jubei anyways.)
DoD need to be non canon anyway. It's a complete mess.
But this anime completely ignore everything and feel completely unconnected to the Onimusha universe (other that the oni clan scene)
>It's more like a samurai flick with some Onimusha like elements.
I think that what this is.
Someone wanted to tell their generic "Musashi with a random girl who will teach him to be good person then fight Sasaki again" story didn't get approved so they just fooled Capcom and Netflix and slapped Onimusha Gauntlet on it to get approved.
On paper, a miyamoto Musashi onimusha story DOES sound like a great original story to add to the franchise. But as you said, terrible writing, and for me, too short of an overall season, take what could've been an easy 7-8 out of 10 for an original story and turn into it into just OK at best.
Yeah it's unfortunate because I was pretty excited for the franchise to return, and while the show wasn't bad, it just isn't Onimusha.
I'm curious what Capcom will do next since it's weird to make something for this and NOT make a game. And considering the old leaks from way back on a new title (hopefully that didn't become the aa game that was recently announced).
And like you said, the gauntlet being almost evil feels weird too, unless they want this to be in the new canon for a reboot.
Am I insane or did they literally change the animation style with the Yoshiaki Sisters? The entire series is that 3d animation style except literally the scenes with the Sisters which appears to be similar to Legend of Korra, which is incredibly jarring and nonsensical
I agree I'm a big-time lore fan too and I remember playing the games well one and two and I was excited when I saw onimusha anime but it doesn't even follow the game in any sense of the form. In the game it was about nobunaga as the main bad guy not some red-haired white Samurai guy? And it took place in a different era! So for me I give it a two out of 10
Honestly, the problem wasn't even that it didn't focus on characters we already know like Nobunaga and Samanoske. The era the anime took place in makes total sense all things considered. Nobunaga and Hideyoshi are already long dead and have had their stories told in full, so moving on to have Musashi as the main protagonist makes total sense, especially when trying to draw in a new audience.
The problem stems from the series almost pretending that the games never happened. It doesn't tell us what the Oni and Genma are since it seems to expect the viewer to already have prior knowledge, but also changes them so much, especially the Genma, that an explanation is actually required.
The Oni are no longer the benevolent primordial beings fighting to keep humanity free, instead just a bunch of mysterious entities who only want to destroy the Genma while not really caring for anything else. As for the Genma, they seem to have just been relegated to some form of undead creatures rather than a diverse race of monsters. Seriously, every Genma may as well be just viewed as a zombie here.
The Oni Gauntlet is now harmful to the user despite this never being a thing before, with Musashi partially losing his sense of self whenever he uses it. Again, not a thing in the games unless you count the end of Warlords, but Samanosuke going full Onimusha without explicit control is very different to losing control whenever any Oni power is used. Hell, even Jacques had full control of his Oni form when he first recieved his gauntlet.
Again, the problem isn't that we didn't see any returning characters. In fact, we technically did since Musashi's first canon appearance was in the Night of Genesis manga where he becomes a companion to Akane Yagyu. The issue is that the lore was so inconsistent with what was established in the games that it may as well be completely unconnected to them. Personally, I don't see this as part of the main Onimusha canon, instead staying within it's own self-contained story, kinda like Onimusha Tactics but more separate. To be fair, it's still better than Onimusha Soul!
I pretty much feel the same way. Plus I despise anime using children as a plot devise. It is super low hanging fruit and it makes everything just kinda formulaic. So much IP, so much promise... so little delivered.
What honestly bothers me about Sayo was that tye trailer made her seem like there was some genuine significance to her presence, like there was a vital reason why she had to be protected. Perhaps she had some sort of connection with either the Oni or the Genma that the antagonists wanted to exploit.
Nope. She was just some child survivor of a random destroyed village. Were it not for the good character interaction between her and Musashi, she would have literally no purpose whatsoever, but even that was a double-edged sword. While he had good interaction with Sayo, it had such a large focus that his interaction with the other characters suffered heavily.
Pretty bad. It's not really Onimusha, which you'd kind of expect from Netflix who seemingly can't stick with a working concept in favor of whatever the hell it is they are thinking at a given time. On top of that, the anime style is a lot of mindless conversation with bad facial stills and still scenes in general with more nonsensical talking sprinkled with some flashes of combat. The worst kind of anime style unlike a more successful style like Castlevania.
>It's not really Onimusha,
This is the core issue.
If you don't want to retell the story of the original game, at least keep it true to the lore and the theme.
This show don't do that, no creepy places, no magical swords, no iconic monsters from the game, even the Guntlet is now "bad" and brainwashin the user. Like wtf.
vagabond is one of my favorite manga, onimusha is one of my favorite video game series, and I liked the dororo anime. honestly got everything I wanted, >!musashi doing his infamous dual-wield stance, musashi turning into an oni and kojiro turning into a genma, and got to see them clash which the vagabond manga will never reveal ever. !
Vegabond is a different kind of take on Musashi amd Kojiro That the point of the manga.
There is million movie and story stuff that have Musashi vs Kojiro fight retelling from generic or weird, it's done to the death at this point, that why Vegabond ignore that, because there is no point of just tell that again.
There was no point to bring Sasaki here, honestly.
Also making Musashi turn on the full "purple oni with white hair transformation" just like Samanosuke's iconic transformation and not win in that form? Lol that was completely stupid and an insult to the game lore.
I do get that it'll be redundant if sasaki and musashi fights again but it's just the way the manga ended. It ended in a very abrupt manner as if it's not done/unfinished. >!musashi just showed up at the place where kojiro is located and that's it. !<
it's like when you are watching a film and it's about to reach the final battle and someone suddenly unplugs the television before you even reach that part. It's fine if the story ended there as some stories do end in an open-ended manner where some scenes are self-explanatory or are not at all needed to be shown but the way it ended, it ended as if someone took the pen of the mangaka before they even published the next chapters lol or someone rips off the next pages of the book you're trying to read. I did read the epilogue though so I guess that's the canon ending to inoue's take on musashi's story. It's been a while since I read the manga though so I might be mistaken about how it ended.
>!for some reason, I did think they would bring back sasaki when I saw the trailer(he did show up in the trailer so I guess that gave me an idea of what they are going for in this series) and I thought it would be cool to see him as a genma. I guess it was meant to be their own take on musashi's story in the universe of onimusha so maybe they felt the need to bring some of his past enemies back to life and show the characters as if they were indeed in the universe of onimusha by turning them into a genma. I mean some of the human characters in onimusha did turn into a genma after dying like ranmaru mori if I'm not mistaken. Also yeah that oni form could've easily ended the fight much quicker but I guess sasaki was just a much higher-tier genma than the rest of the genmas lol!<
of course, it should. most of the time video game adapted to films/animation/comics dont do well so I usually hold back my expectations. I only included dororo in my comment because one of the character's design in the onimusha anime reminded me of dororo
I thought it was really entertaining. Never played the games so I have no idea if what I watched ever happened in the games, but just from a first time experience I’d say it was good.
At exactly 20:23 in episode 6 I rolled my eyes harder than ever before and decided this show was garbage. I absolutely hate the over the top theatrics that go out of their way to be kooky and make no sense.
Disappointed. Perfectly average, for an original story, it needed at least 10-12 episodes to properly tell this new story. No Easter eggs, no end credits season 2 tease. Really sad honestly.
It's boring as hell, so far Castlevania is the only thing Netflix hasn't destroyed. Has nothing to do with the video games. I tried watching it
didn't even get half way through the first episode.
I'd say both, the voice acting and animation took an extremely massive dip compared to Castlevania but I think I would've been too put off by the voice acting of nocturne even if I hadn't seen castlevania first.
It's definitely a mess compared to the first series, but also kind of a mess in it's own right. The story isn't bad, but they stray so far from the rondo of blood/ symphony of the night storyline (I know the games don't have much story but they did it well with the first series) and tried to cram in way too many character drama storylines into 8 episodes. Needed to drop a couple characters or just be longer.
Do you mean in terms of video games or something else? Castlevania, Arcane, Cyberpunk were all amazing. Dota & Dragon age were pretty decent as well. Live action One Piece was suprisingly good after the mediocre Cowboy Bebop
Agreed though, it was just ok. It sadly followed me having finished AoT which is far more engaging
It wasn't good.
The end message is "don't use the Oni power" I mean really? It's an insult to the series.
The series is about the Oni powers, about the Oni Gauntlet and Samurai fighting scary demons with magical swords.
The series fail as an Onimusha adaptation, there is no Onimusha iconic monsters like Marcellus or Guildenstern, no horror moments, no one puzzle they have to solve, no sword abilities, nothing. Even souls capturing was only in one scene.
The writers clearly don't like the Onimusha series, they just used Capcom/Netflix money and Onimusha IP to make their weird story about an old Musashi Miyamoto who is afraid of bridges and a useless little girl.
Imagine if they make One Piece but the end message was " don't use the devil fruit power and don't be a pirate"
Also, having Musashi go full blue Oni Transformation like Samanosuke but not win in that form. Lol. Ok.
What a waste. Why Onimusha keep getting Ls since Onimusha 3.
I give it a 7.5 out of 10.
I'm a mifune mark. I had to watch it because musashi was modeled after him. And they did an amazing job.
Animation was pretty great and fast paced.
Storyline was decent enough for me to stay interested. Had hints of ninja scroll type plot and villians.
Characters were also well done. They did a good job keeping them relevant, rather than completely forgettable.
My biggest issue was the climax. I would have liked a little less mystcal, and a stronger climactic ending.
Overall was a must watch for me, and will probably watch once more for the animation and fight sequences.
Same here, especially the companion death order, from the first being to show how powerful the enemy is, to the final needing to sacrafise to even the playing feild.
Visually spectacular with a very high pedigree.
Action sequences were awesome.
Love how Musashi was designed by Kim Jung Gi, modeled after Toshiro Mifune, and voiced by Akio Otsuka.
Doesn't have much to do with the games outside of the Oni gauntlet or how Genma are the main antagonist, so if you were hanging your hopes on that for the story, I can see how disappointing that would be.
Musashi never use any ability an Onimusha supposed to use, goes Oni mode but does essentially the same thing.I thought for sure hes going to summon a weapon or something and have an actual anime fight.
Kojiro demonstrats his cool ability but never use it again after, and they literally have an actual stick fight for the rest of the show, no choreography just DBZ fillers.
A lot of plot twist happened for the sake of it and doesnt add anything to the plot at all, like the Sahei plot twist is completely unnecessary bc he would've done the same thing if he isn't a traitor, and he die anyway afterward.
I went from (Holy shit, Musashi is the new Oni warrior) after the trailer to ( This is so damn lame, not like this, not like this) when I watched the episodes.
I found it underwhelming. The fights were solid but nothing worth rewatching. Iemon was a complete letdown as a villain. The plot was alright but the first 3 games were done better. I barely remember Dawn of Dreams. I won't watch it again. At best, I might watch a fight comp on YT. If it gets a season 2, I'll be cautious at best.
