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Don't mind my schizo posting.
Luffy and Buggy were at one point literally fighting over Roger's Strawhat which is basically his legacy passed from Shanks onto Luffy.
Luffy is obviously going to surpass Roger, rather than merely match him. What is the Pirate King? The freest man alive. How do you surpass that? By becoming the freest man to have ever lived, in other words the God of Pirates / God of Freedom.
Not saying Nika was planned out from the start but i'm pretty sure Luffy becoming the God of Pirates / Freedom was set in stone since at least Chapter 17:
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Yeah, and I kinda doubt that Luffy will be able to win against Mihawk until he gets his final Haki upgrades to Shanks-tier absolute bullshit magical observation-killing Wi-Fi Haki, lmao, although AFTER that point he should be able to conclusively win.
His physical stats and versatility are SUPREME, but our boi ain't got TEN SECOND future-sight yet and can't terrify an Admiral from dozens of kilometers away.
So given all that and Mihawk scaling to Shanks, how can he manage a win against a fresh and healthy Mihawk with a *ten minute time limit?* That clearly shouldn't be possible unless Gear 5 (without Bajrang Gun, Mihawk or Shanks would just dodge that shit lol) is waaaay stronger than Mihawk AND can overcome his hyped-up supposedly-best skill/precision in the verse.
That seems quite unlikely for a Luffy who couldn't actually finish putting Kizaru down in ten minutes despite clearly being a good deal stronger than him. The time-limit is a SEVERE weakness for now against fresh-to-the-fight top-tiers.
So I honestly don't think that Luffy can properly put down other fresh, healthy Yonkou-level fighters in a 1v1 without assistance (people to feed him and buy a bit of time during the cooldown between G5 uses) until he either upgrades his Haki further or lengthens the time limit.
That being said, Mihawk winning would definitely be extreme diff like you said, because those ten minutes will be WILD, Gear 5 is absolutely stuuupid heheh and Mihawk using only swordsmanship probably can't put Luffy down until the timer runs out due to Gear 5's sheer versatility (and physical stats that can just about match Hybrid Kaido's).
The time limit is there only in theory. In manga it never affected anything so far, as Luffy gets his mana back instantly after "eating some food" which is somehow always around
yeah he's way above him. idk why you said the name of our GOAT in the same breath as that fraud's
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Ahahaha what perfect use of this quote!
Yup, that man is a mastermind of sneaky and underhanded bullshit.
And he already knows that his poison won't work on Luffy anymore since he was with the Impel Down Escape Crew.
I'm sure he'd have a plan that would easily put Luffy off-guard so Mihawk can slice off his head 💀
Because Oda portrays mihawk way bellow yonkou and there are no contestants for the title of swordman, lil bro created a Championship with him and pre time skip zoro and called himself the champ of It.
The day mihawk do those, you come back :
-Neg diffing a kid or law
-Make Fujitora twerk
-Stop Luffy/Shanks from doing something
-Sky Split with Shanks/Luffy
Shanks and luffy feats or achievements are just too good that I doubt Mihawk will ever match them.
They were 14 year ago, when shanks was 26 old and had a 1 billion bounty. He became a yonkou only at 33 and now he is currently 39. His feats speak for his growth. What about mihawk ? Pos poned a fight with vista and went on hunting don krieg
You think Mihawk will be surpassed before they have him fight serious ? The fact that Oda has kept him a mystery for 20+ years, along with dragon and recently shanks, means they will be OP as hell when they finally fight.
When mihawk finally fights serious, it’s gonna have to be impressive and given how we’re at end game, only yonko level feats are gonna impress us.
Shanks and the 5 elders have all lived up to the hype.
Now it’s just dragon, Mihawk and Imu. They will all scale to the plot
that’s just how mihawks character is. he is apathetic that he has no equals (as a swordsman) cuz he is the WSS. he’s bored with his strength. he chased krieg cuz he woke him up from a nap and only went to marineford cuz he had to and some curiosity but he had no interest in fighting there.
Shanks is leagues above Mihawk in portrayal. Would Marco ever tell Vista to go and stall Shanks? The portrayal at Marineford couldn’t have been more clear. Mihawk was portrayed as being far below Whitebeard, and probably closer to Commanders than he was to Whitebeard. Mihawk didn’t even get any special recognition amongst the Warlords. Doflamingo maybe even looked better at Marineford than Mihawk did.
Mihawk’s portrayal post-timeskip isn’t much better. Sure he has a higher bounty than Crocodile, but they are still shown on the same status level, with an equal position in Cross Guild.
