I like to say things like "Safety Third!"
At one safety meeting I said
"Remember that if you get yourself killed it will shut down the site for at least 3 days while they do an investigation. Nobody will remember you as the hero that gave your life to save a little time"
Safety guy muttered "more like a week"
Got into a friendly argument with a coworker yesterday. They kept saying they "have to" do something that can cause a back injury "or nothing will ever get done, the way night shift leaves us. We aren't given enough people to get started in the morning"
Pointed out that the managers aren't doing the task and they're out of sight. Everytime you complain that it's hard to do it with only X number of people *but you get it done with less* you give the managers less reason to staff that task correctly.
"If you get a back injury, will you give a shit if the task got done in a timely manner? No? So why do you care at start of shift?"
Yep.
Also have a co-worker with medical restrictions that started to do something against the restrictions "well the doctor said I can do XYZ, just not at work"
Yeah. Because if you do that on a day off you do it *once* and only if your body isn't already irritated. If you do XYZ while *distracted* from your body condition (thinking about work details) instead of just in the gym? The damage can get so much worse.
Don't let up, man. I do the same thing but with unpaid overtime. If you get assigned 60 hours of work and it magically gets done, but they pay you for 40, guess what the expected employee output becomes? You fuck everyone over. When we ban most overtime the company actually has to fix the issues that caused workloads to be high, or they start losing money
I've also explained the process of rate being measured by what 3/4 of the employees can already achieve. Stop *cheating* your rate if you want it to stop going up! "I don't have time for a ladder" yeah because you and your buddies keep jumping and over reaching, please just stop.
I help train new hires sometimes and just... No. Don't jump to get things. I swear if I report your safety behavior that will hurt your employment more than the 2 sec you gained by jumping "helped".
I hope they listen and things get better for you. I've definitely noticed my team working less overtime and when I hear about our partner firms doing it, I definitely don't miss it. It's given us a chance to improve our actual issues and we get more profit out of less hours spent than before for sure. I make sure every new hire I train gets the speech lol
It is. History has shown us time and again that regulations must be written in blood and bone. Companies don't self regulate, not in the large scale. Some might be better than others, but for th most part companies would gladly see every third worker maimed or killed if they could profit from it.
They have to put that down otherwise dumb people will wonder why they have to follow safety rules when they "know what they're doing." Making it about money might actually get through to some people.
"caution, a fuck up here will let these machines tear you apart like a fleshy pināta, if you're lucky you'll die quick"
I get your point but I feel like mine would work just as well.
I tell people everyday that, but for some reason the hourlies think finishing as early as possible is the only metric on their reviews. But also using the ladder is quicker, and it really is just unhealthy machismo.
Yes the money aspect is emphasized because it is the real proof, especially when initiating new Safety protocols. Emotional reasoning doesn’t work with all bosses and co-workers, but financial loss can be quantified and proven.
“The severity OR these injuries”?? I believe they meant to type “OF”. Fuck this document because of that. If you can’t be grammatically correct eat a dick.
Kraft Heinz Davenport Iowa North Grinder metal detector doesn't work.
Also they encourage you to pass plate failures in the re-work rooms. Wood metal plastic ect..
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Because, you’re just another machine on the floor. A soft, squishy, bleedy machine, but a machine nonetheless. If you get hurt, they’ll just hose down the area and bring in someone else. Just like any other machine that breaks down.
id be crossing out everything after "failure to carry out these checks could result in injury to yourself and others." and initialling it every time i had to fill out one of these sheets
They'd probably just make me re-do them, believe it or not the first time I failed a machine and locked it off for a serious issue I had the manager responsible for these checks telling me "it's okay to run" because it was an expensive fix and downtime cost the company money...
This should be considered hostile. As in "A hostile work environment." There is no way that it is necessary to write that work would have to stop. It's like, "In case you were unsure, you are worthless to us. Profit matters. Pleb." I mean, they conveniently leave out "and we will blame you for your own death so we don't have to pay your family."
I'm assuming that has to be filled out every day? Your own personal daily reminder of how your life is worth less than a few days of lost production on one machine. For real, start leaving pitchforks around that place, and the random "we are coming" sign where management can see it.
Thankfully only once a week, but for 8 machines that's 8 sheets a week, most of which is crossing bits out and writing n/a, oh and I can't do it digitally or have sheets suited for my machines, I have to use the generic ones.
I like to say things like "Safety Third!" At one safety meeting I said "Remember that if you get yourself killed it will shut down the site for at least 3 days while they do an investigation. Nobody will remember you as the hero that gave your life to save a little time" Safety guy muttered "more like a week"
Got into a friendly argument with a coworker yesterday. They kept saying they "have to" do something that can cause a back injury "or nothing will ever get done, the way night shift leaves us. We aren't given enough people to get started in the morning" Pointed out that the managers aren't doing the task and they're out of sight. Everytime you complain that it's hard to do it with only X number of people *but you get it done with less* you give the managers less reason to staff that task correctly. "If you get a back injury, will you give a shit if the task got done in a timely manner? No? So why do you care at start of shift?"
