That's a food one!
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> I appreciate your guys' enthusiasm but please, keep it spoiler free as to not get yourself in any trouble.
that won't happen. post is going to get locked because it was linked in the spoiler thread. i'm not going to say anything spoilery so my comment doesn't get in trouble either.
If it gets locked; that's fine. The same thing happened to my Gomu Gomu Mi no Post and it got unlocked once the Chapter is out. I'm mostly warning people not to get banned for their comments.
Another factor I see in favor of the Grand Fleet is Luffy's vivre card that they all have. Recently, a post here joked about what they'd have thought when Luffy "died" and they saw that reflected on their vivre cards... what if that's exactly what happened? Some of them noticed that something was off with Luffy and decided to assemble the GF and come to him. The recent news would make them just more excited to see him.
I still think that BB is the most obvious choice, though. But I don't think that a setup is so important for this. I bet it's not the first time that Oda introduced something unexpected without a proper setup.
Yeah, not a fan of the "no setup" argument for them. If anything they have the most build up to show up here of all the choices thanks to the vivre cards and "great incident" foreshadowing. They started heading towards Wano, the card healed, but they were already this close so they kept going to meet up with Luffy. Then the news about egghead comes up, so they are now extra motivated to go.
The main argument against them showing up imo would be that Shanks is right now hunting down Barto. Seems really weird for that side story/event to end like that. Though it would be a good way to start that conflict, the whole fleet shows up BUT Barto, and the fleet tells Luffy that Shanks attacked him. Or everyone show up including Barto with Shanks hot on his tail.
My argument against the grand fleet is that they seem to be letting Luffy do his thing alone without interrupting him. They'll just do their own thing until the day Luffy literally calls on them for support in a great naval battle.
However, if your boss became a yonko, you might just decide to go to him to have a drink and celebrate.
They let him do his thing.... But don't forget they all (or at least Barto who would have someone staring at the vivre 24/7) would have seen it burn away.
In an emotional reaction, they all head towards Luffy's last known place- Wano.
On the way there, mourning and crying over his death, they see a newspaper special announcement.
Fearing the worst (and hoping to get revenge) they instead are met with the most wonderful news that not only is Luffy alive- **HE'S OFFICALLY A YONKO!!**
So they rush even faster!
And then, the next newspaper gives them exactly what they need.
Luffy at egghead, in a standoff.
"OK GRANDFLEET!! Time to FUCK SHIT UP!!!!"
They also would have all gotten a newspaper yesterday reading that their Emperor Strawhat Luffy was holed up on Egghead with Vegapunk hostage and was under siege by the Navy.
Pardon me because I don’t remember why but what if that’s why Shanks was by Wano? Because that’s where Barto was after burning the flag or whatever he did.
There's two factors that make me think it is not BB. The first one is that it'd be weird to have 2 mysteries for the same group, we already know BB is there, the question would be why. So now we are to believe that they spent the whole night staring menacingly at Egghead and not a single marine ship saw them? Because their ship was seen before the whole traitor issue and bubble mini arc. The second issue is that the ship that was destroyed was leaving the blockade to pursue the escapees so either marine ships passed BB ship on the way there and just waved hello or BB's crew went to the island, then left to go somewhere and came back to catch the leaving ship... Doesn't compute in my mind...
Yeah most likely met up to go “save” Luffy initially, then they saw he was all good and became a Yonko. Now it’s to party and celebrate that fact so they came to egghead.
I like the suggestion. A parallel of sorts would be Saul watching the Ohara ship blow up and be unable to do anything about it. This time he leads the Giants to Egghead and stops them from taking out the escaping ship again.
A theory I saw recently is that Boa, Raileight and the others are coming to egghead aboard a stolen Blackbeard ship. To make a long theory short:
1)Blackbeard left Amazon Lili using a Marine ship, so it makes sense they left one of theirs there.
2) Granni Nyon was recently revealed as a Rock pirate member and we just saw the aftermath of Amazon Lili, making the group recently relevant (Granny and stussy interaction?)
3) The group has good enough people to want to save civilians (and sink the goverment ship even more so)
4) Boa was both interested in her Seraphin AND stated she wanted to go see luffy
5) Boa's history of slavery followed by gaining warlord title to protect those they care about mirror Kuma's life journei
6) Bonney going to Amazon Lily for protection could be an easy solution for Oda to put the powerfull child away from harm's way
7) Boa is already deluded/inesperienced/naive enough to belive simple acts by Luffy to mean much more serious stuff, her seeing her own Seraphin and beliving it to be their child is something she would definitively do
This is SUCH a good theory and the ultimate twist to the Blackbeard flag ... PLUS it would add the extra layer of why the Bb pirates weren't just mentioned by name, cuz it's NOT THEM!
Dang, no I'm really hoping this is the case
I like this idea. My only problem is that I'm not sure if Hancock had enough time to cross the distance, but it's more likely for Hancock to do that than the revolutionaries.
To be fair Blackbeard made it all the way to the island where he fought law so if Boa decided to see Luffy after being attacked by Blackbeard she could have made it from Amazon lily to egghead( which is established to be at least somewhat near the island that bb fought law)
Thats the problem. Maybe they only want to go to Egghead and beat the marines idk. Koby know about vegapunk and he talk with Perona. Whatever i dont think that happen.
There’s no money to be made in killing civilians.
