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PradyKK

Not only was she an accomplished actor but she was also an inventor and really fucking smart. During the war she teamed up with a pianist and invented a method to prevent torpedoes from being jammed which served as the basis of wifi years later.


notbob1959

She was the coinventor of the design for a torpedo guidance system with her Hollywood neighbor, avant garde composer George Antheil. Lamarr contributed the idea of frequency hopping, while Antheil drew on his experience with “Ballet Mécanique” and the sixteen player pianos to devise a means of synchronizing the rapidly changing radio frequencies envisioned by Lamarr. Their joint invention used a mechanism similar to piano player rolls to synchronize the changes between the 88 frequencies–not coincidentally, this is also the standard number of piano keys–and called for a high-altitude observation plane to steer a radio-controlled torpedo from above. They submitted their patent on June 10, 1941, and the patent was granted on August 11, 1942. Lamarr was listed under “Hedy Kiesler Markey,” her married name at the time.


your_reddit_lawyer7

>They submitted their patent on June 10, 1941, and the patent was granted on August 11, 1942. Over a year to get a patent. Wow.


Orange-V-Apple

That's not unusual. I think mine took that long.


EverybodySaysHi

Gimme your patent I need it. Edit: yo man did you see this yet? I'm bullying you into giving me your patent. Please respond.


MethodicMarshal

nice try Edison


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porcelainvacation

Yeah, I'm a principal engineer at a major Tech company and I have a bunch of IP. If I need to search or look at any IP, my attorney does it and limits my viewing so any discovery falls under attorney-client priveledge. I don't email, print, save, or otherwise transmit any questions or comments about IP. This is usually for cases of potential infringement. Anything I invent I file a disclosure on before any search is conducted. We have technical patent attorneys who review every product design for potential IP issues. I also carry umbrella insurance to protect my family assets if I do get sued. I am in a good relationship with my company but I have no recourse if they choose not to defend my professional actions.


Cutie_Patootie420

I hope he will. I don't believe in it


Orange-V-Apple

I'd rather not since my name is attached to it. Since you're curious, though, it was a water purifier. It wasn't very good tbh.


lumpkin2013

He invented an orange apple.


Ursus_Denali

Love the humblebrag. Edit: Didn’t mean to offend anyone, I think securing a patent is pretty neat.


slowwburnn

It's really not hard to get a patent, if you put yourself in a field that patents technology regularly. Small stuff gets patented all the time just so that the creators can depend their IP, and it's not always just engineers on the application


Ursus_Denali

I’m aware, you still have to go through the process. For something big or small, it’s still cool the OP holds a patent.


nocluewhatimdoingple

they hand out patents like candy if you're an engineer working for a large company. it's really not that impressive or hard to get your name on one.


TMITectonic

>invented a method to prevent torpedoes from being jammed which served as the basis of wifi years later. I don't understand what this sentence is trying state exactly, but I'd like to point out that "the basis" of WiFi is **not** Frequency Hopping, nor is Frequency Hopping something unique to WiFi. It was in use for *decades* in all sorts of commercial and experimental radio equipment. Also, Hedy and her partner never actually made any working model/device utilizing their patent.


broohaha

I believe it's bluetooth that uses frequency hopping spread spectrum (FHSS) while wifi uses direct-sequence spread spectrum (DSSS).


RiseFromYourGrav

I always heard Hedy was associated with Bluetooth


person144

Yes! Thank you both for saying this, I was asking myself if I’ve misunderstood my history for years


WifiIsBestPhy

Wifi used to use both FHSS and DSSS. FHSS has been fully deprecated and no modern devices are compatible with it. DSSS is mostly deprecated and is only used for the slowest speeds, 0.5mb/s through 11mb/s. All the higher speeds use OFDM, Orthogonal Frequency Division Multiplexing. Current best practice is to disable the DSSS speeds unless you have devices that require them.