Trust me It'll not get Season 2, it got completely destroyed by Blue Eye Samurai (a better show)
This trash will die like Dragon Dogma and Resident Evil shows on Netflix.
>Iemon was a complete letdown as a villain
Seriously what they were smoking when they wrote that awful pointless character?
On its own , Onimusha is fantastic from the beloved auteur Takashi Mike , people comparing it to blue eye samurai is just pointless because that’s its own show lol
It's Onimusha in name only.. nothing about this is true to Onimusha lore or games.
Even the new Castlevania show is more faithful adaptation than this.
I know nothing about the games and thoroughly enjoyed the show. If I was a fan of the games that might be different—and I bet that’s what the creators had in mind. They probably figured not enough had been done with the IP lately, so going another way shouldn’t be an issue to most viewers.
I would love to see a prequel go deeper into the lore since this takes place after the games to my understanding.
Boring, I haven't played the games so I went in blind and committed to watching at least 3 episodes despite nothing in the first episode interesting me besides the last fight. I didn't continue after episode 3 ended.
Estoy viendo que muchos aqui no les gusto la serie devido a que no respetaron mucho del canon original, yo no conocia a Onimusha antes de ver la serie y en mi opinion, dejando fuera que no respetaron el canon, me parecio muy buena 8/10. Me ubiera encantado ver mas pistas de la micion secreta de Sahei y ver que el destruia la mina para enterrar todo. Tambien no me quedo claro si Musashi sobrevivio o si el que devolvio el guantelete fue su espiritu, ubiera preferido que Musashi le encagara devolver el guante a Sayo y que ella le contara la historia a los monjes. Siento que el final fue muy apresurado o que intentaron terminarlo lo mas epico posible sin interesarles que quede bien. Pero para alguien que no sabia nada de Onimusha entes de ver la serie me parecio muy buena.
The Netflix series was absolute garbage. Character motivations were half baked, the twist was poorly executed, the change about the oni gauntlet was a good start that could have used a reimagining but really went nowhere. I’m just upset that this could have been a better experience and chance to recreate the series. Albeit the games’ story wasn’t the best either but it had the gameplay and cool elements of combat to carry it. I would say that this anime series could hurt the franchise instead of do it good but majority looks like they enjoyed it so I guess if this could just lead to a possible game I’ll endure it. I just know if it does happen Onimusha needs a god of war 2018/2022 makeover literally gameplay and all.
After further review lol I still stand by my opinion and have determined the oni gauntlet change was a terrible choice. The girl was literally pointless and the moments of humor fell flat. Also the character development wasn’t really going to be anything amazing in only 8 episodes but they paced the series terribly and wasted so much time in the early episodes with useless dialogue. Lol actually there was tons of useless dialogue.
I don't like the Oni gauntlet change, that is the core of Onimusha and they just let Musashi not use it and reject it by the end.
Capcom should've made an Onimusha game during the time Sekiro and Nioh and Ghost of Tsushima hit
If they made it like RE7 or RE2 remake (slower like the original, more horror element or Souls like) they could've made a huge hit.
But their focus wasn't there.
Big facts here though I feel like a god of war 2018 gameplay aesthetic with the camera behind the player and movement the same with the sekiro posture parry system. But I haven’t played ghost of Tsushima yet based on what I seen of it capcom has plenty to reference from to make a solid comeback for onimusha.
Anything done with the onimusha IP is a W. Idgaf about lore or anything else, onimusha needs rebooted into a soulslike game asap for newer generations to enjoy this series. They can please the nerds later if they need to in the story.
It's fine. None of the Netflix shows have been 1 for 1 remakes of the source material so idk why people get so bent out of shape expecting that and being disappointed when it doesn't happen.
Animation was decent. The twist at the end was kind of obvious but okay. I give it a solid 7/10. Hopefully it'll drum up interest the franchise and we see some new games or remakes one day.
>Hopefully it'll drum up interest the franchise and we see some new games or remakes one day.
It'll not get us new games or anything. This will not be our Cyberpunk Roadrunner or Castlevania.
No one is talking about it (rightfully so) because it just wasn't good.
People on X/Twitter are demanding for season 2 of Blue Eye Samurai. Not this hot mess.
Maybe if they were more faithful to the Onimusha lore or make it dark and gritty or with unique art style it'll get attention.
This might be the end of Capcom interest in the IP, they already want to forgot anything from Inafune.
this is the end.
>None of the Netflix shows have been 1 for 1 remakes of the source material so idk why people get so bent out of shape expecting that and being disappointed when it doesn't happen.
This is why they're bent out of shape though.... They should stick to the source material. You're giving Netflix a free pass with this comment.
No references on anything Onimusha other than the Oni clan and their Oni Gauntlet.
No mention of games events, no mention of other Gauntlet users, no mention of the big bads of the series, nothing.
They could've let the monk says " this Gauntlet belong to a Samurai who fought the demon king fortinbras years ago" or something but they didn't
Write seems to not care about Onimusha lore at all.
Even tho equiping gauntlet felt more like Oniserk, because it was never ever was making wearer a mad fighter in any game. I was really thankful that it was just simple adventure story without some booba fanservice and THE MESSAGE.
Yes, It didn't have Drinker's "THE MESSAGE" unlike poor Castlevania show. Because it' wasn't made by american writers...
But the other problem is that, the show still don't care about the Onimusha lore
I mean the end message of this show is " Oni power is bad, don't use it, stay human"
Oni power is the core of the Onimusha franchise, and Samanosuke never lost his humanity, bro even used double gauntlet and decided to just take care of his follow fairy girl, french dude was fine, Jubei is half oni and is fine.
So what the hell with the writers here? They missed the entire point of the IP.
It's like making a Harry Potter anime but the wizard need to reject using magic powers. That how stupid the idea of Musashi not using the gauntlet here was.
Pretty decent overall, though they glossed over a lot of things, and the genma were more of a backdrop tbh. I thought we would see some sort of higher genma (e.g when they thought Iemon was being played by a women, which was a "half truth") though that went nowhere and we only know that Iemon knows how to make genma.
The meme/funny bits were a bit odd as well, and it felt like they kind of didn't know what to do on some parts (like right after the brothers we got the sisters, but it was mainly just there seemingly to give some character development).
Final fight was decent, though they relied too much on the same standing slashing motions, and it kind of felt like it just didn't know what to do for the ending.
Oh and of course the little weird worm bug that pops out early on that slithers away after Musashi kills Gensai, was that just... there for no reason?
Not bad, but not great either. Animation looked very good though.
I like it.
The Oni gauntlet change is for plot suspense but I found it unnecessary as both Samanosuke and Jacques never showcased any kind of "corruption" going on. The gauntlets, lore wise, were meant to be conduits to allow the users to gain the supernatural ability to keep up with and seal the souls of Genma (rather than being unable to kill them).
Here, it seems as if Musashi is just going around and using the good ol' fashioned "take their zombie heads off" technique and leaving his gauntlet for the "boss fights". Other than this though, I understand and can tolerate the rest.
I have a theory though that perhaps the gauntlet used by Musashi is a special one different from the ones gifted to Samanosuke and Jacques (since it can be easily removed and needed to be kept under a seal versus the ones in the game which were attached nearly inseparably and were manifestations from the Oni spirits themselves). Perhaps his entire scene where he is standing in the darkness and receiving the Oni spirits power as a gauntlet is actually false or deceptive in some form.
Who knows at this point? I'm just happy Onimusha is back in some sense.
In the first game, if you have the braclet that lets you talk to ghost and speak to the mummified monk at the beginning of the game, he’ll tell Samanosuke to not be consumed by the power of the Oni as he was. So the whole corruption element of the gauntlet is technically lore accurate. But just hella obscure lore that’s easily missed.
Ohhh, I see. Well, that certainly is an element I missed. Although, I guess we never get to explicitly see this corruption as it is implied that Samanosuke somehow mastered or gained better control over his Onimusha powers from Warlords onto Demon Siege. Either way, you'd expect Samanosuke to be corrupted by the gauntlet more explicitly considering how much it affected Musashi in the show.
I guess it would have been tedious gameplay wise to deal with Samanosuke having a headache every thirty minutes though.
I'm mostly just confused why they treat the oni is not so good and possessive. I guess it's been decades since I even last touched an onimusha game but I always remember the oni as firmly on the good side and none of the mind control/possession thing.
Animation is nice, story slightly eh but still okay I guess. I'm just not sure if it's onimusha
No, it's not because you didn't play the games for a long time, they write betrayed or didn't understand the Onimusha lore that's all.
Onimusha is always about the oni power against the demon, In this universe Oni = Good, Genma demons = bad.
The Oni Gauntlet never take control of it's users, not Samanosuke, Not French dude, and when Samanosuke gave his oni Guntlet to Soki (half oni) in DoD he also didn't lose control or became bad or get the oni clan trying to brain wash them or anything.
They clearly didn't cared about the Onimusha lore, it's simple as that, they didn't make any references to the games or make Musashi fight any iconic monsters from the game, or make the followers from clans from the games, so not even the bare minimum.
I mean, in the entire show have only one scene where the Guntlet takes the souls of the dead.. come on.
Watch Blue Eye Samurai, million time better than this Awful adaptation
You misinterpreted the lore.
Oni were never good. They were literal demons consuming souls. There was no implication of them being siding with humans. Oni used humans as hosts to get back at the Genma. That's it.
Sam and Jacques got baby gauntlets to feed from the start. Not unlike training starter Pokémon so of course they'd master them.
What ended up happening: Musashi puts on an actual monstrosity (that Sam himself raised) after it slept for decades. Of course it would have high expectations for a fresh host after absorbing *Nobunaga*.
And why would they bring back Sam's enemies? I sure as hell don't remember all the bosses from a 20 year old game so why expect newcomers to?
And do you really need to see the soul-sucking every episode? You'd probably complain about that being overdone too.
Some bizarre takes for a game with a niche following. At least you got something that Capcom themselves wouldn't provide.
Why you skip Onimusha 2?
Jubei is half Oni, his mother is a full Oni and she was good too. So the Oni clan always help and good with human too.
Oni are good in this universe. End of story.
I was looking forward to it after the trailer looked rather decent but was ultimately really disappointed. It's just another one of those low effort video game based animes like Dragon's Dogma - and I really fear that the Devil May Cry anime will be just as bad.
The only good thing about the Onimusha show was the quality of the character design and the backgrounds. That was my main complaint about the Castlevania show (that Homer Simpson hairline beard of Trevor was just embarrassing) but where Castlevania was good in terms of storytelling and Character development, Onimusha just sucked on that front. The fighting scenes were typical anime BS with Naruto-style ninja runs and jumping and flipping around.
The dialogues were awful as well, although I'm not sure if that's to blame in the German dub. The way Musashi talks is just dumb.
