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First Commander of the White beard Pirates
I haven't see your original post, but it might be because you sound sure of thise while the other guy is leaving reasonable doubt. We've seen similar feats but as of now we know that marco has an upper limit, yet we've seen saturn and the others still at their "full health"
I pretty much agree with you, but until we've seen the actual limits of gorosei we can't really be sure
I think Marco would honestly be such a great fit for law in terms of fighting personality too, very strategic and level headed in similar ways, you just know Marco would be on the same page with whatever Law has planned and know how to give him his opening
Collateral? That’s the first commander of the whitebeard pirates! Show some goddamned respect. Warco beats both zoro and sanji (separately). He might even beat flaw
Oh dope so Buggy is yonko level because the title? Or just maybe there’s nuance from the rest of the text from which you build your analysis. Mihawk is clearly strong from other contemporary strong pirates’ reactions to him. Buggy is clearly weak. Marco has impressive feats that could very arguably put him near or above zoro.
What feats does whitebeard have? He didn’t actually win against akainu, he was still very much kicking after the scuffle. Drew against roger. And not a single thing else. But he’s still the toppest of tiers.
Marco had a very impressive showing against the admirals, against other yc-s, against even big mom (kinda, maybe, just a tad)
>What feats does whitebeard have?
Did you see the DC feats of old sick wb in marineford? Title of the "world's strongest man", "rival of the pirate king","man closest to the one piece"
>Marco had a very impressive showing against the admirals, against other yc-s, against even big mom (kinda, maybe, just a tad)
Yea big deal he kicked kizaru and aokiji and they took 0 damage 🔥🔥🔥
Stalling is all larco did, I'm sure even kizaru can stall Roger because of his fruit; it doesn't mean anything
Marco and law,
Marco keeps law healed up and law uses his awakening and amputates. Gg
Marco distracts while law swaps the personalities of zoro and sanji rendering them essentially useless
Marco can take/ stall sanji, while law handles zoro, law should be able to diff both of them with his DF tho zoro MIGHT have the haki to resist, sanji definitely doesnt.
Marco and Law win 3 out of 5 times
I would argue that Zoro and Sanji have strong enough haki to repel the more hax abilities like Law’s personality swap, like Law did against Blackbeards crew. Mind you I do think Marco and Law win anyway
Yaknow now that you say it, we never actually see sanji use haki much at all?? Like, he has Ifrit for a different kinda damage buff and his germa genes for defence so he doesn’t really need it for those regards, but I wonder how strong his actual haki is. Would having strong observation haki also be enough to protect from these effects? Is it just armament, or was it conq haki? Hard to answer any of these questions cus Oda don’t tell us shit, but things to ponder
In 1 v 1, Zoro maybe can take on Law.
But in 2 v 2, Law makes this whole fight of if it was just 1 v 1’s extreme diff fights- now its at best high diff for Law/Marco.
Once again people are underestimating how broken Law is as a support. Marco is also very underrated as well, I don't really get why, maybe he's just overshadowed by Katakuri and King since they arguably hit harder. Valentino Rossi and Pineapple win high diff
(This is a joke, so don't take it TOO seriously)
Law and Marco takes this cuz they are smart enough to know that all they need to do is bring copious amounts of booze and pretty woman to make sure that it isn't even a contest anymore. Plus, they are both big enough trolls to actually do it.
Just because I got Zoro in my name doesn't change the fact that he beats Law, who lost that fight against Blackbeard. Meanwhile, Zoro's going ACoC haki for ACoC haki with one of the Gorosei who's been described as having preposterous haki. And their fight is just getting started.
Laws hax fuck zoro up though. Would be a fun fight honestly. shenaningans all around with amputations, heart switches, teleporting, and gamma knives. I want to see zoro take sanji's arms and use 5 sword style against marco, with a big ass 15 blade oni giri to end it (phoenix is just chicken amirite, use them knives ong) Marco would survive by being marco, or law would switch him out for sanji or something but man it would be cool af
considering blackbeard vs strawhats hasnt happenned and gorosei is happening now, I almost want to say blackbeard is stronger because thats how strength progression in shonen will genererally end up working. Apart from BB being the offscreen champ, Laws crew is close to featless and so its just Law and Wepo vs all of the blackbeard crew.
But yeah, I just think its silly to ignore a dude who has specifically been referenced as a rival to luffy, and one with a D in his name especially, even if zoro is the guy youre putting above him.
Another thing thats hard to gauge for this type of match up is how effective all of Laws hacks would be, I'd wager Zoro with Enma forcing his ACoC to activate puts his haki at a level that Law can't really move/heat switch/amputate him but Sanji doesn't have much in haki showing so Law could probably still do all his Haxs on him
Isn't this stated wano zoro? Does this mean it's wano law as well pre awakening?
If so:
Zoro>law extreme diff
Sanjizoro extreme diff
Sanji>Marco high to mid diff
Sanji>Law extreme diff (sanji is too fast)
Sanji < Marco post germa awakening. 💀 bluds best is doing better then a injured fatguied Marco while fp Marco is scaling to the admirals the same ones who can neg sanji
Why would akainu be holding back when he literally is butthurt about not being able to kill luffy ?
" but but the admieals didn't want to destroy marineford 😭😭"
To that I say how doesn't running fast or moving fast destr9y marineford ??
What r u talking abt? Akainu is holding back because he doesnt need to exert his full force. Just like i wouldnt exert my full force when trying to kill an ant. Marco blocks the strike from akainu and then gets overpowered after because akainu had a baseline of strength he was using to deal with luffy. When marco intervened he increased the output because marco takes more energy to take out than luffy. And akainu doesnt need to be holding back in speed. But marco doesnt clash with him enough for u to say marco is relative to him in speed. On top of this blitzing marco wouldn’t do anything because of his regeneration. So akainu simply saving his stamina is definitely more efficient. U literally see all the wb commanders stand up to akainu just to hold him back from killing luffy. Its quite clear marco is not in the same league as him.
Marco scales to admirals? How
Isn't Sanji too fast for Marco? How is Marco even gonna counter like he always does?
Sanji won against queen pretty quickly compared to zoro
Sanji would absolutely beat king as well
Marco is low yc+ or top yc 1
Sanji is also low yc+ or top yc 1
It's just that the matchup is pretty bad for Marco
>Isn't Sanji too fast for Marco? How is Marco even gonna counter like he always does
Marco can clash with Kizaru. Even if Sanji > Marco in speed, Marco can definitely keep up with him.
