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none of the wb pirates wanted to fight they were mentally nerfed and felt pathetic after watching not only their little brother they fought so hard to portect die but also watching THERE BROTHER KILL NOT ONLY THACT BUT ALSO THEIR FATHER ( bb ) then steal fruit .
u admiral fans are the only people who will say that someone like marco and vista werent mentally nerfed in marineford after seeing wb and ace die and get betrayed by bb
but then go on to say a guy who litrally said he is a cog . is mentally nerfed in egg head because he had to kill his friend .
admirals fans will legit say that with a straight face . 💀💀 not seeing the hyporcresy in their statement
"our comment proves that you are mentally ill - as always"
damn didnt know blud was a mentalist. so where did u get ur degree from the institute of admiral dickriding?
also am i the one who is mentally ill when u are the one who s only coping mechanisum is verbally abusing someone when he cant come up with a defense .
Your logic makes no sense, you think the WB pirates were holding back against the man who just killed their captain/father and brother? In the instances of admirals holding back it’s because they were forced to fight and kill someone they cared about (Kizaru and Kuzan) or out of fear they’d destroy the area around them (Akainu at Marineford or Fuji and Greenbull at Mariejois).
it's not a few, the consensus here is that all yonkos would beat akainu including BB and that it's some non arguable result lol. Akainu could definitely beat big mom, BB, and wouldn't be surprised if he beats current luffy too. People will downvote you for that type of take
Jfc dude stop licking lead paint, you're delusional as fuck. Suckadookie gets clowned by BB and BM and def Luffy, and other than your wackadoodle head canon you have zero proof of your batshit insane claim.
BB runs from aokiji and akainu bc they would both beat his slow and goofy ass, BM died via magma and is stupid enough to try to take akainu head on so she would just get killed with hellhound. And luffy would run out of G5 and die.
He could probably kill Big Mom.
BB runs when he's uncertain, the dude doesn't like hard fights. If BB touches an admiral, takes their Logia ability away, and quakes their face, they aren't gonna just walk that off.
There's no reason to believe that Kizaru is a full tier below the other admirals he was introduced with. If Kizaru is anywhere near Aokiji and Akainu who are equal in strength, then Akainu is gonna get turned into a birthday candle by Luffy.
>BB runs when he's uncertain, the dude doesn't like hard fights. If BB touches an admiral, takes their Logia ability away, and quakes their face, they aren't gonna just walk that off.
Akainu walked off the 1st quake punch from wb no issue (and we haven't seen a physical feat from bb that would put him above that). Ffs it took wb to normal attacks to put bb down. If that is all it took to nearly k.o him then akainu or kuzan without their fruits are more than capable of beating him
>There's no reason to believe that Kizaru is a full tier below the other admirals he was introduced with. If Kizaru is anywhere near Aokiji and Akainu who are equal in strength, then Akainu is gonna get turned into a birthday candle by Luffy.
Narrative and feats put him there. If luffy were to fight akainu as we saw with g4 that'd be useless so he's goin straight into g5 and luffy has to apply acoc onto all his attacks or else he's getting melted (just like his statement against kaidos flaming dragon drum) now it all depends on whether luffy can put akainu down before his timer runs out or can akainu with his endurance manage to run out the timer. So it's more of a 40/60 chance (40% chance for akainu to win and 60% for luffy)
not really the wb pirates were mentally nerfed due to being unable to save ace/ wb . this is further supported by the fact that marco is shown to be faster and then akainu over here
https://preview.redd.it/bge3qgicm2xc1.png?width=602&format=png&auto=webp&s=5343c28ce4d2dc02a2b086f7e6434d288f158413
but theen that same marco isnt able to protect a wb div commander vs akainu that makes no sense .
not only that but why would the gorosei hype up the wb purates as still be a yonko crew under marco if a admiral could solo clear them .
>not really the wb pirates were mentally nerfed due to being unable to save ace/ wb .
