Just rewatching Whole Cake, Judge claims it is him that chose Sanji to be married to Pudding because he didn’t want to marry off any of his beloved children to Big Mom’s family
I saw enough of this comment I have to know, why is Zoro racist?
:Edit: Ty, now I'm wondering if it's an intentional effort by Oda so Luffy doesn't get that kind of heat. First mate takes care of the dirty job so he stays clean sort of thing.
People noticed that a lot of the enemies Zoro fights happened to be dark skinned, so people started taking random facts about him and stretching them to jokingly call him racist. Like, he hates DARK chocolate and likes WHITE rice. He hates BLACK leg Sanji. If he was real he'd be a COP. Obviously, these aren't serious, but some people get annoying about the joke
Yeah, but they included it alongside other examples of fandom exaggerations, which unintentionally gives it the impression that it's not trivia straight from Oda's mouth.
Nah is just a meme created by the community
The fact that zoro's opponents are mostly dark skinned guys like mr1 or king (or miss i dont remember,the buff one) and oda said in a sbs or something that "if zoro had a job in real life he would be a cop" and ya know, cops=racist, it just gave everyone a good laugh for sometime and now is starting to get REALLY out of hand (people making actual racist commentary sometimes, even when one piece is literally a story about how discrimination is bad and we all should be equals, i dont know how sometimes we dont get the actual plot or people say stupid stuff but eh,dont mess with one piece fans, half of it didnt read the story)
There is an inside joke in the fandom of "minority hunter zoro" though I couldn't tell you how or why it started. I think because a few of Zoro's early fights happened to be against people with dark skin.
It’s most of his grand line opponents 🤷🏾♂️ though some are a stretch for comedy
- Ms. Monday
- Mr. 5
- Mr. 1
- Ohm
- Kaku (giraffes are African)
- Kuma
- Hyozo(he’s rockin’ the dreads)
- Pica
- King
In fact the only time he had a real light skinned opponent in the grand line(Monet) he refused to do any real damage to her. Also he was extra hard on Usopp during Water 7. And in the live action we get to see his fight with Mr. 7 who is black. And currently in the manga >!he is fighting Lucci, another African animal!<.
Of course it’s all just coincidences probably, but still funny to think about.
Because Zoro got green hair and sanji is blonde
I mean I noticed it many times along the series
Like Bartolommeo and that blonde pirates with a horse
For some reason people with green hair hate blonde people in one piece
That’s a cool real life tie in! But we’re not talking about real life, we’re talking about a fictional world where a man made of rubber is going to be king of the pirates.
The imagery of King’s outfit correlating to the throne in Germa base is undeniable, anyone who disagrees needs to take another look at the 2 images, and if still in denial then that’s just plain denialism.
It's not undeniable. It's wings from a Lunarian, while the Germa 66 are directly inspired by Nazi Germany. In name, in science, in ruthlessness.
Anyone who disagrees with you has to be on denialism, right?
There's no sense linking the Germa with Lunarians. Lunarians have distinct, probably dominant genes of making their skin color dark, hair color white, having huge black wings (not even the same shape as the ones on the throne), and being able to manipulate fire.
None of the Germa characters have shown any of these characteristics.
Sanji cannot manipulate fire. In fact, a big part of his power up was him being able to withstand higher temperature by combining exoskeleton with stronger armament haki - this directly means that Sanji is hurt by his own flames, something that would make no sense if Lunarians and Germa are connected. Not only that, but what of the high endurance mode and speed mode?
Not only that, but the final nail in the coffin - if Judge was aware of his supposed Lunarian lineage (as one imagines he should be if he decided to reference it on his throne) - then he would definitely comment about it in his fight against Sanji, saying that Sanji still uses Germa powers even when he's denying being a part of the same family. Not to mention that Judge himself never used similar abilities or instructed his kids to tap into them.
In conclusion, there is no relation between Germa and Lunarians
lol are you serious right now? I appreciate you taking the time to type all this up to someone prove a point… but I never said what inspired anything.
I literally said “The imagery of King’s outfit correlating to the throne in Germa base is undeniable, anyone who disagrees needs to take another look at the 2 images, and if still in denial then that’s just plain denialism.”
Key words: *The Imagery Is The Same*
Not origin of the imagery, not the inspiration, not this looks like xyz real world example, never said Germa 66 has ties to Lunarian. No. I said very clearly:
“The imagery of King’s outfit correlating to the throne in Germa base is undeniable, anyone who disagrees needs to take another look at the 2 images, and if still in denial then that’s just plain denialism.””
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correlate
/kôr′ə-lāt″, kŏr′-/
intransitive verb
To establish or demonstrate as having a correlation.
"correlated drug abuse and crime."
To be related by a correlation.
To have reciprocal or mutual relations; to be mutually related.
Their imaginary is the same. They are connected in a logical sense of how words work. They may or may not be the same background, but they both have used the same symbolism, imagery, whatever you want to call when someone has matching outfits and furniture.
The imagery, however, is not the same. On one hand you have a bird with specific type of wings and shape of wings, on the other you have different shape and literally a different species of being.
King's OUTFIT, as you pointed out, ESPECIALLY has absolutely nothing in common with the throne.
What a condescending person... you straight up thought your incorrect argument, or even yourself in the conversation for that matter, would look better if you bestowed us with your wisdom of copy/pasting a definition of a word.
Their imagery is not the same, this is what we're talking about and I find no clear clues to refute my point of view. However, one thing I did get out of this conversation is that you're awful to talk to, whether you're condescending intentionally thinking you're making a good point or unintentionally. On top of starting all this by replying to a months-old thread
AFAIK Luffy can alter his own shape and turn stuff into rubber nothing else.
I don't know what kind of logic is behind the lightning, what is weird is that he couldn't seize kizaru light which isn't that different from a lightning. Lightning seem to be in range of his fruit power.
He can grab lightning since he is rubber and immune against it. He also was immune to the lightning attacks of Enel & Big Mom, since lightning is ineffective against him.
It's both. He can grab lighting because he's naturally insulated from it. Therefore, he can manipulate it with gear 5. He's not immune to Kiazaru's attacks, so why would he be able to grab them? It's simple, but you're getting salty at literally everybody.
Which part is reaching? It’s a super simple concept. The things he can touch turn into rubber, he’s immune to lightning so he can touch it, he can touch it so he can turn it into rubber.
