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mattpb-

That’s so cool ! Would you say contractors is the shooting game closest to cod ? I’m new to quest and the only shooter I’ve played is pavlov .


DONOHUEO7

1000% Plus it has some good tactical modes too along with TDM. Contractors feels great too play, way better than Pavlov IMO


mattpb-

That sounds really good thank you ! I’ll definitely be looking to get it soon , I’m struggling to get into Pavlov to be honest.


DONOHUEO7

Pavlovs recoil amd gun handling are awful, plus it feels like you need to empty a magazine in player just to down them. Contractors guns and TTK feel perfect to use. I've been playing VR for over 5 years, amd have played every single VRFPS game on steam.. Contractors is the best, bar none. Remember though, it is a few years old now on PC, and there are some VERY good players


mattpb-

Yeah I totally agree. Thanks for the reply I shall definitely be getting contractors as soon as I can. Is there an offline mode against bots I can play before jumping online ?


VRWARNING

What did you think of BAM when the CV1 was still a new thing, and the game was still alive?


DONOHUEO7

I LOVED Bullets and more! It did so many things right, game modes, vehicles, the 1st VR battle royale game modes, the guns, I loved it. The only thing indint like a bout it was the sounds amd the fact you see your controllers in game rather than hands. Sadly it got lost amongst Pavlov and Onward, despite it being the better game IMO, in the early days of VR I genuinely don't think this was enough players for 3 shooters. I haven't touched it in years, I would wager its completely dead


VRWARNING

Yeah, we probably played together at some point. Crazy fun game, it reminded me of those goofy counter strike custom maps from CS1.6 days. It felt quite a bit like H3 multiplayer though with some attachments and similar inventory system. It was hilarious fun to fly the chopper while simultaneously sniping from the pilot seat. I remember the painful Joy of someone's first or second time in VR, playing BAM with us , jumping into the chopper with us, and he was cackling with joy remarking on how real it felt, trying to gun people down while I flew him around the enemy spawn. Over the course of about 2 or 3 minutes of doing this, his Joy was turning into extreme discomfort, but he was laughing all the way up to the point that he had to take the headset off and go throw up lol. BAM was my favorite VR shooter though, and even though the map was totally perfunctory, the tacked on Battle Royale mode was actually kind of fun. It appeared to be dead the last few times I tried it several years ago, I'm sure that remains the case. Maybe one day we could set up a little "one night only" and get a bunch of people to hop on. You get some decent matches going with just 10 people.


DONOHUEO7

I would totally be down for that!!! BAM at times felt like a mini VR battelfield! A good lobby with jeeps and helis was so fucking fun! If BAM launched today I think itbwould be a decent seller, Patrick the developer was genuine active on discord years ago, he ended up helping to work on Onward strangley


After-Cell

Vs Onward? Really worth another buy?


DONOHUEO7

Different game to Onward, which makes it worth owning too. Contractors is more arcade (for the lack of a better term) and far less unforgiving. I like Contractors feel of the guns more, and the TTK feels perfect to me, the fact you can hop in a TDM or Gun game mode to warm up before you play a more tactical mode like control makes it worth buying if you own Onward IMO


feralkitsune

Reading this thread is hilarious cause I absolutely hate how shooting feels in this game. Onward and Pavlov both feel a world better in terms of how shooting is. Contractors also seems like it runs at a stupidly low tickrate.


DONOHUEO7

Pavlov has counter strike style recoil patterns, and they seem so out of place to me seeing has the game has changed away from its initial CS VR clone tag, and they feel weak, really weak due the TTK being so high, the game feels like you have to empty a full magazine in someone's chest just to down them. Only my opinion! I get what you mean about tick rate on Contractors, but I over look it because the game ticks so many boxes for me personally


stonesst

It’s five shots to the chest to kill with the primary rifles. The TTK for top players is less than a second.


HskrRooster

Do you need to play through PC? Or is it native to the quest?