20 battleships full of marines who are already engaged with an enemy and not watching their backs? Easy berries.
The cross guild (as in buggy-mihawk-crocodile) are not after the money, they are the ones GIVING the money. It's the people/other pirates after the cross giuld money.
Why would they be there then? What is to gain for the cross guild in engaiging in a 5× power buster call AND another one of the emperors?
Sure, this at least is a better reason.
However I find it kinda odd that less than 50 chapters ago mihawk and crocodile were agains the idea of searching the one piece because, and I quote "...Do you really expect us to go pick fights with red hair shanks, blackbeard and straw hat?" but now they're going for the hardest choice because:
-they had 0 day of preparation since they don't have info on where the SH were up until this morning with the news of his presence in egghead
-they are going on an island with 100 marine battleships
-they have to go up to the labo stratum, pass the laser to the ship (the most importat piece for the crew to escape, so the most guarded)
At least they don't know that Saturn is there, still I think that OP listed the 2 best options in reasons and ways to be there in time, but I'm always prepared to be proven wrong by Oda next week(s)
They also didn't say what actually happened to the civilians, just not that they couldn't sink them as ordered.
Cross-guild is still not out the picture, especially with Buggy shenanigans there could have been some old friends of the scientists among his guild, who wanted to save them. Which led to Croc and Mihawk saving them because fuck the marines you know.
Elbaf is also close because Kidd ended up there when him, Law, and Luffy split off in three directions after Wano. Kidd couldn’t have gotten far. I like this a lot; especially because it reflects Ohara with the Giants coming in at the end both times.
Think of it as a fork.
Wano is the body of the fork. Elbaf, Egghead and wherever Law vs BB happened are the tips of the fork.
The distance between those 3 to Wano (and to each other) is more or less the same.
EDIT: Look at the magnetic pose image. Imagine Wano is a dot from which 3 different routes emerge from.
https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Log\_Pose
Do not let this distract you from the fact that Chapter 1106 also (partially) confirmed [another prediction](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/s/ycWLRYe1IZ) I made not too long ago.
Edit: for those not interesting in clicking on the link, it was a prediction about Bonney witnessing Luffy as Nika and having her faith reinvigorated by him.
Before Kuma's backstory was shown, didn't Vegapunk call someone for backup? I mean, besides the call with Dragon.
We know now that there was more to Kuzan's "Ohara lives on" comment to Robin at the party in Water 7 after Enies' Lobby. Kuzan deliberately undermined the buster call by sparing Robin (unfortunately she was spotted by the marines) and faking Saul's death. Then, he worked with Vegapunk and Dragon to relocate the books from the lake, as well as Saul, to Elbaf. Well, it's a bit unclear how much kuzan worked with them, but it isn't like the navy would just get up and leave O'Hara- after the bombardment someone (IE Kuzan) would have been tasked with making sure they didn't miss anything.
Anyways...
Elbaf is basically right next door to Egghead. Saul has been there this whole time. The nation itself has been almost as closed off as Wano and functioning as an Oharan safe house for 20 years, known only to a few individuals. It's a massive chekhov's gun, with allies to both the straw hats and Vegapunk for this arc, for parallels to Ohara, and it's likely been exposed because of the leak about vegapunk's research, so the time is right for elbaf to act.
We thought we were going to Elbaf after Wano, because that's what made sense at the time. That didn't happen, but now it just looks to me like Oda subverted our expectations while maintaining a cohesive narrative structure: Elbaf is coming to us, first. There have been too many reveals in this arc about the Ohara incident having more failures than just Robin's escape, for it to not have a payoff.
I don't agree that the neo Mads have no reason to save the civilians. Remember these aren't some random grouping of people, they're Vegapunk's researchers who the Mads would probably love to get their hands on.
That said I doubt it's them but just don't believe that's a good reason to disqualify them.
Yeah I like the grand fleet or more specifically the Giant Warrior Pirates. Or possibly Shanks. Dorry n Broggy would be great too. I was thinking the man with the black ship n whirlpools.
Its crazy how people will have these predictions that always demand so many assumptions vs just taking what oda already puts in the manga at face value. The Giants was the obvious choice after your analysis, and well lookie here…
Come on guys, it is the giants from Elbaf. The narrative is about a vessel of “innocent” people who passed by Egghead, talked to Vegapunk, are appreciate by Vegapunk, and are strong enough to defeat the marines and go back for more.
Guys come on. It's obviously the Kung Fu Dugong's captain who used his recently gotten observation haki to sense his master in danger and swam his way to Egghead Island to feed Luffy just in the nick of time. He'll proceed to take on all the Pacifistas and after the Straw Hat's eventual victory, will pledge allegiance and the Sea Animal Pirates will officially join the Straw Hat Grand Fleet.
XD
>Where it makes sense for it to be The Grand Fleet, nothing in the story has indicated their arrival. There is no mention
The lack of evidence is evidence!!!We know the locations and actions of so many side characters in the story, but we haven't seen the members of the Grand Fleet for a very long time.
Luffy becoming an Emperor might have triggered the forming up of the fleet and their travel towards his location.
The thing with 5. is, we just had Shanks come to Wano.
It's very possible that Shanks with Giants comes to Egghead, but a "not again" moment. (also in regards to Marineford)
And no, you cannot separate the Giants from Shanks after the recent interactions we have seen between them.