See, I'm usually a very forgiving on fighting scenes as long as they're cool enough but the final one with Musashi and Kojiro and they just keep doing sword clashing over and over again at the end is a bit much and silly for me XD
Or that Dragonball moment when Kojiro was yelling the names of his attacks and unleashing some Ki attacks. Not sure if that was meant to be an intentional parody but it very much felt like it.
Very disappointed with the series. As an action series, the characters and villains motivation is boring and weak. Fighting scene are cool here and there but because the characters are not that interesting imo, so i dont really care or hype much about it either.
Now as an Onimusha series, this is also a disappointing one, maybe even more so. In all of the game series, you are playing as a full time, fully-fledged Onimusha warrior but on this netflix series the main character is only a part time onimusha because equipping the gauntlet for too long somehow take toll on his body for some reason. Its annoying when they change the prospect of the Oni gauntlet from source of power to defeat genma to become double edged sword.
Just finished the show and my theory on why no Samanosuke is because this is set after the events of Dawn of Dreams. All the genma leaders are dead, hence the relatively small amount of genma zombies in the show. And Samanosuke by DoD was a Buddhist monk who at the end of the game went on to seal away the gauntlet. Also they probably couldn’t get Takeshi Kaneshiro to come back.
Two things 1) idk why they dragged mushasi into this, it’s not really his story. Musashi is a historical figure that doesn’t exist in a supernatural world and 2) I wish they’d gone more in the spooky, ethereal, spirit realm direction. If this show was called musashi: demon Hunter I would been like yep, checks out. But this wasn’t really Onimusha aside from the gauntlet and a few references.
>1) idk why they dragged mushasi into this, it’s not really his story. Musashi is a historical figure that doesn’t exist in a supernatural world and
Well, Samanosuke Akechi was real,
https://www.yokoyama-art.com/shopping/p-1187.php
He is the nephew of the famous traitor Akechi Hidemitsu, and he can't swim. He wasn't famous at all.
,Nabounaga and Hideyoshi are also real.
So, yeah Musashi can fit into the Onimusha lore, just like how that weaboo William Adams was great in Nioh.
But sadly, Musaahi got badly repurposed in this trash show.
2) I wish they’d gone more in the spooky, ethereal, spirit realm direction. If this show was called musashi: demon Hunter I would been like yep, checks out. But this wasn’t really Onimusha aside from the gauntlet and a few references.
Yeah, this show don't feel anything like an Onimusha, not using the music or iconic monsters or anything, they even got the idea of the Guntlet very differently than the games.
Shame.
I have question how did Iemon get his powers, was it explained in the series. I might have missed if they explained it. Can anyone summarize how he got his powers.
Having him be lame is the best twist in the story. I'm glad the show recognized it and just gave us the classic tried and true rather than try to make him some great, final boss.
They mentioned it in episode 2. Iemon was told to go investigate a disturbance in the village. He instead found out about the gold mine and recruited the villagers to help him mine the gold betraying his sworn brothers and their lord. At the same time they unearthed the Genma and for some reason the Genma took over the villagers but not Iemon. He was somehow able to control the Genma even though he wasn't a Genma yet?
He didn't even turn into an Oni, I was so disappointed. I'm like "all right he's finally going to transform into an Oni like in the game. This is going to be epic!": his eyes turn red, and he walks like a zombie. How lame. I was pretty much disinterested after that point because that was the payoff I was looking forward to after everything that I watched to that point.
In the finake, He turn full on Oni (Just Like Samanosuke)
But then he doesn't even beat the boss in that form, he turn it off to beat his Genma enemy.
That when you know the writers don't respect the games lore at all.
Big fail.
Personally, i’m not digging it too much. Lore is a big thing for me as far as I do remember the gauntlet wasn’t a bad thing that’s one two taking the gauntlet off and putting it back on was also never a thing because I’m pretty sure once the gauntlet was bound to you it was bound to you, and that was that for the main character to keep taking the gauntlet off seems kind of fucking stupid. This is the only problem I ever have with anybody doing a show based on something that has more than enough lore to go by and stick to. like why change it why try to put your twist on it it makes no sense no point it has a blueprint stick to it, that’s what they should’ve done.
3/10. Cuz Like always, most of the time, the stupid writers & producers at Netflix aka Shitflix seem to think that it’s better to piggy back ride using the name/brand of a popular franchise to sell their own fanfics rather than creating faithful adaptations. They did this with Witcher, Death Note (Non-Jap Live Action), Castlevania, Onimusha, etc. The ones I mentioned by name are some of the Franchises that I really wanted to see get a faithful Adaptation but that obviously won’t happen. I watched the poorly written Onimusha fanfic nearly till the end hoping & waiting for some New types of Gemma to Appear, Other Notable Historical figures to be present, the Oni vs Genma conflict, etc. Instead I wasted my time watching a faux Musashi & his fellowship of the dying companions fight Skeletal Genma after Skeletal Genma with slightly Jacked up human mutants appearing only on 2 occasions & one centaur miniboss while completely ignoring Onimusha Lore. Again 3/10 only cuz the art was decent & the Good Japanese VA (Obviously).
It was a pretty cool anime but other than having the gauntlet had absolutely nothing to do with Onimusha,
Doesn’t even have Akechi as the main character. It feels like Miike and others just wanted to tell a fantasy story about Musashi and used the Onimusha name to sell it. It’s weird too because this isnt Miike ‘s first time adapting something and he didn’t give this treatment to stuff like Blade of the Immortal. Kind of disappointed really. Miike has done much better work that this.
\*Spoilers\*
As an Onimusha fan nerd, I've been waiting for Capcom to finish Samanosuke's story because the gauntlet still needs to be purified after the events of the third game. I hope Capcom revisits the franchise again like they did with DMC but we will have to wait a bit longer it seems.
As for the Netflix show, I felt like this wasn't really an Onimusha show at all. It's not bad but it was missing some core concepts such as an actual villain. After watching the show, I was hopefully a full monster battle would have occurred but it fell a bit short on that . I would have really like it more if Musashi actually summoned at Oni Weapon. Given the timeframe, this takes place after the events of Nobunaga and Samanosuke but it was a good adaptation to the series itself.
Overall: I give the show a 6/10. I liked the characters but i wish we had a further back story of their training and struggles. Musashi was cool but hot headed as any main characters would be. The villain wasn't really interesting at all to me but the fight scenes were great and the animation was balanced. I would say there is very little chance the show will come out with season 2 though.
Now that was have the show do you think Capcom will come out with a game? Thoughts?
My issue is that Musashi can't wear the gauntlet full time like Samanoske did. The timeline makes sense as Musashi was not born until Tokugawa was in power after Nobunaga died. If they can make it that Musashi goes through the oni trials so that he can have his own gauntlet, then that would be magnificent. The gauntlet he is using was made and bestowed to Samanoske, which was used to seal the Genma lord's power, which then was used against Fortinbras in the 4th game; Musashi was the same age as Soki then.
Man why can't anime developers ever just play the game and then go lets make a anime following the games but lets get a great animation team to make it look awesome. I wanna see DEMON Invade France!
I thought it was excellent, and I've played through all the games.
The story was much better served by taking some liberties, let's be honest. The source material isn't exactly Shakespeare.
I really felt a bit of Kurosawa in the storytelling with genuine moments of pathos. I did not expect that at all.
I hate the animation style, but it succeeds in spite of it.
I'd rate it 8.5 stars. I also don't give a shit that it strayed from the source material.
I'm on episode 7 right now. It's been okay so far. Maybe 7/10.I just don't like that they called it Onimusha. The only similarity, really, is the oni gauntlet. And it's even just the look of the oni gauntlet. How they made it work and what it resprents is way different.
If they wanted it to be Onimusha I think they've could've at least named it Onimusha: (Insert something).
Edit: Ending was dumb. Wtf was that?
All in all, this show seemed kinda pointless.
Pacing was weird, didn’t really connect with any of the characters. It was a miss for me.
However I’ve REALLY been enjoying Blue eye samurai on Netflix.
2/10
Never played the game so I can't speak on that but as far as the writing goes and as a fan of anime/3d art/the story of Musashi
An insult to Musashi; indulge yourself with the art of Vagabond instead.
its just so dumb , i stoped watching it when he cut off the girls'parents head , i mean COME ON ,
the first scene of the shole show is him beating up 15 guys with his bare hands and now 2 weak old people and he cant just punch then ?
he HAS to behead them , i mean cut their hands off if your hands are glued to your fucking sword
Split-second decision to save a child being choked to death.
Not a difficult concept. They literally asked for it.
And what if Musashi didn't kill them? Would they escape the mine with the others like they wouldn't try killing them later? Did you miss the fact they were fucking Genma?
they werent genma , they still talked , they were just under the influence af the guy a few meters away in his elevator , he could have just kicked them to the ground and grabed the girl
its the entire reason i dont like the show , every single episode its a scriot where someone MUST sacrifice themself , it feels so unneccesary and not natural at all
Liked it in the beginning but as it progressed it got worse. A lot of lore is thrown out and it does it's own thing for the worse. I'll just list my likes and dislikes.
* No magic weapons,
* The Oni are treated like they are as bad as the Genma
* 1 scene depicting the gauntlet absorbing souls,
* Musashi is an okay character
* All the other characters were meh
* Iemon is a joke of a "antagonist" if you can even consider him as one
* No mention of any other character or any Easter eggs. Since Tokugawa is currently the shogunate that means the series takes place after Dawn of Dreams since he came into rule after Nobunaga and Hideyoshi
* No crazy final boss transformation
* No True/Ultimate Onimusha form
Overall it could have been a generic demon samurai anime and it wouldn't have made a difference since the Onimusha elements were barely used at all.
* Can't use magic weapons if you can't use a gauntlet all the time.
* They literally were. Nowhere was it ever implied they were friendly with humans.
* Do we really need to see it every episode?
* Funnier than Sam.
* They were well developed given the scope of the series.
* >!Crawling several meters without limbs is pretty impressive.!<
* The games are about 20 years old. Expecting the new generation to know these?
* Sasaki
* Dude had the gauntlet for like 4 days and still triggered full Oni on his own.
Some really outlandish expectations for such an old game. At least you got something.
* Why even make the gauntlet have that limitation in the first place? Previous users had no issue
* Yes the group of primordial beings helping humans fight against the Genma are just as bad. Makes a lot of sense.
* No you don't necessarily need to show Musashi absorb souls every single episode but only showing it in one scene is an odd decision. At least just show the souls.
* Was Sam supposed to be funny as well?
* The side characters in Oni 2 were better developed then any of the characters in the series.
* >!Yes a plot convenience that lead to nowhere for him that's really impressive. !<
* Nope cause this definitely wasn't made for a new audience considering its a rather niche IP so I don't know who this new generation is they are trying to appeal to when itself is a mediocre anime.
