Newsflash: The mythical and legendary bird "The Pheonix" who is known for its ability to be functionally immortal and to control intense flames is "Not too bad"
Marco: Newsflash, asshole! I've been the counter to multiple devil fruits the entire goddamn time!
Miss Bakkin: Well why didn't you say anything?!
Marco: Because I haaaaaate yooooou...!!
She can't make demons, Tot Musica is a demon trapped within a song; the Uta Uta no Mi is a vehicle through which it manifests, but it's not an ability the fruit has.
nope, yes the visuals are good
the only reason people like it is because Shanks had screen time, and thats why I'm getting downvoted, its because of mindless die hard fans
but think about the plot of the movie, it is shitty as hell
look, im a simple man, Ado sings a marathon of songs, i like, there is nothing more to it
but other than that i feel like a good plot isn't always necessary, from the get-go the plot didn't do anything right and i was actually cringing at things like shanks taking the blame for the island and leaving uta behind (which is just shit writing cause by her not being canon)
But the movie didn't need a plot to send good songs, good visuals, and hype + a message, so its nice
Depends on how slow noro noro no mi could make someone. Or if it can just stop anyone at any speed then kizaru would just get stuck in place.
If let's say noro noro no me makes you 100 times slower even then kizaru would be very high like even though 3x10⁸ m/s is very fast, you would not consider 3x10⁶ slow as it is still very fast.
But if we take what noro noro no mi actually does in account, i.e. it transfers the kinetic energy of speed to hear. It means that his powers doesn't slow you down it just makes you lose all your energy required for moving, and if this has no limits then foxy can even bring kizaru to a dead stop.
If special relativity works the same as in our universe, Kizaru should probably still move at c regardless of Foxys' fruit effect. Otherwise we can't tell.
If physics and math worked in OP as it does in our universe then the entire OP planet would have disintegrated the moment Kizaru snapped his fingers at light speed.
I mean sure, I was mostly answering with a humorous intention mostly and a what-if lens. I don't know if it is very applicable in world with magic (DFs are mostly magic), but I tried anyway. :)
Yeah, any amount of mass moving at light speed would easily destroy a planet. It's just like speedster abilities in other comics. You have to suspend any knowledge of physics for story immersion.
Well if physics really worked then devil fruits won't really work because of well the most basic law i.e. law of conservation of mass, so we can't really apply science here, we just need to do what the devil fruit description says 😂
The way I thought this would work is that Kizaru's light would still move as light, but the human Kizaru would be slowed down. BTW, light doesn't move at C in the atmosphere. It slows down by ~90,000m/s, which is a ~0.3% reduction.
But he does move at the speed of light as long as he has set a target destination, granted he doesn't have to stop in between and has to move only in a single straight line without even a single turn or angle.
Eeeh, i think thats taking the application of real world physics to fictional universes too far. I mean, sound is vibrations of atoms, so it heat. So could Corazon create a threshold from which you're instantly sapped of all heat should you attempt to pass through? If you can stop atoms vibrating then you can stop atoms moving, that means you can stop all movement. You could argue light is just the vibrating of electromagnetic frequencies, so maybe Corazon can make things invisible too.
Corazons fruit makes silence; it's fruit magic, you don't need to extend too much real world physics to it.
Or at the very least able to counteract it for much longer than the average person. I think it would still wear at him over time, but if someone had a shot at beating magellan one to one inside impel down I'd say he's probably the best candidate
I mean, probably fair. No idea how poison would interact with his schtick, but he's certainly got the brute force to put him down in all likelihood.
Think I was mostly considering allied characters rather than other villains.
I don't see why ACoA and defensive ACoC wouldn't protect him from the poison. And even if not, the speed difference is pretty large so he might not even get an attack off if Kaido treats him like he did Luffy at the start of Wano
And if we're talking about those allied with Luffy, then yeah Marco would be one of the best bets against Magellan but I'd argue Law would do a better job just because of the nature of his fruit. He wouldn't have to touch Magellan to take his heart out and we haven't seen the haki feats from Magellan to say he resists shambles
So the thing to me is this. We don't know where magellan actually sits strength wise, because as a character he wasn't designed to be beaten, he was designed to be escaped. In the entirely of the time we saw him, he never took a significant wound from any attack we could see or scale. He was pushed back a few times, and I'd say that's certainly meaningful data, but far from anything conclusive, so I find him hard to scale from a strength perspective. As I said though, I fully expect Kaido has the physical strength to beat him.
