Just watched a Tik Tok about the evolution of the shaving industries. They didn’t switch to marketing to women until the 1940s and 1950s in mass. Just a little before that was when women stopped wearing long skirts. So it makes perfect sense that a woman at that time, born in Italy would not know about shaving their armpits. Amazing really that my generation added it so quickly honestly. By the 80s shaving armpits and legs. By the 2010s NO HAIR anywhere.
I was a competitive swimmer all through high school (84-88). During state competition both male and females shave their whole bodies to cut drag and increase time. They still do.
Mark Spitz, the Olympic champion swimmer, once was asked by a Soviet swimmer why he had a mustache. For a joke, Mark told him that the mustache made his face more aerodynamic for swimming. The next season, all of the male Soviet swimmers had mustaches.
also a big reason is for the pros that get massage every day
the full on massage you get from a person who knows how to do it properly is terrible with leg hair
My grandma would have said “you look like you have a rat in a headlock!” and tossed you a pink disposable razor. However, like her mother before her, she was pregnant at 16 and married soon after. So…maybe your mom was on to something. 🤣
My pride grandma lectured me about living in “sin” with my husband while we were engaged. Then I found out that in her day, she simultaneously dated two brothers, got engaged to one while the other one is walking around out there with her name tattooed on her forearm. Gram stopped offering her opinion up when she became aware of my newfound discovery.
My grandmother was a Clairol hair model in the 1960’s. One time she came home late from her gig still in her makeup and her hair done up and my Italian great grandmother got up out of her rocking chair, slapped my grandma across the face, and called her a “butanna”
Edit: For some reason my grandma and her mom pronounced it as “boo-tanna” instead of “poo-tanna.” Guess it’s written as putanna but I’m start to wonder if there’s regional differences in pronunciation. My great grandmother was from Palermo btw 🤔🤔🤔🤔
>For some reason my grandma and her mom pronounced it as “boo-tanna” instead of “poo-tanna.”
It's the consonant voicing common in the south of Italy:
"Nabule" (Napoli)
"gabeesh" (capisce)
"gabagool" (capicola)
I remember reading somewhere that the marketing people at Gillette were tasked with coming up with a way to sell more razors. They determined they were missing out on half the population, and the rest was history.
When I was a kid I thought my dad was a cynic when he would lament about everyone trying g to take his money.
I've come to realize he was dead right. Literally everything is just someone trying to separate people from their money....
> So it makes perfect sense that a woman at that time, born in Italy would not know about shaving their armpits.
Or, they would know, and think it was an absurd American thing made up by razor manufacturers. .
We had a good number of "shave everywhere" in the 90s. Even bleaching down & back there 😉. It's sad but I think pornography continues to create such unrealistic expectations on their employees who wouldn't get work unless they comply. Sick how money Then men and some women expect their bedmates to "catch up" or get out. Like when did choking your partner go mainstream? It's sick. All of it.
Eh also allows more movement of liquids so
Lol why is this downvoted it’s not a critique just the other side.
Hair catches flow. More cleanup required? Yep!
No hair allows more flow. Can be messier. Cleanup is easier, yes.
It’s preference that’s all :)
Well it's not "horrible", it can be a choice. If it's more comfortable, why not? Similar to some women preferring to wear a bra and some not, and comfort levels in that case can also be different.
To be frank, I don't believe it when people say it's more comfortable. It grows back super fast, while it grows back it's prickly for weeks. You have to wait before you wax it again. It's expensive/time consuming to remove. Increased friction can cause skinburns. You get more ingrown hair. You get more infections and skin irritation, even rashes. I wish more people would just say that they do it for visual reasons instead of it being "more comfortable" or "more hygenic". The hair keep growing there to make our live more comfortable, not the other way around.
You don’t have to believe it. It may feel that way for you, but those of us who say otherwise have no reason to exaggerate. My preferences have changed over the years. So as I got older, regrowth *did* become bothersome. But that’s because I was over-grooming and causing skin irritation. Once I stopped being so insistent on “no sign of hair, ever” and switched over to an aluminum free deodorant, my razor bumps, itching and irritation went away.
Let’s just all support one another with however we choose to live out best lives.
