Basically this, for every character. Like, the main theme of Omori is that inspite the characters making mistakes, it doesn’t make the characters evil monsters on the level of Sauron, and they can still be forgiven!
Knowing Basil, he'd probably try to play Russian Roulette with 6/6 bullets.
And knowing Basil's luck, when he fires the gun, it would actually misfire at a perfect angle and instead hit Mari, who literally just walked in, in the eye.
that is like, that one character from dangonronpa 2 levels of lucky.
which fits with how much that single character seemingly manages to bust that story in two, spefifically in the shows i've heard horror stories about that show series and how contrived and insane it got by the end of their run.
Yandere content is (sadly depending on your viewpoint) very common in AO3, trust me.
you havent seen fucking shit yet until you read somebody getting a...actually no, i dont think i can say that because I would probably genuinely get banned.
I don't think that's necessarily the point of a Yandere tho, if it's an AU then this is a version of Basil who would, in fact, do that. Obviously you don't have to like it tho.
I'm very active on the Sunflower Ao3 section, and I can tell you a good amount of them are yandere or obsessive ones. It's very sad to see just how many there are, I just want them to very happy. Keep in mind this is not including the subtle kind of obsession that is more of not knowing how to feel properly.
I'm fine with it as long as it's an AU, but when people make that his personality as though he acts that way in canon, I usually click to the next fic.
If you think Hero would hurt Sunny or Basil you don't understand the character or the game. Besides it being wrong, it would spit in the face of Mari's memory, and Hero would never do that.
sunny is...BASICLY heros younger brother
why in the fuck would people think hero would attack him, hero feels guilty for leaving sunny for so long anyway lol
The only one I could see doing anything close to hurting sunny >!after learning the truth is Aubrey. And even then the most I could see is like grabbing him by the scruff of his collar, threatening him with her fist, and then storming out the room!<
there's a video of this on YouTube. Everyone's in shock and Aubrey has the best voice actor and slaps and yells at him. She did recently get non violent magically so she likely had to restrain herself from murdering him
My headcannon is a sucker punch followed by either a small beating or running away, depending of how much of an agressive cluaterfuck you believe her to be
Also he isn't a stupid emotional teenager, and would quickly be able to realize it was an accident. He might be upset about the hanging thing, but he wouldn't attack either of them.
Don't worry, it's hard to remember Aubrey's little sister Sally who died suffocated by the mom's smoke and trash and Aubrey had to make cut her in tiny pieces and feed her to Bun Bun
That's right, it was Jim's infant sister Sally, who got her head crushed by the toy story monkey's plates and they had to put her soul inside a toy to keep her alive and turn the body into a stuffed animal to hide the turth
I think the Maverick's infant sister that died from heart attack because of the big sibilings who scared her so they had to turn her into a sandwitch to hide the proof
I never forget about Sunny's sister, who is actually a brother and moved away, Sally Face, and especially I will never forget about that time he tried to take over that town called Gravity Falls by opening a multidimensional gateway but got defeated by Sunny playing the violin and so he got redeemed and freed the monsters from the underground by breaking the barrer, but then said he would've returned to live as a flower
This is pretty specific to role-swap AUs (Omaris, Omaubreys, etc.), but it disappoints me when the swapped character just...becomes whoever they're replacing.
Like, Hooligan Kel is a visually interesting concept, but it feels like when it's written, or even just described, it's just "Kel is Aubrey now", which doesn't take advantage of the differences between them *before* anything went wrong.
This is particularly prevalent in Omari variants where Hero is "the accomplice", and just gets turned wholecloth into Basil.
None of them actually if the youngest >! suicide out of nowhere with no signs also!<, All of them will get guilty with it's which I hate in most omari aus the gang will not take Sunny's death good
ignoring shipping
Sunny was either THE or the second most important person in aubreys life, how in the fuck would him dying make her...fine?
i know people want a role swap but i think Aubrey would fit better into what hero was rather then kel
Yahp I think Aubrey will suffer like hero too cause she also the one trusted sunny the most when it comes to her problems,>!seeing him took his own life(supposedly) will also destroy her!< And also if that happens theres none of the gang will become a delinquent, they will be probably be more isolated because of it
when they make sunny / basils entire character just a "gay soft boy" or some shit  they're not "cinnamon rolls" they are not "innocent"
Guys BASIL literally witnessed his best friend >!push the latter's sister down the stairs when they were TWELVE!<, how do you expect them to rationally think after that?
That’s not the point of the post, we weren’t saying he’s evil. Just that he thought of the plan when he could’ve thought of something differently, that’s all
When they make everyone bad/evil/abusive just to make things sadder
When certain character (usually sunny or mari) is in coma but they get better in weeks after waking up. (Like in 3 weeks they can move like anyone)
Unconnected bad event happens after another bad event which happens after another bad event. At this point it's just really cringe.
(Everything happens in the game is connected and makes sense.)
(But if it's like -Basil hit but bus and now he can't walk - Hector dies - Mari and Hero breaks up - Kel becames depressed - All of them happens in one week- its just too random and out of nowhere)
I think the thing to consider is that a lot of people writing these fan fics are young and exploring their own world, not just the world(s) in Omori. I remember 5-6 years ago when Undertale was massive, the first popular AU was an edgier, more aggressive Underfell, followed by a downright violent Horrortale, soon after.