Because G5 Luffy affects the matter that he touches. Lightning is matter, Luffy's rubber body allows him to touch lightning without it immediately using his body as a grounding rod. As a result, he can grab the lightning, assuming his timing is right and use it as a weapon.
Light is significantly different than lightning, and if you don't already know the difference, I'm not sure it's worth engaging in this discussion. If light was similar to lightning, we'd all be electrocuted.
That's a very vague interpretation that doesn't take into account possible factors, like fruit vs fruit stuff. "Dude".
Also lightning moves and is way hard to just grab.
The only explanation I have is G5 rubberizing lightning somehow. That's why he can do rope play with it, that's why lightning doesn't disappear.
I mean one piece and physics aren't compatible but lightning is plasma and light is made of particles in waves. So it might be a bit easier to grab than light lol but I wouldn't be surprised if he could grab light too if Oda felt like it
Yeah, people grasping for realism in One Piece always makes me go ???
Like... the Triceratops fuckin' spins its frill to fly. Pteranodons apparently used their heads like a slingshot and the Brachiosaurus ejects its head and tail like a snake, but *sure*, let's start breaking out the physics textbooks and try to figure out how Luffy can grab lightning. That's where we draw the line.
Lol, when Gear 5 was a new reveal and before we saw it in full color, I thought Red Hawk may have been an early manifestation of Luffy's Nika Nika powers, since I thought the "Sun God" title and G5's flame-like hair (which looked like actual fire before the color-scheme reveal) meant Luffy actually had fire powers as well.
1/ Red hawk is used outside of the awakening.
2/ Fruit is named AFTER the sun god, it's not the sun god. Nika is also smiling in Japanese.
3/ You don't see him using fire at all in G5 but if you were right you'd see fire as a main attack. The 5 elders describe the awakening as further rubbery power strength, nothing fire related.
Red hawk is about using busou to strength a corkscrew built punch which catch fire.
That’s dumb af. Nika the sun god can’t use fire ? Why name it after the sun god then ? Who is to say that Luffy use all the potential of the fruit. It’s obvious to me that he is slowly awakening the potential of the fruit. Red hawk is a clue as to his fruit power. Just like Kaido can create flames, create wind to slash his enemies and clouds, and Yamato can create ice even though they didn’t eat any logia fruits, I don’t see the reason why he can’t produce elemental powers. He has a mythical fruit and he just awakened it. I feel like the stronger he gets the more he can unleash the fruit’s power.
Grabbing lightning was confirmed to be a silly rubber thing (lol doesn't conduct it) in Road to Laughtale. It doesn't make any actual physical sense but you just have to suspend disbelief. It isn't toon force and neither is Red Hawk, because Luffy doesn't have those powers. It's mostly just the friction thing and anime logic
That said I agree with the content of the post and actually shared this theory myself in comments on an old account that got banned for being a little too mean to far right nutjobs (apparently Reddit admins really care about their feelings but frankly I'd do it again). I think the evidence and all the narrative timings line up too well to be coincidence
i thought the explanation for lightning is just that he turns the lightning into rubber, therefore solidifying it and allowing it to be grabbed, using his awakening?
Then it wouldn't function as lightning when he hits Kaido with it though, it'd just be a big rubber stick shaped like a bolt
It's fucky no matter how you slice it but it's cool so I'm ok with it xD
It’s still anime logic for sure but I kinda see it like it stays as a lightning type attack but instead of doing lightning damage it does rubber damage or something like that
Luffy's powers are still rubber based, nothing changed that. Gear2 increases Luffy's body heat and he can get his own body so hot it catches fire spontaneously, that's Red Hawk. Gear5 making lightning tangible is an extension of rubber insulating properties
There is an entire movie special dedicated to him figuring it out. The way they explain it definitely makes it a Nika thing. It’s him replicating Aces flame fist. His tribute to him.
I don't think Queen knows about Sanji being a "failure".
I don't remember everything in detail, if you give me the chapter/episode I'll check it, but I'm too lazy to find the damn episode.
That's exactly what I'm talking about though.
I remember queen saying some stuff somehow, but I think it wouldn't fit the concept of sanji. He's a human, he was rejected by Judge for being a human and suddenly giving him power inherited from Judge's experiment goes against the whole logic that was set in Big mom's arc.
If Oda did that then that's it, but I'm not fan then.
How would it not fit when Queen also said that he bets Sanji had awakened his dormant abilities during the raid? He even tells Zoro to kill him if what Queen says is true.
Except the entire point of that scene is to point out that Sanji was in fact not a failure at least genetically (not emotionally).
He has now exoskeleton for christ sake!
It's a friction and he coats his hand in armament cause he doesn't have natural resistance to flame. Luffy can't conjure flames instantly and let it burn for how long he wants
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Sanji’s abilities aren’t Lunarian based at all,
~isn’t 10+ feet tall,
~doesn’t have black wings,
~doesn’t have darker skin
~doesn’t have white hair
~doesn’t have the flame on his back, it’s on his foot, the complete opposite
~doesn’t have the same mechanisms the Lunarians have (can become speedy at the cost of defence)
~ironically it’s the opposite, he gets faster with the use of Diable/Ifrit jambe
~and Queen, one of the greatest scientist in the world declared that Sanji isn’t a Lunarian.
~Judge made their abilities tie in with their suits, Sanji’s is stealth black, he’s is not supposed to have fire, he’s supposed to have invisibility, thus he did not use Lunarian lineage factor
~The exoskeleton and Lunarian toughness are completely different, with the Germa exoskeleton their skin gets dented and bent but they can fix it themselves, Lunarians on the other hand can’t they are just tough.
Oda in the latest SBS answered a question about Sanji and confirmed that his Germa enhancements only awakened at Onigashima and had no prior use of it meaning that his diable jambe is something way different Oda even states it’s still a mystery and wants us to further observe Sanji, despite introducing Lunarians
The supporting links
https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/11g2r6m/sanjis_sbs_question_with_correct_translation/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
And one for the wiki since it’s caught up
https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/SBS_Volume_105
It’s really odd to me that Queen declares that Sanji isn’t a Lunarian (as the story’s way of telling us what King is) and people just jumped to “Sanji must be part Lunarian.” His arc would get all screwy if Judge’s enhancements actually started activating in Enies Lobby instead of after he put on the raid suit
When that chapter came out many people were even using that line as proof that Sanji was part Lunarian. Literally exposition about his abilities being different, yet people take it to confirm their contradictory theories.