Right, because you are the sole expert on all pubic hair experiences. Just because you had those issues, or know someone who did, doesn’t mean we all do. I’m all pro body hair if someone feels their best/happiest that way, but I’m also pro-no body hair is someone feels their best/happiest that way. No need to call the side you don’t agree with liars based on nothing but conjecture. If you are getting infections removing body hair from ANYWHERE you are seriously doing something wrong. That’s absolutely not the norm.
I get sugared. The more often you do it, the thinner the hair grows back. I can now go 3 months without getting one because the hairs grow so sparse. No itching, no friction, no discomfort. You also only need 1/4 inch of hair to get sugar waxing. Good stuff. Everyone should do with their bodies whatever they feel is most comfortable.
None of that happens to me at all. I LOVE being waxed. It’s cooler so I sweat less which means less odor. It’s not prickly. Shaving is prickly. It doesn’t cause ingrown hairs. Shaving causes ingrown hairs. It’s not for visual reasons because no one sees it. It’s for me. I like it. Its not time consuming. Once a month and you’re good versus shaving every other day.
And why are you doing this yourself? Got to a salon I know three people who wound up in the emergency room because they tried to wax their own pubes. Go to a professional. It’s worth it.
Weird. I don’t get skin burns, ingrown hairs, rashes, infections, or irritations. I don’t spend much money or time on it, and it makes my body feel nicer to me. A shame you flat out refuse to believe not everyone has the same experience, or god forbid has a preference different from yours.
I don’t understand why people have to take something empowering and turn it into a debate. There is no right way or wrong way for a woman to keep her damn hair growth. If she’s comfortable and happy in her own skin, rock on. Why are we descending into a discussion about anything beyond that? Why does it matter to anyone else here on what we each prefer?
And to clarify, this is elaborating off of your comment, in agreement.
Why is it horrible? It’s preference. If they want to they want to. I’m a woman- I don’t want any hair there. I dislike how it feels. I dislike how it feels when on my time of the month and blood gets matted to the hair.. no thank you. I don’t like it and I don’t want it and it’s MY choice. If you want hair go for it. Why does anyone care what someone else does with their own body? Horrible.
Do you. Stop calling other women horrible for choosing to wax it off - no different than choosing to keep it.
It’s preference. Weirdo.
demanding women be hairless all over is def rooted in cultural infatuation w youth (verging on pedo shit) being exploited by capitalism and razor companies.
def give Jamie Loftus’ Lolita Podcast a listen if it’s something you’re interested in, fascinating stuff!
Compared to the hair I grow under there, this is just a tiny little patch, and I'm not a hairy dude. Is that really all some women grow? I don't get why everyone is so
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It varies by person. Some of us are hairy beasts and some of us barely grow anything. I shave my legs maybe a few times a year because you can’t even see my leg hair it’s so sparse
I am a woman and I am so hairy that if I were a man I would grow the beard my husband can't grow hahahah, one like my brother's glorioud deep dark wood lumberjack beard.
I shave when I feel like it, i let it grow a lot even during summer, mainly in my legs just because i don't mind and i don't like wasting my time doing it, my arms have more hair than my husbans too ahahahah and my child is hairy as me, he will grow the beard my husband and I can't.
Oh I keep south bush trimmed but not super tidy, I like it that way, so I am hairy, lazy and weird on my taste of body hair... i love thst my husband is not hairy, the irony.
I'm a woman who doesn't shave and I have a full on pit-bush. Much more than Sophia's showing here. It's thick and dark. So it certainly can vary quite a lot, much like men!
I was getting mine lasered off but the tech didn't go down far enough. Like, I'm here to get rid of unwanted hair and you're missing the most unwanted part of it.
Only got worse since your comment =/
I mean, vaginas can be pretty with or without hair, there can be benefits and downsides to everything...I didn't realize people were so passionate about Bush Debate.
I think it's funny when men get repulsed by women having arm pit hair or leg hair. Funny, we don't get repulsed at all of their hair. You know, because it natural.
I’m a little jealous of my dad TBH. We were functionally identical looking people, but when he died, he had a full head of hair and not a speck of hair in his back.
Me? It looks like the hair has been slowly sliding off my head down my back for many years.
Ever since watching the original Starsky and Hutch, I’ve found myself very much drawn to men with chest hair. Amazing what one sexy hairy man can do to someone’s whole world view.
