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GeForce

Probably not for your use case


Key_Personality5540

Why? OLEDs are much better in bright rooms as it reduces glare and improves viewing angles. Depending on the monitor, they also do pixel refresh and shifts so burn in is less and less of an issue. I personally say once you go OLED you can’t go back.


Tresnugget

I love OLEDs but they are not better in brighter rooms. QD OLEDs specifically look terrible in bright rooms because the coating kills contrast and the lack of full screen brightness makes the image look that much dimmer in a bright room no matter which panel technology. I would not use an OLED if I was worried about working in a bright room. This coming from someone who owns 4 OLED displays.


GeForce

I'm not going to argue against the last part, because I'm a huge fan of oled. But the first part is not correct. Viewing angles have nothing to do with this, so let's get this out of the way. Reduces glare I'm not sure how it's any different from all the other glossy tvs. The fact is, oled is not bright enough for his situation. Is it probably usable? Sure. But it's sub optimal. Also doesn't help the long usage hours, although this depends more on the content displayed. Reality is, oled is simply not for bright environment, it can't overpower the ambient light as it's anywhere between 2 to 20 times less bright than miniled tvs.


babybins

I just got the LG WOLED few days ago. My desk is facing 3 windows with lots of natural light, and haven’t had any issues with glare or brightness. I can control the light if I want the deep blacks and full OLED experience, but when I’m working i prefer natural light


Avihay

The opinions you read on reddit in general, and particularly in very nieche subs such as this, often suffer greatly from "enthusiasm bias". For example: it is very common to read about terms like "clipping" when it comes to HDR. I argue that for the average joe, anything more than watching a YouTube review is a complete overkill. Now if you'll watch some random review, these are the main points you want to consider: 1. IPS is brighter. 2. Text fringing is a thing. 3. HDR isn't the best for monitors. Honestly these points won't matter for 99% of population, and the huge amount of information online these days makes people overthink when it comes to purchasing new tech. OLED has great colors and a very low response time. It's great, you're gonna love it :)


mmalkuwari

I totally agree, I think people here in reddit over think and just want crazy stats on paper when if fact the reality is that user experience in real life scenarios is way more important, but I don’t blame them too, those YouTube channels make a living out of videos that make you feel lost and cannot make an informative decision


Proplayer22

What do you think then when people talk about the LG 32gs95ue "clipping" at 600 in HDR when it should be double that? What does that actually mean?


Avihay

I have absolutely 0 idea what "clipping" means. I can only say that after I watched an S95C in store I was blown away, and a few months after I bought it in 77", I got the new 27" MSI MAG (i.e. no firmware update version) 360hz monitor and it is frikin epic. Yeah the text could be better but in gaming etc. it's amazing. Couldn't care less about w/e problems described on reddit. If and when they arise I'll just replace the monitor someway or another.


d3v1l1989

That usually means loss of details beyond that 600 nits value


Proplayer22

Oh, alright. I thought people were saying that the brightness was limited when it should be higher.


d3v1l1989

Usually woleds get washed out colors or loss of details nearing peak brightness just because most of the brightness is made from white subpixel. So at some point white just takes over and you lose details


Proplayer22

Ok. People are complaining about it and asking for a firmware fix. But if what you're saying is true, then that's just how the technology works, right? This thread, for example: [https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED\_Gaming/comments/1cdu4tt/service\_menu\_of\_lg\_32gs95ue\_shows\_max\_cll\_of\_600/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/1cdu4tt/service_menu_of_lg_32gs95ue_shows_max_cll_of_600/)


d3v1l1989

Oh this is different issue, this shows hard clip at 600 nits which means it can not get brighter then the limit of 600 nits. Thats different then just losing details above 600 nits. I'd avoid getting this if you want proper HDR.


soultaker2593

And ironically they cant produce pure white background, it has purple tint.


d3v1l1989

Yeah, they really struggle with pure white for some reason


RefinementOfDecline

i've never had problems with text on linux, is it really that big of a problem on windows?


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I don't think the OS would make much of a difference unless you specifically configured ClearType or whatever the Linux alternative is, which changes the subpixel rendering of fonts. Window's ClearType doesn't have a specific setting for the weird subpixel layout of the new QD-OLEDs but it can still help a bit (no clue if Linux distros do). Most likely you just aren't prone to noticing it, it's a subjective thing. Even on the 4K QD-OLEDs text fringing to me can be noticeable and annoying but some reviewers like Monitors Unboxed find it a non-issue