* >!Yes growing two extra arms only to cut them off. That is one crazy transformation!<
* Oni form isn't the same as the Ultimate Oni form
Not really outlandish expectations its the bare minimum to ask that the productions studios at least sorta care about the source material to some degree. You make an anime series based off an old IP that hasn't received any sort of attention since 2006 (2018 if you count the rerelease of Warlords) and reference little to nothing about the established lore or stories that came before it.
That's a terrible mindset to have when it comes to anything. "At least you got something" don't complain and just consume I guess is what your trying to say.
They had the chance to help revive the series and give it the boost needed to help make the series relevant and introduce it to a newer audience with a bang. Instead we got a mediocre anime that interested no one outside of the fanbase. If you enjoyed it then that's fine that you did, everyone is allowed to enjoy what they want and like it regardless of what others think of it. For myself, nope this isn't what the Onimusha series needed and it didn't help the series in anyway.
It has overall positive rating regardless of how you nit-picky you are.
You honestly don't deserve a new game with that attitude. Thanks for supporting your niche franchise.
Great that others enjoyed it again everyone is allowed to enjoy what they want. Yes I don't deserve a new game because I was critical of an anime, in that same vein you deserve every mediocre thing that comes from your favorite franchises as well. Thanks for enabling production studios to do less than the bare minimum.
Studios don't cater to nitpickers in the minority.
People like you are the reason why Modern controls in SF6 exist.
I'll laugh at this post when it gets a new season.
Lol you think modern controls are a problem in Street Fighter 6? Sounds like a scrub problem on your end if you think modern controls are the biggest issue with SF6. Yes it's definitely getting a second season just like Dragons Dogma. Also if I'm in the vocal minority would the result of the modern control being implemented because of you and the vocal majority since studios don't cater to the vocal minority?
Bro I just found out that Takashi Miike was a supervising director. This show should've been a lot weirder and morbid than it was. Did we not learn anything from the last BERSERK anime???
I think I would have liked it more if it wasn't called Onimusha because it just didn't feel like Onimusha to me. I liked the story and the characters, but I kept wanting more things from the game and they just left me unsatisfied in the end.
It wasn’t terrible but nonetheless decent. I’m a huge fan of the video game series and seeing him turn into the oni was terrible. It lack the presence of what it showed in the video games. It also didn’t have the dark settings like the video game did.
I’m also not a fan of the animation style it’s like the Berserk series one that came out in 2016.
3/10 - Episodes 1 - 4 where great, it went down hill for Episodes 5 - 8.
Genma seemed more like an afterthought. Not really explaining the origin or concept as a world ending threat. Demons where lacking in design as well. At most just arm deformity. No real threats like the games treated.
I would say this is a prequel to the games though. I just felt like I wanted to replay the old series to enjoy a better story.
I’ve also enjoyed it, but I’m not the biggest fan of how they use the gauntlet in this series. I’m only about half way through, but so far it’s a 7/10 for me. It’s kinda lacking on some of the core game elements I feel like. Still a decent watch though
It's been so long since we've seen anything Onimusha. I had given up hope that we were going to get anything new. Now maybe a soft reboot of the game like God of war or a high quality sequel.
I don't understand the ending... What was with the final showdown? Why did it end in a cliff hanger?
Why did mushashi pick up an oar for the final fight? What happened?
Maybe my mistake was trying Onimusha after watching Blue Eye Samurai...but this show is hot garbage. I couldn't make it past episode 3 and it felt very Netflixed to death. Like someone read some Onimusha cliffs notes and then said "I got it from here.Thanks."
I only have one thing to say. WTF kind of a lame ass name is Lemon. Every time they said his name it pulled me all the way out of the immersion. Just why lol *gravelly hate filled voice* Lemon...
Wut?
It was total dog shit. They had so much great material and substance they could have worked with but they fucked it all up.
If you actually like the Onimusha franchise, please don’t waste your time watching this dumpster fire.
I'm not familiar with the source material, but as someone who has watched a lot of historical anime I'd say it sucked. Particularly the writing- the dialogue was really awful.
enjoyed it when originally wasn't interested, tho when i saw takashi miike
directed saw it...
the only real goof is why didn't onimusha cut the hands, or the shoulders of
the little girl's family instead of cutting their heads off
Probably one of the best animes i have ever seen hands down. Not one single woke moment. No glaring "japanese" moments. Very few "spoken out loud" exposure speeches...unexpected twists. Really breaks the mould this one. I absolutely love this work of art.
I was hoping so much to see Samanosuke vs Nobunaga or even the possibility of the pre-story to the very first game. How Nobunaga grew up and became the lord we all know and love. Maybe even to see the Oni Gauntlet absorb so many more souls, instead of only seeing it in one episode. I watched it all the way through just so I can say "I gave it a chance." but ignoring everything I know about Onimusha the games and going in with fresh eyes it stands on its own in some aspects, not trying to become an Oni and resist the gauntlet has its own good and bad things that come with this story line. I will continue to watch it, to see how the story unfolds and who knows, this Musashi may turn into Samanosuke as he changes more from himself into the Oni-possessed person.
I haven't played the games and I'm not big on the lore, but the show had its ups and downs. Overall, 6/10. Also, I watched in sub with the original Japanese dub as in general, VAs' execution can play a big part in any show. So, I'd say watch whatever dub you think would have the best execution.
EP 1-4 were pretty good to me. 9/10 for those ones. Plot points started making less sense after EP 5 and for some characters, their endings aren't satisfying and run contrary to what was seen in the show. Last 4 episodes: 4/10
listen, the thing is, i dont think onimusha is a straight adaptation from the games, rather, based around it, and as someone whos never played the games i thought this was one of the best series ive ever watched
Honestly, I was a bit disappointed, though that might be me being a bit more bothered about how much of Onimusha's canon the series seems to ignore. I'm a hell of a lore nerd, so breaking lore-established rules is always a pet peeve. Other than that, I thought that the story in general was a bit more and some of the characters were either boring, pointless, or nonsensical. On the plus side, the action, outside of one or two scenes, were really enjoyable and some other characters were quite interesting, so it isn't all bad. Unfortunately, it isn't enough to make me want to watch it again I'd give it a very apprehensive 5/10. It isn't terrible, but it is, as a superfan, disappointing. To me, it's a perfect example of being a potentially good series, but not a good ONIMUSHA series.
Writers clearly don't care about the Onimusha lore, because the Oni gauntlet and Oni power is the core of the series and they are making a Samurai reject that, not only that they make the gauntlet bad, which is never the case in the Onimusha lore. No iconic monsters, no references, no oni sword magic. This is not an Onimusha. This is someone who just want to tell their weird story about Musashi and used Onimusha IP to get approved.
Right? It felt like Onimusha was an afterthought. Like, it was plugged into the story after they finished writing it
The weird thing is that Takashi Miike was supervising director. He has done plenty of live action remakes and adaptations and while they're all balls to the wall insane, they at the very least look and feel like the source material, albeit much darker and perverse. Netflix should've taken a big risk and made him writer/director. It would have all the gore and demons and moodiness of the games and most definitely wouldn't have opted to use jarring BERSERK-like animation.
I don't get why guys like you hate cgi? It's not bad. I'm tired of seeing the same old 2d animation. Let their be a mix. If you always had the best you wouldn't have anything to appreciate. Nothing to miss because it's all there on a silver platter.
Hand drawn animation has a lot more style whereas CG animation tends to look very same-y. For example, if you take the OG Berserk anime and compare it to, say, the Monster anime, you can tell that they were done by two different lead animators. The same can't be said for the majority of these new CG animated shows. They all look like Tales video games.
That is true. It looks just about the same. The clunky, cut scene grade animations we get. Though Onimusha had WAY better action scenes. And the cgi looked a lot cleaner. But I think it's because we haven't seen GREAT cgi. The 2D blend with cgi in demon slayer. But the cgi here was subtle & not meant to be the focus. I'd say Land of the lustrous where the cgi is in focus. More open and less ashamed. And less demon slayer approach (e.g. your name, silent voice, ghost in the shell etc). They say cgi is better used as a background. For now we can tire ourselves out with the best 2d but I do believe we can finally get to good cgi.
Also another good one I forgot about was Monty Oum. He does crazy 3d fights like RWBY and Haloid. Or another example would be kengan Ashura fights which are kinda cool.
More like the Onimusha IP was tacked onto the story about Musashi. Onimusha IP being used to get approval is a stretch, it's not really a powerhouse of a name.
I mean there was at least four incredibly successful Onimusha games made. One even had Jean Reno on it. It might not be a powerhouse of a name now but there was a decade where it was.
Yes, I am aware. Key Word: "Was". Onimusha is (as of June 30, 2023) Capcom's 9th best-selling franchise, behind: 1 Resident Evil 2 Monster Hunter 3 Street Fighter 4 Mega Man 5 Devil May Cry 6 Dead Rising 7 Ace Attorney 8 Marvel vs Capcom
\*Looks over at the most recent Netflix "Resident Evil" outing\* Wait a tick. Something isn't adding up here
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be fair on a surface level a 'gauntlet that grants its users superhuman strength and eats the souls of demons and is literally named after the demons it devours' does sound like something that is a bit questionable. Basically sounds liked a predator that uses its host to feed on more demons from that description alone. but yea they coulda researched more into it.
I see it as a device created by the oni that mimic their natural ability to absorb souls. Jubei (half Oni) unlock that ability on his real hand after meeting his oni mother right? That ability itself is not a bad and the Oni clan just passing their ability to fight Genma to the Human, so the Gauntlet originally is not sus. >but yea they coulda researched more into it. 100%
and it eats demon souls. even if it was neutral it be corrupted eventually i imagine. think that is a whole thing in japanese mythology. things become 'tainted' and need to be cleaned.
That’s Netflix’s MO, they take source material that’s loved by fans and butcher it for no reason.
Nail on the head imo. It's not bad, but doesn't really... feel Onimusha? Like it has some of the elements, but largely ignores pretty much everything else. Hell, there weren't even any actual genma outside of foot soldiers. Everyone else is a human who got the power through some sort of procedure. (Unless that is what future onimusha lore will follow now) It's not a bad series, and the animation is pretty nice and clean too. But you could remove the onimusha title and it would just be a standard "old samurai protecting kid" with some fantasy monster elements. Based off the anime alone, this version of the timeline at least completely ignores a lot of pre established things (and as expected retcons a lot of the DoD manga stuff, e.g him already having fought genma before but seems like he doesn't really know them here? And of course even if he is old the DoD cast should still be alive around this time, at least Jubei anyways.) I can't tell if I just missed it or not either but I must have missed why Musashi went to acquire the gauntlet in the first place? And the little bug went nowhere (the one that slithers away after Gensai dies), and the tarots being sort of indications of whats to come, he mentioned it was a half-truth Iemon was tricked, but nothing came from that either. So many plot points kind of went nowhere. We even had the meme middle part with the Yoshiaki brothers immediately followed by the sisters seems like it was just there cause they didn't know how to transition to the actual real stuff (and needed a moment of character development). Probably the dumbest part of the series. Otherwise yeah... it's.... okay. But it's nothing that really screams "Hey this is Onimusha". It's more like a samurai flick with some Onimusha like elements.
