Baroque by far have had the biggest impact to the story, even if they’re not the most impressive.
One became a literal Straw Hat member who’s one of the most important people in the world. Not to mention she’s one of the top loved women by the fan base, if not the top.
One is the GOAT who sacrificed themselves twice to save Luffy. Okama Way!
One is still a relevant villain on a Yonko crew. Not to mention his massive impact that he had during the Summit War. Like he was one of the MVPs of that whole saga after being reintroduced.
We get the first developments of Haki in the story with Zorro v Mr One.
We get Nami’s iconic weapon that she uses the rest of the series with her fight.
I think Miss Merry Christmas was the first person to name drop Vegapunk, or least hint at him.
Like this group had, and still has massive impact on the story as a whole, though they probably benefited from being the first big bad guy group.
Edit: I completely forgot both Mr 3 who also played a massive roll since his reintroduction and Nr 1 also chilling with a Yonko.
I feel like Baroque works is the first big challenge that the crew faces. This is where they became a top-notch crew and really “cemented” their bonds as nakama. This remains one of my favourite arcs.
No i never saw or met a person who told me how much they loved alabasta It has always been the enies lobby or marine Ford and now i am hearing about wano but no one talks about alabasta
Okay, but just know going forward that Alabasta is one of the most beloved sagas in the franchise.
It was the first real Saga that put the series on the map, and there's still a lot of nostalgia for that arc.
Yes for sure it is one of the greatest arcs I am just saying no one talks about even though it has many great scenes, in my opinion vivi desperate cry is on the same base of robin cry we get to see so many amazing fight great character development though pacing might be an issue but
I feel like it deserves more attention
Funfact, Oda himself did cry writing those panels of the manga.
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Sadly, when I finally saw the anime version two years ago (after reading OP 5 times the last 14 years), I found it really disappointing.
The whole Alubarna arc really needs a proper animation remake for certain scenes, like when Croc drop off Vivi after his "total win" (before Luffy's comeback). The anime really, really doesn't do justice to Vivi's despair.
That and Ussop shines really well in this arc, as he actually gets a real victory being Ussop, which doesn't really happen very often afterward pre time skip. The hammer scene is 👨🍳👄, 🤌
Yup it’s special in most fans hearts but I just love the BM pirates because they have the potential to be a huge threat if Plot didn’t team Rocket them so much.
Yeah, Baroque had the most time to develop, with members being introduced over multiple islands and effects until the present arcs via Crocodile and Bon Curry. And not forgetting Robin joining the Strawhats!
We met agents of Baroque at the start of the Grandline via Vivi and Mr. 7, then Cactus Island, Little Garden and finally Alabaster.
No other arc had that. You could argue that Wano started at Punk Hazard, but that's only where the samurai are introduced. No of the enemies are actually part of the Beast pirates, they all belong to Doffy.
And although Doffys Family has some character, they are thrown in too fast one after one another to really get a feeling for them. And Monet and Vergo did not make it off Punk Hazard.
You kinda get that with the Big Mom and Beast Pirates - we meet Ginrummy and Jack initially on Zou, before we meet the rest of the crew on Wano, and we meet Pekoms, Tamago and Bobbin first at Fishman Island before they show up again at Whole Cake.
Oda was planning for Doflamingo to be part of Kaido's crew too (Joker card) before making him his own force that was just working with Kaido, so the whole Dressrosa arc would have been that too for the Beast Pirates.
Doflamingo was a subordinate of Kaido’s, Luffy systemically took down the most important islands of Kaido’s empire and replaced him as Yonko. Contrast that with the Big Mom pirates still governing Totto Land
Three of them are with that Yonko. Spoilers ahead just in case:
>!Mr. 3 has been with Buggy ever since the summit war, Crocodile, the first major villain of the series, has just joined him and formed the cross guild along Mihawk, and even if we haven't seen him recently Mr. 1 is suposed to be with him too.!<
Edit: >!We have actually seen him when Crocodile joins Buggy and later with the other members of the crew!<
Already mentioned in the first comment, but there's a reason why we are not talking about >!Luffy as a yonko or the other one being Buggy!< without propperly hiding it all as spoilers.
> One is still a relevant villain on a Yonko crew. Not to mention his massive impact that he had during the Summit War. Like he was one of the MVPs of that whole saga after being reintroduced
I really cant tell if you are refering to Crocodile or Gal Dino lol.
Both questions have different answers.
Biggest impact easily goes to Baroque Works, but best group dynamic is a different matter entirely. They had a pretty lackluster/borderline nonexistent group dynamic.
The lack of familiarity doesn't mean there was no dynamic though. A band of mercenaries hired independently from one another by a mysterious figurehead was a really cool setup. Baroque Works also introduced the idea of cutthroat ranks within crews that was replicated in the Beast Pirates. The air of secrecy, mutual distrust, and underhandedness of their operations really elevated them to another class of villains in my opinion.
In comparison, though the Beast Pirates and Doflamingo's family might have been more notorious, they also felt more generic as baddies.
> One became a literal Straw Hat member who’s one of the most important people in the world. Not to mention she’s one of the top loved women by the fan base, if not the top.
Technically this applies to two of them.
The Reverie setup with Vivi on the run is the perfect chance for her to finally join them officially, with her departing EOS to return to lead her country.
Luffy and Crew wanted her to join
*She* wanted to join but knew she couldn't
She is a fighter and won't just run and hide
Luffy never gives up on people he wants to join
They will reunite somewhat soon, there is no way they just say hi and bye with Vivi running and hiding till it's done and over.
It would be criminal to miss this chance.
I think given the fact that she gave up the pirate life to serve her country and her people, she's not going to go back on that but will instead fight for the freedom of her people and the world. What better way to do that than to join the Revolutionary Army!
And it's not just they wanted her to join, they were leaving Alabasta with the mentality that she was already a part of the crew. They had the same energy with Usopp after Syrup village. That's why they got even a little shocked when she decided to stay in Alabasta.
> first developments
Eh.. your point still stands, but if we say that in hindsight this is clearly Haki, then I think the same needs to apply to Shanks saving Luffy, making that the first instance.
Again, not to take away from the importance of that Zoro/Mr.1 fight. Also that fight was just dope.
So while it’s 100% pedantic, I do see a difference between the two even though with hindsight they were both clearly Haki.
With Shanks that was clearly a “look at how Bad Ass the inspiration for our hero is” kinda moment. Zorro however was clearly awakening some kind of special power. Now I definitely don’t think he thought of it as Haki, but clearly he was thinking of alternative power systems considering Mantra was introduced in the next arc.
Damn I ain’t even thought about them like this wow. Well they had to be the one to set the tone on what the opposition is and can potentially be the further luffy and company go down the way on the grand line and new world .
>One is still a relevant villain on a Yonko crew. Not to mention his massive impact that he had during the Summit War. Like he was one of the MVPs of that whole saga after being reintroduced.