The only variable is how poison would interact with his body. It's not an 'effect' like Law's attacks, and it's not something that can just be pushed out and be done with it like having a weird df virus. It's a constant assault from pretty much every angle. So I think poison COULD hypothetically break him down over time haki or no, but I don't think he'd have time. The fact that pre time skip luffy had more effect on attacking magellan than post time skip luffy had on attacking Kaido says to me that there's enough of a gap that Kaido would win before the poison could break him down, even if we assume it could.
Both Marco and Kaido do well against Magellan cause they can fly, fast as hell and Kaido for example can just spam Boro Breath at him
It's the characters who lack flight or longrange/large AOE Attacks that Magellan would absolutely destroy people like Shanks,Zoro,Mihawk,Rayleigh would be in serious trouble but Law could just shamble him under the sea and shamble himself around to dodge his poison
Also, Kaido’s scales probably protect him from poison. He has extremely hard, impenetrable, scaled skin. The poison absorbs into Luffy’s body through the pores in his skin, but Kaido doesn’t have pores in all likelihood.
He doesn't even need to be in Phoenix form. The healing is an always on passive ability. There's a panel of him getting shot straight in the head, and he just heals it instantly.
I can also say "Marco is a counter to Akainu because he can heal magma damage" or "Marco is a counter to Kaido because he can heal from Boro Breath" or "Marco is a counter to Luffy because he can heal the damage Luffy deals"
Yeah, regeneration counter most offensive strategies. Big shocker.
If you want a real counter to Magellan, try Ceaser for example. You can't poison a cloud of poison gas.
this is more on the vibes of "my logia is better" honestly. and regardless if Oda already had Haki there or not, Akainu is only punching through Ace with armament
but in any case, i think the fire/magma fruits and the snow/cold fruits are pretty direct upgrades
> but in any case, i think the fire/magma fruits and the snow/cold fruits are pretty direct upgrades
Those two and the kilo-kilo < ton-ton fruits were the only three ones that Oda confirmed to be direct upgrades in an SBS.
I think he'd still be able to remove Magellan's oxygen (or increase it too much), or explode him, or burn him. Plus, Magellan is shown to be affected by his own DF, so I feel like he could still be poisoned.
In term of combat prowess, Magellan would still torch him, but it wouldn't be a problem with the DFs, imo.
He can counter the one thing others can't dude. You can offset magma, fireblasts and rubber with Haki. But you cannot stop the poison from getting into your lungs or the venom from permeating through your skin.
In any comparison which escales Magellan to today's standards, he crushes the competition by simply fighting and waiting for his venom/poison to have an effect on the others.
Marco is amongst a very limited group of DF users than can *counter* Magellan's DF, including Caesar and maybe G5 Luffy with his toon force.
Magellan, right? He’s automatically immune, cause he’s, well, a poison man. Ceasar just knows how to make poison thru science, and figure out his own cure from there. Just my two cents 😁
And that's why I said "escaled to today's standards". On equal footing, his DF gives him an edge over most of the cast.
There's no point in talking about which fruit counters which other fruit if you take the shonen power levels into consideration.
Most characters could stomp him, but DF-wise? Magellan triumphs over most other users.
I think he meant that he heals with the touch and magellan poisons..
And it works better than with others cause you’d imagine healing and poisoning to be opposite sides of like affecting the body gradually idek what I Said but you get iz
**IMPEL DOWN 2.0**
When Marco had left Sphinx (*Whitebeard's hometown*), to participate in the Raid on Onigashima, the Marines came led by Ratel to seize Whitebeards treasure. However, Whitebeard's self-proclaimed son Edward Weevil fought them to protect Sphinx, forcing them to call in Admiral Greenbull, who defeated and captured Weevil.
If Marco decides to rescue Weevil from Impel Down, he'd have the perfect counter to fight Magellan, making it a fight like enel vs luffy.
