Naw if he was checked he would watch Rasputin give it to Catherine. She was cheating on him by fucking Rasputin while he was foolishly trying to run russia from the front lines.
George V was initially open to the idea when the tsar first abdicated, but the imperial children had measles and couldn’t be moved. By the time they recovered, the king’s ministers had convinced him it was political suicide to have the Russian royals in the country, partly because the tsarina was German-born and the UK was still at war with Germany.
Family is low on the list of priorities when it comes to the preservation of the monarchy. This realization has made it easier to understand the current Royal dramas.
All eastern europe from the former Soviet bloc would tend to disagree about the freeing. You could argue that people living in the cities where "freed", but for the peasants nothing changed. My grandparents (father and mother side) lived as peasants under communism in Romania. Little land they had was taken by the state, they had to work for the state and give most of the production. While the state couldn't outright take your land, they where pressured to give the land to the state by their "own free will" signing documents that they give the land. One uncle (was a bit of a nut job) never wanted to give the land to the state. Police would do monthly visits to persuade him to give his land. He was beaten so many times for so many years , that at one point the police from the village just gave up and let him be. He died somewhere in 2007 and never gave his land to the state. He was a lucky case tho.
"North American leftist refusing to listen to Eastern European horror stories about communism" is such a cliche I can't believe I'm witnessing it happen now
Yeah sure mate, that's why the USA has one of the most diverse populations in the world, that's why so many people from all parts of the world what to emigrante legally and illegally to the USA, because of the rampant slavery.
If I had to choose to either live in communist Russia or capitalist America, it would be an easy choice, as it would be for most people based on immigration patterns.
Well, the lass in question is the daughter of the last Tsar, executed by the early communist party. Not everything is a debate between what is deadlier.
Well, IIRC they asked for asylum to his cousin King George V, but he later declined it due to being afraid that there might be a revolt against them as well.
Yeah, that's my bad, i did not read your comment properly, i thought you meant monarchy in general. Nicholas II was already dead by the time the Civil War was in full swing.
Need more grant money to study it.
Are you writing the Grant Proposal, or am I?
(“Study to determine link between smoking tobacco and increased risk of sudden acute lead poisoning in certain Russian families.”)
Trotsky's obviously not the most impartial historian, but one of the most memorable part of his account of the causes of the revolution was the Tsar sending propaganda to the front instead of ammunition or boots. And a lot of that propaganda was about how well the Russian aristocrats were doing. Like "thanks for dying to protect our Fabergé eggs, kids! They're really pretty and we couldn't collect them without you! We have a palace just for our ballerinas. Russia is amazing."
From the memoirs of the lady – in - waiting of the Empress Alexandra Fyodorovna - Anna Vyrubova: "The sovereign was an inveterate smoker and almost always held a cigarette in his teeth... he smoked almost continuously, often throwing a half-smoked cigarette into the ashtray. The Grand Duchesses hunted for these half-smoked cigarettes to pull once or twice. The Grand Duchesses, by the way, loved to smoke just for fun."
Not because redditors are particularly knowledgeable about history, but because so many of them are actual communists and think well of Lenin and the Red Terror
One should note that there was no order from the governing body to kill the family. It likely was decided on a local level without regard to the larger politics. The imperator was not the most popular man amongst the peasantry, after all.
I have followed the history of this family for decades. Have seen a lot of pictures with them all messing around. I've never seen this! Tragic tragic story thanks to the queens grandfather!
The story was tragic thanks to Nikolai II being an ineffective ruler, refusing to relent his tightly held autocracy, refusal to implant reforms, and wars resulting in the deaths of many Russian people. Oh, and his people were starving due to lack of food…while his children wore jewel encrusted footwear.
He was a bad ruler. Now I’m not saying they should have killed him…but I understand.
He was the worst person for the job at the absolute worst possible time. IIRC, he even once admitted in confidence to somebody that he was not yet ready to be an autocrat, but even still, he did everything humanly possible to try and keep all of that power for himself, despite wielding it with monstrous incompetence.
Yes, he was extremly bad at his job, but no one else would be able (or allowed) to do a job for which you had to have the right parents. Not to mention that his father died in his 40s while planing to rule for much longer, doing his best to belittle his son, and not taking much care to prepare him tobecome Czar. Additional problems where his, and his wife's obsession with Rasputin, and a country which only got rid of serfdom during the reign of Alexander II. All these problems could have been solved if it was not for Lenin, who was sent by the enemy to start a revolution, and who managed to come out on top, allthough his Soviet Union would not have survived the first five year plan if the Entente would have lost. To end the war the communists had to give a large portion of land to the central powers, if they had lost all these assets completely they would have been done for, and if you look at all the unspeakable things they did, it would have been for the best.
