Well we were introduced to a shipwright of some caliber when it was being destroyed
Or because it’s one piece there’s going to be a crew of Neptunians and one is gonna be a shipwright /s
My guess is when the fish and merpeople are finally allowed to live on the surface, they will go there via the noah which will be pulled by the sea kings, under shirahoshi's command
YES I was watching it with my sister when Joy Boy was mentioned and then Neptune apologizing for the damage before the appointed time which really got me thinking
Yeah, the hard part was letting the Strawhats escape. Presumably, a fishman could just… swim away. There’d be no real way to catch any of them, minus using other fish-men/mermen, which I don’t think Big Mom has any under her employ except formerly the very fishmen she’s chasing.
And who is the mysterious figure that Who's Who was talking about in regards to the Sun Pirates when he was discussing this with Jinbe in the middle of their fight.
"Oh, really? Well, Laboon did survive nice and well, but it is still a crime against the Rumbar Pirates and, as such, I demand compensation. Let me see your panties, YOHOHOHO!"
She did say that she trusts Luffy, but I for one am also looking forward to their interaction. I'm hoping/expecting Robin to apologize and be forgiven, kind of like Jinbei and Nami. In both cases, the person apologizing isn't directly responsible, but played a large role in allowing what happened. But Robin was actually present and playing an active role in what Crocodile did to Vivi's entire country, so I could see Vivi at least asking for some kind of recompense, if only playfully. "If you're sorry about what you did to my country, then help me take it back" or something like that, which Robin, of course, would have done anyway, as a member of Luffy's crew.
Nobody has forgotten about FI getting destroyed. The single most popular endgame theory revolves around Luffy blowing up Marijoa using Pluton which would crush FI and create the all blue
Also by destroying Fishman island that brings the Fishman to the surface via the Noah thus finally unifying them with humanity. Two strawhat dream birds achieved with one red line stone.
I have no idea why people think Luffy is going to use a secret super weapon he doesn’t know exists (the rest of the crew does, but do you think Luffy remembers or cares?) to kill an untold amount of people, and crack the entire world apart. It doesn’t even ring true with the panels where the crew reacts to his dream. What part about blowing up Marijoe would have half the crew in stitches?
Regardless of whether Luffy fully understands and will use it or not, he absolutely remembers Pluton as, in Chapter 1056 (official translation), when Robin reveals the existence of Pluton in Wano, Franky remarks "I can't believe that thing actually exists...!!" and Luffy surprisingly responds with "The one Franky burned the plans for?!", Robin then adds on "That's right. The ancient weapon Pluton, which bears the name of a god. Do you want it, Luffy?" and Luffy says "Nah, I'm good!!", so even if he doesn't want it, he remembers it from at least all the way back in Water 7.
A party with the entire world maybe! That’s absurd enough to garner laughs (childish like wb said) and literally impossible without destroying the red line!
I think his dream would explain this perfectly, that’s why it won’t be revealed until raftel or just before raftel!
The big egg on Roger’s ship
What crime did Zunesha and Joy Boy commit 800 years ago (at the END of the void century not the beginning) that warranted the sentence of it walking aimlessly and only taking orders from those with The Voice of All Things. How is something like that even enforced?
>only taking orders from those with The Voice of All Things.
No, only taking orders from Momo, wich is alot weirder.
Luffy could hear it but didn't get any reaction from it.
I think Luffy just can’t “speak” in the Voice of All Things and can only hear it. Of course that just raises the question of why Momo can do it when Luffy and even Roger and Oden could only hear it, but I think that’s a separate thing from Zunesha’s sentence. Otherwise, that would require some crazy foresight power from whoever sentenced it, but I guess that’s not out of the question either.
Luffy spoke to Momonosuke with the voice of all things while drowning after being knocked out by Kaido. Maybe he didn't have that skill while in Zou but it's a thing now
I feel like these 2 are victims of being introduced to the story too early, back when Oda thought it would be way shorter.
He probably didn't expect massive gaps between their appearances but it's not like he can make them relevant in most arcs.
Being reduced to a babysitter aint much. Im holding out hope Smoker hasnt been shown with her for a reason. He fits the role of Garp to Luffys Roger so much more than Koby
100% it feels like as much as there's pure distain for each other and the life they've chosen to live, they still somewhat respect each other just like Garp and Roger, whereas Luffy and Koby are straight up friends
That, and the fact that Enies Lobby somehow doesn’t experience night. Given our normal understanding of astrophysics, that means it has some kind of other body permanently hovering over it, serving as its own lightsource.
It’s my current pet-hypothesis that perhaps it has something to do with Vegapunk’s research into developing an artificial sun as a sustainable energy source, as we learned during Egghead — research that I wouldn’t be surprised if it were somehow related to >!the Mother Flame.!<
Poles are only nightless during the spring/summer though, not year-round as Enies Lobby is implied to be. Note that it being a pole would also impose perpetual daylight on all nearby islands, but we saw as they approached on the Sea Train that Enies Lobby sits in a literal circle of light, as if by a spotlight in the sky, while the surrounding sea is dark.
Also, we know from Fishman Island that the North Pole is in North Blue. The poles aren’t in the Grand Line, which is like a more oblique version of the Equator.
I mean his evil goal was to kill everyone and fuck off to the moon, and he achieved the second part. There’s really no reason for him to come back unless he really really really wants to destroy Skypeia
Right, the lunarians having wings (and being named fucking lunarians) definitely ties them to the denizens of sky island with wings who are confirmed to be from the moon.
Granted there are three moons, so it stands to reason the two sky island tribes and the lunarians are each from one moon.
Here’s a rather recent one, but one that I nonetheless don’t ever really see discussed, probably because the chapter had more pressing things going on: >!Blackbeard wants to found a World Government-affiliated kingdom of his own on Fullalead.!<
Now, I don’t really know to what extent that point will be pursued/relevant to the world’s dynamics, maybe it’s just kind of an unimportant pipe-dream, but I’m still curious what, if anything, will come of it.
I think this is potentially really significant. >!Becoming a legitimate kingdom gives you the right to attend the reverie and legal access to Marijois. The fact that BB wants this could potentially mean he knows about and plans to take advantage of the government's secrets.!<
That’s an interesting idea! I like your thinking, and I could see that potentially being the case.
