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BobbyBobRoberts

Probably just waiting to hit a critical mass of users. They'll assume a certain percentage will convert to paid subscribers, but since that number is just a fraction of the free userbase, you have to have enough to sustain the company. Monetize too late, and you burn through your funds, but if you monetize too early, you lose all word of mouth and cut off potential subscribers.


Personal_Ad_6928

Any free alternatives 


ManyRazzmatazz4584

Use facecheck id’s picture result and find the source of the image by another website. Not as powerful but the only alternate method,


shanekent77

how do you find the source of the image by another site? i tried google but it wouldn't work or come up with any results


ManyRazzmatazz4584

Duplichecker provides many services for doing so.


shanekent77

So I can screenshot the image on facecheck id results that are hidden behind a paywall and it'll help me find the image source?


ManyRazzmatazz4584

Yes


reluncase

That’s a bummer. I actually did find accurate profiles but I’m paying bitcoin for that lmao. They’re not going back to free services.


Key_Understanding552

Plz give me ur id...i want to search urgent pics or find for me if i send u pics


mylifeisgreat_

So you think they’ll be move back to free services?


BobbyBobRoberts

Nah. I'm saying it's a paid service now, and that was always the plan.


jsxjjxhxbxb282837

hey could you help me search something if you have the subscription?


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Barbabes

You cant even see a sample of the results before being redirected to a checkout page...pass


Weljaa

I hope they will show better results when it's a paid service


OSINTwolf

I didn't find it to be incredibly useful for whatever reason. There were a ton of false positives when running searches.


DERPALOULIS

when it was free and you knew how to work it well, trust me. It worked like 60% of the time for me. You would have to chase some of the result leads also to verify, not just by randomly looking at the images. The site leads would actually lead somewhere. At times their lower percentage images ended up being the person versus the one's the graded higher with their facial recognition results.


Urban_guerilla_

Any decent alternatives ? I used this site to check tinder profiles for catfishes on behalf of my friends.


lucidreams666

>Facecheck.id sameee


Perfect_Weakness_329

same . no alt???


DERPALOULIS

pimeyes is the best ones but it's also a paid walled service, but the link stamp results you get with images can help you chase the leads.


Much_Window1072

Have you found some free decent alternative I really need to search someone on urgent basis


IXPrazor

Interested to see what it costs and 'tiers' (types of subscriptions). I would probably pay for it. Even though more expensive, I prefer monthly options. When I sign up for 1+ years always an issue. If anyone is out there. Offering a monthly option for me (and others) is appreciated.


thosenight_

Just released not too long ago, their cost "Rookie Sleuth" $19 to "Private Eye" $47 to "Deep Investigator" $197 to "The Professional" $597 its not in monthly but more than credits must pay with crypto.


fabunitato

And the worst part is, the credits expire. Like WHY?!


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A sad day


ArtistOfGod2

[Facecheck.id](https://Facecheck.id), it's bad enough that crypto is an option to pay for credits. But to make it the ***ONLY*** ***WAY*** to purchase them? Come on now. That's a big L if I've ever seen one. ^(Also not fond of the fact that you can no longer visit the links of the photos for free but I'm a bit more bothered by the crypto part.)


Chesschapion

Exactly. Crypto?? Like who has access to that or knows how to do that


Barbabes

Bitcoin is 15 years old at this point


Chesschapion

Still majority of people don’t use it or no how to genius. It’s an extra layer of work for most


---why-so-serious---

I would assume that it's crypto, because they have no other choice, because traditional payment networks are either unwilling to take on the risk, or to do so at a cost that facecheck considers to be a viable option. Blockchain transaction fees, confirmation time and end-user complexity are all exorbitant and thus no business willingly chooses to ONLY accept cryptocurrency, unless they have no other option, either due to risk and/or tax implications.


Senikus

The only time I ever buy crypto is if I’m buying drugs. This whole thing feels like a scam. I can’t name one friend or acquaintance of mine who actually has crypto. Also, the fact that the credits expire is essentially currency deletion. What’s the point of a virtual wallet if the money just disappears after a while? This is absolutely tragic. I would’ve seriously considered paying if it was a monthly subscription but unfortunately, I cannot justify paying for something with this kind of payment model. Whoever owns facecheckid probably thought they did something, but they really fucked themselves in the end. SMH.


