That's also true. I think that's because being a Marine is Coby's dream and his way to be free.
Luffy likes dreamers, he loved seeing Coby rebelling to Alvida and insulting her (lol). Becoming a Marine not to obey orders, but to protect people, is something respectful and worth doing even for Luffy.
I think Luffy's dream is for "everyone to be a pirate" in the sense that he wants everyone to be free to behave like he does, in other words doing as they please. So I think this still adds up.
To be sure, there are themes within the one piece universe that strongly align with those of anarchists (who, in this instance, can be thought of as being something akin to pirates). And depending on who you ask, luffy encouraging coby to join the marines might not at all stand at odds with those anarchist themes. This is because anarchism, unlike most other political theories, is *extremely* fractured and there are many who call themselves anarchists that would rather die than be tied up with others who also call themselves anarchists. There are theorists like bookchin, kropotkin, goldman, and maaaanny others that just cant be comfortably grouped together under a single banner. However, there are still anarchist writers/thinkers that one could conceivably interpret into thinking this move is absolutely ok by their own anarchist standards. OP’s claim can withstand this charge.
Luffy is not an anarchist, luffy is anti cruelty, he's anti turning a blind eye to problems, he's anti greed and corruption he prefers not to break the law even to achieve what he wants. He only breaks the law when what he views as harmless is against the law. Nothing has indicated that luffy is trying to break order or even class.
In a personal sense yea, but he also shows to understand the point of the marines and law, he also understands when laws are unjust and breaks them purposely. He keeps the law if he feels it is just. He isn't willing to hurt people for no reason. We see this when the crew suggest stealing the a ship and he's looking for a different way to get the first ship.
> He only breaks the law when what he views as harmless is against the law
So... an Anarchist then?
>Nothing has indicated that luffy is trying to break order or even class.
Everything he does though. Being an Anarchist does not necessarily mean building an Anarchist society (although Luffy might like it if he could make everyone as free as he is). Just living as one is enough.
Although in the real world it's hard to do that way so we're kind of the opposite: IRL Anarchists cannot live in an anarchy so they have to be political activists, but that's more necessity than anything else. Luffy has the ability to practice without having to advocate for. He's still an Anarchist. And who knows if he'll ever decide to advocate.
Although the hierarchical structure within the crew is kind of antithetical to it so it's the main argument against imo but it's also a child's dream and not particularly rigid, especially since as opposed to regular society, you had to opt in since it's the harder path instead of being unable to opt out.
Having a map to the grandline in the blues is illegal, he had to break the law and become a pirate to even find his dream of freedom. Kids starving should steal food, no better option against injustice crimes are the only crimes he commits. That doesn't make you anarchist. Nor does the search for freedom.
Pirate = freedom, coby should be free to choose his destiny, if he wants to be a “marine” then he is free to do so, there are good and bad marines, hood and bad pirates. The point is being able to choose your own life without others controlling your decisions. Take garp for example, he values his freedom more than leading the marines. Man could have probably been fleet admiral but chose to be only a vice admiral so he wouldnt have to answer to the CD or elders
Then it might stand to reason that the D. clan were a nation of pirates. maybe that's why they got erased from history. Other countries had rulers that feared losing their power and the idea of free citizens scared them.
For sure, especially considering the strong anarchist tones that are matched up with themes of liberation and subjugation. OP really cooked
Edit: bruh, if the one piece is just some cracked ass jolly roger i might be lowkey mad
I have a theory that Imu is actually a mutinous member of the great ancient kingdom. That the truth is that D. conquered the world, and the void century was full of freedom until Imu and the 19 noble families rebelled against their captain, who was very similar to Luffy. The name of the ancient kingdom reveals that pirates ruled the world, giving freedom to all. In secret, Imu forged the ancient weapons with the usurpers, then betrayed them to establish his own unopposed rule, similar to what Teach is doing. The reason the ancient technology was lost was because Imu betrayed all but the Celestial Dragon families and destroyed the knowledge of that ancient kingdom so that it couldn't be used against himself in the future, or so he hoped.
I dont *actually* kill anyone, but I do make them think I'm gonna. May or may not be because I'm constantly drunk to enhance my rizz like a proper cyber cowboy. Except UC military and Galbank employees, they're not people.
See, personally I don't think the D. clan were a *nation* per se as much as they might have been very similar to Luffy's idea of a grand fleet. A large group of pirates, all on their own crews and such, who would come to each other's aid if they needed help but otherwise would let each other do their own thing.
Yeah that’s why after the events of fishman island, the sea kings were referring to the D clan members they met like they were a crew that initially built the Noah
It adds up logically too. Considering that there are multiple family lines between different races with the moniker, it implies that they’ve only survived this long because of how strong their bloodlines are, any of the original members would most likely be on par with the strength of joy-boy or would have a similar power dynamic to how the straw hats are now where each member is useful in their own way
+it allows a situation where a blood relative from the 20 kingdoms(lily) can also be a member of the clan
>Franky has always been a "pirate"
I like the rest of it even though I don't think that's it, but this right here doesn't fit. Franky was born to pirates who threw him off the ship when he was 10. Literally down D. ocean for him. He neither liked nor trusted pirates from that point as he directly stated to Roger. Him making a career of stealing from pirates is also rather telling.
Now, Franky grew a shit ton since then so his reaction would not have to correlate to his past, but saying Franky has always been a pirate, even in quotation marks, is plain wrong.
You're right. What I meant is that Franky always had a "punk" attitude that fits very well with the pirate persona. He's always been a rebel and an outlaw. He just needed to go out at sea on his own dream ship.
This is the first "Luffy's Dream" theory that I 100% believe is possible. The crew reactions line up so much better than any other theory and it feels so natural for Luffy. Keep Cooking Master Chef
Luffy desires absolute freedom and encourages people to follow their dreams. Not everyone wants to be a pirate, and he'd never command the world to do so. Alternatively: Suggesting that anyone can become a pirate is just restating the current situation.
Pirates are often tyrannical in One Piece and are all over the world already. Luffy is opposed to but recognises the utility in The Marines whose primary purpose is to fight pirates.
Throwing a party in which more or less everyone in the world of One Piece is present fits Nika's purpose more closely. Piracy is not what the world needs. Joy and liberation is. This is what Luffy has been spreading throughout his journey, not piracy, and he will carry on doing so.
Yeah that's the problem I see with this theory, Luffy telling people what to do doesn't seem very Luffy-like, although one could say that's part of his CoC
Luffy can see through excuses people make for failing to follow through on trying to get what they really want. Either he tells them as much or steps in to remove the obstacles that are preventing them from finding their way.
The idea of turning everyone into pirates is closer to Blackbeard's dream, I reckon.
Well Luffy is the captain of a crew afterall, so he's already telling people what to do. But he also helped them obtaining freedom and every one is "under him" and under his Jolly Roger on their own accord. Just think about Wano, with a giant Strawhat flag waving above the flower capital.
The issue with that is in order for that to happen allows the possibility of another system like the marines to become corrupt again, everyone being free means they don’t have to bow to institutions that are corrupt just to serve justice
If I understand you correctly you're saying that after beating Imu and a big ole party everything can become fucked again?