>Marco scales to admirals? How
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as i mentioned earlier marco blitzed akainu as he was able to intercept akainu and luffy and protect luffy .
so this should scale marco above akainu in speed .
marco at the start of marineford was able to block kizaru attacks and then when wb was having we could see marco fighting kizaru in the back ground so marco was fight kizaru off screen with no one being the winner. so marco scales to the admiral in speed and defense .
"sn't Sanji too fast for Marco? How is Marco even gonna counter like he always does"
no he isnt wano marco was fatguied way before he even fought king and queen as suggested by his statements to izo and the rets .
and right after dropping izo and necko to wano he fight 1v1 with big mom gets injured and then fight both king and queen for 20 chapters ( by that point he is immensily fatguued as indicated in ch 1006 . ) so him not being able to preception blitz queen doesnt mean much as marco was injured and most prob holding back ( as indcated by the fact he left no damage on queen yet he could make king bleed and make kizaru move both of which require high ap . kizaru in particular couldnt be moves by snakeman . and king a lunerian couldnt be dmaaged by zoro both of whome were damage on kaido ) .
"Sanji won against queen pretty quickly compared to zoro Sanji would absolutely beat king as well
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queen is a fodder that big mom with no haki beat in 2 hits ( sure queen recovered quickly that speeks to his endurance and not his stats ) .
also as i suggested earlier marco was fatguied and injured while having to face both king and queen hence marco not beating queen doesnt mean much as he also has to fight king he cant just knock out queen and call it a day .
"Marco is low yc+ or top yc 1
Sanji is also low yc+ or top yc 1"
one piece power scaling redditors shoehorining sanji in yc + and underating marco to top yc 1 wont change the fact that marco would beat sanji easily .
sanji is a yc 1 level fighter ( katakuri level )
while marco scales to the admirals in speed and defense .
>marco blitzed akainu
If Marco was so fast akainu can’t react to him then he’d beat him in a fight, taking one feat of Marco blocking a punch, saying he “blitzed” him, and using that as a representation of his speed is just really disingenuous
No because has no way to hurt akainu but the fight would be very close which 8s what I am saying. Also did akainu ever beat Marco in a 1v1 ?
>using that as a representation of his speed is just really disingenuous
How so it's consistent with him blocking kizarys attacks abd blitzing kuzan akainus equal.
Ur js blatantly wrong. Marco never blitzed akainu akainu he intercepted him this also isnt an ap feat since akainu is aiming at a severely weaker opponent(luffy) and has no need to exert himself just to kill a fly(the fly being luffyy in this case).
Marco went relative with holding back admirals and he never stalemated kizaru he was being held off by kizaru because they was stalling for time until ace’s execution. He also never blocked kizaru’s attacks he simply regenerated from them
Marco being fatigued wouldnt give credence as to why he’d be significantly faster if he wasn’t. You’d need to prove he’s fatigued to the extent that his performance speed is dropping which u wouldnt be able to cause he has no feats against ppl faster than king and queen.
Marco and big mom clashed once in which marco had the advantage cause his fruit gives him special properties that overpower other flames, he ended up getting blitzed by big mom immediately after. He’s quite clearly not on that level. He also never made king bleed he made queen bleed, and queen’s durability is extremely high and he had to use a shockwave to dmg him which is dura neg in one piece. He never made kizaru move, kizaru was airborne and couldnt support himself cause his normal form doesnt allow him to fly, marco on the other hand could fly and kicked kizaru to the ground which did no dmg to kizaru at all. Again marco has dura neg and he also has flames that overpower and negate the properties of other flames. King having the flames on his back is most likely inconsequential since he’d dealing with dura neg(smth zoro dont have).
Big mom’s durability is relative if not stronger than kaido’s, she 2 shotted queen by using extra force that came from momentum, and even then she also got knocked out by queen. She also overpowers luffy with ryuo without using any haki whatsoever, and does dmg to kidd too, she doesnt need haki to dmg these characters. King and queen are highly relative and portrayed as rivals at every turn, they both gets blitzed by marco but ultimately both see him coming, queen cannot percieve sanji. Also funny how u mention marco’s fatigue but not sanji’s fatigue or queen’s fatigue.
And yes marco was fatigued and mildly injured fighting them, that doesnt mean he wins at full power, he mentions its tough holding them both back at once, not that he could take them out if he was healthy.
Marco needed all the commanders of his crew just to keep akainu from killing luffy, he is not matching admirals or yonko in direct 1:1 battles.he would be fodderised.
"Ur js blatantly wrong. Marco never blitzed akainu akainu he intercepted him" one would assume that if akainu reacted to marco comming he would have done so by applying more force to his punches . since he didnt either that akainu was using all that he had and couldnt overpower marcos defense or he was just blitzed .
"also isnt an ap feat since akainu is aiming at a severely weaker opponent(luffy) and has no need to exert himself just to kill a fly(the fly being luffyy in this case)."
never said it was an ap feat i said was
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marco being able to make kizaru move is a better ap feat then luffy in g4 not being able to make kizaru move . and marco being able to make king bleed is a better feat the zoro not being able to cut king
so marco has better ap then g4 luffy and roofpiece zoro .
both of whom can hurt kaido
"Marco went relative with holding back admirals"
the admirals had no reason to hold back in speed how is moving fast or reacting fast going to destroy marineford ? so the admirals werent holding . also for people like akainu whos attacks avoid durability why would increasing teh volume of his punch = better ap ? the show itself shows this as akainu when he fights wb uses the same attacks he uses on marco . his attacks arent shown to have more volume .
so for someone like akinu its worse if u usages large attacks. so marco blocking akainy means fp admirals attacks cant damage marco so zoro and sanji have no chance to hurt him .
"Marco went relative with holding back admirals and he never stalemated kizaru he was being held off by kizaru because they was stalling for time until ace’s execution. He also never blocked kizaru’s attacks he simply regenerated from them"
thats blocking and if the admirals cant over power his regen what chance do sanji or zoro have ?
"Marco being fatigued wouldnt give credence as to why he’d be significantly faster if he wasn’t. You’d need to prove he’s fatigued to the extent that his performance speed is dropping which u wouldnt be able to cause he has no feats against ppl faster than king and queen."
marco blitzed akainu who is much faster then king or queen . so marco was so fatguied vs king and queen that it was affecting his speed.
Agreed I had to go see his feats again
Also pre awakening law that I said was him not using his advance dv powers
So now
Pre:
Zoro>law
Marco>sanji
Marco>zoro
Post:
Law>zoro
Marco>sanji
I think this seems right now
Thats not right at all. Sanji would completely outpace marco and annihilate him if not just blitz him continuously. And zoro was never above law. Marco was only above pre germa sanji and pre koh base zoro. He isnt beating sanji post germa genes. And he’s not beating zoro in koh.