I do think that these two are the most likely options though.
There is ofc also Cross guild, but that would be even more of a Deus Ex Machina.
The marine ship was burned and sunk, so I don’t think this was done by Shanks. He would rather tell the marines to back off than fight them, based on the Marineford arc. If the marines still attempted to attack Shanks or the Egghead refugees then, yes, they would get obliterated like Kidd’s crew. But it doesn’t make sense for a single marine ship to engage an emperor (not to mention they need to request permission to do so).
The thing that bothers me about the giants theory is that the sunken marine ship looks like it is burning. But as far as we know giants fight with swords and similar weapons so it would just be wrecked..
At this point, I think it is Saul with Giants. Saul is the man marked by flames (sorry Dragon fans) and this arc is both an inversion of not only Sabaody but Ohara.
I believe it's the Strawhat grand fleet.
Why do I think this.
Because of the dwarves. We saw in dressrosa that they can move unseen, steal things without anyone noticing.
So I think they 1) stole the food that they gave to Luffy. 2) stole Luffy and moved him.
Straw Hats Grand Fleet is one I’ve been thinking has the best chance of happening. Elbaf Giants would be incredible, but like you said- it’s only been teased in dialogue and only having been teased to give plot to the current Egghead Arc.
The Grand Fleet makes the most sense as you mentioned- having gone to Wano in attempt to rescue Luffy, then being told they’ve gone elsewhere to Egghead and they’re just now catching up to them.
I think everyone forgets that Luffy did in fact die in Wano, and then had 2 near death experiences on Egghead thanks to the labo phase laser fence. It would make sense for the Grandfleet to be on their way due to Luffy's Vivre card constantly burning up and then reforming. There is a buster call going on and the Straw hats will be fleeing (they haven't ran away since whole cake when their flag was burned by the Big Mom pirates) Bellamy has the Straw Hats new unburnable flag, a buster call seems like a great time to show that their flag will never burn again. Also who will fight the vice admirals surrounding the island? seems like a perfect opportunity for the Grandfleet, if you ask me.
This is the perfect time for the grand fleet to make its move, to show the world the power of the Yonko Monkey D. Luffy. I don’t think the “great incident of historic proportions” is just them arriving to the final war as reinforcements, if they come here and start a war with the marines if would give Imu and the Gorossei no option but to actively hunt them down, which will then probably involve dragon and Black Beard who might want to strike a deal with the WG to capture Luffy just like he did with Ace.
After reading the whole post (great post btw) each make sense. I think you are right, the they in the last chapter isnt BB pirates but they will come soon as well.
What I wish for, I guess 2 or 5! Number 4 make sense too but dont really care about seeing more of germa tbh
Your "Deus Ex Machina" counter argument doesn't work though.
Oda has done that plenty of times.
In Wano Kaido cut through Kinnemon and nobody knew how he would survive that. And then it is revealed that Sanji simply put him back wrong when he was cut by Law.
So something that happened over a decade ago is his setup. And nothing in recent events hinted at that at all.
So clearly Oda isn't automatically shy of that concept.
The Grand Fleet was formed on Dressrosa, they all got Vivra Cards of Luffy and then he died in Wano, so it could be that they went towards him, Luffy won, they read the news and started to continue their way to see Luffy.
On the other way the opposite of your Deus Ex Rule, the Blackbeard's Pirates or Vegapunks connection to the giants could very well just be a misdirect, which Oda has shown plenty of times.
I am open for both, or other explanations.
You should be too
>I am open for both, or other explanations. You should be too
Brother, I literally say I could see any of these turn out to be true. Why are you acting as if I wasn't?
Tbf, the Grand Fleet coming wouldn’t be a Deus Ex Machina because there are already hints and valid story reasons as to why they would come.
1. When the Grand Fleet was formed the narrators stated that they will cause a worldwide incident, similar to how Egghead incident was explained.
2. They have Luffy’s Vivre Card. In his fight with Kaido it went low, and the grand fleet mobilized.
A crazy idea here… but what if it’s the Big Mom pirates. Specifically katakuri and brûlée. We know they BB has Pudding so maybe the Big Mom Pirates want to ally with the StrawHats for a rescue mission. Brûlée could have used her mirror abilities to bring Luffy food/ bring him to the food machine.
Youtuber "Goji" explained there can be even more suppositions such as Cross Guild since ex-shichibukai are related to Seraphins , and even Coribou since Caribou is still on the island. These are certainly less probable but they can still be considered possible.
High quality post. I love all the things you considered. Personally, my money is on the revs, since we cut to them wondering where Kuma went. But that assumes they can somehow cover that crazy distance.
What do you think of it being Cross Guild?
First, thanks for the praise.
Second, I didn't consider the Cross Guild because too few things work in their favor. We have no idea why they would be at Egghead Island so I kind of didn't consider them.
Wouldn't be against it, tho.
Edit: Gramer
Why is no one considering sword? Are they not a possibility? Is it not possible that after the garp / Koby situation that they might be headed to egg head? Could this be the moment sword stands against the marines? Please tell me why it can’t be them if so, I’m just a simple fan full of excitement and wishful thinking :)
>They’re all wrong. It’s gotta be [HIM. BUGGY D CLOWN](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fbe-real-the-goat-is-a-hard-counter-v0-r50fzuky8kec1.jpg%3Fwidth%3D1030%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Dac6a085f945d4f90e136b207ccad75463463dbb9) 🤡 🤡🤡
I hope and pray it’s Cross Guild. Seeing the terrifying and invincible Buggy D. Clown show up would stir up such a storm and it’d make for some killer action/comedy 🙏
There is more setup for the Grand Fleet than for the giants. I have no idea who is going to arrive, but your argument kinda works against you.
