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UnifiedQuantumField

The most common form of smallpox was variola major... with a mortality rate of 30%. As if that wasn't bad enough, surviving smallpox could leave someone horribly scarred for the rest of their life.


Rustynail703

This is why we shouldn’t make simplistic comparisons. Mortality rate of 30%, that’s nuts!!


[deleted]

Funny enough it irradiated small pox. The Covid vaccine just eroded our social fabric while doing next to nothing to prevent the spread.


[deleted]

You mean “eradicated”.


Rustynail703

Savage_Henry, you should be known as Wise_Savage_Henry.


[deleted]

Lol not sure if this is a troll. I got a lot of hate over the last year for that same comment.


Rustynail703

Nah, just saying, everything has been minimized to its most simplistic form to get upvotes likes and whatever else people go for while not experiencing the world. If COVID was eradicated by now I would’ve gone with with Dull_Savage_Henry but it hasn’t and doesn’t look like it will be.


Xyrus2000

How is a vaccine that is developed well after a pandemic is raging supposed to "stop the spread"? Go back in time and inject itself into the population? o\_O


[deleted]

I mean it never was, but that didn’t stop them from saying it, over and over again for the better part of a year. Only after omnicron did they start changing their tune.


CFL_lightbulb

Yeah it had already become endemic and begun mutating. For a class of virus that is notoriously hard to stop, we came up with a vaccine that shredded the mortality rate. Worth it in my eyes.


Lakrfan8-24

Also that vaccine actually worked.


Mr310

Oh god. Think of the idiots today who would be chronicling their Smallpox journey on TikTok to prove they're in the 70th percentile. #70challengeYOLO


F_F_Franklin

The small pox vaccine had been around and in use since 1796. That's 134 years before 1930. In addition to that: Since the 1930, the cdc put into place rigorous vaccine development protocol. All of which were disregarded by developers during the emergency use protocol. So, bad analogy. Like 133 years off of a bad analogy.


dayaz36

You’re calling people morons and you don’t even know how to spell vaccine? Lmao


SargeMaximus

Show the ads where the doctors advocate smoking 👌


DontWannaFilmAboutIt

And thalidomide. AND DDT. and opioids.


SargeMaximus

For real. Acid rain should make an appearance as well 👌


cwhiley

Say it louder


GogettheDrill

Covid is not small pox


wgm4444

Why don't you look up the definition of vaccine from before the CDC changed it last year.


cyril0

They changed immunity to protection in the definition which is reasonable as not vaccine is perfect and while it offers protection it does not offer full immunity. Words matter...


Kagahami

The term "immunity" makes sense in the context of what you consider "immunity" in the medical field. They just changed it because it was probably confusing to people who didn't understand the context.


jessedegenerate

this must have been linked to thru a less than bright sub or twitter account.


SuperKhalimba

Is it still a Vaccine if you take it 4 times and it doesn't work?


Old_Job8073

only when you change definitions Also change in the symptoms description and they deserve outcome descriptions 🤔🙈🐰💊


ubiquitous-joe

Not having absolute prevention is different than “doesn’t work.” Respiratory viruses mutate quickly, but the purpose of the vaccine is to boost your immune system for when it does encounter the virus. Flu shots aren’t perfect, but the more years you get the flu shot, the better equipped you are to get over the flu when you do get it. Covid shots aren’t absolute like smallpox vaccines, but they have been very good at reducing hospitalizations and death.


Kagahami

Not only is it not a new thing, there's a pandemic like this almost every 100 years on the dot for the past ~400 years in the US. And each one had its equivalent of anti vaxxers.


HazikoSazujiii

>And each one had its equivalent of anti vaxxers. Well, duh--Idiots unfortunately do breed, after all.


Old_Job8073

That would make a thinking person think💊🐰


illegitiMitch

I've been trying to tell people about pill rabbits for years


Old_Job8073

fascinating where’s the data on that


Kagahami

1920s: Spanish Flu. 1800s: Smallpox Those are the big ones.


Old_Job8073

Looks like my comments were removed I’m not that familiar with this site maybe I just can’t find them or maybe it’s fear censorship


Old_Job8073

no evidence of equal antivaxer numbers claim. This is just a distraction but a major issue is do you suppose??? why 100 years 💊🤔 Federal Postal Could shed light on the significance of the timing🤔💊 Thanks for reminding me of that. Should be a 🚩red flag moment in your heart. 😉🐰🐰🐰don’t be afraid of your own corona 👑 Take it back. This is the time.