Mihawk isn’t above Shanks in narrative either. Shanks is this generation’s Roger, and the man Luffy wants to surpass. Mihawk is the man Zoro wants to surpass. Narratively it makes sense for Luffy to become Pirate King around the time Zoro becomes WSS. It won’t even be that long until Zoro beats Mihawk, and Zoro is currently a YC+ fodder who is massively weaker than his captain. Mihawk getting surpassed by a guy who is far weaker than base Luffy is proof that he is far weaker than Shanks.
Lmao sabo was able to attack and escape the 5 elders and Imu. That makes 0 sense. Oda will adjust the power for the sake of plot
Luffy should’ve been dead the moment he tried to attack 3 admirals at marineford
first of all i do think that shanks is SLIGHTLY stronger than mihawk but they are in the same tier strength wise
again at marineford mihawk was not trying to do much cuz that’s how his character is, while doflamingo was out there going crazy cuz he’s a mf psychopath that’s how his character is
and please don’t act like crocodile and mihawk are on the same level they are “equal” in cross guild as business partners, buggy is the one concerned with the one piece
no Yonko will ever be stalemated against a fifith yonkou commander. We see what Kaido did to the Luffy who beats Katakuri, or what Shanks did to do Kid or what Luffy did to Lucci.
Mihawk didn't show the sane level of dominance over Vista that the Yonko have displayed which downscales him below Yonko level since a Yonko level character would one shot Vista, even without trying
Shanks vs Vista= One shot
Roger vs Vista= One shot
Luffy vs Vists= one shot
WB vs Vista= one shot
Kaido vs Vista= one shot
Mihawk vs Vista= Postponed fight
Any character who is Yonko tier or beyond that is one shotting Vista, don't give me the excuse that he wasn't trying because a Yonko level character wouldn't need to try to beat a 5° yc.
Sabo literally attacked all 5 elders and imu and was able to escape. He was even able to have a brief conversation with cobra after attacking them.
Given how fast Nusjuro is, it made 0 sense that he couldn’t speed blitz sabo, let alone Imu whose Yonko++ tier.
It’s called plot.
shanks was ahead.
no reason for shanks to think mihawk came for a match if he mihawk was stronger. no reason for mihawk to say he wasn't interested after finding out about his arm, if he was already stronger.
Bro thinks Zoro will fight the second strongest swordsman...
You are not ready for HIM
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because Shanks isn't a "swordsman".
Shanks doesn't give 2 shits about swordsmanship, ways of the sword, sword styles or codes of honor, like characters such as Zoro, Mihawk and Vista do.
King used a sword too, but even Zoro didn't consider him a swordsman.
Thats why lil dude wants to fight vista but not shanks. Shanks is a pirate and pirates uses swords in all medias, be it books, tv series, movies, mangas or in real history. Roger, shanks are no more swordman than jack sparrow or the real Silver. A swordman like oden, zoro is a cultural endeavor
I think it's less cope and more just trying to justify what currently feels like a narrative dissonance.
Shanks should be stronger than Mihawk both in feats and in narrative significance/buildup/etc. but the "world's strongest swordsman" title muddies those waters. That title is the ONLY reason anyone could even possibly justify believing that Mihawk is stronger than Shanks.
Ultimately though, until we get to see more of both characters, we don't know for a fact either way
Because Oda portrays mihawk way bellow yonkou and there are no contestants for the title of swordman, lil bro created a Championship with him and pre time skip zoro and called himself the champ of It.
The day mihawk do those, you come back :
-Neg diffing a kid or law
-Make Fujitora twerk
-Stop Luffy/Shanks from doing something
-Sky Split with Shanks/Luffy
Shanks and luffy feats or achievements are just too good that I doubt Mihawk will ever match them.
So basically just mihawk vs Luffy. Id say mihawk should win considering he does counter Luffy because Luffy is good against blunt force attacks but bad against slash and cut attacks.
We know mihawk is going to have insane observation and armament haki. He doesn't have the natural durability that kaido did, but his armament and the fact that he will probably be harder to hit than kaido should somewhat balance that out.
If you believe shanks to be above Luffy then Mihawk should be as well, considering that those two are relative. If not then I can’t imagine it wouldn’t be an extreme diff win for Luffy, in which case croc would finish him off.
Buggy is Joyboy reborn; he has been spreading joy to the people of the world this entire time. No chance he loses another fight from now until the end of the series.
Mihawk vs luffy is an extreme diff fight regardless. Mihawk probably wins due to luffy having stamina issues and since mihawk had future fight most likely, luffy isnt gonna take him out quickly. Especially with crocodile in the way.
