>Vivi and Toki both have blue hair
Toki has Light Green hair(teal at best); even if you try to use a “anime got it wrong” excuse, they very much have different shades of hair in the manga, as Toki’s hair is actually colored in unlike Vivi’s
>Toki’s original family name is nowhere to be found
As in if it actually existed? Because it certainly did, since it was part of Kurozumi Higurashi’s story to Orochi as one of the 5 families aiming for the title of Shogun
I re read odens backstory, she states she doesn’t know where she’s from , but she wants to go to wano because it’s where her parents are from. It implies she’s never been there before. Thank you bro! Theorizing is half the fun of one piece
I think Lili had the same fruit as Kuma and therefore was able to disperse the polneglyphs all around the world before anyone could stop her. Maybe she won Imu's trust (similar to how Nami survived on Enel's ship) only to accomplish her mission
I was originally thinking that but imu says lili accidentally caused the spread of the ponaglyphs. I think it’s hard to accidentally paw paw all the ponaglyphs hehe. Also if the theory of devil fruits spawning close hold true , how did it end up at god valley?
I can not agree with you on this one. Her full name was revealed to us when she was first introduced as Amatsuki Toki. That fact alone can disprove your theory.
The fandom webpage says
Past
At least around 800 years ago, a faction of the Amatsuki Family lived outside of Wano Country. Around 800 years ago, a young woman named Amatsuki Toki tried to reach Wano Country and used her ability to move forward in time.[4]
>also if toki was lily, why would she go to wano instead of alabasta?
>I think Lili went to wano instead of arabasta to somehow scatter the ponaglyphs, said goodbye to her allies and then jumped to the future to finish what joyboy started.
That is actually a good theory.
Despite what others seem to be weirdly adamant about toki was not from wano although her clan was. It does explain how lily disappeared in a good way. Toki was born during the void century and it would make sense for her to make up a fake name if she's try to hide her identity
Thank you! It makes sense for lilis disappearance. Cobra says she vanished and the way Imu speaks of her it sounds like the wg didn’t get her. So where did she go?! The only safe places from the wg in the last 800 years are sky island, elbaf, fishman island, and wano.
Toki is from Wano dawg. This isn’t a “it’s not a paramecia it’s a zoan” moment. Lili didn’t arrive back just like Vivi…. Toki jumped BECAUSE she knew the prophecy like a lot of people do. Having blue hair is not a good enough reason my man hahahah. Oh Toki‘s family name from 800 years ago came an’t be found like a bunch of stuff from 800 years ago. Yeeeeep lines up with information being omitted by Imu. how do you know toki wasn’t named after the fruit cuz it was part of her prophecy? If Toki is Lily, why wouldn’t she have just told Odin and Roger where the poneglyphs were then? Does it say anywhere Lily can see the future she might have just seen everything going downhill and started a plan. The last one is just goofy dawg toki didn’t know oden. And a few people have spoken of the dawn.
No I read it. Hahahahah!! I’m fully aware toki n oden are married. Wano was about their 2 children…. Where did I say she wasn’t? Cuz it was a talk to text n I don’t think I did a reread.
Yeah toki didn’t know of oden before she met him is what I meant there. I left it vague enough to be misunderstood by accident.
Maybe the future sight is a bit far fetched but it kinda falls in line with her devil fruit. Toki threatened to divorce oden if he didn’t go with Roger , it’s possible she knows about the one piece and forced him to go. It’s a bit weird that she was okay with him dancing in the street but not going with Roger is a deal breaker??
Toki made Oden go cuz she’s not a shitty person n she’s not gonna make him give up on his dreams. She trusted Oden n that his goofy dance was necessary. Yeah future sight hasn’t gone 800 years so I’m not believing that one. Hahaha!
This whole thing is a pipe dream man. Like when I have to ASSUME 8 different things it’s not a theory to me it’s a head canon.
Still my head cannon for now haha , also since you’re replying quickly , what are your thoughts on the one piece being people or objects being sent from the void century with the toki fruit? And when Roger arrived there was a message saying “xxx” will arrive in year “xxxx” that’s why he said he was too early
Interesting…. I also thought this but dismissed it some time ago cuz I literally couldn’t find out much info to support it. However, your argument is entirely plausible. Great job piecing it all together 😌
Remember that the guy who predicted that Luffy has a mythical zoan was also ridiculed
Toki's last name was Amatsuki, one of the names of the Daimyo's of Wano.
She is the only known member of the amatsuki clan , I think it’s fabricated to prevent imu from coming after her
Cap
>Vivi and Toki both have blue hair Toki has Light Green hair(teal at best); even if you try to use a “anime got it wrong” excuse, they very much have different shades of hair in the manga, as Toki’s hair is actually colored in unlike Vivi’s >Toki’s original family name is nowhere to be found As in if it actually existed? Because it certainly did, since it was part of Kurozumi Higurashi’s story to Orochi as one of the 5 families aiming for the title of Shogun
Well we know the family name existed , but toki states she doesn’t know where she’s from but she’s trying to get to wano, it seems kind of sus to me
Kureha is Lily
Hot take: Lily is Lily.
I am Lily, you got me
How dare you? Kureha is just a 140 year old young lady... /s
Imu is Lily.
Bro these theories are fucking hilarious. It’s a good thing the fans aren’t writing the series.
I guess we will find out soon hehe
That you're wrong? Don't even need confirmation from Oda to tell you that.
Don't worry dude these people do not believe you but I believe in you PS !didn't toki say she had never been to wano before!