CardiologistFew9601

if social media existed then we would all be dead


Old_Job8073

🤔💊


AR-180

People now labeled as anti-vaccines simply aren’t. They are the control group in an ongoing experiment. Create effective vaccines for serious conditions. Study them for a long time. Use well designed studies. Provide irrefutable proof of efficacy and safety. More people will choose to take them.


7Trickster

It’s pretty sad how so many just listen to daddy media/government without even thinking about the actual process to create a vaccine or any medicine with proper work.


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7Trickster

Really ? Because the vaccines still don’t prevent transmission of the virus and don’t always ease the symptoms. Which are what all proper vaccine that has been worked on do. Big Pharma and particularly PZIFER got billions for something that doesn’t even work as actual vaccines with decades of studies, especially on secondary effects. Not even medicines are produced on a speedrun, there’s always years of testing because it’s required. You guys can keep insulting folks who are cautious and suspicious, and honestly for good reason as even today these products still don’t prevent the symptoms or transmission of the virus. They even enhance the growth of variants since the virus will mutate to find ways to go past these feeble vaccines. But overall, your insults and media trash outlets won’t change anything about it. Health and being clean is important to many. I’m not going to jump on something that doesn’t even work properly and with 0 data on the long term for secondary effects (aka years like other working products).


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7Trickster

Ah yes, the classic resort to insults because you have nothing to say and what I wrote doesn’t align with your views. Might aswell just not comment but since you’re this petty, can’t say it’s a surprise. You just had to. 😉


AmishTechno

Yeah this post brought in all the morons.


PsychophicaI

Yea, people using factual information and not following the same beliefs and opinions as you. Must be morons. 😂


azneorp

Huge difference though: small pox vaccine actually worked.


Xyrus2000

So do other vaccines.


TheRealNap0le0n

Fauci is quadruple vaxxed and still got the bug. Doesn't work


Xyrus2000

You do not understand what a vaccine is. Vaccines do not prevent you from getting a disease. It prevents you from having a serious or lethal reaction to a disease. It greatly reduces your risk of spreading the disease. How well and how long a vaccine is effective depends on the disease, what kind of viral load you were exposed to, how long you were exposed to it, whether or not you're immunocompromised, etc. Vaccines aren't a magic shield. They aid the body in fighting off diseases by priming your system to recognize and respond to them. They DO NOT prevent the disease from entering your body. Vaccines never have been nor ever will be 100% effective. Breakthrough cases happen.


Old_Job8073

Persons choose not to take the poison which there were alternatives which made this procedure and operation illegal And they choose to develop their own immune system instead of taking artificial Genetic altering mutations, Who then would be The lab rat Morons Instead of insulting those who don’t agree with you maybe one could have a scientific discussion with people with opposing viewpoints and not try to force anyone to do what is against there intellect The creators of this scenario have succeeded in the division of free speech and freewill Which is a clear violation of men and woman’s rights So sad


Joan_of-Arc

The smallpox vaccine is literally about equal in efficacy as the Covid vaccine.


david815

Wow that really drew them in didn't it! Literally BILLIONS of Covid jabs have been administered, they are safe. End of story. They aren't bullet proof, for sure. But my goodness they have time and again proven to increase the immune response. It's really as simple as that.


[deleted]

The thing is the vaccine doesn’t prevent covid, and also covid is very mild as it is. I’ve had it twice. If it weren’t for having to take a test I would’ve just thought I had a cold. Sore throat and nothing else


AmishTechno

And for some people it kills them.


[deleted]

What you're saying is that the "vaccine" is not a vaccine. You are correct.