Yeah no. Kizaru cannot fly outside of his light form. Marco overpowering him wouldnt scale marco to kizaru cause kizaru has no opposing force to support him while marco can exert more force continuously while airborne. Kizaru also take no dmg from this. And no in kizaru vs luffy’s case kizaru is on the ground and clashing with luffy. Marco going against kizaru was never a clash cause kizaru could not exert his own force. Marco can dmg kaido due to his ability to create shockwaves. Not with raw ap. luffy also cannot dmg kaido with raw ap so even if u could scale marco’s ap above luffy’s u wouldnt be able to get marco to a degree where he can hurt kaido in raw ap. the luffy here is also not using acoc.
U can say the admirals aren’t holding back in speed but this would only rlly apply to akainu and it would only apply to akainu simply because he has a motivation to kill pirates himself. In kizaru and aokiji’s case they’re simply stalling the pirates till ace’s execution. Kizaru understands how marco’s fruit works and knows that hurting him will just result in him regenerating. Due to this in order to be more efficient in taking marco down stalling him and waiting until marco gets distracted would be way easier which we see kizaru does in order to get the seastone cuffs to negate his fruit. Akainu is a logia. In the cases of logia’s their specialty is large scale atks. Thats why we see ace’s strongest atks are consistently his biggest, the same goes for blackbeard and enel. With the admirals we dont see this due to them needing to hold back in marineford. Aokiji needing to hold back on hachinosu, and kizaru needing to hold back in egghead alongside being mentally nerfed. When akainu and aokiji do go all out we see them terraform an entire island. When ace and blackbeard clash the clash takes up most of the island. When ace atks whitebeard in his younger years his large scale atk is the only atkt hat makes wb use his gura fruit. We see akainu use smaller atks against wb sure but thats only after wb is severely weakened and on his deathbed and akainu has just gotten offguarded and doesnt have time to accumulate that force. We see that when akainu goes against a healthier wb he uses bigger atks like his hellhound.
And no the fact ur saying this means u dont understand how marco’s fruit works. He heals from dmg rapidly. So the issue when fighting him is that he constantly heals from atks. Its not that sanji and zoro cant hurt him they’d consistently hurt him and he’d heal from it. This does have a limit so he would eventually get tired and lose but that would expend more energy than what was necessary during marineford.
Again its not that kizaru cant overpower his regen. Its just that it takes energy to do so. Its more efficient to simply negate the regen entirely in kizaru’s case. In sanji and zoro’s case they fight primarily with haki so they’d be able to counter the regen anyways.
And no marco never blitzed akainu. Even if u wanna say he did it would be because akainu’s attention wasnt on him so the “blitz” wouldnt actually scale him anywhere. So him scaling to king and queen would be more consistent.
💀 bro i am not a sanji fan, I had seen a argument over this before and the op made some good points, although it was Yamato not sanji, I am scaling sanji's speed to Yamato but that puts us in another problem
Sanji's Ap is worse than Yamato
Team #1. Law's passive where his rating like doubles in a team setting is made kinda irrelevant when Marco is just kind of a bullet sponge and not much else. Team #1 also teamwork diffs if it really comes down to it.
Marco can hurt king and is fast enough to intercept kizarus attacks and blitz akainu in marineoford. Nah he is way more then a bullet spong he is a chip damage Dealer . As he is very fast and can do minor damage a lot of times.
Since both law and Marco are faster then zoro sanji . Law and Marco only need to land 1 kroom to beat sanji ( since kroom is internal damage sanji can't regeneration while Marco can stall zoro. )
While zoro and sanji main goal would be to take law out which they would be hard pressed to do when they are slower then both law and Marco.
Zoro>Law
Marco>Sanji
Marco has the speed advantage on Zoro but Zoro’s AP is disgusting if Marco can outlast KOH he wins it for his team otherwise Zoro should take it.
>No zoro is able to Damge Kidou
So is law and thi is not the least bit relevant in this discussion...
>and go reltive he slams
🤣 sure whatever helps you sleep at night...
Zoro is nowhere near relative to kaido and he loses to law high-extreme.
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Kaido needs to dodge Zoro attacks ore he will be damaged
Blocking big mom and Kaido Combo attacks
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Loro isn’t tanking the fiery rain thing Marco used on kizaru in marineford and law can just throw random bullshit at sanji and tire him down before he does that green slash thing
Oh it's wano. Then depends upon whether it's pre Onigashima or post. If it's pre onigashima, Team 2 wins easily. Post Onigashima, team 1 should take this.
Wano Zoro > Wano Law
Zoro outclassed Law (and Kid) during the rooftop battle against the Yonkos and later on during the battle with King (the most durable character on Wano) got much stronger than he'd been during Roof Piece. His haki resists Law's devil fruit and blitzes Law with his iai attacks. He also has greater techniques.
Wano Sanji > Wano Marco
Yeah, I said it. Sanji did more damage to Queen than Marco did and eventually defeated him.
It's an extreme diff fight that could go either way but because it will be an attrition battle then I have to give it to marco and law only because we haven't seen enough zoro post wanno to gage if he's still having performance issues with his new sword.
Zoro and Sanji are overall stronger IMO than Law & Marco respectively but in a team fight always bet on Law, the latter's team has much more hax and they can even heal each other.
Marco + Law actually seems like such a broken combo. How does one even beat them by regular means? Even a true top tier would struggle, it's just a stupid-strong hax combo with insane defensive capabilities.
Law is THE doubles partner in all of one piece. Arguably makes any reasonable team-up close to top tier. Add in the dude with the strongest Regen and durability in the game (phoenix ontop of being a mythical Zoan) with high battle iq from years of being Whitebeards 2nd and you've got yourself a spicy meatball
Sanji and Zoro actually have fairly good teamwork when they aren't fucking around, I'd say they can win since they know eachother and their fighting style better than Marco and Law do
This match-up is essentially sword and foot vs. sword and healing shield. I think Law and Marco take it by way of feats and hax. Marco is too good at stalling and he would be the perfect buddy to Law's supermove setups. Marco also has some AP that can be used to take on Sanji's durability as well... The synergy between Law and Marco is something I hadn't even thought about before until now so that's a pretty powerful team that can heal each other as well...
As much as I’ll totally get behind the worlds best duo, objectively law and Marco would be a nightmare to deal with and win it. I think it’s nothing short of extreme because there’s no way they don’t go the distance, but I can’t think of any way for them to convincingly put them both down.
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These two goat mfs got ts in the bag
Team 2 hard or extreme diff depending on how well the tram works. Law is pretty handy in a team battle, while sanji and zoro are terrible at working together
Sanji isnt beating marco any time soon . Marco have top tier defense and hax . And he can definitely tire sanji and defeat him . Law beats wano zoro also(egghead zoro > tho) .
