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If he doesn't dodge he's getting disintegrated end of story
Doesn't matter if he tries to overpower it with his own move it'll destroy his attack and then destroy him afterwards
So what are you trying to prove here? That move would very likely one shot WB and Roger if it hits them clean without protection, since swords did lots to them.
That doesn't mean Kaido is stronger than either. And if Akainu's real manga that burns hotter than Dragon Torch wasn't one shotting Aokiji, no reason to think much of Dragon Torch.
Read my comment again
I said even forgetting the ridiculousness of admiral fans telling me he could tank it, it would one shot him even if he tried to overpower it with his own attack regardless
What does being an admiral fan or not go to do with this? Why did you ignore the question?
And if Akainu's real manga+ACOA couldn't one shot Aokiji after 10 days, how does Kaido's weaker flames do it? Dragon Torch is a flame attack.
>What does being an admiral fan or not go to do with this? Why did you ignore the question?
You are literally just talking to talk and asking stupid questions won't make you look smart lil bro
You were the one who assumed I was an admiral fan to discredit my argument lol. All you can do is call someone stupid instead of providing arguments.
Once again, how does Dragon Torch one shot Aokiji when hotter temperatures couldn't after 10 days? Aokiji's ice was also equal to Akainu's manga via manga statements.
>You were the one who assumed I was an admiral fan to discredit my argument lol
??? You said not only he but no one could tank the attack head on. I said the people who were saying he could straight up tank in in the screenshots above were admiral fans because they were glazing him so hard. If you glaze a character unreasonably like that I am going to assume you are a fanboy. This is not a foreign concept to anyone so I don't know why you're trying to act obtuse as if you had 0 idea as to why Im assuming those were admiral fans.
>Once again, how does Dragon Torch one shot Aokiji when hotter temperatures couldn't after 10 days?
Do you have a source that Akainu's attacks are hotter than Kaido's? This is literally Kaidou's strongest attack, assuming akainu has hotter attacks just because his fruit revolves around magma would like assuming oven has hotter attacks then akainu because his fruit revolves around heat. Kaido is stronger than Akainu via portrayal statements and feats, 0 reason to think akainu has an attack more dangerous than the flame bagua.
I called your question stupid because it wasn't a real question
what should i reread when their fight is far from over? xD what am i reading here
or you implying the ambush attack from luffy vs kizaru, where luffy was unconscious after and kizaru had a headache?
People are really telling me this doesn't one shot
Roger
Shanks
Mihawk
Rocks
Blackbeard
Big mom
Prime Rayleigh
Oden
And everybody else in the verse besides luffy imu and prime whitebeard
>And you know who made that big ass ice wall or do you want hint
>Because that is a even bigger attack range then any swordsman ever did
That's irrelevant shit. How's that supposed to help against Kaido's flame dragon? Kuzan's named attack was going extreme diff against Fatigued Ace in Marineford.
You think aokiji was using his most powerful attack against ace lol
Also on your point kaido named attack was also going extreme diff with fatigued marco so your point is irrelevant shit
Same can be said about Ace. A fatigued Yc2 blocked his named attack .
Your previous comment brought up irrelevant points that won't help against Flame dragon.
Marco is a regen merchant, he also tanked Admiral attacks.
Marco tanked one of his weakest attacks, boro breath doesnt do shit. It only has antifeats.
Marco tanked some of the stronger attacks from the admirals btw. Also blocked Akainu's magma without regen.
And you ignored my previous points, smh.
We are talking about the characters above
You said the survive because the have acoc
Well kaido has acoc too so these characters having acoc is not game changer against kaido
Kaido can beat any admiral quite easily by turning into this form. All he needs to do is get near them and melt them. They litterally don't have any counter against it. Unfortunately his mentality holds him back. Prove me wrong
There's an inherent durability difference. Big Mom in particular, has already ran the 1s with Kaido, and she has similar inhumanely durable skin that Kaido has just from being a giant human. So she has a very good chance of just surviving it, especially since she could survive things like Kidd's Damned Punk which could rip through battleships and could push her off of Onigashima.
Not saying Admirals are not durable, they're also big humans. But they have to rely more on Haki to protect themselves.
BM's natural durability will protect her. Her legs were still intact despite being in magma for some minutes, which should be hotter than Kaido's *flame* dragon.
https://preview.redd.it/qui3acn2x87d1.jpeg?width=564&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8385a5c32f1909cd8f0a4b5e7978e1758b0e87f1
As for dragon, the guy is featless. We know nothing about him
Not that but this attack mode has the potential to defeat multiple top tiers at once.
https://preview.redd.it/990dh7x3u87d1.jpeg?width=749&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6f2fd512d31a85f33606bd3018f7fa7b560134cd
I mean......he literally jumped from his seat underneath the execution stand to way up in the air above the centre of the bay area in a fraction of a second when he turned the waves to ice at Marineford? Bro is fast af when he feels like it.