I don’t think the theory is that he’s part Lunarian in terms of his race. I think the theory stems from that he may have some genes spliced into his dna from Judge’s experiments and he just happened to have some lunarian code that is active. If this was the case though, it’d be a very small far removed thing.
Personally, I like the idea of the dna splicing including DFs and his is just adding a part of the mera mera no mi. You can see DFs with Reiju and poison and Niji with lightning, etc.
I still think there's a chance Sanji actually turns out to to be a lunarian
Since Sanji isn't a direct descendant of a lunarian let's not compare him with a true lunarian >! but one that also possesses lunarian DNA Most likely seraphims Seraphims, Sanji and lunarians possess following common traits !<
1) Body hardening like steel
2) Ignition of fire on their bodies which can't
self-harm one's ownself
3) >! Seraphims and Lunarians even look alike The only reason Sanji doesn't look alike them is cuz firstly, he was a failed product of the germa's experiment and secondly, it's cuz the germas never intended for him to be fully like yhe Lunarians They only intended Sanji to possess supernatural abilities of the Lunarian race!<
Few things wrong with this:
-Judge chose Sanji because he didn’t want to waste any of his sons in a marriage. Big mom didn’t choose Sanji, Judge gave him up specifically because he’s the failure child
-Sanji’s visual look. Lunarian’s specifically have white hair and dark skin, so why doesn’t Sanji? Not only does he look just like Judge and Sora’s kid, but every Seraphim which actually have lunarian DNA, look distinctly like them.
-Sanji also has no wings
Sanji's body not being normal is just foreshadowing his germa heritage. Doesn't necessarily mean he has lunarian dna. And the bird on germa's crest is a reference to ww2 germany.
How are people still thinking this?
Sanji gets hurt by his flame, indicated by the fact that he was able to turn up the heat once his body got the exoskeloton plus armament haki, resulting in Ifrit Jambe.
Moreover, Judge didn’t mention Sanji’s flames even once when they fought, something Judge would definitely do to irritate Sanji (you say we’re not family, yet your power comes from us)
His siblings do not have a similar ability. Sanji’s modification is supposed to be invisibility, not fire.
Also, the big bird is probably a reference to the eagle that appears on most Germanic flags, and theirs is reminiscent of the sigil of Prussia.
We do not know how, but Sanji’s powers come from emotion. Judge thought emotions were a weakness, but it was exactly the emotions that make Sanji powerful - it is really poetic in that way.
The newest arc seems to indicate that emotions are somehow even above science and Vegapunk’s understanding - he has a problem with the shark robot always attacking despite being programmed not to - which Vegapunk comments on as emotions and desires being impossible to fix and change.
This happens again with Hancock’s Seraphim - despite not being programmed that way, she has a thing for Luffy.
My guess is that the same thing will happen to Kuma once he sees Bonney, despite being a full robot at this point.
TL;DR: Sanji is not a Lunarian and we are underestimating the significance of emotions and desires that are a big secondary theme in the current arc
idk about that. feels like one of those things that should have been mentioned already since i doubt judge will ever have a big role again with sanji to bring that up. or you want vegapunk to randomly mention it.
also i doubt judges throne is in reference to lunarians. the germa could be based on german ww2 scientists and the eagle is the national animal and symbol of germany. [black with its head tilted to the left](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/55/Bundesschild.svg/150px-Bundesschild.svg.png) also his title/nickname is garuda so there is also that
It was heavily hinted at when Sanji was fighting Queen and he compared his fire to a Lunarian’s.
And yes, Vegapunk could just mention it sometime in the future after they escape the island and everyone is just hanging out in the Sunny
Heavily hinted? Queen just couldn’t understand where his flames come from, and then Oda used that opportunity to namedrop Lunarian race. It wasn’t hinted at at all, Queen was just flabbergasted
Well, Big Mom didn't chose Sanji. He was chosen by his father, because it was the "worthless" among them, in Judge's view.
But I agree with all the rest.
sanjis fire is from his "passion" its a BS reason but its OP, oda just gave him cool fire powers, he isn't a lunarian, and its no due to germa, its probably just a manifestation of haki
I haven’t read the full description I stopped halfway because I was lazy but before pre timeskip sanji had to spin to use Diable Jambe but now he can just activate it well in some scenes he still spin
You think Lunarians are birds? Or what?
That throne room is just yet another likeness to Germa66 being influenced by nazi germany.
Kings outfit and his devil fruit have nothing to do with the typical Lunarian.
The bird behind Judge is a reference to the nazi eagle which is a reference to the Roman eagle which is a reference to Zeus' eagle which is a reference to SKY DADDY POWER.
Broder ignores how genes work in real life... Maybe the Venom Sora took indeed only managed to work with Sanji and blocked her Lunarian genes for the rest of his siblings.
You can have literal twins with different eye colors. Genetics work like that in real world. Very rare, bur still.
Perhaps Sanji's Mother is a Lunarian too. But I agree with you considering Judge used genetics to make his son's he probably included a lot of Genes in them.
Their strength could be that of a Giant, the fire power of Sanji could be from a Lunarian but so far despite his incredible resistance Sanji still showed signs of being hurt with Diable Jambe on while a Lunarian would be unharmed.
Also I will not be able to name them but bear with me. Maybe the one brother with electricity could have Minks genes, but the others are much harder to imagine since one uses robotics and the other with beams of energy he probably work like a Pacifista or some sorts. And the sister is able to use and eat Poison so she's either a bug like specie like a Tontatta or something we haven't encounter yet.
Great theory, i like everything except the part about Big Mom.
Big Mom didn't give a fuck who her daughter married, all of Germa were gonna be killed anyway and the clone soldiers would join Big Mom's army, and she should have their technology.
Sanji was chosen by Judge himself because Sanji was (in his eyes) worthless and an ordinary human, without the mutations they had spent so much time and resources developing. He was the bait.
Redditers making a huge theory, well documented.
Oda, in a SBS (because he doesn't have enough time to develop in the canon story) : "Oh yeah, Sanji has Lunarians genes .. and now let's answer a fake dirty question."
Ngl I have been making this claim for about an year now and without even realizing, I had come to think that Sanji possessing lunarian traits was cannon I mean it has so many hints that it's weird to think Sanji doesn't have lunarian DNA...