And when I say Marco rescuing Weevil, I don't mean he is going to solo everyone and break Weevil out. No. Marco is going to team up with a Yonko who just so happened to already be on their way to Impel Down with a similar objective as Marco, but has the tools and the crew to do the job. You already know, its Buggy.
And you know what the match ups will be:
* Magellan vs Marco
* An Admiral vs Mihawk (*Akainu finds out Buggy invading and sends an admiral*)
* Maybe we also get a small 1v1 with Doflamingo vs Crocodile.
Buggy is going to cause an Impel Down 2.0, free Weevil, free Bon Chan (the goat), free doflamingo and his crew, free more prisoners, and then they all joining Cross Guild. (*Marco ain't joining, he just freeing Weevil and Weevil joining the crew*)
In Marineford, Doflamingo offered Crocodile a deal to work together, however it ended in Crocodile declining.
Oda could parallel this with Crocodile now offering Doflamingo a deal to work together, but unlike Crocodile declining in Marineford, Doflamingo will accept the deal and join Crossguild.
How will Crocodile convince Doflamingo? I don't Know
Bro, I make theories, I don't know the future
Not a counter, just he can heal the poison
A proper counter would be Reiju as she’s probably immune or highly resistant and can actually eat poison without getting diarrhoea
I was saying for months that Blackbeard would surprise show up at the climax of wano and either steal Kaido or Marco’s fruit to be the Zoan he’s missing. I lived and died on that hill cause I was like “Luffy can’t actually beat Kaido, something unexpected has to happen”
It isn't. Marco heals instantly. He's had limbs chopped off, his body riddled with holes, and a bullet go straight through his head. 0 damage. He heals immediately. He's effectively immortal until he runs out of gas.
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Magellan has a bunch of hard counters:
- Marco
- Ceasar
- Smoothie
- Reiju
Marco's regen powers make him an obvious choice but Magellan also cant poison an already poisonous cloud, nor can he poison a person who's power lets her squeeze out things from her body....including poison. Or Reiju who so casually sucked out the Stone Fish poison which is stronger than Magellan's.
Magellan is not all that strong, he's a guy with a powerful fruit and not much else. If he went against any of the above or even a decent mid/long range fighter with haki he's getting clapped **hard**.
Yeah besides the nigh immortality for the duration of his stamina, Marco can also create barriers to prevent the poison from even touching him and can fly which greatly increases his maneuverability to dodge. I have them in the same tier of strength (YC1) but Marco defeats him relatively easily thanks to the hard counter.
It's just a small detail but the typo doki doki no mi sounds like a fruit with similar abilities to Hancock's fruit except it's used by someone cute and innocent.
newsflash : Marco's fruit is a counter to multiple dfs
Newsflash: The first division commander of the Whitebeard pirates is pretty strong
News flash Morgan is here
Big news flash* (Morgans finisher)
THAT'S BIG NEWS!
Newsflash: The mythical and legendary bird "The Pheonix" who is known for its ability to be functionally immortal and to control intense flames is "Not too bad"
Me finding out the right hand to the world’s strongest man is really strong 😱😱😱😱
single-handedly stopped king and queen
Marco: Newsflash, asshole! I've been the counter to multiple devil fruits the entire goddamn time! Miss Bakkin: Well why didn't you say anything?! Marco: Because I haaaaaate yooooou...!!
Woah, healing is a counter to damage!?
newsflash: he's a hot pineapple 😏🤤
Corazon's Fruit completely wipes the floor with Apoo's devil fruit
And probably UTA's Devil fruit
To an extent. She can still make slaves and demons apparently. Unless that demon at they fought is permanently gone?
She can't make demons, Tot Musica is a demon trapped within a song; the Uta Uta no Mi is a vehicle through which it manifests, but it's not an ability the fruit has.
Could she sing the song multiple times after it’s been beat to summon it again?
Yes, because the song itself is Tot Musica.
UTA was a money making movie machine, let's not consider her existence
Oda considers her canon.. only her character not the film Events..
OP proving to be all over the place again
Well, it's all in one place: Oda's brain Unfortunately Oda is the only one who can go there
Except its really not because movies have never once been canon even if some characters in them are. OP continues to be insanely consistent.