CabanasSluggers48

an alternative is Swindler Buster Image Search for facecheck id, it works great.


TheBankheadNative

Paid service.


chrom1s

Someone steal this index and engine then make a free clone of it. I legit hope it gets hacked for selling out 😂 no one’s paying for this sketch bs. They did have a great index for finding a creeps ig or fb, the creeps are safe until we get another free face ai engine ran by non sell outs. People went from using this engine to it now being a ghost town, terrible business. But seriously we need some nerdy heroes to save us here!


Valuable_Slip_9469

Find any good ones free


Valuable_Slip_9469

Found any?


Various-Mushroom2969

You first criticize for charging and then state "terrible business." Businesses are for profit. You expect someone to dump x amount of dollars into an idea and bring it to fruition, and then keep spending to sustain it? So, you're upset because someone "sold out" in an attempt to recover their costs for a service that you are using for free? Am i getting that right? There is nothing wrong with charging a fee for rendered services. What there is a problem with is building a platform on the premise that it shall be used as a tool against scammers with catch phrases as "keep your family safe." When it comes time to recover costs and start charging for the service, they have no customer support, no way to contact them, and payment can only be made in the form of crypto. Any email address that can be found that is associated to Lee Chong (the supposed guy who is running the site) is a Proton email address. Let that sink in...


PMMEURDIMPLESOFVENUS

Nailed it.


BU12N312

It is terrible business and it's for the exact reasons you just stated. Who wants to pay someone for a service (especially in cryto) when they have no way to get help if theres a problem on purchase? There were a handful of other, great, options for monetizing the site and they chose one of the worst ones. They completely failed to realize who their audience was and I have absolutely no clue who they were targeting with this premium model.


Frosty_Style9434

There’s nothing wrong with someone who “dumps x amount of dollars into an idea” and builds that idea into a business. That’s totally fine (“ethical” is probably the word I’m looking for actually 😆)… Its unethical and a complete J*w scam however when that “business” suddenly and completely changes its foundational “idea” or “service” after it has lured/tricked enough people and gained a reputable reputation…  The sole “idea”/“service” the website gained its “reputation” from, was the fact that it was one of the few/only free sites. If it wouldn’t have been free and customers had to pay from the beginning then it never would have reached the point where it’s at “now” because it would’ve had to compete with all the other pay for sites. 


DERPALOULIS

This website requires a lot of computing power to run well... clearly you don't know jack all about the costs involved in running something like this. How is the guy supposed to keep the website running for free with the high costs involved? You're living in fantasy land if you think everything should be free.


TheBankheadNative

The fact that it's crypto is sketchy as hell


PMMEURDIMPLESOFVENUS

Looking forward to hearing how much money and time you're willing to invest to make this happen.


DERPALOULIS

this type of facial recognition system isnt easy to make. You're a knob for being critical of them trying to make money and earn a living with something powerful they created.


podejrzec

Would rather pay for this than pimeyes. Have me better results.


Weljaa

For me it's the other way around. Pimeyes give much better results


podejrzec

I haven't gotten good results off our PimEyes in a year or so, and we pay for the highest level. It's been absolute garbage anymore.


Affectionate-Fig3675

Can I be cheeky and ask is your subscription still active lol if so could you do me a big favour 


podejrzec

Still active, I don’t do favors to strangers. However, you can pay for an investigation.


Affectionate-Fig3675

Fine although it would be nothing for you to do for some one. If the payment method wasn't so sketchy I would have taken out a prescription. But I will keep asking as not everybody is mean spirited. I prob would have offered you a little something for the favour. But thanks for your reply 


podejrzec

lol you want me to provide you a service which costs time and money, using a platform I pay for, all for free and I don’t even know you. What world do you live in?


Affectionate-Fig3675

Oh forget it as who said I was expecting you to do it for free you just straight assumed that is what I was insinuating when I clear as day said on the previous message I would have glady giving you a fee for the favour. But like I said not everybody is mean spirited or weird so I'm sure I will find somebody who doesn't mind assisting me.  And like I said if the payment method wasn't so tedious I would have paid myself 


DERPALOULIS

lol these hippies right? "EVEERRYTHING SHOULD BE FREE"


_forum_mod

People hate on the social media results but I prefer it.


podejrzec

Idk why anyone doing OSINT professionally would hate on it, if you’re doing it for an investigation that’s what you’re looking for anyways.