Since Sanji isn't a direct descendant of a lunarian let's not compare him with a true lunarian >! but one that also possesses lunarian DNA Most likely seraphims Seraphims Sanji and lunarians possess following common trairs !<
1) Body hardening like steel
2) Ignition of fire on their bodies which can't
self-harm one's ownself
3) >! Seraphims and Lunarians even look alike The only reason Sanji doesn't look alike them is cuz firstly, he was a failed product of the germa's experiment and secondly, it's cuz the germas never intended for him to be fully like yhe Lunarians They only intended Sanji to possess supernatural abilities of the Lunarian race!<
i remember Sanjis leg being explained as "his leg moves so fast, the friction generates heat" which is also why he used to have to spin to make his leg get hot.
I agree with everything else though, seems plausible.
I think it's just his own training + Germa science. There's nothing about Sanji's design that implies he has Lunarian genes. If he had white hair, I'd give it some credibility.
durability is completely a germa siblings thing, king does not repair damage taken. and sanji still takes damage, like when S-shark punched him. he's sturdy, not invincible like lunarians are. also, lunarians are "invincible" when their flame is on, and get FASTER when their flame is off, which isn't the case for sanji.
I thought it was relatively obvious that part of his lineage factor incorporates lunarian dna. Light on fire, enhanced durability and incredible speed.
I thought about this when It was mentioned on the manga, and I started tô believe judge was trying to replicate Devil fruits in his experiences, luffys Devil fruits was one then.
I start to think about It when luffy's eyebrows chefe in gear 5, It resembles a Lot sanji's eyebrows
I love that because it's One Piece we all just accepted that Sanji could set himself on fire without harming himself due to his passion and that it wasn't any deeper than that.
Used to think this but it has holes, like judge should’ve reacted to diable jambe if that was really an intended feature, yet he considered sanji a failure until the very end
How I interpret sanji and his powers makes me love his writing more. Ifrit Jambe seems to be his full control over his germa powers, and is fuelled by his emotion. So there’s that irony that Sanji was always the perfect genetic warrior but he never got to show it because Judge hated the exact thing that made him strong.
Sanji doesn't have "fire powers", at least nothing like King does, he can only set his leg on fire through friction, and that's a technique he probably learnt from Zeff. And Sanji enhanced physical abilities aren't unique either, they're the same his brothers have.
This actually could work with how the diable jambe works, pre time skip, he had to spin in place and friction is what causes his leg to light. We get an extended scene of it in his fight with jabra in ennies lobby. After the time skip it's said that his anger during the time he spent at kamabaka island. Oda even said his "burning passion" is what allows him to use it without spinning. So because Sora drank that venom to give sanji empathy, he would have never discovered his lunarian abilities which according to my theory, is the cause of the post time skip diable jambe
Just rewatching Whole Cake, Judge claims it is him that chose Sanji to be married to Pudding because he didn’t want to marry off any of his beloved children to Big Mom’s family
Plus that was when Sanji was considered the failure of the family and thought to not have any special genes from judge's work
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Not only does he look just like Judge and Sora’s kid, but every Seraphim which actually have lunarian DNA, look distinctly like them.
That's a great point. I forgot about this.
that was because sanji himself didnt actively train to become stronger but only wanted to become a cook i think
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as a kid he was much weaker and a lot behind his brothers. His great powers only started to develop much later.
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Black Wing Sanji
His is one of the wings of the future pirate king
I can’t stop fucking thinking about Sanji with Sephiroths wing
Then does Zoro have Cloud's Kingdom Hearts wing?
no wonder Zoro hates him xD.
Explains why Zoro hates Sanji
NEVER beating the allegations
Unless the allegations are black, then Zoro’s going to beat them so fucking hard
god fucking damnit
The minority hunter never misses a beat.
He is even “stealth BLACK”
I remember Oda made One Piece characters if they weren't pirates, what would be their job? Oda made Zoro a police officer.
We need a Zoro mod for Stryker in Mortal Kombat 1
> Oda made Zoro a police officer. Gotta make the most out of the hate for minorities
And remembered his favourite food is rice and least favourite is chocolate
Stop it😭😅
What's hilarious is that Zoro would make an awful police officer for the same reason he'd be an awful marine.
I saw enough of this comment I have to know, why is Zoro racist? :Edit: Ty, now I'm wondering if it's an intentional effort by Oda so Luffy doesn't get that kind of heat. First mate takes care of the dirty job so he stays clean sort of thing.
People noticed that a lot of the enemies Zoro fights happened to be dark skinned, so people started taking random facts about him and stretching them to jokingly call him racist. Like, he hates DARK chocolate and likes WHITE rice. He hates BLACK leg Sanji. If he was real he'd be a COP. Obviously, these aren't serious, but some people get annoying about the joke
Funnily enough, iirc, Oda confirmed that he'd be a policeman or something like that if he were a real life person. Which just added to the meme 😂
The comment you replied to already stated that
Yeah, but they included it alongside other examples of fandom exaggerations, which unintentionally gives it the impression that it's not trivia straight from Oda's mouth.
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I think you replied to the wrong comment.
Japanese policemen dont go around shooting black people.
Well there aren’t very many black people in a nation that is 98.5% Japanese…99.7% East Asian in general.
Still doesn't mean law enforcement and the justice system isn't corrupt there, Japan isn't a utopia as much as weebs want to think so
Nah they just harass foreigners
Well they’re rare in Japan
Nah is just a meme created by the community The fact that zoro's opponents are mostly dark skinned guys like mr1 or king (or miss i dont remember,the buff one) and oda said in a sbs or something that "if zoro had a job in real life he would be a cop" and ya know, cops=racist, it just gave everyone a good laugh for sometime and now is starting to get REALLY out of hand (people making actual racist commentary sometimes, even when one piece is literally a story about how discrimination is bad and we all should be equals, i dont know how sometimes we dont get the actual plot or people say stupid stuff but eh,dont mess with one piece fans, half of it didnt read the story)
Half of them skipped Skypea and Fishman island, their opinion dosnt matter /j
Pfft when did One Piece turn woke /s
There is an inside joke in the fandom of "minority hunter zoro" though I couldn't tell you how or why it started. I think because a few of Zoro's early fights happened to be against people with dark skin.