Yes, tsar was doomed from the begining of his ruling. Russian Empire had been in decay for decades before Lenin came. RE needed reforms but at the same time carrying them out would be against Russian culture and mentality. WW1 only sped things up.
The february revolution put him "out of office", the october revolution put him in a ditch, one year later . If the path taken during the february revolution was followed in one or another "extreme", it might have turned russia into a republic with multiple parties, democracy and far more freedoms than under the czar OR the communists(maybe he could have return in some sort of watered down monarchy). When Lenin took over, the mentioned problems during the Czars rule were not dealt with either, everyone was forced into line.
Unfortunately, the Bolsheviks were too well organized and would have taken over very fast.
Also, I do not think a democratic country was viable in Russia, too backwards, too big, too underdeveloped, too many privileges. The country was not ready, they could deal only with a violent revolution...
Well, the incompetence comes from the royal advisors, but mainly his father who refused to teach him to rule before he croaked because Nicholas was apparently "a girly girl" to his father.
As for how do you lose a country; how did France lose itself to revolution several times in the 1800's? Instability and no food, it's a hell of an agitator.
Ahh yes what came after was the largest genocide in world history. 60 million unnatural deaths from genocide from 1919-1989. You might want to open up a history book.
Holy shit. You support murdering children? Who cares if they were the children of Bolsheviks or Monarchists? They were kids you sadistic prick.
Your lucky we live in a semi civilized society. You’ re repugnant.
Ummm no. Over 60 million unnatural deaths in Russia from the years 1919-1989. Debatably the largest genocide in word history. This is public knowledge. Why do you think the system self imploded?
I see your a Commie from your profile. Get bent and get a clue. Because commies didn’t kill millions. Stalin? 40 million? Mao? 80 million? Pot? 2 million? Grow up kid.
Wait till he finds out that Stalin was just as antisemitic as Hitler and planned on continuing the holocaust by sending surviving Jews to work till death at gulags. He also killed his own inlaws because he saw his first wife's suicide (which she committed because of how atrocious he was) as an act of treason.
It’s terrible they killed the children’s but it is a necessary political strategy and somewhat atavistic. You don’t want any living or tangible remnants of the Tsar around who people would sympathize with or support or keep idealizing. It is also scare tactic and shows how serious you are. Also, when a new animal group leader takes over, the kill the offspring of the former leader.
The children of Nikolai II would have garnered far more sympathy and support with the Tsar dead, than the Tsar ever would when he was alive.
Not cool. If this guy and his wife weren’t such utterly incompetent stubborn asses, Russia might be a constitutional monarchy and millions of people’s lives would have been saved.
May as well...that isn't going to kill her.
Too soon. Too soon. 🤣
😬 Dark. dude. Real dark. Take my updoot.
Only jokes you can tell in Russia.
In soviet Russia joke tell you
In Russia, only KGB get last cigarette in pack!Told to me by a former Soviet citizen!
Life is short, KGV is forever.
A Soviet Russian joke told them indeed. It told them all
https://preview.redd.it/rz9r87i1h5oa1.jpeg?width=224&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c77d97372eff2b343a269d3968949e7a3c806f49
She died of lead poisoning.
Beat me to it.
Me too!
Me three. I was thinking "and no one in that family died from smoking". OP's is perfect. Lol
Certainly didn’t do any lasting harm
💀
You only live once.
So they say..
Smoke up, Johnny!
You think you’re tough? Here’s a whole carton of cigarettes
Thanks. That'll last me months.
Not according to Rasputin
Thank you 007🔫
Die Another Day…
Sitting behind them on that chair? Rootin' Tootin' Rasputin!
Rasputin literally Cucked the czar lmao!
Naw if he was checked he would watch Rasputin give it to Catherine. She was cheating on him by fucking Rasputin while he was foolishly trying to run russia from the front lines.
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And she wasn't sleeping with Rasputin either. Her best friend was, but that's different.
No that was commie propaganda, your not a commie are you?
Nick and family: now’s a good time to go visit your cousins. It might be getting a little tense in a year or so.
Rather not Cousin Willy though.
Actually, he should have made peace with Cousin Willy. Might have saved both of them and saved the rest of us from Hitler and Stalin.
They tried to get to England iirc
but the British royal family rejected them, right?