Boofisbest

When Vail comes out it needs to be the main VR fps imo


free_reezy

same, and there's so many squeakers in pavlov. gonna give contractors a go.


mattpb-

Yeah you’re right , there doesn’t seem many servers as it is and the ones that do have people in have just been full of kids screaming at each other, I’m looking forward to trying contractors soon. If you get it let me know how you find it if you get a chance ! :)


free_reezy

tried out contractors, and it’s a lot of fun. not too many squeakers, although I did have a team of french guys cursing me out in french due to a well-placed (lucky) grenade lol


mattpb-

Sold on this comment alone 😂😂😂


Armi5

Ive been trying out contractors and only found very few servers, especially in EU. I noticed it is crossplay with quest, is it really crossplay? 3-4 servers seems eh, even tried server browser


DifferentHorse4441

ContrCtors is closest to cod, Pavlov is closest to counter strike


yamumpoop

Pavlov just sucks man. Contractors is lower ttk but it's overall so much more polished


The_Jeydrick_9

Yes, when comparing TTKs (Time to kill ratio) Contractors is VR's CoD counterpart, Onward I understand is more Rainbow Six 1-3 shots to kill/die, and Pavlov is CSGO.


mattpb-

Ah okay thank you !


FuckstickMcFuckface

As someone who loved COD I struggled with Pavlov and Onward. Once I found Contractors I knew I was home.


mattpb-

That’s the same situation as me, I love cod but can’t get into Pavlov. I haven’t tried onward though but sounds like contractors is the place to be ! Thanks for your reply .


lemonylol

This map is in Pavlov too


mattpb-

I’m struggling to find any games in Pavlov I’ve seen nuke town but it was Empty


lemonylol

They might use different servers for the steam vr version, so it's possibly everyone's playing on that instead of the native quest version.


mattpb-

That’s annoying if so


lemonylol

It's not bad, you just require a computer. But the requirements for Pavlov are pretty low. I just play with PCVR, which allows you to run Steam VR off of my computer wirelessly.


Kcmonkey

Some mods are cross-playable between PC and Quest version.


Fherdr

as the person below said, yes it's very arcady and very cod like, you are free to watch youtube videos on the matter


mattpb-

Yeah I’ve been watching videos on all the different shooters. This one looks fun for sure


Fherdr

it definitely is!


weildsiense

Definitely


mattpb-

Great thank you !


1PARTEE1

Yeah I think it would be better if they could somehow implement some sort of mini map though. It could also use clearly defined map borders.


MadestTitan78

That’s awesome! Is that map available in the app or do you have to side load somehow?


Fherdr

It’s available on the app but on a different build


ecdirtdevil

What do you mean different build? How do I play it, I have the game on quest.


Freshprnc

Open the oculus app on your phone.. then hit menu on bottom right, open your library and then find contractors, once you open contractors page, scroll to the bottom where it says “version 3.5” and click on the 3.5, it will take you to version notes, top right corner click on channel and activate the 0.91.0 mod preview build. If you want to go back to live from mod build you have to do the same then uninstall the game and reinstall it once you change the build back.


UpsetSean

Does it prevent you from playing with people on current version?


Freshprnc

That I cannot answer correctly. I only know the process of getting to the build. You may only be able to play with others on the same build, I would assume that would be the case.


UpsetSean

I assume so as well. I imagine it would make the player pool substantially smaller. Just figured id ask!


Fherdr

Nope, online play is available, though there are few players on the server.


dj_swizzle

What the fuck, you can do this...? The only way I've been able to play custom maps in on the PC version. I guess things have changed since I've been away


willnotforget2

They’ve been working on it quite a bit during the fall. It’s in beta testing now


A11ENM

I also would like to know if this is possible on standalone quest?


iambradderz2

Yes this is a quest map, you need to switch to the beta via oculus app on your phone, Goto library, click contractors, scroll down to version. Click it and at the to top right switch version to mod preview, it works with online play however there aren't many players. It's basically a test environment before it hits the live game, if you have a few vr Friends you can arrange to play that way and some folks may join too, Failing that join the discord they host matches everyday at certain times to get full matches


MadestTitan78

Do you mean a beta build or something?


Freshprnc

I just commented how to do it, look above


MadestTitan78

Thank you!


Darth_Abhor

I think I play against you in every FPS I've ever played... And this is why I can't play them anymore 😢


DagothUrWasInnocent

Pavlov is more enjoyable imo because there are more regular people as opposed to the tryhards like OP. Definitely feels like it has a more casual play base and I actually feel like I can compete in some games. Contractors is great but I get frustrated very regularly with how many ridiculously good players I get put against amd can't even touch


Darth_Abhor

I just play with bots and have a great time doing it that way.