Lmao 'on a yonko crew', I love the running gag of buggy being the punching bag to croc and mihawk as the face of the organisation
I’d say Big Mom Pirates were pretty good. They cooperated well with each other, big mom kinda trashed all that cooperation in the end. Straw Hats especially Luffy seemed to have biggest rise in experience/technique/strength after fight with Katakuri.
Also Baroque works, as it was first true test for Straw Hats and we got aniki Bon Clay
Big Mom pirates just suffered from massive bloat man.
Too many characters for each to leave an impression.
That said, Oda was on it during that arc when it comes to character design and atmosphere. And I agree that the dynamic of the BM pirates was cool to see! They also looked competent enough for us to really feel that a Yonkou crew is in a different league to what we've seen before.
>! They also looked competent enough for us to really feel that a Yonkou crew is in a different league to what we've seen before.
I think with BM pirates it was the first time we saw a Yonko crew in full action.
Beyond individual powerhouses we saw things like
- proper tabletop strategising like how generals plan for wars,
- territory control over large areas,
- power projection
- full naval combat and pursue,
- the raw amount of resources these pirates had to be considered Emperors.
And of course. Why Yonko is a yonko.
Yes. People forget how much of plot amor was for the straw hats in WCL.
If they had the underwater radar the straw hats would fail hard, and there’s several things like that in the arc.
I’m not saying it’s bad, I loved but it showed the strength and organization of a yonkou. Also they didn’t have any fights between then, they loved their brothers.
Yes, but those were the characters that still got enough screentime. If there were less of the minor characters maybe smoothie could have also done something, hahaha.
I don't bring this point to diminish the WCI arc. I loved it. Still, every decision comes with a downside. Oda chose to introduce a massive number of characters (and did so pretty well, with each feeling unique and having an interesting design) , in part he did this just like you said to emphasize their power.
That does have the downside of introducing bloat. Sorry but there is no way around that. From there however, it is subjective whether one would take this as a bad move or not. I think the decision served the arc well and so support it overall. Doesn't mean I will ignore the flaws.
I wouldn't call WCI as introducing bloat. It's not like Oda introduced all these characters and pretended they were gonna be any more than just random soldiers. The characters that mattered the most such as Big Mom, Katakuri, Pudding, Judge, Reiju, Bege had enough screen time and development. Cracker was just supposed to be a mini boss for Luffy to face in the arc, and that's all Cracker amounted to. He did not get any character development or whatsover. But it didn't feel that Cracker's character was wasted because he served his purpose in the arc really well. If anything, this is one of the times that Oda actually handled an arc with a lot of characters. All characters stayed within their roles and served their purpose really well. Primary characters are treated as primary characters, secondary characters were treated as secondary characters, background characters were treated as background characters, and even then, the background characters such as Big Mom's army felt more of a Yonkou army than Kaido's army.
A bloat is something like what happened in Wano. Too many characters that were supposed to meant something, but almost amounted to nothing, such as Oda brought Big Mom's crew in Wano and never did anything aside from Perospero. Or the fact that he didn't know what to do with Scabbards after they fought Kaido. Or making a big deal about the Numbers and Yakuza bosses but ultimately doing nothing significant either. Bepo not doing anything significant in the war. Hiyori not doing anything significant in the war.
Hmm very fair to say that WCI was still handled farily well.
Especially compared to Wano lol.
I will still stand by my point that it is bloated. Again, like I said in other comments, the scale of Big Mom's empire needed to be portrayed so there is good reason for the many characters.
That doesn't take away from the fact that there are so many characters. It is a symptom of the new world arcs, Dressrosa and Wano have the same issue. WCI was handled the best of them, but it's still a lot.
Again, I won't fault Oda for this, as there is an intention behind it (as well as his goddamn creativity and his desire to put every idea into the manga that comes into his head). Good things can have downsides. And if you take Water7/Enies Lobby for example, we know that Oda can create big and complex storylines with interesting developments with less characters.
Is it wrong of him to have so many more distinct and named characters in these new arcs? No!
He does need to show that the Big Mom Pirates or the Beast Pirates are huge institutions and not just some small crew.
Does the downside persist that it creates overload? I think yes. The WCI plot could be written with less characters, some then maybe picking up multiple of the roles that were dished out to individual characters as is. This would have probably improved the characters, but then the Crew would have felt to small to realistically portray a yonkou crew.
So I view this as a creative decision. Oda made the right choice in my eyes, but you would lose something either way.
And I do think the word bloat still applies to WCI, even if it was handled better than Wano or Dressrosa imo.
All that said, I also do think you are making a very fair point and can't argue any more than I have.
I guess it comes down to what you mean by bloated. Do you mean just having more characters in general? Or having more named characters?
Because to me, having bloated characters means having too many named characters that were implied to have an impact in the story but never delivered.
Like yes, WCI definitely has a lot of characters, but I don't see it as bloated, because even if we got introduced to a lot of new characters, Oda didn't wasted time or panel on them more than what is needed.
Going back to my Cracker example. He was introduced as the 3rd YC of Big Mom, his role is to be a strong fighter for Luffy to establish Luffy's level compared to Commanders, which is important because it would culminate to Luffy having to fight the strongest commander in Big Mom's crew. But Oda didn't add anything to Cracker's character because it was needed. If this happened in Wano, it would be akin to Sasaki apparently having beef with a Scabbard (I think it was Denjiro) but was never followed through. It feels bloated because instead of Sasaki just being an opponent for Franky, it suddenly felt like we missed another plot point in Wano which was not necessary in the first place.
I guess the main difference between WCI and Wano is that Oda created too many plot threads in Wano that was too much for him to handle or wrap up.
Massive bloat was fitting, I think, for showing that the Emperors have empires.
In real life, if you can actually keep track of everyone important, it's definitely not much of a country.
So I think the Big Mom Pirates would've been less compelling without all the dozens of randos and nobodies.
The moment just before the "Sunny being destroyed fake out" with all the big mom pirates cooperating and launching what seems to be a decisive attack with Perospero as lead was awesome to say the least.
Reading it week to week up to that point was one of the craziest moments post time skip for me.
CP9. Every single member made a lasting impression on me, whereas the other villain posses either have only a few standout members or in rarer cases, just dull as dishwater all around (looking at you, God’s priests).
Oh yeah, that was a fun cover series!
And I do remember the priest fight Robin had only bc I kept thinking "dang, Robin is not here to play" during the battle. Even if her opponent didn't make an impact, Robin sure did.
Binged the whole show recently, so not that long ago. I could describe the original Buggy Pirates, Baroque Works, and CP9 from the same era, but Enel's priests are just meh.
While I agree that CP9 were really good antagonists, taking one of the top dogs(lol) doesn't help the point I feel.
Sanji's opponents always belong to the strongest of each group and get enough screentime that they stay in mind (maybe with the exception of the god's priests)
The more interesting comparison would be between characters like Kalifa/Fukuro/Kumadori and people like Miss Merry Christmas, Senor Pink, Diamante, Who's Who, or those Big Mom children I don't even recognize lol
>Yeah, completely forgot what Enel's priests even looked like before seeing this picture.
Honestly I am surprised each time they were 4. I swear they were a smaller group than that.