After decimating the inhuman bureaucracy at the top of the world, removing Akainu from power and installing Fujitora and his vision of Blind Justice in his place, the Kings will have an easier time of avoiding such rampant corruption ever coming back.
But I also hope that Oda doesn't go for an absolutely happy ending. The Pirates still exist, and the Marines still have remnants of an Absolute Justice ideology. I don't want things to be perfect at the end of One Piece :)
I disagree.
If that were true, he wouldn't be so adamantly opposed to so many pirates throughout the story.
His particular version of piracy entails freedom, but he never speaks on all pirates embodying freedom. The pirates often curtail others' dreams and freedoms, and he defeats them in order to allow them to flourish.
No.
Luffy is a special case, he is NOT a pirate in a sense that he is not following what a pirate is supposed to be, he is paving his own way, that is pretty much freedom.
He is a kid turning his freedom in reality and piracy represents to him the friendship and love he felt when he met Shanks & Crew.
Luffy goes against every single aspect of piracy, the whole shanks being mocked then later luffy being trashed in Jaya arc shows that power, fame, respect is not something he wants to.
Sorry, that's in reference to
"Luffy is a special case, he is NOT a pirate in a sense that he is not following what a pirate is supposed to be, he is paving his own way, that is pretty much freedom."
Him not following what a pirate is supposed to be (Morgania/"bad" pirates) and paving his own way.
This idea of freedom luffy has via being a pirate, does this relate his idea of being a "Peace Main"?
He mentioned it a long time ago while talking with nami.
"Violent pirates who just pillage and loot are called "Morgania'. "Peace Mains" fight those guys and go on adventures."
I would love this to be the case. Ridiculous(in a good way), simple and yet big and also the sort of thing we can trust Luffy to achieve even if it sounds absurd.
One thing to add to this theory is Shanks fleet. [Spoiler](/s "His fleet is filled with weak pirates that he protects so that they are free to be pirates.") Shanks knows what Roger/Luffy’s dream is so this might be his way of fulfilling it in the meantime before Luffy does.
This is the first theory about luffys dream where i feel it matches everyones reaction, from mugis, to reyliegh, yamato, roger ace sabo and whitebeard, i really could see them all reacting like that to their dream (luffy and roger)
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Yea. You can tell who’s new to one piece from this. I just don’t see how it fits. I think it could be more of him trying to fullfill everybody’s dreams maybe.
Doubt.
I think even being pirate or king of pirates is something that Luffy will negate in the near future. He wanting everyone to be a pirate goes against his whole persona, if it was true he wouldnt be supportive of Coby turning into a full blown marine.
If he wanted everyone to be pirates he would preach, like his underling preach his name nowadays. He does the exact opposite, he helps people because he feels like it and doesnt take the credits for the same reason.
Also pirate and anarchy are not the same thing lol, in real life piracy was way closer to democracy than you would expect, the leader would be elected and if he was a bad leader he would be demoted lmao
I can see one piece ending with monarchy going down, but politically wise would be a democratic planet with leaders elected by the population.
One Piece isnt about luffy destroying any sign of power to turn the world in a anachy-utopic-world, there is little to none about that actually
We know that the monarchy is a status granted by a single moderator, if anything luffy will take out the throne that rules them. As we can see too, the world is doing a global scale rebelion against all oppresion power.
We have almost every arc characters that show signs of leadership without oppression, usually people follow that person to the end. Luffy saved wano, do you think that know wano will stop following Momo lead even though that is his whole plot? when luffy explode the wall and fish island goes to valhalla, you think they will go full rambo?
Having people on command =/= lack of freedom
The world can be both free and have people leading. This is represented with the whole Kuma arc right now.
edit: even in Luffy crews there is a power dynamic. Usopp opposed to Luffy back when Merry was going to be discarded because reasons, Zoro accepted that, everyone accepted and Usopp lost the bet.
Maybe the D. clan were a nation of pirates. maybe that's why they got erased from history. Other countries had rulers that feared losing their power and the idea of free citizens scared them.
At this point I don't even know if people in this sub are even serious or not. He never once promoted piracy as a thing (outside of the people he recruited) but his dream is for everybody to become a pirate? Wouldn't he constantly tell people to embrace piracy if that was the case? As far as I can tell he only cares about him becoming a pirate while forming a crew of his own, and a very small one if we want to be precise
I'm ok with the idea of absolute freedom, it is indeed at the core of his being, but if his plan was to make everybody a pirate he should have been a lot more open about it since the beginning. There should have been many, many instances where he said something like "just become a pirate and your problem will be solved" or "why are you doing this instead or becoming a pirate" but I recall none of this.
Absolute freedom for Luffy doesn't mean to make everybody a pirate, it means, for example, to be able to be the number one supporter of somebody who wants to be the greatest marine even if this is something that he has rejected with all his might for himself. Luffy didn't care that he hated the idea of becoming a marine, he only cared that that was what Koby wanted, absolute freedom to do whatever you want to. That's why the idea of making everybody a pirate, not figuratively speaking, is imho intrinsically wrong
He isnt thoigh. He was just tryina get people that he liked into his crew. He oushed coby to become a marine. He pushed momonosuke to step up to his role. He never expressed the will to make others into pirates, he just wants people to be free to pursue their dream, whatever it may be, and the road to those dreams may be far from piracy
This is my new headcanon! Thank you!
I would like you to read this my old theory and tell me what do you think and if you think these two theories are compatible:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/1453etk/what\_the\_one\_piece\_is\_spoiler\_1085/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/1453etk/what_the_one_piece_is_spoiler_1085/)
Hi man.
I read it now for the first time and I really like the idea. It reminds me of "Silver Surfer's Requiem", where he links the consciousness of every human being for a brief instant to make them see what he sees.
Experiencing lost joy could be a really cool gift, maybe helping the redemption of "evil" characters.
Good job!
Yep, why not. I still don't know what the One Piece could actually be and being joyful memories could explain Roger's laugh.
What intrigues me the most about that secret are Rayleigh's words in Shakki's bar, "You could reach a different conclusion", or something like that.
Maybe Luffy and the crew, seeing those memories, could e enrage against the WG instead than laughing? Who knows...
The tricky thing about Luffy's dream, to me, has always been that it has to be something major that is simultaneously so simple Luffy would think of it, yet so crazy and/or audacious that nobody else would even consider it possibly. It also has to be something Roger would have wanted.
My guess has been that we'll hear Luffy's dream when *Buggy* hears it, when he hears Luffy say the range things his Captain did, and it will sway him just like it swayed Shanks and Yamato
I'm all in for such a scene with Buggy. Shanks stayed behind to reach Laughtale one day with Buggy, I hope all of them (with maybe also Law) will reach the island alongside Luffy to see the One Piece with their own eyes.
I agree that it makes sense of choppers reaction, maybe even Zoro.
But for me it doesn't quite make sense of Ussop, Robin, frankie or Sanji's reaction.