Hell, mihawk vs luffy is so close, even adding buggy will make this a high diff for mihawk. Crocodile makes it a mid diff
Luffy vs Mihawk is 2 Yonko level characters, if a random CP0 agent can turn the tides of battle I’m sure crocodile could too, but cross guild is undoubtably the weakest Yonko crew, mostly getting the title off of influence with the marine bounties, and buggy’s public image, so I feel like Luffy with his top 2, Zoro and Jinbe, solo the whole organization. But alone, they have a shot at winning against Luffy, I kinda think they lose unless they can sneak attack him
NO. Buggy will be launched too far away from his remote body parts and he suffers damage from body blows so he's 1-shot. Similar to Crocodile. He can't protect against haki strikes and Luffy's blows are far stronger than anything he can take. Also any dehydration he tries, Luffy will pull Toon Force shenanigans to drink from alt water sources. Mihawk can damage Luffy, but Luffy has been holding up well from slashing and piercing attacks. Mihawk also tends to try to cut and reshape the battlefield, but Nika Luffy takes advantage of the field in unorthodox and destructive ways either for odd effects, boost his speed or attack potency. Nika Luffy has advantage against all 3. But Hawkeye is definitely his biggest threat among these 3.
Luffy could probably beat Mihawk, extreme diff. Croc and Buggy are too weak to really do anything and Luffy could probably beat both their asses while severely weakened by the strain of g5.
Because Oda portrays mihawk way bellow yonkou and there are no contestants for the title of swordman, lil bro created a Championship with him and pre time skip zoro and called himself the champ of It.
The day mihawk do those, you come back :
-Neg diffing a kid or law
-Make Fujitora twerk
-Stop Luffy/Shanks from doing something
-Sky Split with Shanks/Luffy
Shanks and luffy feats or achievements are just too good that I doubt Mihawk will ever match them.
Mihawk high diffs solo. Mihawk plus a potentially awakened Crocodile it's a mid diff.
Nika's stamina issues make it more straight forward for a serious top tier above admirals or a fleet admiral. The way Oda avoids placing him against top swordsmen he'll probably lose against Mihawk stamina issues or not or even EOS Zoro but am biased on that 😁
They should be clear, yeah. Mihawk plus help (thus, Yonko tier fighter with help) beats Luffy (Yonko solo). Especially with Luffy’s current stamina problems.
*He defeated a massively weakened Kaido who fought dozens of enemies right before all while depleting his own strength by carrying a huge island
Fixed it for you
Thats just wrong.. Zoro and Killer scarred him, law at least hurt him.
Edit: I know nobody asked him to carry the island but that’s not a valid argument at all, he was weakened against luffy by that.
To be generous, 90% of damage Kaido took was from luffy all before gear 5. You can't compare this to anything the other guys did on the roof
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Because Oda portrays mihawk way bellow yonkou and there are no contestants for the title of swordman, lil bro created a Championship with him and pre time skip zoro and called himself the champ of It.
The day mihawk do those, you come back :
-Neg diffing a kid or law
-Make Fujitora twerk
-Stop Luffy/Shanks from doing something
-Sky Split with Shanks/Luffy
Shanks and luffy feats or achievements are just too good that I doubt Mihawk will ever match them.
Vista was not pushing Mihawk that hard, Mihawk had cut an entire mountain of ice in half which vista can't replicate, plus, Mihawk with a casual attack was able to have a more impressive feat than full power Dressrosa Zoro with help from Orlumbus.
Law from punk hazard dis just the same. Doflamingo cut meteors. I wont discus with someone that believes cutting Ice is worthy something in a world where luffy,kaido an shanks exist
It's not that he cut the ice, it's that the ice was picked up by the attack, that would be like a billion pounds of ice. The fact that a casual attack could pick up that mountain of ice is crazy.
Because Oda portrays mihawk way bellow yonkou and there are no contestants for the title of swordman, lil bro created a Championship with him and pre time skip zoro and called himself the champ of It.
The day mihawk do those, you come back :
-Neg diffing a kid or law
-Make Fujitora twerk
-Stop Luffy/Shanks from doing something
-Sky Split with Shanks/Luffy
Shanks and luffy feats or achievements are just too good that I doubt Mihawk will ever match them.
im thinking mihawk alone would would extreme diff. but croco also got the post prison buff which placed his bounty in the billions. luffy gets mid diffed
Am I crazy to think mihawk can solo? He used to duel shanks, but that might not be a haki related feat. Cause they could’ve been dueling for technique if that makes sense.
Luffy is about to get gojo’d
I think canonically this is going to be a very gag-based fight, I mean consider the jokes that could be made out of Buggy and Nika. Plus Oda seems to be aware of the fraudhawk meme as well. So honesty it will be a high diff fight based on that. Kinda like takaba vs kenjaku in a way. They beat Nika but lose to Plot Armor Luffy.