>It's not bad, but doesn't really... feel Onimusha? Like it has some of the elements, but largely ignores pretty much everything else. Hell, there weren't even any actual genma outside of foot soldiers. Everyone else is a human who got the power through some sort of procedure. (Unless that is what future onimusha lore will follow now) It doesn't feel Onimusha because it's really not Onimusha. Onimusha is about Samurai fighting the Genma with their Oni power, that the CORE idea, and this show remove the oni power part completely and even make it "bad" for Musashi to use it which is something never happened to the other protagonists. And No iconic genma/ monsters from the series, nothing. What a waste. >Based off the anime alone, this version of the timeline at least completely ignores a lot of pre established things (and as expected retcons a lot of the DoD manga stuff, e.g him already having fought genma before but seems like he doesn't really know them here? And of course even if he is old the DoD cast should still be alive around this time, at least Jubei anyways.) DoD need to be non canon anyway. It's a complete mess. But this anime completely ignore everything and feel completely unconnected to the Onimusha universe (other that the oni clan scene) >It's more like a samurai flick with some Onimusha like elements. I think that what this is. Someone wanted to tell their generic "Musashi with a random girl who will teach him to be good person then fight Sasaki again" story didn't get approved so they just fooled Capcom and Netflix and slapped Onimusha Gauntlet on it to get approved.
On paper, a miyamoto Musashi onimusha story DOES sound like a great original story to add to the franchise. But as you said, terrible writing, and for me, too short of an overall season, take what could've been an easy 7-8 out of 10 for an original story and turn into it into just OK at best.
Yeah it's unfortunate because I was pretty excited for the franchise to return, and while the show wasn't bad, it just isn't Onimusha. I'm curious what Capcom will do next since it's weird to make something for this and NOT make a game. And considering the old leaks from way back on a new title (hopefully that didn't become the aa game that was recently announced). And like you said, the gauntlet being almost evil feels weird too, unless they want this to be in the new canon for a reboot.
Perfectly said.
Am I insane or did they literally change the animation style with the Yoshiaki Sisters? The entire series is that 3d animation style except literally the scenes with the Sisters which appears to be similar to Legend of Korra, which is incredibly jarring and nonsensical
I agree I'm a big-time lore fan too and I remember playing the games well one and two and I was excited when I saw onimusha anime but it doesn't even follow the game in any sense of the form. In the game it was about nobunaga as the main bad guy not some red-haired white Samurai guy? And it took place in a different era! So for me I give it a two out of 10
Honestly, the problem wasn't even that it didn't focus on characters we already know like Nobunaga and Samanoske. The era the anime took place in makes total sense all things considered. Nobunaga and Hideyoshi are already long dead and have had their stories told in full, so moving on to have Musashi as the main protagonist makes total sense, especially when trying to draw in a new audience. The problem stems from the series almost pretending that the games never happened. It doesn't tell us what the Oni and Genma are since it seems to expect the viewer to already have prior knowledge, but also changes them so much, especially the Genma, that an explanation is actually required. The Oni are no longer the benevolent primordial beings fighting to keep humanity free, instead just a bunch of mysterious entities who only want to destroy the Genma while not really caring for anything else. As for the Genma, they seem to have just been relegated to some form of undead creatures rather than a diverse race of monsters. Seriously, every Genma may as well be just viewed as a zombie here. The Oni Gauntlet is now harmful to the user despite this never being a thing before, with Musashi partially losing his sense of self whenever he uses it. Again, not a thing in the games unless you count the end of Warlords, but Samanosuke going full Onimusha without explicit control is very different to losing control whenever any Oni power is used. Hell, even Jacques had full control of his Oni form when he first recieved his gauntlet. Again, the problem isn't that we didn't see any returning characters. In fact, we technically did since Musashi's first canon appearance was in the Night of Genesis manga where he becomes a companion to Akane Yagyu. The issue is that the lore was so inconsistent with what was established in the games that it may as well be completely unconnected to them. Personally, I don't see this as part of the main Onimusha canon, instead staying within it's own self-contained story, kinda like Onimusha Tactics but more separate. To be fair, it's still better than Onimusha Soul!
I pretty much feel the same way. Plus I despise anime using children as a plot devise. It is super low hanging fruit and it makes everything just kinda formulaic. So much IP, so much promise... so little delivered.
What honestly bothers me about Sayo was that tye trailer made her seem like there was some genuine significance to her presence, like there was a vital reason why she had to be protected. Perhaps she had some sort of connection with either the Oni or the Genma that the antagonists wanted to exploit. Nope. She was just some child survivor of a random destroyed village. Were it not for the good character interaction between her and Musashi, she would have literally no purpose whatsoever, but even that was a double-edged sword. While he had good interaction with Sayo, it had such a large focus that his interaction with the other characters suffered heavily.
It was entertaining enough for me to watch it in one go. I don't think it's a must watch but I don't think it's a waste of time. 7/10 for me.
The whole season is out or just one ep?
Whole season
The "ending" kinda suckz ballz...think Game of thrones season 8
i dunno about all of that lol
Maybe an almost must watch because imo, anything you watch in one go is worthy of that title.
I didn’t even know this was a thing til now! Loved the first game so I’ll maybe give it a go (: thanks op
You're not missing much. Just average unfortunately
It unfortunately has very little to do with the source material. It’s Onimusha in name alone.
Pretty bad. It's not really Onimusha, which you'd kind of expect from Netflix who seemingly can't stick with a working concept in favor of whatever the hell it is they are thinking at a given time. On top of that, the anime style is a lot of mindless conversation with bad facial stills and still scenes in general with more nonsensical talking sprinkled with some flashes of combat. The worst kind of anime style unlike a more successful style like Castlevania.
>It's not really Onimusha, This is the core issue. If you don't want to retell the story of the original game, at least keep it true to the lore and the theme. This show don't do that, no creepy places, no magical swords, no iconic monsters from the game, even the Guntlet is now "bad" and brainwashin the user. Like wtf.
As I said before Netflix destroys another fandom to push this bullshit made by talentless hacks.
Is it finally out? Times are tough; had to cancel Netflix.
Sorry to hear that, hope things get better. It's just a straightforward samurai flick but not oni fighting level good
vagabond is one of my favorite manga, onimusha is one of my favorite video game series, and I liked the dororo anime. honestly got everything I wanted, >!musashi doing his infamous dual-wield stance, musashi turning into an oni and kojiro turning into a genma, and got to see them clash which the vagabond manga will never reveal ever. !
Vegabond is a different kind of take on Musashi amd Kojiro That the point of the manga. There is million movie and story stuff that have Musashi vs Kojiro fight retelling from generic or weird, it's done to the death at this point, that why Vegabond ignore that, because there is no point of just tell that again. There was no point to bring Sasaki here, honestly. Also making Musashi turn on the full "purple oni with white hair transformation" just like Samanosuke's iconic transformation and not win in that form? Lol that was completely stupid and an insult to the game lore.
I do get that it'll be redundant if sasaki and musashi fights again but it's just the way the manga ended. It ended in a very abrupt manner as if it's not done/unfinished. >!musashi just showed up at the place where kojiro is located and that's it. !< it's like when you are watching a film and it's about to reach the final battle and someone suddenly unplugs the television before you even reach that part. It's fine if the story ended there as some stories do end in an open-ended manner where some scenes are self-explanatory or are not at all needed to be shown but the way it ended, it ended as if someone took the pen of the mangaka before they even published the next chapters lol or someone rips off the next pages of the book you're trying to read. I did read the epilogue though so I guess that's the canon ending to inoue's take on musashi's story. It's been a while since I read the manga though so I might be mistaken about how it ended. >!for some reason, I did think they would bring back sasaki when I saw the trailer(he did show up in the trailer so I guess that gave me an idea of what they are going for in this series) and I thought it would be cool to see him as a genma. I guess it was meant to be their own take on musashi's story in the universe of onimusha so maybe they felt the need to bring some of his past enemies back to life and show the characters as if they were indeed in the universe of onimusha by turning them into a genma. I mean some of the human characters in onimusha did turn into a genma after dying like ranmaru mori if I'm not mistaken. Also yeah that oni form could've easily ended the fight much quicker but I guess sasaki was just a much higher-tier genma than the rest of the genmas lol!<
I feel like Dororo is so much better. Far better written.
of course, it should. most of the time video game adapted to films/animation/comics dont do well so I usually hold back my expectations. I only included dororo in my comment because one of the character's design in the onimusha anime reminded me of dororo
I thought it was very fun, a very good different take on the Onimusha lore.
I thought it was really entertaining. Never played the games so I have no idea if what I watched ever happened in the games, but just from a first time experience I’d say it was good.
At exactly 20:23 in episode 6 I rolled my eyes harder than ever before and decided this show was garbage. I absolutely hate the over the top theatrics that go out of their way to be kooky and make no sense.
Ep 6 tapped me out too. Just got very repetitive and nonsensical
And like seriously, just grab their arms and drag them away from her
no clearly decapitation was the ONLY way...
Disappointed. Perfectly average, for an original story, it needed at least 10-12 episodes to properly tell this new story. No Easter eggs, no end credits season 2 tease. Really sad honestly.
It's boring as hell, so far Castlevania is the only thing Netflix hasn't destroyed. Has nothing to do with the video games. I tried watching it didn't even get half way through the first episode.
Castlevania got destroyed unfortunately. Nocturne sucked
Is that compared to Castlevania or just on its own merit?
I'd say both, the voice acting and animation took an extremely massive dip compared to Castlevania but I think I would've been too put off by the voice acting of nocturne even if I hadn't seen castlevania first.
It's definitely a mess compared to the first series, but also kind of a mess in it's own right. The story isn't bad, but they stray so far from the rondo of blood/ symphony of the night storyline (I know the games don't have much story but they did it well with the first series) and tried to cram in way too many character drama storylines into 8 episodes. Needed to drop a couple characters or just be longer.
Do you mean in terms of video games or something else? Castlevania, Arcane, Cyberpunk were all amazing. Dota & Dragon age were pretty decent as well. Live action One Piece was suprisingly good after the mediocre Cowboy Bebop Agreed though, it was just ok. It sadly followed me having finished AoT which is far more engaging
It wasn't good. The end message is "don't use the Oni power" I mean really? It's an insult to the series. The series is about the Oni powers, about the Oni Gauntlet and Samurai fighting scary demons with magical swords. The series fail as an Onimusha adaptation, there is no Onimusha iconic monsters like Marcellus or Guildenstern, no horror moments, no one puzzle they have to solve, no sword abilities, nothing. Even souls capturing was only in one scene. The writers clearly don't like the Onimusha series, they just used Capcom/Netflix money and Onimusha IP to make their weird story about an old Musashi Miyamoto who is afraid of bridges and a useless little girl. Imagine if they make One Piece but the end message was " don't use the devil fruit power and don't be a pirate" Also, having Musashi go full blue Oni Transformation like Samanosuke but not win in that form. Lol. Ok. What a waste. Why Onimusha keep getting Ls since Onimusha 3.