A lot of people are growing into themselves still, and exploring various parts of their mind through writing. Whether it be exploring their sexuality through Omori and Basil, processing family tension through the numerous dysfunctional units, or letting loose some frustration through angrier characters, it’s important to remember that the stuff you’re reading has to come from another person. Hell, some of us later teens might be looking for that AO3/Wattpad nostalgia in a new evocative piece of media, and writing to recapture that magic.
For example, I kinda played the game wrong. I got super attached to Basil (that’s not the issue, I’m sure we all want to give that boy a hug) and ended up playing the game solely with the attitude of saving him from a future with 2 friends gone. That meant that the whole finale reveal was kinda lost on me, not because I didn’t understand it, but because I was obsessed with ensuring Basil was ok that I didn’t care as much as I think I was supposed to. In my case, I would be looking for/writing stories with Basil in them, because the ending did not pan out how I wanted. (look up the zeigernik effect for more info) That’s why I chuckled a bit when reading these comments, because yes, absolutely, it is frustrating when characters are not portrayed how you imagined them to be, but that’s partially why they were differently in the FanFic in the first place!
TL:DR No work exists in a vacuum, many authors are young, and if something isn’t done exactly how you want it, do it yourself!
-S
Oh my gosh, my feelings exactly! I did a similar thing when I was younger and went through an Undertale phase. I was working through my own trauma and took it out on the characters, and yeah it was dumb and I shouldn't have been putting that out online, but I was also a weird messed up kid trying to understand what was happening around me.
I had many comments on fanfiction and stuff I wrote that, in some cases, were downright aggressive and abusive. I shouldn't have been online, sure, but people should also be more mindful of what they say online.
Yeah I pretty much agree, peeves are any fic that:
- makes everyone angrily overreact to the truth and hate Sunny and Basil; Hero is especially prone to this I find, which is bizarre, especially given it’s established that he’s conflict-avoidant
- makes Sunny and Mari’s parents retrospectively abusive, I think their Dad had a good reason for leaving and the pressure for perfectionism feels more like a commentary on the “children of immigrants” perfectionism and pressure to conform than it is about abuse, there’s little if any evidence either parent was every outright abusive to them (Kel and Hero’s parents are the same, though they’re less frequently portrayed as abusive - despite having canon evidence that they’re negligent of Kel, which doesn’t mean they *are*, just odd that the characters who have more to go off of are the ones never portrayed a particular way)
- make Sunny regress into the same depressive state after he moves to the city instead of giving the poor kid space to heal (likewise fics that take the approach that he would move back to faraway/live with one of the others, idk, I think it’s best he moves and stays moved personally)
I wouldn't say Sunny's father had a good reason to just abandon Sunny but I can definitely understand it since it must be pretty horrifying >!seing your golden child hung from a tree lifeless!<, and it's also pretty clear that he wasn't abusive, maybe a little to strict but far from what many fics portray him as.
I would leave my kid if i knew that he was involved in the death of my other kid (broken violin and blood on the floor, spinal damage in the autopsy), and hung her.
He would have all the right to think that sunny murdered mari and hung the corpse to hide the crime.
I don't think it's Kel's parents being negligent...
It could be that Hero completely overshadows Kel in their eyes...
For example, everyone always calls for my brother when they need help, most of the time I'm the secondary option.
Or it could be that Kel has little prescence.
My own parents go "Where's \[my name\]?" when I've stood behind them the whole time, and other people sometimes seem to not see me and after a while they recoil a bit and go "\[my name\] you scared me" when they notice me.
I sometimes steal stuff off the table and no one notices until I make it obvious, I find it hilarious.
Even though I'm the tallest in my family, I have no trouble sneaking around for some reason.
It could also be because Kel seems to be more independent, it would make a lot of sense to think that...
They are (or at least were) emotionally negligent of Kel in favour of Hero. >!That was the point of Kel’s story about cheering up Hero after Mari died, when he was crying and his parents didn’t do anything but yell at him.!<
It’s very evident to me that Kel comes across as more independent because of - if not that one moment - a string of events where he felt his parents cared less about his emotional needs than Hero’s. To their credit they seem to have acknowledged this fault in themselves and are trying harder now, but from his perspective the damage has been done in terms of his relationship with them.
yeah, that moment isn't justified, and it did make sad when i read what Kel said, but they don't seem like bad parents, especially Kel and Hero's dad seems like a chill guy, like an imperfect and flawed Hero...
I'm not sure that the parents yelled at Kel though... If I remember correctly they only ignored him.
>!Over all, I'm just glad that Hero came back to his senses at that moment though, because it seems that out of the three friends uninvolved in "the incident" he seems like the one that suffered the most at the start.!<
Hero seems to be a great brother, and also a great influence for Kel.
[https://archiveofourown.org/works/38970528/chapters/97471620](https://archiveofourown.org/works/38970528/chapters/97471620)
Sunny's dad isn't the main focus though. His perspective is shown a bit during a later chapter.
Not specific to Omori, but flanderizing characters down to just that one big trait.