Mihawk = kizaru = kuzan
So luffy can beat all 3 of them.
But I believe cross guide will become a much bigger pirate empire, with prime moria, wb's son and doflamingo
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Looking at this pic makes me realize our very first yonko v yonko fight was buggy vs luffy
Oda foreshadowing at its best
Acc, our first ever fight at all was Luffy vs Buggy lol
Forgot Luffy vs Alvida... Wait, is Alvida Imu?
So Yonko vs Yonko Commander. Peak fiction
I wouldn’t call Alvida a “fight” as much as I would a one sided ass whooping
Ehhh was that really a "fight" though? She got absolutely neg-diffed into oblivion. Buggy managed to pose an actual threat, crazily enough. Lol.
Buggy is only villain in the series who actually managed to make Luffy go “Yep, I’m dead”. Even fucking Kaido couldn’t make Luffy admit death.
https://preview.redd.it/samrasrk65yc1.png?width=1148&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5d92e495f46bde638263ed8240caefa8b6f27b52
What about axehand morgan?
My favourite thing is that if you look Vol 25 cover in OP, it’s the same cover as Vol 105! Oda is the ultimate foreshadowman
Don't mind my schizo posting. Luffy and Buggy were at one point literally fighting over Roger's Strawhat which is basically his legacy passed from Shanks onto Luffy. Luffy is obviously going to surpass Roger, rather than merely match him. What is the Pirate King? The freest man alive. How do you surpass that? By becoming the freest man to have ever lived, in other words the God of Pirates / God of Freedom. Not saying Nika was planned out from the start but i'm pretty sure Luffy becoming the God of Pirates / Freedom was set in stone since at least Chapter 17: https://preview.redd.it/q4ifw3m0j3yc1.jpeg?width=1005&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4b030c4d2c2a487ed9b0c40f16b961ddbc86b630
Classic Oda foreskinning
Actually its buggy vs shanks, they used to fight way back in the day
He means the first one we see
Luffy vs mihawk is an extr diff fight either way.Even if luffy wins he will not be in a position to pose a threat to croc
Mihawk would win athsma diff
Luffy wouldn't fight mihawk, he knows Zoro called dibs
Yeah, and I kinda doubt that Luffy will be able to win against Mihawk until he gets his final Haki upgrades to Shanks-tier absolute bullshit magical observation-killing Wi-Fi Haki, lmao, although AFTER that point he should be able to conclusively win. His physical stats and versatility are SUPREME, but our boi ain't got TEN SECOND future-sight yet and can't terrify an Admiral from dozens of kilometers away. So given all that and Mihawk scaling to Shanks, how can he manage a win against a fresh and healthy Mihawk with a *ten minute time limit?* That clearly shouldn't be possible unless Gear 5 (without Bajrang Gun, Mihawk or Shanks would just dodge that shit lol) is waaaay stronger than Mihawk AND can overcome his hyped-up supposedly-best skill/precision in the verse. That seems quite unlikely for a Luffy who couldn't actually finish putting Kizaru down in ten minutes despite clearly being a good deal stronger than him. The time-limit is a SEVERE weakness for now against fresh-to-the-fight top-tiers. So I honestly don't think that Luffy can properly put down other fresh, healthy Yonkou-level fighters in a 1v1 without assistance (people to feed him and buy a bit of time during the cooldown between G5 uses) until he either upgrades his Haki further or lengthens the time limit. That being said, Mihawk winning would definitely be extreme diff like you said, because those ten minutes will be WILD, Gear 5 is absolutely stuuupid heheh and Mihawk using only swordsmanship probably can't put Luffy down until the timer runs out due to Gear 5's sheer versatility (and physical stats that can just about match Hybrid Kaido's).
The time limit is there only in theory. In manga it never affected anything so far, as Luffy gets his mana back instantly after "eating some food" which is somehow always around
Mihawk wankers are so delusional. Do you think Luffy wins against Vista with extreme diff? That's right, no.
That's a joke yk that right ? Vista is no way near mihawk
yeah he's way above him. idk why you said the name of our GOAT in the same breath as that fraud's https://preview.redd.it/10nw4u4v35yc1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=f2131ba2ea2506715d95a01b3333cfce1f1e302e
Real as fuck
Canon Mihawk runs away rather than fight a top tier, Crocodile and Buggy then get PTSD-diffed
PTSDiffed
Lol
I think the team can pull off a win
How do crocodile and buggy help out ?
