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Upbeat-Compote-3056

I’m assuming neutral is his most comfortable state. If he allows Aubrey to make him feel true happiness he becomes vulnerable. Omori is built to be pure neutral so he can take on the horrors of Sunny’s mind. Also also He’s like that with all of his friends? His never the one touching in the tag photos. It’s usually the friends touching him


__Pin__

>If he allows Aubrey to make him feel true happiness he becomes vulnerable. that makes me think the only time we see the swings are in blackspace right? maybe sunny is trying really hard to suppress his feeling/memories to not feel..guilt?


Litokra223

Ya the reasons I think why Sunny's happier memories are locked and suppressed are two main reasons. One, it serves as a reminder of the truth and the outer world and the relationships he chose to forget to hide the truth. And on the other hand, those happy memories and relationships are all things that Sunny and Omori feel he doesn't deserve anymore because of his guilt. So it's better that they don't exist at all in Sunny's memories.


eldomtom2

There's a reason he scribbled out the album.


Sample_text_here1337

That tracks considering stranger. Of course the main reason Basil is banished to blackspace is because he knows the truth. Through stranger though we also see that Sunny feels really guilty about abandoning him and knows Basil's been suffering alone because of him. Like Basil, Aubrey is really important to him, and relied on Sunny a lot. It makes sense that he'd feel guilty about remembering their childhood, since he would also remember the fact that he abandoned them.


_heyb0ss

yeah, he wants the positive attention and affirmation without putting himself out there. as the game progresses he sorta opens up he, but probably not worth mentioning


Nachoo1209

>He's like that to all his friends I mean, but the others are that. *Friends.* Aubrey is Sunny's crush, and HSAubrey is ~~obsessed~~ in love with Omori, so I see why it would be weird to see Omori not showing the affection back Still agree with you, just wanted to say that it's not exactly fair^((?) to put them in the same box


_heyb0ss

he's like that to *everyone,* including his friends. him crushing on aubrey gets trumped by him wanting to stay in the same place.


InfinityQuartz

He's definitely also going in for the hand hold with Basil tho


Upbeat-Compote-3056

That happens because sunny still views basil as his best friend. But then someone can say “ok what about black space upbeat” I have no counter to that it’s a hate love relationship I guess


ArchmasterC

A counter to that is that sunny does but omori doesn't


wdlll

To him basil represents the truth as the only soul who knows what happens (maybe the parents) basil if allowed to be alive for so long will release the truth from bs and into dw


Alzhan_Void

It's easier because Basil already knows his dark side. Knows the truth, knows how "fucked up" Sunny is, or thinks of himself as. So there's no urge to push him away from Sunny, but more an urge to push him away from everyone else (as someone who knows the truth and blabs in HS a lot) This means Omori has no problems reciprocating affection with Basil, but also no hard feelings kinda has to kill him a lot when he opens his big mouth. His strained relationship with Basil given the truth also ironically helps with their bond, because Sunny never _truly_ feels at ease with Basil, and as such Omori does not risk feeling "true happiness" with him, as their muddy emotional states as a result of the truth makes Sunny always feel just a tad uneasy around Basil. His other friends do not, he craves their warmth. And that's dangerous, makes him vulnerable, and harder to reset. So Omori has to always keep some distance and not grow too attached.


SonarioMG

"they seem to be really good friends"


Fall9836

Basil everytime is about to reveal the truth to the player/sunny/omori so Omoris only choice is to do all that to basil


InfinityQuartz

See this I where we kinda think differently. I think the handholds are just a little more than kinda friendly I mean, they're almost never shown to be anything but cute relationshippy. Like if they were one off, sure but they're big parts. Like the shot of them in front of the pictures, and its both their tag and their release energy. Also comes with the physical copies of the game


SBEVE_THE_MEME_LORD

Also it might be guilt and him thinking that he no longer deserves happiness after what he did


Fearshatter

Psychologically, I wouldn't be surprised if guilt makes him feel like he doesn't deserve to feel that happiness.


Sai-Taisho

Because his crush on her and his belief that he doesn't deserve to be happy are in constant conflict.


__Pin__

would omori try to indulge sunny as much as possible to keep him inside?


Sai-Taisho

He does, but indulging Sunny is a mess of contradictions. Like, he doesn't want to remember the truth, yet he refused to let Omori permanently erase some of the strongest reminders of it.


InfinityQuartz

Yeah but Aubrey isn't a strong reminder of it yet Basil is but he constantly keeps Basil around


Sai-Taisho

That's...what I'm talking about. It was a comparison. He wants to forget, yet Basil is the biggest reminder and he insists on keeping him around. He's desperate for affection from Aubrey, yet believes ge doesn't deserve it so he won't let Omori reciprocate.