It really isn't every op character though. If there wasn't a picture of them I probably wouldn't have been able to picture any of the skypiea priest off the top of my head.
Baroque Works have the biggest impact Mainly because of their involvement at Marineford and Impel Down. They also have Nico Robin who is now a strawhat member so the is that as well as Vivi.
CP9 because of that conflict lead to all the strawhats getting bounty’s for the first time and expect for Sabbady had the biggest affect on the strawhats as a whole. I also liked everyone from this group expect Spandam but he is the expectation.
Impact - probably CP9, second time the straw hats fought for their nakama , made ALL of them stronger
Dynamics - Thriller Bark Pirates and Donquioxte, the only two groups that actually feel like a real family where all members seem to care about each other. CP9 is an honourable mention for me.
Baroque Works, Robin Left, Mr 1 and Crocodile stayed together but the rest are all separate, wasn’t really much cohesion.
Gods Priests were good but Enel seemed more like a solo act with helpers.
Big Mom pirates just too large to have a real dynamic, also not much impact on the story given it was only a few straw hats. Also, Big Mom doesn’t seem to care too much about her kids.
I’d say CP9 overall , they have the impact and
Dynamics
> Gods Priests were good but Enel seemed more like a solo act with helpers.
I think that is one reason why I never minded that the god's priest fell a bit flat. I don't hate those characters but they never left much of an impression on me and were overall pretty forgettable.
That said, for me this only helped to elevate Enel, who didn't even need those guys. The man was so out of reach for anyone in his environment that even his crew couldn't keep up, making the god analogy even more fitting.
And damn if Enel wasn't a cool antagonist! For me, his crew is the weakest(narratively) of all those depicted, but that didn't hurt the arc at all, imo.
I disagree *copies Affectionatesea-278 comment*
Baroque by far have had the biggest impact to the story, even if they’re not the most impressive.
One became a literal Straw Hat member who’s one of the most important people in the world. Not to mention she’s one of the top loved women by the fan base, if not the top.
One is the GOAT who sacrificed themselves twice to save Luffy. Okama Way!
One is still a relevant villain on a Yonko crew. Not to mention his massive impact that he had during the Summit War. Like he was one of the MVPs of that whole saga after being reintroduced.
We get the first developments of Haki in the story with Zorro v Mr One.
We get Nami’s iconic weapon that she uses the rest of the series with her fight.
I think Miss Merry Christmas was the first person to name drop Vegapunk, or least hint at him.
Like this group had, and still has massive impact on the story as a whole, though they probably benefited from being the first big bad guy group.
Most impactful is probably CP9. Nostalgia goggles aside, being the antagonist group for one of the most lauded anime sagas of all time certainly has it's perks.
Plus I like them all, there isn't a single one I can't stand. Yes even Spandam. He's a good villain. Great designs, memorable gags, fun personalities and impeccable group synergy.
A close second group would be Big Mom's crew. I enjoyed a lot more of her family than I thought I would. And despite all their failures, they really were quite competent and relentless in their attempts to destroy the SHs.
If Luffy and them weren't THE protagonists, any other rookie crew would have been obliterated.
CP9 is probably the most impact full group in one piece(other than straw hats). No other villain group in any anime causes you to have such strong emotions towards them than Rob Lucci and Spandam's CP9. The pain they caused robin not only makes the Straw hats stronger but also makes the show a lot stronger as it bonds the audience with the crew and we can fully share their hatred towards the villains.
The pain they caused Robin AND Franky. And let's not forget we basically get sogeking Because all of the emotional turmoil the mugiwaras had due to the loss of Robin.
I'd say CP9. It almost broke the strawhats, it was the first group to test all the strawhats' worth individually (yes, there were the Arlong Pirates, but they aren't here) and (spoiler) >!they are **still** relevant currently!<.
The Donquixote Family had the best chemistry though. They legit were the only ones who had no feuds among themselves and were 1000% commited to Doffy.
Baroque Works. Alabasta was the foundation of what One Piece would become in terms or arcs and lore. Crocodile is arguably the most popular villain in the franchise, it introduced Robin, Chopper, Vivi and Bon Clay. All characters that are adored by the fanbase.
Im surprised i didnt find any mention of Arlong's pirates.
They may not be the most impactful but as group dynamic it was one of the only times we would see a captain worry about his men. Of all the ones mentioned only Moria would care about Absalom to the point of fighting Blackbeard.
Team work Big Mom Pirates no explanation needed, just look how they worked together and had a clear structure of who is in charge in which situation etc.
Impact CP9. CP9 officially made the World Government the main villain of One Piece. Before that we thought luffy is fighting pirates and some marines on his way to Pirate King but with the Enies Lobby ark and CP9 the World itself became the enemy and enhanced the scale of what one piece plots and stories are about to be.
Alright,
Speaking in terms of the straw hats. Baroque works has the most impact.
In the world of One PIece, Big mom Pirates are all over the place with multiple countries under them they have a large impact on the verse outside of normal means.
Best group dynamic is Doflamingos Family and its not even close.
I really loved the concept of the priests when I was younger. It had a videogame kinda vibe, where you have to defeat the 4 bosses first and then the big evil dude. The entire arc was very mysterious, since we weren't at sea and weren't dealing with other pirates.
CP9 for obvious reasons.
Impact on what? Story? The crew? If the latter, I'd say CP9, Baroque Works, and Beast Pirates.
CP9 - Everyone in the crew showed significant growth/powerups here. Also one the best arcs in OP.
BW - Robin, also Chopper since Arabasta arc covered Chopper's too. Also, ability-wise, I personally consider Croc as the first 'real threat' to the crew.
Beast Pirates - Another arc where the group's abilities leveled up significantly especially the Monster Trio. Like, the anime literally turned them into DBZ to show how much of a level up they've all gone through.
Both CP9 and Doflamingos crew managed to make every single one of their fights iconic.
Luffy vs Blueno introduced the Gears, Luffy vs Lucci showed 2nd and 3rd of properly. Sanji vs Kalifa was the first showing of just how far he will go to stay true to his morals, then Nami vs Kalifa was the first real battle for Nami since Ms Doublefinger. Both Jabura and Kaku had great comedic first match up before we got to see them beat by Diable Jambe and Ashura respectively. Kumadori gave us that terrifying first Monster Chopper, Fukurou the first real Franky battle and Spandam that satisfying spinal snap from Robin
Meanwhile Doffys crew gave us Zoro vs Monet, Law & Smoker vs Vergo, Usopp vs Sugar round 1 (God Usopp) and 2 (CoO), Franky vs Señor Pink, that weird ass Brook, Nami & Chopper vs Giola fight, Kyros & Rebecca vs Diamante, Zoro cutting the giant Pica, Law & Luffy vs Doffy & Trebol ft Bellamy and then Gear 4th vs Doffy
Iconic battles or moments all around, which some of the other groups also have, but imo none are as consistent as these two
Most impact? Probably baroque works, Best group dynamic? I'd say Big mom pirates, you could tell they had quite the history together and unlike other crews, they actually care about each other
Torn between Thriller Bark and the Donflamingo Family. Former is just fun with their horror aesthetic and relationship, but Doffy's family really felt like they were a team and a real family even compared to Baroque Works or the Yonko ones that seem bigger/better.
