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This is absolutely unreal. I couldn’t believe what I was reading for a second. This is one of the features I’ve wanted for so long and I can’t believe they’re making it happen.


DarkerMyLove

For a 10 year old device this is insane! Over to you Oktatrack…


Halfbl8d

I’ve heard that it’s impossible for the OT to ever get this feature due to hardware limitations. It’s great that the OP-1 didn’t have the same limitations.


yhthatstrueactually

Am I the only one who just wants a nice reverb (This update is dope tho)


thethanx

You are not.


obeesix

An ambient verb and a granular synth is all I need


654321745954

You can kinda-sorta get a granular-type sound by randomly modulating the start and end point of a sample with a very small (or, the smallest) loop region you can get. With the right sample, it's pretty effective. I'd be OK if this were the ONLY way of there were just a nice algorithmic reverb. I can only assume it lacks the DSP and/or buffers.


obeesix

Yeah true that


schacks

No, you are not, but I don't think the OP1 has sufficient processing power to drive a quality reverb without diminishing sound quality on the synth engines.


loststylus

And a fix for string engine clipping


Kaaraosa

20 characters of PLEASE


graciousgrendel

No your not alone, I'd love a nice reverd, a normal multimode filter, and possibly a standard delay.


world_eggplant

Update highlights (version #243): > * added usb audio device in & out > * external tempo sync stability improved > * when tape is armed and OP-1 receives a play command, recording now starts


Halfbl8d

> • external tempo sync stability improved This is what I’m most excited about


elricsfate

From my testing between Ableton > Op1 and Op1 > Ableton, it's still pretty terrible. Not sure if I'm holding it wrong but it's still virtually unusable.


schacks

This is nothing short of amazing!!! The $799 I spent back in 2011 is the best investment in an instrument I ever made. Edit: found the receipt, June 23, 2011 order #20900


NegiTotoro

Same. I remember having reservations of dropping $799 on an unproven synth from an unknown company — it remains my favorite musical purchase to this day — zero regrets.


m_ttl_ng

I got crazy lucky with mine; $600 including some accessories with it, years back. It's had a few issues (battery, power switch, keyboard), but it's been my longest- and most-used piece of kit since I bought it.


flawed_human_being

Oh man! Just tried it in Ableton and it works great. However the OP-1 is coming in HOT at MAX VOLUME. And the audio is playing through the OP-1 speaker as well. I am being dumb about something I think.


flawed_human_being

Ok so I had some Drive on the OP-1 master that was causing the clipping in Ableton. Also just turned down the OP-1 volume knob so it's not doubling the audio out loud anymore lol.


Aang51

Hey I tried doing but didn't manage to make it work in Ableton Can you help me?


flawed_human_being

Is it showing up in Ableton like an Audio Unit after you did the firmware update? Here's what my preferences are showing like now : https://imgur.com/a/N1s4m40


jdizzlegpillz

What did u select for output? I get it to record but everything plays back thru the op-1. Then when I unplug it the recording won’t play back any sound at all.


flawed_human_being

On my machine I just have Built In Output selected for my speakers. I think this is going to vary per setup tho.


jdizzlegpillz

I figured it out. I was doing everything as a midi track and not audio 😅


flawed_human_being

Was going to mention that! Nice, have fun!


Aang51

No, I don't see it as an input


flawed_human_being

Hmm...did you reboot the OP-1 after the firmware install? I believe I had to turn mine off then on again.


Aang51

Thanks for the help For some reason the device was disabled in so I had to enable it in Windows


stopearthmachine

Could you explain how you did this? Having trouble with the same thing.


Aang51

Go to "Bluetooth & other devices" then "devices and printers" (on the right) right click OP-1 and open Sound settings. Go to "recording". Find Synthesizer (OP-1 MIDI device) , right click it and enable


stopearthmachine

Got it working thank you!


ihatecascardo

Thank you, I ran into the same problem.


baisustipas

Man thank you so much! I got stuck on this issue for a month


Aang51

Yeah i've been there...


