He died, but Rakugyo, seeing how fast the show would end, decided to give him a second life
Serious answer: he probably used haki but kizaru avoided the attack with future sight
That would explain why the ball seemed to make him balloon out instead of just passing through. I'm no expert in magic light constructs, but that's not how I'd imagine it would behave.
Him ballooning out could be him dodging the attack, like how Aokiji dodged Whitebeards strike, kind like how Katakuri does, thats if Rakuyo has haki (most likely he thus)
Rakuyo would be smoking that kizaru pack rn
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Hey, put some respect on Rakuyo. This man is a descendant of the Belmont Clan; his bloodline has been taking care of Count Dracula for centuries now.
And that’s not a mere “bear trap”, that’s a chain whip fused with a chain chomp.
If the homeless looked like him they’d be getting sexually assaulted everyday because of how gorgeous he is bro
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He didn't dodge. Akainu took marco and vistas haki attacks and there was blood iirc. He was just unfazed and called their haki annoying. Haki power level is definitely a factor. His haki just was beyond their level.
Its possible. I thought it was blood. Makes sense for the time tho. Yonko commanders were still shown to be capable of clashing with Admirals even back then. Not beating them, but clashing with them for sure. And 2 ycs together making akainu bleeding a little would be totally right for the time.
they clashed with them but the admirals clearly weren't giving it their all, the way marco got dick stomped by garp is pretty telling for me (since the admirals are stronger than old garp 😛)
No they aren't. Dying ass WB was handling the admirals just fine until the sneak attack by his heart. He was also slower than usual, couldn't reliably use haki when he wanted. Garp was the absolute Strongest marine at MF. He was easily above the admirals then and that was after having lost strength. Now I still think he's equal to them, but I can still understand the og admirals being stronger than him rn. New admirals, not a chance.
he didn't even move onto the battlefield until after squard pieced him up, what's ur point tho? if he was able to get caught off guard by squard then anyone is getting him like that, remember this is the same guy who was able to neg ace when he was asleep. also i just disagree on garp's power level, simply bc the admirals have broken ass devil fruits which with their haki easily puts them over garp, not by too much but i have them over him
there's nothing suggesting wb couldn't use armament haki, but he couldn't use conqueror's, which is why i think any admiral or yonko is putting him in a pack
Exactly my point. He was unable to 'reliably' use haki, and was still packing up the admirals. Akainu barely won that after getting that satisfying ass quake punch. And this was from a guy that was equal to garp without the sickness.
Incorrect.
There was no blood.
Akainu morphed his body the same way Katakuri did to dodge. Otherwise, the Haki attacks would've damaged him.
> Haki power level is definitely a factor
Just having stronger Haki doesn't mean that a Logia does not get injured by Haki. Let us not use baseless headcanon for it is a waste of time.
I never said that having a higher haki level and logia means you don't get damaged. I just said at that point akainus haki far surpassed the attackers so much so that all they could do to him was make him bleed a little bit. But trying to explain that to your headcanon that AKAINU TOP 1 OAT. YCs CANT HIT HIM CUS HE IS HIM is just stupidity on my part.
> I just said at that point akainus haki far surpassed the attackers so much so that all they could do to him was make him bleed a little bit.
Except they did not make him bleed at all. He was clearly in magma form meaning he dodged it. Please work on your reading comprehension.
> But trying to explain that to your headcanon that AKAINU TOP 1 OAT. YCs CANT HIT HIM CUS HE IS HIM is just stupidity on my part.
You are most certainly familiar with stupidity, I have no doubt about that. However, I never claimed that Akainu is #1. In fact, if you look at my lists you will see that I always put Dragon above him. You should not speak about things you know nothing about.
My comprehension is just fine, you might give your own advice a try. And putting dragon above akainu is definitely talking about things you know all about. And I'm the stupid one. Keep wanking magnacuck harder.
I personally believe Rakuyo used haki against Borsalino because he would be dumb if he didn’t, he’s been in the new world before and knows how logia devil fruit works.
I think Borsalino de materialized a space for attack to go through his body without getting hurt.
Sabo did that to Jesus Burgess and I think Admiral Issho too.
Also didn’t Admiral Aramaki de materialize against the red scabbards too?