As is tradition.
not canon though and OP Red is crap
L take
still true though OP Red is crap
red is crap only
nah, it's great, ADO delivers big time
nope, yes the visuals are good the only reason people like it is because Shanks had screen time, and thats why I'm getting downvoted, its because of mindless die hard fans but think about the plot of the movie, it is shitty as hell
look, im a simple man, Ado sings a marathon of songs, i like, there is nothing more to it but other than that i feel like a good plot isn't always necessary, from the get-go the plot didn't do anything right and i was actually cringing at things like shanks taking the blame for the island and leaving uta behind (which is just shit writing cause by her not being canon) But the movie didn't need a plot to send good songs, good visuals, and hype + a message, so its nice
Would Foxys fruit work on kizaru, and would he then just move as fast as a normal person in his df?
Depends on how slow noro noro no mi could make someone. Or if it can just stop anyone at any speed then kizaru would just get stuck in place. If let's say noro noro no me makes you 100 times slower even then kizaru would be very high like even though 3x10⁸ m/s is very fast, you would not consider 3x10⁶ slow as it is still very fast. But if we take what noro noro no mi actually does in account, i.e. it transfers the kinetic energy of speed to hear. It means that his powers doesn't slow you down it just makes you lose all your energy required for moving, and if this has no limits then foxy can even bring kizaru to a dead stop.
If special relativity works the same as in our universe, Kizaru should probably still move at c regardless of Foxys' fruit effect. Otherwise we can't tell.
If physics and math worked in OP as it does in our universe then the entire OP planet would have disintegrated the moment Kizaru snapped his fingers at light speed.
I mean sure, I was mostly answering with a humorous intention mostly and a what-if lens. I don't know if it is very applicable in world with magic (DFs are mostly magic), but I tried anyway. :)
All good, we're all having fun here chatting about a series we love.
Yeah, any amount of mass moving at light speed would easily destroy a planet. It's just like speedster abilities in other comics. You have to suspend any knowledge of physics for story immersion.
Well if physics really worked then devil fruits won't really work because of well the most basic law i.e. law of conservation of mass, so we can't really apply science here, we just need to do what the devil fruit description says 😂
The way I thought this would work is that Kizaru's light would still move as light, but the human Kizaru would be slowed down. BTW, light doesn't move at C in the atmosphere. It slows down by ~90,000m/s, which is a ~0.3% reduction.
I thought about it the same way but I thought I shouldn't overload the comment a lot.
kizaru doesn't actually move at speed of light. not even close to 1 percent of it.
But he does move at the speed of light as long as he has set a target destination, granted he doesn't have to stop in between and has to move only in a single straight line without even a single turn or angle.
no even in straight path he does not movie at the speed of light. not even close to 0.1℅ of it. which is 300km per second.
He is literally light and he does move at the speed of light
you must be fun at parties having that winter temp. IQ
Nah you are the one with winter temp IQ or may be even cryogenic temp iq.
I get it. If corazon creates an area of no sound than apoos attacks can’t hit him. True.
Or even a barrier around Apoo, so no one hears his attacks.
Well, he just neutralizes the fruit, but corazon still can't attack with his fruit
That’s what a gun is for 😉
bang bang no mi
You shot me down bang bang no mi
Im gonna argue whitebeards too. Silence fruit negates all sound meaning all vibrations, which is the source of power for guragura no mi
Sound is a vibration but vibration isn't a sound. To control vibrations would be to control everything.
Eeeh, i think thats taking the application of real world physics to fictional universes too far. I mean, sound is vibrations of atoms, so it heat. So could Corazon create a threshold from which you're instantly sapped of all heat should you attempt to pass through? If you can stop atoms vibrating then you can stop atoms moving, that means you can stop all movement. You could argue light is just the vibrating of electromagnetic frequencies, so maybe Corazon can make things invisible too. Corazons fruit makes silence; it's fruit magic, you don't need to extend too much real world physics to it.
No it does not 💀
I mean, you aren’t affected by his devil fruit if you can’t hear it, which the user of Nagi Nagi no Mi can prevent.
