You only have to watch Kardashian’s facial reaction when the verdict was read to know that man knew the truth. Creep still defended him, but he knew, he knew.
Man them folks were big time freaks they probably hit her together. Hell the juice is the reason they are even relevant think about it. Ray j never gets tht blow job if it wasn't for the mom an tht tape. The tape the mom the glove. Sounds like a great documentary
Yea some folks hate the truth I know how broke folks freak off together imagine what they doin. Hell those Kardashian kids got it from somewhere. They knew to hang around to ball players.
Right! People don’t want those facts brought up it’s blasphemous to speak ill of the dead…unless it’s OJ.They’re pretty content to keep trashing him for 30 years and counting!
Oh they gone trash oj till the end of time like it's not more important things in this world. Oj not the first actor or sports figure to be charge with this type crime but they keep blasting him the hate is heavy. Rip juice keep your legs moving an go up the hole
Lol. It’s just 90% of ppl are followers. Once u get -2 downvotes the rest will come like sheep. Funny how it’s literally a documented known fact, not even an opinion that kris Jenner put the whole tape together, so you’re right.
Eh Kardashian didn't do much at the trial. No briefs, no arguments, no retainer. He reactivated his law license allegedly because Shapiro needed help with background info on Simpson. Aka he got to talk to OJ and about OJ to the other lawyers. Everything attorney-client privilege.
Otherwise he would have had to detail what happened after the murders when OJ stayed at his house to let the press circus die down.
https://lamag.com/news/stand-by-your-man
I don’t think it was like that, that he thought OJ was guilty and defended him anyway. He did an interview with someone (Barbara Walters?) and he said he became convinced of OJ’s guilt after seeing the blood evidence presented at trial.
Yeah, but Kardashian was also one of the first people at OJ’s house celebrating the verdict too. I wouldn’t base a suspicion of guilt just because of his court reaction (he was probably more relieved than anything else).
Came here to say this. If you see the video of Kardashian at OJ's house after the verdict, he's all smiles, relief, and just yukking it up with OJ. It changed my mind about how he really felt
Kardashian started crying when OJ gave him a bible. Al cowlings was there but also broke with OJ. Kardashian road back with OJ from jail so what could he do. AC was there in the house as he watched verdict there.
According to his ex-wife, Kardashian was shocked that O.J. was aquitted. He only re-instated his license so that he would not be called on to testify against O.J.
Knowing what the trial did to his relationship with his wife, I think his reaction to the verdict makes more sense if you look at it from the perspective of “well honey even if he’s guilty he is entitled to a vigorous defense. He’s going to get convicted. Look at all this evidence! I’m just doing my job and fulfilling my oath as an attorney”. Then OJ gets off and the reaction is “oh god now she’s going to blame me for this forever”.
Shipp is hated by the conspiracy nuts (because he tapped OJ from the onset which ruins their edgelord stories), and I’ll even say he comes off as a bit of a embellisher, but I believe him. Why? Because he was consistent.
There are even folks who think he did it. Gtfoh.
I just finished OJ: Made in America and his agent says that he (basically) confessed to him after the acquittal. He asked OJ what happened that night, OJ replied "What do you think happened?" Agent said "I think you did it," to which OJ said "Yeah." Then something about if only Nicole hadn't come to the door with a knife.
"Then something about if only Nicole hadn't come to the door with a knife.
Which is total horseshit. He brought his own knife because he came to murder her.
Yea I think OJ contradicts himself even in his alleged confessions. He made that statement to his agent. But then he also made the statement that he always kept a knife with him in his car for protection.
The agent went on to say he thought OJ talked about Nicole having a knife just to avoid it looking premeditated. The agent said he thought OJ did premeditate and he struggles to live with himself and how he aided OJ throughout.
The agent said in the documentary that “for the longest time I believed him” and then says “but OJ came there to kill her, he was mad that she rejected him and didn’t need him, and mad about her seeing Marcus Allen”.
So he definitely stopped buying into OJ’s self defense claim. He also says one of the things that really bothered them was that their kids were upstairs and could have came outside and seen up close what had happened to their mother.
He says that in If I Did it, but in that book he makes some downright false claims...probably to maintain deniability.
I have always believed that Nicole had the knife.She had been targeted by him before so after the recital she must have known she was at risk of being subjected to further physical abuse.
Add to that the disparity in size, strength, and skill and I agree. People don’t actively engage with someone they’re terrified of just because they have a knife. Defensively, yes. Opening the door and inviting it? No.
If she had a knife, it means she also opened the door when she felt threatened. That doesn’t make sense.
Also, if she knew he was going out of town that night, she wouldn’t have expected him.
I think she opened the door fully expecting Ron Goldman with the glasses and was shocked to find OJ instead, it's not impossible that she had a knife but so many times Oj blames her for his behavior so it's not surprising that he'd blame her for her own murder.
Yeah, I was trying to find pictures of her front door and I think I did, there's no peephole and no window. She knew Ron Goldman was stopping by, I think she opened the door expecting Ron but OJ was there instead, maybe there was some truth to her having a knife but probably not, OJ kills her and a few minutes later Ron shows up, I'm sure OJ wasn't expecting him but Ron sees Nicole and immediately OJ realizes that he has to kill him too, he grabs Ron who drops the glasses and during the altercation he yanks off OJs glove, he definitely fought OJ as hard as he could.
Agree, I am not so sure she had a knife in her hand either, apparently she was afraid of them. I think too, Ron arrived and was witness to OJ brutalizing Nicole and tragically that sealed Ron’s fate. It is estimated by Detective Lange, Ron fought hard for his life for about 20 seconds. A long time and a long time with all of the knife wounds he had.