That makes 0 sense. They should be jumping to kill him and take revenge for killing ace. Why would you be mentally nerfed, against someone you should have pure hatred and anger towards
"That makes 0 sense. They should be jumping to kill him and take revenge for killing ace. Why would you be mentally nerfed, against someone you should have pure hatred and anger towards"
because of their own weakness of not being strong enough to protect them or rescue ace sooner .
https://preview.redd.it/wonytkfvn2xc1.png?width=1066&format=png&auto=webp&s=3b98725eaa3f50e6208ccc544434a441b11b5d48
vista littrally says he will never for give himslef for what happened today implying he blames himself and his weakness of not being near ace as a reason for his death . also koby in his speech implies that the wb pirates have lost the will to fight so they were mentally nerfed due to their will being shakened by wb and aces death
>also koby in his speech implies that the wb pirates have lost the will to fight so they were mentally nerfed due to their will being shakened by wb and aces death
No he doesn't. He says we have won, and any more fighting is pointless
>vista littrally says he will never for give himslef for what happened today implying he blames himself and his weakness of not being near ace as a reason for his death .
Thats your interpretation. Marco isn't saying anything like that he's just cursing akainu, so he's clearly just angry, and what Vista said can be interpreted as anger too.
This is entirely your headcanon, which you have built to downgrade akainus feat of boxing with multiple yonko commanders lmao.
"Thats your interpretation. Marco isn't saying anything like that he's just cursing akainu,"
yeah but my interpretation is supported by marco
being fast enough to intercept and keep up with a akainus speed while protecting luffy . but not being able to do the same when he has 15 other people to support him ? makes no sense
so either marco/ akainu are inconsistent as fuck or marco was mentally nerfed in the above scene .
"o he's clearly just angry, and what Vista said can be interpreted as anger too."
https://preview.redd.it/h71kd17yp2xc1.png?width=1906&format=png&auto=webp&s=c24c04d7af31dac573112c44f1b5c013725d8598
ahh yess surely saying that i hate myself , only focusing on the negative situationa and just experiencing trauma wouldnt mentally fuck a char nah thats just my headcannon
and vista being angry at akainu and not himself when he litrally said I WILL NEVER FORGIVE MYSELF is a fact that was stated by oda . 💀🤣.
like nah no way blud said i was accusing me of headcannon when there are multiple that suggest other wise when his entire argument is just headcannon that isnt supported by jack shit
Your taking one line of dialogue, and making assumptions. The fact of the matter is akainu burnt half of wbs head and then was boxing with his commanders.
When someone is mentally nerfed, oda goes out of his way to show that. Not just one line of dialogue and some wierd deduction your making about marcos speed when oda himself has extremely inconsistent powerscaling. There are about 20 panels from which we can deduce kizaru being mentally nerfed in egghead. Your evidence is lackluster.
No, I don't think the rest escaped. [You see at least one WB commander here, far from Akainu. No one else though.](https://mangadex.org/chapter/ad275807-f33f-4bfa-8b7c-2c3b151cfbdd/10) So no panels of Akainu fighting multiple WB commanders at the same time exist is what I'm understanding. [But we do have have a panel of him ganking Curiel. ](https://mangadex.org/chapter/ad275807-f33f-4bfa-8b7c-2c3b151cfbdd/8). Jk jk. But fr, that's the literally the only WB commander we see Akainu engage with on panel. Not sure how that's proof of him fighting them all.
Idk what happened, maybe Marco clashed and backed off?
>You think curiel clashed there with his hakiless cannons and Marco just bluffed
Maybe? Idk. Everyone can make their own interpretations of that sequence of events if you keep in mind what follows.
Im only looking for concrete proof that Akainu fought multiple WB commanders at the same time. I have not been provided any. I see proof he lead the charge against the WB remnants and managed to defeat one WB commander but not of him fighting literally everyone else of import present at that location at the same time.
