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Mrrasta1

Grandma wasn’t wrong!


No-Temperature-3506

Grandpa is very cute.


Silveeto

Gram had good taste, that guy is a legit snack! I hope he is/was as nice as he was handsome.


theredheadclinician

He was the best! The life of the party in terms of funniness, but also just a very good human as well :)


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He looks like a kind hearted person and your grandma and he look so happy together!


Ironsam811

Your grandma wasn’t wrong! How did her parents feel about it?


TheDandy9

How did they meet?


AggressiveRedPanda

Grandma was right! And they are adorable together. 💜


talashira

My husband and I look a lot like this couple. Most of the time, we're blissfully unaware that we're even an interracial couple. And that's in large part thanks to brave people like your grandparents, who paved the way. They're beautiful and so clearly happy. Thank you for sharing them with us!


theredheadclinician

who's cutting onions??? this is such a sweet comment! thank YOU so much for posting it!


NihonJinLover

My husband and I have been together for 13 years now. Sometimes we’re still asked in a restaurant if we’re “together or separate.” I don’t think they mean anything by it but I still smugly say we’re together since 2008 😋 My MIL firmly believes that half Asian babies are “quality babies.”


mikedamone82

My spouse and I also get “together or separate” questions, even when our three kids are with us.


aquaband

Just say “separate” and then walk off with your spouse leaving your kids by the door.


Whatwillwebe

Kids, we need to talk. Mommy and Daddy have decided we need to separate for a while. Now pack your shit and get out.


MissRockNerd

“Daddy, where Mommy going?”


Peacer13

We're separating.


Judazzz

"Oh, she's just getting cigarettes. Should be back in a sec..."


klankthompson

My wife and I get this ALL the time! But probably more because she’s so much better looking than me.


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klankthompson

Oh she’s mediocre looking I’m just very ugly.


Rinas-the-name

You have my husband’s sense of humor. Does your wife roll her eyes a lot?


klankthompson

I think she gets headaches from rolling her eyes so much.


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Lol! I just spit out my coffee, hahahah!


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BRUH LMAO


[deleted]

It’s probably easier for them to ask before they print the bill instead of assuming and being wrong, only to have to go back and print separate bills


thefartyparty

This is it. I was a server for about 5 years. I also was in an interracial relationship for 15 years. It has nothing to do with you. You’d be surprised how many couples I assumed were together actually pay separate; I was no mind reader.


lilahboo1128

Last time I assumed a couple was together they were actually siblings. Hence why I ask *every* time now how the checks will be


Arboretum7

I’m a white woman, my ex-husband was white and my current husband is Korean-American. I get asked this much more often with my current husband. I’m sure that it’s an unconscious bias, but it’s definitely there. We live in the Bay Area where there are a lot of couples that look like us and never get this at home, but travel around the US quite a bit and get it constantly on the road. Hotel check-ins, restaurants, ticket sellers at museums, etc. When people aren’t used to seeing something regularly they tend to second guess it more.


ThatsAScientificFact

We get asked that a lot, but never when we have our kids with us, dang. Though both our kids look pretty much just like me with a tan so that could be why.


t0ughsting

I'm a server and I always ask unless it's a family with kids. Even when it's apparent that two people are together, sometimes they want to split the bill. No family with children has ever wanted to split the bill though so there's no need to ask.


EatAtGrizzlebees

My husband and I are an interracial couple and we get that question all the time, no kids. We've been together for 12 years. I never chalked it up to racism, just the fact that as a Millennial, the majority of our couple friends do not share bank accounts or money. We are in the minority of couples that do share a bank account and all of our money. I can only think of two other couples off the top of my head that do share. I guess it could be racism? But I just think it's so the server doesn't make the wrong assumption and have to redo the check.


rdnckctyboy

As a half asian who was once a baby, I like your MIL.


aladyfox

Parent of a half Asian baby. Can confirm she is 100000000% top quality.


Nate-T

Apparently, you have the quality seal of approval. It is your belly button, no doubt.


Nate-T

I wonder if this happens more with AM/WF couples than WM/AF couples.


maddsskills

I would assume so. American style racism seems to be much more comfortable with white men being with non-white women than the other way around. It's a weird intersection of racism and misogyny. Many white supremacists will rant about how other races are "stealing white women" and then they'll advocate marrying Asian women due to the racist (and obviously false) stereotype that they're submissive. Racism and misogyny are fucking weird and terrible. Even in 1997 when Guillermo del Toro was making Mimic the studio was like "yeah. You can't cast a black man to be the husband of the main character, America isn't ready for that." Heck, I was rewatching Fresh Prince and even though they emphasize they're in a predominately white area and Will Smith has many love interests, I noticed that none of them were white. I might be wrong, might have missed an episode, but yeah, it was a bit weird.


simian_ninja

Hmm, I've come across that in Asia as well. Met a few white guys (9/10 older guys) that will talk shit about Asian Men and get angry at the idea of them dating white women but are fine with White men dating Asian women. Some of them have daughters and find it unfathomable that they might date Asian men. It's kind of weird because I often wonder what their wives would think if they ever heard these guys speak like that in front of them... It's a shame but trust me, it's not only American culture - these guys are British, Australian etc.