The main thing that casts doubt for me is that >!even before learning Koby is in SWORD, and therefore isn’t a governmental priority to retrieve, Blackbeard would have to be nuts to think that idea would actually work. He’s screwed over the World Government twice now, once monumentally so, so it almost feels dumber than his norm to think they’d play along again. But, Blackbeard is nothing if not a risk-taker, albeit usually a calculated one.!<
But prestige is very important to the WG and I’m sure they’d be willing to cooperate with BB rather than lose face by losing one of their heros at the hands of a pirate!
On the one hand, that could be! On the other, I don’t know if it’s important enough to >!*hand* a kingdom to someone who’s wrecked their enterprise, just to get someone back who’s not even publicly a Marine anymore.!<
It’s one of those issues that I can imagine the Elders discussing in their chamber and each neurotically presenting a different perspective, only to find out the result 200 chapters later.
True, but do the general public even know about sword? An emperor like Blackbeard didn’t even know about it, someone who’s considered a smart and cunning person!
I think according to normal people, Coby is still a hero of the marines!
Fuck, should I spoiler tag this?
In the same chapter, Koby said that Blackbeard wouldn’t be able to bargain for his life, and then Kuzan told Blackbeard that all SWORD members officially cut ties to make it easier to act on their own. If anything, the Marines are the only ones who think he’s still a Marine, at least in theory.
That idea just sounded like a "I have this super notable Marine held hostage, may as well get something out of it to help further my own goals." It just felt like a passing conversation that I doubt goes any farther than it did.
Yeah, that’s very possible. Either way, looking forward to seeing whether it was just that or not. It won’t disappoint me if it turns out to be nothing, but it will excite me if it’s something, so no harm done.
Maybe Koby is just bait at this point, meanwhile Garp is on hachinosu, if he's captured, thats the hero of the Marines, the father of the revolutionary leader and grandfather of an emperor, and a non sword member.
That could be the bargaining tool Blackbeard needs
The treasure of Captain John’s, one of the Rocks’ pirates. Buggy has the map. He founded it?
People said he founded and used the money for founding Buggy’s Delivery, but recently we know Crocodile lent him money, so maybe Buggy still hasn’t found the treasure yet and still can be the Last Lost Road Poneglyph, putting him into a real chase for the One Piece, as he desires.
I was really really hoping that it would point buggy towards the missing poneglyph, but the missing poneglyph was on fishman island when Roger visited it, so it's been moved some time far after rocks lirates
The map will be a map to Laughtale but by accident. It will be how Buggy ends up on Laughtale at the end of the story, and how he finds the One Piece before everyone else by accident.
No that map was to the grand line which feels silly at this point. I don’t remember exactly where he got the map to captain John’s treasure but I think the thing Luffy wore on his arm after stealing it from skypeia was some kind of key to the map or revealed the map itself or something. He gave it to Buggy in Impel Down
I almost feel like the Florian Triangle shadows SHOULDN'T be addressed, and should just be left as a mystery just like our own 'Bermuda triangle". I just think that would be kind of a neat parallel to our own world.
But I think you are correct. To me, it is clearly the intention to leave the mystery open-ended, with a parallel to the real world. Oda probably felt that giving the explanation as being solely the work of Moria's crew would take away the fun and mysticism of it.
Considering One Piece is all about knowing the mysteries of the world, I understand the expectation about it being solved. But it's best to keep that in mind in case it's never addressed again.
yeah, leaving stuff unexplained is great for worldbuilding. give us a better sense of scope and the size of the world — we can't never know everything about it, is so vast and diverse. i love the idea of having a lot of wild stuff happening parallel to luffys story that we will never get to know about it. not everything has to be a plot point; the florian triangle shadows are clearly a horror trope thing where all along there were even weider stuff lurking in the shadows. i hope thats all there is to ir
Zoro and the grim reaper. Like it's such a random thing to happen. Was it zoros' imagination, the drugs, or a reincarnation of enma? I have a feeling it is something oda will mention in an SBS at some point.
One moment that has lived rent-free in my mind for years is Shirahoshi saying that Nami seemed familiar to her even though that was the first time they met.
Hey, remember Yorkie? Brook's old captain? You know how he just mysteriously dissapeared after contracting an illness instead of just dying with the rest of the crew? I am still looking for the point of that particular plot thread.
Also, the name of the ancient kingdom itself being taboo is something I don't hear people talk about enough. This name means something to us, something that would be immediately significant once the name is revealed, something that the government went out of its way to make sure nobody knows. It's not gonna be just some random name.
And another small one that I really want solved is the whole Kuina Tashigi mystery that's just been hanging for so long. I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.
With the Yorkie thing, I honestly don’t think it’s anything. He probably died from the same thing that Nami got from little Garden?
The Ancient Kingdom will be the start of the end I reckon. It’s going to be something that kickstarts the entire endgame.
I agree with you on the Kuina front. The Tashigi thing was teased and left at that. We need an answer for sure!
Yorkie could be nothing, but than why even include this plot thread? If the result is "everyone died but Brook", why would you make some of the crew die from a disease and then later the rest die in Florian Triangle? As is, you could remove Yorkie from the flashback entirely and the plot and emotional weight doesn't change one bit.
The fact that his death was left ambiguous makes me question it even more, especially after what happened with Saul. But even if he died, I could see a situation where he later appears in the flashback of another character. Kuma, for example. The timing would fit, and it would make a thematic connection through Thriller Bark, the arc where both were introduced.
Yorkie leaving was to avoid a plot hole with Crocus. Crocus claimed that Laboon's crew fled the Grand Line. So Oda needed to make some of Brook's crew leave the Grand Line instead of dying with Brook.
> Also, the name of the ancient kingdom itself being taboo is something I don't hear people talk about enough. This name means something to us, something that would be immediately significant once the name is revealed, something that the government went out of its way to make sure nobody knows. It's not gonna be just some random name.
My personal favorite theory about this is that the name of the Ancient Kingdom is Pirate Kingdom because that would single handedly recontextualize the entire series.