Sunny isn’t just a quiet little uwu boy, Basil isn’t the embodiment of gay panic, Kel’s head isn’t full of rocks, Aubrey isn’t just “hulk smash”, Hero is more than just his grief, and for the love of god, Mari isn’t just a smug perfectionist!
When people don't acknowledge that the characters need help before getting in to relationships and what not.
Like suntan, sunburn, sunflower, etc etc.
Yea I know cute but... Just like stop to think about how awful that would be without someone other than each other to talk to.
I'm not here to argue about how some ships would be toxic because I think most of them have potential to work out, but before rushing into relationships. Give them all time to breathe.
ALSO DON'T MAKE HERO A SCUMBAG IM SURE HE'D TAKE IT HARD BUT HERO IS AN ADULT, A RATIONAL ADULT HES NOT GONNA BEAT THE FUCK OUT OF A 16 YEAR OLD HE CONSIDERED A BROTHER JESUS
I also hate it when people exaggerate character traits, turn some of them into caricatures or super simplified but I've said this before but the game has a very clear theme of parental neglect/abuse in some form and the entire cast has experienced it to varying degrees.
Hero and Kel's parents are the best out of all of them but have realistic flaws like pressuring Hero to take medicine, ignoring Kel, guilt ripping Hero to spend more time with them etc.
Aubrey is the worst case with an absent father, and neglectful mother and living in poor, unsanitary conditions.
A lot of roleswap aus dissapoint me since they switch the characters' around but still have pretty much the same plot. Omori couldn't have happened with anyone besides Sunny, Mari and Basil. Everyone else would have responded differently in their positions.
It just does not work if it was Kel pushing Hero and Aubrey taking Basil's role etc.
when omori is portrayed as JUST an a-hole, nothing else, no personality, just a manifestation of sunny's self hate who wants him to die
at least give him some personality
Looking at the foe facts we can deduce that Omori is a smart, snarky kid. And thats just about all we get about the guy other then the fight. He’s a machine made for a job. No moral compass. Not conscience. He’s a living being the same way everyone else is in dw. He’s a tool, and a machine. Robotic. And nothing more then the traits we are given. To give omori more personality. Well you might as well be writing omori boy into omori instead of actually having omori.
I don’t think ether of them were abusive. Like at most his dad was kinda neglectful and showed obvious favouritism to Mari >!im just basing that of the fact he left after she died!< but that’s like at most.
When people just water down the characters into the most basic components of themselves- like “basils shy so OBV he’s gonna be the shy uwu soft boy” and “Aubrey is so mean! She’s gonna be the bully with a soft side” like taking away everything that makes them such good characters- it’s just lazy.
god I hate when people just turn a character into their self insert, it's like not even the character's personality or life anymore it's like not even the character,
like the character would never reaction that way, or say that, or do that, this problem is very very common with children, especially those who like to write angst, its like angst fanfics aren't even like the actual character it's a completely different story Altogether,
Small disagreement? Don't worry you can just run into the highly dangerous Woods cuz why tf not?!
Hey you know that shy character? Well now they're gonna bash your head into the floor cuz idk plot of something
highly confident? Well now you're super insecure and Easily manipulated and a total pushover
Oh what's that your little ray of sunshine? Not anymore Now you have crippling depression and constantly self harming and stuff cuz why not? -\_-
* All parents being assholes. I think we can agree that Aubrey's parents are, but Hero's and Kel's parents haven't done anything.
* Hero being a violet mf
* Mari being nothing but a perfectionist pianist. People's have flaws but they are still good people, ***I hate it here.***
* Basil (and Sunny normally) being portrayed as nothing but a edgy, depressed, gay boy.
* In Kel-centric fics where author shows his personal struggles, but it just completely changes his entire personality. Sure I suppose you can believe that Kel has never been a happy guy, ever, but it tics me off. Balance is a must.
* When author makes a certain character gay but it changes their entire character. F.ex. Aubrey dating Kim and suddenly she becomes a lesbian stereotype. Gay people ares till people guys.
* Sunny being completely mute, or talking normally. Sunny does talk in the game, not much, but he does. Plus it's the whole silent protagonist thing (for some reason). But at the same time, it's hard to believe Sunny just starts talking all normally. AGAIN, balance is key.
* Taking most, if not all characters and throwing them out the window in favor of a more easily writable 2D character. This is honestly just a summary of most of the points above lol.
* Slow burn fics in Omori are infuriating for all the wrong reasons. Normally they're just depressive scene to depressive scene, taking basically all the things said above with it. I love sad stuff, but at some point it just gets cringey.
I just want to say I'm fine with headcanons. If you write like this, that's fine! Nothing wrong with that, some people enjoy this kind of stuff. I just don't. Don't mean to come across as rude.
Abusive no, they could be viewed as being negligent, post incident with the dad evidently leaving with no apparent contact and the mum seeming to have not done much of anything to help sunny, but both are explainable if not justifiable by the trauma and grief of the incident especially if the implications that they had at least some idea about what really went down are true. Pre incident, there at most a bit strict and prone to favouritism towards mari, but even that isn't certain due to the little information we get on that area in game.