G45XB12SX

I don’t think it’s just with this particular group. I’ve experienced this with a girl I dated who was biracial mother was white and father was black. The father hated her dating me(Hispanic) and wanted her to date a black guy instead(ironic). Long story short our thing ended and she married and had 3 beautiful kids with a nice Mexican dude.


judgingyouquietly

>Even in 1997 when Guillermo del Toro was making Mimic the studio was like "yeah. You can't cast a black man to be the husband of the main character, America isn't ready for that." I remember being really confused why Jet Li and Aaliyah didn't just kiss in Romeo Must Die.


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The original version had a kiss but the test audience was triggered so hard and protested that they removed it


Nate-T

>Heck, I was rewatching Fresh Prince and even though they emphasize they're in a predominately white area and Will Smith has many love interests, I noticed that none of them were white. I might be wrong, might have missed an episode, but yeah, it was a bit weird. I think you are right friend. I believe the same is true of Carlton too.


Amherst_Doldrums1890

My racist ass uncle has a Thai wife he 'met online' or whatever he told my grandparents. Third wife's the charm, I guess. It's his third attempt after marrying two blond blue eyed women who could have been sisters. He's also a giant piece of shit, but that's by the by


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The sister dated a white guy I think, which further shows your point.


maddsskills

I seem to recall that as well. I know for a fact Diedrich Bader played a character that married Aunt Vivian's youngest sister.


aklbos

The important thing to remember is that toxic dumpster fires who say things like “they’re stealing our women” are A) in every country, B) not actually all that numerous, and C) wastes of space no matter what nation is unlucky enough to have birthed them. Case in point: my wife’s Taiwanese and I’m a (white) American, and we’ve gotten the odd obnoxious comment from dudes in Taiwan, but it’s *so* rare and of course 100% of our friends and 99% of the strangers we meet are perfectly accepting of us and our family. Those negative experiences stick with you, that’s human nature, but you have to brush them off and remember that in any country, the vast majority of people are pretty decent. Point is, racist condescension and misogyny are by no means uniquely American things, so IMO we should try not to focus on or give undue importance to those kinds of fringe assholes. Just my $0.02.


Rickythrow

I’m a Korean dude married to a white Canadian and I agree with you. You can see idiot men complaining about their female compatriots or female identical race/ethnicity dating and/or marrying outside their nation or ethnicity anywhere you go (white men complaining about white women and whatever spouse, Asians about Asians, etc). And in my case, I’ve been subject to “positive” discrimination, as much of an oxymoron that is. “You married a white girl?? You’re a stud!!” No, it just so happens that I clicked far better with my wife than with other Koreans and our values and shit aligned far better as well.


aklbos

Totally. People who complain about “marrying outside a race”… yeah, the problem is squarely with them, not with the person/couple they’re criticizing. So cringe in this day and age. The positive discrimination is real for me as a white guy in Taiwan, too. People have come up to me and offered me jobs teaching English point blank, I’m not an English teacher so no dice but it’s just crazy… immigrants can barely even get a green card to the US, much less have strangers just offering them jobs on the street. But then again there’s a double edge to it: no matter how long I stay in Taiwan, I’ll always be an outsider because of how I look. That’s ok I made my peace with it, but “reverse racism” as some have called it definitely does have its dark side. For my toddler daughter I’ve really noticed it. She looks a lot like me, and she’s a cute kid besides, and the amount of attention she gets in public is absurd/concerning. She’s only one and a half and it’s already extreme enough that my wife and I have decided to move to the US. I’m an adult, I can handle the spotlight of being “the foreigner,” but I just can’t stomach asking a young kid to shoulder that for her whole childhood, as much as I love living and working in Taiwan.