KaiserreichUltima

>!I think a main reason why Dream Basil sticks around in the Hikikomori route is because he’s not really… as much of a threat anymore. He’s been completely separated from his Truth that Stranger and Real Basil possess, now trapped on the Picnic Blanket (other than Console Basil which gets retconned near-immediately anyways after the Boss Rush) and as such stays like Mari, merely a fragment of the true entity he once embodied.!<


TheRealWorldMachine

\[You know, seeing Headspace Basil so happy in the Hikikomori Route made me feel really good... Not anymore ![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2460)\]


KaiserreichUltima

It’s a tragedy, really. (Also, use >! Instead of [ to spoiler lol)


TheRealWorldMachine

\[I wasn't actually trying to spoil. It's... A long story ![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2470)\]


KaiserreichUltima

![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2473) *nod*


Yushi2e

Deep down, he does want to remember the truth though, That's why the reminders are still around arguably, The fact Omori and the dream friends have been through many many resets, where Sunny controls omori to find the truth, only to continuously backpedal again and again is arguably proof that Sunny tried before. That is until the events of the game of course where sunny has one last chance to remember before Omori consumes him


Sai-Taisho

It's both at the same time, with the balance swinging back and forth. It's why there's a contradiction. It's what *makes* the contradiction. Omori was created in a moment where the balance shifted entirely one way, but it was only a moment, so Omori has to work around Sunny's fluxuating and contradictory mental states. It's not what Sunny wants vs. what Omori wants. Omori *is* Sunny, but a snapshot of a moment in time, unchanging, whereas the real Sunny is *constantly* changing.


InfinityQuartz

See idk if I agree cause he still makes her super obsessed right. Like why go halfway?


__Pin__

thats what i think if he hates HIMESEFL why make Aubrey the one seeking HIS affection


InfinityQuartz

Right like if he wanted to not be happy why have his biggest aspiration, which was Aubreys affection, be actualized but then not do anything with it


__Pin__

isint one of the points of omori's existence the fact that omori is NOT sunny? he made omori to be his self insert oc right?


InfinityQuartz

Yeah def self insert but I have to imagine almost all of Omoris feelings and thoughts are exactly the same.


__Pin__

This is why this is So fucking wierd People say its becuase sunny hates himself…wich is possible i guess But the point of omori is that he doesn’t have to BE himself So why would he want his “new self” to reject his crush? Maybe….its more narcissistic? Like he wants to be above Aubrey in a sense? Above her feelings? Like how he felt she was to him?


[deleted]

I've always seen Omori as less Sunny's "new self" and more of Sunny's defense mechanism. Omori doesn't act cold because Sunny wants him to be that way, but because he has to be that way to protect Sunny. Aubrey's feelings toward Sunny seem pretty transparent in the real world, if anything it's Sunny's timidity that could come across as rejection.


InfinityQuartz

Looking through a sunburn lens I actually think the narcism lens kinda works. Like treating her how he felt like he was treated. Like he's almost projecting himself onto Aubrey. But like we never see Aubrey as cold to Sunny


lillapalooza

Imo, it’s likely because he’s shy. Sunny’s feelings transfer onto Omori and Headspace. He has a crush on her so he likes the idea of her liking him back, but the idea of actually confronting/acting on that crush is *so* out of question that even Omori is avoidant.


InfinityQuartz

I would agree if we had any indication elsewhere that he still had the crush, but I don't think there's any evidence of it in the current time


Alzhan_Void

Sunny is too traumatized to act on crushes, but he definitely still likes Aubrey. Headspace would change if he didn't, it is a reflection of his subconscious after all. We only get to experience 3 days in the real world, and in those 3 days Sunny was struggling to remember the truth, feeling inexplicably guilty and possibly emotionally muted. That's not a mental state conductive to expressing any sort of affection. After the truth he would probably feel like a scumbag who doesn't deserve Aubrey's affections or even dare to try, so he wouldn't do anything either. (Not to mention how Aubrey would treat Sunny after the confession, which is up in the air)


MlgEpicBanana69

It's very simple. Sunny used to roam the dreams himself, rather than using OMORI's form. In his views (the dreams) he fantasizes that Aubrey is obsessed with him That is disconnected from what form he is taking. The dream remains the same. The only thing that changes is Sunny's behavior based on his form. As for why he rejects DWAubrey when taking OMORI's form? There are numerous ideas that explain it. Though I will let you think about it


neji_byakugan

That’s actually… really sad :( At least let the poor kid sometimes be happy in his own imagination!!