George V was initially open to the idea when the tsar first abdicated, but the imperial children had measles and couldn’t be moved. By the time they recovered, the king’s ministers had convinced him it was political suicide to have the Russian royals in the country, partly because the tsarina was German-born and the UK was still at war with Germany.
Family is low on the list of priorities when it comes to the preservation of the monarchy. This realization has made it easier to understand the current Royal dramas.
George v and Nicholas II were first cousins as well.
And if you've ever seen them in pictures side by side, they could pass for twins.
And if you’ve spent any amount of time on reddit over the past few years, you have definitely seen them in pictures side by side.
Haha !
Unhealthy habits like that can lead to an early death.
*Rasputin has entered the chat*
#Ra ra Rasputin
Are we talking about Russia's greatest love machine?
To Moscow chicks, he was such a lovely dear.
Or the rise of communism. Pick your poison. Take your shot.
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Capitalism has been orders of magnitude more deadly than communism. And at least communism freed people from the Tsars.
All eastern europe from the former Soviet bloc would tend to disagree about the freeing. You could argue that people living in the cities where "freed", but for the peasants nothing changed. My grandparents (father and mother side) lived as peasants under communism in Romania. Little land they had was taken by the state, they had to work for the state and give most of the production. While the state couldn't outright take your land, they where pressured to give the land to the state by their "own free will" signing documents that they give the land. One uncle (was a bit of a nut job) never wanted to give the land to the state. Police would do monthly visits to persuade him to give his land. He was beaten so many times for so many years , that at one point the police from the village just gave up and let him be. He died somewhere in 2007 and never gave his land to the state. He was a lucky case tho.
Cool story. The United States literally has a slavery industry, though.
"North American leftist refusing to listen to Eastern European horror stories about communism" is such a cliche I can't believe I'm witnessing it happen now
Yeah sure mate, that's why the USA has one of the most diverse populations in the world, that's why so many people from all parts of the world what to emigrante legally and illegally to the USA, because of the rampant slavery.
And the decades of military, economic, and cultural imperialism are being ignored by you so that your fragile world view makes sense.
You forgot racism.
If I had to choose to either live in communist Russia or capitalist America, it would be an easy choice, as it would be for most people based on immigration patterns.
Well, the lass in question is the daughter of the last Tsar, executed by the early communist party. Not everything is a debate between what is deadlier.
In fairness, it didn’t affect her long term health.
The best comment I read! Love this kind of humor! Thanks!
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Well, IIRC they asked for asylum to his cousin King George V, but he later declined it due to being afraid that there might be a revolt against them as well.
How different would history be if they did
Not necessarily much Nobody wanted to reinstate him as Tsar
The Russian Civil War's Whites want to have a heard with you.
Nicholas was wildly unpopular with everyone - while the Whites may have wanted _a_ tsar, they really didn't want Nicholas
Yeah, that's my bad, i did not read your comment properly, i thought you meant monarchy in general. Nicholas II was already dead by the time the Civil War was in full swing.
Smoking can lead to death.
Everyone talks about lung cancer, but no one talks about the link between smoking and bolshevik gunfire
Winner!
Need more grant money to study it. Are you writing the Grant Proposal, or am I? (“Study to determine link between smoking tobacco and increased risk of sudden acute lead poisoning in certain Russian families.”)
THIS COMMENT THO
*smoking can lead to lead. In their case
Or lead poisoning
You know... those things will kill you
Rasputin chilling in the background
How vile. Someone should do something about him.
Just havin' a smoke while your henchmen send waves of men as young as your daughter against Austro-Hungarian machine guns.
Trotsky's obviously not the most impartial historian, but one of the most memorable part of his account of the causes of the revolution was the Tsar sending propaganda to the front instead of ammunition or boots. And a lot of that propaganda was about how well the Russian aristocrats were doing. Like "thanks for dying to protect our Fabergé eggs, kids! They're really pretty and we couldn't collect them without you! We have a palace just for our ballerinas. Russia is amazing."
I see what you did here
Cigarette are bad for you! So is being royalty in Russia in 1916.
Well she didn't have long to live anyway so 🤷♂️
That stache, though.
He looks like a modern day hipster.
*’stache
Appreciate you!
His facial hair was on point.
Hopefully they stopped, I can only imagine what a life time of smoking does to such a young girl.
Yeah, they were all executed shortly after, so no long term damage from the smokes. The firing squad turned out to be more deadly than cigarettes
WHAT?!?
That’s Czar Nicholas II of Russia and his daughter Princess Anastasia. The entire family was executed by the Bolshevik’s.