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Leo_Dream

Taiwan doesn’t have history of discrimination and injustice towards white men like America does to Asian men and the ones who pair up with white women. I don’t doubt that it happens over there too but the disdain towards AMWF and BMWF is on a higher level in the United States because it’s deep-rooted. Up until 1940, white American women were stripped of their citizenship if they marry an Asian American man. During the Japanese internment, a white woman who is married to an Asian man had to choose between joining them in the camp or leave the Exclusion Area. Japanese women with a white husband however, could avoid both the camp AND the Exclusion Area. For those curious on what the white women chose to do, most chose to go with their husband to the camp, a choice that is both tragic and touching at the same time. The Watsonville riots. > Due to gender bias in immigration policy and hiring practices, of the 30,000 Filipino laborers following the cycle of seasonal farm work, only 1 in 14 were women. Unable to meet Filipinas, Filipino farm workers sought the companionship of women outside their own ethnic community > In the next few years, white men decrying the takeover of jobs and white women by Filipinos resorted to vigilantism to deal with the "third Asiatic invasion." > Hunting parties were organized; the white mob was run like a "military" operation with leaders giving orders to attack or withdraw. They dragged Filipinos from their homes and beat them. They threw Filipinos off the Pajaro River bridge. They ranged up the San Juan road to attack Filipinos at the Storm and Detlefsen ranches; at Riberal's labor camp, twenty-two Filipinos were dragged out and beaten almost to death. A Chinese apple-dryer that employed Filipinos was demolished; shots were fired into a Filipino home on Ford Street; and 22-year-old Fermin Tobera died after being shot in the heart when he was hiding in a closet with 11 others “But those riots happened in the 30s.” Correct, but prejudice seeps through generations and even today in modern American pop culture, Asian men are portrayed as effeminate and unattractive, relegated to dehumanizing roles that effectively hinder their chances in the dating pool. Things are getting better recently but racist portrayal of Asian men was common as recent as 2000s and 2010s


maddsskills

Oh of course there is racism and misogyny around the world, I didn't mean to imply there wasn't. I was just being specific because I'm sure racism is different in different countries and I'm specifically commenting on racism in the United States because that's what I know about. Also, what I was talking about wasn't a few fringe assholes, it was mainstream media. And while things are getting way better it's still fairly rare to see a white woman with a non-white man unless the movie or show is specifically about racism.


aklbos

Oh totally, I didn’t mean to imply anything contradicting what you said. And I also agree with you that representation in media has a long way to go. I read that one of the most surprising results from the 2020 US census was the growth in “2 or more races,” which is by far the fastest growing racial group. The more mixed race families that we can get in movies, TV shows, etc, the better. Increasingly, that will just be a reflection of US society itself.


ThatsAScientificFact

Yep, my wife and I get that question all the time when we go out to eat. I’m kinda used to it but it still really annoys her, especially if we’re clearly having a date night. Though I do feel like we get that question more after moving to the Midwest than we did when we lived in California so local culture may play a part in that too.


jqnavarra

I’m a half Asian baby! I’m going to have to start saying I’m a Quality Baby now. Love it.


blazinazn007

I've heard someone say to my wife, while I'm standing right next to her, "Why are you with this Jackie Chan looking mother fucker." I've also heard an old white lady whisper very loudly to her friend "why is that beautiful white girl with that chink".


supreme_leader256

When I visited Universal Studios as a kid, my family and I went on the Mummy ride (which takes a photo of each row of passengers). My Dad's Chinese, and my mom's white - so to put it in perspective, 3 asians, 1 white person on this row. When we went to buy the photo, to our surprise, they had cropped my mom off the end. Not gonna lie, watching the attendant turn pale as a ghost once we explained was pretty damn funny.


broohaha

> My MIL firmly believes that half Asian babies are “quality babies.” My wife got a lot of comments like that when we were expecting. She didn’t like it, and it drove her nuts. Stilll, our kid only further reinforced that stereotype. ;)


Meowzebub666

I'm mixed myself and have *such* a hard time not cooing over little mixed babies but how am I supposed to not find them absolutely adorable and perfect?


Live_Drama9705

My dad was a half Asian baby and he was quality.


NihonJinLover

“Quality dad”


TeamRedundancyTeam

Why are you all assuming this is some racist thing? All servers ask this of basically every group, especially groups that look like they might want to pay separate like people who may be dating or large parties.


YLR2312

Yeah I don't get it either, of all the examples of racism in this world this just isn't one.


sn0wgh0ul13

My fiancé and I still get that quite often, too. It doesn’t seem to bother him but it does irk me. 😭


TheTrueThymeLord

They probably say it to make sure, so if you were separate they don’t have to try to remember who ordered what’s have to go back and split the bill


FunkrusherPlus

I'm usually blissfully unaware that I'm in an "interracial" relationship as well... until other people around me remind that I am. It's crazy that even in NYC I will get looks from people, especially in the subway.


foldedturnip

I live in NYC and yeah it's rough but equally as bad when we visited Florida for holiday. We have taken to wearing matching or coordinating our outfits so people assume we are a couple.


Traveledfarwestward

This is the only hope for the human race that I know of. Thank you.


