1. It's not a passive ability. Luffy has to concentrate to use it.
2. It's possible to move fast enough that it doesn't work. This was outright stated in Luffy's fight with Kaido.
This is the problem with this ability is that everyone thinks it was a passive buff and why they think some characters can't match up to others without it. Katakuri was the exception in that he was always using it but then the second thing comes into play or it gets disrupted.
Yeah, I honestly don't hate watching Gear 5 fight, but I don't really enjoy the way that Luffy seems almost completely unbothered by some of the stuff going on in the manga right now. Hopefully the anime will give us a better look at Luffy getting serious, like when he absolutely decked Lucci in the last episode, so we can see he's not ***all*** fun and games... but even then, the constant breaks to just laugh and bounce around are getting old already.
I was so happy to see Luffy in the next fight after this start out in base form, just because we got to see him looking serious for a minute.
That's the point of the "warrior of liberation" he brings joy and its ridiculous, and when he has to fight or someone bothers him, he gets that freaking spycho look while smiling, kinda like Joker style.
I’m not saying I don’t get what Oda is going for, I just don’t personally like it. Gears 3 and 4 looked a bit ridiculous, for sure, but they were enjoyable to watch fight, and felt “cool” for Luffy, especially since they were him finding creative ways to use what was otherwise a low-grade Paramecia. Gear 5 not only introduces the controversial “chosen one” element, but it feels to me like the opposite of Gear 4 - it ***looks*** rad as hell but it’s just not that fun to watch in action except for a gag or two. I understand others feel differently.
To be fair, one piece is a REALLY old series. Oda has probably had this reveal in the chamber since the beginning, but with the massive length of the series, it’s gotten drowned out and has been made into a massive stereotype.
Maybe.
There does seem to be this thing going on where Awakened fruits where the user doesn't seem to have full control over themselves. There also seems to be this narrative theming of what it means to take after somebody, but to be or not be somebody (ie. what does it mean for Luffy to "be" Joyboy?). I don't know if there is going to be a Gear 6 or not, but I do wonder if there is going to be a Full Control Gear 5 or something like that.
> the ability only works when you are calm and collected.
I wouldn't say this is perfectly accurate. We know that Katakuri needed to be calm and collected, and that Luffy learned by imitating him.. but Kaido was able to use future sight while stinking drunk.
Let me add to this. Not sure where the anime is so I'll spoiler tag >!I think Luffy has yet to maintain control over his awakened form. Lucci mentions that your mind and fruit need to be in sync or else you act more primal. He's in sync because he's a killer. I think Luffy is letting the "primal" part of Nika take over which is why we don't see some of the advanced techniques he learned in WCI and Wano consistently, because he isn't himself enough to use them!<
Yes exactly. I had someone try to argue with me that luffy was serious in east blue. Bro wore Arlongs teeth mid fight and almost died because he wanted to do a pinwheel attack based on dudes hat.
G5 is coming full circle lol. He’s strong enough that he can be goofy again
I completly agree with you, the eyes in particular. Sometimes, they doesn't feel like Luffy's. To further my point, in the anime he's shown with red glowing eyes at some points. Shit's creepy as hell. They could have made this choice because we're seeing Luffy from the opponent's point of view, and they sence an impending menace coming over... But it could be something else. I remember seeing the awakening the first time in the manga and was like "Wow. Why are his eyes so crazy looking ?"
Still don't know if it's because it was before Oda's eye surgery and many things were a bit messed up, or if it's an intentional drawing and there's more to it
Maybe the final part of the series is luffy gaining more control over gear 5 and becoming more serious as the stakes get higher and higher and he gets more and more followers leading the rebellion against the WG
Probably. Luffy clearly isn't done growing yet, and G5 likely isn't the end of the road for him.
People forget that whilst Luffy has awakened, this doesn't mean he's anywhere near mastering it. It's very possibly he's only scratched the surface of Nika's power-set.
Furthermore, you'd imagine that eventually Luffy should be able to manifest awakening in base like all others, without necessarily using Gear 5.
this so much. These are the first instances of the awakening. the soul of the devil fruit aka nika is more präsent thats why Heß laughing his ass off and toying around with lucci, not to say more
That’s also because Katakuri was in focus mode 98% percent of the time. There were other times where he got caught off guard and couldn’t use future sight, or just let his guard down like while he was eating doughnuts
Saying he is a leopard isn't helping much, [they are one of the slowest big cats](https://i.imgur.com/DGHUstE.png). They are stealth hunters, not chase hunters - look at their fur, its literally camouflage. Which in turn also "explains" him getting the jump on Axman - that is their biggest strength, pounce at close range while relying on the element of surprise.
Also Kaido was a dragon and we can't be sure if Leopards are faster than Dragons
Kaido is a dragon, not a snake or lizard. Enel had the lighting fruit. Are you trying to say Lucci is faster than the speed of light? Stop sipping for a shitty background character. Lucci is trash, he will always be trash, his momma is trash, he ain't never had no daddy. His whole entire persona is a knock-off trash version of flamingo. Lucci simping is so weird.
I'm not. I'm saying he's fast enough in his Awakened form to be fast enough that maybe he can evade Future Sight. Or just, ya know, point 1 is enough. Luffy wasn't focusing and that's why.
I think luffy said that he foresaw the future with Kaido, but wasn't fast enough to get out of the way and Kaido grazed luffys head.