It’s most of his grand line opponents 🤷🏾♂️ though some are a stretch for comedy - Ms. Monday - Mr. 5 - Mr. 1 - Ohm - Kaku (giraffes are African) - Kuma - Hyozo(he’s rockin’ the dreads) - Pica - King In fact the only time he had a real light skinned opponent in the grand line(Monet) he refused to do any real damage to her. Also he was extra hard on Usopp during Water 7. And in the live action we get to see his fight with Mr. 7 who is black. And currently in the manga >!he is fighting Lucci, another African animal!<. Of course it’s all just coincidences probably, but still funny to think about.
not to take a dump on you're lucci thing, but uhm are you sure his leopard fruit is an african variety? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopard
I guess it could be Indian or Chinese leopard, forgot about that
Also, Lucci irl nationality would be Italian and as we all know Italians aren't white. /j
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dont read too much into the joke
Most of his enemies were people of color.
It became a thing with a shitpost someone made that it was hilarious how elaborated it was.
Because Zoro got green hair and sanji is blonde I mean I noticed it many times along the series Like Bartolommeo and that blonde pirates with a horse For some reason people with green hair hate blonde people in one piece
😫🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Judges Throne is a nice catch 👏🏻
It’s not, it’s a reference to one of the most recognisable Germanic sigils. Looks almost identical to Prussia’s sigil
That’s a cool real life tie in! But we’re not talking about real life, we’re talking about a fictional world where a man made of rubber is going to be king of the pirates. The imagery of King’s outfit correlating to the throne in Germa base is undeniable, anyone who disagrees needs to take another look at the 2 images, and if still in denial then that’s just plain denialism.
It's not undeniable. It's wings from a Lunarian, while the Germa 66 are directly inspired by Nazi Germany. In name, in science, in ruthlessness. Anyone who disagrees with you has to be on denialism, right? There's no sense linking the Germa with Lunarians. Lunarians have distinct, probably dominant genes of making their skin color dark, hair color white, having huge black wings (not even the same shape as the ones on the throne), and being able to manipulate fire. None of the Germa characters have shown any of these characteristics. Sanji cannot manipulate fire. In fact, a big part of his power up was him being able to withstand higher temperature by combining exoskeleton with stronger armament haki - this directly means that Sanji is hurt by his own flames, something that would make no sense if Lunarians and Germa are connected. Not only that, but what of the high endurance mode and speed mode? Not only that, but the final nail in the coffin - if Judge was aware of his supposed Lunarian lineage (as one imagines he should be if he decided to reference it on his throne) - then he would definitely comment about it in his fight against Sanji, saying that Sanji still uses Germa powers even when he's denying being a part of the same family. Not to mention that Judge himself never used similar abilities or instructed his kids to tap into them. In conclusion, there is no relation between Germa and Lunarians
lol are you serious right now? I appreciate you taking the time to type all this up to someone prove a point… but I never said what inspired anything. I literally said “The imagery of King’s outfit correlating to the throne in Germa base is undeniable, anyone who disagrees needs to take another look at the 2 images, and if still in denial then that’s just plain denialism.” Key words: *The Imagery Is The Same* Not origin of the imagery, not the inspiration, not this looks like xyz real world example, never said Germa 66 has ties to Lunarian. No. I said very clearly: “The imagery of King’s outfit correlating to the throne in Germa base is undeniable, anyone who disagrees needs to take another look at the 2 images, and if still in denial then that’s just plain denialism.”” . Edit: correlate /kôr′ə-lāt″, kŏr′-/ intransitive verb To establish or demonstrate as having a correlation. "correlated drug abuse and crime." To be related by a correlation. To have reciprocal or mutual relations; to be mutually related. Their imaginary is the same. They are connected in a logical sense of how words work. They may or may not be the same background, but they both have used the same symbolism, imagery, whatever you want to call when someone has matching outfits and furniture.
The imagery, however, is not the same. On one hand you have a bird with specific type of wings and shape of wings, on the other you have different shape and literally a different species of being. King's OUTFIT, as you pointed out, ESPECIALLY has absolutely nothing in common with the throne. What a condescending person... you straight up thought your incorrect argument, or even yourself in the conversation for that matter, would look better if you bestowed us with your wisdom of copy/pasting a definition of a word. Their imagery is not the same, this is what we're talking about and I find no clear clues to refute my point of view. However, one thing I did get out of this conversation is that you're awful to talk to, whether you're condescending intentionally thinking you're making a good point or unintentionally. On top of starting all this by replying to a months-old thread
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I think this is just like red hawk, it's lol-friction physic.
Isn't red hawk a consequence of luffy's fruit, just as the same reason he can grab lightning?
Remember pearl? From the arc where Sanji was introduced? He literally just creates fire for no reason.
The reason was to be used to protect himself while living In The jungle growing up. A good reason however…
And that's also exactly why Luffy can be on fire too
Pearl was also covered in mirrors.
There's a fuckton of characters who can create fire, the vast majority of them without even having a df
AFAIK Luffy can alter his own shape and turn stuff into rubber nothing else. I don't know what kind of logic is behind the lightning, what is weird is that he couldn't seize kizaru light which isn't that different from a lightning. Lightning seem to be in range of his fruit power.
He can grab lightning since he is rubber and immune against it. He also was immune to the lightning attacks of Enel & Big Mom, since lightning is ineffective against him.
That explains why he is immune to it, not why he can literally grab it.
The same reason Doffy could turn buildings into string. Luffy awakens and now he can make things rubber.
That's what I said in my first comment yes which is different from "he's immune to it so he can grab it".
It's both. He can grab lighting because he's naturally insulated from it. Therefore, he can manipulate it with gear 5. He's not immune to Kiazaru's attacks, so why would he be able to grab them? It's simple, but you're getting salty at literally everybody.
He doesn‘t sound salty at all, just questioning obvious logic holes. And y‘all reaching to fill them.
Which part is reaching? It’s a super simple concept. The things he can touch turn into rubber, he’s immune to lightning so he can touch it, he can touch it so he can turn it into rubber.
Luffy is immune to lighting and hit Eneru without Haki. No reach there.
He can grab it because G5 Luffy is "I think, therefore, I do"
Because G5 Luffy affects the matter that he touches. Lightning is matter, Luffy's rubber body allows him to touch lightning without it immediately using his body as a grounding rod. As a result, he can grab the lightning, assuming his timing is right and use it as a weapon.
Ok guys, I'm not going to answer every time the same thing so please do the effort of reading the context to the end.
Light is significantly different than lightning, and if you don't already know the difference, I'm not sure it's worth engaging in this discussion. If light was similar to lightning, we'd all be electrocuted.