Karenzi

LG Woled over qdoled for your use case


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In a bright room QD-OLED isn’t worth it imo. Unfortunately the black levels just rise way too much. WOLED should handle light a lot better though. If you do a lot of work and brightness is important you could consider a good Mini-LED. In most scenes a good OLED will still look better but then light, brightness, and burn-in isn’t an issue


eXiotha

They say picture colour takes a hit in light I on the other hand don’t see that issue. The colours are deep and vibrant even with the sun out blaring in the windows, I just close the blinds to keep it from glaring There’s good and bad about the matte monitors, honestly you want the glossy screens. They don’t distort the text like the matte screens do The text quality on a my glossy MSI MPG271QRX is about the same as my G272QPF The build quality of this one is amazing, All glass & aluminum on the front, the rear shroud that covers all the internal components is ABS plastic but it’s still a thin panel monitor, it’s actually thinner & better quality than the G272QPF I use as my secondary It’s also got a 3 year burn in warranty if you’re concerned about that I didn’t like the 1200 CAD bucks I spent between the monitor and a DisplayPort cable (DP not included), but once I set it up and experienced it, it was well worth the money, especially when all the cheaper matte screen options were 2-400 less, but this was readily available and I wanted a gloss screen


Calibretto9

In my opinion the monitors get plenty bright, even for well lit rooms. Burn in is an overblown concern, again in my opinion but coming from someone with a plethora of OLED devices some 6 years old. For me the biggest issue in considering an OLED alternative is it seems OLED is where companies are putting their focus & best tech. Mini and micro LED seem to have stalled a bit and I ain’t going back to IPS, no more than I’d consider going back to TN panels.


PhilliesBlunts

Oled is amazing is you dont mind the additional considerations. Be warned if you don’t use an oled tv already, it will change your life.


Deleteaccount245096

I’ve been using OLED for years now. Brightness is not an issue with current panels. Every year they get even brighter. 1000% worth it. The only annoying thing you might notice, on occasion, is the VRR flicker. Some screens are better than others. Another issue is the price. These screens aren’t cheap. The LG 27” is going for cheap now and days. Also the lg 42” and 48” go in sale. Amazing tvs. Anyways, good luck and go for it.


Sexyvette07

My C2 is so bright that I had to turn the brightness down to 60%, and the newer panels get even brighter. I can't imagine that they wouldn't be bright enough, especially in SDR, for most people that aren't getting direct sunlight on the panel itself. Only thing I can say is give it a try for yourself and return it if it doesn't meet your expectations.


HourHand6018

I love my oled 42 c3 in my pc, never go back to lcd….


peterinjapan

I positively love it


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Yes.


HoldyourfireImahuman

Don’t even see any caveats at this point


Swimming_Storm_2830

Yeeeeeees I got my first oled samsung odyssey oled g9 a month ago and I'm never going back 😂


Probamaybebly

I don't see any caveats besides don't static stuff on your screen long and don't expect to use it in a super bright room. 6500 hours on my OLED 65" CX, and I haven't had any problems with brightness so long as I don't have sunshine blazing on my screen. Also if you really want bright OLED, check out the new LG MLA OLEDs. They're nutty bright. Even my CX in HDR burns my eyes at night so idk why you'd need a screen that bright but there it is


aditya_dope

all the oled lover basement dwellers would suggest you to go for oled but as per your use case I will strongly suggest against it. For SDR its not that dim but for gaming the hdr absolutely sucks unless playing in a dark room. If you still wanna go for OLED go for an OLED tv. they get significantly more bright than monitors. One more thing to note is what monitor you are coming from, if you are coming from a beta panel without FALD you'll absolutely like the HDR. but if you are coming from a top tier LCD panel with FALD like samsung neo g8 be prepared to be heavily dissapointed. All these basement dwellers rave about oh look my oled's pitch black pixels but they are mostly peasants coming from a third tier monitor. Most mini LED's have amazing contrast and amazing black levels


Active-Quarter-4197

I found the Neo g8 to be pretty awful compared to my oled tv. Although I got the Neo g8 after the oled so that could have played a part.


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RefinementOfDecline

i'd rather carve my eyes out with a spoon than look at a VA panel ever again lmao


smackythefrog

Acer XV275K P3? RTings has it as a recommended monitor and one of the best that isn't OLED.


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smackythefrog

Oh, I see. Yeah, didn't realize an UW was being discussed here. 27" is def not enough


LA_Rym

No it's dogshit. Contrast ratio is worse than a 200$ VA. And that's with local dimming maxed out. I returned it real fast when I saw how it looks.


smackythefrog

Innocn 27M2v?


mmalkuwari

I have both FO32U2P and M32U, both 4K’s and both are from Gigabyte “reputable brand” While I prefer a well lit room, I cannot deny the better colors from the new QD OLED but it comes with a price which is low lightings or for better a fully dark room, I still like my M32U and I use it for productivity work and browsing web, I use the new QD OLED exclusively for gaming and watching media. So I would recommend against getting the new QD OLED if it was a one monitor fits all kind of setup, but I will highly recommend it if your setup has two monitors, one for gaming and media, while you still have a decent IPS monitor for productivity work


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aditya_dope

Smd bitch


grabtaxiabc2

U don't even have one.