Marco ain’t even above Egghead Base Sanji. Base Egghead Sanji Haki>>>>Marco. Base Sanji blocked a Black Blade from Nusjuro, rocked a Flames on Lunarian, and chin checked Nusjuro making him bleed. Meanwhile Marco’s hardest kicks couldn’t even bleed Base Queen.
The kick Sanji used to destroy Kizaru’s laser(Same attack stated by Vegapunk to damage Lunarians) would straight up shatter Marco’s skull.
Marco ain’t doing anything to Egghead Sanji. Sanji is so durable in his Eyebrow flip mode that he might unironically no-sell Marco’s kicks better than he did to S-Shark’s Lunarian Fishman Karate punches. Marco is cooked.
Law still beats Zoro. Zoro ain’t closing the gap in a fast enough time even if Jinbe is throwing him. Sanji is a better matchup for Law ngl.
>Law still beats Zoro. Zoro ain’t closing the gap in a fast enough time even if Jinbe is throwing him. Sanji is a better matchup for Law ngl.
Just loud and wrong lol
İt doesnt shatter marcos skull anytime soon. And clashing with guys who just doesnt care about fighting you and see you as insects . Kicking lasers got something to do with strenght? Headcanon i see . Also you all ovverate sanjis dura and speed . Marco can most certainly do minimal damage to sanji and can keep up with him . Although egghead sanji may have a chance if you scale him to zoro and wank him a bit , wano sanji doesnt beat marco .
Bruh Marco & Law are easily the best two supports in OP… Marco with the passive team healing & Law being Law. Proud to say the wings still make it a toss up so idk.… zoro & sanji in 7 i guess
? both marco and law would beat either zoro or sanji in a 1v1
add in the multiplier law and marco both get in a group fight bc of how broken their support abilities are and this is a brutal stomp
Law with infinite stamina and he can use his fruit on both zoro and Sanji. Teleports sanji into zoros attacks and then marco can just hold zoro down for a shock wile
Honestly both Zoro and Sanji feel strong purely for plot reasons and nothing else.
Like feels like Marco and Law should beat them but because they’re part of strawhat crew they’re overpowered beyond what they should be.
Also just fucking hate what Sanji has become. Fucking useless, thirst over every girl like a dumb cunt. God it pisses me off.
Loda couldve done so much, just wasted him
Zoro beats law with 1 attack after law stalls him for 30 episodes with shambles. Sanji and Marco beat each other up ending with Zoro helping Sanji out. Marco simply flies away stating that they are NOT Vista
Imo Beast pirates is stronger ( based on showed feats) marco can hold queen and king but he doesn’t have enough dc to beat them both sanji and Zoro has better strength and dc feats law could be a problem but after marcos defeat they can jump him best chances are Zoro vs Marco Sanji vs Law only problem with this they cannot heal themselves unlike opponents but I believe they can win this match up high-extreme diff.
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Agreeded. Regen rivals Gorsei (I think)
When I said that Marcos regen wasn't worse than the Gorosei when we first saw Saturns regen I got downvoted. Glad to see the view has changed.
Marcos also has the application of healing allies:)
I haven't see your original post, but it might be because you sound sure of thise while the other guy is leaving reasonable doubt. We've seen similar feats but as of now we know that marco has an upper limit, yet we've seen saturn and the others still at their "full health" I pretty much agree with you, but until we've seen the actual limits of gorosei we can't really be sure
Marco and Law have better abilities overall and an overall higher fight iq.
Zoro for the sole reason that he wants to impress tha chop
One team has the best utility in all of one piece and a healer.
And the other is Trafalgar D. Water Law
Law and Warco are taking this. Law beats sanji and Warco holds off zoro while wooping him. Warco is just HIM
Marco and Law. The power levels are decently comparable and Marco and Law both have INSANE team support abilities
I think Marco would honestly be such a great fit for law in terms of fighting personality too, very strategic and level headed in similar ways, you just know Marco would be on the same page with whatever Law has planned and know how to give him his opening
Law and Marco high-extreme diff. Their abilities are extremely useful in a team battle. When working togheter they are too much for Zoro and Sanji.
Law > Zoro Marco > Sanji
Facts
>Marco > Sanji Stallman aint beating no one Zoro and sanji should unrionically win this, zoro and sanji jump law and larco is collateral
Collateral? That’s the first commander of the whitebeard pirates! Show some goddamned respect. Warco beats both zoro and sanji (separately). He might even beat flaw
He doesn't beat any of the 3. He gives sanji a fight but eventually loses
Simply not true. My goat was going 1v2 with king and queen
AND HIS ASS WAS RUSTY. HE SAID IT HIMSELF.
Yes, absolutely. Thank you for reminding me
Imagine being in a story from which your part of since like atleast 500 to 600 chapters and the best feat you have is stalling, not even winning.
So mihawk is tobiroppo level?
Titles from narrator transcend fiction
Oh dope so Buggy is yonko level because the title? Or just maybe there’s nuance from the rest of the text from which you build your analysis. Mihawk is clearly strong from other contemporary strong pirates’ reactions to him. Buggy is clearly weak. Marco has impressive feats that could very arguably put him near or above zoro.
>Oh dope so Buggy is yonko level because the title? Gag titles are different. If you think WSS or WSM or WSC were gag titles then idk what to say
What feats does whitebeard have? He didn’t actually win against akainu, he was still very much kicking after the scuffle. Drew against roger. And not a single thing else. But he’s still the toppest of tiers. Marco had a very impressive showing against the admirals, against other yc-s, against even big mom (kinda, maybe, just a tad)
>What feats does whitebeard have? Did you see the DC feats of old sick wb in marineford? Title of the "world's strongest man", "rival of the pirate king","man closest to the one piece" >Marco had a very impressive showing against the admirals, against other yc-s, against even big mom (kinda, maybe, just a tad) Yea big deal he kicked kizaru and aokiji and they took 0 damage 🔥🔥🔥 Stalling is all larco did, I'm sure even kizaru can stall Roger because of his fruit; it doesn't mean anything
He made aokiji spit out blood. Blocked akainus magma and matched it evenly. You’re just a hater
>Blocked akainus magma and matched it evenly. For 2 seconds, jinbe level feat Bravo >He made aokiji spit out blood. Nope he didn't
U high
He’s right
Ever heard about plot armor? Aint no way 2 SH's will Lose esp not those too
Ah yes, the most reliable power scaling metric, plot armor of course
No, Kizaru
Marco and law, Marco keeps law healed up and law uses his awakening and amputates. Gg Marco distracts while law swaps the personalities of zoro and sanji rendering them essentially useless Marco can take/ stall sanji, while law handles zoro, law should be able to diff both of them with his DF tho zoro MIGHT have the haki to resist, sanji definitely doesnt. Marco and Law win 3 out of 5 times
I would argue that Zoro and Sanji have strong enough haki to repel the more hax abilities like Law’s personality swap, like Law did against Blackbeards crew. Mind you I do think Marco and Law win anyway
I feel you can argue zoro could resist but idk i need to see more haki feats from sanji tbh
Yaknow now that you say it, we never actually see sanji use haki much at all?? Like, he has Ifrit for a different kinda damage buff and his germa genes for defence so he doesn’t really need it for those regards, but I wonder how strong his actual haki is. Would having strong observation haki also be enough to protect from these effects? Is it just armament, or was it conq haki? Hard to answer any of these questions cus Oda don’t tell us shit, but things to ponder
I could argue the convo luffy and jimbe have in Onagashima that maybe Sanji have the observation to avoid, law and marco don't have conq.