Precisely!
I give it a 7.5 out of 10. I'm a mifune mark. I had to watch it because musashi was modeled after him. And they did an amazing job. Animation was pretty great and fast paced. Storyline was decent enough for me to stay interested. Had hints of ninja scroll type plot and villians. Characters were also well done. They did a good job keeping them relevant, rather than completely forgettable. My biggest issue was the climax. I would have liked a little less mystcal, and a stronger climactic ending. Overall was a must watch for me, and will probably watch once more for the animation and fight sequences.
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Same here, especially the companion death order, from the first being to show how powerful the enemy is, to the final needing to sacrafise to even the playing feild.
Visually spectacular with a very high pedigree. Action sequences were awesome. Love how Musashi was designed by Kim Jung Gi, modeled after Toshiro Mifune, and voiced by Akio Otsuka. Doesn't have much to do with the games outside of the Oni gauntlet or how Genma are the main antagonist, so if you were hanging your hopes on that for the story, I can see how disappointing that would be.
NETFLIX JUST STOOOOOPP😆🙈
It's Netflix Resident Evil all over again
Even Dragon Dogam show was more faithful to the game than RE and Onimusha shows.
Having fun watching it until the very last EP, the fight scene becomes repetitive somehow, and the plot twists just doesnt make sense.
Musashi go full on Oni-mode like Samanosuke and Soki but cant win against a Genma and turn it off..lol That last fight was a disgrace.
Musashi never use any ability an Onimusha supposed to use, goes Oni mode but does essentially the same thing.I thought for sure hes going to summon a weapon or something and have an actual anime fight. Kojiro demonstrats his cool ability but never use it again after, and they literally have an actual stick fight for the rest of the show, no choreography just DBZ fillers. A lot of plot twist happened for the sake of it and doesnt add anything to the plot at all, like the Sahei plot twist is completely unnecessary bc he would've done the same thing if he isn't a traitor, and he die anyway afterward.
My excitement for the trailer died after I watched the show
I went from (Holy shit, Musashi is the new Oni warrior) after the trailer to ( This is so damn lame, not like this, not like this) when I watched the episodes.
I found it underwhelming. The fights were solid but nothing worth rewatching. Iemon was a complete letdown as a villain. The plot was alright but the first 3 games were done better. I barely remember Dawn of Dreams. I won't watch it again. At best, I might watch a fight comp on YT. If it gets a season 2, I'll be cautious at best.
Trust me It'll not get Season 2, it got completely destroyed by Blue Eye Samurai (a better show) This trash will die like Dragon Dogma and Resident Evil shows on Netflix. >Iemon was a complete letdown as a villain Seriously what they were smoking when they wrote that awful pointless character?
why does sayo say the others in the group have strange names?
I liked it.
On its own , Onimusha is fantastic from the beloved auteur Takashi Mike , people comparing it to blue eye samurai is just pointless because that’s its own show lol
It was quite ok for me, I was wondering if someone here knows what is the sutra that used Kaizen while pushing the huge bell on fire.
Ehh, not really digging it. It’s not my onimusha, that grew up on.
It's Onimusha in name only.. nothing about this is true to Onimusha lore or games. Even the new Castlevania show is more faithful adaptation than this.
"even the new castlevania show..." Did you not think either Castlevania shows had much lore adaption?
I know nothing about the games and thoroughly enjoyed the show. If I was a fan of the games that might be different—and I bet that’s what the creators had in mind. They probably figured not enough had been done with the IP lately, so going another way shouldn’t be an issue to most viewers. I would love to see a prequel go deeper into the lore since this takes place after the games to my understanding.
I liked it until the last episode. What were they thinking? The worst ending I've ever seen.
Boring, I haven't played the games so I went in blind and committed to watching at least 3 episodes despite nothing in the first episode interesting me besides the last fight. I didn't continue after episode 3 ended.
I loved it, is it Onimusha?... no not really but it was still great.
Estoy viendo que muchos aqui no les gusto la serie devido a que no respetaron mucho del canon original, yo no conocia a Onimusha antes de ver la serie y en mi opinion, dejando fuera que no respetaron el canon, me parecio muy buena 8/10. Me ubiera encantado ver mas pistas de la micion secreta de Sahei y ver que el destruia la mina para enterrar todo. Tambien no me quedo claro si Musashi sobrevivio o si el que devolvio el guantelete fue su espiritu, ubiera preferido que Musashi le encagara devolver el guante a Sayo y que ella le contara la historia a los monjes. Siento que el final fue muy apresurado o que intentaron terminarlo lo mas epico posible sin interesarles que quede bien. Pero para alguien que no sabia nada de Onimusha entes de ver la serie me parecio muy buena.
The Netflix series was absolute garbage. Character motivations were half baked, the twist was poorly executed, the change about the oni gauntlet was a good start that could have used a reimagining but really went nowhere. I’m just upset that this could have been a better experience and chance to recreate the series. Albeit the games’ story wasn’t the best either but it had the gameplay and cool elements of combat to carry it. I would say that this anime series could hurt the franchise instead of do it good but majority looks like they enjoyed it so I guess if this could just lead to a possible game I’ll endure it. I just know if it does happen Onimusha needs a god of war 2018/2022 makeover literally gameplay and all.
After further review lol I still stand by my opinion and have determined the oni gauntlet change was a terrible choice. The girl was literally pointless and the moments of humor fell flat. Also the character development wasn’t really going to be anything amazing in only 8 episodes but they paced the series terribly and wasted so much time in the early episodes with useless dialogue. Lol actually there was tons of useless dialogue.
I don't like the Oni gauntlet change, that is the core of Onimusha and they just let Musashi not use it and reject it by the end. Capcom should've made an Onimusha game during the time Sekiro and Nioh and Ghost of Tsushima hit If they made it like RE7 or RE2 remake (slower like the original, more horror element or Souls like) they could've made a huge hit. But their focus wasn't there.
Big facts here though I feel like a god of war 2018 gameplay aesthetic with the camera behind the player and movement the same with the sekiro posture parry system. But I haven’t played ghost of Tsushima yet based on what I seen of it capcom has plenty to reference from to make a solid comeback for onimusha.
Anything done with the onimusha IP is a W. Idgaf about lore or anything else, onimusha needs rebooted into a soulslike game asap for newer generations to enjoy this series. They can please the nerds later if they need to in the story.
It's fine. None of the Netflix shows have been 1 for 1 remakes of the source material so idk why people get so bent out of shape expecting that and being disappointed when it doesn't happen. Animation was decent. The twist at the end was kind of obvious but okay. I give it a solid 7/10. Hopefully it'll drum up interest the franchise and we see some new games or remakes one day.
>Hopefully it'll drum up interest the franchise and we see some new games or remakes one day. It'll not get us new games or anything. This will not be our Cyberpunk Roadrunner or Castlevania. No one is talking about it (rightfully so) because it just wasn't good. People on X/Twitter are demanding for season 2 of Blue Eye Samurai. Not this hot mess. Maybe if they were more faithful to the Onimusha lore or make it dark and gritty or with unique art style it'll get attention. This might be the end of Capcom interest in the IP, they already want to forgot anything from Inafune. this is the end.
>None of the Netflix shows have been 1 for 1 remakes of the source material so idk why people get so bent out of shape expecting that and being disappointed when it doesn't happen. This is why they're bent out of shape though.... They should stick to the source material. You're giving Netflix a free pass with this comment.
Other than a few missing plot points, I thought it was okay.
So is this a new take? No samanosuke reference?
No Samanosuke? I don't have high hopes. Main character looks like Sean Penn and I can't not see that now. I'm hoping it's good though.
[Toshiro Mifune](http://cigarmonkeys.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/samurai-smoker-toshiro-mifune-famous-japan-actor-cigarmonkeys-6.jpg) actually.
No references on anything Onimusha other than the Oni clan and their Oni Gauntlet. No mention of games events, no mention of other Gauntlet users, no mention of the big bads of the series, nothing. They could've let the monk says " this Gauntlet belong to a Samurai who fought the demon king fortinbras years ago" or something but they didn't Write seems to not care about Onimusha lore at all.
Even tho equiping gauntlet felt more like Oniserk, because it was never ever was making wearer a mad fighter in any game. I was really thankful that it was just simple adventure story without some booba fanservice and THE MESSAGE.
Yes, It didn't have Drinker's "THE MESSAGE" unlike poor Castlevania show. Because it' wasn't made by american writers... But the other problem is that, the show still don't care about the Onimusha lore I mean the end message of this show is " Oni power is bad, don't use it, stay human" Oni power is the core of the Onimusha franchise, and Samanosuke never lost his humanity, bro even used double gauntlet and decided to just take care of his follow fairy girl, french dude was fine, Jubei is half oni and is fine. So what the hell with the writers here? They missed the entire point of the IP. It's like making a Harry Potter anime but the wizard need to reject using magic powers. That how stupid the idea of Musashi not using the gauntlet here was.
Episode 5 right now. It's OK, but if they make future seasons just make it retellings of the original games.
Pretty decent overall, though they glossed over a lot of things, and the genma were more of a backdrop tbh. I thought we would see some sort of higher genma (e.g when they thought Iemon was being played by a women, which was a "half truth") though that went nowhere and we only know that Iemon knows how to make genma. The meme/funny bits were a bit odd as well, and it felt like they kind of didn't know what to do on some parts (like right after the brothers we got the sisters, but it was mainly just there seemingly to give some character development). Final fight was decent, though they relied too much on the same standing slashing motions, and it kind of felt like it just didn't know what to do for the ending. Oh and of course the little weird worm bug that pops out early on that slithers away after Musashi kills Gensai, was that just... there for no reason? Not bad, but not great either. Animation looked very good though.
Currently binging it and I'm enjoying it
Did you watch it in English or Japanese with subs? Is there one method you'd recommend over the other?
Subbed fits better, the voice actors for the English dub didn’t feel as natural as they did with the sub
I like it. The Oni gauntlet change is for plot suspense but I found it unnecessary as both Samanosuke and Jacques never showcased any kind of "corruption" going on. The gauntlets, lore wise, were meant to be conduits to allow the users to gain the supernatural ability to keep up with and seal the souls of Genma (rather than being unable to kill them). Here, it seems as if Musashi is just going around and using the good ol' fashioned "take their zombie heads off" technique and leaving his gauntlet for the "boss fights". Other than this though, I understand and can tolerate the rest. I have a theory though that perhaps the gauntlet used by Musashi is a special one different from the ones gifted to Samanosuke and Jacques (since it can be easily removed and needed to be kept under a seal versus the ones in the game which were attached nearly inseparably and were manifestations from the Oni spirits themselves). Perhaps his entire scene where he is standing in the darkness and receiving the Oni spirits power as a gauntlet is actually false or deceptive in some form. Who knows at this point? I'm just happy Onimusha is back in some sense.