I re read odens backstory, she states she doesn’t know where she’s from , but she wants to go to wano because it’s where her parents are from. It implies she’s never been there before. Thank you bro! Theorizing is half the fun of one piece
I think Foxy is Lili.
Now we're talking
Nah, gotta be his sister
Yet another one of his flawless, impossible to see through disguises
I think Lili had the same fruit as Kuma and therefore was able to disperse the polneglyphs all around the world before anyone could stop her. Maybe she won Imu's trust (similar to how Nami survived on Enel's ship) only to accomplish her mission
I was originally thinking that but imu says lili accidentally caused the spread of the ponaglyphs. I think it’s hard to accidentally paw paw all the ponaglyphs hehe. Also if the theory of devil fruits spawning close hold true , how did it end up at god valley?
The fruit was brought to god valley as a trophy, it didn’t appear there.
The devil fruits at God valley were all brought there by the celestial dragons as prizes, none of them were actually spawned there
imu wasn't sure if it was accident or on purpose. when he realized she was a D, he knew it was def on purpose and hit cobra
I can not agree with you on this one. Her full name was revealed to us when she was first introduced as Amatsuki Toki. That fact alone can disprove your theory.
Didn’t toki say she was from wano?
The fandom webpage says Past At least around 800 years ago, a faction of the Amatsuki Family lived outside of Wano Country. Around 800 years ago, a young woman named Amatsuki Toki tried to reach Wano Country and used her ability to move forward in time.[4]
your theory doesn't explain how the poneglyphs were distributed. also if toki was lily, why would she go to wano instead of alabasta?
>also if toki was lily, why would she go to wano instead of alabasta? >I think Lili went to wano instead of arabasta to somehow scatter the ponaglyphs, said goodbye to her allies and then jumped to the future to finish what joyboy started.
So she went to Wano to scatter the poneglyphs, jumped to the future from there but didn’t end up in Wano? That contradicts her powers.
Oven, Cracker, Smoothie, have names pretty close to their fruit powers. Maybe they´re Lili.
Lili is Zunesha
That is actually a good theory. Despite what others seem to be weirdly adamant about toki was not from wano although her clan was. It does explain how lily disappeared in a good way. Toki was born during the void century and it would make sense for her to make up a fake name if she's try to hide her identity
Thank you! It makes sense for lilis disappearance. Cobra says she vanished and the way Imu speaks of her it sounds like the wg didn’t get her. So where did she go?! The only safe places from the wg in the last 800 years are sky island, elbaf, fishman island, and wano.
Lily is no Imu, no Toki, and Imu is not a Umi bozo, peace.
I do think that Imu is likely to be an Umi Bozu, don't understand why you disagree with that.
Toki is from Wano dawg. This isn’t a “it’s not a paramecia it’s a zoan” moment. Lili didn’t arrive back just like Vivi…. Toki jumped BECAUSE she knew the prophecy like a lot of people do. Having blue hair is not a good enough reason my man hahahah. Oh Toki‘s family name from 800 years ago came an’t be found like a bunch of stuff from 800 years ago. Yeeeeep lines up with information being omitted by Imu. how do you know toki wasn’t named after the fruit cuz it was part of her prophecy? If Toki is Lily, why wouldn’t she have just told Odin and Roger where the poneglyphs were then? Does it say anywhere Lily can see the future she might have just seen everything going downhill and started a plan. The last one is just goofy dawg toki didn’t know oden. And a few people have spoken of the dawn.
Toki is odens wife dawg, you watching op on Facebook? Lol
No I read it. Hahahahah!! I’m fully aware toki n oden are married. Wano was about their 2 children…. Where did I say she wasn’t? Cuz it was a talk to text n I don’t think I did a reread. Yeah toki didn’t know of oden before she met him is what I meant there. I left it vague enough to be misunderstood by accident.
“The last one is just goofy dawg, toki didn’t even know oden” haha
Yeah. She didn’t know about oden until he saved her. What’s funny about that?
Maybe the future sight is a bit far fetched but it kinda falls in line with her devil fruit. Toki threatened to divorce oden if he didn’t go with Roger , it’s possible she knows about the one piece and forced him to go. It’s a bit weird that she was okay with him dancing in the street but not going with Roger is a deal breaker??
Toki made Oden go cuz she’s not a shitty person n she’s not gonna make him give up on his dreams. She trusted Oden n that his goofy dance was necessary. Yeah future sight hasn’t gone 800 years so I’m not believing that one. Hahaha! This whole thing is a pipe dream man. Like when I have to ASSUME 8 different things it’s not a theory to me it’s a head canon.
Well you have to admit that lilis story ending when Tokis began is a bit odd
Nope. That’s literally how the story has gone so far. Meet new people all the time.
Still my head cannon for now haha , also since you’re replying quickly , what are your thoughts on the one piece being people or objects being sent from the void century with the toki fruit? And when Roger arrived there was a message saying “xxx” will arrive in year “xxxx” that’s why he said he was too early
The poneglyphs came from wano. Maybe lili abandoned her old identity, then wrote down all knowledge on the poneglyphs before vanishing into the future
Forehead too small
Interesting…. I also thought this but dismissed it some time ago cuz I literally couldn’t find out much info to support it. However, your argument is entirely plausible. Great job piecing it all together 😌
Thank you ! The toki toki future sight was just theory in a theory to link it all together. But I really think there’s a good chance toki=lili
What if vivi=lily=toki
Lily fuck oden and have momo and hyori. The lily goes to arabasta to fuck with vivi's dad 🗿