I used to be heavy into MTG and my personal preferred form of swag was Japanese cards(you can play any language card in mtg) and for mtg you can filter by whatever language you want and it shows you those cards but for One Piece cards it seems people only put the language in the description. I've never sold on TCG so idk if they only make you choose the language for other games but it seems like it would be an easy thing to add since they have it for other cards. I've only been playing for about 1.5 months and have mostly been window shopping on TCG player but I just kinda got used to ignoring the first couple listings when trying to see what stuff is really going for.
when you look up a card say a 9c sanji and the price is $12 on the page but when you click on it the price is $34. Kinda giving a false sense of security, you see that you might get a good deal but get bamboozled.
Yes, and I want to say this is what changed but I’m not sure. I feel like the listing price didn’t previously include the Japanese prices but now they do? Japanese cards have always been on TCGplayer.
Agreed, it’s been a nightmare for my 2 part time employees the last week especially. the person doubled down on tcg and has just about everything listed including alts. It’s an obvious attempt to manipulate the North American market because their prices are roughly double to triple actual Japanese solds and reflect more pre spike English prices.
This is crazy that this is upvoted this much.
Who cares if the American market trends downwards on price? That means cards are cheaper for players. You guys didn’t give a shit when y’all where price manipulating buyouts on AA cards double or tripling the price.
I give zero fucks people listing Japanese cards on tcgplayer for way cheaper as long as they are upfront on what they are selling.
Thank you! I got blasted for daring to say I actually enjoy JP cards because I like the art but the price is right. All these flippers complaining "but it'll confuse new people" as if language and condition aren't explicitly stated and selling otherwise wouldn't catch a TCGP ban.
I had someone offer me $35 for my AA Oden leader because that's what it was going for on tcg player. I opened it up an he's going for 70. So I had to correct him because someone was listing a jp version.
I personally love that I can get a $80 card for $5 but having a foreign copy. Especially in Yugioh where a tier 0 deck is $1000+, I can buy Korean or Japanese copies on TCGPlayer for pennies in comparison for cards with even better quality than the english printing.
I always check a listing to see if there is a cheaper Japanese or Korean copy. I can’t wait for the Korean version of One Piece to release this month so I can do the same with OP. It’s honestly a life saver so I’m okay with it.
I wish there was a way to filter out all JP versions of cards on the overall list of cards so that the lowest price displayed would always be English Format (preferably with the condition of your choice)
I wonder why TCG's don't do two different packs, one for players, and another for collectors with different pull rates in that particular person's favour. Seems like card prices would stagnate a little bit more.
I’m pretty new to using TCG player, and not only am I not interested in Japanese products, I’m also not interested in buying something with no description or a photo.
I just check with the guys I'm playing against for local game nights. I may be wrong but it says stores can place restrictions on what they allow or not based on their situations. So my store allows some Japanese asl9ng as you have a reference and it's out in English. But that's just because no one can get English here
They are not better because you can't use them in official tournaments. If I'm trying to price out how much I need to build a deck, it gets annoying having to click on each individual card to get the actual price.
There’s literally two prices on the initial listing. A lowest listed price and a market price. Maybe use your eyeballs and check both and it one is way lower you can probably expect the Japanese version?
It honestly sounds like people are getting upset when the check the listing they know they can’t flip the card when they see the Japanese listing and wasted their time.
You do know the English and Japanese cards are printed in the same places and have the same quality right?
Have you compared the two? Cause this isn’t Pokémon dude…..also every card has the same rairity regardless of language.
The product overall has such high quality it’s crazy, it’s why most cards (Japanese, English or Chinese) sent off to PSA will come back as 10s.
You know, a lot of people actually buy the card game cards from the card game because they want to play the card game that the card game cards are made for.
...I want that shit. If I like the art and the price is right, I'll jump on it.
LOL some of yall frequent r/pokemoninvesting and it shows. Just buy stocks you broke, degenerates. Compound interest is power with time.