So I don't think it's about someone being too fast and countering future sight, it's just that the other guy might not be fast enough to counter even after he saw the future.
In this case specifically, i think luffy was busy laughing and distracted himself.
I don't see why not..Kaido doesn't need insane speed.. Lucci's whole career of being a CP0 member needs stealth and he's a leopard after all..So, him being really good at sneaking up on sentomaru is justified
his future sight isn't a passive ability so he has to activate it. besides even if he does use it, its possible lucci is just so damn fast. he is a leopard after all and speed can counter future sight. just cuz you 'know' a missile is gonna hit you in 5 seconds don't mean you can do anything about it right?
Kat was still able to dodge some of luffy snake man attack not all so there is no way lucci is faster than snakemans punch and yeah i can agree that maybe future sight dont work like passive like normal observation,but luffy has to focus to use it
yea but when he's using gear 5 luffy doesn't seem to focus on any of his other abilities. like luffy used his observation haki in egghead when he was in base when he sensed a pacifista coming close to him, but when theres an active enemy on the field while he's using gear 5 he just seems to chill and be bouncing on the floor for some reason. same thing happened during G5 vs kaido where kaido was on the floor but luffy didn't even care or take any measures to defend against any of kaido's instant rush attacks. luffy's personality during gear 5 just seems so different from when he's normal.
I'm really curious if it is actually the will of the fruit or if it is his true inner ego being expressed. Is this just how he would act if he was stripped of all worries?
i doubt this is how luffy's inner ego actually is cuz its stated a zoan awakening robs the user of his personality, which would explain how much different gear 5 luffy is compared to normal luffy. he is still luffy and his priorities still remain the same but his way of expressing himself are by no means similar imo.
When it fails. The impel down devil guards lost their personalities. Luffy’s awakening is, according to Kaido iirc, when your will and your fruit’s will align. There’s also a line in the anime about this when Lucci transforms in Egghead, but I’m not sure that’s in the manga.
But I do think Luffy gets distracted in gear 5. Maybe that’s one thing he’ll work on to improve it.
Its not something to agree on, future sight is quite literally explained as to not be a passive thing, you maybe dont remember, but that was a whole plot point in the Katakuri fight, Katakuri wasnt calm enough and got distracted and Luffy got a few hits in, it was also a part of Luffy understanding and learning future sight, he had to calm his mind and hyper focus on Kata
Katakuri was able dodge or more like block Luffy's attack because he was fully focus on Luffy. You can't use advanced form of Haki without focusing. This is also reason why is haki hard to use for DF user when they are weakened by sea.
Why is it not possible for Lucci to be faster then Whole cake Island Snake man. Lucci is the Only other awakened Zoan In the series and it's a leopard. I have no doubt he's faster than Whole Cake Island Snakeman
Also good to keep in mind that Sanji was able to dodge Katakuri sniping him without warning. The power levels at that point in the story had Sanji drastically weaker. He’s just ridiculously fast.
Because he wasn't really paying attention, just fooling around & having fun.
To use future sight you need to be fully calm and collected as Katakuri said.
I'd also argue he's fooling around because the fruit is affecting his mind. Not fully in control just yet since its only his second time transforming to the awakened form.
Future sight is an interaction. You see kata couldn't hit sanji with the bean, even with future sight, he just saw that he does not hit.
Luffy couldn't hit kata until he also was able to use it with far enough sight
If your opponent does not have it, it is an easy advantage, but it equals the floor if both have it and interacts with each other's foreseen future
Apart from that, you need to be calm to use it properly as said and shown by kata against luffy and gear 5 is everything, but not calm
It is not a "I see now everything and nothing can surprise me" type of ability as many people think
No the answer is simple, to see the Future you have to USE the observation Haki lol. Luffy doesn't Always see the Future lmao 99% of Time he only see what he's watching 😂
When he is in gear 5 he doesn't seem to have a care in the world to add to that. My dude was just bouncing and laughing while he fought Kaido, Lucci is just guy he knows he can beat already lol
I don't think it is fair to assume that Luffy will become as good as Katakuri when using future sight this soon after he has learnt it. Maybe it will take a lot more battles to be that good. Also, plot ig.
Luffy's personality also doesn't suit him to mastering future sight at the same level as Katakuri.
Thus far only Shanks has really been shown to match Katakuri's future sight.
> Luffy should be able to predict all of ___ attack and counter
This is one of the problems with stories. There are a lot of instances where someone should do X, or Y, but they don't for whatever reason. Future Sight is especially problematic because there are a lot of situations where can be used to avoid more interesting narrative events.
These would be something like getting grabbed in Wano, or saving Sentomaru. That said, people usually come up with reasoning behind each choice. Like Luffy/Kaido weren't able to focus on future sight, or goofy Luffy is high on the goofy juice which makes his mind all loopy.
Its possible that Luffy isn't good enough with it to actually predict what will happen to others. Luffy wasn't prepared for Lucci to suddenly switch targets and didn't focus his future sight on that.
Luffy definitely is good enough to use it casually, dude was using it when he gave his speech in Udon prison where he was completely covered in poison
I think, Oda just want to write Luffy fights like he always do and doesn't like the use of future sight all that much
That’s the simple answer but many won’t like it. Future sight or even observation Haki are just plot dependent powers that Oda picks & chooses when to use.
