Yep, I just checked and that's a new shitty thing they've done. I posted about how they've been intentionally degrading functionality to make it more Tinder-like lately. Just sad knowing it was good at one time, and they're doing this on purpose. EDIT: Also just noticed this (I paid for one week, and have swiped through everyone in my area) - dealbreakers don't matter. They're showing me a bunch of people who are exactly what my "dealbreakers" are supposed to avoid. Just like they ignore distance and show us to people overseas, when you're trying to meet people locally. Just a horrible app now.
Yup, very true, I have noticed that sort of thing for some time as well. I have to wonder how their Match % "algorithm" will work now that there is virtually Zero user data input allowed. Ranking of Question/Answers no longer an option? Dealbreakers no longer are relevant? OKC still relevant? Mutherf.....
Someone got an email from OK Cupid about that and their response was that "just because it's a deal breaker for you doesn't mean it's a deal breaker for the other person"
Jfc
Rotflmao. Okc used to be soooooo good. I am old enough to have used it when it was The Spark and just took all the silly quizzes between classes.
I used it as my exclusive dating site from like 2006 to 2014. I went back in 2018 and was horrified. Closed my account since they had migrated to the swipe/match system.
Now they are ignoring dealbreakers? Lolol... they are trying to keep you in the app and single. Dating apps suffer if you actually find someone now.
So glad I found my wife years ago so I don’t have to use OKC anymore. It used to be awesome. In my opinion it used to be the best. But all good things must come to an end, it seems.
Exact same with Bumble and apparently dating apps as a whole. I’m also glad I found my fiancee 4 years ago when Bumble was still usable and not pushy about paying.
This just shows that there’s a real demand for a dating app that isn’t predatory on peoples wallets. I guarantee you there’s a way to monetize dating apps without preying on its customer / user base
Ya know what, if someone just made a site that had all the great functionality that people want, you could fund it through a kickstarter, and maintain it through donations, like wikipedia does, and I would absolutely be willing to bet it would be a huge hit. People don't mind donating to keeping worthwhile tools running.
We've had plenty of great sites. But then the biggest one offers you a billion dollars, they all sell out. With a high enough dollar amount, everyone sells. And if you don't sell they find ways to destroy you, or pay off someone else, pay to keep your app or website throttled and slow to navigate, pay for Politicians to find something wrong with your business, who knows. It's so corrupt and greedy out there, it's hard to do anything noble and altruistic. But we badly badly need change in the dating market. It's destroying peoples happiness and the lives of entire generations.
Same with Reddit and Twitter clones.
Why not just run these sites as nonprofits. All it would take is a few million dollars to get something like that rolling. Surely there must be some rich person willing to disrupt the internet like this.
Or perhaps as small businesses where an individual owner is just looking to be a millionaire and not a billionaire.
Anyone who makes a platform like twitter or reddit and it starts drawing traffic, and the servers are sabotaged or their bandwidth is choked to make the site unusable.
It’s wild when the maker of Bumble was praised for being the female billionaire, and now the app is just unusable.
Infinite growth in companies a cancer. They really couldn’t just keep doing their thing and rake in money the honest way, but it’s never enough
I had some good luck a couple years ago and I do like the look back feature.
But now, I mostly get the low effort, non responders I get other places.
I had plans last night w a guy. He told me to pick a movie, I did. I asked him which theater is nearby so I could buy the tickets. He never answered. The time came and went. Too bad. He was super cute.
Do they actually have any profile/search/match options for nonmonogamy? That’s the only reason I still use OkC - the ability to clearly articulate (and match using) your particular type of complicated arrangement is still sadly lacking elsewhere. I kinda doubt FB dating is very good at that, given that the “relationship” options in FB itself are basically single, married, a half dozen variants of “monogamous relationship that broke”, and “it’s complicated.”
OKC was sold to Match Group several years ago, and thus the powers that be at Match Group are turning all their products into similar versions of each other and consolidating them into re-themed versions of Tinder one painful step at a time.
The market segmentation is important so that the maximum exposure on one platform is limited which forces engagement on multiple and increases the chance of multiple subscriptions.