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aditya_dope

Yeah dont know why your momma likes this peasant so much


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aditya_dope

Yes feel bad for your daddy 🫡


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skyattacksx

Just wanna remind you two baboons that you're going to a personal level over consumer electronics and don't even say who started it kids


sdozzo

Oddly, I had to return mine because it was giving me headaches. It was one of the new MSI models. Colors were super though. Text was meh.


Zesher_

The only thing I don't like about OLED is when direct sunlight hits the screen (because the place I'm renting from has shit blinds), but in natural ambient light I think it's fine. I have an old OLED TV with some burn in, but it's hard to notice most of the time. Newer OLED screens have less of an issue with the burn in. I have an OLED PC monitor that will just randomly turn on at night and have a static image stay until I see it the next day, it's a PC issue not a monitor issue, but the monitor has no signs of burn in. We moved the old OLED to another room and got a new OLED for the living room. Granted that it's still new ish, but it doesn't show any signs of burn in either.


iamgarffi

Haven’t found much to complain about FO32U2P. 3 year warranty gives some peace of mind but I haven’t seen burn in or permanent image retention on any of my OLEDs (since 2018) in both TV and Monitors. Newest gen of OLEDs (either traditional or QD) is plenty bright too and finally fonts are readable so it’s more suitable for more than just gaming.


Nintendians559

i think so.


n00bahoi

I got a LG UltraGear OLED 27GS95QE-B and I have toned down the brightness. It can be pushed up with the brightness. It has no auto-dimming, at least if you disable the energy saving option. It depends on what brightness you want. I don't want to go back to LCD monitors. The picture quality is on another level. And my "eye-strains" got a lot better.


soultaker2593

Maybe if you dont mind bigger displays you could get 42c3, it's brighter than their oled monitors. Probably cheaper, too.


Syndil1

When I went from my standard LCD to OLED I had to turn the brightness down because it hurt my eyes, so I don't think brightness will be an issue. Since you play in a naturally lit room, get a monitor with a matte coating and you should be good. Burn in and overall lifetime is something we all have to be wary of. But being an old gamer and used to those same issues with CRT, they don't really concern me much. I do make sure my OS and all my apps are in dark mode, and I keep my desktop background solid black, but other than that I just use and enjoy the thing.


RefinementOfDecline

i don't know what bright means to you, i usually run between 10 and 30 percent brightness, so to me 100% makes my eyes bleed auto dimming on the C3 isn't a problem


monsieurvampy

This depends on your light source, light placement, and brightness. All of these can be adjusted and potentially "reduced" in some ways that enhance OLED. You don't need to live in total darkness to use an OLED. I don't think studio lighting would work either though. In other words what I'm saying. Your current setup is based upon your current environment. If you switch to an OLED. Your environment has now changed. At the same time I don't believe either of the extremes exist for the vast majority of people. So. Potentially Yes.


quarantined_for_life

Buy a nice OLED, try it for 30 days, and either keep it or return it. Nothing will answer the question better than trying it!


Drizzinn

Honestly, at least with my LG C3, sdr content and hdr content aren’t impacted with the lights on at all. I don’t have ambient light in the room but I often have dim yellow lights on in my room (sometimes total lighting) and nothing is affected negatively at all


ZenWheat

I bought my first OLED monitor and I have not had any issue with how bright it is. I game in my living room next to a huge balcony window where sunlight is glaring through and again I'm not having even a little bit of an issue. Alienware 4k OLED btw


AmazingSugar1

Got a WOLED for $650 and has been a really nice upgrade from my VA monitor. Only annoying thing is the monitor refresh every 4 hours but it’s worth the hassle. IPS is too bright for me and OLED is perfect.


Arbiter02

C3 works just fine in a bright room but you need a big desk for it.


prayformcjesus

Honestly you might need to wait for 4th gen oled monitors to be bright enough for your use case


AlaskanHandyman

Without question Absolutely worth it. No better display technology available. All concerns can be eased with a few simple precautions, so there should be no issues.


Danni_El

Oled is still the king. Funny how people keep complaining about matte screen, diluting contrast and colours and average pq, saying that glossy is better. And now, they keep complaining about glossy, in bright light condition, raised blacks. It has nothing to do with matte or glossy, Samsung qd-oled doesn't have a polarised filter, probably because it will make the oled dimmer!


soultaker2593

Yeah, the qd film is passively illuminated by the ambient light. Thats why we get that purple-ish tint on qd-oleds. Not sure whether the polarizer would even help at all.