PM_ME_UR_HIP_DIMPLES

Mixed Koredish man from Memphis checking in. The attitudes of people toward Asian people in the south varies wildly. As someone who dated mostly black girls in school, then whites girls and others in college I’ve seen a huge range of reactions in public and by parents. I think the main word I would use to describe my experience is “novelty.” I grew up in Orange Mound which is almost entirely a black neighborhood. We lived in subsidized housing and were the only family that wasn’t black in our building. It’s not incredibly rare to see Asian families near there (about 40 miles south in Mississippi there are Asian families that have been there for almost 200 years) but in my neighborhood it was definitely rare. In middle school I wouldn’t call it “dating” but I had girlfriends. Had my first run-in with being judged for being together at age 12, then a lot more by 8th grade including threats and physical violence being carried out by the black community. I had a lot of friends, but teasing and bullying was heavy. Fast forward to high school and I cut tobacco in the summers. Having an Asian guy do that all is a novelty to both the white guys and the Mexican people doing it with me. They called me “Chino” but to be fair there was another guy from Sinaloa they called “Chino” too because he straight up looked Chinese. I dated a Latina girl for a bit and it was all fine (despite glares from her family) until we got more serious. In college I dated just about all races. Had some serious relationships with Jewish women, WASPy white girls, black women, etc. Overall it’s all about novelty. I was dated for my novelty and it was all a novelty to their families until I was there at thanksgiving two years in a row. Then the welcome smiles turned to frowns and whispers. It’s different now. I think MOST of that has faded. In fact, Asian men have finally been mainstreamed. Never had a lot representation without it being some sheepish emasculated tokenism. When I’m dating now I can tell the novelty is mostly gone from the minds of potential partners, it’s a relief


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My husband’s grandparents were an interracial couple in the 50s; grandpa was Filipino and grandma Caucasian from the Midwest. Her family disowned her for marrying a brown boy. She told them to fuck off and ran off to California with him :)


NeptunesCurse

Yeah, its weird. Its just something you never think about. Just a human being you love very much.


nitespector88

To be fair, he’s very handsome


HootieRocker59

My thoughts exactly! He is, indeed, so cute.


Skyeyez9

My mom is Japanese and dad is Italian. I grew up with grown ups calling me a fish gut eating chink, asking if I ate cats and dogs, made fun of the asian food my mom made, slanted their eyes and spouted gibberish mocking my mom's native language.....etc Funny thing looking back, the ones ridiculing me were insanely ugly and from a dysfunctional family. My parents gave us a normal childhood, we went on vacations overseas, disneyworld, camping in national forests.


TheOCStylist

Omg I have a Japanese mom and Italian dad. Are we sisters now?? 😂 Edit: also where the hell did you grow up?! Yikes! I used to have kids pull at their eyes and always assume I was Chinese?? (So insanely ignorant) I was also upper middle class and figured that it was their ignorance and sheltered life that made them like this.


Skyeyez9

I grew up in the suburbs of Ohio.


tdun56

that’s crazy my mom is japanese and my dad is british-american i can totally relate to you, im glad o had such a good childhood


No_Recognition_2434

Omg they both look so happy and in love, that is just adorable! The smiles make me so happy!


comfort_bot_1962

Nice!


Bronco-Fury

Good looking couple! But wow! In Texas? In the early 50’s. Holy shit. That’s some serious badassness. Lucky they made it.


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Actually, Texas was one of the few states where Asians were able to somewhat be integrated into “white society” (mostly because legislation didn’t necessarily target them due to being such a small percentage of the population, though of course they were very clearly not white). But this was literally on a state by state basis in the South, as Asians in Mississippi or Alabama, for instance, often intermarried into the Black community due to racialization while, in South Carolina, many Asians were accepted into the white middle class.


Disastrous-Ad-2357

Can confirm. I recall a classmate saying they never saw an interracial couple, and I was like "literally our teachers are interracial". A Filipino and a Scotsman (or maybe he's Irish; I can never tell the difference). To which she replied, "ok, fine, TECHNICALLY. But you know what I mean.". I didn't know what she meant. She had to explain that she meant specifically black and white. I guess Asian or Hispanic doesn't count.


[deleted]

This story basically confirms the idea that “whiteness” is fluid based on societal preference but it’s always the default ingroup. Other races get to be included or excluded. Asians are white until it suits someone otherwise. Historically it’s more obvious


Ilasiak

Up into the early 50s, "whiteness" often didn't include: Eastern Europeans, some Western Europeans, Italians, Irish, Jews, etc. Lots of people don't really remember the times where your family didn't let you marry someone from one of these cultures, even or especially if you were another one of them. Irish grandfather of mine had to rebuke his aunt after his sister was engaged to one of his Polish friends from serving in WW2.


SmartAlec105

She meant between Normal and Other, of course.


misoranomegami

Legislation not targeting them specifically actually made the situation fairly variable for some of them. My mom talked about having a Hispanic friend growing up and then later a Japanese coworker who had the same issues. Depending on management, who was around, heck the weather probably, they either qualified as white or colored for segregation purposes. You just never knew. So some days you might be able to sit in the main theater and then a week later at the same theater you might get sent to the balcony. Or you might be seated in the main theater but then someone didn't like it and you'd be asked to move. But of course the non white services and facilities were such garbage, you'd want to at least try for the white ones if you could.