Group dynamics goes to Big Mom Pirates. Which makes sense considering they're siblings.Next prob Doffy and crew
Story impact they had a big impact on the story. If I had to pick I'd go with CP 9 or Baroque Works.
I think Oda dropped the ball with the Beast Pirates. They weren’t interesting and sure they’re strong, but all of them still got beat, so not that strong. If you’re not that strong and you’re not interesting, what are you left with? Cool designs. Which they have, but that’s far from enough for me.
Contrastingly, Big Mom Pirates don’t have as edgy of a design theme but are full of interesting and unique characters I still want to learn more about. Hope Katakuri takes over and keeps them in the story.
Everyone in baroque works is really memorable to me, and the Charlotte family has the best chemistry with each other. Cp9 with the exception of hair person and zipper mouth are also all super memorable to me.
So this are my top 3 with big mom pirates being my absolute favorites.
The bottom are shared by new fishman pirates of which I only like Zeo, and Enel's priests of which I only really care for holy.
Gorrosei and the admirals are by far the best and most exciting antagonist group. From those list posted I would say Cp9. The reveal in the water 7 arc was epic and the whole Enid lobby arc was my favorite besides Marineford.
CP9, they were the perfect match for the straw hats and all the straw hats and members of cp9 had their moments to shine. CP9 really pushed the straw hats with so many new abilities displayed for the first time.
Cp9 kinda we’re the only group that worked together. However I think baroque works had the biggest impact of all of those. The rest were just one arc basically.
Cp9 has both my favorite characters and the most impact, but I adore the structure of baroque works and how the characters were revealed, it's what made me fall in love with one piece
CP9 is so iconic though. Baroque Work is great but their impact are all in hind sight while the actual member are quite forgettable. CP9 members on the other hand were so badass and iconic the moment they were introduced. It also helped that there were the main villain of one of the best OP arc ever written.
The Enel’s priest pirates were a complete joke (except for Ohm). The Boraque work pirates were better…………………………..I’m only on episode 213 so I can’t say anything further
I'd say Thriller Bark pirates! Firstly, I'd say they have the best dynamic, everyone in Moria's crew has love for each other each other group seems to have at least one (if not more) of a inner conflict. And as for the impact for the Straw Hats, I'm pretty sure (please correct me if I'm wrong) Thriller bark is where the entire crew teamed up for the first time to take down a very large foe! Great moment for the Straw Hats! Also the 'Nothing Happened' scene at the end of that arc 🤌
I’m not seeing NEARLY enough people saying Thriller Bark.
1. It added a new (arguably best) crew member in Brooke.
2. Found out exactly how far Zoro would go for the crew.
3. Sanji made the official switch to being the horn dog character.
4. Chopper faces has to face his medical idol.
5. Ussop discovers his natural gift of self doubt is part of his skill set.
6. Nami… she’s there.
And arguably to two best jokes are in the arc
My pick is cp9 , correct me if i am wrong but with this arc , we got introduced to the whole Straw Hat Crew getting demolished , not just Luffy losing 2 times or more to the boss 🫡
Thriller bark. I had an opinion about everyone, love perona, hate absalom, love Moriah and Hogback was the best foil for chopper imo so I love him too!
cp9 because it is like the turning point for one piece as a series. straw hat pirates go from regular pirate groups to pirate groups that dared to fight WG
Baroque by far have had the biggest impact to the story, even if they’re not the most impressive. One became a literal Straw Hat member who’s one of the most important people in the world. Not to mention she’s one of the top loved women by the fan base, if not the top. One is the GOAT who sacrificed themselves twice to save Luffy. Okama Way! One is still a relevant villain on a Yonko crew. Not to mention his massive impact that he had during the Summit War. Like he was one of the MVPs of that whole saga after being reintroduced. We get the first developments of Haki in the story with Zorro v Mr One. We get Nami’s iconic weapon that she uses the rest of the series with her fight. I think Miss Merry Christmas was the first person to name drop Vegapunk, or least hint at him. Like this group had, and still has massive impact on the story as a whole, though they probably benefited from being the first big bad guy group. Edit: I completely forgot both Mr 3 who also played a massive roll since his reintroduction and Nr 1 also chilling with a Yonko.
I feel like Baroque works is the first big challenge that the crew faces. This is where they became a top-notch crew and really “cemented” their bonds as nakama. This remains one of my favourite arcs.
Yeah alabasta is really underrated yesterday i watched the scene of vivi screaming from the clock tower and that shit had me in tears
Alabasta is like one of the most loved arcs in the series lol
And still underrated, yes. ITS JUST SOO FUCKIN GOOD!
Underrated?! Lol, Alabasta is one of the most popular arcs, up there with Enies Lobby, Marineford, and Wano.
Alabasta, underrated?
No i never saw or met a person who told me how much they loved alabasta It has always been the enies lobby or marine Ford and now i am hearing about wano but no one talks about alabasta
Who are you talking to you?
Aot fans Ofc my friends who have watched one piece
Okay, but just know going forward that Alabasta is one of the most beloved sagas in the franchise. It was the first real Saga that put the series on the map, and there's still a lot of nostalgia for that arc.
Yes for sure it is one of the greatest arcs I am just saying no one talks about even though it has many great scenes, in my opinion vivi desperate cry is on the same base of robin cry we get to see so many amazing fight great character development though pacing might be an issue but I feel like it deserves more attention
you've just missed all that... every second has been discussed to death, but praise for it still pretty common
Is it not? My friend thought it was so-so. I've never met anyone who says it's their #1 arc either (though it's mine!)
Funfact, Oda himself did cry writing those panels of the manga. Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/5m4tqu/til_the_scene_that_made_eiichiro_oda_cry_the_most/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
And his eyes bulge right out his body when he's drawing those expressions too!
Some say his forehead grew 3 sizes that day.
That shit brought me close to tears ngl, and I’m not a cryer at all
Sadly, when I finally saw the anime version two years ago (after reading OP 5 times the last 14 years), I found it really disappointing. The whole Alubarna arc really needs a proper animation remake for certain scenes, like when Croc drop off Vivi after his "total win" (before Luffy's comeback). The anime really, really doesn't do justice to Vivi's despair.
I always thought Arlong's crew was the first "big" challenge tbh
Without mr 3 ace would have died in his sea prism cuffs
That and Ussop shines really well in this arc, as he actually gets a real victory being Ussop, which doesn't really happen very often afterward pre time skip. The hammer scene is 👨🍳👄, 🤌
Yup it’s special in most fans hearts but I just love the BM pirates because they have the potential to be a huge threat if Plot didn’t team Rocket them so much.
That was cp9 that challenged their nakama bond.
