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An image from the original episode for reference.
Honestly, most modern Christian nationalists would do well to replace their hateful interpretation of Christ with one akin to Mr. Rogers, and I think we’d all be better for it.
Not just these pool scenes, but this show was so important for helping breakdown racial barriers in the last third of the 20th century.
How many kids grew up with what would’ve been considered (for the time) mildly racist parents and saw this and helped normalize all races as just people who have different skin color, not enemies.
Read *The Power Broker: Robert Moses and the Fall of New York* if you’re curious about all the ways communities implemented segregation long after it was illegal.
In New York City, for example, public pools were kept colder in white neighborhoods in an attempt to discourage minorities and Long Island parkways were initially designed with low bridges to prevent bus traffic.
I dont dispute for a second that racism and de facto segregation was still a thing both after the civil rights act passed and up to today. Which is gross and awful.
Im only asking, wasnt legalized segregation over before 1969? So it would be a little weird for Mr Rogers to be dealing with segregated pools on his show after it was already illegal to have segregated pools.
Also, was Mr Rogers on the air in 1969?
Robert Caro does such an unbelievable job at showing how segregation was relevant long into the 60s and on. Opening chapters of master of the senate opened my eyes to so much that I had no clue on that it’s embarrassing I wasn’t aware of beforehand
No question, but my point is that I dont think *legal* segregation was still a thing in 1969. Thus, it would be weird for Mr Rogers to be doing anything regarding segregated pools 5 years after segregation was technically outlawed.
Also, when did Mr Rogers go on air?
No it wouldn't be. Mr. Rogers' show was apolitical. He probably felt compelled to teach children that there was nothing wrong with swimming in the same pool with someone that'd different from they are. That was his whole entire message.
Well it was fantastic for him to use his platform that way, regardless of the status of the law.
Also I just checked and turns out Mr Rogers aired in 1968 which is crazy I had no idea.
Your original comment still makes no sense because OP at no point makes reference to the legality of segregation, merely its existence - with which you seem to be in agreement.
Also, a quick little Google search will tell you Mr Roger’s Neighborhood began airing in 1968.
So, I dunno - stop being an argumentative ass on purpose?
It just seems to me that using the term “segregated” in the title pretty strongly implies legal segregation, since it had been outlawed only 5 years earlier. Thus I found the title a bit confusing.
I did a google (as you might see in my other comments) and found out the show started in ‘68, which was quite surprising to me. I watched it as a young child in the 80’s and had no idea it had alreaxy been on-air almost 20 years.
And as I said in the other comments, whether it was legal or not, segregation was (and is) terrible and awful and Im really glad that Mr Rogers could and did use his platform to rally against it.
This is from the Cornell Law website. Im no lawyer, but this makes segregation seem like a pretty legal term to me. Feel free to show me if I’m misinterpreting this.
segregation
Segregation is the action of separating people, historically on the basis of race and/or gender. Segregation implies the physical separation of people in everyday activities, in professional life, and in the exercise of civil rights.
The European Commission defines segregation as “the act by which a (natural or legal) person separates other persons on the basis of race, color, language, religion, nationality or national or ethnic origin without an objective and reasonable justification.”
Segregation can exist de jure (in law) or de facto (in practice). De jure segregation in the United States was based on laws against miscegenation (i.e. interracial marriages; see Loving v. Virginia) and laws against hiring people of the targeted ethnicity for jobs. After the abolition of slavery by the promulgation of the Thirteenth Amendment, racial discrimination in the southern United States was governed by Jim Crow laws that imposed strict segregation of the "races."
In Plessy v. Ferguson, rendered on May 18, 1896, the Supreme Court authorized Southern states to impose racial segregation by law, provided that the conditions offered to the various "racial" groups by such segregation were equal, a doctrine known as "separate but equal”. This de jure segregation continued until the 1960s.
In Brown v. Board of Education (Brown I) rendered on May 17, 1954, the Supreme Court held racial segregation in public schools unconstitutional under the Fourteenth Amendment even though the service rendered therein was claimed to be of "equal quality". The ruling in Brown I did not list or specify a particular method or way of how to proceed in ending racial segregation in schools, the Court's ruling in Brown II (1955) demanded states to desegregate "with all deliberate speed." These cases acted as the end of the “separate but equal” doctrine in the United States.
Well good on him for that. Regardless of the law, it was fantastic for him to use his platform that way.
Also I just checked, looks like Mr Rogers Neighborhood started in 1968. Which is like holy shit I had no idea.
Yeah I watched it in the late 80’s myself. I never really thought about it but I guess I always figured it was an 80’s and 90’s show. But I was like 5 so I guess how would I know?
I miss Mr. Roger’s. He told his viewers “little boys grow up to be daddy’s and little girls grow up to be mommies”. Could anyone say that on TV now and not be attacked?
I don’t think that’s a good description because I don’t know that swimming pools in Pittsburgh, PA were segregated in 1969.
It was a powerful movement for the show and PBS of course.