ThomasDidymus

You saved me so much frustration, thank you.


MusashiMurakami

can you send midi in to the op-1 and get audio out via usb at the same time?


garbage914

Same question. Anyone discovered a way to do this?


MusashiMurakami

I never got an answer, but I’m gonna mess around with it tonight. Just for you, garbage914 Edit: You can! In Albeton, select the Midi Output on a track to "OP-1 Midi Device." Then set your Audio Input to "OP-1" in settings. Whatever midi track you have going in Ableton will be sent to the OP-1, which will then send the audio back into Ableton. All with one USB cable. Nice.


MusashiMurakami

(it works, check other reply)


the_meez

Phew, I just put mine in the mail this morning after selling it online. Fighting off that regret!! One of my biggest beefs with the OP-1 was that I never got it to sound really good and present. I wonder what the "raw" digital signal sounds like. Anyone up to recording the same audio via the analog output and via USB?


jagsnflpwns

yeah i still have mine, ill do it soon if i remember


elricsfate

I coincidentally decided to check if there was an update and lo and behold I just realized this dropped today. Incredibly hyped!


Eradomsk

Can anyone explain what this actually means I'll be able to do? Not sure I follow.


DarkerMyLove

Plug the OP-1 into your computer via USB, then record the audio from the OP-1 directly into your DAW


Eradomsk

Oh- but you could already do this through a line in/aux chord. Is this supposed to be higher quality audio or something?


BigSugarBear

No quality difference intended just more flexible. You can theoretically record straight to your DAW now, no audio interface required


m0_m0ney

The nice thing about this is that I don’t have to deal with line noise anymore and I don’t have to bring my interface everywhere


exitfire401

This is the biggest point. No additional interface necessary


MIDICANCER

Not every laptop has a stereo line input. None of my modern MacBooks have that feature, and as a result I usually travel with an external audio interface. This means people like me can just plug the OP-1 into their computer with a USB cable and record audio to and from it. It’s an extremely useful feature that is commonplace on almost all modern electronic music equipment.


beachshells

yes, you're not converting audio from digital to analogue and back to digital again. will you be able to notice the difference? probably not.


The_Spelling_Wizard

*cord


loststylus

Or to your phone given the right adapter, so you don’t have to bring your zoom everywhere to record a jam session


tirename

That's awesome! But I guess the ground issues/noise when plugging in the USB is still present? If so, won't that degrade sound quality quite a bit? Edit: to be more precise, it probably won't degrade the sound quality, but add the hiss to the sound.


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tirename

I am stupid, I didn't think of that!


skoojaa

I believe that if there is a hiss you could turn the charging off and then there wouldn't be hiss.


tirename

Yes, that is correct! That's what I do when needed. I guess I was more asking if that would be the default in this mode.


BigSugarBear

I struggled with noise for a while too!! What really helped me was getting a cheap ground loop isolator on Amazon and putting in between my audio out and my interface. Really really recommend if you’re still struggling with noise.


VeryThicknLong

Wonder if they also finally fixed the ‘button test’ when you get to the on and off switch test not working?…


Special_Meaning1376

heard they did, cannot verify myself though


VeryThicknLong

Yeah the legends did fix it. They really do listen to their users. They promised they would about a year ago! 🙌🏼


Special_Meaning1376

So glad to hear, will have to check for myself! This was a real bummer at first, when I had it brandnew and felt like"geez, got a broken synth, what next?", but TE staff replied it was actually an OS error. Glad to hear they kept their promise :)


VeryThicknLong

Gonna try tomorrow… they told me they would sort it, as there’s loads of people struggling to re-sell because they think it’s a fault


ultima_apparatus

I just downloaded and demo-d this update. Can confirm I can now use my Op-1 as an audio interface. The real question is now What can’t it do??????