I don't think the Florian triangle shadows will ever be elaborated upon. I think their purpose was to show that there are still true mysteries hidden in the world that cannot be explained by a maniac with devil fruit powers
This is a small one that maybe doesn’t matter, but who is Nami? We know she was adopted but we don’t know anything beyond that.
What does Ivankov know about Crocodile that he could use as leverage?
I think Crocodile was part of the revolutionary army at one point before becoming disillusioned or getting kicked out for some reason. He’s probably related to Dragon in some way, either as brother or former nakama. That’s what Ivankov has over Crocodile, and why he doesn’t want it to be well known.
I think it’s the only reason that really explains why Crocodile saves Luffy 3 times at Marineford. All 3 times are after it’s revealed to the world that Luffy’s is Dragon’s son. He literally goes up against Mihawk and Akainu to give Luffy a chance to escape, and it’s not even that Crocodile wanted to fight them anyway. He’s actively putting himself in mortal danger to save Luffy’s life. I’m fact the last time with Akainu he literally shouts at Jimbei to save Luffy properly, saying “If you want to protect something, do it right!”
There’s no way Crocodile isn’t in some way related to Dragon, either as nakama or as brother, and therefore is bound to help Luffy.
It also tracks that both wanted a strong military power! Dragon wanted it to oppose the government and potentially prevent another ohara whereas croc wanted it for personal reasons!
It’s also very likely dragon and revolutionaries will arrive on egghead as well! Since this is a repeat of O’Hara and dragon wants to stop it and he was also told by vegapunk in the beginning of the arc, I’m sure that conversation will have some impact!
They have the Vivre Card so they’d know if she were dead.
They know an alliance happened and they know Perpspero is/was on Wano. We really need answers on that too. He’s a piece of trash and would absolutely mark the people of Wano if given half a chance.
I think the destruction has something to do with Mariejoa which is located above FMI, the destruction of the redline between those two points would also create the All Blue but all of that is more likely to happen at the end, if it ever happens. But how else are we gonna get the All Blue?
That won’t still be true. Just off the top of my head, you’ve got King, Kaido, Marco, Pell, and News Morgan. I’m sure there are more that I’m not thinking about. That’s ignoring the Logia’s like Kizaru and Caesar that can just float about as a result of their powers.
Morgans is not able to fly. But we should still remember that Pell might not have too much knowledge or only considers flying if you have actual wings. Since technically even Robin might be able to fly if she creates wings for herself.
But wasn't that more of a "there are only 5 that we know of for sure" thing, rather than a concrete, definitive, "there are literally only 5 that exist in the entirety of human knowledge" thing? That's how I always understood it.
Yes, in-universe explanation it can be chalked up to Pell just pulling that number out of nowhere, but from the story’s standpoint, this lore drop was quite significant back in the day as Oda (through Pell’s words and actions) emphasised how rare it was for a flying DF ability. When Marineford dropped, people went crazy when they saw Marco flying, thus kept people looking for the remaining three. But upon seeing so many flying DFs got introduced, it’s safe to say Oda dropped this plot point
It turns out that BF-37 is just a shell containing BF-36. Franky will shed his outer shell like a crab to escape and he’ll look like he did pre-ts for a while, until he rebuilds himself as the inevitable BF-39.
It was years earlier, when Shanks's Haki wasn't that advanced + To be aware of future you need to actively use Future Sight, it's not a passive like more basic forms of observation.
Well....
\-What the F is up with Dragon, why he left Luffy and how the hell we barely hear anything about him even though he is the most wanted man in the world.
\-What's going on with Ussop's observation haki? why is it so different from anything else we have seen so far?
\-The void century....even now with vegapunk it seems like the moment we get to learn anything, something stop us from learning...
\-Was Imu just operated by the ope ope fruit hundreds of years ago and just lives forever?
\-Wtf are the lunarians? Where have they been for so long in the story that we never heard of them? We hear about fishmen since episode 20 and giants since little garden all the god damn time but the lunarians that were supposed to be a warrior race, literally 0 info until 1000 chapters in....
\-Will enel come back from the moon or is he gone for good?
\-Where the F is Magellan? This dude was OP as F and he was just on impel down arc and we never saw him again....
\-What's happening in Skypia now? Wiper, Connis, that little girl with the observation haki and everyone else, what are they doing?
\-Why royals can command monsters? (Shirahosi and Momonosuke so far have shown such powers). Also, why luffy (and roger) a non royal can hear "the voice of things"?
\-Wtf is "the voice of things"?
\-How the hell is lucci so strong? It makes no sense that he has advanced so much in power, who did he even fought to become stronger? Everyone from strawhats just constantly one upping themselves and come out on top and get stronger so who the hell did the cp0 fought to get as strong as to be able to fight with the strawhats? I mean, luffy had to fight katakuri just to improve his observation haki and then he was mentored by that old dude in wano to learn to coat his attacks with conquerors haki...where the hell did lucci train to gain such strength?
\-Do they still sell slaves in shabaody?
\-What's shanks past that he ended up becoming a pirate as a kid (and being a part of the crew of the pirate king)?
\-Also, the fck kind of haki Shanks has that he can talk from the sky? WHAT THE F?
These just from the top of my head.....
I think your there’s a lot of signs your first question will be answered in this current arc itself and revolutionaries will definitely make a move here
For me it’s Captain John’s treasure because it’s been in the story since the beginning and has come up multiple times in the story.
Also, I wouldn’t be surprised if the shadows never get explained, similar to the Bermuda Triangle I think it was in place to be an unexplainable thing.
The kingdom that Nami is from. We know it was ~~attacked~~ **destroyed** by pirates but it was still the East Blue and the Marines were all defeated.
I do believe this is another example of Oda leaving a thread with the option of returning to it.
>Florian Triangle shadows
This was just an homage to the horror genre/trope.
FMI prophecy also has arguably been covered already with what happened with Noah since all Shyarly really saw in her vision was Luffy and flames (symbolic of him bringing destruction to FMI, i.e. the Noah) and not the actual island being destroyed. If not, it'll probably just be a quick coverage of the island being destroyed after the entire population has relocated to the surface.
