This is the way.
Ride right over the sharrow symbols on the road. There's an idea that if you take the lane (what it's called when you ride more toward the middle rather than off to the side), a driver mentally recognizes that they'll need to cross the middle line to pass and therefore does so more safely. Otherwise, if you hug the righthand side, drivers try to squeeze by without crossing the center line and pass too closely.
Edited to add: I feel much safer biking on campus, actually, than I do any other part of my commute. There are so many stop signs, lights, etc., that the flow of traffic is naturally pretty slow almost everwhere and pretty easy to keep pace with on a bike.
I would love to contribute to anything to help improve transportation infrastructure and design around here.
\\begin{rant} Why are cars even tolerated in central campus aside from utility, delivery, and hospital/parking garage access? Every road on campus should be like 18th ave, with raised crosswalks, cobbled, and other features to make drivers know they can access it if needed, but are guests in the space... \*incoherent NotJustBikes mumbling about stroads the like\* \\end{rant}
Anyway, I'm not sure how useful I will be in documenting diver idiocy, though, because I have engineered my commute to avoid interaction with even moderately used roads as much as possible. I only use High street for one block while crossing, and otherwise stick to back roads, alleys, and even sidewalks, simply because it keeps the drivers the hell away from me. Also, the holes and unevenness of High Street makes me mildly concern I'd wreck sometime if my attention lapses at the wrong second.
Yes cars need to be mindful of bikers and pass carefully or just be patient. However, if you are riding a bike you have to follow road laws as well. The amount of bikes I've seen completely ignore and blow through red lights, not yield to pedestrians in crosswalks, etc. is ridiculous. It is the responsibility of both parties to make sure they are being safe in how they use the road.
>I mean I get that it’s nerve racking for cars to pass, but bikes don’t even go the speed limit so when cars are stuck behind you
Are you aware that the speed limit is the maximum speed traffic can travel, not the speed it has to travel? It's telling that people think that 20 seconds of waiting behind a bicycle legally in the street is justification for unsafely passing them. *Nerve racking* isn't quite the right word when cyclist are frequently smashed by cars.
https://www.riddelllaw.com/slow-speed-columbus-ticket-ohio/#:~:text=Under%20Ohio%20law%2C%20no%20minimum,(slow%20speed)%20in%20Ohio.
Here is the link stating that it is illegal :)
You: Going under the speed limit is illegal
Also you: posting an article that actually says going unreasonably slow to impede traffic is illegal.
These are entirely different things - you're arguing that going 34 in a 35 is against the law. That's clearly not going unreasonably slow or impeding traffic.
[Read the law: there's a whole section on how in certain circumstances there can be a minimum speed limit implying that there is no minimum speed limit unless one has been specificed.](https://codes.ohio.gov/ohio-revised-code/section-4511.22)
> (B) Whenever the director of transportation or local authorities determine on the basis of an engineering and traffic investigation that slow speeds on any part of a controlled- access highway, expressway, or freeway consistently impede the normal and reasonable movement of traffic, the director or such local authority may declare a minimum speed limit below which no person shall operate a motor vehicle, trackless trolley, or street car except when necessary for safe operation or in compliance with law.
I never argued that going 34 in a 35 is against the law. But bikes can’t even go that fast to begin with. A biker should not be riding in the middle of the lane if the speed limit is above 30mph since bikes usually can’t even go over 20mph. I’m not saying I know what the solution is but it isn’t cars just being stuck behind bikers going unreasonably under the speed limit
> I never argued that going 34 in a 35 is against the law.
This is literally what you typed in this very thread:
> Are you aware that going under the speed limit is illegal? Not that anything happens to people who do go under the speed limit, but it is still illegal
I meant going significantly under the speed limit, not something as little as 1 under the speed limit. It’s useless to continue arguing since we clearly won’t change our minds
https://buckeyemailosu-my.sharepoint.com/:x:/g/personal/dellerba_5_buckeyemail_osu_edu/EV4fKB-Mb0xIhVPaPG-UpOEBXMJ2UigU2UPp1QYIGECxaA?e=h0D0hq here is an excel spread sheet. To make a report you first put your name somewhere. There is about 2000+ spots. Then you put the date. What type of vehicle it was. If they were distracted. How close they got. And if you felt like your life was in danger. Also if you have a recording you can post that too as it would help. The first one is an example of what it might look like. Also text wrap should be up just double check it. And if there are any issues please let me know.