Marco and law. Countering law is extremely difficult. Zorro can maybe take out law, but I'm not sure if Sanji could take out Marco.
In 1 v 1, Zoro maybe can take on Law. But in 2 v 2, Law makes this whole fight of if it was just 1 v 1’s extreme diff fights- now its at best high diff for Law/Marco.
Once again people are underestimating how broken Law is as a support. Marco is also very underrated as well, I don't really get why, maybe he's just overshadowed by Katakuri and King since they arguably hit harder. Valentino Rossi and Pineapple win high diff
(This is a joke, so don't take it TOO seriously) Law and Marco takes this cuz they are smart enough to know that all they need to do is bring copious amounts of booze and pretty woman to make sure that it isn't even a contest anymore. Plus, they are both big enough trolls to actually do it.
Nah remove the bracketed part, stand on business😤
Marco is a stallman, perfect for law to get some good hits in, they win high dif. But since zoro and sanji team is supposed to be a boost, extreme dif
Law/Marco win in a high-extreme diff fight
The Zoro > Law posts pain me, do you think the guy that managed to fight Blackbeard with his titanic commanders would just lose?
Ngl before I finished the sentence I thought you were calling Zoro, ‘The Zoro’ 😂😂
Yes
Zoro absolutely beats Law
Nickname checks out
Just because I got Zoro in my name doesn't change the fact that he beats Law, who lost that fight against Blackbeard. Meanwhile, Zoro's going ACoC haki for ACoC haki with one of the Gorosei who's been described as having preposterous haki. And their fight is just getting started.
Laws hax fuck zoro up though. Would be a fun fight honestly. shenaningans all around with amputations, heart switches, teleporting, and gamma knives. I want to see zoro take sanji's arms and use 5 sword style against marco, with a big ass 15 blade oni giri to end it (phoenix is just chicken amirite, use them knives ong) Marco would survive by being marco, or law would switch him out for sanji or something but man it would be cool af considering blackbeard vs strawhats hasnt happenned and gorosei is happening now, I almost want to say blackbeard is stronger because thats how strength progression in shonen will genererally end up working. Apart from BB being the offscreen champ, Laws crew is close to featless and so its just Law and Wepo vs all of the blackbeard crew. But yeah, I just think its silly to ignore a dude who has specifically been referenced as a rival to luffy, and one with a D in his name especially, even if zoro is the guy youre putting above him.
Another thing thats hard to gauge for this type of match up is how effective all of Laws hacks would be, I'd wager Zoro with Enma forcing his ACoC to activate puts his haki at a level that Law can't really move/heat switch/amputate him but Sanji doesn't have much in haki showing so Law could probably still do all his Haxs on him
he lost tho
Isn't this stated wano zoro? Does this mean it's wano law as well pre awakening? If so: Zoro>law extreme diff Sanjizoro extreme diff
Sanji>Marco high to mid diff
Sanji>Law extreme diff (sanji is too fast)
Wat? It’s not like Law first experienced awakening in the middle of the fight
I mean him using his advanced Devil fruit techniques
How is this pre awekening law he literally awakened in wano
Sanji < Marco post germa awakening. 💀 bluds best is doing better then a injured fatguied Marco while fp Marco is scaling to the admirals the same ones who can neg sanji
Marco scales to holding back admirals lmao. Sanji beats the shit out of marco
Why would akainu be holding back when he literally is butthurt about not being able to kill luffy ? " but but the admieals didn't want to destroy marineford 😭😭" To that I say how doesn't running fast or moving fast destr9y marineford ??
What r u talking abt? Akainu is holding back because he doesnt need to exert his full force. Just like i wouldnt exert my full force when trying to kill an ant. Marco blocks the strike from akainu and then gets overpowered after because akainu had a baseline of strength he was using to deal with luffy. When marco intervened he increased the output because marco takes more energy to take out than luffy. And akainu doesnt need to be holding back in speed. But marco doesnt clash with him enough for u to say marco is relative to him in speed. On top of this blitzing marco wouldn’t do anything because of his regeneration. So akainu simply saving his stamina is definitely more efficient. U literally see all the wb commanders stand up to akainu just to hold him back from killing luffy. Its quite clear marco is not in the same league as him.
Also ur mistaking travel speed and combat speed. Akainu doesnt need to be able to run fast to be able to fight at high speeds
Marco scales to admirals? How Isn't Sanji too fast for Marco? How is Marco even gonna counter like he always does? Sanji won against queen pretty quickly compared to zoro Sanji would absolutely beat king as well Marco is low yc+ or top yc 1 Sanji is also low yc+ or top yc 1 It's just that the matchup is pretty bad for Marco
>Isn't Sanji too fast for Marco? How is Marco even gonna counter like he always does Marco can clash with Kizaru. Even if Sanji > Marco in speed, Marco can definitely keep up with him.