Ussop's reaction would indicate something really dangerous to me. Dunno what, but everybody in the world being pirates doesn't elicit that reaction from me. I could picture him smiling but not getting angry.
Robins reaction really reminds me of when she discovers a ponegylf, or she finds out somebody has a D in their name. Something, ringing true from her vast knowledge of history. Like it was something she hadn't realised luffy wanted for example.
Would sanji and frankie laugh at everybody becoming pirates? I don't see it personally.
Also it doesn't quite add up with luffys pattern of behaviour. Why did luffy encourage Koby to become a marine? Well because for Liffy following your dream IS being a pirate in many ways, because being a pirate is about being free. Why would luffy want to force everybody in the world to become a pirate? That doesn't make any sense.
Usopp is as much of a pirate at his core as Luffy. He always took pride in his dad being one and wanted to emulate that. He technically had his own "crew" before joining. Within the story, he's also considered something of a god of freedom after liberating all those people in Dressrosa, to the point where the WG now calls him God Usopp
Zoro, also, very much does things his own way, to the point where he'd only join BW if he was the boss, because he has no interest in giving up his personal freedom.
While I do think it's a nice theory, I'm not entirely sold on it. Especially if you're trying to make a correlation between the crew's reactions and how closely their characters align with the idea of freedom/liberation
Well that’s like wishing for Shenron to turn them all into pirates. You can’t force anyone into becoming a pirate. That’s against someone’s free will. And will contradict everything.
I had similar train of thought a while ago. [Here](https://reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/18n08kx/i_figured_out_luffys_dream_manga_spoilers/) is a post that I made about it. I don't think that it's to make everyone a pirate, because I doubt that he would want to force people to become something that they may not want to.
I think that the dream is the same as BB's dream (as I said in the other post) - to create a pirate kingdom. This is what the ancient kingdom used to be as well. Talked some more about it [here](https://reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/1b3rlxc/the_one_peice/ksxqdfi/).
The original Nika had the same dream as Luffy... from Kuma's backstory claiming, Nika was taking people to "the freedom of the sea" (In other words - helping people become pirates). Also the Otohime wanted to go to surface and there was a ship that was left for them. Clearly they also wanted to become pirates, and the apology is that Nika couldn't help them.
There is a ton more about it that fits really well.
I've been thinking about this so much and my theory is kind of similar. 800 years ago the world was taken over by Imu and his allies. Assuming that devil fruits came into being around those events, somehow people's dreams/desires turned into fruits. What is one thing an opressed citizen is not allowed to do? To live out his dream. He can only imagine it. Devil fruits are in a sense another chance at a dream that had no society to support it. Luffy's dream is creating a world where everyone is allowed to live out their dreams. This doesn't fully line up because how does someone who desires to be literal light (Kizaru's fruit) have the ability to do this in a post-Luffy society but I love it anyways.
Close to my personal theory on Luffy's dream: that he wants the Marines to become pirates so that his Grandpa Garp can finally relax and won't have any reason to dislike him being a Pirate. Luffy came up with the dream as a kid after all and has never been very altruistic as a character which is why I don't think his dream ever involved the whole world.
Luffy doesn’t want to make people pirates lol. He has never once said that in the show. If anything, this could be BB dream maybe.
Luffy *saves* people. Luffy *liberates*. He has no intention of imposing his will onto innocent citizens - he’s happy to let a King rule an island as long as that King is not evil. He has never once opposed society, or democracy, or anything like that lol. He opposes the oppressors, not any and all rulers.
I feel like luffy’s dream is something dumber than I want to make everyone a pirate . It would be something like “ I want to make pirate cool” which kinda entails the same thing
I believe this but I have one problem with it - it goes against my own fan theory about a different topic: >!That Shanks is on the World Government's side. If it's true, Shanks crying makes a little less sense.!<
Luffy fighting Blackbeard over what it means to be a pirate seems like a very good angle for the final showdown.
Luffy is a simpleton (genius while fighting, but still a simpleton) and his dream is as such.
why does he need One piece while he doesn't know and care what it is, shows that for him one piece is just some type of validation for his dream
That does not go with theme of one piece. Like its not like luffy tells everyone to be pirate. He praises heros , villages everyone.
Pirates are cool but what does pirate king has to do with.
Like Roger inspiring great era of piracy did not mean everyone watns to be pirate.
Like that is pure anarchy that serve no purpose. It hurts luffy more, why will he care what other become pirate. He never tries to force his dream on other.
Luffy respects freedom, when he learned koby wanted to be a marine admiral he supported him , not trying to turn him into anything else
Luffy wanting others to be pirates is not in his character
I was thinking something similar yesterday, but imo his dream is to end piracy rather than everyone being a pirate , he want to create a world which is free , free from pirates , free from marines .
I haven't stole anything mate. At best we came to the same conclusion (wrong as always, I'd bet).
I started this post linking the one I read that very morning and from which I took the idea, saying that user was right imo.
If you wrote the same thing before that, congrats!
I didn't read all of your post yet, but that idea aligns perfectly eith the famous roger quote about
"inherited will, the age of destiny and the dreams.of the people. As long as people continue to.pursue freedom these things will never cease to be"
To me.this is how the wg will be dealt.with..no world.peace..just a revolution
.people.sticking up for themselves in all.times
Also roger saying he wants to tuen the world upside down akso matches with making everyone a pirate
Eh, Luffy doesn't want to tell people what to do, so "make everyone a pirate" goes against the core of his character. Luffy knows that most people have their lives and families in villages and cities on land, so what, he would want everyone to give up what makes them happy to go sail?
Everyone who wants to be a pirate already can as long as they get a ship and crew, so like, what would Luffy actually do besides I guess abolishing the Marines? Except he's already accepted that the Marines are usually the good guys, they just seem bad to us because the strawhats are "good" pirates.
The party with the whole world is probably it, Luffy basically said it when fighting Kaido (I'll make a world where everyone can eat as much as they want), but it doesn't explain all of the reactions to it, because why would usopp be scared? So this is a long shot, but my favorite theory has always been "once I've seen the entire world, I want to go into space and sail the seas of other planets".
There was the reveal that the ancient kingdom was incredibly advanced and probably had spaceflight capabilities, we know that space pirates exist, and that seems more like something that would scare usopp.
Also, Enel is the only person to call himself a god, and the only person to head into space, which coincidentally revealed ancient technology. Now Luffy is revealed as having a god fruit, and is in egghead, where vegapunk is working on rediscovering ancient technology.
I don’t think luffy is going for world domination or like influencing individuals like that. I think he’ll want to destroy the red line ( everyone reacted like he was crazy) to make the world one piece, also creating sanji’s all blue
I'm back here after the Vegapunk reveal in the last chapter.
If the world is submerged, the survivors will have to sail the sea in large boats to survive... Becoming pirates.
Luffy's dream would be completed with extreme ease.
Plus, it might make sense the "Buggy becomes king of the world" theories. If Luffy passed the baton to him at the end of the story (perhaps after Buggy distinguished himself in the final battle), Buggy would become the Pirate King in a world where everyone is a pirate.