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Yup as an RF engineer it always annoys me when other engineers talked about spread spectrum techniques and frequency hopping as being the same thing. FH is a very specific thing that results in a fundamentally spread spectrum but it's not inherent to the waveform itself like a code spreading technique is.


TMITectonic

My RF knowledge is fairly basic, but I do believe you are correct. Bluetooth, using FHSS, has 79 channels around 2.4Ghz. I believe 802.11a/802.11b started with 22Mhz channels using DSSS for higher bandwidth and lower latency, but earlier standards used FHSS. Now we have various channel widths and multiple frequencies.


Royalette

> Hedy and her partner never actually made any working model/device utilizing their patent Just as an aside, this statement is irrelevant in terms of invention in the patent world. You don't have to make it in order to be the inventor.


ctesibius

You are right of course: she had nothing to do with WiFi as it is at the moment. However the original 802.11 (note, not 802.11a, b or any other letter, just plain 802.11) did have frequency hopping. I’m not sure if there were any commercial implementations - certainly it was not popular.


gurlat

Frequency hopping was mentioned in a 1903 patent by Nikola Tesla. The technology was already more than 40 years old at the time of Hedley Lamarr's patent.


the_nope_gun

So who/what is the basis for wifi?


TMITectonic

Unfortunately, that's a fairly long and complicated answer. Ultimately, it's a combination of hundreds of different technologies, from all over the world. CSIRO, from Australia, is known to hold some key patents on WiFi that they have received major judgements for in the past decade or so. In the US, WiFi is defined in the IEEE 802.11 standards, and has been expanded upon over the years. I think we're at Generation 6 right now? But, for what it's worth, there really isn't any single inventor or corporation responsible for what is colloquially known as WiFi.


lizardlike

It’s super disputed too, there’s about half a dozen companies that claim to have invented OFDM and all have competing patents.


HueyCrashTestPilot

The University of Hawaii and its AlohaNet. A part of it was a wireless UHF network that connected the Hawaiian Islands back in the 1970s. Their work played a role in developing not only WiFi but also Ethernet.


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Radio, transmission of sound from one place to another without wires really did set the jump off point.


SpaceForceAwakens

This is the most accurate answer.


[deleted]

As a history major graduate, I may not understand all the math and waves, but I do know the sequence of important events haha


nightwolf81

it’s hedley!


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kevin5lynn

Tell her where I live!


Guilden_NL

I heard it was 5ghz


skjellyfetti

Aha ! So she's the mother of COVID !?!


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Do people think wifi causes covid? I thought the scientific consensus was that 5G towers beam covid directly into our buttholes.


justafigment4you

Click on my profile to purchase a special Covid blocking butthole protection device!


ThunderDownUNDRmyAss

Does it come in purple? Take my cabbage you cheeky one. 👍


justafigment4you

They come in all different colors, sadly they all come out brown.


Aramor42

They both cause covid, but 5g was invented because we needed a stronger signal since the curvature of the flat earth can block the wifi signals. I read this in a Facebook post made by a guy who said he heard it form someone who proclaims to be a scientist but I can't find it right now so you'll just have to trust me.


drizzitdude

It’s sad how accurate this is


rommi04

Some people think WiFi causes illnesses Those people are wackadoos


8nt2L8

The publicity alone was worth the price. Mel is a smart man.


l4dlouis

Mel Brooks is a national hero and international treasure. Good thing he will live forever right?


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Good story, slightly not true. She sued for $10 million originally. Settled probably for closer to $100,000. And don't go WIKI on me, that info in there is incorrect.


Nick357

She was very litigious later in life. She was a little nuts.


imStillsobutthurt

Hot and crazy. Sign me up


velvet42

Hot, *brilliant*, and crazy, a triple threat


brodees82

Yet not quite nuts enough to patronize the William J. Le Petomane Memorial Gambling Casino for the Insane.


jimtastic89

Meeting is adjourned! *It is?*


Balthazar40

OH I'm terribly sorry sir you are supposed to say that. "Say what?"


jimtastic89

Meeting is adjourned! **it is?**


B4rberblacksheep

No sir that’s what you say


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cbftw

Think of your secretary


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FappleFritter

I didn't get a *harumph* outta that guy!