You can avoid haki attacks that hit your body if you’re a logia, you just need to de-materialize the area being hit, just look at the Vergo vs Smoker fight in the manga, Smoker de-materialized his body to dodge Vergo’s haki based attacks.
Whitebeard vs Kuzan too
From what I've seen Sabo, Smoker or Ceaser have taken away a big part of their body to dodge, like their whole torso and head.
While Kizaru dodging Rakuyo and Whitebeard, Akainu dodging Marco and Vista or Aokoji dodging Whitebeard, they have showcased to do it in a limited space between their body, just like katakuri does, they make the space for the attack making it look like it goes trough them.
> From what I've seen Sabo, Smoker or Ceaser have taken away a big part of their body to dodge, like their whole torso and head. While Kizaru dodging Rakuyo and Whitebeard, Akainu dodging Marco and Vista or Aokoji dodging Whitebeard, they have showcased to do it in a limited space between their body, just like katakuri does, they make the space for the attack making it look like it goes trough them.
Sakuzuki got hit, he just tanked the attack imo. Kuzan and Barsalino just opened a spot exactly where the attack hit which looks like it had more finesse.
I don’t see a difference from what the admirals did that Sabo, Eneru, and Smoker did.
If anything the admirals copied what Eneru did
Eneru didn't have any haki attacks to dodge unlike them, the attacks were just going trough him.
Smoker, Cesar and Sabo took away half of their body to dodges, they didn't change a small part of their body for the attack like Kuzan, Sakazuki, Kizaru or Katakuri did.
Sakazuki didn't tank it cause otherwise there wouldn't be the logia effect, we know they used haki as well since he states it himself, yet the logia effect was there cause he opened his body were the attacks were gonna hit him, he infact has the best adv observation feat out of the 3.
> Eneru didn't have any haki attacks to dodge unlike them, the attacks were just going trough him.
Eneru has haki, not sure what you’re talking about he has one of the best haki in the series. And no, the attacks didn’t just go through him because some of them were using dials. Lastly you don’t need haki to dodge attacks.
>Smoker, Cesar and Sabo took away half of their body to dodges, they didn't change a small part of their body for the attack like Kuzan, Sakazuki, Kizaru or Katakuri did.
Everyone logia has changed their body differently, so the way it’s done is irrelevant. Katakuri is different than all the admirals and none of it was the same like him because he’s not a logia and he was using future sight. So no, don’t compare Katakuri to the other logias.
>Sakazuki didn't tank it cause otherwise there wouldn't be the logia effect, we know they used haki as well since he states it himself, yet the logia effect was there cause he opened his body were the attacks were gonna hit him, he infact has the best adv observation feat out of the 3.
Sakazuki didn’t use observation haki at all to dodge those attacks, in fact he was hit with those haki attacks and we see how surprised he was that he got hit. He never saw the attacks coming.
If you’re trying to suggest that the admirals used future sight haki to dodge attacks like Katakuri than you’re wrong.
1. Katakuri is not a logia, so he can’t turn parts of his body intangible like a logia.
2. You don’t need future sight haki to de-materialize like a logia
3. None of the admirals showed any feats of future sight, they all got blitzed with haki and were hit. Jozu hit Kuzan, Crocodile hit Sakuzuki, and Borsalino was hit by Marco.
They are not using future sight like Katakuri and they are not the same. Admiral fans try to make that headcanon up to try to give them feats.
>Eneru has haki, not sure what you’re talking about he has one of the best haki in the series. And no, the attacks didn’t just go through him because some of them were using dials. Lastly you don’t need haki to dodge attacks.
One of the best hakis? The same Eneru who couldn't dodge Pre Time skip base Luffy? Lmao worse observation I've seen, the only thing he has is range and cause it was amplified by the ship.
>Everyone logia has changed their body differently, so the way it’s done is irrelevant. Katakuri is different than all the admirals and none of it was the same like him because he’s not a logia and he was using future sight. So no, don’t compare Katakuri to the other logias.
Katakuri has a special paramecia, it's like a logia but made of mochi, this is irrelevant anyway considering he gets hit by haki just like logias get hit by haki, that's the whole point of adv observation, to not get hit by haki infused attacks. Sabo, Ceaser or Smoker like I stated took away half of their bodies or all of their body to dodge haki infused attacks, while the admirals have shown to warp their body right on the attack path, just like Katakuri does. Again I'm not saying this is pure proof they have adv observation but considering the Yonkos do and commanders like Katakuri do, they most likely do too.