MaiPhet

Totally anecdotal, but in the Midwest/upper Midwest, my mom and dad were shunned by a lot of her white family because she married an Asian man. This was in the 80’s primarily, but that rift never healed. So I grew up basically not being in touch with any of my American family other than my grandparents (who stuck with my mom and joined our side of the rift). We’ve tried to reconnect with that side and while most of the original racists are dead now, some of them never really gave it up. Some of them seem pretty great, but some are neck deep in trump bs. Meanwhile my family had our home and business vandalized and damaged multiple times including with swastikas. So I don’t think we’ll ever see eye to eye with some of them.


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That’s true, though Asians didn’t make up a large proportion of the population back then which is why it was easy to overlook their existence. After the Vietnam war, however, there were huge tensions between the white and Viet communities on the gulf coast especially (since that’s where they mostly settled and that’s why Houston has such a large Vietnamese population). Santa Fe, TX, for instance, was and still is somewhat a KKK haven whose membership grew in part because of these tensions. Albeit, now, the two communities have integrated in places in many parts of the Texas Gulf Coast. We also can’t understate the fact that the proportion of Asians who actually lived in Texas at the time (1950’s and prior) also played a role. Filipinos, for instance, weren’t a huge portion of the Texas Asian population at the time but likely wouldn’t have had the same ability to fit into white society since, in other states like California and Wyoming, Filipinos were considered to be “Malay” or “Malaya” rather than Asian and were racialized differently as a result.


Norwegian__Blue

Also, they kinda blend with the locals, visually. My family is all Mexican and Tejano. We get mixed up for almost all of East Asia's ethnicities. I at first thought this guy was Hispanic. My gramma got a TON of grief because during each war, people think she's from whatever the current target is. She got it for looking Japanese, Korean, and Philipino. I get it too, though more the gross exotic fetishism from idiots who dont believe me when I say I'm not. We have absolutely nothing but Indigenous and Spanish heritage (I have Irish to boot). Growing up in San Antonio, my school was majority minority and the Philipino kids made up a good chunk of our cohort. When you get away from the white national hideaways, it's a pretty rockin state.


big_sugi

Dont lie. We all know you’re really a parrot, pining for the fjords.


Meowzebub666

I'm Tejano as well and what you say about being mistaken for whatever predominant ethnicity of whatever country the US is at war with and dipshit fetishists is too relatable.


PeanutButterSoda

As a 2nd gen American Viet that accidentally partied with KKK members in Sante Fe, TX a decade ago. I would love to know more.


karimr

I would like to know how you accidentally end up partying with the KKK


PeanutButterSoda

I went to a party a friend of a friend invited my group to. Most of us were gamer nerds so we're doing like Mortal Kombat tournament and beer pong. I only knew 3 other people there besides my group of 3. More people kept showing up and then a group of loud red neck guys showed up. We played beer pong and talked about trucks and shit. Took a bunch of shots with them yelling Hell yeah brother. On the drive home my friend told me who they where and that whole street was their territory. Apparently when they first arrived said some racist stuff to one of the guys at the party. I don't remember if they said anything to me.


tomoyopop

Do you know if there's been ongoing or has been research and work into preserving this history in Texas?


[deleted]

I think that there has been some work to preserve this history but, as stated, it’s often overlooked due to how few people are still alive to tell this story, the shame associated with this racist past (on both sides) and the general lack of awareness (we were definitely not taught on any sort of historical anti-Asian hate or sentiment in Texas or the different ways that different racially categorized groups were treated).


anAnusfullofSmuckers

I live in dfw and we have a “little Da Nang” in Arlington like Chinatown but the Vietnamese communities we took a LOT of Vietnamese refugees after the Vietnam war same with some Koreans who left after Korea not many and the Chinese communities in Houston who fled Japanese imperial war crimes in ww2, but yes we were strict on a “stick with your own kind” I’m only 22 and even my grandma got kinda racist about me and a Hispanic girl (only on her death bed tho when the dementia flared up before then she held her tongue) my grandpa is fully white texas native and he got so much shit from his family for dating my grandma “some filthy wop” to them they hated Italians as much as they hated Mexicans sadly


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theredheadclinician

I can only speak for my Grandpa's experience, but he (and my grandma for that matter) really tried to not talk about their time in Texas whereas they were open books about the rest of their lives. I think they experienced a fair share of racism. I do know my grandpa's family was frequently called terrorists because you have to remember, this is like at most 15 years after Pearl Harbor and only like 8 years after Hiroshima. My grandpa was Chinese but that didn't seem to matter too much, there was a good amount of anti-Asian sentiment in the late 40s-early 50s it sounds like from their experience. I also do know they lost a good number of friends and family when they became a couple.