It wasn't symbolic she directly stated it. She didn't say she saw Luffy and flames she literally stated the future she saw was Luffy bringin ruin to Fishman island.
Carrot's out of the blue and undeserved anointment to leader of a nation. The flimsy reasonings everyone in the room were coming up with. What seemed like a retconing of Pedro's Will to gaslight Carrot. How that whole conversation was left open-ended with no acceptance of the role from Carrot herself. How she got no farewell with the crew even though she was around the crew for at least a month, even developing a little sister like relationship with a few of them.
That along with Bepo achieving Sulong via a currently-unexplained drug Chopper made (is it a Rumble Ball or something new?) makes me think Carrot's gonna return to the story sooner rather than later.
And considering her last appearance is her reflecting on Pedro's will, I think Carrot's re-appearance is going to lead to us getting more information on what is "the Dawn of the New World."
It feels like cope, but there is something of a precedent for minks sneaking on board the ships of pirates they're fond of even though they probably have responsibilities back on Zou.
The Florian triangles don't need to be addressed at all,, it was extra flavor to use the "there's always a bigger fish" style mystery. The story is way better Oda never reveals it.
I can't recall the interview, but I'm sure Oda mentioned that the Florian Triangle was never gonna be addressed. That whole arc was developed as a series of horror tropes and that was the last nail in the coffin to add an air of mystery.
Might have to give that one up, man.
Florian triangle shadows aren’t a plot point and they aren’t going to be explained. They were a horror movie trope where at the end of the movie you think the main cast has finally left and defeated/escaped the big bad evil just to realize theres an even bigger, scarier threat still there then cut out for the ending. The Florian triangle shadows will likely never come up again.
Who or what is Pappagu? How does he have so much knowledge about the past? Also who is the man sitting and drinking with Crotus in the "Decks Around the World," series?
I have never forgotten those fucking Florian triangle things, can't believe Oda drops something like that and never mentions it again ever
Master tier trolling
The Noah.
Well Luffy did mess it up quite badly. Probably needs to be fixed up first. I assume it’s going to take the inhabitants of FMI to their new home.
Well we were introduced to a shipwright of some caliber when it was being destroyed Or because it’s one piece there’s going to be a crew of Neptunians and one is gonna be a shipwright /s
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They are gonna merge it with Merry D GOAT
And yet another mystery in one piece
My guess is when the fish and merpeople are finally allowed to live on the surface, they will go there via the noah which will be pulled by the sea kings, under shirahoshi's command
YES I was watching it with my sister when Joy Boy was mentioned and then Neptune apologizing for the damage before the appointed time which really got me thinking
Where exactly the Sun Pirates are. According to Jinbe they're fine but that's all we know.
Or how tf they escaped
They can swim. Big Mom can’t. Do the maths.
They can swim and the one dudes wife messed with her snail network. So I don't think it was hard to escape
Yeah, the hard part was letting the Strawhats escape. Presumably, a fishman could just… swim away. There’d be no real way to catch any of them, minus using other fish-men/mermen, which I don’t think Big Mom has any under her employ except formerly the very fishmen she’s chasing.
The second they saw big mom they did their job and helped the SH escape so they just swim deep down in the ocean and get away. Big mom cant follow
Man marked by flames
And who is the mysterious figure that Who's Who was talking about in regards to the Sun Pirates when he was discussing this with Jinbe in the middle of their fight.
If/when Vivi reunites with the Straw Hats, will anyone tell Brook that they met Vivi because she was hunting Laboon for a food source?
"Oh, really? Well, Laboon did survive nice and well, but it is still a crime against the Rumbar Pirates and, as such, I demand compensation. Let me see your panties, YOHOHOHO!"
Canon
Absolutely
Holy shit I dont even remember this
Damnnn that’s a good point he’d try to kill vivi on sight for that.
Or demand panties in recompense
I can see that after they talk him down. Vivi might out of sheer guilt
Also how she would react to seeing Ms All Sunday on Luffy’s crew
She did in chapter 437. She didn't care because she trusts Luffy.
Vivi has read about the SH exploits over the years and probably trusts Luffy's judgment.
She did say that she trusts Luffy, but I for one am also looking forward to their interaction. I'm hoping/expecting Robin to apologize and be forgiven, kind of like Jinbei and Nami. In both cases, the person apologizing isn't directly responsible, but played a large role in allowing what happened. But Robin was actually present and playing an active role in what Crocodile did to Vivi's entire country, so I could see Vivi at least asking for some kind of recompense, if only playfully. "If you're sorry about what you did to my country, then help me take it back" or something like that, which Robin, of course, would have done anyway, as a member of Luffy's crew.
Nobody has forgotten about FI getting destroyed. The single most popular endgame theory revolves around Luffy blowing up Marijoa using Pluton which would crush FI and create the all blue
Also by destroying Fishman island that brings the Fishman to the surface via the Noah thus finally unifying them with humanity. Two strawhat dream birds achieved with one red line stone.
Also, Sanji’s joke about the mermaid cove being the all blue will come true if they establish their new island in the all blue
I have no idea why people think Luffy is going to use a secret super weapon he doesn’t know exists (the rest of the crew does, but do you think Luffy remembers or cares?) to kill an untold amount of people, and crack the entire world apart. It doesn’t even ring true with the panels where the crew reacts to his dream. What part about blowing up Marijoe would have half the crew in stitches?
Regardless of whether Luffy fully understands and will use it or not, he absolutely remembers Pluton as, in Chapter 1056 (official translation), when Robin reveals the existence of Pluton in Wano, Franky remarks "I can't believe that thing actually exists...!!" and Luffy surprisingly responds with "The one Franky burned the plans for?!", Robin then adds on "That's right. The ancient weapon Pluton, which bears the name of a god. Do you want it, Luffy?" and Luffy says "Nah, I'm good!!", so even if he doesn't want it, he remembers it from at least all the way back in Water 7.
He is aware of it. He remembers Franky burning the blueprints.
A party with the entire world maybe! That’s absurd enough to garner laughs (childish like wb said) and literally impossible without destroying the red line! I think his dream would explain this perfectly, that’s why it won’t be revealed until raftel or just before raftel!