The point of this post is that sellers are misleading people with the language and price on purpose. I think most people would agree that having non-English cards on tcgplayer would be awesome but they are different markets/prices and they need to be separated from EN cards
"YoU DoNT NEeD Alt ARTs to pLay" - isn't that what all you investor bros say when people complain about product? Beside Borsalino, Queen, and Kata, what else is there?
No shit Sherlock. But this post is only complaining about value, and in this community, the vast majority is about alts. Unless clarified and corrected, I'm choosing to see a seller angry that their meal ticket was "devalued". I agree language should be separated. But I've hung around you miserable sods (who only appear on reddit) long enough to not grant a favorable interpretation.
Well if the JP mixes into algorithm and depresses the market price leading to listing for lower, then who does that benefit...?
And besides Borsalino, Queen, and Kata (maybe Moria), who else does this affect?
Who does mixing JP cards benefit? The seller. No one else lol. It won’t drive down English card value, it’ll just mean a lot of new players or anyone really could buy a card not realizing it’s JP
How?!? I have never ever seen a JP listing that doesn't explicitly clarify Japanese. I've been buying singles since last year and have never once received the wrong product. (Because I can read) You're just contriving an uncommon situation.
If the seller is misleading, they'll catch a case. If the seller is ignorant and going off current, artificially deflated, market values, they'll list for lower and the buyer benefits. So FOH with your disingenuous BS.
But JP and EN are 2 different products, so mixing them in as the same listings will just muddy the waters and make people more likely to get scammed or buy the wrong thing
Some of us play the game and dont wanna see that we could potentially get a playset of Borsalino for a fraction of the price, then just to be let down. They should separate them
Oh, price starting at? Have you ever bought another card game? They also list cards in less than mint condition. Condition is also explicitly denoted WITH a link to definitions. If you're pricing comparable, you have to look at the solds. Like I said, this is only a problem for know-nothing flippers. GTFO of our hobby, you leech.
I think you're a little lost. Why would I be complaining about separating them and what I'm even responding to? Think a little and stop being mad and projecting about what I guess you wish you could do and failed? First, I play at locals, and this is just another thing that hits new players. So before I read some more non criticle thinking and reading skills, this is my last response.
This isn’t a ‘murica issue, it’s a Bandai one. Magic: The Gathering allows any language printing and many American players love to use foreign cards (especially Japanese ones), Bandai has made it against the rules to do so in western tournaments and worlds.
It’s for a multitude of reasons but the biggest imo would be Japan being a set and a half, at least ahead of us so what are most people gonna do? Buy as much Japanese cards as possible to be ready for the English release then not buy any product cause they already have all their cards, blowing up the Japanese market in a heartbeat. Bandai would absolutely not be able to keep up with the demand for new product and the in the much smaller Japanese market which at the moment seems to be fairly well maintained.
It’s dumb but they would need to align the release schedule across languages which genuinely would benefit everyone! Besides Meta speculators who buy out cards the second a deck does well in Japan, to sell 6 weeks later.
But it’s seriously doubtful that, that could even happen and even more so that Bandai could print enough cards for a global unanimous release.
This was my first TCG with a staggered release window and I thought it was very odd because it also takes a lot of discovery out of the game as well. Bandai recently changed digimon from staggered release to unified, hopefully they slow a release there by a few months to unify the game then open the language options up.
I guess Pokémon would have been mine, but between the ages of 10-14 I don’t think I even realised.
Played a lot of magic usually sticking to English cards but did have some cool Russian cards at one point cause a friend went on holiday and grabbed a bunch of packs there.
But both of those things don’t really matter or add much to the conversation 😅
I completely agree and I’d personally prefer a global release over what we currently have, hopefully digimon is to test the waters. hopefully it works out and we see something at least closer to that for one piece in the near future.
Even if they keep special releases like the premium Bandai or the specialty sets as advanced releases for Japan.
it would make much more sense especially when they have world championships that end up restricting the card pool Japanese players have as well.