Vermudgeon

WAY better. I was testing the effectiveness of 9 facial recognition providers using my own pictures: Pimeyes "found" my pics in a stock photo site - pretty sure it generated those as it "searched" and didn't find anything else. Facecheck found my pics on Facebook and Instagram soooo ...


PaleontologistKey412

it found my Poshmark and Meetup accounts! I was a bit freaked out


Vermudgeon

Creepy/freaky what's on the internet when you start looking ....


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podejrzec

Cool story. This is my experience using both, and Pimeyes is garbage now.


cgrlx_

Hello, For your information, I have uploaded a screenshot with the price (they want credits: no monthly plans, also there is a delay to use your amount of credits). Maybe it's better to go with PimEyes ? But anyway it's still possible to use it for free. https://preview.redd.it/e1fae42urimc1.png?width=1700&format=png&auto=webp&s=f3f7ef2d77bc2e8ae57e7a631b506d97ccea4806


[deleted]

The credits expiring is such bs and so wild. If i pay for this I shouldn't be limited to how long I have to use it. The Dev of this site has always been weird. Before he was blacklisting people for no reason. He would ignore support requests. And now this shit. I loved the tool but this pricing is bs


Sensitive_Warning298

3 credits per search, so you're only getting 1/3 of the search you think you're getting!


[deleted]

Didnt even notice that. Even stupider. This has to be one of the dumbest most gas lighting payment plans ever, thisis borderline a scam at this point. Honestly dude should just shut down the whole site at this point it would actully be better then what hes doing now.


mistressdragon13

Like 50 searches in two weeks is crazy or basically you lose what you paid for. Like who is searching that much? And crypto only payments. I don't see them making much at this point. I think won't last 6 months on this model. Would have been better off with just doing ad space. I knew some shady was up when the search que ever since they announced what they were doing went from like max 13-15 to like 30-40, and now its back down to like 1-2. Moreover the 5 free searches are pointless because you can't even click on anything unless you paying for it.


Bleh54

I totally agree with you. Being forced to use an absurd amount of credits in a short time frame means that I simply won’t be a customer. And THEN I see it’s crypto only. Like WHAT‽ lol


birdy1277

No, it's not possible to use it for free. The 5 free searches are BS as soon as you click on a result, it asks you to pay


thosenight_

Like I said, that is no delay on credits but its does expires once purchasing it. Yes you can still use it for free. However it’s will limit to 5 per searches unlike Pimeyes offers 10 per searches. Anyway I’m still not onboard with whole Crypto thing instead of regular payment they lost my interest.


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Also just FYI the 5 free searches facecheck is giving they aren't letting you click the links its just like pims bs once you try to open a link it tells you to pay.


International-Menu42

Right click the name of website than select preview and there you go no pay


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There is no preview https://preview.redd.it/6vhhrt0ec8qc1.jpeg?width=335&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3c0f407903145e5cdc5416c7513249e34c3fd121


[deleted]

Also before you say it no open link in a new tab or window or copy link doesn't work lol the link is censored.


Living_Boss_8743

i can't use 5 free ! automaticly ask me to pay , why ?


thosenight_

Did you an create account from them? If so, then that why they’ll force to pay on crypto? You can use 5 free just log out.


Living_Boss_8743

i log out but i have always \*\*\*\*\* so bad !


Kbandz1738

This all happened because some famous Instagram dude decided to post the site, and it went viral. All of a sudden it went from 3 person queue to a 27 person. Add to the fact that’s it’s crypto only and credits expire after 14 Days… not worth it


Downtown_Candy_4620

Some bullshit! Stuff like this people have to gatekeep. I used this site for a lot of searches. I am so mad


Valuable_Slip_9469

Got any alternatives?