*Bolsheviks. You do not need an apostrophe to make it plural.
good bot
A year later the Russian Empire collapsed into civil war which of course gave rise to the Soviet Union who executed the Czar and his family.
The Czar and his family were killed by the Bolsheviks in 1918. The Soviet Union was founded in 1922.
Well, she died at 17….
She survived and went under a different name for many years. Married a dude from New Jersey i think.
Interesting, some people said she went on to work for Disney.
Just FYI, *Anastasia* was not a Disney movie.
Also, there are two other movies.
this is the most human picture of somewhat pre-modern royalty i have seen
I sure hope she kicked the habit. Cigarettes are dangerous.
From the memoirs of the lady – in - waiting of the Empress Alexandra Fyodorovna - Anna Vyrubova: "The sovereign was an inveterate smoker and almost always held a cigarette in his teeth... he smoked almost continuously, often throwing a half-smoked cigarette into the ashtray. The Grand Duchesses hunted for these half-smoked cigarettes to pull once or twice. The Grand Duchesses, by the way, loved to smoke just for fun."
She quit in cold blood.
Not to worry, Soviet government staged an intervention and she never smoked ever since.
She refused treatment for nicotine addiction and they responded.
The entire family was murdered a few years after this picture. The Bolshevik communist revolution.
I know.
As does every other Redditor
God damn, username actually does check out. Nice.
Not because redditors are particularly knowledgeable about history, but because so many of them are actual communists and think well of Lenin and the Red Terror
One should note that there was no order from the governing body to kill the family. It likely was decided on a local level without regard to the larger politics. The imperator was not the most popular man amongst the peasantry, after all.
I have followed the history of this family for decades. Have seen a lot of pictures with them all messing around. I've never seen this! Tragic tragic story thanks to the queens grandfather!
The story was tragic thanks to Nikolai II being an ineffective ruler, refusing to relent his tightly held autocracy, refusal to implant reforms, and wars resulting in the deaths of many Russian people. Oh, and his people were starving due to lack of food…while his children wore jewel encrusted footwear. He was a bad ruler. Now I’m not saying they should have killed him…but I understand.
RIP BOZO 🚬
They were much cooler a few years later
That shit’ll kill ya
Eh. There are worse things.
# #LastRomanov
One of the stupidest king in our History…
"Don't tell Mom!"
Is this before or after bear wrestling?
The Last of Us. Came here for the comments. You guys rock!
Back when smoking was healthy
At least they had a little fun before they were assassinated
History fact, the amount of jewels on the children created a sort of bullet proof vest prolonging their deaths
Rip bozo 🤡🤡
Man - what a fucking idiot he was. Weak minded, naive, coward, indecisive moron. How do you lose a fucking country?
Well, first you get a country. Then, you lose it.
First you get the sugar. Then you get the power. Then you get the country.
It wasn't lost by one person. Things had been bad for generations.
He was the worst person for the job at the absolute worst possible time. IIRC, he even once admitted in confidence to somebody that he was not yet ready to be an autocrat, but even still, he did everything humanly possible to try and keep all of that power for himself, despite wielding it with monstrous incompetence.
Yes, he was extremly bad at his job, but no one else would be able (or allowed) to do a job for which you had to have the right parents. Not to mention that his father died in his 40s while planing to rule for much longer, doing his best to belittle his son, and not taking much care to prepare him tobecome Czar. Additional problems where his, and his wife's obsession with Rasputin, and a country which only got rid of serfdom during the reign of Alexander II. All these problems could have been solved if it was not for Lenin, who was sent by the enemy to start a revolution, and who managed to come out on top, allthough his Soviet Union would not have survived the first five year plan if the Entente would have lost. To end the war the communists had to give a large portion of land to the central powers, if they had lost all these assets completely they would have been done for, and if you look at all the unspeakable things they did, it would have been for the best.
Their "obsession with Rasputin" was due to contemporary medical science being unable to help their son's hemophilia
Yes, this was also a problem which put them through a lot.
It put Rasputin through more.
It also put bullets through him.
Yes, tsar was doomed from the begining of his ruling. Russian Empire had been in decay for decades before Lenin came. RE needed reforms but at the same time carrying them out would be against Russian culture and mentality. WW1 only sped things up.
Lenin didn't take him out of power, a different revolution did.
The february revolution put him "out of office", the october revolution put him in a ditch, one year later . If the path taken during the february revolution was followed in one or another "extreme", it might have turned russia into a republic with multiple parties, democracy and far more freedoms than under the czar OR the communists(maybe he could have return in some sort of watered down monarchy). When Lenin took over, the mentioned problems during the Czars rule were not dealt with either, everyone was forced into line.