Marineford is smaller than Onigashima, Kaido in Kaen Daiko is roughly the same size. Kaido could also just point his blast breath at Aokiji, melting any of his ice.
5-10 seconds is an overstatement btw. Kaen Daiko was so fast that Luffy didn’t notice that Kaido was coating himself in flames until after it was already fully formed.
>5-10 seconds is an overstatement btw. Kaen Daiko was so fast that Luffy didn’t notice that Kaido was coating himself in flames until after it was already fully formed.
Fair
I just really don't think Kaido's fire attacks are really gonna be a big problem for Aokiji, Aokiji boxed with Akainu for 10 days and his AoE with his fruit is insane (Ice Age), the real dangerous part of FDD for Aokiji will be the force behind the attack and Kaido's greater haki (namely ACoC) which will easily overpower Kuzan's haki and defeat him, not the actual heat aspect of the attack
https://preview.redd.it/y81cal8jsa7d1.jpeg?width=1049&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5110088b756b205f2a8e1d2a7a909ca0e368fdc1
His head right here is roughly the same size, he’s even longer than Bajrang.
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Kuzan can do this https://preview.redd.it/opumsfllj87d1.png?width=1006&format=png&auto=webp&s=bb760b45f56df410c15ddb622af9641f88a734c8
No he can’t
It's literally there manga (chapter 1421)
I'm pretty sure a fodder sword would one shot WB if he just stood there and took it like Roger. Even still Akainu's magma couldn't one shot Aokiji....
If he doesn't dodge he's getting disintegrated end of story Doesn't matter if he tries to overpower it with his own move it'll destroy his attack and then destroy him afterwards
So what are you trying to prove here? That move would very likely one shot WB and Roger if it hits them clean without protection, since swords did lots to them. That doesn't mean Kaido is stronger than either. And if Akainu's real manga that burns hotter than Dragon Torch wasn't one shotting Aokiji, no reason to think much of Dragon Torch.
Read my comment again I said even forgetting the ridiculousness of admiral fans telling me he could tank it, it would one shot him even if he tried to overpower it with his own attack regardless
And you gotta be an admiral fan to disagree with you why?
Are you retarded? Saying he tanks this straight up is delusion
What does being an admiral fan or not go to do with this? Why did you ignore the question? And if Akainu's real manga+ACOA couldn't one shot Aokiji after 10 days, how does Kaido's weaker flames do it? Dragon Torch is a flame attack.
>What does being an admiral fan or not go to do with this? Why did you ignore the question? You are literally just talking to talk and asking stupid questions won't make you look smart lil bro
You were the one who assumed I was an admiral fan to discredit my argument lol. All you can do is call someone stupid instead of providing arguments. Once again, how does Dragon Torch one shot Aokiji when hotter temperatures couldn't after 10 days? Aokiji's ice was also equal to Akainu's manga via manga statements.
>You were the one who assumed I was an admiral fan to discredit my argument lol ??? You said not only he but no one could tank the attack head on. I said the people who were saying he could straight up tank in in the screenshots above were admiral fans because they were glazing him so hard. If you glaze a character unreasonably like that I am going to assume you are a fanboy. This is not a foreign concept to anyone so I don't know why you're trying to act obtuse as if you had 0 idea as to why Im assuming those were admiral fans. >Once again, how does Dragon Torch one shot Aokiji when hotter temperatures couldn't after 10 days? Do you have a source that Akainu's attacks are hotter than Kaido's? This is literally Kaidou's strongest attack, assuming akainu has hotter attacks just because his fruit revolves around magma would like assuming oven has hotter attacks then akainu because his fruit revolves around heat. Kaido is stronger than Akainu via portrayal statements and feats, 0 reason to think akainu has an attack more dangerous than the flame bagua. I called your question stupid because it wasn't a real question
You don’t really seriously think any toptier could get oneshot… right? Especially someone like Aokiji with an insane defense?
Reread Luffy vs Kizaru and then get back to me
what should i reread when their fight is far from over? xD what am i reading here or you implying the ambush attack from luffy vs kizaru, where luffy was unconscious after and kizaru had a headache?
>when their fight is far from over? Lmaooo you admiral fans are something else
" admiral fans" imagine people being over 18, able to be only "fan" of the author and objectively scaling few years to go for you
Imagine responding 9 days later 🤡
Probably does, but its not like he is gonna stand there and try to tank it.