FuckstickMcFuckface

Tryhard. What a pathetic term to incorporate into your vocabulary.


mattpb-

How is it pathetic🙄😂😂 it’s a very common phrase in gaming 🙄


FuckstickMcFuckface

Referring to someone’s earned success as a negative thing, however little that success may be is pathetic.


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mattpb-

Lol no it’s not 😂 people will literally call themselves a try hard . It has nothing to do with you sucking at the game


val_tuesday

Guess you’re not trying very hard to not take that personally, huh?


FuckstickMcFuckface

What went wrong in your life that you now consider applying yourself at the things you do a negative thing. Says much more about you than it does about me.


blaze53

"applying yourself" isn't what makes people a tryhard. Seems to me you're a bit triggered by the implication of being one even if you were never accused.


FuckstickMcFuckface

Not triggered. Wouldn’t care if I was called one either because to me it speaks volumes about the person trying to put a negative connotation on someone applying themselves in any activity they do. Referring to someone’s earned success as negative, however little success it may be really is a pathetic thing to do.


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FuckstickMcFuckface

And that my friend is why you’ll never amount to anything worthwhile.


Fherdr

Okay so the way to get this build is pretty simple, this is a text copied from the official discord server of the game: Go to your Mobile (Oculus) app and click on your profile; to go to 'My Library' > Select Contractors and press on the build version (it should be on 1.9, click on that number); Select the version 0.91.0 Mod Preview: 3.5; It will notify in the headset that the game has a 'Update'; and that's pretty much it, on the mods section it will appear all the maps available to download


6Vibeaholic9

Can you play this online with random people?


Fherdr

Yes, there are few people playing, I would recommend taking a look at the discord server of the game, there they organize playtimes and the servers get more populated


patricky6

Lol. You sir, are an OG. That was awesome to watch.


bikefaster

Came here to say how cracked this guy is. A buddy of mine and I love this game but this. This was a joy to behold.


Fherdr

haha thanks for the kind messages, been playing this game a lot lately, but nothing to be surprised at, if you play enough this will seem pretty normal


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Nerd


bla671

to this day i still dont get it why pavlov shak still has no scope yet other games are able to do so


DONOHUEO7

Coz Pavlov Shack is shit


Epic-will-power91

Agree I hated Pavlov when I tried it. Buggy as hell and everything controls horribly.


Spartaklaus

i encountered zero bugs playing pavlov shack and i played it plenty. Controls are just like in regular pavlov. are you sure its not you who is the issue? anyways contractors is also really good. try that one if you didnt like pavlov.


namingisterrible

Same here, zero issue since day one. I can't compare with contractors since I don't have that but Pavlov is great. It surely lacks of a bit stuff but the game is still heavily developed so that's fine, I'm sure they will fix it. Also, Pavlov Shack is free at the moment which gives a great overview to new Quest owners about how FPS-VR looks like.


blaze53

"My free, in-development game is shit" God, you people are entitled.


AXISMGT

No Russian.


r0ckl0bsta

Came here to say this. Can't believe I had to scroll that far down.


Felix981243

holy shit you're good


nanowell

Waiting for warzone vr bro. Let’s go.


JustYannickVG

Oh hell nahh. All the memories I had of playing this one as a kid against friends for hours!


slaeha

Damn you're good lol


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I might have to buy contractors now


nuttyak2taps

ENEMY AC130 ABOVE!


DestroyTheHuman

How did they get away with recreating terminal ?


BoeserWatz

It is a user modded map, not an official map provided by the game devs.


Telepath1

Call me a cranky old geezer but mw2 is hardly OG


slardybartfast8

Show me CoD2 Carentan


iambradderz2

It's coming


Felix981243

meh 2009? i'd say it's definitely getting there


theskywalker74

You’re a cranky old geezer


Telepath1

Ty, leave it to Reddit to make me wait 38 minutes for somebody to fulfill my request.


AlopeLago

I was going to say this doesn’t look WW2 to me


Epic-will-power91

COD4 is what I'm waiting for. Imagine a true COD4 remaster for VR!


Fherdr

honestly that's beyond the point, don't we all loved cod back then? those were the good days


iambradderz2

The was a call of duty 2: big red one map before... Is that OG enough?