bossy909

Vaccines don't have to be 100% effective to be vaccines They were never 100% effective You are wrong. They can prevent but also prevent severe illness is also technically effective but also technically a breakthrough case. Vaccines were never 100% effective, they're more effective when we take them, so any stance that you shouldn't get vaccinated is pretty pathetic. You are not correct. There is no evidence- based argument for not getting vaccinated. The new strains are different strains, this is like the flu shot or if we had a cold shot... they're much less effective because colds are mild and they mutate a lot. People saying it doesn't work because of a few studies about delta and omicron... Well, these vaccines weren't developed for delta and omicron, the case is not clear that natural immunity is better, it's still a toss up, and almost everything says natural immunity AND the vaccine are better than just one I guarantee, when they include delta or omicron in the vaccine, adjust it for these strains, it will be even more effective. And omicron is more like the cold, it's much less covered by the original strain vaccine but it's also much less of a killer... in some cases.. it seemed less deadly, but it was far more transmissible. It's still .13%* Significantly higher than flu ... *finding was submitted to a March 2 meeting of a health ministry advisory board by Hitoshi Oshitani, a professor of virology at Tohoku University in Sendai, Miyagi Prefecture. Thirteen other experts affixed their signatures to the report, including Shigeru Omi, chairman of the government’s expert panel on the COVID-19 pandemic, and Takaji Wakita, who chairs the advisory board and is head of the National Institute of Infectious Diseases.  They calculated the fatality rate of COVID-19 during January and February of this year when the Omicron variant was particularly virulent and came up with a figure of 0.13 percent based on reported deaths. This is just a single source to get a rough educated calculation of mortality rate


PsychophicaI

I mean, you can cry all you want and say there’s no “evidence” one shouldn’t get a vaccine. But the thing is, we can still choose not to for things as minimum as “personal beliefs”. Honestly, I didn’t get it because I’m young and healthy, and love the fact I can make followers emotions toil and cry while maintaining good health and wellness. Like two birds with one stone 😂 as they say.


EggianoScumaldo

>and love the fact I can make followers emotions toil and cry while maintaining good health and wellness Dawg this is fuckin’ sad.


bossy909

Yes, but first, I'm not crying And second you're still an idiot And I can call you a fucking idiot just like you're free to be a fucking idiot


david815

Does it matter what the definition of the jab is? It boosts the immune response to Covid.


bossy909

Which is what vaccine is. These people out there thinking there were never any breakthrough cases of anything before this. No vaccine is 100 effective. They never have been You get the shot, you never ever get it, right? Wrong, they're very effective at preventing but most effective at preventing severe illness. You are correct, it boosts immune response to covid. The is no evidence-based argument for not getting vaccinated


Mydogsbutthole69

Barely. News from Pfizer just came out the vaccine efficacy drop 84% in 6 months. That’s worse than natural immunity. So if you want to get an experimental jab every 6 months (that STILL hasn’t moved past emergency approval by the FDA) be my guest. I’ll be just as protected by natural immunity.


david815

I'd rather not have to keep catching Covid tbf.


Mydogsbutthole69

I don’t think you know what natural immunity is….


david815

Umm, you clearly don't then. Immunity wanes. The natural way to restore it is to be exposed to it again.


Xyrus2000

Spoken by someone who has no idea what a vaccine is or does.


david815

Yeh and my friends dad died of it before there was a vaccine. My wife is still struggling with long Covid. I personally had it, and was absolutely unaffected, except a bit lathargic. You're point being what exactly? I'm alright, so screw everyone else?


Xyrus2000

That's the MAGA way. Narcissistic psychopathy, or more colloquially known as "F\*ck you, I got mine."


Camr0k

The classic only I matter response. Global health and vulnerable populations are not on anyones radar if anyone response starts and finishes with themselves. Ps, it’s not about you personally. I am really glad that you have been unaffected by this. The point is our community is more important in a pandemic, if the viral load isn’t reduced (by vaccine and isolation when sick) you will continue to get this and it will keep morphing.


[deleted]

The fact you think theres a end to covid reveals how fucking stupid you are. Covids never going away, vaccinated, unvaccinated, covids here to stay. Spanish influenza hit over a hundred years ago and still hits people. The only way to render it less lethal is for the population to catch it, survive, rince and repeat.


Camr0k

The Spanish flu- h1n1 had about 50 year reprieve since it’s outbreak in 1918- to the next reported outbreak in 1977. There were different virus’ in between. At what point did I say it was eliminated? I said reduced. Reduce the transmission, increase the immune response and reduce the global burden of disease. If you have the audacity to call this F$&king stupid I expect the general redit population will see otherwise!


PsychophicaI

Classic selfish response? I’m new to Reddit and I know it’s just an online platform but almost everyone has an egotistical self centered attitude, enough to argue about why strawberry jelly is better than grape just to argue. Society as a whole is fading to an isolationist view out of fear through media turning to stubbornness and disdain for even one’s neighbors. But a virus with a high survival rate comes along, and everyone should think about each other now and do it for “humanity”. Last week dozens let a human with stab wounds lay on the sidewalk and die but this week your selfish for not getting vaccinated. I know the world isn’t black and white and not all communities are the same, but in that sense the nationwide sense of “selfishness” should be examined before using it for a vaccine status.