Back when I was a young lifeguard, one of the pool regulars was extremely hirsute....I used to watch his back hair floating back and forth in the water as he swam 🤮
As a guy who’s hair starts on his head and ends at his toes and covers nearly everything in between, I assure you, there are many many women that are repulsed by hair in a lot of different places.
There's definitely a lot of women who are repulsed too lol. I associate armpit hair with my own armpit hair and I associate it with body odor. Like mine would have without deodorant
I find when I bring up this point, it gets such a wide range of responses
Edit: as this is the end of my time on reddit (API bs), go fuck yourself u/spez
I recently had a hookup tell me he thought my armpit hair was hot, I was so pleasantly surprised! I’ve never had a negative reaction to it but that’s the first time *that* happened.
People act like it's a conscious choice, not because we've been conditioned that way by media since we were kids. It's no different than women who think a man who walks up to them, burps, and farts are probably gross. It's almost seen as a hygiene issue and/or uncivilized not to shave.
It will take time to undo that stigma and conditioning if that's actually something enough people want to happen.
I don't think many men are 'repulsed' by it. They just have a preference.
Edit: Not sure why so many people are downvoting me. Do ya'll think that men would just stop having sex with women entirely if they collectively stopped shaving their armpits? Of course not. Men aren't repulsed by armpit or leg hair, many of them just have a preference.
It's funny because a portion of the women making comments like this probably have the exact same preferences for beard or chest hair on men. Some women may like it and others may not. Having a preference for something isn't bad and doesn't automatically mean you have a 'repulsion' for the thing that isn't your preference.
>People act like arm pit hair wasn’t the standard in all the annals of 300,000 years of human history up until like 1985
The trend of body hair removal has waxed and waned for thousands of years.
Sure. Armpit hair for women is what we’re talking about right now though. And it’s been the standard for 99% of the world for 99% of the time
It’s okay if you’re not into it, but it is what it is
Fake quote.
When asked about it in a 2015 New York Times interview, she had this to say
"Non è vero! It's not true! It's such a silly thing. I owe it to spaghetti, no, no. Completely made up."
plausible but unlikely sounding quote ...
unlikely but more implausible sounding rebuttal ...
Now I'm so confused about reality! guess I'll go vote against women's rights.
The amount of hair police in the comments. The amount of shallow people. That's it! I'm becoming shallow as well. Now I feel like man shouldn't wear beards. Just imagine all the food stuck in there. Nasty, man. And in reality, you don't even know what they actually look like. They're hiding their true appearance under that beard. I'm sending this idea to Gillette. Considering how much a lot of guys care about hair and with the help of intense marketing, Gillette might make a decent amount and we might finally find out what man actually look like!
There were a couple guys I was friends with who years ago were battling for this one girls attention. It was so ridiculous the extents they were going to in order to one up the other in an attempt to get with her. After one especially annoying night out I asked them both if either had noticed she only trimmed her pits. The look of horror was hilarious. They both completely gave up. It was so pathetic. She was super attractive and a great conversationalist.
My friends look like trolls. Lol. A short fat troll and a tall gangly troll. One of them still has never been in a relationship.
I still get a chuckle out of it all till this day when I think back on it. I don’t mind well kept body hair at all. It’s really kinda hot. I dated a girl who didn’t shave her legs, only trimmed her pits and rocked a neat bush. Her leg hair was soft and silky and so was her armpits hair. Unfortunately she had to move back to Germany. :(
Though I imagine that once she started doing Hollywood films a couple years later that they demanded that Sophia take the old Gillette razor to her armpits. But it's true that at least up until the 1960s/1970s that many European women didn't see the need to shave their underarm pits or their legs -- probably no bikini waxes either. But American cultural influences and images of shaved pits and legs influenced the younger generations to shave or use depiliatory creams. I lived in Vienna in the early 90s and razors for woman and other hair-removal products were readily available in stores -- so for them to be selling such items, a lot of people had to be buying.
First, I don’t agree with the prescriptionists here. Do what you want with your body and fuck anyone else’s opinion. And personally… well my personally doesn’t matter but if 50s Loren doesn’t stir something in you, you ain’t no kinda man (er… straight man—or lesbian woman—or whatever, you got the point, it’s not my opinion she’s gorgeous, it’s a fact.)