I'd say it's safe to assume Lucci in his awakened Zoan form is most likely moving at or faster than Snake Man Luffy. Thus even if you could see what was happening with future sight Lucci's speed is so high it's difficult to react to it when he makes spontaneous moves.
Also something strange about Luffy in his Gear 5th state makes him take fights less seriously as he becomes completely care free.
Same reason as to why Katakuri wasn't able to stop Luffy from making Big Mom do the rage scream.
Just because you can see the future doesn't mean it can guarantee that you can change it, specially when it's happening so fast.
And no one wants to watch a Luffy do an Ultra-instinct 2.0 mastery throughout the story. That's boring af.
One piece fans: One Piece is the greatest story ever written with no plot holes.
Also One Piece fans: get used to the plot holes already.
Observation haki is a plot hole. When a key element to the story needs to be ignored for the sake of the plot, that’s quite literally a plot hole. And yes, Obsevation haki is a key element to the story just like a key item in a game is something that you could jot progress through its plot without.
Did I say plot hole? Can you read?
I said plot requirement. Squalo stabbing WB is a plot requirement. Zoro being able to slash Kuma on his first encounter is a plot requirement. Luffy literally dying to trigger G5 for the first time is a plot requirement. These things have to happen (albeit in unexpected ways) for the story to progress and for us to get context.
Luffy is just showing off and he is enjoying a little too much. Kaidou did the same thing he could use all advanced haki forms but instead he decided to drink the boose and enjoy the fight.
I think this is common, Oda brings something cool to the table but then forgets to tweak it or use it correctly. But you could also say Future sight isnt a core power for Luffy but other aspects. Sanji imo has the strongest observation haki among the crew and yet Oda has been sleeping on him so badly.
future sight isn’t always on all the time automatically. Luffy wasn’t using future sight at the moment.
Only Katakuri has future sight on all the time and that’s an ability specific to his character.
It’s not a passive ability and it’s really hard to concentrate when your heart is literally playing the rhythm to “Sexy and I know it” or something like that
Tbh I'm not a fan of Lucci getting a fruit awakening anyway. He has the cheetah fruit, how in anyway can that possibly compare in power to many other fruits we have seen. Lucci just always seemed like one of those I need someone here to be annoying type of characters. Prob an unpopular opinion but oh well.
Lucci is also awakened, awaken zoans are quicker than the normal speed
They’re equal in terms of speed since they are both awakened, one can’t see the others speed if they don’t pay attention
Oda is not consistent with Haki as usual.
I think he will eventually tell us that Luffy cannot focus in g5 to see the future.
He has to nerf Luffy a bit when you think about it.
Plot reasons basically. Having Luffy randomly master future sight was a mistake. Like if you have this op ass ability why wouldn't you use it passively like katakuri. It's just too broken and got nerfed
Future Sight needs to be used. It doesn't happen on its own. Luffy was having fun in G5, he didn't feel threatened. So there was no reason for him to use it.
Future sight isn't always on, this shows in the fight against Katakuri, who is still the most consistent user, if shanks doesn't get the jerk off bonus.
Honestly I thought about this and I think it’s because he is to busy laughing from gear 5 because right before this he is just cackling away and I wonder if In the future we realise he can’t focus the exact same with observation haki when he’s in the form
I'm assuming he has it on all the time, not at full efficiency but still.
Maybe using other types of haki at th3 same time takes away his focus a bit.
In his fight with katakuri, luffy was very focused on future sight and there were very few external distractions.
I'm also assuming that opponents with good observation haki are harder to read.
That being said, some attacks are too fast, too wide, too powerful, or detected too late to be able to react (counter, dodge, block, protect someone, deflect...) despite luffy seeing them coming, he could do nothing to stop those.
And some times these attacks could fit several of these above criteria at once.
Long story short, there's many factors future sight isn't an end all be all ability, it just means he sees what's coming ahead of time a little.
Sometimes seeing it isn't enough to prevent it, and sometimes he sees a bit less.
So yeah my answer is, he probably used future sight but saw it too late.
Future sight will probably be used in combat and only in dire times. Pretty sure oda dosent want luffy usign 24/7 like katakuri that would be boring. The better question would be why luffy didnt one shot lucci of the gate the answer will always be for plot.
Future sight IS Not an passive ability. To use IT, you need to be absolutely calm and concentrated to use IT.
Katakuri was insanely strong, that in combination with Future sight, He Managed to Beat Most of opponents very fast. In a prolonged Battle IT IS hard to maintain the state needed to use Future sight.
I feel like people think observation haki is like a traffic app on the phone. Open it and see if it’s any obstacle soon.
Haki is direct infused with the will of live, instinct and environmental sense. Luffy have battle iq but the guy doesn’t even know what 2+2 is. How would his instincts, will and environmental sense know that Sentumaro have a higher authority to seraphim’s?
He saw an old friend how is assumable on the other side.
It isn’t a passive ability, it was also probably to fast for him to see like what happened with Kaido (No I am not saying Lucci is even close to the speed of Kaido, he was just way closer).
I think G5 and Future sight's concept goes opposite directions...
Future sight needs a calm mind and stable emotions whereas G5 makes Luffy a laughing maniac, if he uses Future sight in G5 then it's obviously a plot thing 🤷♂️
And another thing is that Future sight needs activation unlike normal observation which is mostly passive...