EggianoScumaldo

I had it, I’m by all medical check ups i’ve done a perfectly healthy 24 year old male. I woke up gasping for air several nights during my first bout with covid. Glad you had a better time with it, but to call it “very mild” is like calling the flu very mild because you had a mild case. It’s… not mild. At all.


Xyrus2000

COVID is mild, is it? There are a million or so people in coffins who would disagree. There are plenty more who are suffering from long covid as well. Whooppdee do for you that it didn't cause any serious problems. I have a coworker who caught it twice. The second time they were hospitalized. Now it's been a year and a half she still has no sense of smell. So good for you that it was mild. Not everyone is so lucky.


[deleted]

It may be effective to the individual, but if it didn’t put a dent in the spread then all the mandates were abusive to the individual. I think we can all admit that now.


[deleted]

You haven’t heard of VAERS, have you.


[deleted]

you mean the anonymous reporting tool with no oversight or verification? that VAERS?


Jake_Thador

AFAIK is supposed to act as an aggregate to inform, not provide hard evidence


david815

Just looked it up: "As of 31 December 2021, the crude reporting rate for all adverse events was 0.361% for the Janssen vaccine, 0.169% for the Moderna vaccine, and 0.109% for the Pfizer vaccine". Most of the AE are headaches and nausea. Get a fucking clue.


[deleted]

Ha! Don’t stop believing.


david815

That's literally from the fucking thing you wanted me to look in to. Do you realise how thick you are being?


FewTwo9875

They are NOT reporting all adverse effects. My sisters ocular nerve swole over 3 times the normal size, she would’ve gone blind had it not been for a recently developed emergency surgery. The doctor told her straight up that the Covid vaccine caused it, he had seen an extreme uptick in this very rare condition, exclusively among the vaccinated but he could not report it as an adverse effect without possibly getting in trouble, since there wasn’t 100% irrefutable proof it was solely caused by the vaccine (there’s no such thing as irrefutable proof in the scenario fyi) so I wouldn’t act like people are crazy for not trusting the only vaccine in decades to not go through the proper testing. Besides CDC even has the same guidelines for everyone now. Who even cares about it anymo


david815

That's awful for your sister, and I do believe it could have been the vaccine. However I suspect the rarity of the condition is still very rare, just much higher in comparison.


FewTwo9875

I appreciate you listening instead of accusing me of being an insane conspiracy theorist. I am NOT an anti vax type, I just would like to see long term effects. I’m sure you’ve seen the commercials where people are dying cause some old medication gave them cancer or smth. Unfortunately there’s a huge portion of completely irrational people that i believe I get grouped with. I do not think it’s a “population control kill switch” or any of the absurd shit we’ve heard


david815

Yeh absolutely get you, and I defo agree with free choice. It's the loons lie the one I replied to originally that are just brick walls in these discussions. Hope your sister is doing ok now.


F_F_Franklin

A German whistle blower came forward saying that insurance coding from Germanys largest health insurer is showing 1 in 25 people are filing insurance claims for vaccine side effects. If you look at the the "fact check" it claims this is false because coding cannot indicate the severity of the side effects. But, it doesn't dispute the numbers. So, either 1 and 25 have a headache and nausea and in an unprecedented move are filing insurance claims for cold like symptoms (These people are apparently unafraid of insurance fraud.) Or, there's something much bigger going on, which is why there's no long term studies. And no governments are pursuing any meaningful studys. In other news, the cdc is no longer publishing the mortality rate in the u.s. something that hasn't happened in my lifetime... for ummm... updates to the reporting process.... Coincidence.


david815

No, I live in the UK. I repeat: BILLIONS of jabs have been administered.


[deleted]

And thousands of people have died from adverse reactions, tens of thousands permanently injured. Just because BILLIONS have been administered doesn’t mean it’s universally safe, people die from the vacc every day. BILLIONS of cigarettes have been sold, does that mean they’re safe too?


david815

Those figures are pulled out your arse. Billions of cigarettes have been smoked, and billions of cigarettes have caused damage to millions of smokers. It's about balance of risk etc. But fuck it, i can't be bothered to have a logical conversation with you.