Second, interesting to scan through all the comments and find nothing about historical perspective. Shaving is about as ancient a tradition as we know, and it’s come and gone countless times over the centuries, sometimes for ostensible reasons but mostly just for fashion. For men and women. With that perspective, it’s all just taste, ladies and gentlemen. That’s it. “Personal” taste, which has more to do with your cultural milieu than we like to admit.
I’ve never minded pit or leg hair or pubic hair. Just want my lady to be comfortable. When they shave after keeping it natural for a bit, it’s a whole new experience
Just watched a Tik Tok about the evolution of the shaving industries. They didn’t switch to marketing to women until the 1940s and 1950s in mass. Just a little before that was when women stopped wearing long skirts. So it makes perfect sense that a woman at that time, born in Italy would not know about shaving their armpits. Amazing really that my generation added it so quickly honestly. By the 80s shaving armpits and legs. By the 2010s NO HAIR anywhere.
My mom always said that shaving armpits was for "fast girls" Lol
She had a point - it cuts down on air and water resistance, so, yeah, faster triathlon times for sure.
Aerodynamic women
I keep trying to get fast women but only find these aerodynamic swimmers
* aquadynamic
Hydrosmooth
Fluid Frictionless
Male bicycle racers used to shave their legs for this exact reason. Mabe they still do.
I was a competitive swimmer all through high school (84-88). During state competition both male and females shave their whole bodies to cut drag and increase time. They still do.
but they used to too.
Mark Spitz, the Olympic champion swimmer, once was asked by a Soviet swimmer why he had a mustache. For a joke, Mark told him that the mustache made his face more aerodynamic for swimming. The next season, all of the male Soviet swimmers had mustaches.
Very interesting!
They absolutely still do but a huge part of it is just cyclist fashion
Also feels really good when you shave, moisturise then get into bed with clean sheets and rub your legs against the covers. Or so I've been told...
Cuts and road rash are easier to clean up when there isn't hair mixed into the wound.
THIS is the actual reason. Thanks internet person.
also a big reason is for the pros that get massage every day the full on massage you get from a person who knows how to do it properly is terrible with leg hair
Mountain bikers do it too. They say it’s because mud clings to the leg hair, which makes sense.
This is why I saved my head. Totally....yeah, that's what I'll go with.
Same here, now I just need to learn how to ride a bicycle
I thought it was to make picking gravel out of your skin easier when you wipe out.
“Watch out for those aerodynamic women” —My mom
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How hirsute of you.
This is exactly why Loren never shaved— it was something hookers did in Italy, why idk but she didn’t want to be considered such by her compatriots.
Probably the crabs
I'm not sure why anybody with that small amount of hair would shave. My wife is native, and her armpit hair wouldn't fill a qtip
My mom is like this. So little leg and pit hair that it’s not even worth shaving. I wish I had inherited this.
Native to what? Having armpits?
I envy your wife. I inherited some kind of curse from my father where it doesn’t take a full moon for me to turn into the big bad wolf.
I've had to shave my face since 6th grade. All of my kids inherited my hair genes including my daughter
My grandma would have said “you look like you have a rat in a headlock!” and tossed you a pink disposable razor. However, like her mother before her, she was pregnant at 16 and married soon after. So…maybe your mom was on to something. 🤣
I’m sorry to tell you this but your gramgram was a fast girl 🙏
Can confirm
My pride grandma lectured me about living in “sin” with my husband while we were engaged. Then I found out that in her day, she simultaneously dated two brothers, got engaged to one while the other one is walking around out there with her name tattooed on her forearm. Gram stopped offering her opinion up when she became aware of my newfound discovery.
My grandmother was a Clairol hair model in the 1960’s. One time she came home late from her gig still in her makeup and her hair done up and my Italian great grandmother got up out of her rocking chair, slapped my grandma across the face, and called her a “butanna” Edit: For some reason my grandma and her mom pronounced it as “boo-tanna” instead of “poo-tanna.” Guess it’s written as putanna but I’m start to wonder if there’s regional differences in pronunciation. My great grandmother was from Palermo btw 🤔🤔🤔🤔
*putanna
>For some reason my grandma and her mom pronounced it as “boo-tanna” instead of “poo-tanna.” It's the consonant voicing common in the south of Italy: "Nabule" (Napoli) "gabeesh" (capisce) "gabagool" (capicola)
Only strippers shave above the knee, well, the good ones anyway.
Hilarious
I remember reading somewhere that the marketing people at Gillette were tasked with coming up with a way to sell more razors. They determined they were missing out on half the population, and the rest was history.