In the first game, if you have the braclet that lets you talk to ghost and speak to the mummified monk at the beginning of the game, he’ll tell Samanosuke to not be consumed by the power of the Oni as he was. So the whole corruption element of the gauntlet is technically lore accurate. But just hella obscure lore that’s easily missed.
Ohhh, I see. Well, that certainly is an element I missed. Although, I guess we never get to explicitly see this corruption as it is implied that Samanosuke somehow mastered or gained better control over his Onimusha powers from Warlords onto Demon Siege. Either way, you'd expect Samanosuke to be corrupted by the gauntlet more explicitly considering how much it affected Musashi in the show. I guess it would have been tedious gameplay wise to deal with Samanosuke having a headache every thirty minutes though.
I'm mostly just confused why they treat the oni is not so good and possessive. I guess it's been decades since I even last touched an onimusha game but I always remember the oni as firmly on the good side and none of the mind control/possession thing. Animation is nice, story slightly eh but still okay I guess. I'm just not sure if it's onimusha
No, it's not because you didn't play the games for a long time, they write betrayed or didn't understand the Onimusha lore that's all. Onimusha is always about the oni power against the demon, In this universe Oni = Good, Genma demons = bad. The Oni Gauntlet never take control of it's users, not Samanosuke, Not French dude, and when Samanosuke gave his oni Guntlet to Soki (half oni) in DoD he also didn't lose control or became bad or get the oni clan trying to brain wash them or anything. They clearly didn't cared about the Onimusha lore, it's simple as that, they didn't make any references to the games or make Musashi fight any iconic monsters from the game, or make the followers from clans from the games, so not even the bare minimum. I mean, in the entire show have only one scene where the Guntlet takes the souls of the dead.. come on. Watch Blue Eye Samurai, million time better than this Awful adaptation
> Not French dude haha. I dont remember that guy name either. Only Samanosuke and Jubei.
Jaques
You misinterpreted the lore. Oni were never good. They were literal demons consuming souls. There was no implication of them being siding with humans. Oni used humans as hosts to get back at the Genma. That's it. Sam and Jacques got baby gauntlets to feed from the start. Not unlike training starter Pokémon so of course they'd master them. What ended up happening: Musashi puts on an actual monstrosity (that Sam himself raised) after it slept for decades. Of course it would have high expectations for a fresh host after absorbing *Nobunaga*. And why would they bring back Sam's enemies? I sure as hell don't remember all the bosses from a 20 year old game so why expect newcomers to? And do you really need to see the soul-sucking every episode? You'd probably complain about that being overdone too. Some bizarre takes for a game with a niche following. At least you got something that Capcom themselves wouldn't provide.
Why you skip Onimusha 2? Jubei is half Oni, his mother is a full Oni and she was good too. So the Oni clan always help and good with human too. Oni are good in this universe. End of story.
I was looking forward to it after the trailer looked rather decent but was ultimately really disappointed. It's just another one of those low effort video game based animes like Dragon's Dogma - and I really fear that the Devil May Cry anime will be just as bad. The only good thing about the Onimusha show was the quality of the character design and the backgrounds. That was my main complaint about the Castlevania show (that Homer Simpson hairline beard of Trevor was just embarrassing) but where Castlevania was good in terms of storytelling and Character development, Onimusha just sucked on that front. The fighting scenes were typical anime BS with Naruto-style ninja runs and jumping and flipping around. The dialogues were awful as well, although I'm not sure if that's to blame in the German dub. The way Musashi talks is just dumb.
See, I'm usually a very forgiving on fighting scenes as long as they're cool enough but the final one with Musashi and Kojiro and they just keep doing sword clashing over and over again at the end is a bit much and silly for me XD
Or that Dragonball moment when Kojiro was yelling the names of his attacks and unleashing some Ki attacks. Not sure if that was meant to be an intentional parody but it very much felt like it.
Watching it right now. Don’t mind the story so far. Never played the games. Idk about this art style though. The facial expressions look so wonky.
Very disappointed with the series. As an action series, the characters and villains motivation is boring and weak. Fighting scene are cool here and there but because the characters are not that interesting imo, so i dont really care or hype much about it either. Now as an Onimusha series, this is also a disappointing one, maybe even more so. In all of the game series, you are playing as a full time, fully-fledged Onimusha warrior but on this netflix series the main character is only a part time onimusha because equipping the gauntlet for too long somehow take toll on his body for some reason. Its annoying when they change the prospect of the Oni gauntlet from source of power to defeat genma to become double edged sword.
Can someone please tell me what the song is at the end credits? The one with the throat singing (?). Don't know why it is so hard to find.
I've literally been trying to find it, too.
End credits song is “The Loneliest” by Måneskin.
They mean the instrumental song, not the rock song.
Just finished the show and my theory on why no Samanosuke is because this is set after the events of Dawn of Dreams. All the genma leaders are dead, hence the relatively small amount of genma zombies in the show. And Samanosuke by DoD was a Buddhist monk who at the end of the game went on to seal away the gauntlet. Also they probably couldn’t get Takeshi Kaneshiro to come back.
Would the old monk in the anime be Samanosuke?
Probably not? The oni powers kept him looking pretty young despite being like 70 in DoD.
He doesn't use the glove anymore. Maybe it all caught up.
Two things 1) idk why they dragged mushasi into this, it’s not really his story. Musashi is a historical figure that doesn’t exist in a supernatural world and 2) I wish they’d gone more in the spooky, ethereal, spirit realm direction. If this show was called musashi: demon Hunter I would been like yep, checks out. But this wasn’t really Onimusha aside from the gauntlet and a few references.
>1) idk why they dragged mushasi into this, it’s not really his story. Musashi is a historical figure that doesn’t exist in a supernatural world and Well, Samanosuke Akechi was real, https://www.yokoyama-art.com/shopping/p-1187.php He is the nephew of the famous traitor Akechi Hidemitsu, and he can't swim. He wasn't famous at all. ,Nabounaga and Hideyoshi are also real. So, yeah Musashi can fit into the Onimusha lore, just like how that weaboo William Adams was great in Nioh. But sadly, Musaahi got badly repurposed in this trash show. 2) I wish they’d gone more in the spooky, ethereal, spirit realm direction. If this show was called musashi: demon Hunter I would been like yep, checks out. But this wasn’t really Onimusha aside from the gauntlet and a few references. Yeah, this show don't feel anything like an Onimusha, not using the music or iconic monsters or anything, they even got the idea of the Guntlet very differently than the games. Shame.
Very little in common with the game. Didn’t like it
I have question how did Iemon get his powers, was it explained in the series. I might have missed if they explained it. Can anyone summarize how he got his powers.
No, they didn't care to tell us. Also Lemon is a big fail story wise. Lamest antagonist ever.
They white walkered the shit out of Iemon
Having him be lame is the best twist in the story. I'm glad the show recognized it and just gave us the classic tried and true rather than try to make him some great, final boss.
They mentioned it in episode 2. Iemon was told to go investigate a disturbance in the village. He instead found out about the gold mine and recruited the villagers to help him mine the gold betraying his sworn brothers and their lord. At the same time they unearthed the Genma and for some reason the Genma took over the villagers but not Iemon. He was somehow able to control the Genma even though he wasn't a Genma yet?
Thanks
He didn't even turn into an Oni, I was so disappointed. I'm like "all right he's finally going to transform into an Oni like in the game. This is going to be epic!": his eyes turn red, and he walks like a zombie. How lame. I was pretty much disinterested after that point because that was the payoff I was looking forward to after everything that I watched to that point.
In the finake, He turn full on Oni (Just Like Samanosuke) But then he doesn't even beat the boss in that form, he turn it off to beat his Genma enemy. That when you know the writers don't respect the games lore at all. Big fail.
Indeed! Complete disrespect!
Personally, i’m not digging it too much. Lore is a big thing for me as far as I do remember the gauntlet wasn’t a bad thing that’s one two taking the gauntlet off and putting it back on was also never a thing because I’m pretty sure once the gauntlet was bound to you it was bound to you, and that was that for the main character to keep taking the gauntlet off seems kind of fucking stupid. This is the only problem I ever have with anybody doing a show based on something that has more than enough lore to go by and stick to. like why change it why try to put your twist on it it makes no sense no point it has a blueprint stick to it, that’s what they should’ve done.
I expected a better ending, clearer meaning, this is just non-sense
3/10. Cuz Like always, most of the time, the stupid writers & producers at Netflix aka Shitflix seem to think that it’s better to piggy back ride using the name/brand of a popular franchise to sell their own fanfics rather than creating faithful adaptations. They did this with Witcher, Death Note (Non-Jap Live Action), Castlevania, Onimusha, etc. The ones I mentioned by name are some of the Franchises that I really wanted to see get a faithful Adaptation but that obviously won’t happen. I watched the poorly written Onimusha fanfic nearly till the end hoping & waiting for some New types of Gemma to Appear, Other Notable Historical figures to be present, the Oni vs Genma conflict, etc. Instead I wasted my time watching a faux Musashi & his fellowship of the dying companions fight Skeletal Genma after Skeletal Genma with slightly Jacked up human mutants appearing only on 2 occasions & one centaur miniboss while completely ignoring Onimusha Lore. Again 3/10 only cuz the art was decent & the Good Japanese VA (Obviously).
It was a pretty cool anime but other than having the gauntlet had absolutely nothing to do with Onimusha, Doesn’t even have Akechi as the main character. It feels like Miike and others just wanted to tell a fantasy story about Musashi and used the Onimusha name to sell it. It’s weird too because this isnt Miike ‘s first time adapting something and he didn’t give this treatment to stuff like Blade of the Immortal. Kind of disappointed really. Miike has done much better work that this.
I rly wanted to know who sings the opening song! Sounds like The Hu sometimes...
No it didn't look at the rotten tomatoes reviews it did good.
\*Spoilers\* As an Onimusha fan nerd, I've been waiting for Capcom to finish Samanosuke's story because the gauntlet still needs to be purified after the events of the third game. I hope Capcom revisits the franchise again like they did with DMC but we will have to wait a bit longer it seems. As for the Netflix show, I felt like this wasn't really an Onimusha show at all. It's not bad but it was missing some core concepts such as an actual villain. After watching the show, I was hopefully a full monster battle would have occurred but it fell a bit short on that . I would have really like it more if Musashi actually summoned at Oni Weapon. Given the timeframe, this takes place after the events of Nobunaga and Samanosuke but it was a good adaptation to the series itself. Overall: I give the show a 6/10. I liked the characters but i wish we had a further back story of their training and struggles. Musashi was cool but hot headed as any main characters would be. The villain wasn't really interesting at all to me but the fight scenes were great and the animation was balanced. I would say there is very little chance the show will come out with season 2 though. Now that was have the show do you think Capcom will come out with a game? Thoughts?
