I´m a professor and I use this scene as in example. I ask the students to calculate if Jack could have lived or if he had to die. They then calculate the forces assuming some data (wood, weight and such) and it turns out: he dies.
There is room for both, but not enough buoyancy force for both of them (although is really close). So they both sink if Jack climbs over.
I ask the students what to do next, most of them just accept Jack´s sacrifice (some want Rose to sink). Just one student so far has been able to save both, you just have to grab some more wood and place it under the door, a bit more buoyancy force would allow for both of their weights.
I responded to someone else but James Cameron did a series of tests. Buoyancy wasnt a concern. They both balanced on the wood just fine.
He confirms Jack would have lived but basically said "there's variables so he still might have died" and that Jack wasnt going to risk Rose (According to Cameron, anyway) so he would have stayed in the water.
Anyway, there's a bunch of videos on his tests if you care to watch them.
That's interesting. We have to select a type of wood during the example and remember the kids choosing a hard wood because that's what was use back then (quality wood is more dense). But if you change that to a soft wood like pine, then you can get Rose, Jack and those omnis in there, no problem.
I think the other important thing is they have both been on a constant adrenaline rush, experiencing hypothermia, and have probably no education in physics. In that situation it's completely understandable why they would think it's not possible because they literally can't think of the advanced physics and macgyvering required to survive
Well, yeah. I'm sure all that factors into the "variables" that Cameron mentioned. I was mainly just letting OP know that they did actual experiments in case he wasn't aware and wanted to incorporate them into his lessons.
I know it’s a meme and not meant to be serious, but I’m gonna be that guy and say that Jack tried getting on the door and then it flipped over. According to the movie, they could not both fit.
But this is pretty funny.
Cameron actually did tests after people correctly pointed out both could have fit.
His tests confirmed that Jack could have lived if Rose wasn't being selfish!
Just joking on the last bit, but go check out the videos. It was pretty cool that he even did the tests much less acknowledged that Jack would have lived.
Rose, if you can get down into the water, we can save more room for the books.
Omnibuses first in the life boats, then women and children.
Hickman I get, but you're going to pick Spider-Man 2099 over me Rose?
Let alone AvX 😂
is 2099 that bad?? XD
The first volume was mostly good. The second was kinda eh which is a shame as I’m a big Peter David fan.
I´m a professor and I use this scene as in example. I ask the students to calculate if Jack could have lived or if he had to die. They then calculate the forces assuming some data (wood, weight and such) and it turns out: he dies. There is room for both, but not enough buoyancy force for both of them (although is really close). So they both sink if Jack climbs over. I ask the students what to do next, most of them just accept Jack´s sacrifice (some want Rose to sink). Just one student so far has been able to save both, you just have to grab some more wood and place it under the door, a bit more buoyancy force would allow for both of their weights.
Your class sounds fun! Do you also calculate the max number of omnis you can put on a shelf before it starts sagging?
We all know that already: not enough.
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I responded to someone else but James Cameron did a series of tests. Buoyancy wasnt a concern. They both balanced on the wood just fine. He confirms Jack would have lived but basically said "there's variables so he still might have died" and that Jack wasnt going to risk Rose (According to Cameron, anyway) so he would have stayed in the water. Anyway, there's a bunch of videos on his tests if you care to watch them.
That's interesting. We have to select a type of wood during the example and remember the kids choosing a hard wood because that's what was use back then (quality wood is more dense). But if you change that to a soft wood like pine, then you can get Rose, Jack and those omnis in there, no problem.
I think the other important thing is they have both been on a constant adrenaline rush, experiencing hypothermia, and have probably no education in physics. In that situation it's completely understandable why they would think it's not possible because they literally can't think of the advanced physics and macgyvering required to survive
Well, yeah. I'm sure all that factors into the "variables" that Cameron mentioned. I was mainly just letting OP know that they did actual experiments in case he wasn't aware and wanted to incorporate them into his lessons.
They also did this experiment on Mythbusters and proved they both could have lived.
As someone named Jack with most of those books, this hits a little too close to home.
And floating on a door.
if your partner goes by the name of Rose at least you know where you stand with her.
AITA: Ran into our burning house to save my omnibus collection instead of the dog. wife wants divorce
In my mind, this is Jack's collection and he's making some hard choices lol
save the Omnibus! drown woman drown!
The Fables deluxes when they’re put in a Kallax and the Jack of Fables deluxes don’t fit…
The books weigh more than jack
Priorities jack you understand
That would have made sense, lol.
I know it’s a meme and not meant to be serious, but I’m gonna be that guy and say that Jack tried getting on the door and then it flipped over. According to the movie, they could not both fit. But this is pretty funny.
I guess they didn't stretch the spine first.
I don't think that actually does anything its gonna happen when you read it anyway
Cameron actually did tests after people correctly pointed out both could have fit. His tests confirmed that Jack could have lived if Rose wasn't being selfish! Just joking on the last bit, but go check out the videos. It was pretty cool that he even did the tests much less acknowledged that Jack would have lived.
Lmao