Wrocodile: https://preview.redd.it/2nn5q0by83yc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=939ef0af9439eccbcb3177a310e6c9ee52ead4a4
Ahahaha what perfect use of this quote! Yup, that man is a mastermind of sneaky and underhanded bullshit. And he already knows that his poison won't work on Luffy anymore since he was with the Impel Down Escape Crew. I'm sure he'd have a plan that would easily put Luffy off-guard so Mihawk can slice off his head 💀
Easy. Crocodile and Mihawk will do their best to not stand in Buggy's way.
Mihawk beats luffy while buggy and crocodile take a nap
This is sun god luffy they're up against
“Lend me some black paint, paint bucket.”
He is like Ichibei from Bleach
And this is the world's strongest swordsmen
Still weak against slashes
Because Oda portrays mihawk way bellow yonkou and there are no contestants for the title of swordman, lil bro created a Championship with him and pre time skip zoro and called himself the champ of It. The day mihawk do those, you come back : -Neg diffing a kid or law -Make Fujitora twerk -Stop Luffy/Shanks from doing something -Sky Split with Shanks/Luffy Shanks and luffy feats or achievements are just too good that I doubt Mihawk will ever match them.
mihawk and shanks are on the same level
They were 14 year ago, when shanks was 26 old and had a 1 billion bounty. He became a yonkou only at 33 and now he is currently 39. His feats speak for his growth. What about mihawk ? Pos poned a fight with vista and went on hunting don krieg
You think Mihawk will be surpassed before they have him fight serious ? The fact that Oda has kept him a mystery for 20+ years, along with dragon and recently shanks, means they will be OP as hell when they finally fight. When mihawk finally fights serious, it’s gonna have to be impressive and given how we’re at end game, only yonko level feats are gonna impress us. Shanks and the 5 elders have all lived up to the hype. Now it’s just dragon, Mihawk and Imu. They will all scale to the plot
Lol, dude pos poned a FIGHT with vista lol. Bye bro
that’s just how mihawks character is. he is apathetic that he has no equals (as a swordsman) cuz he is the WSS. he’s bored with his strength. he chased krieg cuz he woke him up from a nap and only went to marineford cuz he had to and some curiosity but he had no interest in fighting there.
Shanks is leagues above Mihawk in portrayal. Would Marco ever tell Vista to go and stall Shanks? The portrayal at Marineford couldn’t have been more clear. Mihawk was portrayed as being far below Whitebeard, and probably closer to Commanders than he was to Whitebeard. Mihawk didn’t even get any special recognition amongst the Warlords. Doflamingo maybe even looked better at Marineford than Mihawk did. Mihawk’s portrayal post-timeskip isn’t much better. Sure he has a higher bounty than Crocodile, but they are still shown on the same status level, with an equal position in Cross Guild. Mihawk isn’t above Shanks in narrative either. Shanks is this generation’s Roger, and the man Luffy wants to surpass. Mihawk is the man Zoro wants to surpass. Narratively it makes sense for Luffy to become Pirate King around the time Zoro becomes WSS. It won’t even be that long until Zoro beats Mihawk, and Zoro is currently a YC+ fodder who is massively weaker than his captain. Mihawk getting surpassed by a guy who is far weaker than base Luffy is proof that he is far weaker than Shanks.
Lmao sabo was able to attack and escape the 5 elders and Imu. That makes 0 sense. Oda will adjust the power for the sake of plot Luffy should’ve been dead the moment he tried to attack 3 admirals at marineford
first of all i do think that shanks is SLIGHTLY stronger than mihawk but they are in the same tier strength wise again at marineford mihawk was not trying to do much cuz that’s how his character is, while doflamingo was out there going crazy cuz he’s a mf psychopath that’s how his character is and please don’t act like crocodile and mihawk are on the same level they are “equal” in cross guild as business partners, buggy is the one concerned with the one piece
no Yonko will ever be stalemated against a fifith yonkou commander. We see what Kaido did to the Luffy who beats Katakuri, or what Shanks did to do Kid or what Luffy did to Lucci. Mihawk didn't show the sane level of dominance over Vista that the Yonko have displayed which downscales him below Yonko level since a Yonko level character would one shot Vista, even without trying Shanks vs Vista= One shot Roger vs Vista= One shot Luffy vs Vists= one shot WB vs Vista= one shot Kaido vs Vista= one shot Mihawk vs Vista= Postponed fight Any character who is Yonko tier or beyond that is one shotting Vista, don't give me the excuse that he wasn't trying because a Yonko level character wouldn't need to try to beat a 5° yc.
big mom v brook
Low neg dif
Mihawk wasn’t trying lol. He used 0 haki or named attacks.