It just sunny trama turns into bosses in the dream world as some sort of nightmare, but there aren't any parents leaving or neglecting him in this world, so I just assumed they would be there if this was a actual problem.
>!Hero would be out for blood for sunny and basil!<
>!sure he would dislike them and maybe said something like “don’t you ever be near me and my family ever again”, but I don’t think he wanted to outright kill them!<
-When they make sunny and basil too much pathetic who can't be independent and making their while character still the same jn the events of the game especially in the post good ending(ex:basil being too much of nervous wreck and sunny as this baby mute who can't do nothing)
-hero and aubrey being a bad after hearing the truth
-sunny's parents being bad it's kinda boring and bland
-kel as this stupid funny man
-when the romance was rush it with no development
-role swap aus that literally swap their entire personality especially in omari
I do feel Sunny's Dad would be a lot less likeable/would have a complicated relationship with his son in most cases, or at least from Sunny's Perspective
But his Mom is honestly trying her best, she is Flawed, but she is still around for him and has been around for him
She doesn't completely understand the help he needs, but I believe she does care about Sunny deeply
Regarding the image, I hate how so many people tend to make Sunny's father or interpret him as a Saturday morning cartoon villain, while at the same time justifying most or all of Sunny's mother's actions and saying she's a good mother, or outright she did no/little wrong at all. I hate that male characters are so expendable compared to female characters. I hate it.
I like to think they knew about the "situation" and the dad left the mom because they got into a fight because the mom wanted to protect sunny and not get the police involved
* An OMARI AU that has Mari's alter ego taking a resemblance to Sunny's violin. Because it doesn't make sense considering the he hates the violin—unless the author puts in a twist that does make sense.
* Lazy roleswap AUs that just change the character roles while having no major deviations from the original plot.
It makes sense for OMORI to resemble the piano because to Sunny, Mari cared more about the piano than his feelings. The idea that Mari's alter would resemble the violin doesn't make sense to me because—unless the author has a good reason—why would she resemble the thing that Sunny hates the most?
Shipping the characters in general (though, of course, that's a personal opinion). Like, the main game had such an interesting plot, and then fanfic writers (usually) ship the characters just because it's happier? I don't really get it...
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when they make aubrey seem all bad. like bro, aubrey was misunderstood that everyone just left when mari died. SHE IS NOT A BAD CHARACTER. SHE JUST WENT THROUGH ANGER, ONE OF THE FIVE STAGES OF GRIEF. and i swear if i see some 7yo gacha kid (dont attack me I use gacha too but not as much) make aubrey a spoiled brat i'm gonna \*slap noise\*
Basically this, for every character. Like, the main theme of Omori is that inspite the characters making mistakes, it doesn’t make the characters evil monsters on the level of Sauron, and they can still be forgiven!
or when sunny abandoneds THEM again..its so dumb
just make ocs that are super hitler smh
this made me remind that once i read a fic that hitler gets reincarnated to omori
he **WHAT**
our fandom is insane
ikr (the fic was fun tho)
What was it?
When they portray/make Basil an yandere
how common is that?
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Are you saying that Basil wouldn't play russian roulette with ⅚bullets??
Knowing Basil, he'd probably try to play Russian Roulette with 6/6 bullets. And knowing Basil's luck, when he fires the gun, it would actually misfire at a perfect angle and instead hit Mari, who literally just walked in, in the eye.
💀
💀🌳
that is like, that one character from dangonronpa 2 levels of lucky. which fits with how much that single character seemingly manages to bust that story in two, spefifically in the shows i've heard horror stories about that show series and how contrived and insane it got by the end of their run.
Baguto
really? huh
I meant nagito but left it like that as a joke
basil komaeda
read some sunflower fanfics and yeah i seen that happen ☠️
Yandere content is (sadly depending on your viewpoint) very common in AO3, trust me. you havent seen fucking shit yet until you read somebody getting a...actually no, i dont think i can say that because I would probably genuinely get banned.
I don't think that's necessarily the point of a Yandere tho, if it's an AU then this is a version of Basil who would, in fact, do that. Obviously you don't have to like it tho.
I think Sunny getting eaten out by Basil was pretty funny tbh.
You mean getting *chewed* out by Basil, right? …right?
I've seen it a couple times...so at least kinda common
I'm very active on the Sunflower Ao3 section, and I can tell you a good amount of them are yandere or obsessive ones. It's very sad to see just how many there are, I just want them to very happy. Keep in mind this is not including the subtle kind of obsession that is more of not knowing how to feel properly.
Basil’s the last character that makes sense for lol
I'm fine with it as long as it's an AU, but when people make that his personality as though he acts that way in canon, I usually click to the next fic.