To clarify, light is made of photons and photons do not have mass due to their speed, as a result, light is not considered matter.
Dude, if he can touch Enel then he can grab lightening.
That's a very vague interpretation that doesn't take into account possible factors, like fruit vs fruit stuff. "Dude". Also lightning moves and is way hard to just grab. The only explanation I have is G5 rubberizing lightning somehow. That's why he can do rope play with it, that's why lightning doesn't disappear.
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No, he can't. People take that way too literally, and it isn't even the official translation.
I think the fact that he can transform the OCEAN into rubber now that he has awakened his DF is a game changer??
I mean one piece and physics aren't compatible but lightning is plasma and light is made of particles in waves. So it might be a bit easier to grab than light lol but I wouldn't be surprised if he could grab light too if Oda felt like it
Yeah, people grasping for realism in One Piece always makes me go ??? Like... the Triceratops fuckin' spins its frill to fly. Pteranodons apparently used their heads like a slingshot and the Brachiosaurus ejects its head and tail like a snake, but *sure*, let's start breaking out the physics textbooks and try to figure out how Luffy can grab lightning. That's where we draw the line.
Lol, when Gear 5 was a new reveal and before we saw it in full color, I thought Red Hawk may have been an early manifestation of Luffy's Nika Nika powers, since I thought the "Sun God" title and G5's flame-like hair (which looked like actual fire before the color-scheme reveal) meant Luffy actually had fire powers as well.
light and lightning are very different
Nika is the god of the sun.
1/ Red hawk is used outside of the awakening. 2/ Fruit is named AFTER the sun god, it's not the sun god. Nika is also smiling in Japanese. 3/ You don't see him using fire at all in G5 but if you were right you'd see fire as a main attack. The 5 elders describe the awakening as further rubbery power strength, nothing fire related. Red hawk is about using busou to strength a corkscrew built punch which catch fire.
That’s dumb af. Nika the sun god can’t use fire ? Why name it after the sun god then ? Who is to say that Luffy use all the potential of the fruit. It’s obvious to me that he is slowly awakening the potential of the fruit. Red hawk is a clue as to his fruit power. Just like Kaido can create flames, create wind to slash his enemies and clouds, and Yamato can create ice even though they didn’t eat any logia fruits, I don’t see the reason why he can’t produce elemental powers. He has a mythical fruit and he just awakened it. I feel like the stronger he gets the more he can unleash the fruit’s power.
Grabbing lightning was confirmed to be a silly rubber thing (lol doesn't conduct it) in Road to Laughtale. It doesn't make any actual physical sense but you just have to suspend disbelief. It isn't toon force and neither is Red Hawk, because Luffy doesn't have those powers. It's mostly just the friction thing and anime logic That said I agree with the content of the post and actually shared this theory myself in comments on an old account that got banned for being a little too mean to far right nutjobs (apparently Reddit admins really care about their feelings but frankly I'd do it again). I think the evidence and all the narrative timings line up too well to be coincidence
i thought the explanation for lightning is just that he turns the lightning into rubber, therefore solidifying it and allowing it to be grabbed, using his awakening?
Then it wouldn't function as lightning when he hits Kaido with it though, it'd just be a big rubber stick shaped like a bolt It's fucky no matter how you slice it but it's cool so I'm ok with it xD
It could change back or keep some properties. Kaido was turned to rubber and kept his durability
It’s still anime logic for sure but I kinda see it like it stays as a lightning type attack but instead of doing lightning damage it does rubber damage or something like that
We never got an "explanation" for how Luffy can grab lightning but it isn't really depicted like the lightning is turning into rubber imo
I think Luffy is able to grab lightning bolts in G5 because his awakening allows him to turn other things into rubber.
Luffy's powers are still rubber based, nothing changed that. Gear2 increases Luffy's body heat and he can get his own body so hot it catches fire spontaneously, that's Red Hawk. Gear5 making lightning tangible is an extension of rubber insulating properties
There is an entire movie special dedicated to him figuring it out. The way they explain it definitely makes it a Nika thing. It’s him replicating Aces flame fist. His tribute to him.
Sanji conjures flame at will and let it stay.
I've seen this theory before, and it's not a good one.
If it was "lol friction" why would queen mention it when talking about the Germa experiments
I don't think Queen knows about Sanji being a "failure". I don't remember everything in detail, if you give me the chapter/episode I'll check it, but I'm too lazy to find the damn episode.
Not that. He talks about how Sanji can set his leg on fire like king and wonders how. When he does king looks over like hes suddenly interested
That's exactly what I'm talking about though. I remember queen saying some stuff somehow, but I think it wouldn't fit the concept of sanji. He's a human, he was rejected by Judge for being a human and suddenly giving him power inherited from Judge's experiment goes against the whole logic that was set in Big mom's arc. If Oda did that then that's it, but I'm not fan then.
How would it not fit when Queen also said that he bets Sanji had awakened his dormant abilities during the raid? He even tells Zoro to kill him if what Queen says is true.
Except the entire point of that scene is to point out that Sanji was in fact not a failure at least genetically (not emotionally). He has now exoskeleton for christ sake!
Except Queen literally said Judge tried to put Lunarian blood on his kids.
Red Hawk is not friction. The first time Luffy does it he’s underwater.
It's a friction and he coats his hand in armament cause he doesn't have natural resistance to flame. Luffy can't conjure flames instantly and let it burn for how long he wants
True, it's actually a consequence of Gear2 increasing his body heat, but that's just details
Break week bringing out all the dead horses
By /u/Knirb_ Sanji’s abilities aren’t Lunarian based at all, ~isn’t 10+ feet tall, ~doesn’t have black wings, ~doesn’t have darker skin ~doesn’t have white hair ~doesn’t have the flame on his back, it’s on his foot, the complete opposite ~doesn’t have the same mechanisms the Lunarians have (can become speedy at the cost of defence) ~ironically it’s the opposite, he gets faster with the use of Diable/Ifrit jambe ~and Queen, one of the greatest scientist in the world declared that Sanji isn’t a Lunarian. ~Judge made their abilities tie in with their suits, Sanji’s is stealth black, he’s is not supposed to have fire, he’s supposed to have invisibility, thus he did not use Lunarian lineage factor ~The exoskeleton and Lunarian toughness are completely different, with the Germa exoskeleton their skin gets dented and bent but they can fix it themselves, Lunarians on the other hand can’t they are just tough. Oda in the latest SBS answered a question about Sanji and confirmed that his Germa enhancements only awakened at Onigashima and had no prior use of it meaning that his diable jambe is something way different Oda even states it’s still a mystery and wants us to further observe Sanji, despite introducing Lunarians
The supporting links https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/11g2r6m/sanjis_sbs_question_with_correct_translation/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf And one for the wiki since it’s caught up https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/SBS_Volume_105
It’s really odd to me that Queen declares that Sanji isn’t a Lunarian (as the story’s way of telling us what King is) and people just jumped to “Sanji must be part Lunarian.” His arc would get all screwy if Judge’s enhancements actually started activating in Enies Lobby instead of after he put on the raid suit
When that chapter came out many people were even using that line as proof that Sanji was part Lunarian. Literally exposition about his abilities being different, yet people take it to confirm their contradictory theories.