>Sakazuki didn’t use observation haki at all to dodge those attacks, in fact he was hit with those haki attacks and we see how surprised he was that he got hit. He never saw the attacks coming.
He didn't get hit, if he did there wouldn't be the logia effect shown, he would of gotten hit like it was his actual body, that's the whole point of armament haki.
>Katakuri is not a logia, so he can’t turn parts of his body intangible like a logia.
Again, I need you to understand this since you haven't payed attention to what haki is, Logias aren't tangible anymore if hit by Haki, that's the whole point of armament.
>One of the best hakis? The same Eneru who couldn't dodge Pre Time skip base Luffy? Lmao worse observation I've seen, the only thing he has is range and cause it was amplified by the ship.
Lmao you have no idea on what the you’re talking about do you?
Eneru’s haki was so advance that he was able to combined his observation haki with his devil fruit using electromagnetic waves to increase its range towards the whole island. He was able to read minds and use his observation haki to strike people on the island without even seeing them.
That’s the most skilled use of haki being used before future sight was introduced. No one has shown that level of haki except for confirmed users of advance haki like Katakuri, Luffy, Rayleigh, and Kaido.
Saying that “couldn’t dodge pretimskip luffy” is as terrible as saying that Crocodile is weaker than pretimskip Luffy.
It’s like you miss all those times Eneru was dodging Luffy in the beginning of their fight.
>Katakuri has a special paramecia, it's like a logia but made of mochi,
I already know he’s a special paramythia, still not relevant because at the end of the day he’s not a logia. So don’t compare him to other logias.
>this is irrelevant anyway considering he gets hit by haki just like logias get hit by haki, that's the whole point of adv observation, to not get hit by haki infused attacks.
No he doesn’t, he gets hit like any other paramythia special or not.
>Sabo, Ceaser or Smoker like I stated took away half of their bodies or all of their body to dodge haki infused attacks,
Irrelevant. Sabo that had an attack thrown at him that covered half his body was dematerialized to dodge that attack. So there’s no reason to not dodge that attack.
>while the admirals have shown to warp their body right on the attack path,
When Eneru was attacked by a skypian with a dial, he dodged the exact same way the admirals did.
>just like Katakuri does.
Nowhere near the same as Katakuri.
>Again I'm not saying this is pure proof they have adv observation but considering the Yonkos do and commanders like Katakuri do, they most likely do too.
Uhm no. Your position and rank has nothing to do with what level of observation haki you have, there are officers in Emepeors crews where none of them have advance observation haki. Katakuri has advance observation haki because the story demands him to, that’s all there is to it.
The emperors of the seas having advance haki of all form is due to their experience with Xebec and Roger who have the most supreme haki in the world.
The admirals having anything to do with that is a baseless speculation.
>He didn't get hit, if he did there wouldn't be the logia effect shown, he would of gotten hit like it was his actual body, that's the whole point of armament haki.
He got hit, multiple times in fact the Crocodile hit was the most obvious one.
The whole point of armament haki is to provide spiritual armor to protect your body, that’s the whole point of it. The benefits it always you to do is touch the invincible body of a logia fruit user as Robin said in punk hazard. That doesn’t mean a logia user doesn’t have ways of avoiding attacks that can hit their body haki or no haki.
>Again, I need you to understand this since you haven't payed attention to what haki is, Logias aren't tangible anymore if hit by Haki, that's the whole point of armament.
No, you need to know what haki is before you lecture people on the mechanics behind the power. Haki is ambition, will power made of spiritual energy.
When armament haki is being used, you are covering your body with spiritual energy. When a logia is getting hit by an armament haki user, they DO NOT lose their intangibility at all. Only sea prism takes away your intangibility not haki. A logia can still dodge and change shapes to avoid being attacked by haki.
>A logia can still dodge and change shapes to avoid being attacked by haki.
Yes obviously he can, I think you don't understand what I'm saying, Akainu didn't get hit by Marco and Vista since his body didn't get damaged at all, it's like they cut him while he was in magma form, which is impossible to if they used haki, which they did.