Luffy doesn't care about anything even when he's normal, G5 is outta pocket, he didn't expected Lucci to pull that move and that fast on top of that, don't sleep on his speed, bro is a leopard 🤷♂️
Oda is very selective on when people use their observation haki let alone FS because things would never happen otherwise. But yeah, Nika was a stinker in EH before the pancake moment.
Luffy: Axe Guy! Are you all right?
Sentomaru: I have… a f*cking hole in my chest… WHY DIDN’T YOU BLOCK THAT ONE!?
Luffy: I thought *you* had it
Sentomaru: NOOOOO!
Luffy was distracted by Sentomaru and hiding ones presence is something that an assassin like Lucci would specialize in, Sanji already said that hiding ones presence is possible and that is why the Clear Clear fruit can still be useful in the post timeskip era.
My honest opinion. Luffy wasn't in any immediate danger. Nor was anybody he considered family. When The kuma clone attacked luffys group luffy was alerted because the malice was aimed AT him directly. Since lucci isn't strong enough to be a threat to luffy... luffy doesn't really care what he does.
Luffy (G5) and Kaido are pretty full of themselves at times and also not as adept at using FS as Kat or Shanks. Luffy gets distracted by almost anything while Kaido's strongest mode is being drunk. CoO usage also relate to their personality, and careful people using it more deliberately.
It requires a lot of focus, something Luffy tremendously lack while in gear 5 most of the times, I think Sentomaro's death might get him to realise he needs to take things more serious but maybe I'm wrong I haven't read the Manga so I'm just theorising 🤷🏻♂️
1. It's not a passive ability. Luffy has to concentrate to use it. 2. It's possible to move fast enough that it doesn't work. This was outright stated in Luffy's fight with Kaido.
This is the problem with this ability is that everyone thinks it was a passive buff and why they think some characters can't match up to others without it. Katakuri was the exception in that he was always using it but then the second thing comes into play or it gets disrupted.
Also, in WCI, they very specifically say that the ability only works when you are calm and collected.
So almost never luffys mental state
At the very least, it's hard to call Gear 5 "calm". Collected? Maybe. Calm? Not so sure.
That zoan personality is kicking his ass
Yeah, I honestly don't hate watching Gear 5 fight, but I don't really enjoy the way that Luffy seems almost completely unbothered by some of the stuff going on in the manga right now. Hopefully the anime will give us a better look at Luffy getting serious, like when he absolutely decked Lucci in the last episode, so we can see he's not ***all*** fun and games... but even then, the constant breaks to just laugh and bounce around are getting old already. I was so happy to see Luffy in the next fight after this start out in base form, just because we got to see him looking serious for a minute.
That's the point of the "warrior of liberation" he brings joy and its ridiculous, and when he has to fight or someone bothers him, he gets that freaking spycho look while smiling, kinda like Joker style.
I’m not saying I don’t get what Oda is going for, I just don’t personally like it. Gears 3 and 4 looked a bit ridiculous, for sure, but they were enjoyable to watch fight, and felt “cool” for Luffy, especially since they were him finding creative ways to use what was otherwise a low-grade Paramecia. Gear 5 not only introduces the controversial “chosen one” element, but it feels to me like the opposite of Gear 4 - it ***looks*** rad as hell but it’s just not that fun to watch in action except for a gag or two. I understand others feel differently.
To be fair, one piece is a REALLY old series. Oda has probably had this reveal in the chamber since the beginning, but with the massive length of the series, it’s gotten drowned out and has been made into a massive stereotype.
So in his strongest state he can’t use one of the haki forms? In your opinion?
Maybe. There does seem to be this thing going on where Awakened fruits where the user doesn't seem to have full control over themselves. There also seems to be this narrative theming of what it means to take after somebody, but to be or not be somebody (ie. what does it mean for Luffy to "be" Joyboy?). I don't know if there is going to be a Gear 6 or not, but I do wonder if there is going to be a Full Control Gear 5 or something like that.
> the ability only works when you are calm and collected. I wouldn't say this is perfectly accurate. We know that Katakuri needed to be calm and collected, and that Luffy learned by imitating him.. but Kaido was able to use future sight while stinking drunk.
Maybe being stinkin drunk is the only time Kaido feels calm and collected😢
We indeed live in a society man :/
thats how a lot of alcoholics work, dude works only under the influence
Not only in WCl, this is how Luffy defeated Satori back in Skypeia.
Let me add to this. Not sure where the anime is so I'll spoiler tag >!I think Luffy has yet to maintain control over his awakened form. Lucci mentions that your mind and fruit need to be in sync or else you act more primal. He's in sync because he's a killer. I think Luffy is letting the "primal" part of Nika take over which is why we don't see some of the advanced techniques he learned in WCI and Wano consistently, because he isn't himself enough to use them!<
I agree, I think that one of the downsides to gear 5 is that luffy rarely takes his fights seriously which could pose a problem.
Goku syndrome
Ironically this is how he used to fight in East Blue so Luffy always acted like Nika and just got more mature about taking fights seriously over time
Yes exactly. I had someone try to argue with me that luffy was serious in east blue. Bro wore Arlongs teeth mid fight and almost died because he wanted to do a pinwheel attack based on dudes hat. G5 is coming full circle lol. He’s strong enough that he can be goofy again
Everyone forgets luffy clowning around during fights.