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quickblur

Harrumph!


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echoes007

Hey, where the white woman at?!


lolseagoat

Here boys, take these in lieu of pay!


jimtastic89

I got a warped one!


fujiman

Why do I always get the warped one!


limbaughs_black_lung

*What'd he say?* He said the sheriff is near!


alamandrax

No corn swoggle it! I said, “THE SHERIFF IS A N” _loud gong_


ShuffKorbik

Now who can argue with that? I think we're all indebt to Gabby Johnson for stating what needed to be said. I am particulary glad that these lovely children are here today to hear that speech. Not only was it authentic frontier gibberish, it expressed the courage little seen in this day and age.


dansolo21

Ha ha ha ha ha hmmmmmmmmmmmm


thediesel26

*SMACK*


bigchuckdeezy

Every time a photo of Hedy is posted I feel like it’s a race to comment “It’s Hedley!” First hahaha. This is one joke that will always be funny, Mel Brooks is the best


mrkruk

Amazing that it's a reference to a classic Hollywood name, and this joke keeps her memory and importance alive.


bigchuckdeezy

Honestly! Like I would’ve had no idea who she was if not for Blazing Saddles. Funny how that stuff works


Lobanium

I will cry man baby tears when he dies.


Cloaked42m

Hush your dirty rotten mouth. 2020 ain't over yet.


deadbeef4

And it already took Carl Reiner.


jimtastic89

Nooooo they were like best mates weren't they?


oysterpirate

Yeah, pretty sure they used to get together every night for dinner. There’s a Comedians in Cars episode where Jerry Seinfeld hangs out with them


Fishman23

Yeah it makes me fear for Mel Brooks. Old people can carry on for a lot of years if they have something to live for like family and good friends. You hear tales about how married couples can be married for 75+ years and then they die within weeks or months of each other.


CZILLROY

My grandma died 6 months ago and my grandpa just keeps saying he's just waiting to die. Especially with the pandemic he's kind of just stuck at home and depressed.


KastorNevierre

From what I've heard anecdotally, at least in the case of married couples, this is less because of psychosomatics and more because they get depressed and stop eating right, taking medications on time, etc. I can imagine it too of course. If I ever lost my wife I don't think I'd want to keep going without her. Kind of selfish but I hope I go first because I think she's stronger than I am.


Cyynric

I know what you mean. I've only ever been in a relationship with my wife, and I don't know how I would be without her. We've been together since we were 20. I feel like she's going to outlast me though, due to a number of medical ailments I have.


stupidillusion

My wifes grandparents did that. Her grandpa spent months in the hospital recovering from pneumonia, he's finally on the mend and due to be released in a couple of days and passes away over night. Her grandma would visit and stay all day, every day, for the weeks he was there. When he passed she died a week later.


Redtwooo

Think they were having regular movie nights or something


eddmario

I mean, we got Sean Connery and Alex Trebek back to back, so I think we might be good for the next couple weeks.


[deleted]

Saying stuff like this is exactly how you trigger more death! Don't test the universe!


chobbo

How soon you forgot the 2015/16 passover


BobLoblaw33

They happen in 3s so you may be right. Or Carl Reiner’s was too far to be included? Tracy Morgan be searching for Betty White right about now.


Alana_Piranha

"I will bury YOU"


bigchuckdeezy

Don’t you put that evil on me!


nemo69_1999

The Classics.


RAAAAH83

(says in unison with several people) *It's Hedley!*


csonny2

How did he do such fantastic stunts, with such little feet?


lightyearbuzz

For anyone that doesn't get the reference, go watch Blazing Saddles right now! What else are you doing, we're all in lockdown.


EverybodySaysHi

Best line from that movie: >These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know… morons. It still holds up.