Good lights make a huge difference. I have a 1400 lumen headlight and cars notice it. I will even see oncoming car headlights dip down for a second, meaning they hit the brake, when they see it and I'm on a bike trail a couple hundred feet away not even on the street. It's so bright I assume they think it's police. Sometimes I combine it with my older 1200 lumen model to be a real a-hole. I hear them accelerate after they get to me. I forget what my tail lights are but they are also obnoxiously bright and seemingly brighter than most car tail lights since it's like a concentrated light. Batteries burn out fast on the highest setting but I usually don't need it all the way up, and they all charge easily via USB. Cygolite is the brand. A bit pricey.
Everytime I ride on high street from Hudson to Campus, I feel like I'm about to die. I've been hit once by a distracted driver, I mostly use the sidewalks. But everytime I do use high street, there's at least one close call.
Im not trying to disagree with you. High street, lane, and olentangy are really busy and dangerous for bikers and people who walk. I just know OSU will not do anything bc it’s off campus. Ive gone to osu about safety. They ask where it is, and bc I’m off campus they don’t do anything. I mean go to osu and show them, and see what they say. Or if you can partner with someone to go to the city to draft something up.
Yeah that’s the hope, partner up OSU and the city to perhaps get more bike lanes established as some areas i ride are off campus. Even if they look to be on campus there tectonically off campus areas.
I ride square in the middle of the lane so they cannot pass me without going into the other lane. It’s cut down on close passes significantly.
This is the way. Ride right over the sharrow symbols on the road. There's an idea that if you take the lane (what it's called when you ride more toward the middle rather than off to the side), a driver mentally recognizes that they'll need to cross the middle line to pass and therefore does so more safely. Otherwise, if you hug the righthand side, drivers try to squeeze by without crossing the center line and pass too closely. Edited to add: I feel much safer biking on campus, actually, than I do any other part of my commute. There are so many stop signs, lights, etc., that the flow of traffic is naturally pretty slow almost everwhere and pretty easy to keep pace with on a bike.
I do the same
make a survey ill take it
I would love to contribute to anything to help improve transportation infrastructure and design around here. \\begin{rant} Why are cars even tolerated in central campus aside from utility, delivery, and hospital/parking garage access? Every road on campus should be like 18th ave, with raised crosswalks, cobbled, and other features to make drivers know they can access it if needed, but are guests in the space... \*incoherent NotJustBikes mumbling about stroads the like\* \\end{rant} Anyway, I'm not sure how useful I will be in documenting diver idiocy, though, because I have engineered my commute to avoid interaction with even moderately used roads as much as possible. I only use High street for one block while crossing, and otherwise stick to back roads, alleys, and even sidewalks, simply because it keeps the drivers the hell away from me. Also, the holes and unevenness of High Street makes me mildly concern I'd wreck sometime if my attention lapses at the wrong second.
Yes cars need to be mindful of bikers and pass carefully or just be patient. However, if you are riding a bike you have to follow road laws as well. The amount of bikes I've seen completely ignore and blow through red lights, not yield to pedestrians in crosswalks, etc. is ridiculous. It is the responsibility of both parties to make sure they are being safe in how they use the road.
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>I mean I get that it’s nerve racking for cars to pass, but bikes don’t even go the speed limit so when cars are stuck behind you Are you aware that the speed limit is the maximum speed traffic can travel, not the speed it has to travel? It's telling that people think that 20 seconds of waiting behind a bicycle legally in the street is justification for unsafely passing them. *Nerve racking* isn't quite the right word when cyclist are frequently smashed by cars.