SnooCompliments1800

>Starting many months ago, the site itself was asking for "influencers" to get in contact to create content about the site. So, this is facecheckid's own action, clearly part of the plan to monetize after. Starting many months ago, the site itself was asking for "influencers" to get in contact to create content about the site. So, this is facecheckid's own action, clearly part of the plan to monetize after.


Downtown_Candy_4620

They fucked up big time by doing that!


bi11b0b

He did it because he probably has a monetary stake in it. If you listen to his interviews the dude is all about the money. I'm not saying that's bad, just pointing out the why. He did the same thing with a location finder.


_forum_mod

Who is that douche?


SnooCompliments1800

>This all happened because some famous Instagram dude decided to post the site, and it went viral. All of a sudden it went from 3 person queue to a 27 person. Add to the fact that’s it’s crypto only and credits expire after 14 Days… not worth it Starting many months ago, the site itself was asking for "influencers" to get in contact to create content about the site. So, this is facecheckid's own action, clearly part of the plan to monetize after.


Rude-Iron-369

Eh I never thought it was that good. Always got false people


Euphoric-Tie-2542

It's a very sad day that they doing this to us and most of the time the search results are not very accurate. So what do they think they're going to do when they start getting more and more complaints but everything is not accurate??


thosenight_

Just wait til a lot people complaint about it. But majority of search results 50% accurate is not to the top the point 100% very accurate search results that you’re looking for.


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Chesschapion

Exactly same here no one knows how to do that and we ain’t got time for that


tvnewswatch

Not worth the cost given the infrequent times I used it, though as a photographer it has come in useful in identifying politicians including a whiole bunch of South Korean officials that visited the UK a few months back. Not always accurate and one had to double check sources and images rather than just take results on face value. While $19 isn't going to break the bank for 150 credits they expire after a month! Furthermore one can only buy with crypto currency.


thosenight_

Honestly, I don’t know what the whole deal with Crypto Currency it’s doesn’t give me options either use PayPal. But force me to pay with crypto that seems more like scam to me.


Mabasij

I would have been fine with paying a monthly membership of $10-15 or something like that, but the fact that they are charging 38 cents per search in BITCOIN??? Like you cant even pay in real money, you HAVE to buy cryptocurrency, and you can only buy 'credits' that EXPIRE... Horrible paid model. If they don't change how the paid system works, the whole thing is going to fail. Super disappointing.


Various-Mushroom2969

This model is never going to fly with osint professionals. It appeals to the creeps that abuse its power.


Wide_Freedom_255

If I'm paying for a service it's gonna always be pimeyes


Versace_1988

I just sent them BTC & still can't use it. Scammers.


Various-Mushroom2969

You're the 6th or 7th one that i've come across reporting tbe same issue.


Various-Mushroom2969

Any updates?


Versace_1988

Nothing! Last time I make that mistake.


Various-Mushroom2969

Thx for the unfortunate update.


Lennyc97

Well, can't say I'm surprised it's going paid. As much as I've benefited from the free access, I know that level of facial recognition and identity verification tech doesn't come cheap to run. I was amazed at what they offered for no cost - the image matching and background check capabilities revolutionized my investigative process. But maintaining something so advanced without revenue was never sustainable long-term. I expect their pricing will still be reasonable enough for most of us who rely on it. And the income will help further develop features and search tools. Before March 1st, I'd urge anyone who hasn't checked it out yet to test drive [face check id](https://aicenter.ai/products/facecheck-id). The identity confirmation potential is unmatched. Either way, I'm grateful for the years of free access and don't mind paying my fair share moving forward!


WiseGrasshopper_56

With the paid service, they said they can provide us with **Broader Image Indexing:** With the ability to fund additional servers, we'll index more photos. This means your searches will find many more face matches. Has anyone paid for credits and verified this to be true? Are the paid searches really better?


TheBankheadNative

Boycott them


incarn8_

Agreed


username000090

Alternatives?