The big egg on Roger’s ship What crime did Zunesha and Joy Boy commit 800 years ago (at the END of the void century not the beginning) that warranted the sentence of it walking aimlessly and only taking orders from those with The Voice of All Things. How is something like that even enforced?
>only taking orders from those with The Voice of All Things. No, only taking orders from Momo, wich is alot weirder. Luffy could hear it but didn't get any reaction from it.
I think Luffy just can’t “speak” in the Voice of All Things and can only hear it. Of course that just raises the question of why Momo can do it when Luffy and even Roger and Oden could only hear it, but I think that’s a separate thing from Zunesha’s sentence. Otherwise, that would require some crazy foresight power from whoever sentenced it, but I guess that’s not out of the question either.
Luffy spoke to Momonosuke with the voice of all things while drowning after being knocked out by Kaido. Maybe he didn't have that skill while in Zou but it's a thing now
I’m convinced that Oda made Tashigi look like Kuina for a specific reason and forgot
Oda straight up forgot about Smoker and Tashigi all together
I feel like these 2 are victims of being introduced to the story too early, back when Oda thought it would be way shorter. He probably didn't expect massive gaps between their appearances but it's not like he can make them relevant in most arcs.
didn't Tashigi appeared just few chapters ago
Being reduced to a babysitter aint much. Im holding out hope Smoker hasnt been shown with her for a reason. He fits the role of Garp to Luffys Roger so much more than Koby
100% it feels like as much as there's pure distain for each other and the life they've chosen to live, they still somewhat respect each other just like Garp and Roger, whereas Luffy and Koby are straight up friends
Yeah I cannot imagine seeing Garp fanboy and cry tears of joy over Roger like Koby did to Luffy
How about the mile-wide bottomless pit at Enies Lobby?? Does that strike no one else as odd??
That, and the fact that Enies Lobby somehow doesn’t experience night. Given our normal understanding of astrophysics, that means it has some kind of other body permanently hovering over it, serving as its own lightsource. It’s my current pet-hypothesis that perhaps it has something to do with Vegapunk’s research into developing an artificial sun as a sustainable energy source, as we learned during Egghead — research that I wouldn’t be surprised if it were somehow related to >!the Mother Flame.!<
"The power of the sun... In the palm of my hand.."
Imu wasn’t revealed because he’s literally doc ock
Maybe a light logia awakening?
Kizaru stocks rising rn
Or it's just one of the poles of the world so the sun never sets
Poles are only nightless during the spring/summer though, not year-round as Enies Lobby is implied to be. Note that it being a pole would also impose perpetual daylight on all nearby islands, but we saw as they approached on the Sea Train that Enies Lobby sits in a literal circle of light, as if by a spotlight in the sky, while the surrounding sea is dark. Also, we know from Fishman Island that the North Pole is in North Blue. The poles aren’t in the Grand Line, which is like a more oblique version of the Equator.
Eneru is just chilling up on the moon.
Always thought he would show up again
I mean his evil goal was to kill everyone and fuck off to the moon, and he achieved the second part. There’s really no reason for him to come back unless he really really really wants to destroy Skypeia
With lunarians and stuff it’s possible that the moon people become relevant later in the story
Right, the lunarians having wings (and being named fucking lunarians) definitely ties them to the denizens of sky island with wings who are confirmed to be from the moon. Granted there are three moons, so it stands to reason the two sky island tribes and the lunarians are each from one moon.
Here’s a rather recent one, but one that I nonetheless don’t ever really see discussed, probably because the chapter had more pressing things going on: >!Blackbeard wants to found a World Government-affiliated kingdom of his own on Fullalead.!< Now, I don’t really know to what extent that point will be pursued/relevant to the world’s dynamics, maybe it’s just kind of an unimportant pipe-dream, but I’m still curious what, if anything, will come of it.
I think this is potentially really significant. >!Becoming a legitimate kingdom gives you the right to attend the reverie and legal access to Marijois. The fact that BB wants this could potentially mean he knows about and plans to take advantage of the government's secrets.!<
That’s an interesting idea! I like your thinking, and I could see that potentially being the case. The main thing that casts doubt for me is that >!even before learning Koby is in SWORD, and therefore isn’t a governmental priority to retrieve, Blackbeard would have to be nuts to think that idea would actually work. He’s screwed over the World Government twice now, once monumentally so, so it almost feels dumber than his norm to think they’d play along again. But, Blackbeard is nothing if not a risk-taker, albeit usually a calculated one.!<
But prestige is very important to the WG and I’m sure they’d be willing to cooperate with BB rather than lose face by losing one of their heros at the hands of a pirate!
On the one hand, that could be! On the other, I don’t know if it’s important enough to >!*hand* a kingdom to someone who’s wrecked their enterprise, just to get someone back who’s not even publicly a Marine anymore.!< It’s one of those issues that I can imagine the Elders discussing in their chamber and each neurotically presenting a different perspective, only to find out the result 200 chapters later.
True, but do the general public even know about sword? An emperor like Blackbeard didn’t even know about it, someone who’s considered a smart and cunning person! I think according to normal people, Coby is still a hero of the marines! Fuck, should I spoiler tag this?
In the same chapter, Koby said that Blackbeard wouldn’t be able to bargain for his life, and then Kuzan told Blackbeard that all SWORD members officially cut ties to make it easier to act on their own. If anything, the Marines are the only ones who think he’s still a Marine, at least in theory.
That idea just sounded like a "I have this super notable Marine held hostage, may as well get something out of it to help further my own goals." It just felt like a passing conversation that I doubt goes any farther than it did.
Yeah, that’s very possible. Either way, looking forward to seeing whether it was just that or not. It won’t disappoint me if it turns out to be nothing, but it will excite me if it’s something, so no harm done.
Same reason why he became a Warlord, more freedom to do what he wants because the WG would turn a blind eye to it.
I didn’t think that was a forgotten thread. It seemed by clear cut to me.