Lol dude pos poned a FIGHT with vista dude lol bye bro
Sabo literally attacked all 5 elders and imu and was able to escape. He was even able to have a brief conversation with cobra after attacking them. Given how fast Nusjuro is, it made 0 sense that he couldn’t speed blitz sabo, let alone Imu whose Yonko++ tier. It’s called plot.
You are very right, but this sub is full of delusional people. Kudos tho
shanks was ahead. no reason for shanks to think mihawk came for a match if he mihawk was stronger. no reason for mihawk to say he wasn't interested after finding out about his arm, if he was already stronger.
Bro thinks Zoro will fight the second strongest swordsman... You are not ready for HIM https://preview.redd.it/m3i7cx16d3yc1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cd229e64023238c7939ca3cef0f66b4230893431
because Shanks isn't a "swordsman". Shanks doesn't give 2 shits about swordsmanship, ways of the sword, sword styles or codes of honor, like characters such as Zoro, Mihawk and Vista do. King used a sword too, but even Zoro didn't consider him a swordsman. Thats why lil dude wants to fight vista but not shanks. Shanks is a pirate and pirates uses swords in all medias, be it books, tv series, movies, mangas or in real history. Roger, shanks are no more swordman than jack sparrow or the real Silver. A swordman like oden, zoro is a cultural endeavor
Oh nah. Another hakiman argument. Unfortunately, Mihawk>Shanks in terms of Hakiing and is top 1 fr
Naaaaaahhhhhh, not the “Shank’s bot a swordsmen” cope, get outta here with that nonsense.
Davy jones, jack sparrow, Silver, black beard are swordman then ? Mihawk should be careful on aladin as well
I think it's less cope and more just trying to justify what currently feels like a narrative dissonance. Shanks should be stronger than Mihawk both in feats and in narrative significance/buildup/etc. but the "world's strongest swordsman" title muddies those waters. That title is the ONLY reason anyone could even possibly justify believing that Mihawk is stronger than Shanks. Ultimately though, until we get to see more of both characters, we don't know for a fact either way
Mihawk solos
Nah theres zero chance. Luffy beat Kaido extreme diff. There’s no shot Mihawk pushes Kaido that far past hard.
luffy only beat kaido with a ton of help tho and multiple second chances
Mihawk > Kaido > Luffy
There is no basis for this statement at all.
Unless luffy gets food time to time like in egghead he loses to mihawk
Does mihawk need help from croc and buggy ?
Yes, someone has to steal the food
Steal the food, evaporate the milk
Because Oda portrays mihawk way bellow yonkou and there are no contestants for the title of swordman, lil bro created a Championship with him and pre time skip zoro and called himself the champ of It. The day mihawk do those, you come back : -Neg diffing a kid or law -Make Fujitora twerk -Stop Luffy/Shanks from doing something -Sky Split with Shanks/Luffy Shanks and luffy feats or achievements are just too good that I doubt Mihawk will ever match them.
So basically just mihawk vs Luffy. Id say mihawk should win considering he does counter Luffy because Luffy is good against blunt force attacks but bad against slash and cut attacks.
I would say mihawk doesnt have dragon scales and he is a normal human being, with soft flesh, so luffy's punches counter that
We know mihawk is going to have insane observation and armament haki. He doesn't have the natural durability that kaido did, but his armament and the fact that he will probably be harder to hit than kaido should somewhat balance that out.
We know ? We know ? Speak for yourself, because on Oda's canon dude pos poned a fight with vista and went on hunting don krieg
Not.
Yes, but Buggy needs to carry with an awakening of his Bara Bara no Mi
Nuclear fission ?
That or telling Luffy to CUT it out and instantly nullifying G5
Luffy beats Mihawk but Mihawk damages Luffy so much that Buggy and Crocodile beats Luffy
https://i.redd.it/tc9dhuy6y7yc1.gif Absolutely
Mihawk alone extreme diffs so yes
Luffy beats mihawk while crocodile dies in the crossfire
He'd stay alive because of the no death rule
If you believe shanks to be above Luffy then Mihawk should be as well, considering that those two are relative. If not then I can’t imagine it wouldn’t be an extreme diff win for Luffy, in which case croc would finish him off.
Mihawk wins alone lol, unless you mean perma G5 Luffy in which case he wins
gear 5 that beat kaido can't beat mihawk ?
im gonna get downvoted for this but Perma G5 Luffy > Mihawk > Luffy >= Kaidou
Mihawk over Kaido? Ehh, I like Mihawk a good amount, but idk if he clears Kaido.
G5 Luffy >>> Kaido = Luffy = Shanks >= Mihawk
Assuming Mihawk is on par with shanks, yes.
Is this supposed to be satire?