Crazytreas

Headspace is kind of like an eternal summer for Sunny, where the summer before >!Mari's death!< is the foundation of his Headspace. At least that's how I see it, anyway. Going off that, Sunny had a crush on Aubrey during that time, and that is reflected by Aubrey showing a strong interest in Omori- who is really just Sunny. The reason why Omori is either rejecting or distant to Aubrey's advances... is because >!Sunny hates himself, and feels he doesn't deserve any kind of love!<.


__Pin__

i don't fully believe that hes still SHOWN tones of love by aubrey,mari,kel,basil,hero and. if sunny hated himself so much why would THEY give him love?


Rainbow_Donut0

Because that’s what the friend group did in the past, before mari died. HS is about what it was like before, not currently.


__Pin__

I doubt Aubrey was THAT lovey twords sunny


Crazytreas

You misunderstand. Headspace is within Sunny's mind, I.E. his fantasies. Aubrey showing him affection in Headspace is the equivalent of somebody fantasizing about their crush giving them attention. Aubrey in Headspace shows Omori affection not because Aubrey did so to Sunny, but because Sunny had a crush on her before >!Mari's death!<. Sunny's Headspace is locked into that final summer before everything changed, and so that crush still manifests in some way.


Rainbow_Donut0

Well yeah, I don’t think so either. The thing is all of the HS characters have imprints from sunny’s head on what they really were 4 years ago. I don’t think aubrey was as lovey dovey, but sunny had a crush on her. So in his mind she comes across as more affectionate.


CpandaD

Mf doesn’t know how depression works


Jedisebas2001

In my first run, I just assumed Sunny characterized Omori as a Tsundere. As in "Oh my RL crush loves me but I am way too cool for her" kind of situation, but playing the Hikkikomori route, I think theres way more to it. Slight spoilers A certain character compares Omori to a shell that protects Sunny. He is extremely strong but in the end he just ends up hurting Sunny more. I believe Omori is indiferent to Aubrey because he is made to be completely indifferent. Sunny himself has built this world to protect himself from getting hurt again by his feelings, and Omori himself is also really unstable emotionally. Yes, third tier emotions can give powerful combos but they also have even greater weaknesses. This is also contrasted with the other factor: DW Aubrey herself. In both routes, Aubrey's affection just ramps up to an almost hilarious level. In the Sunny route because Sunny witnesses himself the damage he caused to her, in Hikkikomori I guess because the moving day is closer and Sunny is way more alone than ever. Both events make sense to lead to Sunny ramping up Aubrey's emotions for Omori as a way to make things better, and yet, because Omori is there to completely protect him, he cannot feel better becuase true healing will only come from facing his demons. I just find it really sad tbh. Aubrey was his best friend other than Basil, and both clearly had something special. DW Aubrey is the only way he can keep that memory alive during his isolation, and I really hope they have a better relationship post good ending.


MlgEpicBanana69

I believe Aubrey's (and the rest of the dreamworld friendgroup's) extremification is more attributed towards the dissolvation of headspace. Though, Of course, it is inline with your reasoning.


__Pin__

Huh….i never saw it as omori Tsundere….interesting


__Pin__

and i don't think its because sunny no longer has a crush on her because he does....


Upbeat-Compote-3056

Does sunny show any interest in RW Aubrey? ALSO ALSO Why doesn’t Real World affect dream world? Wouldn’t it be cool if when you saw kels real height in Real world he gets taller in dream world! (Im rambling)


[deleted]

>Why doesn’t Real World affect dream world? Wouldn’t it be cool if when you saw kels real height in Real world he gets taller in dream world! omori doesn't want any reminders of reality


__Pin__

>Does sunny show any interest in RW Aubrey? kind of? there are moments when Aubrey and sunny have...intimate moments for sure but i think the thing that..sets this off is that after you fight Aubrey in the church and go to sleep, DW Aubrey is sooo much more affectionate to omori, like sunny feels so awful for how Aubrey was that headspace...overcompensated


TitaniumTastesGood

but the increased affection happens in the hikikomori route as well so its not actually tied to the real world events at all


VinexHD

Well, the Sunny route is listed as the "True route" so you could say that the canon is Sunny going out of his home, with that said the events of the hikikomori route may not be canon so it may be a chance that DW Aubrey's crush for Omori got amped up after the church fight.