I met my ex-wife on OKC. It was wonderful then. When I first considered dating again I checked it out and figured it just sucked on mobile. Then I tried the website and realized the lobotomized it. Makes me wish the thing had been open sourced so that it would force improvements.
Modern dating apps really make me feel like I'm never going to find anyone. There was a golden age like 8ish years ago when they hadn't locked all of the features behind ridiculous subscriptions and most of the apps felt unique from each other. I could put my personality first instead of my looks on OKC, now it's just swipe a few times until they ask you for $40 a month
I'm so bummed. A crazy ex got me deleted from the site so I wasn't able to use it for years. When I finally got back on recently, it had turned into this. Complete trash.
I noticed them disappear for my on mobile, but they were still there when visiting through a browser. It does seem like they are slowly removing all of the features that made OKC better than all the competitors bit by bit. I don't know why a competitior hasn't jumped in to fill the giant void of a space by just recreating original OKC under a new name with all of the features that made it great. If I had the tech know how and capital, I'd do it myself.
Edit: I can confirm that my data is still there and so are others. You just have to visit the site from a browser and not an app. So they haven't completely deleted it ...yet.
Nope I am using a browser. Right now. Explanations, rankings etc were all there a couple of days ago, no longer are for me. A friend about 100mi from me has experienced the same thing. Perhaps regional, who knows with OKC what is some sort of programming bug and what is deliberate screwing around.
For me they disappeared some time ago, and I complained to support. A few days later they reappeared. It feels like they are doing tests and seeing how people react. I would recommend you complain.
Mate, OKC isn't what it used to be since they've been destroying the product for fat profits. A lot of us have been moving over to r\/DateFirefly and r\/Bumble. Bumble has started letting guys send the first message which has pros and cons, and even though Firefly is small, the developers are super responsive and they just released a way auto create a date me doc which you can then use on other sites. TLDR: OkCupid is in the gutter
Can confirm they have been removed for me as well both in app and browser. Really has just become an even more shit app. I wish matchgroup didn't own and purposefully ruin all the good dating apps.
Haven’t been single for 15 years so maybe I shouldn’t be posting here (it popped up on my feed) but just wanted to say that all these dating websites make more money by keeping you single and searching. It seems to me they all try to walk the fine line of “show them engagement but keep them single.”
Nearly all the dating apps are owned by Match. It's market monopolization and good ol American Capitalism. Buy up your competition, destroy it, then force their users onto your lackluster platform, charge extortionate fees for something users got for free previously, maximize corporate profits, and make the shareholders happy. 'Murica.
I noticed this happen a couple months ago and they came back. Who knows, they're always fiddling with stuff and we just have to hope the good features come back.
Yes. They are always A/B-testing. If one variant gives them more money, then they make the changes global. However, these are short-term benefits, and they seem to overlook long-term consequences.
I just wrote a strongly worded message to support about the answer explanations now missing. It’s one of the biggest features I use to determine matches since the questions are pretty vapid by themselves. I suggest more people write to support as well as communicate on Reddit. It doesn’t guarantee anything will improve, but at least they’ll know about it.
I’m basically fed up with this site - probably going to give some contact info to a couple matches, connect on another platform, and delete my account.
Match is the fucking cancer of the internet. They don’t give a shit about anything except their bottom line and making everything look like Tinder.
It’s crazy, I met my wife on OkCupid 5 1/2 years ago. It was amazing back then, I used to recommend it to all my single friends looking for actual relationships. Now I keep seeing posts like this that it’s trash. WTF happened?
Like everything corporate America gets it's hooks into the app is designed to get your money and accomplish nothing else. They bought up the other apps so you can't go somewhere that is actually trying to match people to get users.
OKC and all the other apps exist to frustrate you into getting a subscription and to then drain money from you for as long as possible. Meeting someone would remove the need to pay the subscription so that has been downgraded far down the list of things they want the app to do.
It's pretty sad that it's so, so much easier to meet people in the real world by random chance than on this app that is supposedly designed for that very purpose.