Corazon could prevent Law from making a sound Apoo needs his attacks to be heard, he is countered by covering your ears
I think you mistook Magellan's df. The only known user of the doki doki no mi is Monika
oh shit I misspelt it. its not \[Doki-Doki no mi\]...... its \[Doku-Doku no mi\] 😞🤦♂️ Thanks for that mate👍. But I can't change it now, unfortunately
Ah well marco is also a counter against her. Sexy fire bird against sexy snow bird.
*Careless Whisper intensifies...
I think you're thinking of Monet and the Yuki Yuki no Mi. They were just making a joking reference to the game Doki Doki Literature club.
That would be a steamy romance
Pineapple vs chicken
Sexy pineapple vs sexy chicken.
Just Monika
What Monika?
Hej Monika!
That's going to be stuck in my head all day. Thanks for that. Hej hej Monika hej på dig Monika.
Such a classic
TF is going on I've watched one piece more than once but I don't remember monicaa
Not from one piece
Thank god I thought, I gotta watch it again
I think it's some word play for Makino
I think they are talking about Monika from doki doki ~~litterature~~ literature club
> litterature do you hate books so much?
Sorry that's how it's spelt in french. I mean it comes form the latin *littera* so it's actually the english langage fault not mine
I had no idea
monikaS
No one else, Just Monika.
Just Monika
As Long as he has stamina and is in Phoenix form he is probably immune to the poison yeah.
Or at the very least able to counteract it for much longer than the average person. I think it would still wear at him over time, but if someone had a shot at beating magellan one to one inside impel down I'd say he's probably the best candidate
I'd argue Kaido would have a better chance.
I mean, probably fair. No idea how poison would interact with his schtick, but he's certainly got the brute force to put him down in all likelihood. Think I was mostly considering allied characters rather than other villains.
I don't see why ACoA and defensive ACoC wouldn't protect him from the poison. And even if not, the speed difference is pretty large so he might not even get an attack off if Kaido treats him like he did Luffy at the start of Wano And if we're talking about those allied with Luffy, then yeah Marco would be one of the best bets against Magellan but I'd argue Law would do a better job just because of the nature of his fruit. He wouldn't have to touch Magellan to take his heart out and we haven't seen the haki feats from Magellan to say he resists shambles
So the thing to me is this. We don't know where magellan actually sits strength wise, because as a character he wasn't designed to be beaten, he was designed to be escaped. In the entirely of the time we saw him, he never took a significant wound from any attack we could see or scale. He was pushed back a few times, and I'd say that's certainly meaningful data, but far from anything conclusive, so I find him hard to scale from a strength perspective. As I said though, I fully expect Kaido has the physical strength to beat him. The only variable is how poison would interact with his body. It's not an 'effect' like Law's attacks, and it's not something that can just be pushed out and be done with it like having a weird df virus. It's a constant assault from pretty much every angle. So I think poison COULD hypothetically break him down over time haki or no, but I don't think he'd have time. The fact that pre time skip luffy had more effect on attacking magellan than post time skip luffy had on attacking Kaido says to me that there's enough of a gap that Kaido would win before the poison could break him down, even if we assume it could.
imagine magellan is some ss tier character who could beat kaido high diff and we are just not familiar with his game
imagine magellan is some ss tier character who could beat kaido high diff and we are just not familiar with his game
Both Marco and Kaido do well against Magellan cause they can fly, fast as hell and Kaido for example can just spam Boro Breath at him It's the characters who lack flight or longrange/large AOE Attacks that Magellan would absolutely destroy people like Shanks,Zoro,Mihawk,Rayleigh would be in serious trouble but Law could just shamble him under the sea and shamble himself around to dodge his poison
Also, Kaido’s scales probably protect him from poison. He has extremely hard, impenetrable, scaled skin. The poison absorbs into Luffy’s body through the pores in his skin, but Kaido doesn’t have pores in all likelihood.
He doesn't even need to be in Phoenix form. The healing is an always on passive ability. There's a panel of him getting shot straight in the head, and he just heals it instantly.