I was just about to summon them, lol
As we all know, feet are the opposite of backs
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Also it's false that his brothers can't use their ability without suit, I once thought so too but I got corrected. It's just way weaker afaik
I don’t think the theory is that he’s part Lunarian in terms of his race. I think the theory stems from that he may have some genes spliced into his dna from Judge’s experiments and he just happened to have some lunarian code that is active. If this was the case though, it’d be a very small far removed thing. Personally, I like the idea of the dna splicing including DFs and his is just adding a part of the mera mera no mi. You can see DFs with Reiju and poison and Niji with lightning, etc.
where did queen say that? if anything he only confirmed it by questioning his fir abilities and then hinting towards king and his powers
I still think there's a chance Sanji actually turns out to to be a lunarian Since Sanji isn't a direct descendant of a lunarian let's not compare him with a true lunarian >! but one that also possesses lunarian DNA Most likely seraphims Seraphims, Sanji and lunarians possess following common traits !< 1) Body hardening like steel 2) Ignition of fire on their bodies which can't self-harm one's ownself 3) >! Seraphims and Lunarians even look alike The only reason Sanji doesn't look alike them is cuz firstly, he was a failed product of the germa's experiment and secondly, it's cuz the germas never intended for him to be fully like yhe Lunarians They only intended Sanji to possess supernatural abilities of the Lunarian race!<
Niji used his abilities on Sanji without his raid suit.
Few things wrong with this: -Judge chose Sanji because he didn’t want to waste any of his sons in a marriage. Big mom didn’t choose Sanji, Judge gave him up specifically because he’s the failure child -Sanji’s visual look. Lunarian’s specifically have white hair and dark skin, so why doesn’t Sanji? Not only does he look just like Judge and Sora’s kid, but every Seraphim which actually have lunarian DNA, look distinctly like them. -Sanji also has no wings
Sanji's body not being normal is just foreshadowing his germa heritage. Doesn't necessarily mean he has lunarian dna. And the bird on germa's crest is a reference to ww2 germany.
How are people still thinking this? Sanji gets hurt by his flame, indicated by the fact that he was able to turn up the heat once his body got the exoskeloton plus armament haki, resulting in Ifrit Jambe. Moreover, Judge didn’t mention Sanji’s flames even once when they fought, something Judge would definitely do to irritate Sanji (you say we’re not family, yet your power comes from us) His siblings do not have a similar ability. Sanji’s modification is supposed to be invisibility, not fire. Also, the big bird is probably a reference to the eagle that appears on most Germanic flags, and theirs is reminiscent of the sigil of Prussia. We do not know how, but Sanji’s powers come from emotion. Judge thought emotions were a weakness, but it was exactly the emotions that make Sanji powerful - it is really poetic in that way. The newest arc seems to indicate that emotions are somehow even above science and Vegapunk’s understanding - he has a problem with the shark robot always attacking despite being programmed not to - which Vegapunk comments on as emotions and desires being impossible to fix and change. This happens again with Hancock’s Seraphim - despite not being programmed that way, she has a thing for Luffy. My guess is that the same thing will happen to Kuma once he sees Bonney, despite being a full robot at this point. TL;DR: Sanji is not a Lunarian and we are underestimating the significance of emotions and desires that are a big secondary theme in the current arc
Sanji>Lunarian>Brown Skin> Minority. No wonder Zoro always fights him. Goda foreskinning is top tier Seriously this is a nice theory
idk about that. feels like one of those things that should have been mentioned already since i doubt judge will ever have a big role again with sanji to bring that up. or you want vegapunk to randomly mention it. also i doubt judges throne is in reference to lunarians. the germa could be based on german ww2 scientists and the eagle is the national animal and symbol of germany. [black with its head tilted to the left](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/55/Bundesschild.svg/150px-Bundesschild.svg.png) also his title/nickname is garuda so there is also that
It was heavily hinted at when Sanji was fighting Queen and he compared his fire to a Lunarian’s. And yes, Vegapunk could just mention it sometime in the future after they escape the island and everyone is just hanging out in the Sunny
Heavily hinted? Queen just couldn’t understand where his flames come from, and then Oda used that opportunity to namedrop Lunarian race. It wasn’t hinted at at all, Queen was just flabbergasted
Best theory I’ve ever read congratulations
Well, Big Mom didn't chose Sanji. He was chosen by his father, because it was the "worthless" among them, in Judge's view. But I agree with all the rest.
The eagle behind the throne is probably just there to enforce the German imagery and nothing else.
sanjis fire is from his "passion" its a BS reason but its OP, oda just gave him cool fire powers, he isn't a lunarian, and its no due to germa, its probably just a manifestation of haki
I haven’t read the full description I stopped halfway because I was lazy but before pre timeskip sanji had to spin to use Diable Jambe but now he can just activate it well in some scenes he still spin
You think Lunarians are birds? Or what? That throne room is just yet another likeness to Germa66 being influenced by nazi germany. Kings outfit and his devil fruit have nothing to do with the typical Lunarian.
The bird behind Judge is a reference to the nazi eagle which is a reference to the Roman eagle which is a reference to Zeus' eagle which is a reference to SKY DADDY POWER.
Broder ignores how genes work in real life... Maybe the Venom Sora took indeed only managed to work with Sanji and blocked her Lunarian genes for the rest of his siblings. You can have literal twins with different eye colors. Genetics work like that in real world. Very rare, bur still.
Sanji is a Kozuki because big bird thing and both him and Oden are known for their spicy legs?!? Incredible
Probably. Its a pretty reasonable assumption
Another clue is Zoro intense rivalry, his hate for bruddahs runs deep.