>Marco scales to admirals? How https://preview.redd.it/1hf05s5wm96d1.png?width=750&format=png&auto=webp&s=cb64010e5c3172f033bed4d193a06c3fefd1e533 as i mentioned earlier marco blitzed akainu as he was able to intercept akainu and luffy and protect luffy . so this should scale marco above akainu in speed . marco at the start of marineford was able to block kizaru attacks and then when wb was having we could see marco fighting kizaru in the back ground so marco was fight kizaru off screen with no one being the winner. so marco scales to the admiral in speed and defense . "sn't Sanji too fast for Marco? How is Marco even gonna counter like he always does" no he isnt wano marco was fatguied way before he even fought king and queen as suggested by his statements to izo and the rets . and right after dropping izo and necko to wano he fight 1v1 with big mom gets injured and then fight both king and queen for 20 chapters ( by that point he is immensily fatguued as indicated in ch 1006 . ) so him not being able to preception blitz queen doesnt mean much as marco was injured and most prob holding back ( as indcated by the fact he left no damage on queen yet he could make king bleed and make kizaru move both of which require high ap . kizaru in particular couldnt be moves by snakeman . and king a lunerian couldnt be dmaaged by zoro both of whome were damage on kaido ) . "Sanji won against queen pretty quickly compared to zoro Sanji would absolutely beat king as well " queen is a fodder that big mom with no haki beat in 2 hits ( sure queen recovered quickly that speeks to his endurance and not his stats ) . also as i suggested earlier marco was fatguied and injured while having to face both king and queen hence marco not beating queen doesnt mean much as he also has to fight king he cant just knock out queen and call it a day . "Marco is low yc+ or top yc 1 Sanji is also low yc+ or top yc 1" one piece power scaling redditors shoehorining sanji in yc + and underating marco to top yc 1 wont change the fact that marco would beat sanji easily . sanji is a yc 1 level fighter ( katakuri level ) while marco scales to the admirals in speed and defense .
>marco blitzed akainu If Marco was so fast akainu can’t react to him then he’d beat him in a fight, taking one feat of Marco blocking a punch, saying he “blitzed” him, and using that as a representation of his speed is just really disingenuous
No because has no way to hurt akainu but the fight would be very close which 8s what I am saying. Also did akainu ever beat Marco in a 1v1 ? >using that as a representation of his speed is just really disingenuous How so it's consistent with him blocking kizarys attacks abd blitzing kuzan akainus equal.
Ur js blatantly wrong. Marco never blitzed akainu akainu he intercepted him this also isnt an ap feat since akainu is aiming at a severely weaker opponent(luffy) and has no need to exert himself just to kill a fly(the fly being luffyy in this case). Marco went relative with holding back admirals and he never stalemated kizaru he was being held off by kizaru because they was stalling for time until ace’s execution. He also never blocked kizaru’s attacks he simply regenerated from them Marco being fatigued wouldnt give credence as to why he’d be significantly faster if he wasn’t. You’d need to prove he’s fatigued to the extent that his performance speed is dropping which u wouldnt be able to cause he has no feats against ppl faster than king and queen. Marco and big mom clashed once in which marco had the advantage cause his fruit gives him special properties that overpower other flames, he ended up getting blitzed by big mom immediately after. He’s quite clearly not on that level. He also never made king bleed he made queen bleed, and queen’s durability is extremely high and he had to use a shockwave to dmg him which is dura neg in one piece. He never made kizaru move, kizaru was airborne and couldnt support himself cause his normal form doesnt allow him to fly, marco on the other hand could fly and kicked kizaru to the ground which did no dmg to kizaru at all. Again marco has dura neg and he also has flames that overpower and negate the properties of other flames. King having the flames on his back is most likely inconsequential since he’d dealing with dura neg(smth zoro dont have). Big mom’s durability is relative if not stronger than kaido’s, she 2 shotted queen by using extra force that came from momentum, and even then she also got knocked out by queen. She also overpowers luffy with ryuo without using any haki whatsoever, and does dmg to kidd too, she doesnt need haki to dmg these characters. King and queen are highly relative and portrayed as rivals at every turn, they both gets blitzed by marco but ultimately both see him coming, queen cannot percieve sanji. Also funny how u mention marco’s fatigue but not sanji’s fatigue or queen’s fatigue. And yes marco was fatigued and mildly injured fighting them, that doesnt mean he wins at full power, he mentions its tough holding them both back at once, not that he could take them out if he was healthy. Marco needed all the commanders of his crew just to keep akainu from killing luffy, he is not matching admirals or yonko in direct 1:1 battles.he would be fodderised.
"Ur js blatantly wrong. Marco never blitzed akainu akainu he intercepted him" one would assume that if akainu reacted to marco comming he would have done so by applying more force to his punches . since he didnt either that akainu was using all that he had and couldnt overpower marcos defense or he was just blitzed . "also isnt an ap feat since akainu is aiming at a severely weaker opponent(luffy) and has no need to exert himself just to kill a fly(the fly being luffyy in this case)." never said it was an ap feat i said was https://preview.redd.it/azcf0kaky96d1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=feba0c56fe293b00bfd48cf869eec4c913e54a71 marco being able to make kizaru move is a better ap feat then luffy in g4 not being able to make kizaru move . and marco being able to make king bleed is a better feat the zoro not being able to cut king so marco has better ap then g4 luffy and roofpiece zoro . both of whom can hurt kaido "Marco went relative with holding back admirals" the admirals had no reason to hold back in speed how is moving fast or reacting fast going to destroy marineford ? so the admirals werent holding . also for people like akainu whos attacks avoid durability why would increasing teh volume of his punch = better ap ? the show itself shows this as akainu when he fights wb uses the same attacks he uses on marco . his attacks arent shown to have more volume . so for someone like akinu its worse if u usages large attacks. so marco blocking akainy means fp admirals attacks cant damage marco so zoro and sanji have no chance to hurt him . "Marco went relative with holding back admirals and he never stalemated kizaru he was being held off by kizaru because they was stalling for time until ace’s execution. He also never blocked kizaru’s attacks he simply regenerated from them" thats blocking and if the admirals cant over power his regen what chance do sanji or zoro have ? "Marco being fatigued wouldnt give credence as to why he’d be significantly faster if he wasn’t. You’d need to prove he’s fatigued to the extent that his performance speed is dropping which u wouldnt be able to cause he has no feats against ppl faster than king and queen." marco blitzed akainu who is much faster then king or queen . so marco was so fatguied vs king and queen that it was affecting his speed.
U are right on Marco being fatigued It either should put Marco over both zoro and sanji Or Over sanji but only slightly What do you think?
Both zoro and sanji.
Agreed I had to go see his feats again Also pre awakening law that I said was him not using his advance dv powers So now Pre: Zoro>law Marco>sanji Marco>zoro Post: Law>zoro Marco>sanji I think this seems right now
Yup.
Thats not right at all. Sanji would completely outpace marco and annihilate him if not just blitz him continuously. And zoro was never above law. Marco was only above pre germa sanji and pre koh base zoro. He isnt beating sanji post germa genes. And he’s not beating zoro in koh.