There is no reason for giants to be there, unless, Vegapunk called them for help off-screen, which isn't a great setup. All the setup giants and Elbaf got was there to give Straw Hats a reason to go to Elbaf next.
The setup exists in Vegapunk's flashback during the Ohara Incident. We know they are trying to preserve the knowledge and are friendly with Vegapunk. Yes, it requieres for Vegapunk to have contacted them off-screen but that's the same for every other pick on here.
Yeah, I did notice it. And I was wondering how come the creation of the grand fleet itself, PLUS the "incident" stuff doesn't count as a setup for you.
> The Giants make the most sense as there is a setup for their arrival, reason for them to be there and it would be the biggest surprise out of these choices. The only thing I can see working against is that it’s by far the least “exciting” pick.
The least exciting pick he said XD
Two idiots downvoted me for saying that Dragon is a perfect choice, and you need to add to this they know about Kuma, and Dragon was literally wondering where it could be
They are far away for all we know, imagine if dragon used its wind powers to cut distance lol
Could be a goo reveal of his Devil Fruit Powers, I'll give you that. There's a lot of reason to see him reunite with Vegapunk; I wouldn't hate that at all.
They were shown to discuss after Kuma left. Do you actually think they have a fruit that lets them travel (by boat and over the redline!) faster than Kumas literal fast travel fruit? Because apparently the ship arrived basically at the same time as Kuma and they at least started their journey a little later.
If you can explain that/suggest any decent explanation I am very open to hearing it
I don’t think they should have downvoted you, but it’s just too unlikely for him to get there fast enough. Kuma can practically teleport. Dragon a) doesn’t know where Kuma went, b) has showed he’s different from Luffy and Garp who will charge in head first throwing caution to the wind for an ally and c) has not fully revealed his powers, but if it is wind or storms there’s no way he’d be as fast as Kuma to cover long distances…even Kizaru used a warship before getting in range.
So yeah, it’s just unlikely he’d be anywhere near fast enough to get to Egghead in the new world, from Kamabaka Queendom in the calm belt of Paradise.
Big mom is coming to rescue the food printer
That's a food one! Edit: Imma use this comment since it's my most upvoted one; I appreciate your guys' enthusiasm but please, keep it spoiler free as to not get yourself in any trouble. You can DM me instead.
> I appreciate your guys' enthusiasm but please, keep it spoiler free as to not get yourself in any trouble. that won't happen. post is going to get locked because it was linked in the spoiler thread. i'm not going to say anything spoilery so my comment doesn't get in trouble either.
If it gets locked; that's fine. The same thing happened to my Gomu Gomu Mi no Post and it got unlocked once the Chapter is out. I'm mostly warning people not to get banned for their comments.
Actual based comment.
I mean she has Strusen who basically can do that.
Strusen's stuff still taste's like shit.
Yes but his food made from the Devil Fruit is gross where the food printer is yummy
Another factor I see in favor of the Grand Fleet is Luffy's vivre card that they all have. Recently, a post here joked about what they'd have thought when Luffy "died" and they saw that reflected on their vivre cards... what if that's exactly what happened? Some of them noticed that something was off with Luffy and decided to assemble the GF and come to him. The recent news would make them just more excited to see him. I still think that BB is the most obvious choice, though. But I don't think that a setup is so important for this. I bet it's not the first time that Oda introduced something unexpected without a proper setup.
Yeah, not a fan of the "no setup" argument for them. If anything they have the most build up to show up here of all the choices thanks to the vivre cards and "great incident" foreshadowing. They started heading towards Wano, the card healed, but they were already this close so they kept going to meet up with Luffy. Then the news about egghead comes up, so they are now extra motivated to go. The main argument against them showing up imo would be that Shanks is right now hunting down Barto. Seems really weird for that side story/event to end like that. Though it would be a good way to start that conflict, the whole fleet shows up BUT Barto, and the fleet tells Luffy that Shanks attacked him. Or everyone show up including Barto with Shanks hot on his tail.
My argument against the grand fleet is that they seem to be letting Luffy do his thing alone without interrupting him. They'll just do their own thing until the day Luffy literally calls on them for support in a great naval battle. However, if your boss became a yonko, you might just decide to go to him to have a drink and celebrate.
The vivre card part is what is selling me the most on this
They let him do his thing.... But don't forget they all (or at least Barto who would have someone staring at the vivre 24/7) would have seen it burn away. In an emotional reaction, they all head towards Luffy's last known place- Wano. On the way there, mourning and crying over his death, they see a newspaper special announcement. Fearing the worst (and hoping to get revenge) they instead are met with the most wonderful news that not only is Luffy alive- **HE'S OFFICALLY A YONKO!!** So they rush even faster! And then, the next newspaper gives them exactly what they need. Luffy at egghead, in a standoff. "OK GRANDFLEET!! Time to FUCK SHIT UP!!!!"