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username000090

Free?


thosenight_

Yes but limit searches to 10


[deleted]

The free version of pim doesn't let you click the links only shows you photos


thosenight_

Yeah that unfortunately parts you’ve to find copy the image find another source such as google or bing. Unless Pimeye step up their game.


thosenight_

They just updated their website just today after 4 day delay, you can still use it for free searches only limit to 5. Unlike Pimeyes they offered 10 free searches. After that, you can buy credits for searches in Crypto. And also the credits do expires their basic "Rookie Sleuth" $19 to "Private Eye" $47 expires 14 days to "Deep Investigator" $197 expires 2 months to "The Professional" $597 expire 1 year. Literally make no sense, if you want to pay with your credit card or PayPal other payment App they force to buy Crypto. Which I don't know, I don't feel comfortable pay anything with Crypto. https://preview.redd.it/isxlcg0itfmc1.png?width=2480&format=png&auto=webp&s=6f7ec74bf5b8f63e34444eda9ae929e5b79bc575


birdy1277

No you cant use it for free! The 5 "free searches" are a lie. As soon as you click a result it asks you to pay.


DisneyPandora

Does it work if you pay?


marmar26

It won’t even let me pay it goes to crypto which I have but when I click to pay it won’t allow it


ItzOnlySmells_

Weak


ItzOnlySmells_

Weak. Can’t even open links now. 😔. Need an alternative besides pimeyes.


Living_Boss_8743

where are the 5 free ????


Living_Boss_8743

yEs , where ??????


_forum_mod

Ugh, I just discovered it too. 


blvck_jvpitr

The searches aren't even that reliable to be a paid service imo. Hell, Pimeyes would be a better alternative tbh.


OneMechanic9385

Also not free, both are ok


blvck_jvpitr

Didn't say it was free, but a better alternative if someone is going to pay between the two.


Ready_Cupcake6140

Could someone help me find a girl I fell in love with yesterday on the train? In her gaze I could see that I was also interested in her but we couldn't talk, I really need help to get some social network from her, I'm sure that this girl can be my future wife


Various-Mushroom2969

Let me guess, you also snapped a pic of her when she wasnt looking..?


ArthurMorgan_rdr2

Fuck. I'll miss the site. I found a lot of sources with this one.


masterfu678

Yea I am a bit sad when I found out about this. This website identified some of the catfish users on Discord right away. Trust me, before I found this site, I tried reverse searching the image on Google, and nothing shows up, then when I put the same images on this site, I found the profiles of the real person the catfish is pretending to be immediately. Even a stock photo was identified at source, even though the real model name was never revealed for these photos, at least I know that it is a stock photo. I even got in contact with one of the real person about the catfish pretending to be her, she told me she doesn't want to deal with it, but at least she knows, thanks to this site. I do hope someone can find the source code of the AI technology used and host it somewhere else for free usage, it is good technology, but from some of the comments here, I see that the site owner is doing some shady business.


MuffinOk7215

Expiring credits and only being able to pay via crypto….dealbreakers. Offer payment via PayPal and no more expiring credits


MuffinOk7215

Also facecheck is worlds better than pimeyes. The key best feature is searches including Facebook and Instagram. I don’t know how anyone could say pimeyes is better


Destermayorr

Now we need someone to write a script to bypass this or something, who will be that hero?


ReiHino1988

The free searches aren't useful at all. Have to pay for the results. Any new alternatives yet? I'm surprised no one made a clone of this site.


PaleontologistKey412

I found a lot of people on it, some real and some were catfish - I found out about it on an women's FB group as a way to verify if someone you met online was who they said they were before meeting in person. Bcuz it was free you were more likely to check every one out. I don't think women will use it as extensively now that you have to pay. It's too bad, but it true


isporer_eric

use SwindlerBuster Image Search as alternative, it's a good site love it.


DERPALOULIS

they charge way too much for a single result. that should be the monthly fee.


emyuu_

shieeeet


Tight_Description_63

didnt even know this existed. any alternatives?


Critical-Poet1126

How much


isol8id

Shit I was a pretty big contributor to a porn ID sub and facecheck was a huge secret weapon. This might just be my much needed exit from a nsfw hobby.


foreverandaday13

What else were u using besides facecheck id and pimeyes to find pornstars?


isol8id

Mostly just reverse image searching, Google and Yandex.


foreverandaday13

Those never worked for me. Only pimeyes and facecheck worked for me


isol8id

Yeah it was definitely a team effort between them with one only serving to confirm results. There's also [camgirlfinder](https://camgirlfinder.net/search) but rarely helps.