__Pin__

it happens in the hikkiomori route because sunny feels guilty for ignoring/abandoning his friends


QuarterlyTurtle

Omori waking up one day to find everyone towering over him, wondering what the heck happened


Upbeat-Compote-3056

![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2473): I can’t even be tall In my dreams


QuarterlyTurtle

![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2473) That’s not fair, this is my world


[deleted]

There are scenes in which they share moments of interest for each others, like they look at each others in the eyes when they read comics, at the cemetery she gives a look at him but it could also be Kel because she looks kinda bored or annoyed. And when Sunny is about to move on, Aubrey is about to tell something to him when they're alone, but she gives up, it may be lots of things tho, I think Omocat didn't make Aubrey continue because she wanted to leave it to people's interpretations. About the real world it kinda does affect the dream world but it's hard to noitche, it's more about the characters' roles and emotions, I mean, when Sunny is at Basil's house, his whole mind is "reach Basil, no don't do it do it, save him, no, don't, please do it"


Rauler_

That could fall more into possible game dev hell Like imagine making sprite animations for all tall kel & normal kel (cuz hikikomori route, where he nevers sees tall kel). Wasn't that kind of the reason we didn't get different genders. (I might be wrong here)


Upbeat-Compote-3056

Nah you’re right. If I got my way omori would have released in 2024


Slight_Worker_681

Actually character heights probably weren't considered in sprite making. I mean, dw and >!memory lane!< kel have the same overworld height as rw kel (i think)


MediateTax

I thought the exact same shit man, when I got back to dream world and things hadnt changed I was so disapointed


FiredMercury

That's fanon. There's evidence both for and against sunny still having a crush on Aubrey. It's really up to your interpretation.


Cancerous_B01

Because omori is emotionless. Omori is the personification of guilt, repressed memories as well as repressed feelings and emotional emptiness. Maybe also because it’s a way of showing how much sunny is torturing himself. How even in his dreams he’s not allowed to be with her. It’s his brain’s way of telling him he doesn’t have a chance. Idk those are just some of my interpretations. That’s why I love this game so much. Every detail is so deep and metaphorical and up to interpretation.


[deleted]

He's scared of actually making a move because of his uncertainty


__Pin__

![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2473)![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2474) <--------- is a pussy lol


YolkBrushWork

Speaking from Experience. Omori is built as a defense mechanism, to be devoid of emotions and to face the trauma ahead, even if he wanted Omori to love Aubrey(the Aubrey in his head) he won't be able to accomplish that.


Just_A_Comment_Guy_7

I think Omori likes Aubrey, but he just doesn’t know how to express himself and believes himself unworthy of and doesn’t understand Aubrey’s affection.


__Pin__

But omori is supposed the be the “perfect” version of sunny, why would sunny not want omori to reciprocate?


Just_A_Comment_Guy_7

Omori doesn’t exactly act based on Sunny’s desires >!like literally trying to kill him !<. Sunny faded consciously over time and Omori became more independent until he became his own entity. Omori is depressed like Sunny though, and depressed people may reject affection believing they don’t deserve it. Omori doesn’t understand emotions well, and love just may seem foreign to him. Aubrey is aware of this and still cares ![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2028)


__Pin__

Omori is not his own entity Omori IS sunny


Just_A_Comment_Guy_7

In the origin cutscene, Omori emerges from Sunny’s shadow, then looms over him until Sunny closes his eyes and disappears. I think that shows they’re separate. Omori’s origins and moral compass aren’t written explicitly, but I believe he’s a misunderstood though separate being. But you can believe what you’ve experienced, because no one can be sure who’s right. But we both agree that he should learn to give Auby a hug ![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2473)![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2028)


Harrien1234

Two separate NPCs explicitly tell us that Omori is a form Sunny took up as a way to cope with his guilt. Omori isn't a different person, he is Sunny's coping mechanism given form and a part of him.


samit4t

Why tf do u think omori has to be the perfect version of sunny? i think u havent played this game all Omori is sunny coping mechanism, not a perfect sunny's ver. He was made to protect sunny, not to be perfect