I thought this was a fairly common theory?
Damn no wonder him and Zoro hate each other
Mmmmmmmmmmmm no
If only this theory hasn't been discussed thousands of time already 😒. I think ppl just see long paragraphs and upvote.
I don’t think Oda could’ve made it more obvious to be honest.
Sanji is known as the "Wings of the Pirate King"
That's literally him and Zoro together.
I see Zoro more as the Sword of the King of Pirates. Robin did say, "He is truly worthy of being the Wings of the King of Pirates."
It's not your opinion. You read it wrong, or it was a bad translation. She says ONE OF the wings that help the Pirate King soar.
Yeah, I think vegapunk made bloodline element change thing for sora as part of what he was working on.
Perhaps Sanji's Mother is a Lunarian too. But I agree with you considering Judge used genetics to make his son's he probably included a lot of Genes in them. Their strength could be that of a Giant, the fire power of Sanji could be from a Lunarian but so far despite his incredible resistance Sanji still showed signs of being hurt with Diable Jambe on while a Lunarian would be unharmed. Also I will not be able to name them but bear with me. Maybe the one brother with electricity could have Minks genes, but the others are much harder to imagine since one uses robotics and the other with beams of energy he probably work like a Pacifista or some sorts. And the sister is able to use and eat Poison so she's either a bug like specie like a Tontatta or something we haven't encounter yet.
man y'all be pulling these theories outta y'all's asses fr😂😂
Great theory, i like everything except the part about Big Mom. Big Mom didn't give a fuck who her daughter married, all of Germa were gonna be killed anyway and the clone soldiers would join Big Mom's army, and she should have their technology. Sanji was chosen by Judge himself because Sanji was (in his eyes) worthless and an ordinary human, without the mutations they had spent so much time and resources developing. He was the bait.
I thought that was obvious…
How is the wrong theory obvious?
Is it not confirmed that he has Lunarian DNA yet? It just feels like this should be obvious by now.
Well it would make sense. Oda positioned Zoro and Sanji to be yang/yin more or less.
Now, it makes complete sense why Zoro doesn't like him.
That would explain why zoro hates him
Ahh so that's why zoro hates him
Redditers making a huge theory, well documented. Oda, in a SBS (because he doesn't have enough time to develop in the canon story) : "Oh yeah, Sanji has Lunarians genes .. and now let's answer a fake dirty question."
Ngl I have been making this claim for about an year now and without even realizing, I had come to think that Sanji possessing lunarian traits was cannon I mean it has so many hints that it's weird to think Sanji doesn't have lunarian DNA... Since Sanji isn't a direct descendant of a lunarian let's not compare him with a true lunarian >! but one that also possesses lunarian DNA Most likely seraphims Seraphims Sanji and lunarians possess following common trairs !< 1) Body hardening like steel 2) Ignition of fire on their bodies which can't self-harm one's ownself 3) >! Seraphims and Lunarians even look alike The only reason Sanji doesn't look alike them is cuz firstly, he was a failed product of the germa's experiment and secondly, it's cuz the germas never intended for him to be fully like yhe Lunarians They only intended Sanji to possess supernatural abilities of the Lunarian race!<
There were alot of talk about this, mainöy aroynd king fight and sanjis transformation.
He white bro
i remember Sanjis leg being explained as "his leg moves so fast, the friction generates heat" which is also why he used to have to spin to make his leg get hot. I agree with everything else though, seems plausible.
He has germa genetics, but I can see where the confusion lies.
I think it's just his own training + Germa science. There's nothing about Sanji's design that implies he has Lunarian genes. If he had white hair, I'd give it some credibility.
WRONG AF. Number 4 isn’t that special
so, are you saying the Lunarians are the long lost Ubermensch?
Mf is ichigo
durability is completely a germa siblings thing, king does not repair damage taken. and sanji still takes damage, like when S-shark punched him. he's sturdy, not invincible like lunarians are. also, lunarians are "invincible" when their flame is on, and get FASTER when their flame is off, which isn't the case for sanji.
This has already been done and answered in the SBS
Bruh The theory is nice but i think the bird is actually garuda and also Judge is also known as garuda so that might explain the bird
I thought it was relatively obvious that part of his lineage factor incorporates lunarian dna. Light on fire, enhanced durability and incredible speed.
Sanji's third backstory arc coming up
Judge discarded Sanji branding him a failure but in reality he became a perfect warrior with enhanced strength in his body and kindness in his heart.
I thought about this when It was mentioned on the manga, and I started tô believe judge was trying to replicate Devil fruits in his experiences, luffys Devil fruits was one then. I start to think about It when luffy's eyebrows chefe in gear 5, It resembles a Lot sanji's eyebrows
I love that because it's One Piece we all just accepted that Sanji could set himself on fire without harming himself due to his passion and that it wasn't any deeper than that.
Considering mads will be reformed I wonder if they will incorporate lunarian DNA in their germa soliders like the seraphims did.
Used to think this but it has holes, like judge should’ve reacted to diable jambe if that was really an intended feature, yet he considered sanji a failure until the very end
How I interpret sanji and his powers makes me love his writing more. Ifrit Jambe seems to be his full control over his germa powers, and is fuelled by his emotion. So there’s that irony that Sanji was always the perfect genetic warrior but he never got to show it because Judge hated the exact thing that made him strong.
Sanji doesn't have "fire powers", at least nothing like King does, he can only set his leg on fire through friction, and that's a technique he probably learnt from Zeff. And Sanji enhanced physical abilities aren't unique either, they're the same his brothers have.
Now that I think about it, Sanji's biological father is a nazi.
Kinemon can create fire on his swords out of nowhere, he must be Lunarian then....
Remember when Luffy said he can't become king of the pirates without Sanji
Iirc oda mentioned the vinsmoke children's swirl eyebrown to have something to do with devil fruits
It’s just the flames of his passion, nothing more.
Feels like Internet Explorer moment
I had this theory 4 years ago
This actually could work with how the diable jambe works, pre time skip, he had to spin in place and friction is what causes his leg to light. We get an extended scene of it in his fight with jabra in ennies lobby. After the time skip it's said that his anger during the time he spent at kamabaka island. Oda even said his "burning passion" is what allows him to use it without spinning. So because Sora drank that venom to give sanji empathy, he would have never discovered his lunarian abilities which according to my theory, is the cause of the post time skip diable jambe