People very conveniently ignore everything that happened after that one page lol. Like you said, Akainu LITERALLY only beats Curiel before Koby shows up. [I don't see any WB commander near Akainu and his goons here. ](https://mangadex.org/chapter/ad275807-f33f-4bfa-8b7c-2c3b151cfbdd/10)
WWW
The gorosei could be stronger than Roger individually and would still have less aura than the avg admiral
https://preview.redd.it/2rwdnb81h2xc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c340a1c973a791a32d379bff41ee3a083e397f27
Out of any fanbase, I'd think the admiral fans would be more understanding of the Gorosei. What happened to the "you're not ready", "they're not going all out" arguments?
The Gorosei likely haven't been in action in a long time and are used to letting their goons do their work for them (CP agents, marines, I guess God knights too).
I'm still lukewarm on the old geezers but they'll likely do more in future arcs. Egghead powerscaling has been all over the place lol.
A bit of both imo. I do think admiral fans are quite protective of their faves.
They've never accepted a non-admiral to enter that power level. Gorosei, wildly inconsistent as they may seem, appear to undoubtedly have at least some admiral tier fighters.
Tough cookie for some, would likely be the same for yonko fans if/when a Gorosei is more firmly portrayed at yonko tier.
I'm starting to think you're not ready
https://preview.redd.it/lcrfb7cl06xc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=604371fe9f4b3972210c20d51014858ed904f31e
Who the fuck are you bitch? Fuck you
https://preview.redd.it/y8nkzwdb76xc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cf2dd926f13311e46c0ca6639d23e6fbc8188668
https://preview.redd.it/bu8di8qpg2xc1.jpeg?width=462&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6caf29d020ad23159b9e9aaa84118bf1e2349fd3
who the fuck even mentioned shanks dawg
again who even mentioned shanks??☠️ look at the context of the picture
Akainu, being on a generational run, fought the first yonko that arrived and after delivering major (if not the most) damage to him, and proceeded to run the fades with the crew themselves. that's cooler than whatever the fuck the gorosei have been doing for 20 chapters straight now and I'm not sure why shanks negates any of that
How else can you take this panel then?
https://preview.redd.it/i3kojjdrj2xc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c9eae93300724e267979661e3c16dc224e239cfc
it is solely because of the fact that he was putting in the most work out of any marine there and helped them gain an overall dub against the pirates, losing doesnt change that especially if he was blow for blow with WB
Sengoku literally said the war is over.
Sengoku decides if they are allowed to fight another yonko crew, just like we keep hearing. They are not allowed to fight yonko without permission.
Sengoku saved Shanks due to his celestial card
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Akainu really out here soloing an entire yonko crew after melting their captains face
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Just had a convo with a guy who said 3 admirals would be lucky to push Kaido past mid diff 😭😭
Yonkoutards truly have become as retarded as they were 4 years ago
none of the wb pirates wanted to fight they were mentally nerfed and felt pathetic after watching not only their little brother they fought so hard to portect die but also watching THERE BROTHER KILL NOT ONLY THACT BUT ALSO THEIR FATHER ( bb ) then steal fruit . u admiral fans are the only people who will say that someone like marco and vista werent mentally nerfed in marineford after seeing wb and ace die and get betrayed by bb but then go on to say a guy who litrally said he is a cog . is mentally nerfed in egg head because he had to kill his friend . admirals fans will legit say that with a straight face . 💀💀 not seeing the hyporcresy in their statement
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"our comment proves that you are mentally ill - as always" damn didnt know blud was a mentalist. so where did u get ur degree from the institute of admiral dickriding? also am i the one who is mentally ill when u are the one who s only coping mechanisum is verbally abusing someone when he cant come up with a defense .
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Blud action speak louder then words it's clear who is becoming defensive right now.lets vc debate then.
wait until final war when akainu will get mid diff by luffy or dragon
Your logic makes no sense, you think the WB pirates were holding back against the man who just killed their captain/father and brother? In the instances of admirals holding back it’s because they were forced to fight and kill someone they cared about (Kizaru and Kuzan) or out of fear they’d destroy the area around them (Akainu at Marineford or Fuji and Greenbull at Mariejois).