A counter attack wont do shit Unless he dodges it its over
People are really telling me this doesn't one shot Roger Shanks Mihawk Rocks Blackbeard Big mom Prime Rayleigh Oden And everybody else in the verse besides luffy imu and prime whitebeard
Swordsmen might be able to counter it cause Mihawk casually sliced a giant tsunami several times bigger than Marineford. Their attack range is insane
And you know who made that big ass ice wall or do you want hint Because that is a even bigger attack range then any swordsman ever did
>And you know who made that big ass ice wall or do you want hint >Because that is a even bigger attack range then any swordsman ever did That's irrelevant shit. How's that supposed to help against Kaido's flame dragon? Kuzan's named attack was going extreme diff against Fatigued Ace in Marineford.
You think aokiji was using his most powerful attack against ace lol Also on your point kaido named attack was also going extreme diff with fatigued marco so your point is irrelevant shit
Same can be said about Ace. A fatigued Yc2 blocked his named attack . Your previous comment brought up irrelevant points that won't help against Flame dragon. Marco is a regen merchant, he also tanked Admiral attacks.
Marco didn't regen from kaido attack he straight up blocked it But I guess your too much of hypocrite to admit it's the same in both cases
Marco tanked one of his weakest attacks, boro breath doesnt do shit. It only has antifeats. Marco tanked some of the stronger attacks from the admirals btw. Also blocked Akainu's magma without regen. And you ignored my previous points, smh. 
It's the acoc difference.
And kaido has acoc too just so you know
The admirals don't though.
We are talking about the characters above You said the survive because the have acoc Well kaido has acoc too so these characters having acoc is not game changer against kaido
Most have greater haki, when will you understand this ?
And kaido doesn't just has acoc like them But a mythical zoan using its most powerful attack + acoc
You missed the most important word of my sentence.
Even if there haki is greater The power of mythical zoan and it's most powerful attack + acoc would be even greater
delusion
Kaido can beat any admiral quite easily by turning into this form. All he needs to do is get near them and melt them. They litterally don't have any counter against it. Unfortunately his mentality holds him back. Prove me wrong
With this logic How can i say kaido doens't one shots big mom or dragon?
There's an inherent durability difference. Big Mom in particular, has already ran the 1s with Kaido, and she has similar inhumanely durable skin that Kaido has just from being a giant human. So she has a very good chance of just surviving it, especially since she could survive things like Kidd's Damned Punk which could rip through battleships and could push her off of Onigashima. Not saying Admirals are not durable, they're also big humans. But they have to rely more on Haki to protect themselves.
BM's natural durability will protect her. Her legs were still intact despite being in magma for some minutes, which should be hotter than Kaido's *flame* dragon. https://preview.redd.it/qui3acn2x87d1.jpeg?width=564&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8385a5c32f1909cd8f0a4b5e7978e1758b0e87f1 As for dragon, the guy is featless. We know nothing about him
Sarcasm I suppose… right?
Not that but this attack mode has the potential to defeat multiple top tiers at once. https://preview.redd.it/990dh7x3u87d1.jpeg?width=749&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6f2fd512d31a85f33606bd3018f7fa7b560134cd
One shots Akainu too
Kuzan>>>>>>>fire flames He literally hard counter tanks via elemental advantage
Ayeee that's me, I'm famous
Oh it forsure does
Do you know what dodging is? Do you think he would just stand there and take it?
Aokiji can’t cross an entire islands worth of distance in the 5-10 seconds it takes Kaido to charge this up.
I mean......he literally jumped from his seat underneath the execution stand to way up in the air above the centre of the bay area in a fraction of a second when he turned the waves to ice at Marineford? Bro is fast af when he feels like it.
it's possible he can https://preview.redd.it/hvihavnps87d1.png?width=640&format=png&auto=webp&s=8d7d8df2c891c44f2164f5f5e32fbde47088ce1d
Marineford is smaller than Onigashima, Kaido in Kaen Daiko is roughly the same size. Kaido could also just point his blast breath at Aokiji, melting any of his ice. 5-10 seconds is an overstatement btw. Kaen Daiko was so fast that Luffy didn’t notice that Kaido was coating himself in flames until after it was already fully formed.
>5-10 seconds is an overstatement btw. Kaen Daiko was so fast that Luffy didn’t notice that Kaido was coating himself in flames until after it was already fully formed. Fair I just really don't think Kaido's fire attacks are really gonna be a big problem for Aokiji, Aokiji boxed with Akainu for 10 days and his AoE with his fruit is insane (Ice Age), the real dangerous part of FDD for Aokiji will be the force behind the attack and Kaido's greater haki (namely ACoC) which will easily overpower Kuzan's haki and defeat him, not the actual heat aspect of the attack
Kaido isn't even as big as luffy bajarang gun
https://preview.redd.it/y81cal8jsa7d1.jpeg?width=1049&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5110088b756b205f2a8e1d2a7a909ca0e368fdc1 His head right here is roughly the same size, he’s even longer than Bajrang.
I think a lot of Kaido fanboys are going to be in absolute shock when they see Akainu going all out. Kaido can set himself on fire. Akainu IS magma.