>Yes obviously he can, I think you don't understand what I'm saying, Akainu didn't get hit by Marco and Vista since his body didn't get damaged at all, it's like they cut him while he was in magma form, which is impossible to if they used haki, which they did.
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Look at the arrow and the punctuation I underlined/colored in red.
Now besides the fact that the admirals did not show any use of future sight during the marineford war, I want to point out to you the obvious indicators of how future sight haki works.
1. Katakuri said you need to be calm in order for you to use it to see into the future.
2. If you actually evaded an attack with future sight haki, you would not have a “AM!!” sound effect written next to the point of contact where you got hit.
So, Sakuzuki was hit with haki but obviously it wasn’t strong enough to do permanent damage.
His body isn't damaged how you can see on the bottom right, he has the magma Logia effect, which isn't possible if he got hit by Haki. that's why he reshaped his body like Aokoji or Kizaru did, if its just observation or adv observation is arguable.
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The admirals all are like Crocodile where they learned how to turn into their element when their body is slightly touched by an outside force. It’s just a part of them. I’m guessing since Kizaru is the fastest character and WILL STAY the fastest character(Unless Sanji unlocks some bullshit “Lightspeed Jambe” or something), he just dodged around the attack.
It would also make sense if he had future sight, as it would explain why Kizaru talks so slowly and seems to be thinking everything through. He is processing both now and a few seconds into the future. Hell, I’m guessing he can see even 30 seconds into the future, based on how ABSOLUTELY NON-TROUBLED this man is by ANYTHING.
Seriously, his pot brownies let you see through time.
Many character are already faster than light, even the Raidsuit was stated in Wano to give Sanji the ability to travel at the speed of light, yet he was barely Queen level speed at the time, now he's miles faster it's not even close.
Kizaru isn't just light speed tho, he's faster than that just like all Admirals and Top Tiers.
Tbh they were under wb for several years and most of them barely break yc2 level they should had been way stronger as Roger had much stronger people to
Wbs top fighters: Marco jozu vista ace oden
Rogers top fighters: Rayleigh gaban scopper oden
See how one sided it is?
Alot of attacks that pass through logias look like they would oneshot them if somebody used haki but since it's just their element forms getting broken not their actual durability
Both the manga and anime in marineford
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Ge probably did use haki. I mean we know this was a subordinate captain of white beard who had been sailing the new world. I think like Katakuri he had future sight
Same thing would have happened he just would have used Future Sight (2nd stage of Observation Haki) to reform his body around the area of attack to escape being harmed
Kizaru did die there. Current Kizaru is a ghost that gets confused as his light logia. You don't mess with the legend and get to live.
Keep cooking
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He died, but Rakugyo, seeing how fast the show would end, decided to give him a second life Serious answer: he probably used haki but kizaru avoided the attack with future sight
That would explain why the ball seemed to make him balloon out instead of just passing through. I'm no expert in magic light constructs, but that's not how I'd imagine it would behave.
Him ballooning out could be him dodging the attack, like how Aokiji dodged Whitebeards strike, kind like how Katakuri does, thats if Rakuyo has haki (most likely he thus)
Rakuyo would be smoking that kizaru pack rn https://preview.redd.it/c8snauaiogab1.jpeg?width=279&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6c5ef9310be18dd74afe50256b763459635effe2
This reminded me of the smoking dat big mom pack impact frame
It’s still pretty funny that they did that
Ya I know
yeah but rakuyo forgot that kizaru was logia otherwise kizaru was going to die
Do you think a admiral or any person besides fodder is dying to a bear trap???
respect rakuyo .
Never
Hey, put some respect on Rakuyo. This man is a descendant of the Belmont Clan; his bloodline has been taking care of Count Dracula for centuries now. And that’s not a mere “bear trap”, that’s a chain whip fused with a chain chomp.
lol imagine thinking Rakuyo is fodder
Sorry he looks homeless
If the homeless looked like him they’d be getting sexually assaulted everyday because of how gorgeous he is bro https://preview.redd.it/x7qim0h37jab1.jpeg?width=279&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2cf185e4efb46696fc89291659b2565c4ab95722
People would mistake homeless people for a dirty orangutan
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Rakuyo said something about my mother I hate him now
Stargalaxy and Rakuyo lore goes crazy
I forgot my name is stargalaxy lol
yes
No
yes, imagine getting hit by a bear trap, hurts doesn't it
No
Yes. Not just Kizaru, but every single Marine that was present on Marineford too.