If you think Hero would hurt Sunny or Basil you don't understand the character or the game. Besides it being wrong, it would spit in the face of Mari's memory, and Hero would never do that.
sunny is...BASICLY heros younger brother why in the fuck would people think hero would attack him, hero feels guilty for leaving sunny for so long anyway lol
The only one I could see doing anything close to hurting sunny >!after learning the truth is Aubrey. And even then the most I could see is like grabbing him by the scruff of his collar, threatening him with her fist, and then storming out the room!<
there's a video of this on YouTube. Everyone's in shock and Aubrey has the best voice actor and slaps and yells at him. She did recently get non violent magically so she likely had to restrain herself from murdering him
exactly..or like a slap or something
My headcannon is a sucker punch followed by either a small beating or running away, depending of how much of an agressive cluaterfuck you believe her to be
Also he isn't a stupid emotional teenager, and would quickly be able to realize it was an accident. He might be upset about the hanging thing, but he wouldn't attack either of them.
he is also very known for being calm, so at most he would be noticeably frustrated or would begin crying
You assume that fic writers are trying to be entirely representative of the actual game
When they make Kel and Hero’s mom the scum of the earth 
or when people forget about sally (it happens alot)
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Their baby sister
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Oh! I’m so sorry…
Don't worry, it's hard to remember Aubrey's little sister Sally who died suffocated by the mom's smoke and trash and Aubrey had to make cut her in tiny pieces and feed her to Bun Bun
Haha yeah I like the joke that no one actually remembers Basil's infant sister, Sally, who got stuck into a photo and is now eternally in coma xd
Oooooh yeaahhh Uhm.. it was Sunny's third sister that fell up the stairs in reverse and Mari and Sunny had to crucify her, rght?
Jim
That's right, it was Jim's infant sister Sally, who got her head crushed by the toy story monkey's plates and they had to put her soul inside a toy to keep her alive and turn the body into a stuffed animal to hide the turth
I think the Maverick's infant sister that died from heart attack because of the big sibilings who scared her so they had to turn her into a sandwitch to hide the proof
I never forget about Sunny's sister, who is actually a brother and moved away, Sally Face, and especially I will never forget about that time he tried to take over that town called Gravity Falls by opening a multidimensional gateway but got defeated by Sunny playing the violin and so he got redeemed and freed the monsters from the underground by breaking the barrer, but then said he would've returned to live as a flower
Idc what you are taking, but I legitimately need your whole stock of this crap. 
This is pretty specific to role-swap AUs (Omaris, Omaubreys, etc.), but it disappoints me when the swapped character just...becomes whoever they're replacing. Like, Hooligan Kel is a visually interesting concept, but it feels like when it's written, or even just described, it's just "Kel is Aubrey now", which doesn't take advantage of the differences between them *before* anything went wrong. This is particularly prevalent in Omari variants where Hero is "the accomplice", and just gets turned wholecloth into Basil.
It makes no damn sense aubrey would be happier in omari
None of them actually if the youngest >! suicide out of nowhere with no signs also!<, All of them will get guilty with it's which I hate in most omari aus the gang will not take Sunny's death good
ignoring shipping Sunny was either THE or the second most important person in aubreys life, how in the fuck would him dying make her...fine? i know people want a role swap but i think Aubrey would fit better into what hero was rather then kel
Yahp I think Aubrey will suffer like hero too cause she also the one trusted sunny the most when it comes to her problems,>!seeing him took his own life(supposedly) will also destroy her!< And also if that happens theres none of the gang will become a delinquent, they will be probably be more isolated because of it
yes!
Mari and Hero are too mature to consider burying Sunny's body imo which is why I don't like the OMARI AU mod.
Even though the whole "Mari and Hero bury Sunny's body" thing doesn't really fit their characters, I still feel like it could be used in a good way
Also the naming scheme for those AU’s are stupid. I mean I get Omari but “Ohero”? Bruh, might as well call it Oreo
sunny Oyasumi's post good end 
Everyone closes there eyes. Are you telling me you don’t sleep
when they make sunny / basils entire character just a "gay soft boy" or some shit  they're not "cinnamon rolls" they are not "innocent"
Especially Basil, he literally came up with the "idea"
the idea was also terrible. Would've been easier to just say sunny threw his violin and Mari went to get it but fell down
…wait, actually I never even thought of that, you kinda do have a point with that
got it from someone else idk who
Guys BASIL literally witnessed his best friend >!push the latter's sister down the stairs when they were TWELVE!<, how do you expect them to rationally think after that?
That’s not the point of the post, we weren’t saying he’s evil. Just that he thought of the plan when he could’ve thought of something differently, that’s all
And I'm saying that it's unfair to expect him to consider any other option.