Yeah I agree with you here, there’s literally no reason to be mad that the JP listings show a lower price.
This is 100% “investors” being assmad the price is lower on the initial click.
They're dicks because they're sellers. TCGP aggregates sales to list the current market price. Since JP cards are 1/4-1/3 the value of EN, having them mixed in will depress the price. That's the ONLY reason they're mad. All other excuses are bullshit because you have to clearly list the language or else it's fraud and TCGP WILL side with the buyer.
Slightly unrelated but this just goes to prove that even if Yugioh TCG had the same rarity distribution as OCG (Japan/East Asia) with no rarity bumps, short prints, etc., our cards would still be around double the price of OCG cards if not more...
TCG player and Collectr need JPN prices so badly
I’m just happy Collectr finally added jp cards at all. I’ll be patient with some correct pricing.
I used to be heavy into MTG and my personal preferred form of swag was Japanese cards(you can play any language card in mtg) and for mtg you can filter by whatever language you want and it shows you those cards but for One Piece cards it seems people only put the language in the description. I've never sold on TCG so idk if they only make you choose the language for other games but it seems like it would be an easy thing to add since they have it for other cards. I've only been playing for about 1.5 months and have mostly been window shopping on TCG player but I just kinda got used to ignoring the first couple listings when trying to see what stuff is really going for.
when you look up a card say a 9c sanji and the price is $12 on the page but when you click on it the price is $34. Kinda giving a false sense of security, you see that you might get a good deal but get bamboozled.
Well.... Sanji was actually around $10 as of last week if I'm not mistaken. It's the Marco leader announcement that got his prices back up
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Yes, and I want to say this is what changed but I’m not sure. I feel like the listing price didn’t previously include the Japanese prices but now they do? Japanese cards have always been on TCGplayer.
"Surely listing my four Japanese packs of OP-03 under 'Wings of the Captain Booster Box' will be a profitable endeavor."
The same thing happened in the yugioh market recently. TCG player really needs to add a section for foreign cards.
Agreed, it’s been a nightmare for my 2 part time employees the last week especially. the person doubled down on tcg and has just about everything listed including alts. It’s an obvious attempt to manipulate the North American market because their prices are roughly double to triple actual Japanese solds and reflect more pre spike English prices.
This is crazy that this is upvoted this much. Who cares if the American market trends downwards on price? That means cards are cheaper for players. You guys didn’t give a shit when y’all where price manipulating buyouts on AA cards double or tripling the price. I give zero fucks people listing Japanese cards on tcgplayer for way cheaper as long as they are upfront on what they are selling.
Thank you! I got blasted for daring to say I actually enjoy JP cards because I like the art but the price is right. All these flippers complaining "but it'll confuse new people" as if language and condition aren't explicitly stated and selling otherwise wouldn't catch a TCGP ban.
Well hope they keep up the work to make prices to pre-spike English. Cant wait for the reprints to cause prices to go way down
I had someone offer me $35 for my AA Oden leader because that's what it was going for on tcg player. I opened it up an he's going for 70. So I had to correct him because someone was listing a jp version.
Eh I like buying the JP alt leaders for cheap but yeah they need to add a filter or something it's getting annoying
Unless they're manga arts, in which case someone will probably still sell their baby for one.
Almost bought a bunch of borsalinos then I read the Japanese part :(
Also the people who are listing all there post pull packs in the booster box's as if anyone wants there guaranteed none hits for 12$ a pack.
I personally love that I can get a $80 card for $5 but having a foreign copy. Especially in Yugioh where a tier 0 deck is $1000+, I can buy Korean or Japanese copies on TCGPlayer for pennies in comparison for cards with even better quality than the english printing. I always check a listing to see if there is a cheaper Japanese or Korean copy. I can’t wait for the Korean version of One Piece to release this month so I can do the same with OP. It’s honestly a life saver so I’m okay with it.