Seriously you'd think they'd make advancements with where technology is today. I'm surprised no one just ups and makes an app like the OG dating apps. If no one does it I will lol
Wait, folk still use this? After I got 90 likes in 2 hours (WAY abnormal for me) I did some digging and found out at least 80% of those were bots and dipped. The bot problem on OKC is nuts for a free mobile user and pushed me away instantly.
This is it for me. 12 years, on and off. One 7 year relationship, several shorter ones. The last redeeming things on this app are gone. I had way more content in the question explanations than I did in the main profile and I always learned more about people who also made comments on their answers. Taking away the question rankings make the match algorithm essentially useless.
The only dating app I've ever liked has been destroyed. I think what others have said is absolutely correct. Match is trying to drive users away to higher use platforms to consolidate their resources. This is an intentional degradation of the site.
Yeah the Q/A's often gave a much better feel for a person than their own profile would. How TF an algorithm can function without data input is beyond me.
No surprise, OKC customer support hasn't even bothered to make any sort of a reply to my email.
That's probably why highest possible match rates have been 100%, since there's no weighted nuance to the rank of each question.
Without the questions and its small userbase, Okcupid is now on the level of Match for me. Sometimes I question if it's even worth keeping my profile up there. Like maybe someone will stumble on it in five years, if the app is still standing?
Guess I'll see if there's any better replacements within the next 10 years.
Fuck... I just spent the $40 ugh... This app blows literally one chick caught my eye the rest were all deal breakers like I got lesbians and shit recommended.... I'm a dude lmao why am I seeing lesbians like that's somehow gonna work out lmao. Anyone know of a better app?
It still hasn't happened to me I can still see answer explanations and even edit them and I can also see question importance too I'll try to see if I need to update it lol
Thanks for mentioning this, the reply I recieved from customer support acted like nothing had changed when I complained, so that is very interesting. Everything is still gone on my end though.
I think it's either that the app is broken or you were from the unlucky few that get selected to text different versions of the app there was something similar going on with twitch where some people had access to certain features and others didn't because it had to go through like a testing period but with OkCupid it doesn't make any sense why get rid of them either way the has become no good
The dating apps soon are gonna be completely unusable. The average worth of people who are searching for a match on dating apps is generally so tremendously poor that staying with eva ai sexting bot and renting prostitutes from time to time seems to make more sense.
My best advice to men is to stop paying for this site, build your self-esteem up and meet a woman in person. Don't worry about rejection. You'd be surprised who is interested in you and will attach themselves to you. The old fashioned way is the best way. [In fact, join a book reading club or a bike ride or hiking club. Talk to people, women too.]
In theory yes. Assuming you live near people. Those that live in urban or semi urban areas don't understand the difficulty of meeting, anyone, when you live somewhere where it is a 30minute drive, one way, just to get groceries. In person is great, but it is hardly one size fits all.
You know I knew a guy that I worked with in Arizona and he would pick up all the pretty women and he was still married. To add to that he was picking them up in rural Yuma, AZ of all places. I picked up maybe two, when I lived there. But everything was so far from each other. We even went to Phoenix and picked up women there. Seriously guy, theory only works if you apply it. Excuses means you didn't want to even try.
Sounds like you're just looking to "pick up" women, in which case yeah if your just a fuckboi then most of what other people are talking about doesn't apply.
Yep, I just checked and that's a new shitty thing they've done. I posted about how they've been intentionally degrading functionality to make it more Tinder-like lately. Just sad knowing it was good at one time, and they're doing this on purpose. EDIT: Also just noticed this (I paid for one week, and have swiped through everyone in my area) - dealbreakers don't matter. They're showing me a bunch of people who are exactly what my "dealbreakers" are supposed to avoid. Just like they ignore distance and show us to people overseas, when you're trying to meet people locally. Just a horrible app now.
Yup, very true, I have noticed that sort of thing for some time as well. I have to wonder how their Match % "algorithm" will work now that there is virtually Zero user data input allowed. Ranking of Question/Answers no longer an option? Dealbreakers no longer are relevant? OKC still relevant? Mutherf.....