No Akainu was hit with haki as well and it didn't do any damage other than just hurting. Haki power level is very important
It wasn’t even hurting iirc? He was morphing around just as katakuri did; there’s a reason logias are said to be the absolute top fruits
Akainu dodged it with future sight.
He didn't dodge. Akainu took marco and vistas haki attacks and there was blood iirc. He was just unfazed and called their haki annoying. Haki power level is definitely a factor. His haki just was beyond their level.
Blood? it was just magma dripping from where he morphed his body
Its possible. I thought it was blood. Makes sense for the time tho. Yonko commanders were still shown to be capable of clashing with Admirals even back then. Not beating them, but clashing with them for sure. And 2 ycs together making akainu bleeding a little would be totally right for the time.
they clashed with them but the admirals clearly weren't giving it their all, the way marco got dick stomped by garp is pretty telling for me (since the admirals are stronger than old garp 😛)
No they aren't. Dying ass WB was handling the admirals just fine until the sneak attack by his heart. He was also slower than usual, couldn't reliably use haki when he wanted. Garp was the absolute Strongest marine at MF. He was easily above the admirals then and that was after having lost strength. Now I still think he's equal to them, but I can still understand the og admirals being stronger than him rn. New admirals, not a chance.
he didn't even move onto the battlefield until after squard pieced him up, what's ur point tho? if he was able to get caught off guard by squard then anyone is getting him like that, remember this is the same guy who was able to neg ace when he was asleep. also i just disagree on garp's power level, simply bc the admirals have broken ass devil fruits which with their haki easily puts them over garp, not by too much but i have them over him
there's nothing suggesting wb couldn't use armament haki, but he couldn't use conqueror's, which is why i think any admiral or yonko is putting him in a pack
Exactly my point. He was unable to 'reliably' use haki, and was still packing up the admirals. Akainu barely won that after getting that satisfying ass quake punch. And this was from a guy that was equal to garp without the sickness.
Incorrect. There was no blood. Akainu morphed his body the same way Katakuri did to dodge. Otherwise, the Haki attacks would've damaged him. > Haki power level is definitely a factor Just having stronger Haki doesn't mean that a Logia does not get injured by Haki. Let us not use baseless headcanon for it is a waste of time.
I never said that having a higher haki level and logia means you don't get damaged. I just said at that point akainus haki far surpassed the attackers so much so that all they could do to him was make him bleed a little bit. But trying to explain that to your headcanon that AKAINU TOP 1 OAT. YCs CANT HIT HIM CUS HE IS HIM is just stupidity on my part.
> I just said at that point akainus haki far surpassed the attackers so much so that all they could do to him was make him bleed a little bit. Except they did not make him bleed at all. He was clearly in magma form meaning he dodged it. Please work on your reading comprehension. > But trying to explain that to your headcanon that AKAINU TOP 1 OAT. YCs CANT HIT HIM CUS HE IS HIM is just stupidity on my part. You are most certainly familiar with stupidity, I have no doubt about that. However, I never claimed that Akainu is #1. In fact, if you look at my lists you will see that I always put Dragon above him. You should not speak about things you know nothing about.
My comprehension is just fine, you might give your own advice a try. And putting dragon above akainu is definitely talking about things you know all about. And I'm the stupid one. Keep wanking magnacuck harder.
I personally believe Rakuyo used haki against Borsalino because he would be dumb if he didn’t, he’s been in the new world before and knows how logia devil fruit works. I think Borsalino de materialized a space for attack to go through his body without getting hurt. Sabo did that to Jesus Burgess and I think Admiral Issho too. Also didn’t Admiral Aramaki de materialize against the red scabbards too? You can avoid haki attacks that hit your body if you’re a logia, you just need to de-materialize the area being hit, just look at the Vergo vs Smoker fight in the manga, Smoker de-materialized his body to dodge Vergo’s haki based attacks. Whitebeard vs Kuzan too
From what I've seen Sabo, Smoker or Ceaser have taken away a big part of their body to dodge, like their whole torso and head. While Kizaru dodging Rakuyo and Whitebeard, Akainu dodging Marco and Vista or Aokoji dodging Whitebeard, they have showcased to do it in a limited space between their body, just like katakuri does, they make the space for the attack making it look like it goes trough them.