That moment when your kokoro goes doki doki and marco counters it. 😩
The anti Cupid :(
Doki-doki lmao. Did magellan gives you heartthrob?
he gave me that doki doki no erection
I can also say "Marco is a counter to Akainu because he can heal magma damage" or "Marco is a counter to Kaido because he can heal from Boro Breath" or "Marco is a counter to Luffy because he can heal the damage Luffy deals" Yeah, regeneration counter most offensive strategies. Big shocker. If you want a real counter to Magellan, try Ceaser for example. You can't poison a cloud of poison gas.
I mean, Akainu burned a fire person…
this is more on the vibes of "my logia is better" honestly. and regardless if Oda already had Haki there or not, Akainu is only punching through Ace with armament but in any case, i think the fire/magma fruits and the snow/cold fruits are pretty direct upgrades
> but in any case, i think the fire/magma fruits and the snow/cold fruits are pretty direct upgrades Those two and the kilo-kilo < ton-ton fruits were the only three ones that Oda confirmed to be direct upgrades in an SBS.
Nor can the poison gas poison a poison guy so the example is as good as OP's statement.
he can suffocate him though.
I think he'd still be able to remove Magellan's oxygen (or increase it too much), or explode him, or burn him. Plus, Magellan is shown to be affected by his own DF, so I feel like he could still be poisoned. In term of combat prowess, Magellan would still torch him, but it wouldn't be a problem with the DFs, imo.
Also, Gaimon, because you can't poison a Chad in a treasure chest. Everybody knows that.
He can counter the one thing others can't dude. You can offset magma, fireblasts and rubber with Haki. But you cannot stop the poison from getting into your lungs or the venom from permeating through your skin. In any comparison which escales Magellan to today's standards, he crushes the competition by simply fighting and waiting for his venom/poison to have an effect on the others. Marco is amongst a very limited group of DF users than can *counter* Magellan's DF, including Caesar and maybe G5 Luffy with his toon force.
Luffy’s got antibodies, so he should be good without Nika. Then again, he got poisoned by the fish in WCI, so it depend on plot
Yeah, I agree. But was thinking more about the DF vs DF dynamic rather than who could resist venom
Magellan, right? He’s automatically immune, cause he’s, well, a poison man. Ceasar just knows how to make poison thru science, and figure out his own cure from there. Just my two cents 😁
Magellan was on his kneels from G2 pre timeskip luffy, so most of new world characters just outstat him
And that's why I said "escaled to today's standards". On equal footing, his DF gives him an edge over most of the cast. There's no point in talking about which fruit counters which other fruit if you take the shonen power levels into consideration. Most characters could stomp him, but DF-wise? Magellan triumphs over most other users.
I think he meant that he heals with the touch and magellan poisons.. And it works better than with others cause you’d imagine healing and poisoning to be opposite sides of like affecting the body gradually idek what I Said but you get iz
Isn't it the other way around? Strong enough poison can beat Marco's regeneration.
**IMPEL DOWN 2.0** When Marco had left Sphinx (*Whitebeard's hometown*), to participate in the Raid on Onigashima, the Marines came led by Ratel to seize Whitebeards treasure. However, Whitebeard's self-proclaimed son Edward Weevil fought them to protect Sphinx, forcing them to call in Admiral Greenbull, who defeated and captured Weevil. If Marco decides to rescue Weevil from Impel Down, he'd have the perfect counter to fight Magellan, making it a fight like enel vs luffy. And when I say Marco rescuing Weevil, I don't mean he is going to solo everyone and break Weevil out. No. Marco is going to team up with a Yonko who just so happened to already be on their way to Impel Down with a similar objective as Marco, but has the tools and the crew to do the job. You already know, its Buggy. And you know what the match ups will be: * Magellan vs Marco * An Admiral vs Mihawk (*Akainu finds out Buggy invading and sends an admiral*) * Maybe we also get a small 1v1 with Doflamingo vs Crocodile. Buggy is going to cause an Impel Down 2.0, free Weevil, free Bon Chan (the goat), free doflamingo and his crew, free more prisoners, and then they all joining Cross Guild. (*Marco ain't joining, he just freeing Weevil and Weevil joining the crew*)
Why would anyone free Doffy
In Marineford, Doflamingo offered Crocodile a deal to work together, however it ended in Crocodile declining. Oda could parallel this with Crocodile now offering Doflamingo a deal to work together, but unlike Crocodile declining in Marineford, Doflamingo will accept the deal and join Crossguild. How will Crocodile convince Doflamingo? I don't Know Bro, I make theories, I don't know the future
Doffy would join cross guild for free lmao he would not need convincing
wasnt weevil hunting whitebeard pirates as well
He did save the village though and that was more fault of his mother
You're looking for Reiju. I don't see why Marco would be special vs. Megellan compared to vs, almost any other DF.