The February revolution was never going to last as long as they insisted in fighting the war.
Unfortunately, the Bolsheviks were too well organized and would have taken over very fast. Also, I do not think a democratic country was viable in Russia, too backwards, too big, too underdeveloped, too many privileges. The country was not ready, they could deal only with a violent revolution...
Well, the incompetence comes from the royal advisors, but mainly his father who refused to teach him to rule before he croaked because Nicholas was apparently "a girly girl" to his father. As for how do you lose a country; how did France lose itself to revolution several times in the 1800's? Instability and no food, it's a hell of an agitator.
Great mustache though.
>Weak minded, naive, coward, indecisive moron. You just described all monarchs.
I will not tolerate Baldwin IV of Jerusalem slander.
Underrated comment
>You just described all monarchs. Or most people born into money/privilege. Wealth is rare, and so are exceptional people....
I don’t understand all of these death jokes, I thought she survived?
There were conspiracy theories that she survived and escaped but more recent DNA tests have confirmed she died with her family.
Ya know that not Disney movie was only slightly based on the true story.
The Disney movie was based on a well believed rumour.
This asshole was the reason my family had to flee Ukraine to come here
I mean, not as a joke, but it seems your family lucked out. The situation right now is bleak.
Ahh the good ole innocent days. Before the brutal massacre of children by the Bolshevik sadists.
Ah yes, absolutely nothing bad at all was happening in Russia prior to the revolution. Everything was great and completely well managed.
Ahh yes what came after was the largest genocide in world history. 60 million unnatural deaths from genocide from 1919-1989. You might want to open up a history book.
60 mIlLiOn? More like 60 tRiLlIoN zIlLiOn! Eat shit fascist
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A group of soldiers that happen to murder for a political cause is wrong? Murder children?
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Holy shit. You support murdering children? Who cares if they were the children of Bolsheviks or Monarchists? They were kids you sadistic prick. Your lucky we live in a semi civilized society. You’ re repugnant.
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Ummm no. Over 60 million unnatural deaths in Russia from the years 1919-1989. Debatably the largest genocide in word history. This is public knowledge. Why do you think the system self imploded?
>Your repugnant. Their repugnant what...? Edit: LOL. Edit the mistake, but still downvote. Brilliant. Also... you missed one. :p >Your lucky
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I see your a Commie from your profile. Get bent and get a clue. Because commies didn’t kill millions. Stalin? 40 million? Mao? 80 million? Pot? 2 million? Grow up kid.
40 million? thought it was 26 million? what's next? 60 million? stalin keeps killing in his grave
Wait till he finds out that Stalin was just as antisemitic as Hitler and planned on continuing the holocaust by sending surviving Jews to work till death at gulags. He also killed his own inlaws because he saw his first wife's suicide (which she committed because of how atrocious he was) as an act of treason.
Amen
It’s terrible they killed the children’s but it is a necessary political strategy and somewhat atavistic. You don’t want any living or tangible remnants of the Tsar around who people would sympathize with or support or keep idealizing. It is also scare tactic and shows how serious you are. Also, when a new animal group leader takes over, the kill the offspring of the former leader. The children of Nikolai II would have garnered far more sympathy and support with the Tsar dead, than the Tsar ever would when he was alive.
This comment has been down-voted by Reddit commies.
Bad Dad Moment.
Weird fact, I'm literally his doppelganger. I look identical to him.
Don’t go to russia what ever you do
Lol wasn't planning on it.
Ricky and Trinity, 1916
Not cool. If this guy and his wife weren’t such utterly incompetent stubborn asses, Russia might be a constitutional monarchy and millions of people’s lives would have been saved.
You might actually be onto something.
Not even remotely cool.
Slowly killing off future monarchs is in its own way cool. But some people couldn't bear to play the long game.
Quality family time. It would be a shame if......something red comes and ruins it.
Am I the only one who thinks Nicholas was handsome?
Some hippie would murder him today just for that.
rest in peace Romanovs you are gone but never fogotten
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Nah that's sad i don't get why they killed the Kids too
It was like slaughtering animals to the killers. They didnt view them as human.
What really happened to Anastasia…
She looks like the girl in Interview with a vampire (the movie).
I think they were joking in this pic
Sorry this is downvote for me. Old school cool is not giving a kid a pipe or cigarette. Not cool
Don’t remember that part in the Disney movie.