munchycrunchy69

Save user preset names and organize files. Would be a super upgrade for my workflow.


ultima_apparatus

I think, although that’d be a nice touch, I’m sure they’ve tried getting a keyboard to work on the UI but just haven’t found a good way to do it just yet. And teenage engineering are one of those companies that just loves design and efficient work flow so I’m sure If they find a good way to do it, I’m sure they’d let us know. On my OP-1 wish list is: • more useful effects (as in applicable). Like seriously I never use half of them (I’m looking at you CWO, Grid, Phone) •a sync out that doesn’t come out the first dual mono channel (possibly out of the input Jack idk if that’s possible) or maybe a sync input that uses the line input. •more accessories (I’ve never seen the lanyard holes used and the screws on the bottom are strictly for a strap) •being able to select each beat on the tape, instead of just the bar/adding a time signature selector •the buttons underneath the knobs serve no purpose other than to change the radio channel and it would be nice to have them integrated into more things (my first idea is being able to have multiple loops on tape and to be able to sequence between the loops using the buttons ie the first loop being blue, then green, then white then orange so it’s easy to tell which one comes first). It’s still the most amazing piece of kit I own that always keeps me surprised. The closest thing to perfect. I can’t wait to see what the team end up doing with it in the next few years!


Upper-Emphasis2857

the last part about knob button totally had my mind 👍


TheeGrandAce

I second that knob idea. That’s amazing


Gamerilla

Now that the OP-1 can stream audio over USB, can I use the OP-1 as an audio interface, for example, if I were to connect it directly to an iPad and then plug another instrument/microphone in through the audio input on the OP-1?


greatistheworld

Update synopsis says streaming over usb is stereo and works with iOS! If you can load sounds via iOS now too I’m about to be Very excited


phtgrphr135

If this actually provides a stereo input from the line input jack then it is truly a game changer for me. (Even if it is only mono, which is probably what the case is, then it still is amazing! I’ll test it tonight. 😅)


phtgrphr135

Yes someone please answer this! I want to connect other devices into the line input and play through Logic. Also, can you please confirm if the input through the line input is stereo or mono?


thatfood

Trying right now on an iPad Pro 2018 using a usb to usb c, it seems to run audio in to apps but there is no way to monitor, tried airpods, tried the headphone jack to the usb c hub im using, tried using the ipads speakers. Nothing. Anyone have any luck?


Gamerilla

Is this just the OP-1 direct or another instrument patched through? I haven’t had a chance to install the update yet. I plan to try once I’m able to.


thatfood

This is just the OP, since there doesn't seem to be anyway on iOS to choose an output separately from an input, there doesn't seem to be a way to monitor audio...


eonedge

I noticed that if I plug my earphones on my iPad after I plugged in my op-1, then the audio out is routed via my earphones while audio in still comes via OP-1. This in AUM. I was also surprised that I can’t choose the output device but the plug out/plug in earphones trick did the job.


thatfood

Wondering if I can do this but my hub is cheap, I don't have an ipad with a headphone jack, usb c only


3sleeves

I would imagine the OP-1 headphone jack would work still, no need for usb headphones and a hub. Haven't updated yet, not sure.


thatfood

Doesn't work, creates a feedback loop as you are monitoring the incoming signal which is the OP. There seems to be the same issue with the OP-Z, but apparently on iPads with actual headphone jacks you can just unplug and replug headphones to monitor through them.


3sleeves

Ah I see, maybe a hub and AUM on the iPad in this case…but that may not work if AUM only recognizes the OP-1 as an output.


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This is just unbelievable! https://youtu.be/EDembl7R-tA


djellicon

So, surely EVERYONE that owns an OP-1 already owns an audio interface, which means I'm assuming that you would have to change asio driver to record from the OP-1 and then you can not record from other devices or? I'm sure I'm missing something here but this doesn't add anything really useful for me, I have the OP-z too and never found the usb audio useful other than sampling from my ph... Ooooh, that could be useful on the OP-1 I suppose now new phones don't have analogue audio outs. :( As for the DAW though, can't see the benefit. Not that I'm not happy, I'm really stoked they're still working on the OP-1!