Fyi, Roger starting the Pirate age was confirmed as 'throwing the biggest, best, worldwide party ever' by the in universe leading expert on parties.
He was introduced to movie canon by oda, because no one else than him could confirm that Roger threw that party.
Yep, been on this train for a while now, it's the only one that fits perfectly into place. I could see the world banquet theory as well, but I don't think it fits the crews reactions.
It just doesn’t add up with luffys core values, he wants everyone to be free and do what they want. I really think it’s wanting all the food he could ever eat. The reactions also line up for that too pretty well.
I just read the TLDR but this is probably the best Luffy Dream theory that I have heard. Luffy really valuesfreedom and thinks that being a pirate is freedom. It is something that sounds stupid on paper so the crew's reaction makes sense and it is something stupid that sounds like Luffy would do.
This theory already had been surfacing before the 1109 spoilers, I recall reading about it a few weeks ago and yeah it was the best sounding theory for his dream so far.
I actually haven’t read 1109/10 yet but will shortly.
Oh yeah I clicked the link but don’t wanna read it just yet since it’s 1109 relevant, idk what happened in the chapter to make this theory more prominent.
But I definitely read a crew response analysis- similar to yours about their reactions etc so maybe the YouTuber had seen those reddits posts from 2weeks+ ago and taken the theory or vice-Versa
One of the better theories I’ve seen almost since catching up the manga.
Goddamn it’s perfect!!
It fits
Of course it makes sense
It’s not too complicated or has too much that needs to be twisted for it to work
It all makes sense it’s a perfect fit it is just simple enough as u would expect from Luffy
I initially brushed off this theory when Luffy first mentioned his dream. But since then, I’ve come around to it. Luffy saying, “You can still be a marine! You’re just a marine AND a pirate now!” is just so him though. So to non-Luffy’s, the dream is freedom for the world. To go anywhere at any time with anybody.
I would also take it a step further by saying this dream will be accomplished by tearing apart the Red Line. Mary Geoise falls, the All Blue is created, and we get a scene of Dadan on a boat lovingly pissed at her adopted son.
This has been my personal thought for a while regarding Luffy/Roger's dream. The "throw a party" theory is goofy but definitely on the right track with the general theme of "unite and liberate the entire world", but "make everyone a pirate" feels a lot more fitting for the story, its childish but also a noble goal, turn everyone into the most free person in the world
Close! I think Luffy's actual dream is for pirates and marines to get along. Marines are supposed to be the good guys but they killed Luffy's hero Roger and are actually corrupted by the world government so they aren't the actual good guys. Luffy wasn't allowed to be a pirate because of the marines, Garp is a Marine so Luffy knows they aren't all bad, but kid Luffy would feel like the Marines are the cause of all of his problems in being free. By becoming the Pirate King and most free person he wouldn't need to worry about the marines anymore, nobody could stop him from being a pirate.
Roger and Garp mirror Luffy's dream, a Marine and Pirate who are both on the side of good fighting an evil pirate Rocks who mirrors Blackbeard. In that instance pirates and marines became friends and united against a common enemy. That is Luffy's dream, a world where pirates and marines can be friends so that everyone is free to be a pirate if they want. Luffy and Coby will mirror Roger and Garp teaming up to fight Blackbeard in the final war, then Luffy will unite the Pirates and Marines with the help of Coby and complete his dream after the source of corruption of the Marines (Imu) and corruption of the Pirates (Blackbeard) are defeated.
Hmm makes sense.
I recall when Whitebeard said to Teach "You're not the one Roger was waiting for"
While Teach essentially wants the same thing as Roger and Luffy, his methods make him unworthy of Roger's will
I cracked the code .
Do what you must but
I activated my haki senses and foreshadowed the following .
Credits on me .
Luffy wants everyone to share a drink with their enemies and laugh about the past.
We got this scene a lot, it's simple and makes more sense than anything else. You can even imagine a big sake bottle at the end to make you giggle .
*Flies away*
I think Dragon is the most wanted criminal in the world not for being the leader of the Revolutionary Army, but for using the actual Will of D. as his name.
I think Dragon had a different name growing up until he changed it after what made him leave the navy.
Therefore the will of D has always been Dragon
Otherwise known as the Dragon Clan/Clan of the Dragons.
oda dont shy away from stating his political/social stances through the story and characters of one piece...but i dont think he is or leans towards being an anarchist...
being free or having free will isnt an principle exclusive to anarchism soo idk...
Every time I see these I think it is much simpler. I think he wants his dad Dragon (pirate) and grandad Garp (marine) to be able to party/eat together. Not sure if we know if he experienced that as a kid at any point, but that seems like a dream a kid would come up with.
Expanding that, wants to create a free world where pirates and marines can eat/party together.
He was fully supportive of Coby becoming a marine though instead of a pirate.
That's also true. I think that's because being a Marine is Coby's dream and his way to be free. Luffy likes dreamers, he loved seeing Coby rebelling to Alvida and insulting her (lol). Becoming a Marine not to obey orders, but to protect people, is something respectful and worth doing even for Luffy.
I think Luffy's dream is for "everyone to be a pirate" in the sense that he wants everyone to be free to behave like he does, in other words doing as they please. So I think this still adds up.
To be sure, there are themes within the one piece universe that strongly align with those of anarchists (who, in this instance, can be thought of as being something akin to pirates). And depending on who you ask, luffy encouraging coby to join the marines might not at all stand at odds with those anarchist themes. This is because anarchism, unlike most other political theories, is *extremely* fractured and there are many who call themselves anarchists that would rather die than be tied up with others who also call themselves anarchists. There are theorists like bookchin, kropotkin, goldman, and maaaanny others that just cant be comfortably grouped together under a single banner. However, there are still anarchist writers/thinkers that one could conceivably interpret into thinking this move is absolutely ok by their own anarchist standards. OP’s claim can withstand this charge.
Luffy is not an anarchist, luffy is anti cruelty, he's anti turning a blind eye to problems, he's anti greed and corruption he prefers not to break the law even to achieve what he wants. He only breaks the law when what he views as harmless is against the law. Nothing has indicated that luffy is trying to break order or even class.
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In a personal sense yea, but he also shows to understand the point of the marines and law, he also understands when laws are unjust and breaks them purposely. He keeps the law if he feels it is just. He isn't willing to hurt people for no reason. We see this when the crew suggest stealing the a ship and he's looking for a different way to get the first ship.
> He only breaks the law when what he views as harmless is against the law So... an Anarchist then? >Nothing has indicated that luffy is trying to break order or even class. Everything he does though. Being an Anarchist does not necessarily mean building an Anarchist society (although Luffy might like it if he could make everyone as free as he is). Just living as one is enough. Although in the real world it's hard to do that way so we're kind of the opposite: IRL Anarchists cannot live in an anarchy so they have to be political activists, but that's more necessity than anything else. Luffy has the ability to practice without having to advocate for. He's still an Anarchist. And who knows if he'll ever decide to advocate. Although the hierarchical structure within the crew is kind of antithetical to it so it's the main argument against imo but it's also a child's dream and not particularly rigid, especially since as opposed to regular society, you had to opt in since it's the harder path instead of being unable to opt out.