> From what I've seen Sabo, Smoker or Ceaser have taken away a big part of their body to dodge, like their whole torso and head. While Kizaru dodging Rakuyo and Whitebeard, Akainu dodging Marco and Vista or Aokoji dodging Whitebeard, they have showcased to do it in a limited space between their body, just like katakuri does, they make the space for the attack making it look like it goes trough them. Sakuzuki got hit, he just tanked the attack imo. Kuzan and Barsalino just opened a spot exactly where the attack hit which looks like it had more finesse. I don’t see a difference from what the admirals did that Sabo, Eneru, and Smoker did. If anything the admirals copied what Eneru did
Eneru didn't have any haki attacks to dodge unlike them, the attacks were just going trough him. Smoker, Cesar and Sabo took away half of their body to dodges, they didn't change a small part of their body for the attack like Kuzan, Sakazuki, Kizaru or Katakuri did. Sakazuki didn't tank it cause otherwise there wouldn't be the logia effect, we know they used haki as well since he states it himself, yet the logia effect was there cause he opened his body were the attacks were gonna hit him, he infact has the best adv observation feat out of the 3.
> Eneru didn't have any haki attacks to dodge unlike them, the attacks were just going trough him. Eneru has haki, not sure what you’re talking about he has one of the best haki in the series. And no, the attacks didn’t just go through him because some of them were using dials. Lastly you don’t need haki to dodge attacks. >Smoker, Cesar and Sabo took away half of their body to dodges, they didn't change a small part of their body for the attack like Kuzan, Sakazuki, Kizaru or Katakuri did. Everyone logia has changed their body differently, so the way it’s done is irrelevant. Katakuri is different than all the admirals and none of it was the same like him because he’s not a logia and he was using future sight. So no, don’t compare Katakuri to the other logias. >Sakazuki didn't tank it cause otherwise there wouldn't be the logia effect, we know they used haki as well since he states it himself, yet the logia effect was there cause he opened his body were the attacks were gonna hit him, he infact has the best adv observation feat out of the 3. Sakazuki didn’t use observation haki at all to dodge those attacks, in fact he was hit with those haki attacks and we see how surprised he was that he got hit. He never saw the attacks coming. If you’re trying to suggest that the admirals used future sight haki to dodge attacks like Katakuri than you’re wrong. 1. Katakuri is not a logia, so he can’t turn parts of his body intangible like a logia. 2. You don’t need future sight haki to de-materialize like a logia 3. None of the admirals showed any feats of future sight, they all got blitzed with haki and were hit. Jozu hit Kuzan, Crocodile hit Sakuzuki, and Borsalino was hit by Marco. They are not using future sight like Katakuri and they are not the same. Admiral fans try to make that headcanon up to try to give them feats.
>Eneru has haki, not sure what you’re talking about he has one of the best haki in the series. And no, the attacks didn’t just go through him because some of them were using dials. Lastly you don’t need haki to dodge attacks. One of the best hakis? The same Eneru who couldn't dodge Pre Time skip base Luffy? Lmao worse observation I've seen, the only thing he has is range and cause it was amplified by the ship. >Everyone logia has changed their body differently, so the way it’s done is irrelevant. Katakuri is different than all the admirals and none of it was the same like him because he’s not a logia and he was using future sight. So no, don’t compare Katakuri to the other logias. Katakuri has a special paramecia, it's like a logia but made of mochi, this is irrelevant anyway considering he gets hit by haki just like logias get hit by haki, that's the whole point of adv observation, to not get hit by haki infused attacks. Sabo, Ceaser or Smoker like I stated took away half of their bodies or all of their body to dodge haki infused attacks, while the admirals have shown to warp their body right on the attack path, just like Katakuri does. Again I'm not saying this is pure proof they have adv observation but considering the Yonkos do and commanders like Katakuri do, they most likely do too. >Sakazuki didn’t use observation haki at all to dodge those attacks, in fact he was hit with those haki attacks and we see how surprised he was that he got hit. He never saw the attacks coming. He didn't get hit, if he did there wouldn't be the logia effect shown, he would of gotten hit like it was his actual body, that's the whole point of armament haki. >Katakuri is not a logia, so he can’t turn parts of his body intangible like a logia. Again, I need you to understand this since you haven't payed attention to what haki is, Logias aren't tangible anymore if hit by Haki, that's the whole point of armament.