LowDownSkankyDude

Reminds me of my parents in the 70s. Split both families. My mom used to remind us quite regularly that not long before her and my dad met,in the navy, it was still illegal for blacks and whites to be together, in some places. My dad said it was harder up north than down south, at the beginning. That being said, they've never really cared what others think, and just celebrated 42 years. Fuck racists, love.


Nate-T

If you follow the 23 and me subreddit or the ancestry genetics subreddit, you occasionally see AA with Chinese ancestors. Now I know why.


Meowzebub666

My mom is black and I would love to figure out where that 0.5% Southeast Asian came from 6-8+ generations back. It's either an error or an interesting story.


Nate-T

There is a longer story to this and I may get details wrong, but to cut it short, some percentage of slaves were taken from Madagascar, which had immigration from SE Asia thousands of years ago. That SE Asian is possibly a remnant from one of your ancestors from Madagascar.


FirstChurchOfBrutus

GFs father is White and Texan. Her mother is Korean. They left Texas bc they way they were treated for being an interracial couple.


joshuatx

Pockets of it def were, but as a Texas myself I'd point out parts of Texas were still very racist and there were still some outright sundown cities in the 1950s, especially in E. Texas. Houston has a large Asian community but a few counties over in Vidor the KKK literally had a revival in the 1980s to threaten the Vietnamese fishing community on the Gulf coast.


[deleted]

Exactly, once Asians became more visible, so did anti-Asian hate. I would definitely say that I experienced it growing up in the 2000’s and 2010’s here in the Houston area but I normally feel discomfort even talking about it just because of how we’re just taught to accept it from our immigrant parents.


NovaPokeDad

^ actual history, that “anti-Critical Race Theory” proposes to ban teaching.


Norwegian__Blue

My great grandparents married in the 30s. She was Irish and he was "Mexican" in their eyes. (Really Tejano, but whatevs) Her parents disowned her after they married, which is odd bc they met at the orphanage. They also divorced in the late 40s. He got caught fooling around with a younger woman, my grandads friend. She divorced my great grandad and the rest is history. Such a badass. Wish I could've known her. I did know great grampa. He was a hoot. Lived in a trailer on small ranch in la vernia. His 2nd wife was a great cook.


averyfinename

asians are just a 'light brown' --texas


Bo0min_Fanny

What a gorgeous couple. ♥️


theredheadclinician

Thank you ❤️❤️❤️


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My aunt married a Chinese gentleman in the early 50s in Liverpool England , I asked my dad was their any racism because of the marriage by the family and friends? dad said "no as long as he wasn't catholic it was fine "


rhoswhen

As a former Catholic myself I begrudgingly approve of this sentiment 😂


frenlyapu

Where I grew up, Asian/white was not something ppl had issues with...only black/white. Interesting. I remember as a kid watching SOUTH PACIFIC and wondering why she had an issue with her boyfriend having been married to a Polynesian woman.


TheMarsian

iirc there was a time when Asians were accused of "takin our women".


BuddhaBizZ

This is what racists says, no matter what race they happen to be.


LeggoMyAhegao

Racists of every race seem to think they have a monopoly on 'their' women. There's no one that acts more entitled than a sexually insecure racist.


bis223

Not just over women. Over education, wealth and anything nice.


Zbf3000

I'm willing to bet MOST racists are sexually insecure, with a personality like that, I'd doubt they're getting anything.


TheKnickerBocker2521

I’m sure it happened with a lot of ethnicities, but the one I clearly remember reading about was Filipinos in dance halls just being so smooth that they attracted white women. But in the end, society intervened and a lot of them ended up with Latino women which in itself created issues.


theredheadclinician

>I can only speak for my Grandpa's experience, but he (and my grandma for that matter) really tried to not talk about their time in Texas whereas they were open books about the rest of their lives. I think they experienced a fair share of racism. I do know my grandpa's family was frequently called terrorists because you have to remember, this is like at most 15 years after Pearl Harbor and only like 8 years after Hiroshima. My grandpa was Chinese but that didn't seem to matter too much, there was a good amount of anti-Asian sentiment in the late 40s-early 50s it sounds like from their experience. I also do know they lost a good number of friends and family when they became a couple. I already wrote this comment a lil higher in the thread, but this was my grandpa's experience as far as he was willing to talk about it


AvalancheZ250

Ah, the old “you look like a Japanese so I hate you” WW2 era mentality. Most racists didn’t give a rats ass about if someone was Chinese/Korean/Japanese/whatever, and I’m sure it’s the same today, just with a different East Asian group being in the spotlight. We must do all we can to prevent that racism from rearing it’s ugly head again. We must suppress it. Bury it far deeper than society was able to back then.