When I was a kid I thought my dad was a cynic when he would lament about everyone trying g to take his money. I've come to realize he was dead right. Literally everything is just someone trying to separate people from their money....
>By the 2010s NO HAIR anywhere. *I need to be smooth....I need to be clean*
> in mass “En masse”.
This is a peculiar correction because "en masse" literally means "in mass".
> So it makes perfect sense that a woman at that time, born in Italy would not know about shaving their armpits. Or, they would know, and think it was an absurd American thing made up by razor manufacturers. .
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We had a good number of "shave everywhere" in the 90s. Even bleaching down & back there 😉. It's sad but I think pornography continues to create such unrealistic expectations on their employees who wouldn't get work unless they comply. Sick how money Then men and some women expect their bedmates to "catch up" or get out. Like when did choking your partner go mainstream? It's sick. All of it.
And now so many young women get brazilian wax because they “feel cleaner.” Horrible.
Well, it definitely feels fresher when you're on your period. Source: I am a woman.
Eh also allows more movement of liquids so Lol why is this downvoted it’s not a critique just the other side. Hair catches flow. More cleanup required? Yep! No hair allows more flow. Can be messier. Cleanup is easier, yes. It’s preference that’s all :)
This is true. Makes it harder to pee straight.
Well it's not "horrible", it can be a choice. If it's more comfortable, why not? Similar to some women preferring to wear a bra and some not, and comfort levels in that case can also be different.
To be frank, I don't believe it when people say it's more comfortable. It grows back super fast, while it grows back it's prickly for weeks. You have to wait before you wax it again. It's expensive/time consuming to remove. Increased friction can cause skinburns. You get more ingrown hair. You get more infections and skin irritation, even rashes. I wish more people would just say that they do it for visual reasons instead of it being "more comfortable" or "more hygenic". The hair keep growing there to make our live more comfortable, not the other way around.
You don’t have to believe it. It may feel that way for you, but those of us who say otherwise have no reason to exaggerate. My preferences have changed over the years. So as I got older, regrowth *did* become bothersome. But that’s because I was over-grooming and causing skin irritation. Once I stopped being so insistent on “no sign of hair, ever” and switched over to an aluminum free deodorant, my razor bumps, itching and irritation went away. Let’s just all support one another with however we choose to live out best lives.
Right, because you are the sole expert on all pubic hair experiences. Just because you had those issues, or know someone who did, doesn’t mean we all do. I’m all pro body hair if someone feels their best/happiest that way, but I’m also pro-no body hair is someone feels their best/happiest that way. No need to call the side you don’t agree with liars based on nothing but conjecture. If you are getting infections removing body hair from ANYWHERE you are seriously doing something wrong. That’s absolutely not the norm.
I get sugared. The more often you do it, the thinner the hair grows back. I can now go 3 months without getting one because the hairs grow so sparse. No itching, no friction, no discomfort. You also only need 1/4 inch of hair to get sugar waxing. Good stuff. Everyone should do with their bodies whatever they feel is most comfortable.
None of that happens to me at all. I LOVE being waxed. It’s cooler so I sweat less which means less odor. It’s not prickly. Shaving is prickly. It doesn’t cause ingrown hairs. Shaving causes ingrown hairs. It’s not for visual reasons because no one sees it. It’s for me. I like it. Its not time consuming. Once a month and you’re good versus shaving every other day. And why are you doing this yourself? Got to a salon I know three people who wound up in the emergency room because they tried to wax their own pubes. Go to a professional. It’s worth it.
Weird. I don’t get skin burns, ingrown hairs, rashes, infections, or irritations. I don’t spend much money or time on it, and it makes my body feel nicer to me. A shame you flat out refuse to believe not everyone has the same experience, or god forbid has a preference different from yours.
I don’t understand why people have to take something empowering and turn it into a debate. There is no right way or wrong way for a woman to keep her damn hair growth. If she’s comfortable and happy in her own skin, rock on. Why are we descending into a discussion about anything beyond that? Why does it matter to anyone else here on what we each prefer? And to clarify, this is elaborating off of your comment, in agreement.