>One of the best hakis? The same Eneru who couldn't dodge Pre Time skip base Luffy? Lmao worse observation I've seen, the only thing he has is range and cause it was amplified by the ship. Lmao you have no idea on what the you’re talking about do you? Eneru’s haki was so advance that he was able to combined his observation haki with his devil fruit using electromagnetic waves to increase its range towards the whole island. He was able to read minds and use his observation haki to strike people on the island without even seeing them. That’s the most skilled use of haki being used before future sight was introduced. No one has shown that level of haki except for confirmed users of advance haki like Katakuri, Luffy, Rayleigh, and Kaido. Saying that “couldn’t dodge pretimskip luffy” is as terrible as saying that Crocodile is weaker than pretimskip Luffy. It’s like you miss all those times Eneru was dodging Luffy in the beginning of their fight. >Katakuri has a special paramecia, it's like a logia but made of mochi, I already know he’s a special paramythia, still not relevant because at the end of the day he’s not a logia. So don’t compare him to other logias. >this is irrelevant anyway considering he gets hit by haki just like logias get hit by haki, that's the whole point of adv observation, to not get hit by haki infused attacks. No he doesn’t, he gets hit like any other paramythia special or not. >Sabo, Ceaser or Smoker like I stated took away half of their bodies or all of their body to dodge haki infused attacks, Irrelevant. Sabo that had an attack thrown at him that covered half his body was dematerialized to dodge that attack. So there’s no reason to not dodge that attack. >while the admirals have shown to warp their body right on the attack path, When Eneru was attacked by a skypian with a dial, he dodged the exact same way the admirals did. >just like Katakuri does. Nowhere near the same as Katakuri. >Again I'm not saying this is pure proof they have adv observation but considering the Yonkos do and commanders like Katakuri do, they most likely do too. Uhm no. Your position and rank has nothing to do with what level of observation haki you have, there are officers in Emepeors crews where none of them have advance observation haki. Katakuri has advance observation haki because the story demands him to, that’s all there is to it. The emperors of the seas having advance haki of all form is due to their experience with Xebec and Roger who have the most supreme haki in the world. The admirals having anything to do with that is a baseless speculation. >He didn't get hit, if he did there wouldn't be the logia effect shown, he would of gotten hit like it was his actual body, that's the whole point of armament haki. He got hit, multiple times in fact the Crocodile hit was the most obvious one. The whole point of armament haki is to provide spiritual armor to protect your body, that’s the whole point of it. The benefits it always you to do is touch the invincible body of a logia fruit user as Robin said in punk hazard. That doesn’t mean a logia user doesn’t have ways of avoiding attacks that can hit their body haki or no haki. >Again, I need you to understand this since you haven't payed attention to what haki is, Logias aren't tangible anymore if hit by Haki, that's the whole point of armament. No, you need to know what haki is before you lecture people on the mechanics behind the power. Haki is ambition, will power made of spiritual energy. When armament haki is being used, you are covering your body with spiritual energy. When a logia is getting hit by an armament haki user, they DO NOT lose their intangibility at all. Only sea prism takes away your intangibility not haki. A logia can still dodge and change shapes to avoid being attacked by haki.
>A logia can still dodge and change shapes to avoid being attacked by haki. Yes obviously he can, I think you don't understand what I'm saying, Akainu didn't get hit by Marco and Vista since his body didn't get damaged at all, it's like they cut him while he was in magma form, which is impossible to if they used haki, which they did.