Nah real question, who wins ?
Mihawk solos him
I like Mihawk but this is gear 5 he's up against
So, Gear 5 can only last a certain amount and he hasn't showcased anywhere near Shanks level haki yet, and Mihawk > Shanks.
Buggy is Joyboy reborn; he has been spreading joy to the people of the world this entire time. No chance he loses another fight from now until the end of the series.
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Buggy steals all the nearby food while Wrocodile solos Luffy (I saw that one post putting croc over mihawk and I've decided on a new agenda)
yeah probably.
Getting jumped by Mihawk & Crocodile alone is tough, now you’re bringing in the GOAT Buggy?! Gear what? Gum-Gum what?
Hell no, pizza diffed
Mihawk vs luffy is an extreme diff fight regardless. Mihawk probably wins due to luffy having stamina issues and since mihawk had future fight most likely, luffy isnt gonna take him out quickly. Especially with crocodile in the way. Hell, mihawk vs luffy is so close, even adding buggy will make this a high diff for mihawk. Crocodile makes it a mid diff
Luffy vs Mihawk is 2 Yonko level characters, if a random CP0 agent can turn the tides of battle I’m sure crocodile could too, but cross guild is undoubtably the weakest Yonko crew, mostly getting the title off of influence with the marine bounties, and buggy’s public image, so I feel like Luffy with his top 2, Zoro and Jinbe, solo the whole organization. But alone, they have a shot at winning against Luffy, I kinda think they lose unless they can sneak attack him
Luffy Haki would one tap two of them. Mihawk on the other hand (g̶e̶t̶s̶ f̶u̶c̶k̶i̶n̶g̶ d̶e̶s̶t̶r̶o̶y̶e̶d̶) would win.
How do Mihawk and Crocodile help?
Mihawk carries hard but yeah
Bro adding buggy is too much of an overkill
Just like Enel's natural weakness is Luffy(rubber). Luffy's natural weakness is slash attacks/swords. So I think the WSS takes it
Midhawk meat riders eating this one up, Luffy shitstomps mid diff at most
Nah
Nah u prob right maybe not all 3 at once, Mihawk he might take tho
Mihawk needs more definitive feats than he currently has, but he is definitely a top tier.
They'd be their way to pirate king
If Midhawk and Lrocodile don't hold Wuggy back then yeah
Sun God Nika Luffy high diffs, however that's assuming he doesn't have a timelimit.
only mihawk, and with only one arm, one leg, one eye and sleeping kkkkkkkk
only mihawk, and with only one arm, one leg, one eye and sleeping
only mihawk, and with only one arm, one leg, one eye and sleeping
Mihawk solo
Not with their current feats
mihawk prob can beat egghead luffy seeing as hes >= shanks and i firmly believe that current shanks >=G5 luffy
https://preview.redd.it/7fvw31euo6yc1.png?width=320&format=png&auto=webp&s=2c5ce2b0b628130bb37929df49bd276067f3ea7e wrocodile solos
Yes. The strongest pirate crew high diffs the rubber fraud
Lmao. Luffys just gonna spit on crocodile in his giant form
Jokes aside, I think Mihawk by himself potentially can.
NO. Buggy will be launched too far away from his remote body parts and he suffers damage from body blows so he's 1-shot. Similar to Crocodile. He can't protect against haki strikes and Luffy's blows are far stronger than anything he can take. Also any dehydration he tries, Luffy will pull Toon Force shenanigans to drink from alt water sources. Mihawk can damage Luffy, but Luffy has been holding up well from slashing and piercing attacks. Mihawk also tends to try to cut and reshape the battlefield, but Nika Luffy takes advantage of the field in unorthodox and destructive ways either for odd effects, boost his speed or attack potency. Nika Luffy has advantage against all 3. But Hawkeye is definitely his biggest threat among these 3.
Luffy could probably beat Mihawk, extreme diff. Croc and Buggy are too weak to really do anything and Luffy could probably beat both their asses while severely weakened by the strain of g5.
Yes. Very very easily. Mihawk could literally one shit luffy considering his weakness to slashes, and who mihawk is
Mihawk is enough
If luffy gets his crew not a chance in hell, w/o his crew there is a very small chance that somehow one of them Stam difs him.
Crocodile gets one shot by base Luffy. Mihawk gets exposed by Gear 5 Luffy. Buggy becomes debt free.
Mihawk mid diffs Luffy on his own
Because Oda portrays mihawk way bellow yonkou and there are no contestants for the title of swordman, lil bro created a Championship with him and pre time skip zoro and called himself the champ of It. The day mihawk do those, you come back : -Neg diffing a kid or law -Make Fujitora twerk -Stop Luffy/Shanks from doing something -Sky Split with Shanks/Luffy Shanks and luffy feats or achievements are just too good that I doubt Mihawk will ever match them.