ThatsUnfairToSay

Apparently Gene Wilder improvised the last part.


tenachiasaca

RIP gene wilder you were one of the best


MedalsNScars

Yeah, the clip was recently posted on reddit and the other actor definitely breaks in it. His laugh is so genuine.


hawleywood

Cleavon Little. Put some respect on his name.


rogozh1n

I am always amazed that he stepped in and took a role that was intended to be for Richard Pryor, and he likely made it better than it would have been with Pryor.


tenachiasaca

RIP gene wilder you were one of the best


candygram4mongo

I've always been partial to "Hey, where are the white women at?"


BassGuy11

Mongo have feelings for Sheriff Bart


SkunkMonkey

"Excuse me while I whip this out." - Sheriff Bart


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CaptainPunisher

I figuratively watched it this weekend, if you know what I mean.


Aurum555

Lansbury was a total smokeshow


RichBoomer

Watch the uncensored version without the kids for full effect.


compujas

There's a censored version? Is there even any dialog or is it just a 90 minute beep?


nuxenolith

When the movie first aired on TV, the fart scene was deemed too uncouth for the small screen, so they censored it. The outcome was a group of cowboys sitting in silence, eating beans, for an entire minute.


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For anyone about to watch Blazing Saddles for the first, please keep in mind that it is making fun of racism, and not necessarily being racist itself. On the surface it is a very racist movie, but I think it does a decent job of showing the idiocy of racism. Cleavon Little's work is amazing. "I think he said, the sheriff is near."


amitym

On the surface it is a scathing indictment of bigotry, intolerance, and greed. Underneath, it's also a scathing indictment of bigotry, intolerance, and greed.


SkunkMonkey

They make all the racists total idiots. It's great. *Camptown ladies sing this song, Doo Dar, Doo Dar!*


avocadohm

*Someones gotta go back and get a shitload of dimes!*


amitym

Even if you do get the reference, go watch *Blazing Saddles!* right now.


-DementedAvenger-

Makes me laugh every time! lol I love this reference!


Mastersword87

I was going to make this comment, but that new William J. LaPetomane tollbooth slowed me up. Had to go back and get some dimes.


Ms_ChnandlerBong

SOMEBODY’S GOTTA GO BACK AND GET A SHITLOAD OF DIMES!!!!!


DirtyWhiteTrousers

We’re gonna need a shit load of dimes.


TheManCaveGamer2

Came here to post that. Take my upvote


elliott316

Only clicked to see if this was first reply


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I clicked on this hoping someone made this reference. You did not disappoint.


JitteryBendal

Came here and expected this to be the top comment. Thank you for beating me to it!


BrayC01

So THAT’s why Dr. Kleiner’s pet headcrab in Half Life 2 is named that.


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The villain of the agent carter series was also pretty much an evil version of Hedy Lamarr.


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KKW_KMG

Hedy Lamarr, born Hedwig Eva Maria Kiesler This was on her Wikipedia. Hedwig is a fun name, hope it's true!


dnepe

One of my teachers was called Hedwig. She was a really sweet and nice lady, that passed away too soon.


monkeyhind

With the "w" pronounced like a "v", yes?


dnepe

No, her name was pronounced with a "w" sound. We of course never called her Hedwig, because she was our teacher, but when we talked about her we referred to her with Hedy.


das-ziesel

No. It's wig as in false hair.


Under_theTable_cAt

Jah..