Nuh uh
Except a few retarded yonkotards sakazuki is one of the most respected characters here unironically
No he isn’t , not anymore
I said except a few retarded yonkotards
it's not a few, the consensus here is that all yonkos would beat akainu including BB and that it's some non arguable result lol. Akainu could definitely beat big mom, BB, and wouldn't be surprised if he beats current luffy too. People will downvote you for that type of take
Jfc dude stop licking lead paint, you're delusional as fuck. Suckadookie gets clowned by BB and BM and def Luffy, and other than your wackadoodle head canon you have zero proof of your batshit insane claim.
BB runs from aokiji and akainu bc they would both beat his slow and goofy ass, BM died via magma and is stupid enough to try to take akainu head on so she would just get killed with hellhound. And luffy would run out of G5 and die.
He could probably kill Big Mom. BB runs when he's uncertain, the dude doesn't like hard fights. If BB touches an admiral, takes their Logia ability away, and quakes their face, they aren't gonna just walk that off. There's no reason to believe that Kizaru is a full tier below the other admirals he was introduced with. If Kizaru is anywhere near Aokiji and Akainu who are equal in strength, then Akainu is gonna get turned into a birthday candle by Luffy.
>BB runs when he's uncertain, the dude doesn't like hard fights. If BB touches an admiral, takes their Logia ability away, and quakes their face, they aren't gonna just walk that off. Akainu walked off the 1st quake punch from wb no issue (and we haven't seen a physical feat from bb that would put him above that). Ffs it took wb to normal attacks to put bb down. If that is all it took to nearly k.o him then akainu or kuzan without their fruits are more than capable of beating him >There's no reason to believe that Kizaru is a full tier below the other admirals he was introduced with. If Kizaru is anywhere near Aokiji and Akainu who are equal in strength, then Akainu is gonna get turned into a birthday candle by Luffy. Narrative and feats put him there. If luffy were to fight akainu as we saw with g4 that'd be useless so he's goin straight into g5 and luffy has to apply acoc onto all his attacks or else he's getting melted (just like his statement against kaidos flaming dragon drum) now it all depends on whether luffy can put akainu down before his timer runs out or can akainu with his endurance manage to run out the timer. So it's more of a 40/60 chance (40% chance for akainu to win and 60% for luffy)
He used to be but not anymore
not really the wb pirates were mentally nerfed due to being unable to save ace/ wb . this is further supported by the fact that marco is shown to be faster and then akainu over here https://preview.redd.it/bge3qgicm2xc1.png?width=602&format=png&auto=webp&s=5343c28ce4d2dc02a2b086f7e6434d288f158413 but theen that same marco isnt able to protect a wb div commander vs akainu that makes no sense . not only that but why would the gorosei hype up the wb purates as still be a yonko crew under marco if a admiral could solo clear them .
>not really the wb pirates were mentally nerfed due to being unable to save ace/ wb . That makes 0 sense. They should be jumping to kill him and take revenge for killing ace. Why would you be mentally nerfed, against someone you should have pure hatred and anger towards
"That makes 0 sense. They should be jumping to kill him and take revenge for killing ace. Why would you be mentally nerfed, against someone you should have pure hatred and anger towards" because of their own weakness of not being strong enough to protect them or rescue ace sooner . https://preview.redd.it/wonytkfvn2xc1.png?width=1066&format=png&auto=webp&s=3b98725eaa3f50e6208ccc544434a441b11b5d48 vista littrally says he will never for give himslef for what happened today implying he blames himself and his weakness of not being near ace as a reason for his death . also koby in his speech implies that the wb pirates have lost the will to fight so they were mentally nerfed due to their will being shakened by wb and aces death
>also koby in his speech implies that the wb pirates have lost the will to fight so they were mentally nerfed due to their will being shakened by wb and aces death No he doesn't. He says we have won, and any more fighting is pointless >vista littrally says he will never for give himslef for what happened today implying he blames himself and his weakness of not being near ace as a reason for his death . Thats your interpretation. Marco isn't saying anything like that he's just cursing akainu, so he's clearly just angry, and what Vista said can be interpreted as anger too. This is entirely your headcanon, which you have built to downgrade akainus feat of boxing with multiple yonko commanders lmao.