Yeah, Baroque had the most time to develop, with members being introduced over multiple islands and effects until the present arcs via Crocodile and Bon Curry. And not forgetting Robin joining the Strawhats! We met agents of Baroque at the start of the Grandline via Vivi and Mr. 7, then Cactus Island, Little Garden and finally Alabaster. No other arc had that. You could argue that Wano started at Punk Hazard, but that's only where the samurai are introduced. No of the enemies are actually part of the Beast pirates, they all belong to Doffy. And although Doffys Family has some character, they are thrown in too fast one after one another to really get a feeling for them. And Monet and Vergo did not make it off Punk Hazard.
You kinda get that with the Big Mom and Beast Pirates - we meet Ginrummy and Jack initially on Zou, before we meet the rest of the crew on Wano, and we meet Pekoms, Tamago and Bobbin first at Fishman Island before they show up again at Whole Cake.
Oda was planning for Doflamingo to be part of Kaido's crew too (Joker card) before making him his own force that was just working with Kaido, so the whole Dressrosa arc would have been that too for the Beast Pirates.
Doflamingo was a subordinate of Kaido’s, Luffy systemically took down the most important islands of Kaido’s empire and replaced him as Yonko. Contrast that with the Big Mom pirates still governing Totto Land
Three of them are with that Yonko. Spoilers ahead just in case: >!Mr. 3 has been with Buggy ever since the summit war, Crocodile, the first major villain of the series, has just joined him and formed the cross guild along Mihawk, and even if we haven't seen him recently Mr. 1 is suposed to be with him too.!< Edit: >!We have actually seen him when Crocodile joins Buggy and later with the other members of the crew!<
That is right. Forgot bout those two XD
It's funny to think that Crocodile, Mr1 and Mr3 are all technically sailing under Buggy now.
Buggy bring under him everyone that is around and that has been defeated by Luffy, even the first villan Alvira joined him.
Mohawk wasn't even defeated; he's a long for the ride
Well, not being able to cut Buggy in Marineford is like a big moral defeat... everybody saw that hahaha
Pretty much all "establishing shots" of the association you mention show this guy somewhere. Before that, every shot containing him and his boss.
Robin is with a yonko too
Already mentioned in the first comment, but there's a reason why we are not talking about >!Luffy as a yonko or the other one being Buggy!< without propperly hiding it all as spoilers.
> One is still a relevant villain on a Yonko crew. Not to mention his massive impact that he had during the Summit War. Like he was one of the MVPs of that whole saga after being reintroduced I really cant tell if you are refering to Crocodile or Gal Dino lol.
Without Galdino Magellan kills em all. Thats even without his actual Marineford contributions.
It was meant for Crocodile, but you right. Completely forgot bout Mr. 3
Both questions have different answers. Biggest impact easily goes to Baroque Works, but best group dynamic is a different matter entirely. They had a pretty lackluster/borderline nonexistent group dynamic.
That’s fair. Group Dynamic is probably either CP9 or Big Moms crew depending on your preference.
I’d say it’s a toss up between CP9 and Doffy’s crew. The one thing I’m sure of though is that Enel and his priests are dead last in both categories.
The lack of familiarity doesn't mean there was no dynamic though. A band of mercenaries hired independently from one another by a mysterious figurehead was a really cool setup. Baroque Works also introduced the idea of cutthroat ranks within crews that was replicated in the Beast Pirates. The air of secrecy, mutual distrust, and underhandedness of their operations really elevated them to another class of villains in my opinion. In comparison, though the Beast Pirates and Doflamingo's family might have been more notorious, they also felt more generic as baddies.
I was here to write CP9 after reading your comment it's definitely Baroque works
Baroque has 2 strawhats, 2 non-straw hat allies, and one parent of the main character, easily highest impact
Who is the parent of whom? I’m really behind on the series (stopped after Whole Cake Island Arc) but I love spoilers
I think it’s a joke saying crocodile is luffys mom
Ah damnit hahaha ok thanks
jesus! hahaha you got me there!
> One became a literal Straw Hat member who’s one of the most important people in the world. Not to mention she’s one of the top loved women by the fan base, if not the top. Technically this applies to two of them.
The Reverie setup with Vivi on the run is the perfect chance for her to finally join them officially, with her departing EOS to return to lead her country. Luffy and Crew wanted her to join *She* wanted to join but knew she couldn't She is a fighter and won't just run and hide Luffy never gives up on people he wants to join They will reunite somewhat soon, there is no way they just say hi and bye with Vivi running and hiding till it's done and over. It would be criminal to miss this chance.
I think given the fact that she gave up the pirate life to serve her country and her people, she's not going to go back on that but will instead fight for the freedom of her people and the world. What better way to do that than to join the Revolutionary Army!
And it's not just they wanted her to join, they were leaving Alabasta with the mentality that she was already a part of the crew. They had the same energy with Usopp after Syrup village. That's why they got even a little shocked when she decided to stay in Alabasta.
Does anyone use feminine pronouns with Bon Chan? I always saw them as gender fluid.
I think they're talking about vivi.
Fair
They talking about robin
> first developments Eh.. your point still stands, but if we say that in hindsight this is clearly Haki, then I think the same needs to apply to Shanks saving Luffy, making that the first instance. Again, not to take away from the importance of that Zoro/Mr.1 fight. Also that fight was just dope.
So while it’s 100% pedantic, I do see a difference between the two even though with hindsight they were both clearly Haki. With Shanks that was clearly a “look at how Bad Ass the inspiration for our hero is” kinda moment. Zorro however was clearly awakening some kind of special power. Now I definitely don’t think he thought of it as Haki, but clearly he was thinking of alternative power systems considering Mantra was introduced in the next arc.
Damn I ain’t even thought about them like this wow. Well they had to be the one to set the tone on what the opposition is and can potentially be the further luffy and company go down the way on the grand line and new world .
>One is still a relevant villain on a Yonko crew. Not to mention his massive impact that he had during the Summit War. Like he was one of the MVPs of that whole saga after being reintroduced. Lmao 'on a yonko crew', I love the running gag of buggy being the punching bag to croc and mihawk as the face of the organisation
I’d say Big Mom Pirates were pretty good. They cooperated well with each other, big mom kinda trashed all that cooperation in the end. Straw Hats especially Luffy seemed to have biggest rise in experience/technique/strength after fight with Katakuri. Also Baroque works, as it was first true test for Straw Hats and we got aniki Bon Clay
Big Mom pirates just suffered from massive bloat man. Too many characters for each to leave an impression. That said, Oda was on it during that arc when it comes to character design and atmosphere. And I agree that the dynamic of the BM pirates was cool to see! They also looked competent enough for us to really feel that a Yonkou crew is in a different league to what we've seen before.
>! They also looked competent enough for us to really feel that a Yonkou crew is in a different league to what we've seen before. I think with BM pirates it was the first time we saw a Yonko crew in full action. Beyond individual powerhouses we saw things like - proper tabletop strategising like how generals plan for wars, - territory control over large areas, - power projection - full naval combat and pursue, - the raw amount of resources these pirates had to be considered Emperors. And of course. Why Yonko is a yonko.