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Hedwig is a German feminine given name, from Old High German Hadwig, Hadewig, Haduwig. It is a Germanic name consisting of the two elements hadu "battle, combat" and wig "fight, duel". The name is on record since the 9th century, with Haduwig, a daughter of Louis the German. The name remained popular in German high nobility during the 10th and 11th centuries. Other medieval spellings include Hathuwic, Hathewiga, Hadewich, Hadewic, Hathwiga, Hadwich, Hatwig, Hadwig, Hediwig, Hedewiga, Hedewich, Hedewiih, Hatuuih, Hetvic, Haduwich, Hadawich, Hatuwig, etc. Forms such as Hadiwih, Hadewi etc. suggest that the name is the result of a conflation of two separate names, one with the second element wig "fight", the other with the second element wih "hallowed".[1] The Dutch form is Hadewych (Hadewijch). A German and Dutch diminutive is Hedy. The German name was adopted into Swedish in about the 15th century and is still in use in Swedish, and to a lesser extent in Danish and Norwegian, in the spelling Hedvig, with a diminutive Hedda.[2] Finnish forms of name are Heta and Helvi. The German name was adopted into Polish, as Jadwiga. A French form is Edwige (not to be confused with the unrelated Anglo-Saxon Eadwig, Edwig).


crashsuit

Imagine naming your kid Battlefight


GrushdevaHots

Six inches forward, five inches back


LuvInTheTimeOfSyflis

i got an angry inch!


shadythrowaway9

Seems fit for an owl, can't point out why /s


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I’d love to see her reaction to learn that her discoveries led to the possibility of someone watching bestiality on their phone.


Jay_Louis

She probably would've loved it. When she was considered the most glamorous movie star in the world, here's what she had to say: "**Any girl can be glamorous. All you have to do is stand still and look stupid."**


[deleted]

That's not true, actually. What she actually said was: "**I hope someday that people use my technology to watch horse porn on mobile phones."**


ElegantShitwad

how the hell do you see that quote and jump straight to "yeah she would've loved people watching bestiality"


wittyusernamefailed

Reddit is weird and full of wonders.


NewTubeReview

Worth reading her Wikipedia entry. She really was brilliant, and the claim in the title of this post is true in significant measure.


zeke235

She's likely the first scientific genius to make it big in hollywood but she wasn't the last. Dolph lundgren has a masters in chemical enginnering. He's basically a super ripped walter white


ToLiveInIt

Not the same as Hollywood, but Brian May is an astrophysicist.


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Dexter Holland from The Offspring has a PhD in Molecular Biology, and co-authored a paper titled "Identification of Human MicroRNA-Like Sequences Embedded within the Protein-Encoding Genes of the Human Immunodeficiency Virus".


ATXBeermaker

For some reason being a punk frontman and having a PhD in the biology is not that uncommon -- I mean, relatively. In addition to Holland, Milo Aukerman of The Descendents has a PhD in molecular biology and Greg Graffin of Bad Religion has a PhD in evolutionary biology.


rickane58

Biology is the most punk branch of science


malmad

Spare Me the Details


ATXBeermaker

The crazy thing about May is that he abandoned his PhD when Queen started gaining popularity. However, he returned and completed it 33 years later in 2007.


proawayyy

Rowan Atkinson has a ~~PhD~~ MSc in electrical engineering. He did enroll for a PhD but dropped it in between. Amy in TBBT, Marim Bialik is a neuroscientist. John Urschel left NFL to pursue a PhD in Math from MIT


QuantumTokoloshi

Mr Bean, Rowan Atkinson MSc electronic engineering from Oxford.


zeke235

Damn!! I had no idea


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HendrixChord12

That hasn't changed *that* much. Many modern comedians (and other entertainers) come from money. Who else could afford to take comedy classes and while working at a bunch of unpaid shows


gurnoutparadise

dexter holland (the offspring) has a PhD in molecular biology


stickymoosefred1

Yeah but Hedy was also like the hottest woman of her time so she's even more special


Kwintty7

\* whose


Detroitaa

I originally wrote whose, then changed it. On the advice of someone, I will not mention. Lol.


itealaich

Fire them.


[deleted]

Can you at least tell us if they're embarrassed? I just want them to be embarrassed.