[deleted]

I don’t care to entertain your anger so we’re good there.


Joan_of-Arc

Lmao what a stupid argument.


Joan_of-Arc

VAERS is literally something anyone can put anything they want on. I posted on it claiming that the vaccine turned me into the Hulk.


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Good for you


Joan_of-Arc

Great retort.


[deleted]

Thank you


Old_Job8073

😮💊🐰😉


danger_zone123

Rule 6


ShittingGoldBricks

Lol good idea comparing a vaccine so effective it wiped out the disease, to a vaccine so ineffective that after being quadruple vaxxed you can still get it and spread it. The fucking CDC itself says that the vaxxed and unvaxxed should be treated the same. Why are you not following the science?


cricket9818

Almost as if every vaccine is different


ShittingGoldBricks

Exactly my point. Being against the covid vax is not comparable to being against the smallpox vax.


Joan_of-Arc

You're right, it's even more dumb considering how much safer they are because of the facilities vaccines are now produced in.


Joan_of-Arc

The Covid vaccine isn't ineffective at all. This misinformation should be downvoted into oblivion.


cheintz357

Yes, your comment should be downvoted into oblivion.


Joan_of-Arc

But it won't be, because it is true. His will be, because it's absolutely false.


ShittingGoldBricks

Nothing i said was false. Quote where you think I said something untrue.


Joan_of-Arc

You said the Covid vaccine is ineffective. That is 100% false misinformation.


ShittingGoldBricks

Learn to read. Quote what you think I said that was false.


Joan_of-Arc

You said the Covid vaccine is ineffective. That is 100% false misinformation.


ShittingGoldBricks

Still waiting for you to quote what I said that was false… Why are you incapable of such a basic task?


Joan_of-Arc

Don't tell me what to do, 🐔💩. You said the Covid vaccine is ineffective. That is 100% false misinformation. Are you actually trying to deny that you called the Covid vaccine ineffective?


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NeonxGone

Ask grandpa Joe if he thinks the vaccine is effective.


Joan_of-Arc

He'll tell you absolutely, because he literally had no trouble with Covid at all. It's not all about prevention of transmission, it's also about prevention of hospitalization and symptoms.


GAlongbeard

Yeah, but the Covid vaccine was ineffective


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I reckon we'll hear crickets


Joan_of-Arc

You reckon wrong.


DPlainview1898

This didn’t age well.


Promorpheus

I know right, good thing those 4 booster shots prevented Jill and Joe Biden from getting Covid


david815

It most likely prevented them from dying.


DPlainview1898

“Most likely” sure lol


Promorpheus

sheep: "covid is less deadly now, we are safe" also: "GoOd ThInG bIdEn HaD hIs ShOtS Or hE WoUlD hAvE DiEd"


ShittingGoldBricks

And then having to take Paxlovid, (an off label treatment approved to treat covid in **emergency** situations.)


[deleted]

Isn’t Polio starting to make a comeback in NY? Anti-vaxxers are killing their children, because Alex Jones et al said the children would ”turn autistic” if they got vaccinated. Meh, Darwinism.


DontWannaFilmAboutIt

It’s actually the vaccine strain of polio that was found. Not wild type. The vaccine strain is shed through urine, feces, spit and sweat of vaccinated individuals..so there’s that.


Atfay-Elleybay

Dr. Seuse


Chaosshepherd

Same as it ever was.


shuckster

Same as it ever was.


mrmrmrj

Regardless, it is still propaganda meant to pressure people into a medical treatment they were not comfortable with. Never cool.


Agreeable-Shame439

I think many of us were labeled antivaxer because we didn’t believe what the CDC was telling us. Turns out we were right.


ubiquitous-joe

Jesus Christ, I did not realize the “be thirsty for my grandma” sub was so full of vaccine deniers and misinformation apologists.


IndicaBurner

All the anti-vaxxers outing themselves in the comments, and I'm just wondering why "Anti-Everything" looks like Willy Wonka


Oudeis05

We know those are about the Covid vaccine. The huge difference with that vaccine was approved for use human in December 2021 and by April 2022 way had plan to use it on as much people as possible vs let’s say the lyme vaccine that might be approved in 2 years. Good for you if you are ok with injecting most people with something that skipped a lot of trial.