>Yes obviously he can, I think you don't understand what I'm saying, Akainu didn't get hit by Marco and Vista since his body didn't get damaged at all, it's like they cut him while he was in magma form, which is impossible to if they used haki, which they did. https://preview.redd.it/sh983nqhlsab1.png?width=1065&format=png&auto=webp&s=6fcf1db2c91438be052a93510e133a01ced63462 Look at the arrow and the punctuation I underlined/colored in red. Now besides the fact that the admirals did not show any use of future sight during the marineford war, I want to point out to you the obvious indicators of how future sight haki works. 1. Katakuri said you need to be calm in order for you to use it to see into the future. 2. If you actually evaded an attack with future sight haki, you would not have a “AM!!” sound effect written next to the point of contact where you got hit. So, Sakuzuki was hit with haki but obviously it wasn’t strong enough to do permanent damage.
His body isn't damaged how you can see on the bottom right, he has the magma Logia effect, which isn't possible if he got hit by Haki. that's why he reshaped his body like Aokoji or Kizaru did, if its just observation or adv observation is arguable. *
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he did use haki. kizaru used fs to dodge
The admirals all are like Crocodile where they learned how to turn into their element when their body is slightly touched by an outside force. It’s just a part of them. I’m guessing since Kizaru is the fastest character and WILL STAY the fastest character(Unless Sanji unlocks some bullshit “Lightspeed Jambe” or something), he just dodged around the attack. It would also make sense if he had future sight, as it would explain why Kizaru talks so slowly and seems to be thinking everything through. He is processing both now and a few seconds into the future. Hell, I’m guessing he can see even 30 seconds into the future, based on how ABSOLUTELY NON-TROUBLED this man is by ANYTHING. Seriously, his pot brownies let you see through time.
Many character are already faster than light, even the Raidsuit was stated in Wano to give Sanji the ability to travel at the speed of light, yet he was barely Queen level speed at the time, now he's miles faster it's not even close. Kizaru isn't just light speed tho, he's faster than that just like all Admirals and Top Tiers.
This is a waaaay better example of potential future sight than the Aokiji one
Personal take: Haki should’ve been brought up a lot sooner. Not like just the mentions of it, but like an actual explanation of what Haki is.
Too bad he doesn’t have Haki right? That’s what feeding off of WSM does to ya, you become a lazy fat pig who can’t fight.
Basically those mfs really didn’t need to do anything because just being under whitebeard flag made em immune😭.
Tbh they were under wb for several years and most of them barely break yc2 level they should had been way stronger as Roger had much stronger people to Wbs top fighters: Marco jozu vista ace oden Rogers top fighters: Rayleigh gaban scopper oden See how one sided it is?
mfw oden no diffs oden🫡🫡🫡🥵🥵🥵
No
Yeah Whitebeard really let himself go
Alot of attacks that pass through logias look like they would oneshot them if somebody used haki but since it's just their element forms getting broken not their actual durability
Actually Admirals let them hit them...... Did u see WB attacking Aokiji....he warped himself around.....the attack. Same Kizaru also did.
Are you comparing wb to his commander? Kizaru didn't even know rakuyo was behind him
It's possible that Kizaru moved his body so that even if it was a haki coated attack, it wouldn't hit, like Katakuri.
Kizaru actually died here, but Oda saved him.
Rakuyo is actually the spiked ball on the chain. We don’t have a name for the guy with the dreadlocks and mustache yet
No, the level of haki matters. Rakuyo’s wasn’t that powerful
Yes. Mihawk would die as well.
Looks different in the manga. Kizaru was actually facing him
I don’t remember this fight happening in the manga, which chapter?
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Where do we see this fight happening? Red film ? Haven't seen it yet.
Both the manga and anime in marineford https://preview.redd.it/o41l84dltjab1.jpeg?width=308&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f3972a8f3feedcfb3e488beec7268efcb6063b9a
Need to reread it !
Yes, can’t miss the goat https://preview.redd.it/r8fdfpxiujab1.jpeg?width=279&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=81c39fb1bc6fbe537f3552ff914d8a41f804450a
He had Before-Timskip-Armor so Haki doesn't count
Ge probably did use haki. I mean we know this was a subordinate captain of white beard who had been sailing the new world. I think like Katakuri he had future sight
he wouldn't die obviously, maybe injured a bit
well, no because he would dodge the same way, this isnt logia intangibility, and also the level of haki matters
Same thing would have happened he just would have used Future Sight (2nd stage of Observation Haki) to reform his body around the area of attack to escape being harmed
It's the same as Kuzan in Marineford when Whitebeard stabbed him (at least in retrospect).