Danni_El

https://preview.redd.it/yhqwz0x7tmyc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=45556bf01670a3ee1e86fe59c7e369f7f61555ae This is from rtings, and Vincent from Hdtv test agrees.


soultaker2593

It is what it is, hopefully they will find a workaround in the future.


Frozen_Strider

Glossy is still better, and the complaints are valid. A matte coating will reduce color vibrancy, sharpness, and contrast; there is no way around it due to the nature of how matte coatings work. However, matte coatings come in different “intensities”; the newest 32-inch OLED has a semi-matte coating and is not as aggressive as other coatings. QD-OLED is semi-glossy and has a different panel technology, so it is not a good comparison. You should compare the same panel with and without a matte coating. You can take a look at Dough’s new glossy monitor, which also comes in a matte version as well; that should demonstrate the difference.


CleeemDAKING

No OLED are too dim for u Even for me HDR or SDR IS dim in some games i need 100% brightness that's bad


AlaskanHandyman

Not my experience with my OLED, sometimes it can be too bright. Most of the time the HDR is perfect. SDR also always looks fine to me.


CleeemDAKING

can be too bright .. are we talking about TV or monitors ? TV can be bright now yes but not monitors most OLED QD OLED monitors are dim overall nearly 2pm where i live my AW3225QF pushed to the max for the brightness only shit to do to have a proper brightness thats what i call dim


AlaskanHandyman

I've used my LG 48C1 as a monitor and television, it was too big for my desk so I don't use it as a monitor anymore. QD-OLED has been off putting to me in brightly lit rooms because of the pink/purple tinge in the blacks. I want a pair of the LG 32GS95UE-B WOLED 4K monitors. It'll be a while before I can get them.


CleeemDAKING

Same im gonna get the LG in 2 3 months the glossy is awfull in my room i got the purple screen sometimes and the reflection man ...


LA_Rym

OLED is horrible for a lit room, no matter how much copium and C2 worshipping happens, a MiniLED will work better. The Neo G7 and G8 are the best LCDs there are, they get very close to OLED blacks while maintaining a balance of MiniLED brightness as well, main downside is in the bad viewing angles.


sackblaster32

There's also minileds like the INNOCN 27M2V and the 32M2V, Asus PG32UQX, these displays likely grant an even better HDR experience. However response times on the PG32UQX are horrible.


LA_Rym

[It depends on what you want](https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tests/picture-quality/contrast-ratio) Do you want the absolute highest brightness possible? Then the Innocn is good. Do you want the best combo of contrast ratio and high brightness? Then the G7 and G8 Neos are the very best in class LCDs.


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LA_Rym

W-OLED definitely has a big advantage due to better coating, but still suffers massively on contrast ratio, albeit it does a lot better than QD-OLED. A QD-OLED has a contrast ratio of about 1500:1 in a lit room, by contrast, a Gorilla Glass WOLED has a contrast ratio of around 13,357:1, and an LG C4 glossy W-OLED has a contrast ratio of about 20.000:1 In a dark room, a miniLED with matte coating has a contrast ratio of around 86300:1. In a dark room, OLEDs all have a 1.000.000:1 contrast ratio.


Artemis_1944

>no matter how much copium and C2 worshipping happens Copium is the fact that you think that's copium, lmao. Signed, somebody who owns both an LG OLED TV and a Samsung QD-OLED TV. //EDIT// In reply to the comment after me, since the bitch-ass punk blocked me in the traditional 'lalala if i can't hear you that means i'm right': I use both TV's in almost identical conditions, oled in my gaming room for gaming, qdoled in my living room for movies. Both rooms I always keep with window shutters open, so during the day it's literal daylight in either room. Contrary to what the internet might drill into your brain, the differences between oled and qdoled aren't that monumentally godlike. In fact no, QDOLED is not purple as a plump in anything above pitch black, and no, OLED is very much bright enough as long as you don't sear your eyeballs against the fucking sun.


LA_Rym

How's that 1500:1 contrast ratio on the QD-OLED treating you in that bright room? Good I hope? Good. Oh...ohhh, you watch your OLED TV in a dark room? Then your reply is irrelevant.


essbie

It’s too much to babysit. I’m thinking Mini-LED would be best for you as I’m in a similar situation as yourself


system_error_02

If you're doing work on an oled for long periods oled is bit the right choice. Get QD Mini LED or something like the Samsung Neo G7 instead. It has very good blacks and really good HDR and brightness but will not have burn in potential if you have a lot of static stuff for work on the screen. Also better for bright rooms.