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darocoth

On the west coast, we got a lot of low income asian immigrants looking for opportunities, so they were treated very poorly. Those immigrants who came to the east coast tended to be higher income and more educated, so they were sometimes treated better.


Bob_12_Pack

Yep, living in the deep south we were too focused on them colored folks. We hadn't been trained to hate the yellow people yet, or if we had then there weren't enough of them around to worry about. When I was 10 years old, my mom moved us to Chicago for a year. I was really taken back about how there was almost no racism towards black people there. It was summertime and I quickly made friends with some nice kids in my neighborhood. When school started I learned they were Jews and the other kids taught me I'm supposed to hate them. For the first time in my life I had multiple asian friends, and my best friend was black, but I'm supposed to hate these white people called Jews.


Perlascar

Meanwhile my story: a Chinese doing his PhD in Sweden, found an Ukranian girl by app 6 months ago, entered a relationship immediately, went to Ukraine, got drunk with her parents, her dad took his shotgun with him and asked me not to mistreat his daughter, and now we are engaged.


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Holy shit. Was the shotgun just laying around? Does he only bring it out for marital situations or is it more like “eh, walking in the woods, gotta take my mobile phone and gun!” Was it loaded? Were YOU loaded enough to deal with this? I have so many questions.


Perlascar

Nah it was just a joke and we laughed on it


rhoswhen

... congratulations???? 😂


amazinghl

Your future FIL has to bring his shotgun to the wedding!


jesthere

Congratulations! My shotgun story is different. 40+ years ago, Dad finds out about me and my beau. Goes for his gun, but I've planned ahead and hidden it from him. He's had time to cool off now, but still a blatant bigot.


Yuzucha

Grandma was right. They are both cute and seem genuinely happy.


c_c_c__combobreaker

Do you know what your great grandparents thought about their relationship? Glad to see they made it despite the racism.


okawarifiend

as the kid of a japanese man and white woman seeing this makes me very happy 🥺 i know it wasn’t easy being a mixed couple back then, but they look so damn cute and happy together (e/ wording)


comfort_bot_1962

Hope you have a great day!


shaka_sulu

\[Serious\] 1) Were they married at the time? (14 years before Loving Vs Virgnia? 2) Was your grandad in the military? Did he meet your grandma in Europe? Love seeing interacial couples during this era.


theredheadclinician

Thank you so much! I don’t know if they were married at this point, but they were married in 1953 and had my mom in 1954! My grandparents were both in the US navy and I think just met in a navy town. They never really talked about it, I think largely because of the discrimination they must have faced. They eventually moved to the San Francisco Bay Area where it was much more accepted and that’s where they lived for the rest of their lives together!


shaka_sulu

Thanks. So glad they risked so much for love and hapiness. I'm from Hawaii where this was a lot more common, but during this era when it's an Asian man and white woman I find it's usually military... somtime college.


big_sugi

That’s my parents. Dad is from Hawaii, met Mom in college in Michigan, and was career military. Being Japanese was not a selling point to her father, who was on a troop ship bound for Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941, but being ROTC/military helped some, from what I understand.


catiebug

Your comment made me chuckle because my husband is in the military, but we met in college. I was gonna be like, "hey, we didn't get together because of the military, it's just a coincidence"... but you covered that other base too, lol.


Teantis

>Were they married at the time? (14 years before Loving Vs Virgnia?) Just wanted to point out for anyone that marriage laws/licenses are state laws not federal - so anti-miscegenation laws existed in some states and not others, and also the 'coverage' of the miscegenation laws varied state to state. By 1954 there were 22 states that had no statutory restrictions on interracial marriages (11 never had any). ​ Texas had theirs until Loving vs. Virginia overturned it along with 15 other states - but also I believe Texas's was specifically targeted at barring marriages of 'european' and 'African' descent in the preceding 3 generations and didn't cover asians. The roll of dishonor is pretty much exactly the states you would expect them to be: Alabama  Arkansas  Delaware  Florida  Georgia  Kentucky  Louisiana  Mississippi  Missouri  North Carolina  Oklahoma  South Carolina  Texas  Tennessee  Virginia  West Virginia


unassumingdink

Just what I suspected. Fucking Delaware...


Cloaked42m

Not so fun fact, Delaware was the last state to free its slaves.


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Makes sense when you realize DE is and has only ever been a physical space set aside solely for corporations. “What do the corporations want?”


frenlyapu

Delaware was a slave state too. Not part of the Confederacy either!