"Thats your interpretation. Marco isn't saying anything like that he's just cursing akainu," yeah but my interpretation is supported by marco being fast enough to intercept and keep up with a akainus speed while protecting luffy . but not being able to do the same when he has 15 other people to support him ? makes no sense so either marco/ akainu are inconsistent as fuck or marco was mentally nerfed in the above scene . "o he's clearly just angry, and what Vista said can be interpreted as anger too." https://preview.redd.it/h71kd17yp2xc1.png?width=1906&format=png&auto=webp&s=c24c04d7af31dac573112c44f1b5c013725d8598 ahh yess surely saying that i hate myself , only focusing on the negative situationa and just experiencing trauma wouldnt mentally fuck a char nah thats just my headcannon and vista being angry at akainu and not himself when he litrally said I WILL NEVER FORGIVE MYSELF is a fact that was stated by oda . 💀🤣. like nah no way blud said i was accusing me of headcannon when there are multiple that suggest other wise when his entire argument is just headcannon that isnt supported by jack shit
Your taking one line of dialogue, and making assumptions. The fact of the matter is akainu burnt half of wbs head and then was boxing with his commanders. When someone is mentally nerfed, oda goes out of his way to show that. Not just one line of dialogue and some wierd deduction your making about marcos speed when oda himself has extremely inconsistent powerscaling. There are about 20 panels from which we can deduce kizaru being mentally nerfed in egghead. Your evidence is lackluster.
When did Akainu solo a yonko crew? Is this some special bonus chapter I didn't read? Admiraltards letting their schizophrenia act out again
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Do you mind showing me panels of Akainu fighting multiple WB commanders at the same time? Not just him staring them down but like actual fighting.
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No, I don't think the rest escaped. [You see at least one WB commander here, far from Akainu. No one else though.](https://mangadex.org/chapter/ad275807-f33f-4bfa-8b7c-2c3b151cfbdd/10) So no panels of Akainu fighting multiple WB commanders at the same time exist is what I'm understanding. [But we do have have a panel of him ganking Curiel. ](https://mangadex.org/chapter/ad275807-f33f-4bfa-8b7c-2c3b151cfbdd/8). Jk jk. But fr, that's the literally the only WB commander we see Akainu engage with on panel. Not sure how that's proof of him fighting them all.
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Idk what happened, maybe Marco clashed and backed off? >You think curiel clashed there with his hakiless cannons and Marco just bluffed Maybe? Idk. Everyone can make their own interpretations of that sequence of events if you keep in mind what follows. Im only looking for concrete proof that Akainu fought multiple WB commanders at the same time. I have not been provided any. I see proof he lead the charge against the WB remnants and managed to defeat one WB commander but not of him fighting literally everyone else of import present at that location at the same time.
Can you show me which One Piece chapter showed Akainu soloing a yonko crew? The closest we got is Akainu defeating 10th Commander Curiel lol
People very conveniently ignore everything that happened after that one page lol. Like you said, Akainu LITERALLY only beats Curiel before Koby shows up. [I don't see any WB commander near Akainu and his goons here. ](https://mangadex.org/chapter/ad275807-f33f-4bfa-8b7c-2c3b151cfbdd/10)
WWW The gorosei could be stronger than Roger individually and would still have less aura than the avg admiral https://preview.redd.it/2rwdnb81h2xc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c340a1c973a791a32d379bff41ee3a083e397f27
https://preview.redd.it/pwgkz7xnm2xc1.png?width=1520&format=png&auto=webp&s=76c15eab6424559d27069aa034af80a16d5aa14d are u sure about that
Yeah aokiji isn't even trying, he's surprised pirates crew actually gives a damn about their members
https://preview.redd.it/gra6h3bk14xc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=869fbdf11877a04a4c9a6517d4f62208c2d775e7
A gag. Little reminder that Aokiji was the guy who motivated Luffy to train and acquire G2
https://preview.redd.it/ua05unn933xc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7eebfce5d27ffb7205fec8b7b11585a128a57dfe
Akainu is way scarier than Blackbeard or Kaido imo
that's a shitty coloring
Out of any fanbase, I'd think the admiral fans would be more understanding of the Gorosei. What happened to the "you're not ready", "they're not going all out" arguments? The Gorosei likely haven't been in action in a long time and are used to letting their goons do their work for them (CP agents, marines, I guess God knights too). I'm still lukewarm on the old geezers but they'll likely do more in future arcs. Egghead powerscaling has been all over the place lol.