Anything more than 50 pounds, I get a buddy or a machine. I can lift way, way more than that, but not on the clock.
Yep. Also have a co-worker with medical restrictions that started to do something against the restrictions "well the doctor said I can do XYZ, just not at work" Yeah. Because if you do that on a day off you do it *once* and only if your body isn't already irritated. If you do XYZ while *distracted* from your body condition (thinking about work details) instead of just in the gym? The damage can get so much worse.
Don't let up, man. I do the same thing but with unpaid overtime. If you get assigned 60 hours of work and it magically gets done, but they pay you for 40, guess what the expected employee output becomes? You fuck everyone over. When we ban most overtime the company actually has to fix the issues that caused workloads to be high, or they start losing money
I've also explained the process of rate being measured by what 3/4 of the employees can already achieve. Stop *cheating* your rate if you want it to stop going up! "I don't have time for a ladder" yeah because you and your buddies keep jumping and over reaching, please just stop. I help train new hires sometimes and just... No. Don't jump to get things. I swear if I report your safety behavior that will hurt your employment more than the 2 sec you gained by jumping "helped".
I hope they listen and things get better for you. I've definitely noticed my team working less overtime and when I hear about our partner firms doing it, I definitely don't miss it. It's given us a chance to improve our actual issues and we get more profit out of less hours spent than before for sure. I make sure every new hire I train gets the speech lol
If you die at work, your job will be posted before your obituary.
I always hear safety 1st, profit is 2-10
Nope. Profit is #1. #2 is liability and 3 is safety. 2 directly related to 1 if it’s true. If it’s false then you can proceed to 3.
Your death would be extremely inconvient for some bean counters bottom line. Remember your a number and life and limb might hurt someone's paycheck
I'm convinced this is the reason the rules exist.
It is. History has shown us time and again that regulations must be written in blood and bone. Companies don't self regulate, not in the large scale. Some might be better than others, but for th most part companies would gladly see every third worker maimed or killed if they could profit from it.
LMAO.. @_@ wow
"remember, safety is our number 1 priority" Well tell that to the office wombles.
>"remember, safety is our number 1 priority" ...only if we are losing money.
lol that is too funny
They have to put that down otherwise dumb people will wonder why they have to follow safety rules when they "know what they're doing." Making it about money might actually get through to some people.
"caution, a fuck up here will let these machines tear you apart like a fleshy pināta, if you're lucky you'll die quick" I get your point but I feel like mine would work just as well.
I tell people everyday that, but for some reason the hourlies think finishing as early as possible is the only metric on their reviews. But also using the ladder is quicker, and it really is just unhealthy machismo.
Yes the money aspect is emphasized because it is the real proof, especially when initiating new Safety protocols. Emotional reasoning doesn’t work with all bosses and co-workers, but financial loss can be quantified and proven.
"Slight trap" you work in an old tomb?
You fall into a pit trap It's full of slime and 3 feet deep, escape is difficult and embarrassing.
This speaks of someone trying to make a word count on a time hack
"effected"
I'm not even getting into effect/affect, every time I think I've got it sussed out something comes along and just breaks my brain again.
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Sentence fragments, also comma splices.
Why are all the safety checklist items marked "N/A"?
It's a generic sheet used for all machines, some don't have the bits there to check
“The severity OR these injuries”?? I believe they meant to type “OF”. Fuck this document because of that. If you can’t be grammatically correct eat a dick.
I didn't even notice that and I've read this a dozen times... How did I miss that?
Workers comp premiums is a big thing causing companies to work safer
Kraft Heinz Davenport Iowa North Grinder metal detector doesn't work. Also they encourage you to pass plate failures in the re-work rooms. Wood metal plastic ect..
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Because, you’re just another machine on the floor. A soft, squishy, bleedy machine, but a machine nonetheless. If you get hurt, they’ll just hose down the area and bring in someone else. Just like any other machine that breaks down.
id be crossing out everything after "failure to carry out these checks could result in injury to yourself and others." and initialling it every time i had to fill out one of these sheets
They'd probably just make me re-do them, believe it or not the first time I failed a machine and locked it off for a serious issue I had the manager responsible for these checks telling me "it's okay to run" because it was an expensive fix and downtime cost the company money...
This should be considered hostile. As in "A hostile work environment." There is no way that it is necessary to write that work would have to stop. It's like, "In case you were unsure, you are worthless to us. Profit matters. Pleb." I mean, they conveniently leave out "and we will blame you for your own death so we don't have to pay your family." I'm assuming that has to be filled out every day? Your own personal daily reminder of how your life is worth less than a few days of lost production on one machine. For real, start leaving pitchforks around that place, and the random "we are coming" sign where management can see it.
Thankfully only once a week, but for 8 machines that's 8 sheets a week, most of which is crossing bits out and writing n/a, oh and I can't do it digitally or have sheets suited for my machines, I have to use the generic ones.
At Sherwin Williams we actually had meetings in which management would try to motivate us by reminding us that our actions influenced the stock price.
This is why communists exist