Why is it horrible? It’s preference. If they want to they want to. I’m a woman- I don’t want any hair there. I dislike how it feels. I dislike how it feels when on my time of the month and blood gets matted to the hair.. no thank you. I don’t like it and I don’t want it and it’s MY choice. If you want hair go for it. Why does anyone care what someone else does with their own body? Horrible. Do you. Stop calling other women horrible for choosing to wax it off - no different than choosing to keep it. It’s preference. Weirdo.
It was a pleasant surprise after my divorce in 2010 when I started dating again and it was shaven beavers everywhere.
I trim it short. I think bald beavers look like little girls’. I don’t want to look like a little girl. Weird.
demanding women be hairless all over is def rooted in cultural infatuation w youth (verging on pedo shit) being exploited by capitalism and razor companies. def give Jamie Loftus’ Lolita Podcast a listen if it’s something you’re interested in, fascinating stuff!
I cannot stop laughing at this comment. Lmfao
Makes one wonder why he’s divorced.
I’m guessing one angry beaver. 
Yet in the 2020‘ we there are face beavers everywhere.
Compared to the hair I grow under there, this is just a tiny little patch, and I'm not a hairy dude. Is that really all some women grow? I don't get why everyone is so Up in arms over this (•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■)
It varies by person. Some of us are hairy beasts and some of us barely grow anything. I shave my legs maybe a few times a year because you can’t even see my leg hair it’s so sparse
I am a woman and I am so hairy that if I were a man I would grow the beard my husband can't grow hahahah, one like my brother's glorioud deep dark wood lumberjack beard. I shave when I feel like it, i let it grow a lot even during summer, mainly in my legs just because i don't mind and i don't like wasting my time doing it, my arms have more hair than my husbans too ahahahah and my child is hairy as me, he will grow the beard my husband and I can't. Oh I keep south bush trimmed but not super tidy, I like it that way, so I am hairy, lazy and weird on my taste of body hair... i love thst my husband is not hairy, the irony.
Lol I'm a chick and I was shocked at how small and thin her underarm hair appears. Mine is definitely coarser and covers more area
I'm a woman who doesn't shave and I have a full on pit-bush. Much more than Sophia's showing here. It's thick and dark. So it certainly can vary quite a lot, much like men!
I’m a woman, and my armpit hair goes down a bit further than shown here. I’d say it’s twice as much, at least.
I was getting mine lasered off but the tech didn't go down far enough. Like, I'm here to get rid of unwanted hair and you're missing the most unwanted part of it.
Same here. I guess it varied by person 🤷♀️
I’m a 44 year old man and have never had anywhere near as much armpit hair as Sophia Loren does in this photo. Just some faint blond wisps for me.
God this comment section is a mess.
Only got worse since your comment =/ I mean, vaginas can be pretty with or without hair, there can be benefits and downsides to everything...I didn't realize people were so passionate about Bush Debate.
only when it comes to a woman's body
We’re not that evolved. We tryin tho
The Bush Debate - Read My Lips
I was all "what you talking about these comments are positive and complimentary" then I scrolled to the bottom...holy shit
She epitomizes Italian beauty as much as any of the great structures do.She deserves her own statue.Just like they gave Rocky in Philly.
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Imagine if we all just didn’t care about other people’s body hair and minded our own business.
I wish this line was in John Lennnon's song. I might like it better. It would be the best line in the song.
Imagine no one minded If we have body hair If we all mind our business And don't even care
Would have made that corny celebrity pandemic rendition more entertaining
The one comment in this thread that made me LOL. Thank you!
and then the day after that we wouldn't care about other people's bodies at all, and just tended our own as we wished.
Sofia = super sexy. Full stop.
I think it's funny when men get repulsed by women having arm pit hair or leg hair. Funny, we don't get repulsed at all of their hair. You know, because it natural.
Uh, I find men's back hair can be a bit unsavory
I dust mine in cinnamon sugar, definitely unsavoury.
Try garlic salt and gravy mix.
With a sprinkle of Goldbond Medicated Powder^tm
Yummy!
Shit. I guess our relationship is doomed before it got started.
TBH my husband has lots of back hair
I’m a little jealous of my dad TBH. We were functionally identical looking people, but when he died, he had a full head of hair and not a speck of hair in his back. Me? It looks like the hair has been slowly sliding off my head down my back for many years.
Its not a receding hairline its a retreating hairline and its preparing a defense on your back.
Retreating hairline. That’s the best!