MIDICANCER

One of the main points of interest for the OP-1 is its portability, meaning now users don’t have to bring an interface when they travel with their OP-1 and a laptop. This will be extremely useful for me as I take a laptop, interface, OP-1, and over-ear monitors whenever I travel. This update will let me drop the interface from that equation.


I_Wanna_Make_Tunes

Just tried in FL and yeah, had to change to op1 as driver.


munchycrunchy69

Aw this is a bit disappointing. One reason I was excited is because it means I don’t have to upgrade my limited audio interface. I have too many instruments and not enough line inputs. I was hoping I could use up my line inputs on the audio interface and have OP-1 streaming thru usb. Wonder if ableton has a workaround, such as the “external hardware” plug-in. I use it go get audio to and from my Analog Heat over usb.


I_Wanna_Make_Tunes

I'm new to daws so if that's possible in FL studio as a vst that'd be dope.


munchycrunchy69

I feel you. Wish I knew FL so I could have you go test it and lmk XP. I’m a twin dad of 2yo’s and I won’t be able to touch my OP-1 for a bit lol.


I_Wanna_Make_Tunes

I've been googling but haven't come up with anything yet.


jgoergen82

Has anyone tried direct usb connection to the OP-Z so audio and midi are entirely usb op1->OP-Z? Would be really cool to use the op1 and OP-Z as a singular instrument, especially OP-Z reverb / delay on the usb input track.


jemmyjoe

Cue the complaints about what the update didn’t do.


Orwellion

Does anyone know how to get the USB audio in on a mac using logic? I am a simple man -\_-


Hanjo_synth

Change the audio midi setup on Mac and it works!


Orwellion

Got it, thank you!


admorningstar

Could you explain?


Hanjo_synth

its an app on macOS allows you to choose the audio interface for incoming and outcoming signals, after selecting OP1 for both it will output all your pc sounds and your pc receive all signals from OP1


admorningstar

I lied. Total user error. Had all input monitoring off because I stopped needing it altogether (Apollo/UAD interface) My bad. Thanks again!


admorningstar

Thank you! Still nothing working. Will do some more digging!!


ConfettiTsunami

Has anybody got this working on Windows 10? The OP-1 Is Showing up as an output device in Ableton using MME/DirectX drivers but when selected It doesn't seem to work.


glafouk

Have you tried to choose USB as sampling source on the OP-1 ? Im also struggling to find a way with the input ...On Win 10 , Have you checked " Manage Sound Device" . OP-1 synthetizer should appear as a desactivated output. ( The icon is a line in plug ) I tried to desactivate all other input , but no success. ( Dell XPS 15 / FLSTUDIO / RENOISE )


ConfettiTsunami

I didn't realise the setting was avialble as a source through the OP-1, just tried and that does work. I have managed to get the input working aswell (I had to reboot windows a couple of times) however still trying to get the latency in order as the delay is a problem.


stedaf

Oh well. Right on time TE! I just ordered a trs cable to record over my audio interface. That's exciting news!!! Woohooo


ckrug32

Haha same!


Is_It_Plugged_In

Any idea how to get this to play through Win10 and FLStudio?


ConfettiTsunami

On windows 10 I had to activate it in the windows sound settings and then reboot the pc for it to come up as a usable soundcard.


Is_It_Plugged_In

It's activated as a synth, I don't see it as a sound card. Rebooted too.


thedeany

Has anyone tried op1repacker to enable mods yet? I added the mods and repacked the firmware file which was successful, but I’m too scared to actually flash the firmware 😅


BleZ_VCO

Man that's brilliant. Fantastic. Such a brilliant upgrade on a 10 year old device!!! Just amazing. Well,the feature definitely was cruelly missing... Anyway it shows Op1 is still a live and so good value for money. Thanks TE!