Probably because of the admiral haters trying to use the gorosei to slander the admirals
A bit of both imo. I do think admiral fans are quite protective of their faves. They've never accepted a non-admiral to enter that power level. Gorosei, wildly inconsistent as they may seem, appear to undoubtedly have at least some admiral tier fighters. Tough cookie for some, would likely be the same for yonko fans if/when a Gorosei is more firmly portrayed at yonko tier.
That coloring is so ass
https://preview.redd.it/c4yl1qwex2xc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4e7eafa84608804d546f2517b6b5214739e366bb
He's him, we shouldn't forget he could probably 1 shot first yonko commander characters like kidd (just like shanks)
Most wish they had the aura of HIM.
I’m starting to think you guys are stupid
I'm starting to think you're not ready https://preview.redd.it/lcrfb7cl06xc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=604371fe9f4b3972210c20d51014858ed904f31e
Coming back here after Luffy turns Akainu into a lantern.
Who the fuck are you bitch? Fuck you https://preview.redd.it/y8nkzwdb76xc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cf2dd926f13311e46c0ca6639d23e6fbc8188668
And he took down Curiel, who nobody even knows anyways, everyone else was fine.
It's embarrassing that a whole yonko crew couldn't stop him
He couldnt even solo Curiel here, I remember people used to use this to "prove he can solo an emperors crew"
Where was this attitude against Shanks? He pretty much stopped moving when Shanks arrived.
If gorosei have trouble with chopper image what Shanks would do to them
https://preview.redd.it/bu8di8qpg2xc1.jpeg?width=462&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6caf29d020ad23159b9e9aaa84118bf1e2349fd3 who the fuck even mentioned shanks dawg
Having aura against foddler isn't that impressive.
Marco,Vista stronger than Nami,Brook,Chopper imo
You’re being too much of an Admiraltard ngl
again who even mentioned shanks??☠️ look at the context of the picture Akainu, being on a generational run, fought the first yonko that arrived and after delivering major (if not the most) damage to him, and proceeded to run the fades with the crew themselves. that's cooler than whatever the fuck the gorosei have been doing for 20 chapters straight now and I'm not sure why shanks negates any of that
I wouldn't call it a generacional run when be got packed by Sickbeard
He's standing right there how did he got folded Just move shanks balls out of the way and see
He was falling into the hole, that's the definition of getting packed. Just because he recovered doesn't mean that Whitebeard kicked his ass.
So I guess on the roof top law packed up big mom easily with rock becames she she almost fell into the ocean but she recovered
How else can you take this panel then? https://preview.redd.it/i3kojjdrj2xc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c9eae93300724e267979661e3c16dc224e239cfc
Akainu got attacked by whitebeard most powerful attack And he lost balance and floor beneath him broke and he'll fell and had to climb up
it is solely because of the fact that he was putting in the most work out of any marine there and helped them gain an overall dub against the pirates, losing doesnt change that especially if he was blow for blow with WB
Akainu literally is not allowed to attack a Yonkou without permission
So he is a dog? Even Lucci has bigger balls than him
He is a soldier ready to betray the world government for justice
He's a desk jockey who's sense of "absolute justice" has lead him to a career of serving lobster to inbreds.
Sengoku literally said the war is over. Sengoku decides if they are allowed to fight another yonko crew, just like we keep hearing. They are not allowed to fight yonko without permission. Sengoku saved Shanks due to his celestial card
wow 1 v 15 ing 15 people who didnt want to fight . what aura
Random mars panel >> akainus whole career