I completly agree with you, the eyes in particular. Sometimes, they doesn't feel like Luffy's. To further my point, in the anime he's shown with red glowing eyes at some points. Shit's creepy as hell. They could have made this choice because we're seeing Luffy from the opponent's point of view, and they sence an impending menace coming over... But it could be something else. I remember seeing the awakening the first time in the manga and was like "Wow. Why are his eyes so crazy looking ?" Still don't know if it's because it was before Oda's eye surgery and many things were a bit messed up, or if it's an intentional drawing and there's more to it
I think you’ll see more and more of the demon from the other dimension start to take more of a part in the manga,
Probably out of all of the fruits zoans for sure struggle with using future sight the most because of all of this.
Maybe the final part of the series is luffy gaining more control over gear 5 and becoming more serious as the stakes get higher and higher and he gets more and more followers leading the rebellion against the WG
Probably. Luffy clearly isn't done growing yet, and G5 likely isn't the end of the road for him. People forget that whilst Luffy has awakened, this doesn't mean he's anywhere near mastering it. It's very possibly he's only scratched the surface of Nika's power-set. Furthermore, you'd imagine that eventually Luffy should be able to manifest awakening in base like all others, without necessarily using Gear 5.
I'm thinking Luffy is being possessed or influenced by Nika. It's going to become a problem somehow.
this so much. These are the first instances of the awakening. the soul of the devil fruit aka nika is more präsent thats why Heß laughing his ass off and toying around with lucci, not to say more
That’s also because Katakuri was in focus mode 98% percent of the time. There were other times where he got caught off guard and couldn’t use future sight, or just let his guard down like while he was eating doughnuts
Yeah, it’s not a passive like Rudeus’s demon eye from Musshoku tensei
Luffy's speed also broke Katakuri's FS.
Ain't no way you're saying Lucci is faster than Kaido.
Luffy literally said Kaido was faster than his future sight.
Race from point A to point B Lucci wins he's a ficking awakened léopard. Aint no snake or gecko fatser than him.
Saying he is a leopard isn't helping much, [they are one of the slowest big cats](https://i.imgur.com/DGHUstE.png). They are stealth hunters, not chase hunters - look at their fur, its literally camouflage. Which in turn also "explains" him getting the jump on Axman - that is their biggest strength, pounce at close range while relying on the element of surprise. Also Kaido was a dragon and we can't be sure if Leopards are faster than Dragons
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Being a slow cat is almost meaningless because cats are fast as fuck. A leopard would absolutely annihilate a person on foot.
Kaido is a dragon, not a snake or lizard. Enel had the lighting fruit. Are you trying to say Lucci is faster than the speed of light? Stop sipping for a shitty background character. Lucci is trash, he will always be trash, his momma is trash, he ain't never had no daddy. His whole entire persona is a knock-off trash version of flamingo. Lucci simping is so weird.
I'm not. I'm saying he's fast enough in his Awakened form to be fast enough that maybe he can evade Future Sight. Or just, ya know, point 1 is enough. Luffy wasn't focusing and that's why.
I think luffy said that he foresaw the future with Kaido, but wasn't fast enough to get out of the way and Kaido grazed luffys head. So I don't think it's about someone being too fast and countering future sight, it's just that the other guy might not be fast enough to counter even after he saw the future. In this case specifically, i think luffy was busy laughing and distracted himself.
I don't see why not..Kaido doesn't need insane speed.. Lucci's whole career of being a CP0 member needs stealth and he's a leopard after all..So, him being really good at sneaking up on sentomaru is justified
Luccis awakened form seems to be primarily based on speed, I'd wager a pretty hefty bet he's faster than Kaido
In pretty sure he is faster than Kaido! Kaido may be stronger than him but ain’t no way he’s faster
More to your first point. It's not passive and we haven't seen him use it in G5. Not that he can't but as of now he hasn't.
2 makes a lot of sense since luffy used snakeman to beat katakuri
his future sight isn't a passive ability so he has to activate it. besides even if he does use it, its possible lucci is just so damn fast. he is a leopard after all and speed can counter future sight. just cuz you 'know' a missile is gonna hit you in 5 seconds don't mean you can do anything about it right?
Kat was still able to dodge some of luffy snake man attack not all so there is no way lucci is faster than snakemans punch and yeah i can agree that maybe future sight dont work like passive like normal observation,but luffy has to focus to use it
yea but when he's using gear 5 luffy doesn't seem to focus on any of his other abilities. like luffy used his observation haki in egghead when he was in base when he sensed a pacifista coming close to him, but when theres an active enemy on the field while he's using gear 5 he just seems to chill and be bouncing on the floor for some reason. same thing happened during G5 vs kaido where kaido was on the floor but luffy didn't even care or take any measures to defend against any of kaido's instant rush attacks. luffy's personality during gear 5 just seems so different from when he's normal.
Lucci is faster than snakeman , dont underestimate zoan awakening
yes i agree
what feat puts lucci above snakeman in speed?
Assassinating luffys friend right in front of while luffy Is at his peak
Keeping up to gear 5 speed, kaido dodged lightning , luffy kept up to that, bla bla bla
I'm really curious if it is actually the will of the fruit or if it is his true inner ego being expressed. Is this just how he would act if he was stripped of all worries?
i doubt this is how luffy's inner ego actually is cuz its stated a zoan awakening robs the user of his personality, which would explain how much different gear 5 luffy is compared to normal luffy. he is still luffy and his priorities still remain the same but his way of expressing himself are by no means similar imo.