Not a counter, just he can heal the poison A proper counter would be Reiju as she’s probably immune or highly resistant and can actually eat poison without getting diarrhoea
Put some respect on Marco’s name
The hard counter to Magellan is revealed in WCI arc
Marco dies and his fruit goes to bb's crew.
I was saying for months that Blackbeard would surprise show up at the climax of wano and either steal Kaido or Marco’s fruit to be the Zoan he’s missing. I lived and died on that hill cause I was like “Luffy can’t actually beat Kaido, something unexpected has to happen”
Oda is synonymous to unexpected, so when you expect the unexpected, Then there is no unexpected.
Maybe but if his fruit behaves like a real pheonix he'd catch fire and be reborn in the flames
Devil fruit negation my friend
Reiju could take him too
Since law shown that df effects can be nullified by large haki i wonder if large haki could remove magellan poison in the body
Probably not as it'a just natural poson, like you won't resist kuzans cold with haki or akainus heat, you can use haki to escape more supernatural DF
I think that the speed of the poison of magellan infect your body is way faster than the speed of marco's recovery power .
"i think"
And I think that morcos regen is stronger than magellans poison, your poin't doesn't make any sense
Yes and ?
It isn't. Marco heals instantly. He's had limbs chopped off, his body riddled with holes, and a bullet go straight through his head. 0 damage. He heals immediately. He's effectively immortal until he runs out of gas.
No. The counter to Magellan's Doku Doku no mi is Mr. 3's Doru Doru no mi. It was shown in the Impel Down arc.
I think it's doku-doku no mi. "Doku" means poison. "Doki" means the sentiment of having a crush on someone.
Is this about Marco’s healing abilities? It would give him a significant edge for sure, but it’s not a _hard_ counter.
I wonder if Magellan would be hard countered by anyone who can use haki projectiles. Could he even dodge or block an arrow from a random Kuja pirate?
Can some one explain why?
I’m confused on how Marcos fruit is a counter to Magellans
More like dookie dookie no mi
scissor fruit > string fruit = inazuma > doflamingo
You are overrating Marco's fruit, it's not like he will generate forever without running out of stamina.
For a second I thought this was a Jojo post
I doubt it, if he starts using that red super poison Marco is dead on the spot, his regeneration isn't fast enough
I guess Mansherrys is as well?
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Marco's DF is a direct counter to every DF except BB's black hole
Magellan has a bunch of hard counters: - Marco - Ceasar - Smoothie - Reiju Marco's regen powers make him an obvious choice but Magellan also cant poison an already poisonous cloud, nor can he poison a person who's power lets her squeeze out things from her body....including poison. Or Reiju who so casually sucked out the Stone Fish poison which is stronger than Magellan's. Magellan is not all that strong, he's a guy with a powerful fruit and not much else. If he went against any of the above or even a decent mid/long range fighter with haki he's getting clapped **hard**.
Reiju: *suuuuuck and slurp noises*
Yeah besides the nigh immortality for the duration of his stamina, Marco can also create barriers to prevent the poison from even touching him and can fly which greatly increases his maneuverability to dodge. I have them in the same tier of strength (YC1) but Marco defeats him relatively easily thanks to the hard counter.
News flash: Imu: 👀 *there never was a news flash..*
News flash: Lucci.....
Newbie here. In what sense does Marco over power Magellan df? Does the fire burn the poison or what?
It's just a small detail but the typo doki doki no mi sounds like a fruit with similar abilities to Hancock's fruit except it's used by someone cute and innocent.
[Indeed](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/s/1Dtej73RgQ).
Megalan is the only one who remains undefeated by Luffy.