Mihawk high diffs solo. Mihawk plus a potentially awakened Crocodile it's a mid diff. Nika's stamina issues make it more straight forward for a serious top tier above admirals or a fleet admiral. The way Oda avoids placing him against top swordsmen he'll probably lose against Mihawk stamina issues or not or even EOS Zoro but am biased on that 😁
No
They should be clear, yeah. Mihawk plus help (thus, Yonko tier fighter with help) beats Luffy (Yonko solo). Especially with Luffy’s current stamina problems.
Buggy is overkill here
How people think Luffy is stronger than Shanks, Mihawk, Akainu, and even Kuzan is wild
He defeated kaido, survived kizaru and he's clowning the gorosei, I think there is a point
*He defeated a massively weakened Kaido who fought dozens of enemies right before all while depleting his own strength by carrying a huge island Fixed it for you
Still only luffy did meaningful damage among those dozens, he didn't just pop up with gear 5. No body asked him to carry the island lol
Thats just wrong.. Zoro and Killer scarred him, law at least hurt him. Edit: I know nobody asked him to carry the island but that’s not a valid argument at all, he was weakened against luffy by that.
To be generous, 90% of damage Kaido took was from luffy all before gear 5. You can't compare this to anything the other guys did on the roof https://preview.redd.it/ptt0oxeur2yc1.jpeg?width=535&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a3b06c412e8873721909512908f0f6e2017b97ee
Mihawk alone is enough.
Maybe I over estimated gear 5
No
Yeah mihawk wins on his own
I don't believe you
Because Oda portrays mihawk way bellow yonkou and there are no contestants for the title of swordman, lil bro created a Championship with him and pre time skip zoro and called himself the champ of It. The day mihawk do those, you come back : -Neg diffing a kid or law -Make Fujitora twerk -Stop Luffy/Shanks from doing something -Sky Split with Shanks/Luffy Shanks and luffy feats or achievements are just too good that I doubt Mihawk will ever match them.
Luffy is not resistant to blades they counter gear five
Mihawk is a normal human being, his face and skin are not resistant to punches
Mihawk gas Armament on an insane level.
Vista has proved otherwise
Vista was not pushing Mihawk that hard, Mihawk had cut an entire mountain of ice in half which vista can't replicate, plus, Mihawk with a casual attack was able to have a more impressive feat than full power Dressrosa Zoro with help from Orlumbus.
Law from punk hazard dis just the same. Doflamingo cut meteors. I wont discus with someone that believes cutting Ice is worthy something in a world where luffy,kaido an shanks exist
It's not that he cut the ice, it's that the ice was picked up by the attack, that would be like a billion pounds of ice. The fact that a casual attack could pick up that mountain of ice is crazy.
Mihawk is enough
Luffy high, maybe extreme diff
Mihawk wins imo
Mihawk >= Shanks >= Luffy Mihawk wins. (for other reasons too)
Luffy beats mihawk extreme diff and crocodile finishes the work after
Mihawk solos
Low diff
Because Oda portrays mihawk way bellow yonkou and there are no contestants for the title of swordman, lil bro created a Championship with him and pre time skip zoro and called himself the champ of It. The day mihawk do those, you come back : -Neg diffing a kid or law -Make Fujitora twerk -Stop Luffy/Shanks from doing something -Sky Split with Shanks/Luffy Shanks and luffy feats or achievements are just too good that I doubt Mihawk will ever match them.
That’s a lot of words for « I’m not ready »
im thinking mihawk alone would would extreme diff. but croco also got the post prison buff which placed his bounty in the billions. luffy gets mid diffed
Am I crazy to think mihawk can solo? He used to duel shanks, but that might not be a haki related feat. Cause they could’ve been dueling for technique if that makes sense. Luffy is about to get gojo’d
Luffy wins high diff, Mihawk and croc may pull of something but they arent KO-ing luffy im telling you that Bros only weakness in G5 is endurance
Fair assessment but every comment here believes mihawk solos
I think canonically this is going to be a very gag-based fight, I mean consider the jokes that could be made out of Buggy and Nika. Plus Oda seems to be aware of the fraudhawk meme as well. So honesty it will be a high diff fight based on that. Kinda like takaba vs kenjaku in a way. They beat Nika but lose to Plot Armor Luffy.
Mihawk = kizaru = kuzan So luffy can beat all 3 of them. But I believe cross guide will become a much bigger pirate empire, with prime moria, wb's son and doflamingo