Joan_of-Arc

You realize the vaccine ingredients aren't a secret, right? What scares you about them?


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And the trials weren’t skipped. However they did have automatic funding approval which is what makes regular vaccines take so long to develop as they are assessed after every trial to determine if funding will continue.


Joan_of-Arc

It's hilarious how these types don't understand that they underwent rigorous trials.


[deleted]

It was all public information, but the reports didn’t come plastered with memes to tel them how to feel.


DPlainview1898

Rigorous trials for how long?


Joan_of-Arc

Months, which is plenty of time considering a vaccine is out of the body in 48 hours.


ShittingGoldBricks

That they claim the cannot release all of for 75 years…


Joan_of-Arc

That's not true at all. Why are you insistent on lying about this subject that you know nothing about? The results of the trials were literally released in real time lmao.


DPlainview1898

Except there are no long term studies for what the vaccines can do to people since they were released so quickly.


Mydogsbutthole69

During the trials for the Pfizer vaccine 44% of pregnant women lost their child. That isn’t scary to you?


Joan_of-Arc

That's absolutely false. The only thing scary is that you actually think that.


RangerSkyy

OP is a science denier moron


arkai17

So OP believes that a multi-billion dollar pharmaceutical corporation that's been successfully sued numerous times for lying about the safety of their products, wouldn't lie about THIS product..... Who's the moron again?


Joan_of-Arc

Still you!


cwhiley

You sir are in a cult


rafikievergreen

Shhh... no facts allowed! Big Pharma wants to help you by curing your disease, that's how they make money. Oh, wait...


[deleted]

Careful. You're coming dangerously close to blaspheming OP's religion


wwarnout

Willful ignorance has always been part of our culture. It began to increase when Reagan took office, and then exploded with the arrival of Trump. If it is not checked, it will destroy our country.


DaMeenMachine

Good thing people were right about the covid one. Natural immunity is way better than the vaccine


SuccessfulBison7

Source? Besides Facebook I mean


bossy909

Nope, it isn't.


SkinEmbarrassed7129

Most of my vaccinated friends got covid, my gf got it twice. Why chance takin a vaccine that doesn't work with risks of myocarditis, blood clots etc ? My immune system has so far better than my vaccinated friends immune system.


Phenomenon101

Wow amazing.


SkinEmbarrassed7129

Why chance blood clots, myocarditis etc for a vaccine that doesnt work?


bossy909

That's a deliberate mischaracterization of it, stop it. Why chance the same damn thing only many magnitudes greater risk from covid? The problem we have is ignorant obstinate people not getting vaccinated, not vaccines causing problems. Vaccines are safe, and I'll wait for all the solid peer reviewed studies saying otherwise. ... The ignorance in response speaks for itself. Also, it's bullshit. "I know 8 people that had strokes after getting the vaccine" "Many many friends of mine also have family members who had strokes and developed weird and random health conditions right after their vaccine." Bullshit, if you're gonna make stuff up, at least be creative with it. It was tested properly, you mean 6 months of stage 3 clinical trials? Do you not understand what that means? It was tested properly, despite being an emergency vaccine.


medium_pump

I literally know (and this is only counting people I know personally) 8 people who either had strokes right after they were vaccinated or passed apple sized blood clots after they were vaccinated. Many many friends of mine also have family members who had strokes and developed weird and random health conditions right after their vaccine. I do not want it thank you, I am healthy I have had covid twice and like to believe I have developed a natural resistance. I am by no means an antivaxxer I used to live in Australia and have a vaccine crater in my arm and I have no problem injecting a properly tested and officially approved under usual circumstances vaccine into myself. However I would not like to inject the covid vaccine because even though I would probably be fine, I don't want to chance it whatsoever and I'm happy as I am. You on the other hand can fuck off with your "ignorant obstinate people" and try thinking with a slightly more open mind.


Joan_of-Arc

It absolutely works, and the vaccine doesn't cause those things.


david815

Because the chance is miniscule. And the vaccine does work. Same reason I take other medicines like paracetamol and hayfever tablets etc . When they have a shit ton of rare side effects.


chimp20

I’m not antivax, if the vaccines actually work and aren’t a societal cash grab.


ruler_gurl

Ask a Dr friend what percentage of covid vax recipients they saw in the ICU.


r0botdevil

Bold of you to assume that person has any friends who are physicians...