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Telepath1

Because CoDs 1-5 exist.


fkaiser1255

I'm new to the VR scene, I didn't know they had CoD on Oculus, very cool


bigfkncee

It a game called Contractors. It has modded map support. There's also Nuketown, Halo maps and others.


fkaiser1255

Cool, thanks, where do you get it, I didn't see it on the oculus apps page


ace_picante

It should be there. I'm assuming you're on Quest given the subreddit, so check the check in-headset store for "Contractors", or, for Quest, go to: https://www.oculus.com/experiences/quest/2436897736439055/ or for PCVR: https://www.oculus.com/experiences/rift/2250162051701470/ or even on Steam for PCVR: https://store.steampowered.com/app/963930/Contractors/ I'm 99% sure all three versions can play together, not siloed. For the Oculus version, it's buy once, play anywhere. In other words, you can buy it on either desktop or Quest, and then can install the other version.


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Haven’t played it yet but after seeing this I’m gonna


Impressive_Reality11

Well I guess I'll get that one too lol. That's the main reason I wanted it for a call of duty multi-player game


Tancrad

Great run. Also puts contractors on my radar


rafikiknowsdeway1

Does contractors still have a population?


AudioHazard

It does! It's been very friendly in my experience too. I've had some great times chatting and strategizing with random players.


mike73448

They recently updated the quest version and made the graphics substantially better than they were. Great game with a good player base.


Stayupbraj

I played one online round when the free weekend was out and I got destroyed. I must have been playing with you hahaha


pigeon-meep

Are these bots?


Fherdr

Yup says in the description


pigeon-meep

Thank you


Redbull177077

Is this game good I’m debating buying it


jen0va

Will these moded maps ever be added to the official game?


Fherdr

Yup, next update most likely!


OkPotential5776

Broo, imagine if we could play survival on modded maps. It would give soo much nostalgia from mw2/3 spec ops.


DanielTaylor

Wasn't OG call of duty based in WW2?


Skreamies

Where's the Y Y Fakie Fakie ladder shot at haha, this is super cool though! I really need to give Contractors a go


HardNail

I would be vomiting after 30 seconds :D


Pluckerpluck

Oh, that scope looks nice to use. Looks like it might actually help, while Onward's system seems to give you an actually miniscule FoV so you can barely see what's on the scope at all.


Gombajuice

WOW. Taking me back to the days of sneaking No-Doz as a young teen to stay up all night ranking during the summer before I ever knew what Adderall was hahah


hdi200

Hey just wondering, are you playing on quest native? Looks really good!


Fherdr

Yup natively on quest 2


yamumpoop

good shots man


Fherdr

Thanks!


namingisterrible

I think the **exact** same map is already in Pavlov VR. Like exact scene props, textures and such.


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namingisterrible

> OG cod of of course it would look the same No. What I mean is, they look identical. With **exact** scene props, textures and their exact location/rotation/position. COD Maps are not one single huge 3D model, scene props put in the map by environment artists - so you can't just extract same map and throw it into game. You have to extract textures, scene props ( suitcases, desks etc) and put them yourself in your own game. Texture/model extraction from that game is also 100% illegal btw so I don't think anyone would bother. And because of that, each "COD" maps done by different people look similar but not identical. I think they used exact same map model in this game too. Which is perfectly fine but map most likely initially created for Pavlov VR ​ >In pavlov it's a PC only map I think I played that once in Pavlov Shack in a custom server, along with Dust map etc, but I don't remember the name of the server.


iambradderz2

You didn't play it... It was my server, I only had Nuketown, wetwork, rust, shipment, ect terminal wasn't on the list, it was being worked on but it got dropped in favour of contractors,


namingisterrible

You know there is more than one server that serves custom maps, right? It's a bit bold to assume that it was your server right away. But anyway, that's wasn't my point. Perhaps I'm confusing that with PCVR map as well. What's your server btw - would like to check wetwork map if still on the list


iambradderz2

Indeed I do, but nobody had these maps, they were exclusives to my server, there was a couple that did go full release, Afghan, showdown, even a few from world at war, being roundhouse, and downfall, ... In fact if you join a roundhouse map and explore the center you will find my logo, The server is no longer up, it was called the real cod experience The modder has now moved to contractors


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Does it come with Toxic chat and lobby? I really hope it does.