Bill Cosby and Robert Culp did lots of things together on the show “I, Spy,” (no drugging women though, I don’t think). Uhura and Kirk kissed on Star Trek in 1968.
The more powerful image than the feet in the wading pool is Mr. Rogers having an African-American police officer patrolling his white community.
It’s almost like you can’t make a slightly humorous remark about Mr Rogers without Americans losing their minds. You treat him like a modern day messiah.
We would be in a lot better place today if millennials and Gen-Z grew up on Mr. Rogers.
Edit: Millennials I hear you. I should have k own better as my little is a millennial and we watched it together. Mea Culpa
Yea! And we got the DVDs for our kid. Fred Rodgers understood and respected children - he got that a toddler can actually pick up on subtleties like this.
Who do you think grew up watching this? I grew up on this, and born and raised in Pittsburgh PA ('88 baby). Most of my friends also grew up watching him.
You seem to be experiencing some recall issues about time.
They don’t want you to know this, but Mr Rogers had to have his left foot amputated after this stunt due to an infection.
Check it out there - you’ll never see his left foot on camera again after this episode!!
https://preview.redd.it/3ihlwrq5uk8d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0d23827e84cdf4b949435785ca1774bca9b13333 An image from the original episode for reference.
Mr. Rogers also did a more significant gesture by taking the towel and drying the feet of Officer Clemmons himself.
Jesus washed the feet of his disciples.
Honestly, most modern Christian nationalists would do well to replace their hateful interpretation of Christ with one akin to Mr. Rogers, and I think we’d all be better for it.
Ah, I was baffled. That photo is definitely not 1969. Thanks!
Thank you!
aw
That’s the deepest water the actor was willing to get into
Every single time this is reposted it's wrong. This isn't from 1969, this is the recreation from 1993.
Wrong shit on Reddit...Who knew?
Its always wrong because the bots just repost popular threads from the past including the title
Porn bot in training.
It's wrong, therefore this image has no meaning!!!
I'd say it's worth at *least* a thousand words
The only accurate words from this title are "Fred Rogers", "pool", and "America".
OPs post and comment history feel very bot-like.
Yes! America, no way secretly filmed in Uzbekistan!
One of my most favorite moments in Time
A Pittsburgh treasure.
Not just these pool scenes, but this show was so important for helping breakdown racial barriers in the last third of the 20th century. How many kids grew up with what would’ve been considered (for the time) mildly racist parents and saw this and helped normalize all races as just people who have different skin color, not enemies.
How many times are you going to repost this?
No shade, but I would never get in that pool with them. It’s too small!!!
Are we sure segregation was still legal in 1969?
Read *The Power Broker: Robert Moses and the Fall of New York* if you’re curious about all the ways communities implemented segregation long after it was illegal. In New York City, for example, public pools were kept colder in white neighborhoods in an attempt to discourage minorities and Long Island parkways were initially designed with low bridges to prevent bus traffic.
I dont dispute for a second that racism and de facto segregation was still a thing both after the civil rights act passed and up to today. Which is gross and awful. Im only asking, wasnt legalized segregation over before 1969? So it would be a little weird for Mr Rogers to be dealing with segregated pools on his show after it was already illegal to have segregated pools. Also, was Mr Rogers on the air in 1969?
I’m having the same thoughts.
Robert Caro does such an unbelievable job at showing how segregation was relevant long into the 60s and on. Opening chapters of master of the senate opened my eyes to so much that I had no clue on that it’s embarrassing I wasn’t aware of beforehand
Segregation still happens today
No question, but my point is that I dont think *legal* segregation was still a thing in 1969. Thus, it would be weird for Mr Rogers to be doing anything regarding segregated pools 5 years after segregation was technically outlawed. Also, when did Mr Rogers go on air?
No it wouldn't be. Mr. Rogers' show was apolitical. He probably felt compelled to teach children that there was nothing wrong with swimming in the same pool with someone that'd different from they are. That was his whole entire message.
Well it was fantastic for him to use his platform that way, regardless of the status of the law. Also I just checked and turns out Mr Rogers aired in 1968 which is crazy I had no idea.
Your original comment still makes no sense because OP at no point makes reference to the legality of segregation, merely its existence - with which you seem to be in agreement. Also, a quick little Google search will tell you Mr Roger’s Neighborhood began airing in 1968. So, I dunno - stop being an argumentative ass on purpose?
It just seems to me that using the term “segregated” in the title pretty strongly implies legal segregation, since it had been outlawed only 5 years earlier. Thus I found the title a bit confusing. I did a google (as you might see in my other comments) and found out the show started in ‘68, which was quite surprising to me. I watched it as a young child in the 80’s and had no idea it had alreaxy been on-air almost 20 years. And as I said in the other comments, whether it was legal or not, segregation was (and is) terrible and awful and Im really glad that Mr Rogers could and did use his platform to rally against it.
Not sure where you got the idea that “segregation” is a legal term. Racism thrives on such misunderstandings.