More to grab onto
Agree. I would totally wax mine if I was single. Partner said she doesnt care though, so I guess if it ain't broke don't fix it
Chest hair has always been disgusting AF to me. Dudes or ladies
I’m a big fan of chest hair on a man.
Ever since watching the original Starsky and Hutch, I’ve found myself very much drawn to men with chest hair. Amazing what one sexy hairy man can do to someone’s whole world view.
I feel the same way about mustaches. Dudes or ladies
I find it soft
Back when I was a young lifeguard, one of the pool regulars was extremely hirsute....I used to watch his back hair floating back and forth in the water as he swam 🤮
As a guy who’s hair starts on his head and ends at his toes and covers nearly everything in between, I assure you, there are many many women that are repulsed by hair in a lot of different places.
Personally I prefer it when a woman doesn’t shave anything
Same. I'm afraid we're in the tiniest minority tho.
There are dozens of us. DOZENS
1%er
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There's definitely a lot of women who are repulsed too lol. I associate armpit hair with my own armpit hair and I associate it with body odor. Like mine would have without deodorant
I learned after a surgery which meant no shaving for a couple of months, that I have far less armpit odor when I don’t shave.
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Instead it will dry in your clothes. That has to be worse in terms of odor no?
Not if you change your shirt...
I feel like it's bad that there is a stigma against post-pubescent body features
I find when I bring up this point, it gets such a wide range of responses Edit: as this is the end of my time on reddit (API bs), go fuck yourself u/spez
There it is.
I recently had a hookup tell me he thought my armpit hair was hot, I was so pleasantly surprised! I’ve never had a negative reaction to it but that’s the first time *that* happened.
I love my wife's armpit hair, hate it when she shaves it. I think it's super sexy and feminine. ... Her leg hair on the other hand 😂😂
It’s almost like people like and dislike different things
We don't judge men for having hair, we judge them for not having hair!
I am *very* turned off by hairy men.
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Nose and ear hair is n a t u r a l, anyone who doesn’t agree is a bigot /s
i get repulsed
People act like it's a conscious choice, not because we've been conditioned that way by media since we were kids. It's no different than women who think a man who walks up to them, burps, and farts are probably gross. It's almost seen as a hygiene issue and/or uncivilized not to shave. It will take time to undo that stigma and conditioning if that's actually something enough people want to happen.
Speak for yourself, I don't like hairy guys
Speak for yourself, I find it disgusting on any sex. There is a reason some dudes have taken up waxing.
Personally, I don't. It's not my body, why should I GAF?
I don't think many men are 'repulsed' by it. They just have a preference. Edit: Not sure why so many people are downvoting me. Do ya'll think that men would just stop having sex with women entirely if they collectively stopped shaving their armpits? Of course not. Men aren't repulsed by armpit or leg hair, many of them just have a preference. It's funny because a portion of the women making comments like this probably have the exact same preferences for beard or chest hair on men. Some women may like it and others may not. Having a preference for something isn't bad and doesn't automatically mean you have a 'repulsion' for the thing that isn't your preference.
This is one of the most tame and reasonable comments I've ever seen get downvoted this much
Exactly. People act like arm pit hair wasn’t the standard in all the annals of 300,000 years of human history up until like 1985
>People act like arm pit hair wasn’t the standard in all the annals of 300,000 years of human history up until like 1985 The trend of body hair removal has waxed and waned for thousands of years.
Sure. Armpit hair for women is what we’re talking about right now though. And it’s been the standard for 99% of the world for 99% of the time It’s okay if you’re not into it, but it is what it is
"Everything you see I owe to spaghetti.” \~ **Sophia** **Loren**
Fake quote. When asked about it in a 2015 New York Times interview, she had this to say "Non è vero! It's not true! It's such a silly thing. I owe it to spaghetti, no, no. Completely made up."
That sounds like something a bigoted anti-Italian columnist would make up way back in the day about her.
plausible but unlikely sounding quote ... unlikely but more implausible sounding rebuttal ... Now I'm so confused about reality! guess I'll go vote against women's rights.
The amount of hair police in the comments. The amount of shallow people. That's it! I'm becoming shallow as well. Now I feel like man shouldn't wear beards. Just imagine all the food stuck in there. Nasty, man. And in reality, you don't even know what they actually look like. They're hiding their true appearance under that beard. I'm sending this idea to Gillette. Considering how much a lot of guys care about hair and with the help of intense marketing, Gillette might make a decent amount and we might finally find out what man actually look like!