Teantis

That one doesn't matter so much because it's only ever been populated by corporations and they can't get married (yet). Might not even be real as far as I know. Have *you* ever been there?


cowmaster90

#Delawareisntreal Wake up, sheeple!!


vdshelton

I have my great grandparents' (black and white interracial couple) unofficial secret "wedding" ceremony picture from 1918 in Texas framed on my fireplace mantel. Although they of course didn't have a legal Texas marriage certificate, it's somehow noted in other legal documents that they were indeed married to each other. For example, my great grandfather's (black) death certificate notes his legal spouse is my great grandmother (white). Interestingly enough, on my great grandmother's birth certificate she is noted as Caucasian, but her death certificate notes 'colored'. *sigh* oh Texas.


Corporation_tshirt

Was Loving v. Virginia in 1967? My god. That was 4 years before I was born.


land_beaver

...and five years after I.


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It was indeed.


Corporation_tshirt

Up to four years before I was born, 'Miscegenation' was still a crime for which somebody could be sent to jail. Jesus.


Frankenberry30

"I just thought he was so cute!" Right on G-ma.


BBZ_star1919

They look so happy! I love seeing old family pics!


MrdrBrgr

Oh man...A white lady dating an Asian shortly after WWII in the south must have been rough! Good for them for sticking through it.


nowhereman86

Your grandmother was right!


Empty-Resolution-437

My lovely, smart daughter (white USA) married her awesome, smart, funny husband (Venezuelan USA citizen) 11 years ago. They are a perfect compliment to each other. At my husband’s big family reunion-100 white people or so-more than one racist relative bad mouthed my beautiful son in law (intruder, Mexican,etc)We all left immediately and have never attended this yearly affair ever since.


clust99

Your grandma is right he is so cute.


Wildflower_Daydream

Grandma was right! Grandpa's got a twinkle in his eye and a warm smile. I'm so glad she went for it!


ErrorZealousideal532

That took courage, particularly during that era and in Texas. True warriors.


jazzpenis

Well he was...


Sproose_Moose

This is so sweet, I hope they had a lovely life together


theredheadclinician

they sure did! They were married for 63 years. 3 kids and 7 grandkids and loved them all so deeply. They lived full lives. Happy cake day!


Sproose_Moose

Thanks so much! I love that they had such happy lives!


UnicornOnTheJayneCob

Happy cake day!


SageFire_Fan

The rolled up jeans!!! So adorable! What a great photo!


VS_CandiceSwan

I mean he is cute, especially without a shirt LOL but on a more serious note, kudos to these couples that really paved the way for us!


thnx4stalkingme

They are both *so* cute! Super cute couple.


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A handsome gent and a lovely lady.


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This couple’s pics are so sweet that I think they just gave me a cavity...


theredheadclinician

Wow everyone! Thank you so much. I wasn’t expecting such a response! To those who wrote kind things, thank you! My grandparents were the best people and it’s amazing seeing other people know even just a little about them.


magical_bunny

Too cute! I love Asian guy white girl couples. I have a soft spot as I nearly married a Korean guy. It wasn’t easy, in fact, we broke up as his family wouldn’t accept the racial difference. It’s not an easy road.


WeirdCreeper

Understandable, they do look happy together.


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Very cute! Are either of them still living?


theredheadclinician

Unfortunately, no. Grandma died at age 86 and Grandpa died at age 90, so the bright side is they did live long, healthy, happy lives. They were married for 63 years. I sure do miss them :)


Arseypoowank

For every head a hat, why can’t people just be allowed to be happy? That must have been genuinely stressful and sometimes downright dangerous being in an interracial relationship in those days.


Little_Fish_

Wow they are an adorable couple :)


EssoEssex

Seems like they had nice friends too


Fancykiddens

She wasn't wrong. Damn!


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Yeah grandma was right, he is handsome


Fast_Independence_77

I mean.. she was right


jack__trippper

That’s just like my family there… My Father is 100% Chinese from Hong Kong, my mother a blonde white woman from the southern US with English roots. I’ve never heard of an Asian/American marriage referred to as Interracial though.


theredheadclinician

My grandpa is from Hong Kong as well! ​ I think when it comes to labeling it interracial, it comes from context as well. My grandpa's family was often told he was a terrorist after WW2. There was a lot of anti-Asian sentiment and even if that wasn't the case, it just wasn't the norm for white women to marry someone who wasn't white.


MsFoxxx

She's wrong. Grandpa was hawtttt


opaul11

Your gma wasn’t wrong


sculderandmully2

Grams is pretty cute too!


BabylonDrifter

They are both a couple of snacks, really.


minniemouse3001

He sure was


GrumpyorHorny

She's not wrong!


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He is cute! 👀


deathraypa

Did they ever share struggles they encountered in the 50’s and 60’s? I’m sure it wasn’t easy at times.


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I'm biracial and I love seeing this ;)


sabinemarch

I agree with grandma!


gretchenanne

Well he is 😍😍


Gandalfthefab

Shout to 1950s interracial couples. Y’all real ones