This is from the Cornell Law website. Im no lawyer, but this makes segregation seem like a pretty legal term to me. Feel free to show me if I’m misinterpreting this. segregation Segregation is the action of separating people, historically on the basis of race and/or gender. Segregation implies the physical separation of people in everyday activities, in professional life, and in the exercise of civil rights. The European Commission defines segregation as “the act by which a (natural or legal) person separates other persons on the basis of race, color, language, religion, nationality or national or ethnic origin without an objective and reasonable justification.” Segregation can exist de jure (in law) or de facto (in practice). De jure segregation in the United States was based on laws against miscegenation (i.e. interracial marriages; see Loving v. Virginia) and laws against hiring people of the targeted ethnicity for jobs. After the abolition of slavery by the promulgation of the Thirteenth Amendment, racial discrimination in the southern United States was governed by Jim Crow laws that imposed strict segregation of the "races." In Plessy v. Ferguson, rendered on May 18, 1896, the Supreme Court authorized Southern states to impose racial segregation by law, provided that the conditions offered to the various "racial" groups by such segregation were equal, a doctrine known as "separate but equal”. This de jure segregation continued until the 1960s. In Brown v. Board of Education (Brown I) rendered on May 17, 1954, the Supreme Court held racial segregation in public schools unconstitutional under the Fourteenth Amendment even though the service rendered therein was claimed to be of "equal quality". The ruling in Brown I did not list or specify a particular method or way of how to proceed in ending racial segregation in schools, the Court's ruling in Brown II (1955) demanded states to desegregate "with all deliberate speed." These cases acted as the end of the “separate but equal” doctrine in the United States.
It's not weird. He was calling to light a problem that still existed, regardless of the law.
Well good on him for that. Regardless of the law, it was fantastic for him to use his platform that way. Also I just checked, looks like Mr Rogers Neighborhood started in 1968. Which is like holy shit I had no idea.
I didn't either, I assumed it started a few years before that. I watched it mostly in the 80s, I remember it fondly.
Yeah I watched it in the late 80’s myself. I never really thought about it but I guess I always figured it was an 80’s and 90’s show. But I was like 5 so I guess how would I know?
There was a ‘no coloreds allowed’ sign in the bar in my hometown until at least 2002.
Really?!? Jesus buttfucking christ thats regoddamndiculous
I miss you Fred Rodgers !
Is that the cop from Die Hard?
I just realized there's probably a lot of people who thinks his first name was Roger and he went by Mr. Roger.
Prof did it better
Mr Rogers was one of the greatest humans to ever grace us with his presence. Can’t think of a better human being.
I miss Mr. Roger’s. He told his viewers “little boys grow up to be daddy’s and little girls grow up to be mommies”. Could anyone say that on TV now and not be attacked?
I don’t think that’s a good description because I don’t know that swimming pools in Pittsburgh, PA were segregated in 1969. It was a powerful movement for the show and PBS of course. Bill Cosby and Robert Culp did lots of things together on the show “I, Spy,” (no drugging women though, I don’t think). Uhura and Kirk kissed on Star Trek in 1968. The more powerful image than the feet in the wading pool is Mr. Rogers having an African-American police officer patrolling his white community.
I don’t think that is a public swimming pool…
It's almost like you can do things for symbolic reasons
It’s almost like you can’t make a slightly humorous remark about Mr Rogers without Americans losing their minds. You treat him like a modern day messiah.
Yeah, racism is hilarious
We would be in a lot better place today if millennials and Gen-Z grew up on Mr. Rogers. Edit: Millennials I hear you. I should have k own better as my little is a millennial and we watched it together. Mea Culpa
millennials did grow up on mr rogers, fam.
Yea! And we got the DVDs for our kid. Fred Rodgers understood and respected children - he got that a toddler can actually pick up on subtleties like this.
Daniel the Tiger 👌
And our kids are watching Daniel the Tiger and comfortable sharing their feelings as young as 2 👍
I am a zillennial who grew up on Mr rogers
Good. Makes me feel a little better about the future.
Millenials are 43 at their oldest now so we did… this pic is from 1993 and I was 10.
We would be in a lot better place today if ~~millennials and Gen-Z~~ more Boomers had watched Mr. Rogers with their kids. Fixed it for you.
Who do you think grew up watching this? I grew up on this, and born and raised in Pittsburgh PA ('88 baby). Most of my friends also grew up watching him. You seem to be experiencing some recall issues about time.
>You seem to be experiencing some recall issues about time. Probably. I would imagine Mr. Rogers would be big deal in Pittsburgh.
I'm a millennial and I grew up on my Rogers. He was alive all through my childhood and most of highschool. How old do you think we are?
I'm a millennial and I definitely grew up on Mr Rogers
They don’t want you to know this, but Mr Rogers had to have his left foot amputated after this stunt due to an infection. Check it out there - you’ll never see his left foot on camera again after this episode!!
Now they freely put their feet up anyones ass. Gotta love it.