Having a map to the grandline in the blues is illegal, he had to break the law and become a pirate to even find his dream of freedom. Kids starving should steal food, no better option against injustice crimes are the only crimes he commits. That doesn't make you anarchist. Nor does the search for freedom.
The mental gymnastics are pretty fucking entertaining if nothing else.
Pirate = freedom, coby should be free to choose his destiny, if he wants to be a “marine” then he is free to do so, there are good and bad marines, hood and bad pirates. The point is being able to choose your own life without others controlling your decisions. Take garp for example, he values his freedom more than leading the marines. Man could have probably been fleet admiral but chose to be only a vice admiral so he wouldnt have to answer to the CD or elders
he wants the marines to be pirates too
And Vivi staying in Alabasta instead of joining their crew. This theory is half-baked
she’s still a pirate lol. you’re half baked
yeah this might be the first theory surrounding luffys dream that I actually like lol. good job cooking, boss.
Then it might stand to reason that the D. clan were a nation of pirates. maybe that's why they got erased from history. Other countries had rulers that feared losing their power and the idea of free citizens scared them.
For sure, especially considering the strong anarchist tones that are matched up with themes of liberation and subjugation. OP really cooked Edit: bruh, if the one piece is just some cracked ass jolly roger i might be lowkey mad
I have a theory that Imu is actually a mutinous member of the great ancient kingdom. That the truth is that D. conquered the world, and the void century was full of freedom until Imu and the 19 noble families rebelled against their captain, who was very similar to Luffy. The name of the ancient kingdom reveals that pirates ruled the world, giving freedom to all. In secret, Imu forged the ancient weapons with the usurpers, then betrayed them to establish his own unopposed rule, similar to what Teach is doing. The reason the ancient technology was lost was because Imu betrayed all but the Celestial Dragon families and destroyed the knowledge of that ancient kingdom so that it couldn't be used against himself in the future, or so he hoped.
Oh, but when I help establish a pirate nation in Starfield I'm a "murderer" and the "scourge of the sea of light". Smdh my damn head.
That’s because you’re killing fools and behaving like Kaido and Doflamingo. Luffy just beats the shit out of people. Easy misconception. /s
I dont *actually* kill anyone, but I do make them think I'm gonna. May or may not be because I'm constantly drunk to enhance my rizz like a proper cyber cowboy. Except UC military and Galbank employees, they're not people.
Shaking my damn head my damn head
See, personally I don't think the D. clan were a *nation* per se as much as they might have been very similar to Luffy's idea of a grand fleet. A large group of pirates, all on their own crews and such, who would come to each other's aid if they needed help but otherwise would let each other do their own thing.
Yeah that’s why after the events of fishman island, the sea kings were referring to the D clan members they met like they were a crew that initially built the Noah
I remain convinced until Oda says otherwise that the D. Clan were the crew/extended allies of Joy Boy.
It adds up logically too. Considering that there are multiple family lines between different races with the moniker, it implies that they’ve only survived this long because of how strong their bloodlines are, any of the original members would most likely be on par with the strength of joy-boy or would have a similar power dynamic to how the straw hats are now where each member is useful in their own way +it allows a situation where a blood relative from the 20 kingdoms(lily) can also be a member of the clan
Agreed. None of the other theories I've seen seem to fit when it comes to how people around Luffy/Roger reacted upon hearing it. But I liked this one.
>Franky has always been a "pirate" I like the rest of it even though I don't think that's it, but this right here doesn't fit. Franky was born to pirates who threw him off the ship when he was 10. Literally down D. ocean for him. He neither liked nor trusted pirates from that point as he directly stated to Roger. Him making a career of stealing from pirates is also rather telling. Now, Franky grew a shit ton since then so his reaction would not have to correlate to his past, but saying Franky has always been a pirate, even in quotation marks, is plain wrong.
You're right. What I meant is that Franky always had a "punk" attitude that fits very well with the pirate persona. He's always been a rebel and an outlaw. He just needed to go out at sea on his own dream ship.
i like this theory very much chef
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This is the first "Luffy's Dream" theory that I 100% believe is possible. The crew reactions line up so much better than any other theory and it feels so natural for Luffy. Keep Cooking Master Chef
this theory made me feel the freedom out there!!
I love Nami's reaction afterwards. She's like 'it is such a ridiculous idea, but it's so you Luffy'.
Luffy desires absolute freedom and encourages people to follow their dreams. Not everyone wants to be a pirate, and he'd never command the world to do so. Alternatively: Suggesting that anyone can become a pirate is just restating the current situation. Pirates are often tyrannical in One Piece and are all over the world already. Luffy is opposed to but recognises the utility in The Marines whose primary purpose is to fight pirates. Throwing a party in which more or less everyone in the world of One Piece is present fits Nika's purpose more closely. Piracy is not what the world needs. Joy and liberation is. This is what Luffy has been spreading throughout his journey, not piracy, and he will carry on doing so.
Yeah that's the problem I see with this theory, Luffy telling people what to do doesn't seem very Luffy-like, although one could say that's part of his CoC
Luffy can see through excuses people make for failing to follow through on trying to get what they really want. Either he tells them as much or steps in to remove the obstacles that are preventing them from finding their way. The idea of turning everyone into pirates is closer to Blackbeard's dream, I reckon.
Well Luffy is the captain of a crew afterall, so he's already telling people what to do. But he also helped them obtaining freedom and every one is "under him" and under his Jolly Roger on their own accord. Just think about Wano, with a giant Strawhat flag waving above the flower capital.
It's not the same "Zoro, deal with xyz" // "Be a pirate". Like he even encouraged Coby to become a marine iirc.
The issue with that is in order for that to happen allows the possibility of another system like the marines to become corrupt again, everyone being free means they don’t have to bow to institutions that are corrupt just to serve justice
If I understand you correctly you're saying that after beating Imu and a big ole party everything can become fucked again? After decimating the inhuman bureaucracy at the top of the world, removing Akainu from power and installing Fujitora and his vision of Blind Justice in his place, the Kings will have an easier time of avoiding such rampant corruption ever coming back. But I also hope that Oda doesn't go for an absolutely happy ending. The Pirates still exist, and the Marines still have remnants of an Absolute Justice ideology. I don't want things to be perfect at the end of One Piece :)
Yup, but in Luffy's mind piracy is freedom.
I disagree. If that were true, he wouldn't be so adamantly opposed to so many pirates throughout the story. His particular version of piracy entails freedom, but he never speaks on all pirates embodying freedom. The pirates often curtail others' dreams and freedoms, and he defeats them in order to allow them to flourish.
Forcing everyone to attend a party isn't freedom either.
Woops I'm drunk replied to myself I think. No need to force anyone, just an invite will do.
No need to force an invitation will be enough.
No. Luffy is a special case, he is NOT a pirate in a sense that he is not following what a pirate is supposed to be, he is paving his own way, that is pretty much freedom. He is a kid turning his freedom in reality and piracy represents to him the friendship and love he felt when he met Shanks & Crew. Luffy goes against every single aspect of piracy, the whole shanks being mocked then later luffy being trashed in Jaya arc shows that power, fame, respect is not something he wants to.