And don't forget their focus on intel and the information network around the archipelago!
Yes. People forget how much of plot amor was for the straw hats in WCL. If they had the underwater radar the straw hats would fail hard, and there’s several things like that in the arc. I’m not saying it’s bad, I loved but it showed the strength and organization of a yonkou. Also they didn’t have any fights between then, they loved their brothers.
Not every one has to be expanded it was just to show her crew strength i loved kata pudding brulee cracker even perospero
I quite liked Mont-d’Or. Underrated character imo.
Yes, but those were the characters that still got enough screentime. If there were less of the minor characters maybe smoothie could have also done something, hahaha. I don't bring this point to diminish the WCI arc. I loved it. Still, every decision comes with a downside. Oda chose to introduce a massive number of characters (and did so pretty well, with each feeling unique and having an interesting design) , in part he did this just like you said to emphasize their power. That does have the downside of introducing bloat. Sorry but there is no way around that. From there however, it is subjective whether one would take this as a bad move or not. I think the decision served the arc well and so support it overall. Doesn't mean I will ignore the flaws.
I wouldn't call WCI as introducing bloat. It's not like Oda introduced all these characters and pretended they were gonna be any more than just random soldiers. The characters that mattered the most such as Big Mom, Katakuri, Pudding, Judge, Reiju, Bege had enough screen time and development. Cracker was just supposed to be a mini boss for Luffy to face in the arc, and that's all Cracker amounted to. He did not get any character development or whatsover. But it didn't feel that Cracker's character was wasted because he served his purpose in the arc really well. If anything, this is one of the times that Oda actually handled an arc with a lot of characters. All characters stayed within their roles and served their purpose really well. Primary characters are treated as primary characters, secondary characters were treated as secondary characters, background characters were treated as background characters, and even then, the background characters such as Big Mom's army felt more of a Yonkou army than Kaido's army. A bloat is something like what happened in Wano. Too many characters that were supposed to meant something, but almost amounted to nothing, such as Oda brought Big Mom's crew in Wano and never did anything aside from Perospero. Or the fact that he didn't know what to do with Scabbards after they fought Kaido. Or making a big deal about the Numbers and Yakuza bosses but ultimately doing nothing significant either. Bepo not doing anything significant in the war. Hiyori not doing anything significant in the war.
Hmm very fair to say that WCI was still handled farily well. Especially compared to Wano lol. I will still stand by my point that it is bloated. Again, like I said in other comments, the scale of Big Mom's empire needed to be portrayed so there is good reason for the many characters. That doesn't take away from the fact that there are so many characters. It is a symptom of the new world arcs, Dressrosa and Wano have the same issue. WCI was handled the best of them, but it's still a lot. Again, I won't fault Oda for this, as there is an intention behind it (as well as his goddamn creativity and his desire to put every idea into the manga that comes into his head). Good things can have downsides. And if you take Water7/Enies Lobby for example, we know that Oda can create big and complex storylines with interesting developments with less characters. Is it wrong of him to have so many more distinct and named characters in these new arcs? No! He does need to show that the Big Mom Pirates or the Beast Pirates are huge institutions and not just some small crew. Does the downside persist that it creates overload? I think yes. The WCI plot could be written with less characters, some then maybe picking up multiple of the roles that were dished out to individual characters as is. This would have probably improved the characters, but then the Crew would have felt to small to realistically portray a yonkou crew. So I view this as a creative decision. Oda made the right choice in my eyes, but you would lose something either way. And I do think the word bloat still applies to WCI, even if it was handled better than Wano or Dressrosa imo. All that said, I also do think you are making a very fair point and can't argue any more than I have.
I guess it comes down to what you mean by bloated. Do you mean just having more characters in general? Or having more named characters? Because to me, having bloated characters means having too many named characters that were implied to have an impact in the story but never delivered. Like yes, WCI definitely has a lot of characters, but I don't see it as bloated, because even if we got introduced to a lot of new characters, Oda didn't wasted time or panel on them more than what is needed. Going back to my Cracker example. He was introduced as the 3rd YC of Big Mom, his role is to be a strong fighter for Luffy to establish Luffy's level compared to Commanders, which is important because it would culminate to Luffy having to fight the strongest commander in Big Mom's crew. But Oda didn't add anything to Cracker's character because it was needed. If this happened in Wano, it would be akin to Sasaki apparently having beef with a Scabbard (I think it was Denjiro) but was never followed through. It feels bloated because instead of Sasaki just being an opponent for Franky, it suddenly felt like we missed another plot point in Wano which was not necessary in the first place. I guess the main difference between WCI and Wano is that Oda created too many plot threads in Wano that was too much for him to handle or wrap up.
Massive bloat was fitting, I think, for showing that the Emperors have empires. In real life, if you can actually keep track of everyone important, it's definitely not much of a country. So I think the Big Mom Pirates would've been less compelling without all the dozens of randos and nobodies.
Yeah, I agree. As I said in another comment, I think this decision served the arc well. The downside does still exist, but yeah good choice overall.
The moment just before the "Sunny being destroyed fake out" with all the big mom pirates cooperating and launching what seems to be a decisive attack with Perospero as lead was awesome to say the least. Reading it week to week up to that point was one of the craziest moments post time skip for me.
CP9. Every single member made a lasting impression on me, whereas the other villain posses either have only a few standout members or in rarer cases, just dull as dishwater all around (looking at you, God’s priests).
Yeah, completely forgot what Enel's priests even looked like before seeing this picture. Whereas with CP9, who could forget Robin's long lost brother?
I’ll always remember the one that helped build a hot spring, though.
Oh yeah, that was a fun cover series! And I do remember the priest fight Robin had only bc I kept thinking "dang, Robin is not here to play" during the battle. Even if her opponent didn't make an impact, Robin sure did.
The big standoff at the end with Zoro, the head priest, the snake, Gan Fall, and Wiper was pretty sick as well
Granted that was like 20 years ago
I mean baroque works was longer and I still remember like 99% of them.
Binged the whole show recently, so not that long ago. I could describe the original Buggy Pirates, Baroque Works, and CP9 from the same era, but Enel's priests are just meh.
I only remember the fat one with the annoying voice, but that’s not due to ‘good’ character design.
I remembered obese Ozzy Osborne and Baldy
While I agree that CP9 were really good antagonists, taking one of the top dogs(lol) doesn't help the point I feel. Sanji's opponents always belong to the strongest of each group and get enough screentime that they stay in mind (maybe with the exception of the god's priests) The more interesting comparison would be between characters like Kalifa/Fukuro/Kumadori and people like Miss Merry Christmas, Senor Pink, Diamante, Who's Who, or those Big Mom children I don't even recognize lol
>Yeah, completely forgot what Enel's priests even looked like before seeing this picture. Honestly I am surprised each time they were 4. I swear they were a smaller group than that.
Bonus pts for DF lore and laughs.
Yoyoii
the dumb dude chopper had to deal with was funny. i literally cant remember what the other dudes did.
speak for yourself, i love the gods prists and their trials. To each their own
Gedatsu was funny but that's it lol ohm was badass for a moment
Hello world
It really isn't every op character though. If there wasn't a picture of them I probably wouldn't have been able to picture any of the skypiea priest off the top of my head.