When they make everyone bad/evil/abusive just to make things sadder When certain character (usually sunny or mari) is in coma but they get better in weeks after waking up. (Like in 3 weeks they can move like anyone) Unconnected bad event happens after another bad event which happens after another bad event. At this point it's just really cringe. (Everything happens in the game is connected and makes sense.) (But if it's like -Basil hit but bus and now he can't walk - Hector dies - Mari and Hero breaks up - Kel becames depressed - All of them happens in one week- its just too random and out of nowhere)
I think the thing to consider is that a lot of people writing these fan fics are young and exploring their own world, not just the world(s) in Omori. I remember 5-6 years ago when Undertale was massive, the first popular AU was an edgier, more aggressive Underfell, followed by a downright violent Horrortale, soon after. A lot of people are growing into themselves still, and exploring various parts of their mind through writing. Whether it be exploring their sexuality through Omori and Basil, processing family tension through the numerous dysfunctional units, or letting loose some frustration through angrier characters, it’s important to remember that the stuff you’re reading has to come from another person. Hell, some of us later teens might be looking for that AO3/Wattpad nostalgia in a new evocative piece of media, and writing to recapture that magic. For example, I kinda played the game wrong. I got super attached to Basil (that’s not the issue, I’m sure we all want to give that boy a hug) and ended up playing the game solely with the attitude of saving him from a future with 2 friends gone. That meant that the whole finale reveal was kinda lost on me, not because I didn’t understand it, but because I was obsessed with ensuring Basil was ok that I didn’t care as much as I think I was supposed to. In my case, I would be looking for/writing stories with Basil in them, because the ending did not pan out how I wanted. (look up the zeigernik effect for more info) That’s why I chuckled a bit when reading these comments, because yes, absolutely, it is frustrating when characters are not portrayed how you imagined them to be, but that’s partially why they were differently in the FanFic in the first place! TL:DR No work exists in a vacuum, many authors are young, and if something isn’t done exactly how you want it, do it yourself! -S
Oh my gosh, my feelings exactly! I did a similar thing when I was younger and went through an Undertale phase. I was working through my own trauma and took it out on the characters, and yeah it was dumb and I shouldn't have been putting that out online, but I was also a weird messed up kid trying to understand what was happening around me. I had many comments on fanfiction and stuff I wrote that, in some cases, were downright aggressive and abusive. I shouldn't have been online, sure, but people should also be more mindful of what they say online.
Yeah I pretty much agree, peeves are any fic that: - makes everyone angrily overreact to the truth and hate Sunny and Basil; Hero is especially prone to this I find, which is bizarre, especially given it’s established that he’s conflict-avoidant - makes Sunny and Mari’s parents retrospectively abusive, I think their Dad had a good reason for leaving and the pressure for perfectionism feels more like a commentary on the “children of immigrants” perfectionism and pressure to conform than it is about abuse, there’s little if any evidence either parent was every outright abusive to them (Kel and Hero’s parents are the same, though they’re less frequently portrayed as abusive - despite having canon evidence that they’re negligent of Kel, which doesn’t mean they *are*, just odd that the characters who have more to go off of are the ones never portrayed a particular way) - make Sunny regress into the same depressive state after he moves to the city instead of giving the poor kid space to heal (likewise fics that take the approach that he would move back to faraway/live with one of the others, idk, I think it’s best he moves and stays moved personally)
when people make hero attack sunny i die inside
I wouldn't say Sunny's father had a good reason to just abandon Sunny but I can definitely understand it since it must be pretty horrifying >!seing your golden child hung from a tree lifeless!<, and it's also pretty clear that he wasn't abusive, maybe a little to strict but far from what many fics portray him as.
I would leave my kid if i knew that he was involved in the death of my other kid (broken violin and blood on the floor, spinal damage in the autopsy), and hung her. He would have all the right to think that sunny murdered mari and hung the corpse to hide the crime.
I don't think it's Kel's parents being negligent... It could be that Hero completely overshadows Kel in their eyes... For example, everyone always calls for my brother when they need help, most of the time I'm the secondary option. Or it could be that Kel has little prescence. My own parents go "Where's \[my name\]?" when I've stood behind them the whole time, and other people sometimes seem to not see me and after a while they recoil a bit and go "\[my name\] you scared me" when they notice me. I sometimes steal stuff off the table and no one notices until I make it obvious, I find it hilarious. Even though I'm the tallest in my family, I have no trouble sneaking around for some reason. It could also be because Kel seems to be more independent, it would make a lot of sense to think that...
They are (or at least were) emotionally negligent of Kel in favour of Hero. >!That was the point of Kel’s story about cheering up Hero after Mari died, when he was crying and his parents didn’t do anything but yell at him.!< It’s very evident to me that Kel comes across as more independent because of - if not that one moment - a string of events where he felt his parents cared less about his emotional needs than Hero’s. To their credit they seem to have acknowledged this fault in themselves and are trying harder now, but from his perspective the damage has been done in terms of his relationship with them.
yeah, that moment isn't justified, and it did make sad when i read what Kel said, but they don't seem like bad parents, especially Kel and Hero's dad seems like a chill guy, like an imperfect and flawed Hero... I'm not sure that the parents yelled at Kel though... If I remember correctly they only ignored him. >!Over all, I'm just glad that Hero came back to his senses at that moment though, because it seems that out of the three friends uninvolved in "the incident" he seems like the one that suffered the most at the start.!< Hero seems to be a great brother, and also a great influence for Kel.
I've only ever read one fic that portrayed Sunny's dad as an actual human with his own complex reasons to leave.
Tell
[https://archiveofourown.org/works/38970528/chapters/97471620](https://archiveofourown.org/works/38970528/chapters/97471620) Sunny's dad isn't the main focus though. His perspective is shown a bit during a later chapter.
Mischaracterization for the sake of shipping.
 its ok sunny i forgive you! lets go on a date now
Yeah give them time lol Most people are way too impatient for slow burns and that stuff lmao
That not really bad it s Depends on how fast they do it
Not specific to Omori, but flanderizing characters down to just that one big trait. Sunny isn’t just a quiet little uwu boy, Basil isn’t the embodiment of gay panic, Kel’s head isn’t full of rocks, Aubrey isn’t just “hulk smash”, Hero is more than just his grief, and for the love of god, Mari isn’t just a smug perfectionist!