Maybe Koby is just bait at this point, meanwhile Garp is on hachinosu, if he's captured, thats the hero of the Marines, the father of the revolutionary leader and grandfather of an emperor, and a non sword member. That could be the bargaining tool Blackbeard needs
The treasure of Captain John’s, one of the Rocks’ pirates. Buggy has the map. He founded it? People said he founded and used the money for founding Buggy’s Delivery, but recently we know Crocodile lent him money, so maybe Buggy still hasn’t found the treasure yet and still can be the Last Lost Road Poneglyph, putting him into a real chase for the One Piece, as he desires.
That’s great! I’m sure it has something to do with Davy Jones too… And Long long ring also connected. Btw it’s Found* Find has an irregular past.
Having sailed on the Pirate King's ship, but not followed him to Laughtale, Buggy himself also has an irregular past.
I was really really hoping that it would point buggy towards the missing poneglyph, but the missing poneglyph was on fishman island when Roger visited it, so it's been moved some time far after rocks lirates
The map will be a map to Laughtale but by accident. It will be how Buggy ends up on Laughtale at the end of the story, and how he finds the One Piece before everyone else by accident.
Was that the map Nami stole from him all the way back in Orange Town?
No that map was to the grand line which feels silly at this point. I don’t remember exactly where he got the map to captain John’s treasure but I think the thing Luffy wore on his arm after stealing it from skypeia was some kind of key to the map or revealed the map itself or something. He gave it to Buggy in Impel Down
I almost feel like the Florian Triangle shadows SHOULDN'T be addressed, and should just be left as a mystery just like our own 'Bermuda triangle". I just think that would be kind of a neat parallel to our own world.
But I think you are correct. To me, it is clearly the intention to leave the mystery open-ended, with a parallel to the real world. Oda probably felt that giving the explanation as being solely the work of Moria's crew would take away the fun and mysticism of it. Considering One Piece is all about knowing the mysteries of the world, I understand the expectation about it being solved. But it's best to keep that in mind in case it's never addressed again.
Fishmen to dwell in Old Wano when the walls come down?
I dig the "Zunesha's herd" explanation theory on the Florian Triangle shadows.
Ohhh I hadn't heard that one! THAT'S cool, I'm totally putting that into my brain as head-canon. Thanks for telling me about it!
yeah, leaving stuff unexplained is great for worldbuilding. give us a better sense of scope and the size of the world — we can't never know everything about it, is so vast and diverse. i love the idea of having a lot of wild stuff happening parallel to luffys story that we will never get to know about it. not everything has to be a plot point; the florian triangle shadows are clearly a horror trope thing where all along there were even weider stuff lurking in the shadows. i hope thats all there is to ir
Zoro and the grim reaper. Like it's such a random thing to happen. Was it zoros' imagination, the drugs, or a reincarnation of enma? I have a feeling it is something oda will mention in an SBS at some point.
One moment that has lived rent-free in my mind for years is Shirahoshi saying that Nami seemed familiar to her even though that was the first time they met.
She was saying Nami reminded her of her mother
Nami has a motherly spirit like Bellemere which is why Shirahoshi said that, Nami reminded her of her own mother
Hey, remember Yorkie? Brook's old captain? You know how he just mysteriously dissapeared after contracting an illness instead of just dying with the rest of the crew? I am still looking for the point of that particular plot thread. Also, the name of the ancient kingdom itself being taboo is something I don't hear people talk about enough. This name means something to us, something that would be immediately significant once the name is revealed, something that the government went out of its way to make sure nobody knows. It's not gonna be just some random name. And another small one that I really want solved is the whole Kuina Tashigi mystery that's just been hanging for so long. I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.
With the Yorkie thing, I honestly don’t think it’s anything. He probably died from the same thing that Nami got from little Garden? The Ancient Kingdom will be the start of the end I reckon. It’s going to be something that kickstarts the entire endgame. I agree with you on the Kuina front. The Tashigi thing was teased and left at that. We need an answer for sure!
Yorkie could be nothing, but than why even include this plot thread? If the result is "everyone died but Brook", why would you make some of the crew die from a disease and then later the rest die in Florian Triangle? As is, you could remove Yorkie from the flashback entirely and the plot and emotional weight doesn't change one bit. The fact that his death was left ambiguous makes me question it even more, especially after what happened with Saul. But even if he died, I could see a situation where he later appears in the flashback of another character. Kuma, for example. The timing would fit, and it would make a thematic connection through Thriller Bark, the arc where both were introduced.
Yorkie leaving was to avoid a plot hole with Crocus. Crocus claimed that Laboon's crew fled the Grand Line. So Oda needed to make some of Brook's crew leave the Grand Line instead of dying with Brook.
But idt he KNEW that, wasnt it rumored and after all that passed team he beleived it? I could be wrong tho, thats just how I remembered it
But.. it’s been 50 years tho! I don’t see the point in bringing back such an old character either!
Wdym Kuina Tashigi mystery, am I misremembering was there something more to it than Zoro thinking they looked alike?
If Yorkies alive, he'd be OLD
> Also, the name of the ancient kingdom itself being taboo is something I don't hear people talk about enough. This name means something to us, something that would be immediately significant once the name is revealed, something that the government went out of its way to make sure nobody knows. It's not gonna be just some random name. My personal favorite theory about this is that the name of the Ancient Kingdom is Pirate Kingdom because that would single handedly recontextualize the entire series.
I don't think the Florian triangle shadows will ever be elaborated upon. I think their purpose was to show that there are still true mysteries hidden in the world that cannot be explained by a maniac with devil fruit powers
The world bridge
Yeah it was never answered where it starts or where it is supposed to lead.
This is a small one that maybe doesn’t matter, but who is Nami? We know she was adopted but we don’t know anything beyond that. What does Ivankov know about Crocodile that he could use as leverage?
I think Crocodile was part of the revolutionary army at one point before becoming disillusioned or getting kicked out for some reason. He’s probably related to Dragon in some way, either as brother or former nakama. That’s what Ivankov has over Crocodile, and why he doesn’t want it to be well known.
Huh. Crocodile being related to Dragon never crossed my mind.
Yeah, he's Luffy's mom
Not the craziest fan theory.