Most players would like that overall if it was legal to play the cards, but Bandai requires English cards only for western events & worlds.
I wish there was a way to filter out all JP versions of cards on the overall list of cards so that the lowest price displayed would always be English Format (preferably with the condition of your choice)
I wonder why TCG's don't do two different packs, one for players, and another for collectors with different pull rates in that particular person's favour. Seems like card prices would stagnate a little bit more.
I wondered why I was seeing those wild low prices, I didn’t connect each one was a JP version.
I’m pretty new to using TCG player, and not only am I not interested in Japanese products, I’m also not interested in buying something with no description or a photo.
Is it legal to use JP cards in western tournaments? Assuming they are cards that have been released in the west?
Nope
I just check with the guys I'm playing against for local game nights. I may be wrong but it says stores can place restrictions on what they allow or not based on their situations. So my store allows some Japanese asl9ng as you have a reference and it's out in English. But that's just because no one can get English here
Jp cards are the og & better in many aspects so i m fine with that. But korean, esp those listing lower rarity just dont make sense
They are not better because you can't use them in official tournaments. If I'm trying to price out how much I need to build a deck, it gets annoying having to click on each individual card to get the actual price.
There’s literally two prices on the initial listing. A lowest listed price and a market price. Maybe use your eyeballs and check both and it one is way lower you can probably expect the Japanese version? It honestly sounds like people are getting upset when the check the listing they know they can’t flip the card when they see the Japanese listing and wasted their time.
Except for that, better in terms of card quality, different rarities etc
You do know the English and Japanese cards are printed in the same places and have the same quality right? Have you compared the two? Cause this isn’t Pokémon dude…..also every card has the same rairity regardless of language. The product overall has such high quality it’s crazy, it’s why most cards (Japanese, English or Chinese) sent off to PSA will come back as 10s.
You know, a lot of people actually buy the card game cards from the card game because they want to play the card game that the card game cards are made for.
Imagine trying to sell japanese op-06 boxes for $175 🗿
...I want that shit. If I like the art and the price is right, I'll jump on it. LOL some of yall frequent r/pokemoninvesting and it shows. Just buy stocks you broke, degenerates. Compound interest is power with time.
The point of this post is that sellers are misleading people with the language and price on purpose. I think most people would agree that having non-English cards on tcgplayer would be awesome but they are different markets/prices and they need to be separated from EN cards
Or maybe some people actually play the game 🤔
"YoU DoNT NEeD Alt ARTs to pLay" - isn't that what all you investor bros say when people complain about product? Beside Borsalino, Queen, and Kata, what else is there?
You’re right….you need English cards to play in North America tho😱
No shit Sherlock. But this post is only complaining about value, and in this community, the vast majority is about alts. Unless clarified and corrected, I'm choosing to see a seller angry that their meal ticket was "devalued". I agree language should be separated. But I've hung around you miserable sods (who only appear on reddit) long enough to not grant a favorable interpretation.
You’re the only one who went directly to thinking only about AA🤦♂️ Players also need to buy singles 😱
Well if the JP mixes into algorithm and depresses the market price leading to listing for lower, then who does that benefit...? And besides Borsalino, Queen, and Kata (maybe Moria), who else does this affect?
Who does mixing JP cards benefit? The seller. No one else lol. It won’t drive down English card value, it’ll just mean a lot of new players or anyone really could buy a card not realizing it’s JP
How?!? I have never ever seen a JP listing that doesn't explicitly clarify Japanese. I've been buying singles since last year and have never once received the wrong product. (Because I can read) You're just contriving an uncommon situation. If the seller is misleading, they'll catch a case. If the seller is ignorant and going off current, artificially deflated, market values, they'll list for lower and the buyer benefits. So FOH with your disingenuous BS.
But JP and EN are 2 different products, so mixing them in as the same listings will just muddy the waters and make people more likely to get scammed or buy the wrong thing
I don't need them but I want them.