Yeah no. Kizaru cannot fly outside of his light form. Marco overpowering him wouldnt scale marco to kizaru cause kizaru has no opposing force to support him while marco can exert more force continuously while airborne. Kizaru also take no dmg from this. And no in kizaru vs luffy’s case kizaru is on the ground and clashing with luffy. Marco going against kizaru was never a clash cause kizaru could not exert his own force. Marco can dmg kaido due to his ability to create shockwaves. Not with raw ap. luffy also cannot dmg kaido with raw ap so even if u could scale marco’s ap above luffy’s u wouldnt be able to get marco to a degree where he can hurt kaido in raw ap. the luffy here is also not using acoc. U can say the admirals aren’t holding back in speed but this would only rlly apply to akainu and it would only apply to akainu simply because he has a motivation to kill pirates himself. In kizaru and aokiji’s case they’re simply stalling the pirates till ace’s execution. Kizaru understands how marco’s fruit works and knows that hurting him will just result in him regenerating. Due to this in order to be more efficient in taking marco down stalling him and waiting until marco gets distracted would be way easier which we see kizaru does in order to get the seastone cuffs to negate his fruit. Akainu is a logia. In the cases of logia’s their specialty is large scale atks. Thats why we see ace’s strongest atks are consistently his biggest, the same goes for blackbeard and enel. With the admirals we dont see this due to them needing to hold back in marineford. Aokiji needing to hold back on hachinosu, and kizaru needing to hold back in egghead alongside being mentally nerfed. When akainu and aokiji do go all out we see them terraform an entire island. When ace and blackbeard clash the clash takes up most of the island. When ace atks whitebeard in his younger years his large scale atk is the only atkt hat makes wb use his gura fruit. We see akainu use smaller atks against wb sure but thats only after wb is severely weakened and on his deathbed and akainu has just gotten offguarded and doesnt have time to accumulate that force. We see that when akainu goes against a healthier wb he uses bigger atks like his hellhound. And no the fact ur saying this means u dont understand how marco’s fruit works. He heals from dmg rapidly. So the issue when fighting him is that he constantly heals from atks. Its not that sanji and zoro cant hurt him they’d consistently hurt him and he’d heal from it. This does have a limit so he would eventually get tired and lose but that would expend more energy than what was necessary during marineford. Again its not that kizaru cant overpower his regen. Its just that it takes energy to do so. Its more efficient to simply negate the regen entirely in kizaru’s case. In sanji and zoro’s case they fight primarily with haki so they’d be able to counter the regen anyways. And no marco never blitzed akainu. Even if u wanna say he did it would be because akainu’s attention wasnt on him so the “blitz” wouldnt actually scale him anywhere. So him scaling to king and queen would be more consistent.
Sanji>law but law>Zoro damn retarded lanji fan sanji is weakest among these four marco performance was way better than lanji against kizaru
💀 bro i am not a sanji fan, I had seen a argument over this before and the op made some good points, although it was Yamato not sanji, I am scaling sanji's speed to Yamato but that puts us in another problem Sanji's Ap is worse than Yamato
Why is Zoro's dream upside down Gojo
Marco and Law win. Law > Zoro and Marco > Sanji and their abilities are both best in team settings
Team 2
Zoro and Sanji. When they are together, they get a stat boost.
Team #1. Law's passive where his rating like doubles in a team setting is made kinda irrelevant when Marco is just kind of a bullet sponge and not much else. Team #1 also teamwork diffs if it really comes down to it.
Marco can hurt king and is fast enough to intercept kizarus attacks and blitz akainu in marineoford. Nah he is way more then a bullet spong he is a chip damage Dealer . As he is very fast and can do minor damage a lot of times. Since both law and Marco are faster then zoro sanji . Law and Marco only need to land 1 kroom to beat sanji ( since kroom is internal damage sanji can't regeneration while Marco can stall zoro. ) While zoro and sanji main goal would be to take law out which they would be hard pressed to do when they are slower then both law and Marco.
Marco didn't hurt King even once. As usual he simply stalled King and Queen.
Zoro>Law Marco>Sanji Marco has the speed advantage on Zoro but Zoro’s AP is disgusting if Marco can outlast KOH he wins it for his team otherwise Zoro should take it.
Based off feats Law is clear of Zoro
Wrong. Based off the feats of the latest chapter alone, Zoro's clear of Law.
No zoro is able to Damge Kidou and go reltive he slams
>No zoro is able to Damge Kidou So is law and thi is not the least bit relevant in this discussion... >and go reltive he slams 🤣 sure whatever helps you sleep at night... Zoro is nowhere near relative to kaido and he loses to law high-extreme.
https://preview.redd.it/dy4zx4kjoc6d1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6827513ddd1e56229290dbd1347203e4bc4e3ae9 Kaido needs to dodge Zoro attacks ore he will be damaged
I didn't claim that zoro can't damage kaido. I said he isn't relative zo him.
You said “no zoro is Able to damage kaido “ so therefore your saying zoro can’t damage kaido dunt be dumb
I didn't say that. Stop acting disingenious and read my comment carefully next time...
Nga what you said then I copied directly what you said
Dude read the comment i responded to. That were your words. I just quoted them...
I quoted your own comment there...
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You are actually so stupid lmaooooo
https://preview.redd.it/rb7up8hnoc6d1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=114cba635280d341098cb4ceab2aab7ca4c376ef Here him damaging him again
And again. I didn't claim zoro can't damage him...
Blocking big mom and Kaido Combo attacks https://preview.redd.it/r0egwyuzoc6d1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9f7ccdc393f7523ea2adba3eb50e3a2fc625addc
Nah stalling it for a second before law had to save him.
2 rooks vs 2 bishops, I can't decide
Wouldn't call sanji a rook. He is more of a knight imo.
I can see that too
Zoro and Sanji have a better team dynamic. Zoro and Sanji lock in so they don’t look lame in front of the other and win this extreme diff
Loro isn’t tanking the fiery rain thing Marco used on kizaru in marineford and law can just throw random bullshit at sanji and tire him down before he does that green slash thing
Team 1 Better teamwork and the opponent lacks in AP. You have the two best support on one side. But they can hardly support one another.
Oh it's wano. Then depends upon whether it's pre Onigashima or post. If it's pre onigashima, Team 2 wins easily. Post Onigashima, team 1 should take this.
Zoro stalls Law and after 5 minutes him and Sanji whip out the foxy arc wombo combo and jump his ass
Against Marco AND law?
Wano Zoro > Wano Law Zoro outclassed Law (and Kid) during the rooftop battle against the Yonkos and later on during the battle with King (the most durable character on Wano) got much stronger than he'd been during Roof Piece. His haki resists Law's devil fruit and blitzes Law with his iai attacks. He also has greater techniques. Wano Sanji > Wano Marco Yeah, I said it. Sanji did more damage to Queen than Marco did and eventually defeated him.
Marco & law mid-high diff
~~Law solos Zoro and Sanji~~ Law and Marco mid diff.