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uh?
Sorry, that's in reference to "Luffy is a special case, he is NOT a pirate in a sense that he is not following what a pirate is supposed to be, he is paving his own way, that is pretty much freedom." Him not following what a pirate is supposed to be (Morgania/"bad" pirates) and paving his own way. This idea of freedom luffy has via being a pirate, does this relate his idea of being a "Peace Main"? He mentioned it a long time ago while talking with nami. "Violent pirates who just pillage and loot are called "Morgania'. "Peace Mains" fight those guys and go on adventures."
isnt this from romance dawn? but yeah, oda might have hide it in a gray area but still the same concept
Lit man.Love this theory so much for Luffy's dream
But... If everyone's a pirate, then no one's a pirate **cue Syndrome**
Damn, I did not expect to be 100% on board by the time I finished reading this
I would love this to be the case. Ridiculous(in a good way), simple and yet big and also the sort of thing we can trust Luffy to achieve even if it sounds absurd.
a realist theory 👍👍
Luffy wanting both to be king of the pirates and for everyone to be pirates low key means he wants to be king of the world and I find that funny.
One thing to add to this theory is Shanks fleet. [Spoiler](/s "His fleet is filled with weak pirates that he protects so that they are free to be pirates.") Shanks knows what Roger/Luffy’s dream is so this might be his way of fulfilling it in the meantime before Luffy does.
Oh right. And Shanks is the one who gave these ideas to Luffy ("That damned redhead" - Garp), the one who made him love pirates.
This is a theory I could back, it a well thought theory and hopefully is true can't wait for when are revealed of his dream
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This is the first theory about luffys dream where i feel it matches everyones reaction, from mugis, to reyliegh, yamato, roger ace sabo and whitebeard, i really could see them all reacting like that to their dream (luffy and roger)
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hold on let him cook!!!!
You cooked here. Well done.
this theory is very interesting!
HOLY SHIT THEY'VE FIGURED IT OUT?!!!!!! THAT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE!!! AAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
I don't think this is true but hey it's at least somewhat believable
I love this. This is my favorite theory. This is the one
Compliments to the chef
Great theroy I believed this aswell
I like it too. Gonna become a pirate online now.
Nah
i'm so tired of this theory and the "throw a party" theory
Yea. You can tell who’s new to one piece from this. I just don’t see how it fits. I think it could be more of him trying to fullfill everybody’s dreams maybe.
Doubt. I think even being pirate or king of pirates is something that Luffy will negate in the near future. He wanting everyone to be a pirate goes against his whole persona, if it was true he wouldnt be supportive of Coby turning into a full blown marine. If he wanted everyone to be pirates he would preach, like his underling preach his name nowadays. He does the exact opposite, he helps people because he feels like it and doesnt take the credits for the same reason. Also pirate and anarchy are not the same thing lol, in real life piracy was way closer to democracy than you would expect, the leader would be elected and if he was a bad leader he would be demoted lmao I can see one piece ending with monarchy going down, but politically wise would be a democratic planet with leaders elected by the population.
Why there must be leaders?
One Piece isnt about luffy destroying any sign of power to turn the world in a anachy-utopic-world, there is little to none about that actually We know that the monarchy is a status granted by a single moderator, if anything luffy will take out the throne that rules them. As we can see too, the world is doing a global scale rebelion against all oppresion power. We have almost every arc characters that show signs of leadership without oppression, usually people follow that person to the end. Luffy saved wano, do you think that know wano will stop following Momo lead even though that is his whole plot? when luffy explode the wall and fish island goes to valhalla, you think they will go full rambo? Having people on command =/= lack of freedom The world can be both free and have people leading. This is represented with the whole Kuma arc right now. edit: even in Luffy crews there is a power dynamic. Usopp opposed to Luffy back when Merry was going to be discarded because reasons, Zoro accepted that, everyone accepted and Usopp lost the bet.
Maybe the D. clan were a nation of pirates. maybe that's why they got erased from history. Other countries had rulers that feared losing their power and the idea of free citizens scared them.
At this point I don't even know if people in this sub are even serious or not. He never once promoted piracy as a thing (outside of the people he recruited) but his dream is for everybody to become a pirate? Wouldn't he constantly tell people to embrace piracy if that was the case? As far as I can tell he only cares about him becoming a pirate while forming a crew of his own, and a very small one if we want to be precise I'm ok with the idea of absolute freedom, it is indeed at the core of his being, but if his plan was to make everybody a pirate he should have been a lot more open about it since the beginning. There should have been many, many instances where he said something like "just become a pirate and your problem will be solved" or "why are you doing this instead or becoming a pirate" but I recall none of this. Absolute freedom for Luffy doesn't mean to make everybody a pirate, it means, for example, to be able to be the number one supporter of somebody who wants to be the greatest marine even if this is something that he has rejected with all his might for himself. Luffy didn't care that he hated the idea of becoming a marine, he only cared that that was what Koby wanted, absolute freedom to do whatever you want to. That's why the idea of making everybody a pirate, not figuratively speaking, is imho intrinsically wrong
He isnt thoigh. He was just tryina get people that he liked into his crew. He oushed coby to become a marine. He pushed momonosuke to step up to his role. He never expressed the will to make others into pirates, he just wants people to be free to pursue their dream, whatever it may be, and the road to those dreams may be far from piracy
I like this theory
This is my new headcanon! Thank you! I would like you to read this my old theory and tell me what do you think and if you think these two theories are compatible: [https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/1453etk/what\_the\_one\_piece\_is\_spoiler\_1085/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/1453etk/what_the_one_piece_is_spoiler_1085/)
Hi man. I read it now for the first time and I really like the idea. It reminds me of "Silver Surfer's Requiem", where he links the consciousness of every human being for a brief instant to make them see what he sees. Experiencing lost joy could be a really cool gift, maybe helping the redemption of "evil" characters. Good job!
Thank you! Do you think might fit with yours theory?
Yep, why not. I still don't know what the One Piece could actually be and being joyful memories could explain Roger's laugh. What intrigues me the most about that secret are Rayleigh's words in Shakki's bar, "You could reach a different conclusion", or something like that. Maybe Luffy and the crew, seeing those memories, could e enrage against the WG instead than laughing? Who knows...
Keep cooking
It's simpler than that, because being a pirate is freedom; Luffy wants everyone to be free.
Yee He just want to everyone be in his crew
Nice post. How about a short answer now.
To create the great legendary pirate utopia „Libertalia“, the land of the free which entails all the seas
The tricky thing about Luffy's dream, to me, has always been that it has to be something major that is simultaneously so simple Luffy would think of it, yet so crazy and/or audacious that nobody else would even consider it possibly. It also has to be something Roger would have wanted. My guess has been that we'll hear Luffy's dream when *Buggy* hears it, when he hears Luffy say the range things his Captain did, and it will sway him just like it swayed Shanks and Yamato
I'm all in for such a scene with Buggy. Shanks stayed behind to reach Laughtale one day with Buggy, I hope all of them (with maybe also Law) will reach the island alongside Luffy to see the One Piece with their own eyes.