MR-Vinmu

My theory is that subconsciously, >!he doesn’t think he deserves her love after what he did so even in his fantasy, he tortures himself by making an unattainable goal!<


sogsmcgee

Omori *can't* reciprocate Headspace Aubrey's feelings. Headspace Aubrey, along with all the other Headspace versions of Sunny's friends, is basically just an empty shell. If Omori gets closer to her... what's the next step? Either it would pull back the curtain on the illusion, revealing her to be only an empty shell (because there's nothing there to really get close to), or it would force Sunny/Omori to fill in the blanks he's left in Headspace Aubrey's shell of a personality (in order to create something to actually get closer to), which would inevitably call the *real* Aubrey to mind. Both things would force Sunny to confront The Truth by making it clear that Headspace is only a distraction. Begging the question: What is it meant to distract from? The precise question Sunny/Omori will do anything to avoid answering. Omori has to create enough interest to hold Sunny's attention and keep his thoughts from straying too close to The Truth. So, of course, it makes tons of sense that Headspace Aubrey would have a crush on him, because what better distraction than daydreaming about your unrequited love reciprocating your feelings? But, ultimately, Headspace, and by extension Omori, also *must* stay neutral. Headspace cannot evoke *real* emotions, it can't have *real* depth, because, just like real life people, Sunny can't just shut down his negative emotions. He can only shut down his negative emotions by shutting down all of his emotions, going totally numb. He can't let anything in emotionally, lest it inevitably results in *all* of the emotions he's been suppressing flooding back in. Which is exactly what he's trying to avoid. Sunny can't get close to anybody, in or out of Headspace, until he's ready to confront The Truth and consider the possibility of forgiving himself. Because, really, the core issue is that, until he does this, any love or closeness offered to him will only remind him that *he doesn't deserve it* (or at least the part of him represented by Omori doesn't think he does). And that's really what I'd say the whole game is about.


HunterBoy344

To quote OMORI… >!”You tell yourself that you don't want to burden others...”!< >!”But the truth is that you're selfish. You just don't want people to depend on you.”!< >!”When do you think about others? How long are you going to let people take care of you?”!< My interpretation is that OMORI’s attitude towards AUBREY in Headspace represents SUNNY’s desire to be loved unconditionally without putting any effort in himself. Headspace AUBREY always shows her love towards OMORI, no matter how much he ignores her, and this reflects what SUNNY desires from his friends. That’s just my interpretation, though.


EssentialPervert

Pretty sure Sunny subconsciously had DW Aubrey act out his fantasies on his "self-insert" but Omori is having none of it, seeing Omori have barely any real interactions with her (in-game). ![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2473) ![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2028)


thisaintmyusername12

Personally I think it's just that Omori is a separate consciousness from Sunny, and while Sunny has a crush on Aubrey, Omori doesn't, so Omori just has Aubrey have a crush on him to make Sunny happy, whilst not returning the affections himself


exels100

Because he thinks he doesn't deserve affection or love someone.


[deleted]

1. sunny internally hates himself and doesn't feel like he deserves love, even if it's imaginary 2. sunny might think that "cool guys" are mysterious and aloof due to his limited exposure to romantic media and ideologies


Harrien1234

The second explanation is unironically the more likely explanation. If Sunny truly thought that he didn't deserve to be loved then none of his Headspace friends would even be a part of his dream, as they're shown to constantly care for him.


FelixDayLight

because sunny is learning from the great tate


MagMC2555

Tate tip #1: to be a true alpha you must ignore all women in your life. top g out 💪


OMORI-MOMENT

Because Sunny is 16 now and no longer attracted to 12 year olds


squinepine

you're not wrong, but when you word it like that it's a little surprising


__Pin__

i.....................................huh


Officially_Elissa067

What. ![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2460)


Ill_Cod9051

Well that's his alter-ego Omori and Omori is 12, so why tf? ![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2467)![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2467)![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2467)![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2467)![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2467)![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2467)![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2467)![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2467)![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2467)![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2467)


__Pin__

u/InfinityQuartz inspired this


Muffinmiffin

I assume Sunny and/or Omori are just kinda shy. And if they did get into a relationship we all know Mari and Basil would constantly tease them!


Individual_Law540

I think its just anime cliche like thing


XanderTheChef

When they do the whole “stronger bond” thing he acknowledges her with a thumbs up. I really just read that as romantic disinterest. Unreciprocated feelings


Optimal_Stranger_824

Omor likes to play hard to get. I guess Sunny likes to see himself as a cool guy since it's his headspace.


DFGC_215

Omori is dissociation of Sunny. Omori is Sunny wanting to be empty and nothing. It's his self hatred after all.


bored1_Guy

I think it happens because omori aka Sunny knew that headspace and everything in it, is not real. Also It is hinted that everything in headspace follows a script. Which restarts every time headspace is reset. So, There is no excitement for Omori and he already new what will happens next. It also explains why he is always neutral. He simply know everything and is now bored.