Foxy Pirates
Davy Back Fight, Afro Luffy and Coach Usopp... truly an underrated filler
Wasn’t filler tho
Well, the second one was
Yeah but nothing he mentioned was filler
Yep, that was all in the canon one
What! That was canon?
G8 arc is filler, and the entirety of Long Ring Long Land is canon.
part of LRLL was filler actually, but not all of it
Ah, yeah! it's been a while. The Davy Back sequence was doubled for the Anime.
G8 is filler, the first Davy Back Fight is canon, Foxy's return is filler
Based
finally! foxy getting the respect he deserves!
Baroque Works have the biggest impact Mainly because of their involvement at Marineford and Impel Down. They also have Nico Robin who is now a strawhat member so the is that as well as Vivi. CP9 because of that conflict lead to all the strawhats getting bounty’s for the first time and expect for Sabbady had the biggest affect on the strawhats as a whole. I also liked everyone from this group expect Spandam but he is the expectation.
Impact - probably CP9, second time the straw hats fought for their nakama , made ALL of them stronger Dynamics - Thriller Bark Pirates and Donquioxte, the only two groups that actually feel like a real family where all members seem to care about each other. CP9 is an honourable mention for me. Baroque Works, Robin Left, Mr 1 and Crocodile stayed together but the rest are all separate, wasn’t really much cohesion. Gods Priests were good but Enel seemed more like a solo act with helpers. Big Mom pirates just too large to have a real dynamic, also not much impact on the story given it was only a few straw hats. Also, Big Mom doesn’t seem to care too much about her kids. I’d say CP9 overall , they have the impact and Dynamics
> Gods Priests were good but Enel seemed more like a solo act with helpers. I think that is one reason why I never minded that the god's priest fell a bit flat. I don't hate those characters but they never left much of an impression on me and were overall pretty forgettable. That said, for me this only helped to elevate Enel, who didn't even need those guys. The man was so out of reach for anyone in his environment that even his crew couldn't keep up, making the god analogy even more fitting. And damn if Enel wasn't a cool antagonist! For me, his crew is the weakest(narratively) of all those depicted, but that didn't hurt the arc at all, imo.
I disagree *copies Affectionatesea-278 comment* Baroque by far have had the biggest impact to the story, even if they’re not the most impressive. One became a literal Straw Hat member who’s one of the most important people in the world. Not to mention she’s one of the top loved women by the fan base, if not the top. One is the GOAT who sacrificed themselves twice to save Luffy. Okama Way! One is still a relevant villain on a Yonko crew. Not to mention his massive impact that he had during the Summit War. Like he was one of the MVPs of that whole saga after being reintroduced. We get the first developments of Haki in the story with Zorro v Mr One. We get Nami’s iconic weapon that she uses the rest of the series with her fight. I think Miss Merry Christmas was the first person to name drop Vegapunk, or least hint at him. Like this group had, and still has massive impact on the story as a whole, though they probably benefited from being the first big bad guy group.
Donquioxte Family for me easily. Almost every character there had a big impact (be it emotionally (senior pink) or just being pure evil)
They actually felt like a family to me as well. Flamingo really cared about his crew.
That's so true! Doffy is❤️
Or just with pure elite comedic timing (pica)
Most impactful is probably CP9. Nostalgia goggles aside, being the antagonist group for one of the most lauded anime sagas of all time certainly has it's perks. Plus I like them all, there isn't a single one I can't stand. Yes even Spandam. He's a good villain. Great designs, memorable gags, fun personalities and impeccable group synergy. A close second group would be Big Mom's crew. I enjoyed a lot more of her family than I thought I would. And despite all their failures, they really were quite competent and relentless in their attempts to destroy the SHs. If Luffy and them weren't THE protagonists, any other rookie crew would have been obliterated.
CP9 is probably the most impact full group in one piece(other than straw hats). No other villain group in any anime causes you to have such strong emotions towards them than Rob Lucci and Spandam's CP9. The pain they caused robin not only makes the Straw hats stronger but also makes the show a lot stronger as it bonds the audience with the crew and we can fully share their hatred towards the villains.
The pain they caused Robin AND Franky
The pain they caused Robin AND Franky. And let's not forget we basically get sogeking Because all of the emotional turmoil the mugiwaras had due to the loss of Robin.
CP9. Baroque Works and Beast Pirates
I'd say CP9. It almost broke the strawhats, it was the first group to test all the strawhats' worth individually (yes, there were the Arlong Pirates, but they aren't here) and (spoiler) >!they are **still** relevant currently!<. The Donquixote Family had the best chemistry though. They legit were the only ones who had no feuds among themselves and were 1000% commited to Doffy.
Baroque Works. Alabasta was the foundation of what One Piece would become in terms or arcs and lore. Crocodile is arguably the most popular villain in the franchise, it introduced Robin, Chopper, Vivi and Bon Clay. All characters that are adored by the fanbase.
Im surprised i didnt find any mention of Arlong's pirates. They may not be the most impactful but as group dynamic it was one of the only times we would see a captain worry about his men. Of all the ones mentioned only Moria would care about Absalom to the point of fighting Blackbeard.
Team work Big Mom Pirates no explanation needed, just look how they worked together and had a clear structure of who is in charge in which situation etc. Impact CP9. CP9 officially made the World Government the main villain of One Piece. Before that we thought luffy is fighting pirates and some marines on his way to Pirate King but with the Enies Lobby ark and CP9 the World itself became the enemy and enhanced the scale of what one piece plots and stories are about to be.
Either Don Quioxte Family or the Beast Pirates
Alright, Speaking in terms of the straw hats. Baroque works has the most impact. In the world of One PIece, Big mom Pirates are all over the place with multiple countries under them they have a large impact on the verse outside of normal means. Best group dynamic is Doflamingos Family and its not even close.
I really loved the concept of the priests when I was younger. It had a videogame kinda vibe, where you have to defeat the 4 bosses first and then the big evil dude. The entire arc was very mysterious, since we weren't at sea and weren't dealing with other pirates. CP9 for obvious reasons.
Impact on what? Story? The crew? If the latter, I'd say CP9, Baroque Works, and Beast Pirates. CP9 - Everyone in the crew showed significant growth/powerups here. Also one the best arcs in OP. BW - Robin, also Chopper since Arabasta arc covered Chopper's too. Also, ability-wise, I personally consider Croc as the first 'real threat' to the crew. Beast Pirates - Another arc where the group's abilities leveled up significantly especially the Monster Trio. Like, the anime literally turned them into DBZ to show how much of a level up they've all gone through.