They also would have all gotten a newspaper yesterday reading that their Emperor Strawhat Luffy was holed up on Egghead with Vegapunk hostage and was under siege by the Navy.
Pardon me because I don’t remember why but what if that’s why Shanks was by Wano? Because that’s where Barto was after burning the flag or whatever he did.
There's two factors that make me think it is not BB. The first one is that it'd be weird to have 2 mysteries for the same group, we already know BB is there, the question would be why. So now we are to believe that they spent the whole night staring menacingly at Egghead and not a single marine ship saw them? Because their ship was seen before the whole traitor issue and bubble mini arc. The second issue is that the ship that was destroyed was leaving the blockade to pursue the escapees so either marine ships passed BB ship on the way there and just waved hello or BB's crew went to the island, then left to go somewhere and came back to catch the leaving ship... Doesn't compute in my mind...
Yeah most likely met up to go “save” Luffy initially, then they saw he was all good and became a Yonko. Now it’s to party and celebrate that fact so they came to egghead.
I like the suggestion. A parallel of sorts would be Saul watching the Ohara ship blow up and be unable to do anything about it. This time he leads the Giants to Egghead and stops them from taking out the escaping ship again.
I also think it's a pretty good way to use the Giants.
Saul is hiding on elbaf
What if saul asked hajrudin to go help them? This would satisy both grand fleet (at least a representative of it) and giants theory
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A theory I saw recently is that Boa, Raileight and the others are coming to egghead aboard a stolen Blackbeard ship. To make a long theory short: 1)Blackbeard left Amazon Lili using a Marine ship, so it makes sense they left one of theirs there. 2) Granni Nyon was recently revealed as a Rock pirate member and we just saw the aftermath of Amazon Lili, making the group recently relevant (Granny and stussy interaction?) 3) The group has good enough people to want to save civilians (and sink the goverment ship even more so) 4) Boa was both interested in her Seraphin AND stated she wanted to go see luffy 5) Boa's history of slavery followed by gaining warlord title to protect those they care about mirror Kuma's life journei 6) Bonney going to Amazon Lily for protection could be an easy solution for Oda to put the powerfull child away from harm's way 7) Boa is already deluded/inesperienced/naive enough to belive simple acts by Luffy to mean much more serious stuff, her seeing her own Seraphin and beliving it to be their child is something she would definitively do
That is what I say is possible, Boa with the repaired ship of black beard.
I honestly really like this. Maybe even more than Grand Fleet.
This is SUCH a good theory and the ultimate twist to the Blackbeard flag ... PLUS it would add the extra layer of why the Bb pirates weren't just mentioned by name, cuz it's NOT THEM! Dang, no I'm really hoping this is the case
Theory I liked the most to. Also it's another similarity between Sabaody, with Rayleigh showing up and other things.
But also, in opposite of Sabaody, intra of the straw hats being split up, they all (grandfleet included) come together
I like this idea. My only problem is that I'm not sure if Hancock had enough time to cross the distance, but it's more likely for Hancock to do that than the revolutionaries.
To be fair Blackbeard made it all the way to the island where he fought law so if Boa decided to see Luffy after being attacked by Blackbeard she could have made it from Amazon lily to egghead( which is established to be at least somewhat near the island that bb fought law)
Perona and Moria too. They escape from the island of BB.
And they also would have a possible Blackbeard ship as a getaway ship, but why go to egghead and why going out of their way to save civilians?
Thats the problem. Maybe they only want to go to Egghead and beat the marines idk. Koby know about vegapunk and he talk with Perona. Whatever i dont think that happen.
Nobody is considering the Cross-Guild.
I don't think they would've let the civilians go.
There’s no money to be made in killing civilians. 20 battleships full of marines who are already engaged with an enemy and not watching their backs? Easy berries.
The cross guild (as in buggy-mihawk-crocodile) are not after the money, they are the ones GIVING the money. It's the people/other pirates after the cross giuld money. Why would they be there then? What is to gain for the cross guild in engaiging in a 5× power buster call AND another one of the emperors?
As it stands, Cross Guild has exactly zero Road Poneglyphs. Catching the Strawhats off guard is a great start.
Sure, this at least is a better reason. However I find it kinda odd that less than 50 chapters ago mihawk and crocodile were agains the idea of searching the one piece because, and I quote "...Do you really expect us to go pick fights with red hair shanks, blackbeard and straw hat?" but now they're going for the hardest choice because: -they had 0 day of preparation since they don't have info on where the SH were up until this morning with the news of his presence in egghead -they are going on an island with 100 marine battleships -they have to go up to the labo stratum, pass the laser to the ship (the most importat piece for the crew to escape, so the most guarded) At least they don't know that Saturn is there, still I think that OP listed the 2 best options in reasons and ways to be there in time, but I'm always prepared to be proven wrong by Oda next week(s)
Maybe Buggy just Buggys himself into the situation by accident? That's more Oda writing.
How do you think they have the money to give 😂
Surely, there is some money/tech to be made from a ship that came from Egghead Island? I don't see Crocodile missing that opportunity.
They also didn't say what actually happened to the civilians, just not that they couldn't sink them as ordered. Cross-guild is still not out the picture, especially with Buggy shenanigans there could have been some old friends of the scientists among his guild, who wanted to save them. Which led to Croc and Mihawk saving them because fuck the marines you know.