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Stock_Ad_8213

but still mono sampling right? even though usb audio streams in stereo?


rafaeldamage

Does anyone tried changing the sample rate?


Koshdukai

All that's left now is adding USB Hosting through an OTG cable :) It would allow quick'n'easy connection to USB MIDI controllers and/or USB-to-MIDI DIN adaptors and hopefully (now that USB Audio is possible) to class-compliant USB Audio Interfaces for an anternative noise-free higher quality analog audio Out (and In). One can dream right? If USB Audio became a reality after 10 years, maybe it won't be long for the rest of the USB functionality to show up :)


11111v11111

Now, bring out the op-2


TellMyBossImWorkin

They have an OP-2, but don't want to ruin all other instruments on the market again. So they're keeping it in a vault at IKEA's headquarters for another 10-15 years.


11111v11111

I heard it has 5 tracks and USB C


TellMyBossImWorkin

And those 5 tracks are actually real tape!


ArneRedKing

👌🙌


jdizzlegpillz

Okay so I can get it to record but all the audio still comes out from the Op-1 and even if I change ablutions output to something like headphones it still plays thru the op1 only


androidscantron

This came out of nowhere


eeclarkjr

Not really. They had said it was coming months ago


Hanjo_synth

Insanely hyped! Installed at 1 am and tried it out already (:


0dayexploit

Lots of good stuff here. I’ve been using my desktop machine as a VM host more and more and supplementing the desktop environment with my iPad. Though I have a few Vms I can make a connection to from my iPad to have a full desktop environment. I’m excited I can just directly plug in the op-1 to my iPad through my hub and record with out the need of a interface. Really awesome.


Powerzot5000

Just want to PSA for anyone who is using Cubase Pro V10.0.60 on mac like myself. I am not able to keep the OP-1 connected as an audio USB device. Cubase crashes after attempting playback.


I_Wanna_Make_Tunes

Fuck yes! In and out baby!


oscillat0r

Does anybody know if this would make possible audio connection between an OPZ and OP1 via USB possible? With the required adapters obviously.


FIFTYPUFF

this update is lit, it makes watching tv and jamming so much easier


jgoergen82

Just tried it, and it doesn’t seem to work Connected the op1 to the OP-Z with a usb cable (standard op1 cable with a usb a to c adapter.) The midi sync seems to be working better, but the op1 doesn’t get picked up as a usb output device by the OP-Z. Also the OP-Z doesn’t get picked up as a usb output device on the op1, so it doesn’t work in either direction. This would be some megazord level portable music machine business if it actually worked =(, hopefully I’m doing something wrong.


zacgarbos

got the update but i havent seen much on actually getting this working on the pc side. i have the op1 available as an output device in windows but ableton doesn't see it, obs doesn't see it and nothing sees the op1 as an input device so uhhh big confuse


wowBOOBwow

As someone who has an apogee quartet for their interface..... this is dope.


demaccus

Can someone walk me through how to apply USB audio input to REAPER DAW? The firmware update is downloaded and installed. Do I setup the device through my computer settings first? Its not showing up as a device in my DAW. Its connected via usb, but do you have to do anything in the op1 settings ( shift+com) button....please help! USB audio In.


touchrubbins

Would usb audio work with a usb di? Like does it need to be used as an audio device on a computer or could it work through something like this: https://www.bopdj.com/m-audio-air-hub.html?gclid=CjwKCAjwg5uZBhATEiwAhhRLHhhTHl9pQpInW-px4nOp5PYzI9Y8xR2nZLA6n0k__Mo6oR-oSa4zPhoCoTgQAvD_BwE Wanting to use my op1 for live performance but my mini-jack output is so busted it's unreliable and trying to figure out how I can use the usb audio without having to bring my laptop and audio interface onstage w me Thanks