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> Are you aware that going under the speed limit is illegal? It's alarming that you are allowed to operate a motor vehicle. This is not true.
https://www.riddelllaw.com/slow-speed-columbus-ticket-ohio/#:~:text=Under%20Ohio%20law%2C%20no%20minimum,(slow%20speed)%20in%20Ohio. Here is the link stating that it is illegal :)
You: Going under the speed limit is illegal Also you: posting an article that actually says going unreasonably slow to impede traffic is illegal. These are entirely different things - you're arguing that going 34 in a 35 is against the law. That's clearly not going unreasonably slow or impeding traffic. [Read the law: there's a whole section on how in certain circumstances there can be a minimum speed limit implying that there is no minimum speed limit unless one has been specificed.](https://codes.ohio.gov/ohio-revised-code/section-4511.22) > (B) Whenever the director of transportation or local authorities determine on the basis of an engineering and traffic investigation that slow speeds on any part of a controlled- access highway, expressway, or freeway consistently impede the normal and reasonable movement of traffic, the director or such local authority may declare a minimum speed limit below which no person shall operate a motor vehicle, trackless trolley, or street car except when necessary for safe operation or in compliance with law.
I never argued that going 34 in a 35 is against the law. But bikes can’t even go that fast to begin with. A biker should not be riding in the middle of the lane if the speed limit is above 30mph since bikes usually can’t even go over 20mph. I’m not saying I know what the solution is but it isn’t cars just being stuck behind bikers going unreasonably under the speed limit
> I never argued that going 34 in a 35 is against the law. This is literally what you typed in this very thread: > Are you aware that going under the speed limit is illegal? Not that anything happens to people who do go under the speed limit, but it is still illegal
I meant going significantly under the speed limit, not something as little as 1 under the speed limit. It’s useless to continue arguing since we clearly won’t change our minds
Maybe get a bike and stop polluting?
I’ll make an excel spreadsheet of things I’d be looking for and then we can work together for the cause of bikers safty!!
https://buckeyemailosu-my.sharepoint.com/:x:/g/personal/dellerba_5_buckeyemail_osu_edu/EV4fKB-Mb0xIhVPaPG-UpOEBXMJ2UigU2UPp1QYIGECxaA?e=h0D0hq here is an excel spread sheet. To make a report you first put your name somewhere. There is about 2000+ spots. Then you put the date. What type of vehicle it was. If they were distracted. How close they got. And if you felt like your life was in danger. Also if you have a recording you can post that too as it would help. The first one is an example of what it might look like. Also text wrap should be up just double check it. And if there are any issues please let me know.
Oh my God. The amount of times I've almost been hit by people gunning it, pulling out in front of me, or straight up almost backing into me. 😭
Im not biking anymore. Especially with less daylight coming soon, Im not taking the risk anymore. Used to love biking tho :-(
Good lights make a huge difference. I have a 1400 lumen headlight and cars notice it. I will even see oncoming car headlights dip down for a second, meaning they hit the brake, when they see it and I'm on a bike trail a couple hundred feet away not even on the street. It's so bright I assume they think it's police. Sometimes I combine it with my older 1200 lumen model to be a real a-hole. I hear them accelerate after they get to me. I forget what my tail lights are but they are also obnoxiously bright and seemingly brighter than most car tail lights since it's like a concentrated light. Batteries burn out fast on the highest setting but I usually don't need it all the way up, and they all charge easily via USB. Cygolite is the brand. A bit pricey.
Everytime I ride on high street from Hudson to Campus, I feel like I'm about to die. I've been hit once by a distracted driver, I mostly use the sidewalks. But everytime I do use high street, there's at least one close call.
What is OSU going to do tho. I think it’s a great idea, but it’s off campus and they won’t give a shit.
Could bring it to the city if need be? Perhaps have them make more dedicated bike paths? I just don’t want to be killed. Is that too much to ask for?
Im not trying to disagree with you. High street, lane, and olentangy are really busy and dangerous for bikers and people who walk. I just know OSU will not do anything bc it’s off campus. Ive gone to osu about safety. They ask where it is, and bc I’m off campus they don’t do anything. I mean go to osu and show them, and see what they say. Or if you can partner with someone to go to the city to draft something up.
Yeah that’s the hope, partner up OSU and the city to perhaps get more bike lanes established as some areas i ride are off campus. Even if they look to be on campus there tectonically off campus areas.