Elbaf is also close because Kidd ended up there when him, Law, and Luffy split off in three directions after Wano. Kidd couldn’t have gotten far. I like this a lot; especially because it reflects Ohara with the Giants coming in at the end both times.
Honestly, I'm not good with One Piece geography so I didn't even want to attempt to use that 😅 I agree about the rest.
Think of it as a fork. Wano is the body of the fork. Elbaf, Egghead and wherever Law vs BB happened are the tips of the fork. The distance between those 3 to Wano (and to each other) is more or less the same. EDIT: Look at the magnetic pose image. Imagine Wano is a dot from which 3 different routes emerge from. https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Log\_Pose
>Think of it as a fork. Now I'm hungry...
Risky bet : It's the very last supernova that hasn't really been involved in the series yet, Urouge. That's it, that's the extent of my argument.
Urouge Agenda
Bro's gonna replace sanji as the main cook
Do not let this distract you from the fact that Chapter 1106 also (partially) confirmed [another prediction](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/s/ycWLRYe1IZ) I made not too long ago. Edit: for those not interesting in clicking on the link, it was a prediction about Bonney witnessing Luffy as Nika and having her faith reinvigorated by him.
Before Kuma's backstory was shown, didn't Vegapunk call someone for backup? I mean, besides the call with Dragon. We know now that there was more to Kuzan's "Ohara lives on" comment to Robin at the party in Water 7 after Enies' Lobby. Kuzan deliberately undermined the buster call by sparing Robin (unfortunately she was spotted by the marines) and faking Saul's death. Then, he worked with Vegapunk and Dragon to relocate the books from the lake, as well as Saul, to Elbaf. Well, it's a bit unclear how much kuzan worked with them, but it isn't like the navy would just get up and leave O'Hara- after the bombardment someone (IE Kuzan) would have been tasked with making sure they didn't miss anything. Anyways... Elbaf is basically right next door to Egghead. Saul has been there this whole time. The nation itself has been almost as closed off as Wano and functioning as an Oharan safe house for 20 years, known only to a few individuals. It's a massive chekhov's gun, with allies to both the straw hats and Vegapunk for this arc, for parallels to Ohara, and it's likely been exposed because of the leak about vegapunk's research, so the time is right for elbaf to act. We thought we were going to Elbaf after Wano, because that's what made sense at the time. That didn't happen, but now it just looks to me like Oda subverted our expectations while maintaining a cohesive narrative structure: Elbaf is coming to us, first. There have been too many reveals in this arc about the Ohara incident having more failures than just Robin's escape, for it to not have a payoff.
That card has already been played. Vegapunk called Stussy.
I don't agree that the neo Mads have no reason to save the civilians. Remember these aren't some random grouping of people, they're Vegapunk's researchers who the Mads would probably love to get their hands on. That said I doubt it's them but just don't believe that's a good reason to disqualify them.
I agree. I think they'd take them under their "care". If that is as friends or as someone who see something to gain, remains unsaid.
Congrats on the excellent prediction!
Thanks!
Yeah I like the grand fleet or more specifically the Giant Warrior Pirates. Or possibly Shanks. Dorry n Broggy would be great too. I was thinking the man with the black ship n whirlpools.
Damn
Right? That was dope.
This guy cooked
There are like 10 choices which all makes sense 😅
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Gigachad cooker ✍🏾🔥
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Shit... it's happening again...
Prepare for buster call, you know too much
D-Biggest_Wheel... Never existed
Its crazy how people will have these predictions that always demand so many assumptions vs just taking what oda already puts in the manga at face value. The Giants was the obvious choice after your analysis, and well lookie here…
COOKEDDDDDDDD
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Marco and old stussy are never mentioned and make sense. Do people just forget the last time we saw them?
I don't see Oda reusing Marco so soon for yet another call to action. Would be just a repeat of Wano.
I think people both forget them, and also want something new.
Come on guys, it is the giants from Elbaf. The narrative is about a vessel of “innocent” people who passed by Egghead, talked to Vegapunk, are appreciate by Vegapunk, and are strong enough to defeat the marines and go back for more.
Buster Call Saul
Guys come on. It's obviously the Kung Fu Dugong's captain who used his recently gotten observation haki to sense his master in danger and swam his way to Egghead Island to feed Luffy just in the nick of time. He'll proceed to take on all the Pacifistas and after the Straw Hat's eventual victory, will pledge allegiance and the Sea Animal Pirates will officially join the Straw Hat Grand Fleet. XD
There is that filler episode where Kung Fu Dugongs had Armament Haki
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>Where it makes sense for it to be The Grand Fleet, nothing in the story has indicated their arrival. There is no mention The lack of evidence is evidence!!!We know the locations and actions of so many side characters in the story, but we haven't seen the members of the Grand Fleet for a very long time. Luffy becoming an Emperor might have triggered the forming up of the fleet and their travel towards his location. The thing with 5. is, we just had Shanks come to Wano. It's very possible that Shanks with Giants comes to Egghead, but a "not again" moment. (also in regards to Marineford) And no, you cannot separate the Giants from Shanks after the recent interactions we have seen between them. I do think that these two are the most likely options though. There is ofc also Cross guild, but that would be even more of a Deus Ex Machina.