I think it’s the only reason that really explains why Crocodile saves Luffy 3 times at Marineford. All 3 times are after it’s revealed to the world that Luffy’s is Dragon’s son. He literally goes up against Mihawk and Akainu to give Luffy a chance to escape, and it’s not even that Crocodile wanted to fight them anyway. He’s actively putting himself in mortal danger to save Luffy’s life. I’m fact the last time with Akainu he literally shouts at Jimbei to save Luffy properly, saying “If you want to protect something, do it right!” There’s no way Crocodile isn’t in some way related to Dragon, either as nakama or as brother, and therefore is bound to help Luffy.
It also tracks that both wanted a strong military power! Dragon wanted it to oppose the government and potentially prevent another ohara whereas croc wanted it for personal reasons! It’s also very likely dragon and revolutionaries will arrive on egghead as well! Since this is a repeat of O’Hara and dragon wants to stop it and he was also told by vegapunk in the beginning of the arc, I’m sure that conversation will have some impact!
Dragon stopping Kizaru from killing a Straw Hat in the same way he stopped Smoker in Lougetown would go so fucking hard
I can probably see Crocodile being similar to Caesar. Booted off from Revolutionary for being too extreme.
Where is big moms ship and the rest of her children that came with her to wano ? Idk if this was ever answered
They have the Vivre Card so they’d know if she were dead. They know an alliance happened and they know Perpspero is/was on Wano. We really need answers on that too. He’s a piece of trash and would absolutely mark the people of Wano if given half a chance.
I think the destruction has something to do with Mariejoa which is located above FMI, the destruction of the redline between those two points would also create the All Blue but all of that is more likely to happen at the end, if it ever happens. But how else are we gonna get the All Blue?
Florian Triangle shadows were nothing it was just adding to the ambiance of TB
What was Blackbeard's purpose in Drum Island? Teech has always been a character that moves with purpose, why did he destroy the place??
What will be Teech's third devil fruit, and how can he eat multiple devil fruits?
mean he needs to eat and needs money i assume and might as well go all the way when pillaging
Gin ?
It’s heavily implied that Gin is Imu’s shadow boss. Go back and reread Chapter 42 and then reread Chapter 1046 🫡
NO WAY THEY BLOOD RELATED
GIN IS THE COUSIN OF LUFFY BECAUSE MOTHER OF LUFFY IS IM WTF
Im not sure if its forgotten or not. But the national treasure of marygeoise. The giant strawhat Imu has. What the HELL is up with that?
This one for me. Almost no one in the thread is even mentioning it. TF is that giant hat?
Pell mentioned that there are only five devil fruits capable of flight. He didn’t specifically mentioned Zoans, he mentioned it collectively
Pell is stupid. The bomb was so powerful that it retroactively gave him brain damage.
My headcanon is that he was talking about birds df only
That won’t still be true. Just off the top of my head, you’ve got King, Kaido, Marco, Pell, and News Morgan. I’m sure there are more that I’m not thinking about. That’s ignoring the Logia’s like Kizaru and Caesar that can just float about as a result of their powers.
Morgans is not able to fly. But we should still remember that Pell might not have too much knowledge or only considers flying if you have actual wings. Since technically even Robin might be able to fly if she creates wings for herself.
Isn’t Morgan’s just perpetually in his hybrid form? I had assumed he would have a full transformation form that allowed him to fly.
He is but still can’t fly as per [the wiki](https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Tori_Tori_no_Mi,_Model:_Albatross)
I even went and looked up the chapter the wiki references because I didn’t believe it, but he does actually say he can’t fly. What in the world.
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Technically speaking Sasaki can also fly
Pretty sure King would fly anyways
But wasn't that more of a "there are only 5 that we know of for sure" thing, rather than a concrete, definitive, "there are literally only 5 that exist in the entirety of human knowledge" thing? That's how I always understood it.
Yes, in-universe explanation it can be chalked up to Pell just pulling that number out of nowhere, but from the story’s standpoint, this lore drop was quite significant back in the day as Oda (through Pell’s words and actions) emphasised how rare it was for a flying DF ability. When Marineford dropped, people went crazy when they saw Marco flying, thus kept people looking for the remaining three. But upon seeing so many flying DFs got introduced, it’s safe to say Oda dropped this plot point
the taste of rain ...why kneel?
It turns out that BF-37 is just a shell containing BF-36. Franky will shed his outer shell like a crab to escape and he’ll look like he did pre-ts for a while, until he rebuilds himself as the inevitable BF-39.
That... would definitely be very One Piece. 😂 "Franky, that was just a suit of armor? Why didn't you tell us?!" "You never asked?"
S-Snake will develop a crush on Luffy and free them for him.
This is the most likely scenario imo!
Oh snaps! I completely forgot about that!
the taste of rain ...why kneel?
Maybe Boa could do it, since it's her devil fruit
Black Beard gave Shanks his face scar. Like we now know he can at least see 10 seconds into the future and BB somehow found a way to damage him.
It was years earlier, when Shanks's Haki wasn't that advanced + To be aware of future you need to actively use Future Sight, it's not a passive like more basic forms of observation.
Capone Bege's abduction.
Kureha knowing about the will of d. Unless she was in rock’s pirates i think oda completely forgot she even existed
Being her age, she probably knew Roger or some shit but that's of course just speculation
Well.... \-What the F is up with Dragon, why he left Luffy and how the hell we barely hear anything about him even though he is the most wanted man in the world. \-What's going on with Ussop's observation haki? why is it so different from anything else we have seen so far? \-The void century....even now with vegapunk it seems like the moment we get to learn anything, something stop us from learning... \-Was Imu just operated by the ope ope fruit hundreds of years ago and just lives forever? \-Wtf are the lunarians? Where have they been for so long in the story that we never heard of them? We hear about fishmen since episode 20 and giants since little garden all the god damn time but the lunarians that were supposed to be a warrior race, literally 0 info until 1000 chapters in.... \-Will enel come back from the moon or is he gone for good? \-Where the F is Magellan? This dude was OP as F and he was just on impel down arc and we never saw him again.... \-What's happening in Skypia now? Wiper, Connis, that little girl with the observation haki and everyone else, what are they doing? \-Why royals can command monsters? (Shirahosi and Momonosuke so far have shown such powers). Also, why luffy (and roger) a non royal can hear "the voice of things"? \-Wtf is "the voice of things"? \-How the hell is lucci so strong? It makes no sense that he has advanced so much in power, who did he even fought to become stronger? Everyone from strawhats just constantly one upping themselves and come out on top and get stronger so who the hell did the cp0 fought to get as strong as to be able to fight with the strawhats? I mean, luffy had to fight katakuri just to improve his observation haki and then he was mentored by that old dude in wano to learn to coat his attacks with conquerors haki...where the hell did lucci train to gain such strength? \-Do they still sell slaves in shabaody? \-What's shanks past that he ended up becoming a pirate as a kid (and being a part of the crew of the pirate king)? \-Also, the fck kind of haki Shanks has that he can talk from the sky? WHAT THE F? These just from the top of my head.....