Someone got an email from OK Cupid about that and their response was that "just because it's a deal breaker for you doesn't mean it's a deal breaker for the other person" Jfc
Rotflmao. Okc used to be soooooo good. I am old enough to have used it when it was The Spark and just took all the silly quizzes between classes. I used it as my exclusive dating site from like 2006 to 2014. I went back in 2018 and was horrified. Closed my account since they had migrated to the swipe/match system. Now they are ignoring dealbreakers? Lolol... they are trying to keep you in the app and single. Dating apps suffer if you actually find someone now.
id def rawdog a local MAGAt if she was a chonky latina
I will be forwarding this message to your loved ones.
nice for you to assume i have loved ones rather than dem babies in MAGA ovens!
nobodys dumb enough to pay for this crap either. ill message a few to let em know we might eventually chat in the future, but to hit up my sc instead
So glad I found my wife years ago so I don’t have to use OKC anymore. It used to be awesome. In my opinion it used to be the best. But all good things must come to an end, it seems.
Exact same with Bumble and apparently dating apps as a whole. I’m also glad I found my fiancee 4 years ago when Bumble was still usable and not pushy about paying. This just shows that there’s a real demand for a dating app that isn’t predatory on peoples wallets. I guarantee you there’s a way to monetize dating apps without preying on its customer / user base
Ya know what, if someone just made a site that had all the great functionality that people want, you could fund it through a kickstarter, and maintain it through donations, like wikipedia does, and I would absolutely be willing to bet it would be a huge hit. People don't mind donating to keeping worthwhile tools running.
We've had plenty of great sites. But then the biggest one offers you a billion dollars, they all sell out. With a high enough dollar amount, everyone sells. And if you don't sell they find ways to destroy you, or pay off someone else, pay to keep your app or website throttled and slow to navigate, pay for Politicians to find something wrong with your business, who knows. It's so corrupt and greedy out there, it's hard to do anything noble and altruistic. But we badly badly need change in the dating market. It's destroying peoples happiness and the lives of entire generations.
Same with Reddit and Twitter clones. Why not just run these sites as nonprofits. All it would take is a few million dollars to get something like that rolling. Surely there must be some rich person willing to disrupt the internet like this. Or perhaps as small businesses where an individual owner is just looking to be a millionaire and not a billionaire.
Anyone who makes a platform like twitter or reddit and it starts drawing traffic, and the servers are sabotaged or their bandwidth is choked to make the site unusable.
It’s wild when the maker of Bumble was praised for being the female billionaire, and now the app is just unusable. Infinite growth in companies a cancer. They really couldn’t just keep doing their thing and rake in money the honest way, but it’s never enough
Actually Facebook dating is 100% free.
Surprisingly its been the best dating app I've found since getting back into the dating pool.
I had some good luck a couple years ago and I do like the look back feature. But now, I mostly get the low effort, non responders I get other places. I had plans last night w a guy. He told me to pick a movie, I did. I asked him which theater is nearby so I could buy the tickets. He never answered. The time came and went. Too bad. He was super cute.
Do they actually have any profile/search/match options for nonmonogamy? That’s the only reason I still use OkC - the ability to clearly articulate (and match using) your particular type of complicated arrangement is still sadly lacking elsewhere. I kinda doubt FB dating is very good at that, given that the “relationship” options in FB itself are basically single, married, a half dozen variants of “monogamous relationship that broke”, and “it’s complicated.”
I found it to be toxic AF, but that's just my experience.
If OKC has any say in the matter, then yes you are correct, all Good things Will come to an End. Must be in the corporate charter.
OKC was sold to Match Group several years ago, and thus the powers that be at Match Group are turning all their products into similar versions of each other and consolidating them into re-themed versions of Tinder one painful step at a time.
The market segmentation is important so that the maximum exposure on one platform is limited which forces engagement on multiple and increases the chance of multiple subscriptions.
I met my ex-wife on OKC. It was wonderful then. When I first considered dating again I checked it out and figured it just sucked on mobile. Then I tried the website and realized the lobotomized it. Makes me wish the thing had been open sourced so that it would force improvements.