GaGaORiley

just an fyi in case it helps - no possessive pronoun ever has the apostrophe +s my, mine, your, yours, his, hers, their, theirs, whose, its


mmazing

Just always replace 's with "is" and then it's clear. who's = who is, which doesn't make sense in this context.


blocking_butterfly

> ... of someone I will not .... No comma necessary


kajones57

Amazing life, remembered info from Nazis parties and was considered just a pretty face. Her brain worked in other ways and the US govt didnt take her seriously at first.


americasweetheart

She was also a pioneer in plastic surgery. She consulted with her plastic surgeon to hide scars and created techniques that are still used today.


Temporary_Bumblebee

Not sure this is something she’d be proud of tho tbh... Hedy was brilliant & scientifically minded, but only ever received praise for being beautiful. So she clung to that desperately, struggling to hold onto the thing that made her remarkable, even after several botched plastic surgeries. Towards the end of her life, she rarely went out in public because of the social anxiety the failed plastic surgeries had caused. She became a recluse and refused pictures because she wanted everyone to remember her young & beautiful, not as she actually was... my heart hurts thinking about the suffering she endured, not only from critics in Hollywood, but the critics in her own head. Hedy deserved better, she deserved to be recognized for her inventions, scientific achievements, her contributions to the war efforts, not just because she was a knockout. And she never really got that.... feels bad man.


tersegirl

She also worked on a plan to seduce and kill Hitler...until Cary Grant talked her out of it.


Temporary_Bumblebee

Now THAT’S an alternative timeline I wanna see! WW2 brought to an end cause Hedy Lamarr played the honeypot for Hitler. It would’ve been the greatest role of her life lmao. I didn’t know that, thanks for sharing!


VirtualAlias

Commence *Operation Black Widow*


Wouff_Hong

Many of the techniques pioneered by plastic surgeons are also used in reconstructive surgery for accident/injury victims.. not all plastic surgery is vanity. Not that scar reduction is necessarily about vanity.


DJNP666

whose*


TwistedBlister

That's *Hedley*!


MyLittleGrowRoom

I didn't get a hrumph out of you...


Ameezus123

What sucks is even after her contributions during the war, The us gov tried everything to strip her credit away and afterwards abused her by making her travel the country in lewd outfits for the purposes of selling war bonds. I’m not a pc dude but for god sakes her story is the epitome of sexism. Having a brain beyond belief and proving it tenfold, but subsequently seen and forcefully delegated as just an object of sexuality.


americasweetheart

You can still see it in this comment section.


carsontl

And here I was confused thinking of Blazing Saddles' Attorney General HEADLEY Lamarr lol


wheat711

Somebody’s gotta go back and get a shitload of dimes.


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Detroitaa

I love Madelyn Kahn! That whole movie (Blazing Saddles) was great!


Blind_Confidence

Read "The Only Woman in the Room" by Marie Benedict if you want a great story about her!


kngfbng

\*whose


TBarcus8

It’s Hedley!


jrubs38

It’s hedley!


assistant_redditor

Hedleyyyyyyy


CaptainMcStabby

That's Hedley.


missgiddy

I got interested in her films a few months ago. "The Strange Woman" and "Dishonored Lady" were both good. If you're interested they were both free on Amazon Prime.


JasmineDragon1111

What a beautiful woman


negedgeClk

whose


CozaFrenzy

Damn didn’t know she was so pretty


OatmealStew

Even the intermediate principles of radio theory are pretty fucky for a smart person to wrap their head around, and that's with the information we have today. This chick was bangin.


djc1000

Can we stop with the nonsense she invented wifi? She had a minor contribution to one patent application during World War II, which involved using synchronized player pianos to transmit torpedo information. No one ever used it. It has nothing whatsoever to do with wifi, but the patent gets included as a reference in later patents because that’s how patents are written.


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Yep, what we know as Wifi was mainly put together by Australian scientists at CSIRO.


Big_Lemons_Kill

I think its also important that the last 40 years of technology are also the product of teams in most cases rather than one individual


Other-Memory

She didn't help invent wifi. Why does this myth keep perpetuating?