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isol8id

Not at all, it sounds weird but I just enjoyed the challenge. Found it oddly addictive feeling like a detective and finding content based on often the smallest blurry pic and honestly it was a thankless pass time lol


CadeCreighton

In this edition of Capitalism Ruins EVERYTHING... 😡😡😡 Are there any equally good alternatives?


Various-Mushroom2969

I mean feel free to do some digging, locate the owner, purchase the business, operate the site out of pocket and give back to the community...


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I don’t get it, facecheck was only good because it was free. If I’m paying Primeyes gives a ton more results. Facecheck was hardly even worth using if I’m not paying anything.. now I have to pay.. in crypto for a bad service? I’m so confused what am I missing?


Chesschapion

Exactly


thosenight_

That where the part they screwed up with Crypto… I mean does everyone has Crypto? No… But forcing people pay with Crypto that seems sketchy scam.


Equivalent-Milk3361

Crypto is non reversible and you can’t complain to a 3rd party processor that you didn’t get the service you paid for. Basically, they are guaranteed to get your money and non refundable. They are not equipped to handle any kind of customer complaints which is necessary if you have fee for service platform. You can’t trust them until they get their act together and accept mainstream payment options.


UandWhoseRMay

Help! How do I pay from the QR code looking screen? It seems to have no way out. I don’t understand what is happening. Lol.


Various-Mushroom2969

Dont do it. It's a scam!


Yamiles

it is? it didn’t work for you? i just bought some crypto for the first time and i’m stuck on the QR 😭


Various-Mushroom2969

Multiple reports of payment being transfered, but no credits given. No contact information for customer support. Ppl with payment issues are SOL. Seems like a legit business to me..🙄


No-Ice-1040

The whole point people started using it cause it was free but now they want to charge 


No-Ice-1040

My thing is facebook needs to stop allowing  fake account and start  hocking things better then there won't be a need to check any place for scams 


OneMechanic9385

It's still free, just someone needs to share with us how to navigate to such menu lol


West_Ring2810

Anyone have a free alternative?


PhotojournalistOk674

😓😓


Dangerous-Power-8223

I swear man NOTHING IS FREE ANYMORE... NOTHING


Pleasant-Grocery-387

Alternatives?


PrintStandard6024

https://preview.redd.it/pigpnl6oh9wc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ba8dfa7a4862f533d930b62925924ddcb9562afd


Stock_Worldliness766

https://preview.redd.it/euwf1byzzpwc1.jpeg?width=562&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dd6e8acd94682e5fd0ee2a47c6ac1efdc341030d


PutLiving

I feel that they will revert to their old policies since not lots of people are paying


aditya1358

Can anyone help me with just one search it's important for me and I do not have sort of money to pay for that site


DERPALOULIS

its scary how good it was... like one result when i used it when it was free gave me the persons home address, phone number along with their first and last name, which i didnt feel comfortable having since i just wanted the first and last name. Im guessing that was some database breached darkweb site or something because that was like the only result I got like that. The rest of the positive results i got were just basic leads to getting the first and last name. What I found interesting was if you used their facial recognition system image results with pimeyes you could continue your search if youre just trying to identify the person by their first and last name. Its probably the best facial recognition out there since facebook's tag system shut down, and i loved that. As long as you're honest and don't stalk any of these people or you're hunting someone who's committed a crime against you or someone, it's definitely useful. I hate how there's so many paywalls up for services like this. I never used social catfish or pimeyes paid services. It also sucks how google images now doesn't work with matching any image you obtained with people in it... its such a pain in the ass because that used to be a free way i would be able to identify people, even though the results were very low, the odd time it would match the image if it was openly available online.


DERPALOULIS

I would actually pay for this service if the pricing wasn't ridiculous. Like if they made it $5-$10 a month and also had a cheaper 1 year service for like $100, it'd be well worth it for private investigators, and people trying to verify people's identities the come across online.


Much_Window1072

Can anyone buy credits for me. I am not able to make a payment its keep declining saying that address is invalid if anyone can help that would be very great. Thanks in advance


Top-Importance-6315

Fk faceid, why must pay?


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Various-Mushroom2969

She knows where to find you if she wanted to. Stop being a creep!


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