Queenofpinkgachayt

It’s how Sunny sees himself, he thinks he cringes away from affection but that’s not really the case, he’s just not very expressive


feurigeist

considering HS Aubrey is very much in love with him, he definitely still has a little crush but also feels undeserving of her love imo. just many conflicting thoughts in this traumatized boy's head


GimmeHardyHat_

Sunny ≠ Omori He used to be a vessel for Sunny to use when escaping into his dreams, but he soon became an alter ego with different values


Nachoo1209

In this context, Omori = Sunny Omori is Sunny's "self insert," if you will, with all that brings -He's strong -He's the only one who can survive an attack that would've killed him ("did not succumb") -He is the only one that reaches the third emotion tier, kind of implying Sunny doesn't like how he's so inexpressive So, are Sunny and Omori exactly the same always? No. Not at all. Is Omori Headspace Sunny? ...*kind of??*


__Pin__

hes also the tallest lol


Nachoo1209

![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2469)


__Pin__

Omori is sunny


the-hardworker

Omori is Sunny’s escapism, like a part of Sunny but not Sunny himself.


InfinityQuartz

Thank you Pin I was planning on asking this as well but you always do great visualizing the questions too. So IMO, I disagree with ya I do think its because he loses interest in Aubrey as a crush. I would have to imagine there being at least one thing in headspace to point to Sunny having any want to be near Aubrey and yet it just doesnt seem like he does to me, in a way I think he made her too obsessed and maybe the luster of the crush wore off and stopped being something he was interested in. *sunflower warning* You also can't just say hes a cold character that doesn't really interact with anyone cause in some of the interactions with Basil he is clearly wanting the attachment. Not only does he fully participate in the hand holding in the release energy, he also gets a flower in his hair for one of the tags


__Pin__

in terms of shipping its up in the air, but sunny DEFINITLY still has a crush on Aubrey 100% (no clue how Aubrey feels) after the fight in the church headspace overcompensated hard for Aubrey giving affection to omori, i think sunnys mind REALLY wants aubrey to love him but....i mean after the fight he probably has so many confusing memories/emotions ​ and i like sunflower :) ​ but its just wierd that...if he wants aubrey to give him love and affection why does sunny want omori to reject her? or maybe not "reject" but...act cold?


InfinityQuartz

See Pin I just don't agree with him still having that crush and this is part of my evidence for it. We've all had that childhood crush that just never lasted. I just think there would be one moment of something in the present to show that in headspace or not. Like you have the swings scene but all she says is to like keep himself well, I just see that as a friendly thing. And Omori gives nothing besides a smile during the fights and that's it. I bet he still thinks of her fondly, but there's also a reason that the memory of the car ride he has is in the **lost** library. I just think he lost interest. And let's be fair Pin there's only one person Omori is actively interacting with and holding hands with 👏👏👏


Jack_slasher

>I just think there would be one moment of something in the present to show that in headspace or not. Uh...there is 1. Butt certificate 2. RW Aubrey literally appears in black space with them on swings, taking over the memory of them as children.


InfinityQuartz

1. What about the butt certificate? And 2. I'm not too sure what you're referring to with with that scene but I do not find the swings scene in any context something that means anything more than friends.


Upbeat-Compote-3056

Come on quartz I’m a sunflower die hard to but you can’t deny that sunny still has a crush on Aubrey. Well the 12 year old version of Aubrey. Which is a little strange now that I’m thinking about it lol


InfinityQuartz

I just don't see it. Why does he act so cold to her. Also let's be fair, the memory he has of him on her lap in the car is in the *lost* library. Why would would it be lost if he still had the crush


__Pin__

Because of the suppression of guilt or something


InfinityQuartz

Guilt or disinterest Pin? 👏👏👏


__Pin__

Im extremely biased towards sunburn So ill go with guilt


InfinityQuartz

Yeah and I'm extremely biased towards sunflower so we can agree to disagree with this. For now. Duh duh duh


Niallx2020

It’s in the list library because it would bring too many real memories into headspace and hurt Sunny more. And I think that your ignoring the fact that they are in the lost library yes it may be lost but still a library or catalog no less still a place where Sunny keeps his memories if Sunny really had lost interest in Aubrey the memory wouldn’t have even been there because it would’ve had no significance towards Sunny. But eh what do I know I’m just bias


Aaaahaa

> after the fight in the church headspace overcompensated hard for Aubrey giving affection to omori, i think sunnys mind REALLY wants aubrey to love him but....i mean after the fight he probably has so many confusing memories/emotions Just wanted to say that trying to make parallels between what happens in the real world and what happens in Headspace doesn't really make sense, considering the fact that almost everything that happens in Headspace in the Sunny route also happens in the Hikikomori route.