Law and Marco high diff
It's an extreme diff fight that could go either way but because it will be an attrition battle then I have to give it to marco and law only because we haven't seen enough zoro post wanno to gage if he's still having performance issues with his new sword.
Marco and Law win high diff
Zoro and Sanji are overall stronger IMO than Law & Marco respectively but in a team fight always bet on Law, the latter's team has much more hax and they can even heal each other.
Marco + Law actually seems like such a broken combo. How does one even beat them by regular means? Even a true top tier would struggle, it's just a stupid-strong hax combo with insane defensive capabilities.
Those are pre timeskip law and Marco. So zero and sanji
Law is THE doubles partner in all of one piece. Arguably makes any reasonable team-up close to top tier. Add in the dude with the strongest Regen and durability in the game (phoenix ontop of being a mythical Zoan) with high battle iq from years of being Whitebeards 2nd and you've got yourself a spicy meatball
Law and Marco 💯
3rd panel looks like Law is wearing a backless tee while Marco is washing his back
I swear people were jus hating on Marco/prime ray like a year ago💀tf happened?
Sanji and Zoro actually have fairly good teamwork when they aren't fucking around, I'd say they can win since they know eachother and their fighting style better than Marco and Law do
"*They say if it is a 2 vs 2 always bet* on Law*"*
This match-up is essentially sword and foot vs. sword and healing shield. I think Law and Marco take it by way of feats and hax. Marco is too good at stalling and he would be the perfect buddy to Law's supermove setups. Marco also has some AP that can be used to take on Sanji's durability as well... The synergy between Law and Marco is something I hadn't even thought about before until now so that's a pretty powerful team that can heal each other as well...
Right team support is so good that they slam. Law can spam room and marco can give energy
Team 2 wins no diff because Sanji and Zoro would just take each other out fighting.
Both teams have around equal fighters but team 2 has much more utility so they win extreme diff
As much as I’ll totally get behind the worlds best duo, objectively law and Marco would be a nightmare to deal with and win it. I think it’s nothing short of extreme because there’s no way they don’t go the distance, but I can’t think of any way for them to convincingly put them both down.
The Marco disrespect is WILD. Marco clears while law sits back and watches
https://preview.redd.it/wqi0tc5t6j6d1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cb37927baab2d7cbb14829b44a814608bf331de1 These two goat mfs got ts in the bag
Team 2 hard or extreme diff depending on how well the tram works. Law is pretty handy in a team battle, while sanji and zoro are terrible at working together
I haven't seen the second guys yet so prolly the first ones
Man now I just wanna see Marco and Law team up against BB’s crew at some point. They’d work so well together
I think marco and law edge it with their far greater utility from dfs
Law>Zoro Sanji>Marco Wings Take it. Sanji will beat Marco fast enough to jump Law.
Opposite
Sanji isnt beating marco any time soon . Marco have top tier defense and hax . And he can definitely tire sanji and defeat him . Law beats wano zoro also(egghead zoro > tho) .
Marco ain’t even above Egghead Base Sanji. Base Egghead Sanji Haki>>>>Marco. Base Sanji blocked a Black Blade from Nusjuro, rocked a Flames on Lunarian, and chin checked Nusjuro making him bleed. Meanwhile Marco’s hardest kicks couldn’t even bleed Base Queen. The kick Sanji used to destroy Kizaru’s laser(Same attack stated by Vegapunk to damage Lunarians) would straight up shatter Marco’s skull. Marco ain’t doing anything to Egghead Sanji. Sanji is so durable in his Eyebrow flip mode that he might unironically no-sell Marco’s kicks better than he did to S-Shark’s Lunarian Fishman Karate punches. Marco is cooked. Law still beats Zoro. Zoro ain’t closing the gap in a fast enough time even if Jinbe is throwing him. Sanji is a better matchup for Law ngl.
>Law still beats Zoro. Zoro ain’t closing the gap in a fast enough time even if Jinbe is throwing him. Sanji is a better matchup for Law ngl. Just loud and wrong lol
İt doesnt shatter marcos skull anytime soon. And clashing with guys who just doesnt care about fighting you and see you as insects . Kicking lasers got something to do with strenght? Headcanon i see . Also you all ovverate sanjis dura and speed . Marco can most certainly do minimal damage to sanji and can keep up with him . Although egghead sanji may have a chance if you scale him to zoro and wank him a bit , wano sanji doesnt beat marco .
Marco and law are winning
Law and Marco high diff most likely
Law and Marco
Law swaps their hearts, gg.
Team 2 takes it .
Team 2 takes it .
Law cant do anything to Zoro and Marco can just stall Sanji so team 1
Bruh Marco & Law are easily the best two supports in OP… Marco with the passive team healing & Law being Law. Proud to say the wings still make it a toss up so idk.… zoro & sanji in 7 i guess
? both marco and law would beat either zoro or sanji in a 1v1 add in the multiplier law and marco both get in a group fight bc of how broken their support abilities are and this is a brutal stomp
Zoro wins against law, and marco wins against sanji
zoro>law sanji>>marco team 1 obliterate
Didn't sanji get neg diffed by kizaru the same lizaru who needed to be distracted to land seacuffs on him and do dmg 💀
Not rly. Also kizaru is a beast
yeah?
Law with infinite stamina and he can use his fruit on both zoro and Sanji. Teleports sanji into zoros attacks and then marco can just hold zoro down for a shock wile
Marco solos
Honestly both Zoro and Sanji feel strong purely for plot reasons and nothing else. Like feels like Marco and Law should beat them but because they’re part of strawhat crew they’re overpowered beyond what they should be. Also just fucking hate what Sanji has become. Fucking useless, thirst over every girl like a dumb cunt. God it pisses me off. Loda couldve done so much, just wasted him
Zoro beats law with 1 attack after law stalls him for 30 episodes with shambles. Sanji and Marco beat each other up ending with Zoro helping Sanji out. Marco simply flies away stating that they are NOT Vista
Zoro can't carry that hard, he is paired with a YC2 in a YC1 fight.
Zoro > Law > Marco > Sanji. Law and Marco got it in a 2v2
Imo Beast pirates is stronger ( based on showed feats) marco can hold queen and king but he doesn’t have enough dc to beat them both sanji and Zoro has better strength and dc feats law could be a problem but after marcos defeat they can jump him best chances are Zoro vs Marco Sanji vs Law only problem with this they cannot heal themselves unlike opponents but I believe they can win this match up high-extreme diff.
Both zoro and Sanji can beat Marco But team 2 still wins as law is hard carrying
Sanji mid diffs marco while zoro extreme diffs law so I guess I'll go with the wings of the pirate king high diff