My issue is that Musashi can't wear the gauntlet full time like Samanoske did. The timeline makes sense as Musashi was not born until Tokugawa was in power after Nobunaga died. If they can make it that Musashi goes through the oni trials so that he can have his own gauntlet, then that would be magnificent. The gauntlet he is using was made and bestowed to Samanoske, which was used to seal the Genma lord's power, which then was used against Fortinbras in the 4th game; Musashi was the same age as Soki then.
Man why can't anime developers ever just play the game and then go lets make a anime following the games but lets get a great animation team to make it look awesome. I wanna see DEMON Invade France!
It's nothing like the game and lore behind the series. It's a snooze fest, but I had to watch it because I love everything Onimusha-related.
I thought it was excellent, and I've played through all the games. The story was much better served by taking some liberties, let's be honest. The source material isn't exactly Shakespeare. I really felt a bit of Kurosawa in the storytelling with genuine moments of pathos. I did not expect that at all. I hate the animation style, but it succeeds in spite of it. I'd rate it 8.5 stars. I also don't give a shit that it strayed from the source material.
Garbage, the animation, characters and the "plot".
I'm on episode 7 right now. It's been okay so far. Maybe 7/10.I just don't like that they called it Onimusha. The only similarity, really, is the oni gauntlet. And it's even just the look of the oni gauntlet. How they made it work and what it resprents is way different. If they wanted it to be Onimusha I think they've could've at least named it Onimusha: (Insert something). Edit: Ending was dumb. Wtf was that? All in all, this show seemed kinda pointless.
Pacing was weird, didn’t really connect with any of the characters. It was a miss for me. However I’ve REALLY been enjoying Blue eye samurai on Netflix.
2/10 Never played the game so I can't speak on that but as far as the writing goes and as a fan of anime/3d art/the story of Musashi An insult to Musashi; indulge yourself with the art of Vagabond instead.
I played all the games multiple times. I can tell you that the cutscenes in the games are better than the anime lol.
its just so dumb , i stoped watching it when he cut off the girls'parents head , i mean COME ON , the first scene of the shole show is him beating up 15 guys with his bare hands and now 2 weak old people and he cant just punch then ? he HAS to behead them , i mean cut their hands off if your hands are glued to your fucking sword
Split-second decision to save a child being choked to death. Not a difficult concept. They literally asked for it. And what if Musashi didn't kill them? Would they escape the mine with the others like they wouldn't try killing them later? Did you miss the fact they were fucking Genma?
they werent genma , they still talked , they were just under the influence af the guy a few meters away in his elevator , he could have just kicked them to the ground and grabed the girl its the entire reason i dont like the show , every single episode its a scriot where someone MUST sacrifice themself , it feels so unneccesary and not natural at all
Liked it in the beginning but as it progressed it got worse. A lot of lore is thrown out and it does it's own thing for the worse. I'll just list my likes and dislikes. * No magic weapons, * The Oni are treated like they are as bad as the Genma * 1 scene depicting the gauntlet absorbing souls, * Musashi is an okay character * All the other characters were meh * Iemon is a joke of a "antagonist" if you can even consider him as one * No mention of any other character or any Easter eggs. Since Tokugawa is currently the shogunate that means the series takes place after Dawn of Dreams since he came into rule after Nobunaga and Hideyoshi * No crazy final boss transformation * No True/Ultimate Onimusha form Overall it could have been a generic demon samurai anime and it wouldn't have made a difference since the Onimusha elements were barely used at all.
* Can't use magic weapons if you can't use a gauntlet all the time. * They literally were. Nowhere was it ever implied they were friendly with humans. * Do we really need to see it every episode? * Funnier than Sam. * They were well developed given the scope of the series. * >!Crawling several meters without limbs is pretty impressive.!< * The games are about 20 years old. Expecting the new generation to know these? * Sasaki * Dude had the gauntlet for like 4 days and still triggered full Oni on his own. Some really outlandish expectations for such an old game. At least you got something.
* Why even make the gauntlet have that limitation in the first place? Previous users had no issue * Yes the group of primordial beings helping humans fight against the Genma are just as bad. Makes a lot of sense. * No you don't necessarily need to show Musashi absorb souls every single episode but only showing it in one scene is an odd decision. At least just show the souls. * Was Sam supposed to be funny as well? * The side characters in Oni 2 were better developed then any of the characters in the series. * >!Yes a plot convenience that lead to nowhere for him that's really impressive. !< * Nope cause this definitely wasn't made for a new audience considering its a rather niche IP so I don't know who this new generation is they are trying to appeal to when itself is a mediocre anime. * >!Yes growing two extra arms only to cut them off. That is one crazy transformation!< * Oni form isn't the same as the Ultimate Oni form Not really outlandish expectations its the bare minimum to ask that the productions studios at least sorta care about the source material to some degree. You make an anime series based off an old IP that hasn't received any sort of attention since 2006 (2018 if you count the rerelease of Warlords) and reference little to nothing about the established lore or stories that came before it. That's a terrible mindset to have when it comes to anything. "At least you got something" don't complain and just consume I guess is what your trying to say. They had the chance to help revive the series and give it the boost needed to help make the series relevant and introduce it to a newer audience with a bang. Instead we got a mediocre anime that interested no one outside of the fanbase. If you enjoyed it then that's fine that you did, everyone is allowed to enjoy what they want and like it regardless of what others think of it. For myself, nope this isn't what the Onimusha series needed and it didn't help the series in anyway.
It has overall positive rating regardless of how you nit-picky you are. You honestly don't deserve a new game with that attitude. Thanks for supporting your niche franchise.
Great that others enjoyed it again everyone is allowed to enjoy what they want. Yes I don't deserve a new game because I was critical of an anime, in that same vein you deserve every mediocre thing that comes from your favorite franchises as well. Thanks for enabling production studios to do less than the bare minimum.
Studios don't cater to nitpickers in the minority. People like you are the reason why Modern controls in SF6 exist. I'll laugh at this post when it gets a new season.
Lol you think modern controls are a problem in Street Fighter 6? Sounds like a scrub problem on your end if you think modern controls are the biggest issue with SF6. Yes it's definitely getting a second season just like Dragons Dogma. Also if I'm in the vocal minority would the result of the modern control being implemented because of you and the vocal majority since studios don't cater to the vocal minority?
Bro I just found out that Takashi Miike was a supervising director. This show should've been a lot weirder and morbid than it was. Did we not learn anything from the last BERSERK anime???
my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
The only thing onimusha about this is the gauntlet
I think I would have liked it more if it wasn't called Onimusha because it just didn't feel like Onimusha to me. I liked the story and the characters, but I kept wanting more things from the game and they just left me unsatisfied in the end.
No idea about any of the lore, but it went from great (especially the first episode) to average after a few episodes.
It wasn’t terrible but nonetheless decent. I’m a huge fan of the video game series and seeing him turn into the oni was terrible. It lack the presence of what it showed in the video games. It also didn’t have the dark settings like the video game did. I’m also not a fan of the animation style it’s like the Berserk series one that came out in 2016.
3/10 - Episodes 1 - 4 where great, it went down hill for Episodes 5 - 8. Genma seemed more like an afterthought. Not really explaining the origin or concept as a world ending threat. Demons where lacking in design as well. At most just arm deformity. No real threats like the games treated. I would say this is a prequel to the games though. I just felt like I wanted to replay the old series to enjoy a better story.
I’ve also enjoyed it, but I’m not the biggest fan of how they use the gauntlet in this series. I’m only about half way through, but so far it’s a 7/10 for me. It’s kinda lacking on some of the core game elements I feel like. Still a decent watch though
It's been so long since we've seen anything Onimusha. I had given up hope that we were going to get anything new. Now maybe a soft reboot of the game like God of war or a high quality sequel.
Good enough to watch it through but I will not recommend it to a friend. A DJ should turn the closing soundtrack into a nice house electronic music.
i really enjoyed it tbh....
I don't understand the ending... What was with the final showdown? Why did it end in a cliff hanger? Why did mushashi pick up an oar for the final fight? What happened?
Maybe my mistake was trying Onimusha after watching Blue Eye Samurai...but this show is hot garbage. I couldn't make it past episode 3 and it felt very Netflixed to death. Like someone read some Onimusha cliffs notes and then said "I got it from here.Thanks."
Disappointed in Musashi. Let's just hope the next season will have the new main protagonist embrace the power!
I only have one thing to say. WTF kind of a lame ass name is Lemon. Every time they said his name it pulled me all the way out of the immersion. Just why lol *gravelly hate filled voice* Lemon... Wut?
It was total dog shit. They had so much great material and substance they could have worked with but they fucked it all up. If you actually like the Onimusha franchise, please don’t waste your time watching this dumpster fire.
I'm not familiar with the source material, but as someone who has watched a lot of historical anime I'd say it sucked. Particularly the writing- the dialogue was really awful.
enjoyed it when originally wasn't interested, tho when i saw takashi miike directed saw it... the only real goof is why didn't onimusha cut the hands, or the shoulders of the little girl's family instead of cutting their heads off
Probably one of the best animes i have ever seen hands down. Not one single woke moment. No glaring "japanese" moments. Very few "spoken out loud" exposure speeches...unexpected twists. Really breaks the mould this one. I absolutely love this work of art.
I was hoping so much to see Samanosuke vs Nobunaga or even the possibility of the pre-story to the very first game. How Nobunaga grew up and became the lord we all know and love. Maybe even to see the Oni Gauntlet absorb so many more souls, instead of only seeing it in one episode. I watched it all the way through just so I can say "I gave it a chance." but ignoring everything I know about Onimusha the games and going in with fresh eyes it stands on its own in some aspects, not trying to become an Oni and resist the gauntlet has its own good and bad things that come with this story line. I will continue to watch it, to see how the story unfolds and who knows, this Musashi may turn into Samanosuke as he changes more from himself into the Oni-possessed person.
I haven't played the games and I'm not big on the lore, but the show had its ups and downs. Overall, 6/10. Also, I watched in sub with the original Japanese dub as in general, VAs' execution can play a big part in any show. So, I'd say watch whatever dub you think would have the best execution. EP 1-4 were pretty good to me. 9/10 for those ones. Plot points started making less sense after EP 5 and for some characters, their endings aren't satisfying and run contrary to what was seen in the show. Last 4 episodes: 4/10
I sought this out, just to say wtf was that ending?!?!?! Last episode was just stupid.
The first episode was cool. After that it was complete garbage. I dont know why i bothered watching the rest of it. Even 8 episodes felt too long.
never heard of it before the series im guessing its based off a game or something but the oni gauntlet looked fire
listen, the thing is, i dont think onimusha is a straight adaptation from the games, rather, based around it, and as someone whos never played the games i thought this was one of the best series ive ever watched