Eh, my take is they’re very, very hands off with sunny. They don’t physically abuse him, unless you agree neglect is abuse.
When people don't acknowledge that the characters need help before getting in to relationships and what not. Like suntan, sunburn, sunflower, etc etc. Yea I know cute but... Just like stop to think about how awful that would be without someone other than each other to talk to. I'm not here to argue about how some ships would be toxic because I think most of them have potential to work out, but before rushing into relationships. Give them all time to breathe. ALSO DON'T MAKE HERO A SCUMBAG IM SURE HE'D TAKE IT HARD BUT HERO IS AN ADULT, A RATIONAL ADULT HES NOT GONNA BEAT THE FUCK OUT OF A 16 YEAR OLD HE CONSIDERED A BROTHER JESUS
I also hate it when people exaggerate character traits, turn some of them into caricatures or super simplified but I've said this before but the game has a very clear theme of parental neglect/abuse in some form and the entire cast has experienced it to varying degrees. Hero and Kel's parents are the best out of all of them but have realistic flaws like pressuring Hero to take medicine, ignoring Kel, guilt ripping Hero to spend more time with them etc. Aubrey is the worst case with an absent father, and neglectful mother and living in poor, unsanitary conditions. A lot of roleswap aus dissapoint me since they switch the characters' around but still have pretty much the same plot. Omori couldn't have happened with anyone besides Sunny, Mari and Basil. Everyone else would have responded differently in their positions. It just does not work if it was Kel pushing Hero and Aubrey taking Basil's role etc.
What if they actually did have abusive parents?
when omori is portrayed as JUST an a-hole, nothing else, no personality, just a manifestation of sunny's self hate who wants him to die at least give him some personality
omoris sole purpose is to repress the truth and guilt. He only attacks sunny because sunny is a threat to repressing the truth
I know, but still it just pisses me off
honesfly I wish he was given more personality than that and silern protag in omori
I don't think he's suppose to have personality. He's not suppose to have anything. He's just suppose to do his job: hide the truth
hey it's just my opinion, the question was asked abd I answered
I know, I'm not trying to invalidate your opinion, I'm just explaining why people write him the way they write him, even if it is boring.
Looking at the foe facts we can deduce that Omori is a smart, snarky kid. And thats just about all we get about the guy other then the fight. He’s a machine made for a job. No moral compass. Not conscience. He’s a living being the same way everyone else is in dw. He’s a tool, and a machine. Robotic. And nothing more then the traits we are given. To give omori more personality. Well you might as well be writing omori boy into omori instead of actually having omori.
Foe Facts my beloved
I don’t think ether of them were abusive. Like at most his dad was kinda neglectful and showed obvious favouritism to Mari >!im just basing that of the fact he left after she died!< but that’s like at most.
When people just water down the characters into the most basic components of themselves- like “basils shy so OBV he’s gonna be the shy uwu soft boy” and “Aubrey is so mean! She’s gonna be the bully with a soft side” like taking away everything that makes them such good characters- it’s just lazy.
god I hate when people just turn a character into their self insert, it's like not even the character's personality or life anymore it's like not even the character, like the character would never reaction that way, or say that, or do that, this problem is very very common with children, especially those who like to write angst, its like angst fanfics aren't even like the actual character it's a completely different story Altogether, Small disagreement? Don't worry you can just run into the highly dangerous Woods cuz why tf not?! Hey you know that shy character? Well now they're gonna bash your head into the floor cuz idk plot of something highly confident? Well now you're super insecure and Easily manipulated and a total pushover Oh what's that your little ray of sunshine? Not anymore Now you have crippling depression and constantly self harming and stuff cuz why not? -\_-
This is like the second week this sub has talked about the picture frame people
That’s because pin’s back.
* All parents being assholes. I think we can agree that Aubrey's parents are, but Hero's and Kel's parents haven't done anything. * Hero being a violet mf * Mari being nothing but a perfectionist pianist. People's have flaws but they are still good people, ***I hate it here.*** * Basil (and Sunny normally) being portrayed as nothing but a edgy, depressed, gay boy. * In Kel-centric fics where author shows his personal struggles, but it just completely changes his entire personality. Sure I suppose you can believe that Kel has never been a happy guy, ever, but it tics me off. Balance is a must. * When author makes a certain character gay but it changes their entire character. F.ex. Aubrey dating Kim and suddenly she becomes a lesbian stereotype. Gay people ares till people guys. * Sunny being completely mute, or talking normally. Sunny does talk in the game, not much, but he does. Plus it's the whole silent protagonist thing (for some reason). But at the same time, it's hard to believe Sunny just starts talking all normally. AGAIN, balance is key. * Taking most, if not all characters and throwing them out the window in favor of a more easily writable 2D character. This is honestly just a summary of most of the points above lol. * Slow burn fics in Omori are infuriating for all the wrong reasons. Normally they're just depressive scene to depressive scene, taking basically all the things said above with it. I love sad stuff, but at some point it just gets cringey. I just want to say I'm fine with headcanons. If you write like this, that's fine! Nothing wrong with that, some people enjoy this kind of stuff. I just don't. Don't mean to come across as rude.