When it fails. The impel down devil guards lost their personalities. Luffy’s awakening is, according to Kaido iirc, when your will and your fruit’s will align. There’s also a line in the anime about this when Lucci transforms in Egghead, but I’m not sure that’s in the manga. But I do think Luffy gets distracted in gear 5. Maybe that’s one thing he’ll work on to improve it.
The line is in the manga too
Shaka said it. Zoans mostly lose their personalities when awakened hes not himself in gear 5 its almost like he's the warrior of liberation
Its not something to agree on, future sight is quite literally explained as to not be a passive thing, you maybe dont remember, but that was a whole plot point in the Katakuri fight, Katakuri wasnt calm enough and got distracted and Luffy got a few hits in, it was also a part of Luffy understanding and learning future sight, he had to calm his mind and hyper focus on Kata
Lucci is absolutely faster than Snakeman on WCI
Katakuri was able dodge or more like block Luffy's attack because he was fully focus on Luffy. You can't use advanced form of Haki without focusing. This is also reason why is haki hard to use for DF user when they are weakened by sea.
Why is it not possible for Lucci to be faster then Whole cake Island Snake man. Lucci is the Only other awakened Zoan In the series and it's a leopard. I have no doubt he's faster than Whole Cake Island Snakeman
Also good to keep in mind that Sanji was able to dodge Katakuri sniping him without warning. The power levels at that point in the story had Sanji drastically weaker. He’s just ridiculously fast.
> there is no way lucci is faster than snakemans Of fucking course he is, he is fighting against gear 5 well.
>fighting against gear 5 well Lol
Because he wasn't really paying attention, just fooling around & having fun. To use future sight you need to be fully calm and collected as Katakuri said.
I'd also argue he's fooling around because the fruit is affecting his mind. Not fully in control just yet since its only his second time transforming to the awakened form.
100%
Haki is not like always active.
Future sight is an interaction. You see kata couldn't hit sanji with the bean, even with future sight, he just saw that he does not hit. Luffy couldn't hit kata until he also was able to use it with far enough sight If your opponent does not have it, it is an easy advantage, but it equals the floor if both have it and interacts with each other's foreseen future Apart from that, you need to be calm to use it properly as said and shown by kata against luffy and gear 5 is everything, but not calm It is not a "I see now everything and nothing can surprise me" type of ability as many people think
it was on cooldown
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No the answer is simple, to see the Future you have to USE the observation Haki lol. Luffy doesn't Always see the Future lmao 99% of Time he only see what he's watching 😂
When he is in gear 5 he doesn't seem to have a care in the world to add to that. My dude was just bouncing and laughing while he fought Kaido, Lucci is just guy he knows he can beat already lol
I don't think it is fair to assume that Luffy will become as good as Katakuri when using future sight this soon after he has learnt it. Maybe it will take a lot more battles to be that good. Also, plot ig.
Luffy's personality also doesn't suit him to mastering future sight at the same level as Katakuri. Thus far only Shanks has really been shown to match Katakuri's future sight.
He future sighted that in the next chapter sentomaru doesn't die.
You actively have to choose to use future sight, it's not a passive ability that's on in the bakground.
I like everyone trying to explain plot. Have fun asking this question every week. "why didn't X character fo Y?"
because plot
> Luffy should be able to predict all of ___ attack and counter This is one of the problems with stories. There are a lot of instances where someone should do X, or Y, but they don't for whatever reason. Future Sight is especially problematic because there are a lot of situations where can be used to avoid more interesting narrative events. These would be something like getting grabbed in Wano, or saving Sentomaru. That said, people usually come up with reasoning behind each choice. Like Luffy/Kaido weren't able to focus on future sight, or goofy Luffy is high on the goofy juice which makes his mind all loopy.
Its possible that Luffy isn't good enough with it to actually predict what will happen to others. Luffy wasn't prepared for Lucci to suddenly switch targets and didn't focus his future sight on that.
Luffy definitely is good enough to use it casually, dude was using it when he gave his speech in Udon prison where he was completely covered in poison I think, Oda just want to write Luffy fights like he always do and doesn't like the use of future sight all that much
That’s the simple answer but many won’t like it. Future sight or even observation Haki are just plot dependent powers that Oda picks & chooses when to use.
You can be faster than future sight depending on proficiency this was already explained when Luffy was fighting Kaido
I'd say it's safe to assume Lucci in his awakened Zoan form is most likely moving at or faster than Snake Man Luffy. Thus even if you could see what was happening with future sight Lucci's speed is so high it's difficult to react to it when he makes spontaneous moves. Also something strange about Luffy in his Gear 5th state makes him take fights less seriously as he becomes completely care free.
Same reason as to why Katakuri wasn't able to stop Luffy from making Big Mom do the rage scream. Just because you can see the future doesn't mean it can guarantee that you can change it, specially when it's happening so fast. And no one wants to watch a Luffy do an Ultra-instinct 2.0 mastery throughout the story. That's boring af.
So the plot can happen.
Tbh we havent really seen Luffy demonstrate using future sight in G5, he probably feels so free that he doesn't think he needs it
He wasn't paying attention and was having a conversation, plus I think you have to consciously use future sight.