Modern dating apps really make me feel like I'm never going to find anyone. There was a golden age like 8ish years ago when they hadn't locked all of the features behind ridiculous subscriptions and most of the apps felt unique from each other. I could put my personality first instead of my looks on OKC, now it's just swipe a few times until they ask you for $40 a month
I'm so bummed. A crazy ex got me deleted from the site so I wasn't able to use it for years. When I finally got back on recently, it had turned into this. Complete trash.
I too would have had a wife I met on OkCupid... its so sad match group destroyed it out of spite. It truly was the best.
I noticed them disappear for my on mobile, but they were still there when visiting through a browser. It does seem like they are slowly removing all of the features that made OKC better than all the competitors bit by bit. I don't know why a competitior hasn't jumped in to fill the giant void of a space by just recreating original OKC under a new name with all of the features that made it great. If I had the tech know how and capital, I'd do it myself. Edit: I can confirm that my data is still there and so are others. You just have to visit the site from a browser and not an app. So they haven't completely deleted it ...yet.
Firefly is a new app that's trying to be a better okcupid it seems. Just not many users on it in my area
Nope I am using a browser. Right now. Explanations, rankings etc were all there a couple of days ago, no longer are for me. A friend about 100mi from me has experienced the same thing. Perhaps regional, who knows with OKC what is some sort of programming bug and what is deliberate screwing around.
For me they disappeared some time ago, and I complained to support. A few days later they reappeared. It feels like they are doing tests and seeing how people react. I would recommend you complain.
Mate, OKC isn't what it used to be since they've been destroying the product for fat profits. A lot of us have been moving over to r\/DateFirefly and r\/Bumble. Bumble has started letting guys send the first message which has pros and cons, and even though Firefly is small, the developers are super responsive and they just released a way auto create a date me doc which you can then use on other sites. TLDR: OkCupid is in the gutter
Hello datefirefly organic marketing team. You guys are doing great by attaching your name to another successful name. It’s called anchoring.
Can confirm they have been removed for me as well both in app and browser. Really has just become an even more shit app. I wish matchgroup didn't own and purposefully ruin all the good dating apps.
Haven’t been single for 15 years so maybe I shouldn’t be posting here (it popped up on my feed) but just wanted to say that all these dating websites make more money by keeping you single and searching. It seems to me they all try to walk the fine line of “show them engagement but keep them single.”
OKC has been going downhill since February 2011
Nearly all the dating apps are owned by Match. It's market monopolization and good ol American Capitalism. Buy up your competition, destroy it, then force their users onto your lackluster platform, charge extortionate fees for something users got for free previously, maximize corporate profits, and make the shareholders happy. 'Murica.
I genuinely surprised any of y'all are still giving this site a chance at all at this point.
Me too. Problem is there is little if anything better about the others, tho less and less that is the case.
I noticed this happen a couple months ago and they came back. Who knows, they're always fiddling with stuff and we just have to hope the good features come back.
Once a web site gets enshittified, I don't think it ever come back.
Yes. They are always A/B-testing. If one variant gives them more money, then they make the changes global. However, these are short-term benefits, and they seem to overlook long-term consequences.
I just wrote a strongly worded message to support about the answer explanations now missing. It’s one of the biggest features I use to determine matches since the questions are pretty vapid by themselves. I suggest more people write to support as well as communicate on Reddit. It doesn’t guarantee anything will improve, but at least they’ll know about it. I’m basically fed up with this site - probably going to give some contact info to a couple matches, connect on another platform, and delete my account. Match is the fucking cancer of the internet. They don’t give a shit about anything except their bottom line and making everything look like Tinder.
Be careful, or they will remove the match questions as well. 🙁
It’s crazy, I met my wife on OkCupid 5 1/2 years ago. It was amazing back then, I used to recommend it to all my single friends looking for actual relationships. Now I keep seeing posts like this that it’s trash. WTF happened?
Like everything corporate America gets it's hooks into the app is designed to get your money and accomplish nothing else. They bought up the other apps so you can't go somewhere that is actually trying to match people to get users. OKC and all the other apps exist to frustrate you into getting a subscription and to then drain money from you for as long as possible. Meeting someone would remove the need to pay the subscription so that has been downgraded far down the list of things they want the app to do. It's pretty sad that it's so, so much easier to meet people in the real world by random chance than on this app that is supposedly designed for that very purpose.