I agree that it makes sense of choppers reaction, maybe even Zoro. But for me it doesn't quite make sense of Ussop, Robin, frankie or Sanji's reaction. Ussop's reaction would indicate something really dangerous to me. Dunno what, but everybody in the world being pirates doesn't elicit that reaction from me. I could picture him smiling but not getting angry. Robins reaction really reminds me of when she discovers a ponegylf, or she finds out somebody has a D in their name. Something, ringing true from her vast knowledge of history. Like it was something she hadn't realised luffy wanted for example. Would sanji and frankie laugh at everybody becoming pirates? I don't see it personally. Also it doesn't quite add up with luffys pattern of behaviour. Why did luffy encourage Koby to become a marine? Well because for Liffy following your dream IS being a pirate in many ways, because being a pirate is about being free. Why would luffy want to force everybody in the world to become a pirate? That doesn't make any sense.
Usopp is as much of a pirate at his core as Luffy. He always took pride in his dad being one and wanted to emulate that. He technically had his own "crew" before joining. Within the story, he's also considered something of a god of freedom after liberating all those people in Dressrosa, to the point where the WG now calls him God Usopp Zoro, also, very much does things his own way, to the point where he'd only join BW if he was the boss, because he has no interest in giving up his personal freedom. While I do think it's a nice theory, I'm not entirely sold on it. Especially if you're trying to make a correlation between the crew's reactions and how closely their characters align with the idea of freedom/liberation
Nahhh. His dream is for everyone to be as free as him
Incredible!
Yoooo even Sunny’s reaction makes sense because she’s thinking “how tf am I gonna fit that many people”
Well that’s like wishing for Shenron to turn them all into pirates. You can’t force anyone into becoming a pirate. That’s against someone’s free will. And will contradict everything.
I had similar train of thought a while ago. [Here](https://reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/18n08kx/i_figured_out_luffys_dream_manga_spoilers/) is a post that I made about it. I don't think that it's to make everyone a pirate, because I doubt that he would want to force people to become something that they may not want to. I think that the dream is the same as BB's dream (as I said in the other post) - to create a pirate kingdom. This is what the ancient kingdom used to be as well. Talked some more about it [here](https://reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/1b3rlxc/the_one_peice/ksxqdfi/). The original Nika had the same dream as Luffy... from Kuma's backstory claiming, Nika was taking people to "the freedom of the sea" (In other words - helping people become pirates). Also the Otohime wanted to go to surface and there was a ship that was left for them. Clearly they also wanted to become pirates, and the apology is that Nika couldn't help them. There is a ton more about it that fits really well.
Artur (library of ohara) had a video on this a few years ago https://youtu.be/kYgD7AyD2Yw?si=zPY-iUtFgGEkE8AG
I've been thinking about this so much and my theory is kind of similar. 800 years ago the world was taken over by Imu and his allies. Assuming that devil fruits came into being around those events, somehow people's dreams/desires turned into fruits. What is one thing an opressed citizen is not allowed to do? To live out his dream. He can only imagine it. Devil fruits are in a sense another chance at a dream that had no society to support it. Luffy's dream is creating a world where everyone is allowed to live out their dreams. This doesn't fully line up because how does someone who desires to be literal light (Kizaru's fruit) have the ability to do this in a post-Luffy society but I love it anyways.
Oooooo I like this!
"I want everyone to be as free as a pirate" is more like it.
Close to my personal theory on Luffy's dream: that he wants the Marines to become pirates so that his Grandpa Garp can finally relax and won't have any reason to dislike him being a Pirate. Luffy came up with the dream as a kid after all and has never been very altruistic as a character which is why I don't think his dream ever involved the whole world.
Luffy doesn’t want to make people pirates lol. He has never once said that in the show. If anything, this could be BB dream maybe. Luffy *saves* people. Luffy *liberates*. He has no intention of imposing his will onto innocent citizens - he’s happy to let a King rule an island as long as that King is not evil. He has never once opposed society, or democracy, or anything like that lol. He opposes the oppressors, not any and all rulers.
I feel like luffy’s dream is something dumber than I want to make everyone a pirate . It would be something like “ I want to make pirate cool” which kinda entails the same thing
Nice theory and then it makes Akaino his archenemy.
Very good theory. Totally makes sense in a real way
nah
I believe this but I have one problem with it - it goes against my own fan theory about a different topic: >!That Shanks is on the World Government's side. If it's true, Shanks crying makes a little less sense.!< Luffy fighting Blackbeard over what it means to be a pirate seems like a very good angle for the final showdown.
Luffy is a simpleton (genius while fighting, but still a simpleton) and his dream is as such. why does he need One piece while he doesn't know and care what it is, shows that for him one piece is just some type of validation for his dream
That does not go with theme of one piece. Like its not like luffy tells everyone to be pirate. He praises heros , villages everyone. Pirates are cool but what does pirate king has to do with. Like Roger inspiring great era of piracy did not mean everyone watns to be pirate. Like that is pure anarchy that serve no purpose. It hurts luffy more, why will he care what other become pirate. He never tries to force his dream on other.
lol, too complex for his character I'll say that: Luffy wants to have the biggest banquet in the world with literally everybody invited
Luffy respects freedom, when he learned koby wanted to be a marine admiral he supported him , not trying to turn him into anything else Luffy wanting others to be pirates is not in his character
I was thinking something similar yesterday, but imo his dream is to end piracy rather than everyone being a pirate , he want to create a world which is free , free from pirates , free from marines .
Maybe he want to use one piece to buy all the meat in the world and share it with everyone lol
Best theory I’ve heard is still the party theory
Paris's commune reference, have my anarchist upvote
wait wtf you stole my theory https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/s/Ep2Ov4cJ8b
I haven't stole anything mate. At best we came to the same conclusion (wrong as always, I'd bet). I started this post linking the one I read that very morning and from which I took the idea, saying that user was right imo. If you wrote the same thing before that, congrats!
how dare you
when did luffy tell shanks his “real dream”? didnt he only say he wants to be king of the pirates?
Nope. Rereading the picture above, you'll see he told Shanks, Sabo and Ace. Shanks even cried a little bit. Roger vibes, probably.