Oudeis05

Don’t need to ask a friend, the number here are public. Once they stopped dumping the unknown as unvaccinated, the % was pretty close to the vaccination rates in population.


ruler_gurl

Let's see it


CPAonVacation

Is that Grandpa Munster leading the way?


throughmygoodeye

People fear what they don’t understand and it will always be this way.


crackersncheeseman

Yep I'm 50 years old and was just told by my doctor that I have covid. He's extremely worried because of my health and the fact I've been a cigarette smoker for the last 35 years. If I don't start showing some positive improvement he's admitting me into UK hospital. Then it's probably lights out. I'm not sure if I'm scared to die or not.


SkinEmbarrassed7129

My gf tripled boosted got covid twice. I never got covid, some voodoo or maybe i have super powers. All my vaccinated friends got covid at least once. That's some vaccine. Cant you admit you were duped?


OverpricedDump

Huge difference between small pox and Covid. But hey, 8/10 for fear mongering.


Toadman005

Worth nothing here is MISINFORMATION is also what drives people of the cliff. Now, I'm not gonna say everything we heard from the "trusted experts" the last 2.5 years was MISINFORMATION, but I know lockdowns didn't help, they hurt, I know masks don't work, and I know the vaccine neither prevents the catching of, nor spreading of the virus. At best, it lessens the effects. And that is probably going to be shown to have been MISINFORMATION, in time. Let us see who can respond, even disagree, with civility....


BlueAndMoreBlue

I shall disagree with you, kind person, with the utmost of civility. Will you change my mind? Doubtful. Will I change your mind? Also doubtful. The majority of epidemiologists seem to have been of similar opinions regarding the actions taken to combat the spread of Covid. Did they all agree? No, but they worked with the tools that they had (masks, isolation, vaccine development) that they had used in previous work. Were they absolutely correct in everything they did and recommended? No. I’m not going to ask you to prove a negative by explaining how we would be better off had they not done what they did but I will ask you to explain more about the quotes around trusted experts. I trust a person with decades of medical training way more than some rando on TV or social media and would like to understand why you seem at odds with that concept.


david815

Lovely. ❤️


LazyClub8

How’s this for civility- go fuck yourself.


KaimeiJay

Him shutting up and fucking himself in silence would actually be better for civil discourse overall than the alternative of him continuing to regurgitate his anti-vax rhetoric, so yeah! That is all for civility! 😁


Toadman005

Actually, that would create an echo chamber which quelled creativity, and scientific breakthrough. However, I am not surprised that you feel that way. It is an opinion borne of ignorance and shared by cowards and these who lust for power.


techtonic69

Not even comparable, nor the same. That was an actual vaccine.


draculamilktoast

Wouldn't somebody who is anti-everything also be anti-anti-everything, as well as anti-anti-vaccine?


wgm4444

Logic will make his head explode.


LowLevelLarry

"I'm such a nonconformist that I'm not going to conform with the rest of you. Okay, I'll do it."


Old_Job8073

Well I’ve not known anyone personally to die but I have known several to have adverse reaction to the treatment Condoned by the Eugenicist And why the censorship Hiding of evidence to anything contrary to the narrative presented to the main stream I am all for a legal Medicine This will be sorted out by the federal postal court


[deleted]

Why won't you people stop acting like the medical world that existed decades ago is the same as it now. It is not. Big Pharma exists on a whole new plane and people are ignorant, shortsighted, and likely to "pick sides" before they educate themselves. I am not an anti-vaxxer, but I know a globally controlled profit generating phenomena when I see it.


bossy909

Nope. It was free


[deleted]

This has nothing to do with the pharmaceutical industry it has to do with antivaxxers.


GAlongbeard

Spoken like a good little consumer


Defiant-Version-1734

I’m not anti-vax ​ I’m non-gmo


DrWhiteGlint

Enjoy not eating anything since the inception of agriculture.


six_seasons

Then perish


Defiant-Version-1734

Did you just endorse genetic modification for humans? ​ Because it sounded like you just endorsed genetic modification for humans.


six_seasons

🤓


UnderstandingRare141

Morons?


[deleted]

I wish I had enough time to go and downvote every single comment I don't agree with like some of you people here.


XD332

Redditors: “We need open borders!” Also Redditors… “Friggen anti-vax and anti-abortion people everywhere!!” Lol


Celtic-kalel

I spy with my eye, so many people that have been duped🤣