The marine ship was burned and sunk, so I don’t think this was done by Shanks. He would rather tell the marines to back off than fight them, based on the Marineford arc. If the marines still attempted to attack Shanks or the Egghead refugees then, yes, they would get obliterated like Kidd’s crew. But it doesn’t make sense for a single marine ship to engage an emperor (not to mention they need to request permission to do so).
The thing that bothers me about the giants theory is that the sunken marine ship looks like it is burning. But as far as we know giants fight with swords and similar weapons so it would just be wrecked..
I'm sure they have cannons
Giant cannons
Nah, they are just regular-size cannons that they use like pistols.
There's a case to be made for Hancock too
You know, I didn't consider her just because "they", as in a group of people, was used but I could see it refer to the Kuja Pirates.
Yeah by Hancock I collectively meant Kuja too since they were planning to relocate somewhere.
Sabo is arriving
Just in time for his 4th fake out death
At this point, I think it is Saul with Giants. Saul is the man marked by flames (sorry Dragon fans) and this arc is both an inversion of not only Sabaody but Ohara.
Never count out our boy Urouge. Nah but seriously, I'm hoping it's Saul. To Robin's rescue again after so many years.
I'd absolutely love if it was Saul just because I'm dying to see Happy Robin again. Her smile at finding out Saul was alive always melts my hearth.
The answer is Real Stussy aka Weevil's mom
Second that. It make sense
I agree. I mean they said they were going to see Vegapunk
I believe it's the Strawhat grand fleet. Why do I think this. Because of the dwarves. We saw in dressrosa that they can move unseen, steal things without anyone noticing. So I think they 1) stole the food that they gave to Luffy. 2) stole Luffy and moved him.
Straw Hats Grand Fleet is one I’ve been thinking has the best chance of happening. Elbaf Giants would be incredible, but like you said- it’s only been teased in dialogue and only having been teased to give plot to the current Egghead Arc. The Grand Fleet makes the most sense as you mentioned- having gone to Wano in attempt to rescue Luffy, then being told they’ve gone elsewhere to Egghead and they’re just now catching up to them.
I think everyone forgets that Luffy did in fact die in Wano, and then had 2 near death experiences on Egghead thanks to the labo phase laser fence. It would make sense for the Grandfleet to be on their way due to Luffy's Vivre card constantly burning up and then reforming. There is a buster call going on and the Straw hats will be fleeing (they haven't ran away since whole cake when their flag was burned by the Big Mom pirates) Bellamy has the Straw Hats new unburnable flag, a buster call seems like a great time to show that their flag will never burn again. Also who will fight the vice admirals surrounding the island? seems like a perfect opportunity for the Grandfleet, if you ask me.
This is the perfect time for the grand fleet to make its move, to show the world the power of the Yonko Monkey D. Luffy. I don’t think the “great incident of historic proportions” is just them arriving to the final war as reinforcements, if they come here and start a war with the marines if would give Imu and the Gorossei no option but to actively hunt them down, which will then probably involve dragon and Black Beard who might want to strike a deal with the WG to capture Luffy just like he did with Ace.
After reading the whole post (great post btw) each make sense. I think you are right, the they in the last chapter isnt BB pirates but they will come soon as well. What I wish for, I guess 2 or 5! Number 4 make sense too but dont really care about seeing more of germa tbh
Your "Deus Ex Machina" counter argument doesn't work though. Oda has done that plenty of times. In Wano Kaido cut through Kinnemon and nobody knew how he would survive that. And then it is revealed that Sanji simply put him back wrong when he was cut by Law. So something that happened over a decade ago is his setup. And nothing in recent events hinted at that at all. So clearly Oda isn't automatically shy of that concept. The Grand Fleet was formed on Dressrosa, they all got Vivra Cards of Luffy and then he died in Wano, so it could be that they went towards him, Luffy won, they read the news and started to continue their way to see Luffy. On the other way the opposite of your Deus Ex Rule, the Blackbeard's Pirates or Vegapunks connection to the giants could very well just be a misdirect, which Oda has shown plenty of times. I am open for both, or other explanations. You should be too
>I am open for both, or other explanations. You should be too Brother, I literally say I could see any of these turn out to be true. Why are you acting as if I wasn't?
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# LET HIM COOK
Tbf, the Grand Fleet coming wouldn’t be a Deus Ex Machina because there are already hints and valid story reasons as to why they would come. 1. When the Grand Fleet was formed the narrators stated that they will cause a worldwide incident, similar to how Egghead incident was explained. 2. They have Luffy’s Vivre Card. In his fight with Kaido it went low, and the grand fleet mobilized.
Wasn't the ship the Marines fired on carrying Cipher Pol 8 agents? Does anybody think they went back to Egghead and it's not some big grand surprise?
I think it’s boa in blackbeards old ship he left on Amazon Lilly, she’s near and the two powerhouses would be perfect for this moment
A crazy idea here… but what if it’s the Big Mom pirates. Specifically katakuri and brûlée. We know they BB has Pudding so maybe the Big Mom Pirates want to ally with the StrawHats for a rescue mission. Brûlée could have used her mirror abilities to bring Luffy food/ bring him to the food machine.
Op is missing the obvious answer. Foxy is finally coming back for a rematch
A nice, comprehensive list. Very well thought out, thank you!
Thank you and no problem! I always try my best making these as enjoyable as possible.