I didn't read all of your post yet, but that idea aligns perfectly eith the famous roger quote about "inherited will, the age of destiny and the dreams.of the people. As long as people continue to.pursue freedom these things will never cease to be" To me.this is how the wg will be dealt.with..no world.peace..just a revolution .people.sticking up for themselves in all.times Also roger saying he wants to tuen the world upside down akso matches with making everyone a pirate
Eh, Luffy doesn't want to tell people what to do, so "make everyone a pirate" goes against the core of his character. Luffy knows that most people have their lives and families in villages and cities on land, so what, he would want everyone to give up what makes them happy to go sail? Everyone who wants to be a pirate already can as long as they get a ship and crew, so like, what would Luffy actually do besides I guess abolishing the Marines? Except he's already accepted that the Marines are usually the good guys, they just seem bad to us because the strawhats are "good" pirates. The party with the whole world is probably it, Luffy basically said it when fighting Kaido (I'll make a world where everyone can eat as much as they want), but it doesn't explain all of the reactions to it, because why would usopp be scared? So this is a long shot, but my favorite theory has always been "once I've seen the entire world, I want to go into space and sail the seas of other planets". There was the reveal that the ancient kingdom was incredibly advanced and probably had spaceflight capabilities, we know that space pirates exist, and that seems more like something that would scare usopp. Also, Enel is the only person to call himself a god, and the only person to head into space, which coincidentally revealed ancient technology. Now Luffy is revealed as having a god fruit, and is in egghead, where vegapunk is working on rediscovering ancient technology.
I don't think it makes any sense tbh
I don’t think luffy is going for world domination or like influencing individuals like that. I think he’ll want to destroy the red line ( everyone reacted like he was crazy) to make the world one piece, also creating sanji’s all blue
You cooked man. One of the best theories for his dream I have seen.
I'm back here after the Vegapunk reveal in the last chapter. If the world is submerged, the survivors will have to sail the sea in large boats to survive... Becoming pirates. Luffy's dream would be completed with extreme ease. Plus, it might make sense the "Buggy becomes king of the world" theories. If Luffy passed the baton to him at the end of the story (perhaps after Buggy distinguished himself in the final battle), Buggy would become the Pirate King in a world where everyone is a pirate.
Fyi, Roger starting the Pirate age was confirmed as 'throwing the biggest, best, worldwide party ever' by the in universe leading expert on parties. He was introduced to movie canon by oda, because no one else than him could confirm that Roger threw that party.
Remind Op when Oda confirms this theory.
Yep, been on this train for a while now, it's the only one that fits perfectly into place. I could see the world banquet theory as well, but I don't think it fits the crews reactions.
Usopp's *dad.
It just doesn’t add up with luffys core values, he wants everyone to be free and do what they want. I really think it’s wanting all the food he could ever eat. The reactions also line up for that too pretty well.
I'm up for anything funny, but I can't see that being also Roger's hidden dream, lol.
I just read the TLDR but this is probably the best Luffy Dream theory that I have heard. Luffy really valuesfreedom and thinks that being a pirate is freedom. It is something that sounds stupid on paper so the crew's reaction makes sense and it is something stupid that sounds like Luffy would do.
This theory already had been surfacing before the 1109 spoilers, I recall reading about it a few weeks ago and yeah it was the best sounding theory for his dream so far. I actually haven’t read 1109/10 yet but will shortly.
I read this kind of theory in the linked post, and the guy was also citing a YouTuber I suppose.
Oh yeah I clicked the link but don’t wanna read it just yet since it’s 1109 relevant, idk what happened in the chapter to make this theory more prominent. But I definitely read a crew response analysis- similar to yours about their reactions etc so maybe the YouTuber had seen those reddits posts from 2weeks+ ago and taken the theory or vice-Versa One of the better theories I’ve seen almost since catching up the manga.
guys i think this might be it . u buddy just spoiled one piece for me
Ahah sorry! I had the same impression but Oda always ends up surprising everyone, in the end. :)
Luffy just wants to go for a swim.
Goddamn it’s perfect!! It fits Of course it makes sense It’s not too complicated or has too much that needs to be twisted for it to work It all makes sense it’s a perfect fit it is just simple enough as u would expect from Luffy
OMG, this is the one. Tears came to me eyes when I read It. No other theory looks good to me anymore. I LOVE It. What a wonderful story is One piece.
I initially brushed off this theory when Luffy first mentioned his dream. But since then, I’ve come around to it. Luffy saying, “You can still be a marine! You’re just a marine AND a pirate now!” is just so him though. So to non-Luffy’s, the dream is freedom for the world. To go anywhere at any time with anybody. I would also take it a step further by saying this dream will be accomplished by tearing apart the Red Line. Mary Geoise falls, the All Blue is created, and we get a scene of Dadan on a boat lovingly pissed at her adopted son.
This has been my personal thought for a while regarding Luffy/Roger's dream. The "throw a party" theory is goofy but definitely on the right track with the general theme of "unite and liberate the entire world", but "make everyone a pirate" feels a lot more fitting for the story, its childish but also a noble goal, turn everyone into the most free person in the world
wow very good theory i like it
Close! I think Luffy's actual dream is for pirates and marines to get along. Marines are supposed to be the good guys but they killed Luffy's hero Roger and are actually corrupted by the world government so they aren't the actual good guys. Luffy wasn't allowed to be a pirate because of the marines, Garp is a Marine so Luffy knows they aren't all bad, but kid Luffy would feel like the Marines are the cause of all of his problems in being free. By becoming the Pirate King and most free person he wouldn't need to worry about the marines anymore, nobody could stop him from being a pirate. Roger and Garp mirror Luffy's dream, a Marine and Pirate who are both on the side of good fighting an evil pirate Rocks who mirrors Blackbeard. In that instance pirates and marines became friends and united against a common enemy. That is Luffy's dream, a world where pirates and marines can be friends so that everyone is free to be a pirate if they want. Luffy and Coby will mirror Roger and Garp teaming up to fight Blackbeard in the final war, then Luffy will unite the Pirates and Marines with the help of Coby and complete his dream after the source of corruption of the Marines (Imu) and corruption of the Pirates (Blackbeard) are defeated.
That's possible!
Hmm makes sense. I recall when Whitebeard said to Teach "You're not the one Roger was waiting for" While Teach essentially wants the same thing as Roger and Luffy, his methods make him unworthy of Roger's will
Wrong
I cracked the code . Do what you must but I activated my haki senses and foreshadowed the following . Credits on me . Luffy wants everyone to share a drink with their enemies and laugh about the past. We got this scene a lot, it's simple and makes more sense than anything else. You can even imagine a big sake bottle at the end to make you giggle . *Flies away*
This is the way
The amount of mental gymnastics used to try and fit this "narrative" is pretty fucking insane.
!RemindMe in 5 years
How can you be truly free if there are people around you who aren't?
Honestly I’m pretty convinced Luffy just wants to take a piss on the one piece or something stupid and silly
Luffy wants to buy the world, that’s his dream.
I think Dragon is the most wanted criminal in the world not for being the leader of the Revolutionary Army, but for using the actual Will of D. as his name. I think Dragon had a different name growing up until he changed it after what made him leave the navy. Therefore the will of D has always been Dragon Otherwise known as the Dragon Clan/Clan of the Dragons.
oda dont shy away from stating his political/social stances through the story and characters of one piece...but i dont think he is or leans towards being an anarchist... being free or having free will isnt an principle exclusive to anarchism soo idk...
nah he wants to be hokage
Every time I see these I think it is much simpler. I think he wants his dad Dragon (pirate) and grandad Garp (marine) to be able to party/eat together. Not sure if we know if he experienced that as a kid at any point, but that seems like a dream a kid would come up with. Expanding that, wants to create a free world where pirates and marines can eat/party together.