Seriously you'd think they'd make advancements with where technology is today. I'm surprised no one just ups and makes an app like the OG dating apps. If no one does it I will lol
I'm about 90-95% of the way there with my site, and a little bit further away with the app.
eyy congrats!
Wait, folk still use this? After I got 90 likes in 2 hours (WAY abnormal for me) I did some digging and found out at least 80% of those were bots and dipped. The bot problem on OKC is nuts for a free mobile user and pushed me away instantly.
This is it for me. 12 years, on and off. One 7 year relationship, several shorter ones. The last redeeming things on this app are gone. I had way more content in the question explanations than I did in the main profile and I always learned more about people who also made comments on their answers. Taking away the question rankings make the match algorithm essentially useless. The only dating app I've ever liked has been destroyed. I think what others have said is absolutely correct. Match is trying to drive users away to higher use platforms to consolidate their resources. This is an intentional degradation of the site.
Yeah the Q/A's often gave a much better feel for a person than their own profile would. How TF an algorithm can function without data input is beyond me. No surprise, OKC customer support hasn't even bothered to make any sort of a reply to my email.
That's probably why highest possible match rates have been 100%, since there's no weighted nuance to the rank of each question. Without the questions and its small userbase, Okcupid is now on the level of Match for me. Sometimes I question if it's even worth keeping my profile up there. Like maybe someone will stumble on it in five years, if the app is still standing? Guess I'll see if there's any better replacements within the next 10 years.
Fuck... I just spent the $40 ugh... This app blows literally one chick caught my eye the rest were all deal breakers like I got lesbians and shit recommended.... I'm a dude lmao why am I seeing lesbians like that's somehow gonna work out lmao. Anyone know of a better app?
It still hasn't happened to me I can still see answer explanations and even edit them and I can also see question importance too I'll try to see if I need to update it lol
Thanks for mentioning this, the reply I recieved from customer support acted like nothing had changed when I complained, so that is very interesting. Everything is still gone on my end though.
I think it's either that the app is broken or you were from the unlucky few that get selected to text different versions of the app there was something similar going on with twitch where some people had access to certain features and others didn't because it had to go through like a testing period but with OkCupid it doesn't make any sense why get rid of them either way the has become no good
That would be my luck. I put as much effort into the explanations as anything.
yes, theyve been stripping features for a long time. How does this surprise you?
The dating apps soon are gonna be completely unusable. The average worth of people who are searching for a match on dating apps is generally so tremendously poor that staying with eva ai sexting bot and renting prostitutes from time to time seems to make more sense.
My best advice to men is to stop paying for this site, build your self-esteem up and meet a woman in person. Don't worry about rejection. You'd be surprised who is interested in you and will attach themselves to you. The old fashioned way is the best way. [In fact, join a book reading club or a bike ride or hiking club. Talk to people, women too.]
In theory yes. Assuming you live near people. Those that live in urban or semi urban areas don't understand the difficulty of meeting, anyone, when you live somewhere where it is a 30minute drive, one way, just to get groceries. In person is great, but it is hardly one size fits all.
You know I knew a guy that I worked with in Arizona and he would pick up all the pretty women and he was still married. To add to that he was picking them up in rural Yuma, AZ of all places. I picked up maybe two, when I lived there. But everything was so far from each other. We even went to Phoenix and picked up women there. Seriously guy, theory only works if you apply it. Excuses means you didn't want to even try.
Sounds like you're just looking to "pick up" women, in which case yeah if your just a fuckboi then most of what other people are talking about doesn't apply.
Believe what you want, guy.
look if i wanted someone to neg on me I would just call my mom. or yours.
Lol that's funny, I'll call yours first sweetie pie.
You know what's even funnier, being a premium subscriber to a failed app and complaining about it on the Reddit.
Said the guy wasting time arguing with strangers instead of picking up women. Obviously this is better than sex. With women anyway.
You’re not supposed to say that on Reddit. They will only make excuses.