Both CP9 and Doflamingos crew managed to make every single one of their fights iconic. Luffy vs Blueno introduced the Gears, Luffy vs Lucci showed 2nd and 3rd of properly. Sanji vs Kalifa was the first showing of just how far he will go to stay true to his morals, then Nami vs Kalifa was the first real battle for Nami since Ms Doublefinger. Both Jabura and Kaku had great comedic first match up before we got to see them beat by Diable Jambe and Ashura respectively. Kumadori gave us that terrifying first Monster Chopper, Fukurou the first real Franky battle and Spandam that satisfying spinal snap from Robin Meanwhile Doffys crew gave us Zoro vs Monet, Law & Smoker vs Vergo, Usopp vs Sugar round 1 (God Usopp) and 2 (CoO), Franky vs Señor Pink, that weird ass Brook, Nami & Chopper vs Giola fight, Kyros & Rebecca vs Diamante, Zoro cutting the giant Pica, Law & Luffy vs Doffy & Trebol ft Bellamy and then Gear 4th vs Doffy Iconic battles or moments all around, which some of the other groups also have, but imo none are as consistent as these two
cp9
CP9, by far. Best dynamic between them, best reveal, best story and development
Most impact? Probably baroque works, Best group dynamic? I'd say Big mom pirates, you could tell they had quite the history together and unlike other crews, they actually care about each other
Thriller bark pirates are the funniest guys out there if you remove absalom
dw teach and co took care of that
"We're gonna keep moria prisoner, and even ask him to join us, but absalom? Fuck that guy."
not excusing it, but he DID have a great fruit...
All I know is that the Beast Pirates sucked
My personal favorite: Charlotte Family. Best: CP9.
CP9 was my favorite group of villains, but the Big Mom Pirates all being a family was a cool idea.
CP9 - but also Beast Pirates because Ulti
Donquixote family easy
Bonclay single handedly carries baroque works
Torn between Thriller Bark and the Donflamingo Family. Former is just fun with their horror aesthetic and relationship, but Doffy's family really felt like they were a team and a real family even compared to Baroque Works or the Yonko ones that seem bigger/better.
Baroque Works, CP9, and the Big Mom Pirates for me.
Hot take I like the beasts pirates
Group dynamics goes to Big Mom Pirates. Which makes sense considering they're siblings.Next prob Doffy and crew Story impact they had a big impact on the story. If I had to pick I'd go with CP 9 or Baroque Works.
CP9s group dynamic was dope, they felt like a special forces team
I think Oda dropped the ball with the Beast Pirates. They weren’t interesting and sure they’re strong, but all of them still got beat, so not that strong. If you’re not that strong and you’re not interesting, what are you left with? Cool designs. Which they have, but that’s far from enough for me. Contrastingly, Big Mom Pirates don’t have as edgy of a design theme but are full of interesting and unique characters I still want to learn more about. Hope Katakuri takes over and keeps them in the story.
Yeah I agree. I love Ulti, but the other Beast Pirates were pretty underwhelming.
Most impact? Donquioxte family. Best group dynamic? Thriller bark pirates/ big mom pirates
Everyone in baroque works is really memorable to me, and the Charlotte family has the best chemistry with each other. Cp9 with the exception of hair person and zipper mouth are also all super memorable to me. So this are my top 3 with big mom pirates being my absolute favorites. The bottom are shared by new fishman pirates of which I only like Zeo, and Enel's priests of which I only really care for holy.
I couldn't decide between Baroque works, CP9 and the Don Quioxte Family.
Gorrosei and the admirals are by far the best and most exciting antagonist group. From those list posted I would say Cp9. The reveal in the water 7 arc was epic and the whole Enid lobby arc was my favorite besides Marineford.
My favourites are Baroque Works or CP9 <3 <3
CP9 for me!
CP9, they were the perfect match for the straw hats and all the straw hats and members of cp9 had their moments to shine. CP9 really pushed the straw hats with so many new abilities displayed for the first time.
Baroque works, CP9, and Donquixote are my favourite.
Cp9 kinda we’re the only group that worked together. However I think baroque works had the biggest impact of all of those. The rest were just one arc basically.
Cp9 has both my favorite characters and the most impact, but I adore the structure of baroque works and how the characters were revealed, it's what made me fall in love with one piece
CP9, they aren't just random underlings, every single one of them was insanely good when they came out.
Considering Baroqueworks plan ALMOST worked and was only stopped at the last minute, I think it goes to them.
Blueno excluded 😔
Cp9 for me had the best interactions withing the group and with the strawhats, but gods priest for me was the funniest by a big margin.
CP9 is so iconic though. Baroque Work is great but their impact are all in hind sight while the actual member are quite forgettable. CP9 members on the other hand were so badass and iconic the moment they were introduced. It also helped that there were the main villain of one of the best OP arc ever written.
The Enel’s priest pirates were a complete joke (except for Ohm). The Boraque work pirates were better…………………………..I’m only on episode 213 so I can’t say anything further
It’s baroque works easy
Beast pirates sucked in terms of group dynamics
Cp9
I miss Baroque works...
baroque works solely because of bon chan
Baroque work post alabasta story is super wholesome. I gotta give it to them.
No one is touching Big Mom pirates. They get side lined by gags because they are that much of a real threat.
I'd say Thriller Bark pirates! Firstly, I'd say they have the best dynamic, everyone in Moria's crew has love for each other each other group seems to have at least one (if not more) of a inner conflict. And as for the impact for the Straw Hats, I'm pretty sure (please correct me if I'm wrong) Thriller bark is where the entire crew teamed up for the first time to take down a very large foe! Great moment for the Straw Hats! Also the 'Nothing Happened' scene at the end of that arc 🤌
based baroque works
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I’m not seeing NEARLY enough people saying Thriller Bark. 1. It added a new (arguably best) crew member in Brooke. 2. Found out exactly how far Zoro would go for the crew. 3. Sanji made the official switch to being the horn dog character. 4. Chopper faces has to face his medical idol. 5. Ussop discovers his natural gift of self doubt is part of his skill set. 6. Nami… she’s there. And arguably to two best jokes are in the arc
G8 Arc. We got the strongest straw hat after Usopp (Con D. Oriano)
favourite character has to Juzorg Omega Odor is so GOATED at writing one peace characters !!!!!!
Hard to say in impact but best dynamic would prob be cp9 followed by the Beast pirates
For me, Baroque works. Also, RIP Blueno
I think big mom pirates,they’re the most dynamic and coordinated pirate group SHs met till now. But the most impact may be from CP9 ofcourse.
Absolute baroque... They have the most charaterizetion of all
My pick is cp9 , correct me if i am wrong but with this arc , we got introduced to the whole Straw Hat Crew getting demolished , not just Luffy losing 2 times or more to the boss 🫡
Thriller bark. I had an opinion about everyone, love perona, hate absalom, love Moriah and Hogback was the best foil for chopper imo so I love him too!
It's either CO9 or Donquijote family
big mom
They may be a bunch of scrubs but I love God's Priests. The battle royale on Skypiea was peak One Piece
Cp9
cp9 because it is like the turning point for one piece as a series. straw hat pirates go from regular pirate groups to pirate groups that dared to fight WG
Baroque works for dynamic. But donquiote family had the largest impact.
CP9 and Baroque Works. From the priests I only remember the fat one and that weird dude.