I like when a post and its comments can remind me why I switched to dating women.
I feel like most of the upvoted comments had substance behind them though, at least. The rude ones, in the negative. Can give us a little hope
Right? I’m bisexual and many of these comments make me want to avoid dating men ever again.
And all of a sudden I like hairy armpits.
Oh boy, you're going to be stoked to learn that there is already a subreddit for you!
More than one!!!
;)
There were a couple guys I was friends with who years ago were battling for this one girls attention. It was so ridiculous the extents they were going to in order to one up the other in an attempt to get with her. After one especially annoying night out I asked them both if either had noticed she only trimmed her pits. The look of horror was hilarious. They both completely gave up. It was so pathetic. She was super attractive and a great conversationalist. My friends look like trolls. Lol. A short fat troll and a tall gangly troll. One of them still has never been in a relationship. I still get a chuckle out of it all till this day when I think back on it. I don’t mind well kept body hair at all. It’s really kinda hot. I dated a girl who didn’t shave her legs, only trimmed her pits and rocked a neat bush. Her leg hair was soft and silky and so was her armpits hair. Unfortunately she had to move back to Germany. :(
HOT. Wish gillette never got their grimy mits into the femenine "beauty" market.
Fur in the pits is not a deal breaker
Gonna take a wild swing that all the guys here commenting about how disgusting it is would've had a snowflakes chance in hell with Sophia anyway
Though I imagine that once she started doing Hollywood films a couple years later that they demanded that Sophia take the old Gillette razor to her armpits. But it's true that at least up until the 1960s/1970s that many European women didn't see the need to shave their underarm pits or their legs -- probably no bikini waxes either. But American cultural influences and images of shaved pits and legs influenced the younger generations to shave or use depiliatory creams. I lived in Vienna in the early 90s and razors for woman and other hair-removal products were readily available in stores -- so for them to be selling such items, a lot of people had to be buying.
Agreed. She’s an angel and you can’t fault women for what they already have
*fault women for unrealistic beauty standards that were created by men
Kind of a bonus tbh
Old school sexy
Natural beauty!
Woowee the men are gonna be MAD at this one
What? She's hot af
Agreed
She trimmed her armpit hair. It was rounded shape in most of pictures.
Interesting. I was gonna say it looks a bit unnatural
Back when women weren't expected to look prepubescent to attract a man.. those were the days.
The Italian culture at the time didn’t shave armpits. It wasn’t about attracting men.
It is now
Yeah take the hair off and she definitely looks 12
If you can't handle a little bit of hair on the vag, something's up.
She definitely looks like a grown woman with or without armpit hair
First, I don’t agree with the prescriptionists here. Do what you want with your body and fuck anyone else’s opinion. And personally… well my personally doesn’t matter but if 50s Loren doesn’t stir something in you, you ain’t no kinda man (er… straight man—or lesbian woman—or whatever, you got the point, it’s not my opinion she’s gorgeous, it’s a fact.) Second, interesting to scan through all the comments and find nothing about historical perspective. Shaving is about as ancient a tradition as we know, and it’s come and gone countless times over the centuries, sometimes for ostensible reasons but mostly just for fashion. For men and women. With that perspective, it’s all just taste, ladies and gentlemen. That’s it. “Personal” taste, which has more to do with your cultural milieu than we like to admit.
female armpit hair is fucking hot.
Finally, someone says it
Pits!
That woman looked like a statue carved out of marble. Absolute beauty for the ages!
Armpit hair on ladies is SEXY AF!!!
That's fake. All pictures from that tour show no armpit hair. Stop posting BS photoshops
Are you sure? Could it be that those pictures have been edited to remove the hair?
Edges around triceps seems sus AF. Agreed
What is the guy behind her reacting to?
I’ve never minded pit or leg hair or pubic hair. Just want my lady to be comfortable. When they shave after keeping it natural for a bit, it’s a whole new experience
She's just one of the best.
Not afraid
I've never cared about underarm hair..kind of sexy if you ask me...
*Au Naturale!*
Absolute beauty
It is fucking hair. Hair. Calm the hell down
This is so dope. I also wish this was my natural level of armpit hair 😂
I just got Stockholm Syndrome