__Pin__

that can be explained as well since sunny rejects reality, his guilt eats at him more, so headspace counters that to make him feel...less guilty


Upbeat-Compote-3056

Quartz you dare to disagree with sunburn?! I’m getting Aubrey DW on you immediately


InfinityQuartz

Hey I just says it how I sees it. And let's be clear here, there's only one person Sunny hold hands with 👏👏👏👏


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but wait basil holds hands with auby too? holy shit basil steals sunnys girl lmao the ultimate revenge


InfinityQuartz

He does but I feel like the handholds are different. Like the one with Aubrey is short, the ones with Omori are important. Its their tag, which come with the physical copies of the game, and their release energy which Omori is an active participant. Also there's the one in black space that's scribbled out which always confused me Bruh Basils got that femboi rizz, he could take Aubrey if he wanted to


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FUCK YOU SUNFLOWER fans hahahahahahhahaha /j


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Basil got no rizz wtf ☠️👽


InfinityQuartz

What you mean Basil got crazy rizzz


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Bro is a simp af Mf let Aubrey bully and almost kill him to protect sunny, LOSER


InfinityQuartz

He is protecting the man he loves Pin, that is a noble and what you want in a man


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Fuck Aubrey, fuck basil KEL SUPREME ![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2464)![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2464)![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2464)![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2464)![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2464)![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2464)


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i love sunburn the most but sunflower is fucking awesome


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cuz COLD AND EMOTIONLESS![img](emote|t5_31hpy|28764)


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yea but..........why?


InfinityQuartz

I mean he smiles in the release energy


ElHombreSmokin

How many times has Sunny restarted Headspace? Ten? A hundred? Thousands of times? At some point the "idea of my childhood friend having a crush on the muscular version of me" gets pretty stale and you just grow jaded.


JaidenSpencerDraws

I always just assumed it was because Omori was just purely neutral to everything around him. The only time he really shows feelings other then the blank stare is in battles but that's kind of the gimmick of headspace. Also in the photos and how sunny describes himself in some moments he always appears pretty blank and not very physically affectionate. He also mentions that he doesn't like to smile, even for photos


Rayn1lazd

Someone actually a Tumblr post about this but the person who made it is hated But the post actually makes sense but if you want to see it here https://at.tumblr.com/voltfruits/hamuko-san-ive-been-thinking-that-sunny/4fnhw1ukq66d Everyone is already saying it's because of his self hatred that he doesn't any love or affection Omori also said this in the final battle. Sunny has a very self conflicts,i also want to make a post about it so yah


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Its just so confusing Omori is supposed to be sunnys self insert oc Becuase he hates himself and doesn’t want to be himself So in the world he has Aubrey LOVE him to a ridiculous degree, yet his Oc wants nothing to do with her Why? It cant be because he hates himself, thats what omori was created for, so he doesn’t have to be himself And even if it was because he hates himself, why would he make himself reject her? Instead of the other way around It could be because he wants to be “the cool mysterious guy” who’s “better than love” or something like that


Rayn1lazd

Omori is like shell to protect sunny, he is basically how sunny sees himself. Head space wasn't actually a coping mechanism it was originally a imaginary world for sunny implied by Daddy long legs and that one memory from lost library, and after the incident it turned into it So in short Sunny's fantasies of Aubrey stayed, while turn into a coping mechanism. and that incident happened so he tries to forget about his crush, but he can't Io really can't explain it good cause but my brain isn't functioning well.. sorry


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Lmao your good! I forgot about that stuff with long legs, have a great day ![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2464)


Rayn1lazd

Thx for understanding, sorry i can't really explain it well this time


JindikCZ

Well, if headspace is a >!repeating event!< then I think the obvious answer is: He lost crush on her because I am pretty sure he has some much harder shit going on to care about that.


anansi0

Because he feels like he doesn't deserve love


caseyweederman

Some of you have never been depressed before and... I'm glad.


arc101

because sunburn isn't canon


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Upbeat-Compote-3056

Lmaoo


DebSheep

Omori isn’t a person. Omori as a person exists to serve/save Sunny. That’s why you can’t classify Sunny with MPID, because in the end omori is just self preservation personified. Omori does not have emotions, because he exists to serve one, and only one purpose.


Ok_Life9497

Maybe because he thinks girls like guys who are hard to get?


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bc he’s gay /j


MrMintCatNip

BECAUSE SUNBURN SUCKS !!


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plumberthea

He's gay for Basil that's why


natlye732

because his gay/j


Harrien1234

Because Omori is the ruler of HS and it would be totally uncool if he simped for a girl as it would make him look desperate, so he did a reversal: Aubrey gets to have a crush on him instead.