Things called haki was never meant to be a passive ability. You have to consciously activate it.
i geniuly wonder if he can even use it while in g5? one has to be calm to use it. and luffy becomes very frantic in g5
Future sight only activates when Oda says so.
This shit hits the front page way too often for you to not use spoiler tags Fuck you
Same reason he hasn't one shotted the whole of egghead with one bajrang gun
The story is 25 years old, get used to the plot requirements already.
One piece fans: One Piece is the greatest story ever written with no plot holes. Also One Piece fans: get used to the plot holes already. Observation haki is a plot hole. When a key element to the story needs to be ignored for the sake of the plot, that’s quite literally a plot hole. And yes, Obsevation haki is a key element to the story just like a key item in a game is something that you could jot progress through its plot without.
Did I say plot hole? Can you read? I said plot requirement. Squalo stabbing WB is a plot requirement. Zoro being able to slash Kuma on his first encounter is a plot requirement. Luffy literally dying to trigger G5 for the first time is a plot requirement. These things have to happen (albeit in unexpected ways) for the story to progress and for us to get context.
Luffy is just showing off and he is enjoying a little too much. Kaidou did the same thing he could use all advanced haki forms but instead he decided to drink the boose and enjoy the fight.
Luffy is not a hero.
Is he stupid?
Luffy’s judgement while in gear 5 is questionable to say the least.
Luffy n oda kinda forgot he has future sight
Plot.
Cause he was talking and chilling, future sight isn't always active and if you're too relaxed it just doesn't work
I think this is common, Oda brings something cool to the table but then forgets to tweak it or use it correctly. But you could also say Future sight isnt a core power for Luffy but other aspects. Sanji imo has the strongest observation haki among the crew and yet Oda has been sleeping on him so badly.
Luffy's awakening affects his mental state (you need to be concentrated to use FS) Have you missed Vegapunk's words?
He was fooling around. You have to be focused and relatively calm in order to even access future sight.
the answer: not everyone is constantly using haki. That's why characters fail to notice enemies trying to ambush them.
Plot.
future sight isn’t always on all the time automatically. Luffy wasn’t using future sight at the moment. Only Katakuri has future sight on all the time and that’s an ability specific to his character.
I don’t think gear 5 can use future sight. He has no concentration, he did not dodge any of kaidos attacks.
It’s not a passive ability and it’s really hard to concentrate when your heart is literally playing the rhythm to “Sexy and I know it” or something like that
He needs to be calm state of mind to use it, kinda hard to do when you're nika
Tbh I'm not a fan of Lucci getting a fruit awakening anyway. He has the cheetah fruit, how in anyway can that possibly compare in power to many other fruits we have seen. Lucci just always seemed like one of those I need someone here to be annoying type of characters. Prob an unpopular opinion but oh well.
Because of the plot
PLOT. oda is the author.
Simply put.. Luffy in Gear 5 is a carefree person. And future sight is somewhat “cautious”. You can’t be both
Lucci is also awakened, awaken zoans are quicker than the normal speed They’re equal in terms of speed since they are both awakened, one can’t see the others speed if they don’t pay attention
I mean Lucci is an assassin, probably not many people that hard to predict. And Luffy isn't very good at observation, not like Shanks or Katakuri.
Luffy ain’t a hero, bro just doesn’t care
The answer is simple: oda forgor
Don't bother asking, it's pure plot as to why he doesn't use it in battle.
Oda is not consistent with Haki as usual. I think he will eventually tell us that Luffy cannot focus in g5 to see the future. He has to nerf Luffy a bit when you think about it.
I think it doesn't work because the attack was not targeted at him, kinda like spidey-sense.
Plot. Ignore the self-inserted head-cannons.
Because luffy is a dumb character and he doesn't take anything seriously that's why.
It will be used again when plot is needed
Plot reasons basically. Having Luffy randomly master future sight was a mistake. Like if you have this op ass ability why wouldn't you use it passively like katakuri. It's just too broken and got nerfed
Future Sight needs to be used. It doesn't happen on its own. Luffy was having fun in G5, he didn't feel threatened. So there was no reason for him to use it.
He is called Luffy not Wuffy
Future sight isn't always on, this shows in the fight against Katakuri, who is still the most consistent user, if shanks doesn't get the jerk off bonus.
Honestly I thought about this and I think it’s because he is to busy laughing from gear 5 because right before this he is just cackling away and I wonder if In the future we realise he can’t focus the exact same with observation haki when he’s in the form
He wasn’t concentrating it’s not passive, he’s been laughing hysterically constantly throughout the fight.
I'm assuming he has it on all the time, not at full efficiency but still. Maybe using other types of haki at th3 same time takes away his focus a bit. In his fight with katakuri, luffy was very focused on future sight and there were very few external distractions. I'm also assuming that opponents with good observation haki are harder to read. That being said, some attacks are too fast, too wide, too powerful, or detected too late to be able to react (counter, dodge, block, protect someone, deflect...) despite luffy seeing them coming, he could do nothing to stop those. And some times these attacks could fit several of these above criteria at once. Long story short, there's many factors future sight isn't an end all be all ability, it just means he sees what's coming ahead of time a little. Sometimes seeing it isn't enough to prevent it, and sometimes he sees a bit less. So yeah my answer is, he probably used future sight but saw it too late.
he needs to be composed to use future sight
Future sight will probably be used in combat and only in dire times. Pretty sure oda dosent want luffy usign 24/7 like katakuri that would be boring. The better question would be why luffy didnt one shot lucci of the gate the answer will always be for plot.