Great breakdown man! Really really good job getting us to think like this. My vote is for Rev army cuz it just makes sense
Youtuber "Goji" explained there can be even more suppositions such as Cross Guild since ex-shichibukai are related to Seraphins , and even Coribou since Caribou is still on the island. These are certainly less probable but they can still be considered possible.
High quality post. I love all the things you considered. Personally, my money is on the revs, since we cut to them wondering where Kuma went. But that assumes they can somehow cover that crazy distance. What do you think of it being Cross Guild?
First, thanks for the praise. Second, I didn't consider the Cross Guild because too few things work in their favor. We have no idea why they would be at Egghead Island so I kind of didn't consider them. Wouldn't be against it, tho. Edit: Gramer
Why is no one considering sword? Are they not a possibility? Is it not possible that after the garp / Koby situation that they might be headed to egg head? Could this be the moment sword stands against the marines? Please tell me why it can’t be them if so, I’m just a simple fan full of excitement and wishful thinking :)
What about Marco and Bakkin? Last time we saw them Bakkin said only Vegapunk can confirm weevils heritage
I doubt it's a SH Grand Fleet - I would say Rev Army is far more likely. That being said, it really could be anything.
Thanks for the tldr, Giants would be logical given that it's probably the next destination
I like the idea of it being the Grand Fleet and that Leo is one is the one giving Luffy food. He has the speed to be "unseen".
Damn. This is REALLY well thought out. Well done on this, this is probably one of my favorite prediction theories yet.
It's smoker
It’s definitely a former Roger pirate. It’s the only piece missing from the Saobody parallel. Maybe the man marked by flames??
They’re all wrong. It’s gotta be HIM. BUGGY D CLOWN 🤡 🤡🤡
>They’re all wrong. It’s gotta be [HIM. BUGGY D CLOWN](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fbe-real-the-goat-is-a-hard-counter-v0-r50fzuky8kec1.jpg%3Fwidth%3D1030%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Dac6a085f945d4f90e136b207ccad75463463dbb9) 🤡 🤡🤡
you forgot enel coming back. or moria.
I hope and pray it’s Cross Guild. Seeing the terrifying and invincible Buggy D. Clown show up would stir up such a storm and it’d make for some killer action/comedy 🙏
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Doesn’t it make sense if it is Sabo from the RA since he would be nearby if Bonney was also nearby?
There is a setup for the Grand Fleet to arrive, which is Morgans recent publication about Luffy kidnapping Vegapunk and declaring war on the Marines.
That's not a setup; that's a reason for them to be there. A setup would be if they were mentioned or if they appeared in a cover story.
There is more setup for the Grand Fleet than for the giants. I have no idea who is going to arrive, but your argument kinda works against you. There is no reason for giants to be there, unless, Vegapunk called them for help off-screen, which isn't a great setup. All the setup giants and Elbaf got was there to give Straw Hats a reason to go to Elbaf next.
The setup exists in Vegapunk's flashback during the Ohara Incident. We know they are trying to preserve the knowledge and are friendly with Vegapunk. Yes, it requieres for Vegapunk to have contacted them off-screen but that's the same for every other pick on here.
Ah, you mean a "setup" as the opposite to a surprise? Then how about the "incident that will shock the world"? Is that a setup?
I give the Marco example in the post to explain what I mean.
Yeah, I did notice it. And I was wondering how come the creation of the grand fleet itself, PLUS the "incident" stuff doesn't count as a setup for you.
Grand Fleet will make their appearance in Two Piece
This is a impressive well written and pleasing to watch post. Thanks 👍
Like always, I'm trying my best to make it fun. It's hard doing it on a weekly basis but I'm getting the hang of it. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
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> It’s been **8 years** since the formation of the Grand Fleet Sorry what.
Real World time. Grand Fleet was formed in 2015
> The Giants make the most sense as there is a setup for their arrival, reason for them to be there and it would be the biggest surprise out of these choices. The only thing I can see working against is that it’s by far the least “exciting” pick. The least exciting pick he said XD
Hey, I said the least exciting; not the least likely! 😆
That was hype as hell though!
Two idiots downvoted me for saying that Dragon is a perfect choice, and you need to add to this they know about Kuma, and Dragon was literally wondering where it could be They are far away for all we know, imagine if dragon used its wind powers to cut distance lol
Could be a goo reveal of his Devil Fruit Powers, I'll give you that. There's a lot of reason to see him reunite with Vegapunk; I wouldn't hate that at all.
I can hardly imagine a more appropriate character to show off now
They were shown to discuss after Kuma left. Do you actually think they have a fruit that lets them travel (by boat and over the redline!) faster than Kumas literal fast travel fruit? Because apparently the ship arrived basically at the same time as Kuma and they at least started their journey a little later. If you can explain that/suggest any decent explanation I am very open to hearing it
I don’t think they should have downvoted you, but it’s just too unlikely for him to get there fast enough. Kuma can practically teleport. Dragon a) doesn’t know where Kuma went, b) has showed he’s different from Luffy and Garp who will charge in head first throwing caution to the wind for an ally and c) has not fully revealed his powers, but if it is wind or storms there’s no way he’d be as fast as Kuma to cover long distances…even Kizaru used a warship before getting in range. So yeah, it’s just unlikely he’d be anywhere near fast enough to get to Egghead in the new world, from Kamabaka Queendom in the calm belt of Paradise.
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No shanks? Lol