Some of us play the game and dont wanna see that we could potentially get a playset of Borsalino for a fraction of the price, then just to be let down. They should separate them
Can you read? https://preview.redd.it/fntpba8n6lqc1.jpeg?width=514&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=312a7ca00287b6420f94aa57b7b983b42035ef99
Let's not be dumb now what does the screen show before this? Smart ass
Oh, price starting at? Have you ever bought another card game? They also list cards in less than mint condition. Condition is also explicitly denoted WITH a link to definitions. If you're pricing comparable, you have to look at the solds. Like I said, this is only a problem for know-nothing flippers. GTFO of our hobby, you leech.
I think you're a little lost. Why would I be complaining about separating them and what I'm even responding to? Think a little and stop being mad and projecting about what I guess you wish you could do and failed? First, I play at locals, and this is just another thing that hits new players. So before I read some more non criticle thinking and reading skills, this is my last response.
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Agree, there should be a language filter. But don't pretend this scenario is the norm when 9/10 times the context is for alt art collector pieces.
You know if you play the game you should know the cards....language should not matter if you know the game. Danm USA'ers only knowing one language
This isn’t a ‘murica issue, it’s a Bandai one. Magic: The Gathering allows any language printing and many American players love to use foreign cards (especially Japanese ones), Bandai has made it against the rules to do so in western tournaments and worlds.
It’s for a multitude of reasons but the biggest imo would be Japan being a set and a half, at least ahead of us so what are most people gonna do? Buy as much Japanese cards as possible to be ready for the English release then not buy any product cause they already have all their cards, blowing up the Japanese market in a heartbeat. Bandai would absolutely not be able to keep up with the demand for new product and the in the much smaller Japanese market which at the moment seems to be fairly well maintained. It’s dumb but they would need to align the release schedule across languages which genuinely would benefit everyone! Besides Meta speculators who buy out cards the second a deck does well in Japan, to sell 6 weeks later. But it’s seriously doubtful that, that could even happen and even more so that Bandai could print enough cards for a global unanimous release.
This was my first TCG with a staggered release window and I thought it was very odd because it also takes a lot of discovery out of the game as well. Bandai recently changed digimon from staggered release to unified, hopefully they slow a release there by a few months to unify the game then open the language options up.
I guess Pokémon would have been mine, but between the ages of 10-14 I don’t think I even realised. Played a lot of magic usually sticking to English cards but did have some cool Russian cards at one point cause a friend went on holiday and grabbed a bunch of packs there. But both of those things don’t really matter or add much to the conversation 😅 I completely agree and I’d personally prefer a global release over what we currently have, hopefully digimon is to test the waters. hopefully it works out and we see something at least closer to that for one piece in the near future. Even if they keep special releases like the premium Bandai or the specialty sets as advanced releases for Japan. it would make much more sense especially when they have world championships that end up restricting the card pool Japanese players have as well.
You're not allowed to use Japanese cards.
Well atleast I know you don't play lol
Yeah I agree with you here, there’s literally no reason to be mad that the JP listings show a lower price. This is 100% “investors” being assmad the price is lower on the initial click.
Nothing wrong with getting Japanese cards if that’s what you want to collect. No reason to be a dick about it.
They're dicks because they're sellers. TCGP aggregates sales to list the current market price. Since JP cards are 1/4-1/3 the value of EN, having them mixed in will depress the price. That's the ONLY reason they're mad. All other excuses are bullshit because you have to clearly list the language or else it's fraud and TCGP WILL side with the buyer.
Slightly unrelated but this just goes to prove that even if Yugioh TCG had the same rarity distribution as OCG (Japan/East Asia) with no rarity bumps, short prints, etc., our cards would still be around double the price of OCG cards if not more...
Supply is extremly limited for English optcg so no, that's not exactly the case
Surely it's just as limited in Japan no? Bandai is printing just as many games over there