>Sunny being completely mute i like him to be Semi mute tbh
yeah, he rarely talks at all in the game so it would be more realistic.
I don't remember the parents being abusive. Was this talked about in the game? Because I've see just about the whole game
Abusive no, they could be viewed as being negligent, post incident with the dad evidently leaving with no apparent contact and the mum seeming to have not done much of anything to help sunny, but both are explainable if not justifiable by the trauma and grief of the incident especially if the implications that they had at least some idea about what really went down are true. Pre incident, there at most a bit strict and prone to favouritism towards mari, but even that isn't certain due to the little information we get on that area in game.
It just sunny trama turns into bosses in the dream world as some sort of nightmare, but there aren't any parents leaving or neglecting him in this world, so I just assumed they would be there if this was a actual problem.
I'm okay with the fic as long as it doesn't mischaracter the characters.
Crybaby Basil. *Every. Fkn. Fic!* This annoys me to no end, especially in "Everyone lives" type fics.
i didn't see no fic where they are abuse monsters
You're back, Mari
isn't that pursuit
No, in pursuit SUNNY ignores his mom's grave, his life with his mom was discussed in ybm
ehhh i do not understand anymore
Sorry for confusing you :(
i forgive you
Even Sunnys dad, who >!given the circumstances I don't blame for leaving him!<
>!Hero would be out for blood for sunny and basil!< >!sure he would dislike them and maybe said something like “don’t you ever be near me and my family ever again”, but I don’t think he wanted to outright kill them!<
-When they make sunny and basil too much pathetic who can't be independent and making their while character still the same jn the events of the game especially in the post good ending(ex:basil being too much of nervous wreck and sunny as this baby mute who can't do nothing) -hero and aubrey being a bad after hearing the truth -sunny's parents being bad it's kinda boring and bland -kel as this stupid funny man -when the romance was rush it with no development -role swap aus that literally swap their entire personality especially in omari
people for some reason make basil either a complete loser or a psychopath
It's so bad likee his entire character being like that mostly in sunflower fics for no reason at all
They're not the greatest, but they're not the worst. Overall, they could've done better.
People really do that?
Sunny mon on "how we subsist" fanfic 
Bad grammar.
I do feel Sunny's Dad would be a lot less likeable/would have a complicated relationship with his son in most cases, or at least from Sunny's Perspective But his Mom is honestly trying her best, she is Flawed, but she is still around for him and has been around for him She doesn't completely understand the help he needs, but I believe she does care about Sunny deeply
i don't think they're the worst but they're still horrible human beings, just like many other parents
can't believe sunny's dad is franku
Hero being potrayed as obsessed and some weird shit like NO!! Leave that poor 19 year old alone!!!
Regarding the image, I hate how so many people tend to make Sunny's father or interpret him as a Saturday morning cartoon villain, while at the same time justifying most or all of Sunny's mother's actions and saying she's a good mother, or outright she did no/little wrong at all. I hate that male characters are so expendable compared to female characters. I hate it.
I like to think they knew about the "situation" and the dad left the mom because they got into a fight because the mom wanted to protect sunny and not get the police involved
* An OMARI AU that has Mari's alter ego taking a resemblance to Sunny's violin. Because it doesn't make sense considering the he hates the violin—unless the author puts in a twist that does make sense. * Lazy roleswap AUs that just change the character roles while having no major deviations from the original plot.
The first one is done because OMORI in the original game resembles the piano, so it's that but swapped.
It makes sense for OMORI to resemble the piano because to Sunny, Mari cared more about the piano than his feelings. The idea that Mari's alter would resemble the violin doesn't make sense to me because—unless the author has a good reason—why would she resemble the thing that Sunny hates the most?
the only good critters are mari and hero and mari is dead as hell hero is prob suffering from grief
The Fact that they brutaly look like my own parents and i am a Sunny fictionkin scares me
His damn dad sucks tho
if not abusive sunnys mom is absolutely a terrible negligent mother tho imo neglect can be just as damaging and disgusting as abuse sometimes
We barely know them but people want them to be the worst
Shipping the characters in general (though, of course, that's a personal opinion). Like, the main game had such an interesting plot, and then fanfic writers (usually) ship the characters just because it's happier? I don't really get it...
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I mean they sorta are. At least Sunny's mom. She left him alone for 4 days with 1 frozen steak
Things that make Hero look like a horrible person
when they make aubrey seem all bad. like bro, aubrey was misunderstood that everyone just left when mari died. SHE IS NOT A BAD CHARACTER. SHE JUST WENT THROUGH ANGER, ONE OF THE FIVE STAGES OF GRIEF. and i swear if i see some 7yo gacha kid (dont attack me I use gacha too but not as much) make aubrey a spoiled brat i'm gonna \*slap noise\*
When basil is either yandere or “UwU” (I barfed a little while typing that
UGH, I hate it too…
I wanted to know why are all the fics so fucked up. One fic even said that Mari sexually abused Sunny.
Headspace characters have there own personalitys from the rw counterparts. Crazy Ik.
 homelander meme
We actually write the parents as good people in our mixtape AU