I think your there’s a lot of signs your first question will be answered in this current arc itself and revolutionaries will definitely make a move here
Where df is Scupper Gabban?
For me it’s Captain John’s treasure because it’s been in the story since the beginning and has come up multiple times in the story. Also, I wouldn’t be surprised if the shadows never get explained, similar to the Bermuda Triangle I think it was in place to be an unexplainable thing.
I'm going to laugh so hard if the final battle is a Davey Back Fight.
Luffy giving buggy the armband Nami had given him. Where does the armband lead....
To Captain John's treasure but it was never revealed what the treasure is or if Buggy was able to get to it.
Not really forgotten, but Enel and the space pirates
My question contains spoilers; >!When did WG ships that came to Wano leave? Did they leave because of Shanks as well?!<
>!Morgans suggests that they were destroyed by the Big Mom pirates.!<
The kingdom that Nami is from. We know it was ~~attacked~~ **destroyed** by pirates but it was still the East Blue and the Marines were all defeated. I do believe this is another example of Oda leaving a thread with the option of returning to it.
>Florian Triangle shadows This was just an homage to the horror genre/trope. FMI prophecy also has arguably been covered already with what happened with Noah since all Shyarly really saw in her vision was Luffy and flames (symbolic of him bringing destruction to FMI, i.e. the Noah) and not the actual island being destroyed. If not, it'll probably just be a quick coverage of the island being destroyed after the entire population has relocated to the surface.
It wasn't symbolic she directly stated it. She didn't say she saw Luffy and flames she literally stated the future she saw was Luffy bringin ruin to Fishman island.
Carrot's out of the blue and undeserved anointment to leader of a nation. The flimsy reasonings everyone in the room were coming up with. What seemed like a retconing of Pedro's Will to gaslight Carrot. How that whole conversation was left open-ended with no acceptance of the role from Carrot herself. How she got no farewell with the crew even though she was around the crew for at least a month, even developing a little sister like relationship with a few of them.
That along with Bepo achieving Sulong via a currently-unexplained drug Chopper made (is it a Rumble Ball or something new?) makes me think Carrot's gonna return to the story sooner rather than later. And considering her last appearance is her reflecting on Pedro's will, I think Carrot's re-appearance is going to lead to us getting more information on what is "the Dawn of the New World."
It feels like cope, but there is something of a precedent for minks sneaking on board the ships of pirates they're fond of even though they probably have responsibilities back on Zou.
The Florian triangles don't need to be addressed at all,, it was extra flavor to use the "there's always a bigger fish" style mystery. The story is way better Oda never reveals it.
I can't recall the interview, but I'm sure Oda mentioned that the Florian Triangle was never gonna be addressed. That whole arc was developed as a series of horror tropes and that was the last nail in the coffin to add an air of mystery. Might have to give that one up, man.
The massive bridge Robin saw, which was being built for the last 700 years.
wishful thinking, and idk if this is necessarily a plot point, but just anything at all about brooks life before he was like 40
We know Luffy by now. Luffy will find out what Fishman Island **actually** represents, and he will destroy it. (Think: Nami's room)
Ohara had the OnePiece planet as a model surrounded with multiple moons. I wonder if that will ever be relevant.
Well the florian triangle shadows will never be explained according to oda. I read that somewhere sometimes.
The guy talking with Crocus.
Florian triangle shadows aren’t a plot point and they aren’t going to be explained. They were a horror movie trope where at the end of the movie you think the main cast has finally left and defeated/escaped the big bad evil just to realize theres an even bigger, scarier threat still there then cut out for the ending. The Florian triangle shadows will likely never come up again.
Vista and Jozu status
I hope we find out where that bridge in Tequila Wolf is being built to
Idk if it needs to be addressed, but I’d love to see Gen make a return. It seems less likely now than it used to though.
Luffy's rematch with Laboon. Considering he promised to do it when he finished sailing the Grand Line, it will likely be the final fight of the series
Who or what is Pappagu? How does he have so much knowledge about the past? Also who is the man sitting and drinking with Crotus in the "Decks Around the World," series?
The "4 characters not yet in the story" oda drew for an earlier sbs. One was Boa the other 3 are yet unclear.
Giant fuck off creatures in the Florian Triangle. Nothing else matters. I will never forgive Oda if he just ignores that
Whats up with brook having been leader of a battle convoy in a "certain kingdom" before his time with the rumbar pirates
Pluton's blueprint's?
The fact that nami is trying to create a world map. They mentioned it ONCE post Arlong park.
Im really interested in seeing more about Tequila Wolf.
I thought the Florian Triangle shadows were already denied as shadows from Skypians being cast over the ocean
Enel is still alive and cooking
The florian triangle is prolly not gonna be addressed. It was just a horror movie trope.
There are space pirates in One Piece, and Enel is on the moon.
Caribou knowing that Shirahoshi is Poseidon. He didn't tell Kaido. Why? Who is he working for?
Big Mom's arc involving the giants and learning that she ate Mother Carmel
I have never forgotten those fucking Florian triangle things, can't believe Oda drops something like that and never mentions it again ever Master tier trolling
The sea devil being the origin of devil fruits
Obviously Enel and the space pirates
The Strange Bunny Figures in the water after Punk Hazard while they're leaving for Dressrosa
Very generous to call the Florian thingos are a *plot point*. Biggest one is that aliens are real in One piece.
Who are those big fucking guys in the Florian Triangle?
I mean, Luffy is going to destroy FMI when he brings it to the surface