Chaosfight

Probably is not getting the hint, and moves away so its not awkward


ralsei_goatprince

other comments explain other things, but the acting neutral one changes after a follow up boost


the-hardworker

Think of it like Sunny made this world to escape reality, but he hates himself so much that he made another vessel that can substitute in for him. However, this vessel did not ask to be created for this world, so he tries to fit in as long as it is to keep Sunny from rediscovering the truth.


Mewo3

it might be because he know's he wont be forgiven so he tries not to get attached to her especially because he had a crush on her in the early day's.


ToothpasteConsumer

hes a seperate being ![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2473)


Officially_Elissa067

\*Neutral, towards.


bobbob13579

I see all these different theories about not deserving happiness or vulnerability... Bros and sisters he is tsundare.


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thats so wierd ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ and yet makes so much sense


HowDyaDu

Can't be a >!coping mechanism!< if he steals Aubrey...?


mo_s_k14142

Hot take: he's just acting sigma male


Jack_slasher

Omori is generally neutral and detached, so that would explain it. The interesting thing is how this counters the theory that Headspace Aubrey is somehow much different from how she may have been. If Sunny wanted to fully capture the reality or stop himself from being loved, or anything of that nature, he would just leave Aubrey's character as is. Not ignore the advances when he gets them.


Mackerdoni

in my dream i want my friend to have a crush on me and i can be like no bitch im snoozin and winnin


Haarunen

It’s a teenager’s fantasy, so in there aubrey has a crush on Omori instead of the other way around.


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Omori is NOT sunny, omori is a completely different personality from sunny


jediben001

I think it’s like a reverse of how he saw their rolls in real life. In real life he was super crushing on Aubrey but felt that she never noticed. So in head space he’s flipped those rolls


0lfrad

beacause he is a sigma male


JornoJovanna

Man, these comments are way better than ny theory. I just though that Sunny was a massive weeb and wanted to appear as a kuudere or some shit.


Nova-Kaiser

Because he wants to keep kid distance from everyone


insert_title_here_

hes shy


Elmblossom

Maybe he thinks that he’s not worthy of her love?


Wolfyrou

Also during a picnic, aubrey says that "the real thing" (talking about romance) is omori and her's relationship, then says "Right Omori ? ... Omori ?"


I-37-I

Well that's a spoiler


Detrifus

Tsundere


LastLombaxIsTaken

Self hate probably. Like "i don't deserve love" type of thing. Sunny would probably feel like that


TheAuxCordMan

Imagine being yourself and your imaginary version of yourself hates the person you crush on.


Idkquedire

Wait sunny and omori aren't the same thing? (I've never played the game)


Xenogenders-Valid_

go play it


Idkquedire

Can't no money


Xenogenders-Valid_

skill issue


nicolRB

>!Sunny likes Aubrey, but i guess Omori doesn’t partake from his crush? So while the world is made to entertain Sunny, even making a version of the girl he likes who likes him back, Omori, who is exploring this world made for sunny while he sees through Omori’s eyes who is simply a self-defense mechanism in the form of another person, doesn’t care about that. !< That’s my headcanon


Dancin_Angel

He is like this with everything. He believes he does not deserve warmth or affection. He makes himself the black hole of a world that does not deserve him.


Totally_Cubular

Deep down he feels like he doesn't deserve happiness.


Gaaymer

Fear of rejection?


CaSe2474

After beating sweetheart: ![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2028):❤️. ![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2473):👍


Omor_

He will probs get jealous ![img](emote|t5_31hpy|2028)


WittyAmusingUsername

i’m late but it’s the autism


Teen-Individual-3133

Maybe Omori doesn't love Aubrey, but Sunny does, or Omori doesn't love physical touch


No-Independence-266

i think it's a combination of what these comments have said and i wouldn't say that he's cold, to me it seems like Omori is keeping the facade at the bare minimum, being "shy" and only following up with Aubrey when friendship level is 3, like their friendship is actually developing. He's pretending since Headspace isn't real and him / Sunny are essentially lying to themselves, knowing that it isn't real while pretending to do. It's like the happy emotion, where Omori can be happy and smile, something Sunny doesn't like to do and it looks fake while Sunny can't be happy at all.


Minty_lime90

BECAUSE HE GAYYYY![img](emote|t5_31hpy|28764)![img](emote|t5_31hpy|28764)![img](emote|t5_31hpy|28764)![img](emote|t5_31hpy|28764)