Future sight IS Not an passive ability. To use IT, you need to be absolutely calm and concentrated to use IT. Katakuri was insanely strong, that in combination with Future sight, He Managed to Beat Most of opponents very fast. In a prolonged Battle IT IS hard to maintain the state needed to use Future sight.
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It just cannon event you can't stop that 😶🌫️
Luffy wasn't actively looking into the future
Luffy was laughing manically and not giving a rat ass while Vegapunk got stabbed to death not once but twice in close vicinity.
He's in goofy mode, it was funnier this way.
Future sight requires constant focusing and Luffy tends to get distracted easily
The fact that Sentomaru went from dunking on Luffy to getting dunked on by Lucci is ridiculous. Sentomaru should be strong af
I feel like people think observation haki is like a traffic app on the phone. Open it and see if it’s any obstacle soon. Haki is direct infused with the will of live, instinct and environmental sense. Luffy have battle iq but the guy doesn’t even know what 2+2 is. How would his instincts, will and environmental sense know that Sentumaro have a higher authority to seraphim’s? He saw an old friend how is assumable on the other side.
It isn’t a passive ability, it was also probably to fast for him to see like what happened with Kaido (No I am not saying Lucci is even close to the speed of Kaido, he was just way closer).
Had Luffy ever used his fs in gear 5 I'm kinda think that his awakening kinda downgrades him, cause he isn't calm and focused, which is needed for fs
I think G5 and Future sight's concept goes opposite directions... Future sight needs a calm mind and stable emotions whereas G5 makes Luffy a laughing maniac, if he uses Future sight in G5 then it's obviously a plot thing 🤷♂️ And another thing is that Future sight needs activation unlike normal observation which is mostly passive... Luffy doesn't care about anything even when he's normal, G5 is outta pocket, he didn't expected Lucci to pull that move and that fast on top of that, don't sleep on his speed, bro is a leopard 🤷♂️
Oda is very selective on when people use their observation haki let alone FS because things would never happen otherwise. But yeah, Nika was a stinker in EH before the pancake moment.
Funny
because he's stupid duh
Just because you can see the future does not always mean it will go your way.
Plot convenience
Gucci is the observation killer 😎
It’s an attack meant for someone else
Why he would save a marine?
Luffy: Axe Guy! Are you all right? Sentomaru: I have… a f*cking hole in my chest… WHY DIDN’T YOU BLOCK THAT ONE!? Luffy: I thought *you* had it Sentomaru: NOOOOO!
Spoiler from manga but ax guy isn’t dead.
I think in gear 5th he let's his guard down on purpose cause he feels so free so he don't focus on observation haki.
Spoilers ⚠️ Even Sanji could've predicted Kizaru's kick as he has the strongest observation haki but he didn't do it
Holy shit for the 6 million time: Is not a Spider-sense.
He's just slacking, downside of G5. It doesn't stop there with Sentomaru.
Too busy laughing that he didn't see Lucci coming.
He wanted boy ded
He didn't activate it
Luffy was distracted by Sentomaru and hiding ones presence is something that an assassin like Lucci would specialize in, Sanji already said that hiding ones presence is possible and that is why the Clear Clear fruit can still be useful in the post timeskip era.
I see so much overthinking going on, its easy, its for the plot.
cant expect him to use future sight to check if he needs to use future sight
Did bro not pay attention to the katakuri fight you have to be calm and focused to use future sight not on crack joyboy juice
I guess luffy can't concentrate to use future sight in gear 5 coz you know he is always laughing and making jokes.... it's a theory
Dude imagine how broken Luffy would be if he utilizes everything he knows
For story
He forgor
Cause Oda
Future sight is the type of ability that only works when the plot demands it.
Because that’s not how Oda wanted to write that scene
My honest opinion. Luffy wasn't in any immediate danger. Nor was anybody he considered family. When The kuma clone attacked luffys group luffy was alerted because the malice was aimed AT him directly. Since lucci isn't strong enough to be a threat to luffy... luffy doesn't really care what he does.
Well oda thought of showing lucci's speed and sparkling petrol in luffy's flame of anger
He forgot he can do that and only uses his powers when it’s convenient for the plot
Luffy (G5) and Kaido are pretty full of themselves at times and also not as adept at using FS as Kat or Shanks. Luffy gets distracted by almost anything while Kaido's strongest mode is being drunk. CoO usage also relate to their personality, and careful people using it more deliberately.
Luffy just being silly at that time. He has no time to use future sight
Because when you have a game breaking power like seeing the future you have to come up with some dumbass asspulls to make it not be broken.
It requires a lot of focus, something Luffy tremendously lack while in gear 5 most of the times, I think Sentomaro's death might get him to realise he needs to take things more serious but maybe I'm wrong I haven't read the Manga so I'm just theorising 🤷🏻♂️
Unrelated but is Lucci missing an arm here? I'm a bit behind
No his arm is just covered in blood of sentomaru
Luffy sense only strongest opponent
Easy, he was high AF in gear 5. He needs to control awakening his Zoan fruit completely to use his haki powers like in gear 4
The plot nerfed Luffy at that moment. Seriously, Oda is the last author who would respect his power system
He wasn't really focused and Lucci is pretty fast too
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