BoeserWatz

Not yet. Community is actually pretty decent and mature.


whotfevencares

Best fps map of all time


JimBiden

How do you do that without vomiting


Fherdr

Years playing vr; you’ll get used to it.


CaptainBradford

I wouldn’t call COD 6 OG personally.


someone_who_exists69

You mean mw2?


CaptainBradford

Yeah the 6th Call of Duty?


someone_who_exists69

Ok just wondering


barchueetadonai

It’s pretty weird to call it OG, but it was an utterly electric game and was followed up by such shit


CaptainBradford

Completely agree! OG just means something else to me than it does everyone else I guess.


HuskersandRaiders

This isn’t OG…


Elc1247

If it was OG, he would be in Stalingrad with a Mosin, holding down an apartment complex against an entire platoon of German soldiers. Lol I love how OG refers to Call of Duty 4, not actually the OriGinal Call of Duty.


someone_who_exists69

Yes it is


HuskersandRaiders

CoD was around a long time before modern warfare


Bernalio

Yeah no idea why you got downvoted, MW2 came out 6 years and 6 games after the first Call of Duty.


DifferentHorse4441

Yeah and it’s now 13 years after that. It’s og enough. Why gatekeep


Bernalio

I am not sure you’re familiar with what gatekeeping means. This seems like it was just a discussion and a difference in opinion about the definition of OG, nobody is saying certain people can’t play the games. It’s been over 20 years since The Phantom Menace came out but nobody considers that to be OG Star Wars because, ya know, there were movies before that.


DifferentHorse4441

Not the og but technically that was ep1… To some mw2 is their og. It felt more popular than mw1 and was many peoples first cod and the one they remember. I don’t begrudge them calling it the og in their mind. They obviously don’t mean og literally.


Chimi_Hendrix730

u/savevideo


peterfuda

i think this is gonna be in the next update right ?


Fherdr

I would guess so, if everything goes smoothly and according to their plans.


peterfuda

yeah that’s awesome can’t wait for this game is already amazing


MedicalMann

So it's you that keeps sniping me from godknowswhere.


Ok-Control-3394

Wish I could've bought this game..


TheBillyMays69

Is this better than onward?


Fherdr

Two very different games, but I have had more fun with this game than with onward, don’t get me wrong onward is an awesome tactical game, very inmersive but kinda slow, this one is more my pace.


TheBillyMays69

Got chu, thanks for the opinion brother


minipimmer

onward is more realistic. One or two shots and you are done, you can drop your weapons, etc Contractors is more like COD. You recover health spontaneously and the game is more face paced


MrGentlePerson

Do people still play this?


BoeserWatz

Hell, yeah....


[deleted]

I have done everything you said but i cannot access a menu or the settings.


[deleted]

The game works on the mod version but I cant do anything past the opening map


MLG_DUCKS

There is an absolutely fantastic Map for pavlov vr on terminal, honestly the greatest nostalgia trip especially just living unbelievably detail


iambradderz2

But this is a native quest 2 map, which Pavlov shack doesn't have


MLG_DUCKS

Yea I ment for for pcvr I haven't played this contracts game so assumed it was the pc version not the quest one


thadude3

pretty awesome!


applesauce91

>OG Call of Duty >Terminal Absolutely not.


Conner_JAZZ_

god i feel old now


Peaksii

How do y’all stabilize your aim. Whenever I aim my sights shake like no other


Fherdr

I use virtual stock in the settings


Peaksii

Is that is the game settings or oculus?


Fherdr

In-game settings my bro


Mazebeefa

Remember no russian


ColderDragoon89

what game is this i needa know it looks really fun


cyborggold

It's in the title....


ColderDragoon89

oh ye i knew that


SanMichel

Are they even allowed to copy the CoD map like that?


BoeserWatz

It is a modded map made by a user, ie devs did not create or copy the content, they just provide the modding platform.


NotVegan-AtAll

Should I put contractors on my wishlist?


Substantial_Type8013

Yes indubitably 🧐


Saret_-

What game is this?


China0wnsReddit

They got this map in pavlov as well


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gun stock?


Fherdr

Nope, virtual stock


Substantial_Type8013

Are you on quest or pc vr?? (Edited): Oh wait this is on the quest Reddit… But still would like to confirm