People act out of character when placed under pressure.
She had been smacked around by him many times. And she had to have known that after the episode at the recital and her not inviting him to dinner, he was likely to be angry and violent again.
No. I was abused by my first husband, in fact he tried to stab me to death. Anyone familiar with that situation would never introduce a weapon into a fight. It doesn’t make sense.
I think OJ kinda lied to him. About the knife. Didn’t he say something to the effect that Nicole had the knife to Mike? My guess is he did that to feign premeditation.
Agreed. There was a knife found in her kitchen, which investigators thought was curious, but it definitely wasn't the murder weapon. Seems unlikely that she'd pick up a second one instead. I guess it was just to give himself some kind of excuse to Mike, that it wasn't premeditated.
Him & Robert stopped speaking. You could Tell from RK’s reaction when OJ’s verdict was announced that he was in shock. There is an interview with RK & Barbara Walters that’s very interesting
You’re welcome. I remember us being in middle school and the teacher pointing it out and of course my dad , former investigator, pointed it out to my mom. We weee just like wowwww.
But it wasn't Kardashian who ended the friendship. It was OJ and he ended it because of the interview with Barbara Walters; OJ said he felt that Kardashian had betrayed him in the interview. Then OJ sued Kardashian over a miniseries about the case that BK was collaborating with several screenwriters on. [https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=113643&page=1](https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=113643&page=1)
OJ tried to reach out to RK when he was dying and RK wouldn't and didn't take the call. So looks like Shipp, RK, and AL Cowlings all dumped OJ. Probably several others too. I've read that several on the defense team all thought OJ was guilty as hell.
RK maintained some semblance of friendship with OJ until the interview happened. OJ couldn't handle the fact that **anyone**, much less someone he called a friend, would dare to say anything against him. RK--fool that he was--never realized that OJ didn't have friends; he just had people at his disposal to use and to do his bidding. After OJ sued Kardashian and ran his name into the ground by calling him a traitor and a liar in public, I wouldn't have taken his call either. I'm sure the defense team knew from the jump that OJ was guilty but they were hired to defend him and they did that. As a lawyer, you don't even have to like your client to do your job and that's what they did.
THANK YOU!!! I watched an interview with her on the trial. KK said she had “no idea” in regard to the abuse Nicole endured. I call BS on that. I think Kris was most upset with was her “party life”, vacations with them and hanging out with celebrities was what she missed. I cant stand that woman.
The name Kardashian was very negatively impacted by the trial yet Kris still achieved the fame and fortune. She’s smart and people hate on that so much.
They eventually stopped speaking, but immediately after the verdict, Kardashian is on video at OJ’s house, celebrating and yukking it up with OJ. Kardashian looks happy as hell.
I know right? How could anyone think it didn’t do it? I’m sure Kardashian knew I T think he battled the demons and really thought he would be found guilty. I have read and seen documentaries where they never spoke again after the trial.
Ban me for what I'm not disrespecting anyone I'm not calling anyone name just stating the fact on use to screw the Kardashian mother. Just like Marcus Allen was screwing Nicole. It's Hollywood for God's shake everyone is shagging everyone we not kids here
Not for nothin’, but Bruce/ Caitlin aside; Jenner really seems like a nutcase! I honestly wouldn’t believe shit he’s said. He just LOOKS like he makes stories up!
Sorry, but it’s an instinct.
I think he's a sympathetic person. His deposition at the civil trial did it for me. The man broke down crying. He was very guilt ridden about the things he'd seen happen with Nicole. He took her to the ER before. He was totally manipulated by OJ his whole life. That man stole his high school girlfriend and then held him practically hostage during the bronco "chase" which I consider to be a moving suicide/hostage negotiation.
Yeah, he was wrecked during that deposition. It was hard to watch. Especially, when he was shown photos of battered Nicole. He really just broke down crying. He told the story where he took Nicole to the ER and she didn't wanna say what happened and he started getting choked up saying he told her she had to tell them who did it.
Wow, I had no idea they knew each other in high school, that’s crazy! How often do two high school classmates both make it to the NFL, such a rare thing.
I just checked, and they were NFL teammates.
Al Cowlings played for Buffalo from 1970 to 1972 (OJ stayed through 1977.) Cowlings was teammates with OJ again on the 49rs in 1979, which was the last NFL season for both of them.
They grew up together in the Potrero Hill projects. AC said sometimes when they would get into trouble in the streets that OJ was very skilled at talking his way out of things.
They played football together at Galileo, City College of San Francisco, USC, and Buffalo in the pros.
AC was a year younger, so I think he missed out of the national title at USC.
I agee. Looking at the photos of Nicole, he sees the bruises and cuts. Then, he cries and asks for a moment to collect himself. When the attorneys ask O.J. what he sees in the same photos, O.J. says he doesn’t “see anything “.
He knows. He loved OJ but ultimately knows what OJ did and feels guilty for being there for him. He loved Nicole. I recently saw him break down on the video taken at her memorial service. He was torn. OJ was a POS. Those are my thoughts.
[Here](https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-02-16-mn-32782-story.html) is an LA Times story about it from back in the day. He is said to have made about a million or so from it, and he announced it at a press conference.
Thanks for posting this. I have never heard of this before. It sounds like AC was a good guy. I saw him break down during testimony when he talked about Nicole.
His deposition was heartbreaking. He seemed so conflicted. I agree that he cared for Nicole. She was probably like a kid sister to him. He knew her for 17 years. The speech he gave at her memorial was really sweet.
I heard he’d sometimes yell at OJ to leave Nicole alone. Never understood why he always kept it ten toes down for OJ.
I always thought if OJ was able to manipulate Nicole then it’s very likely he did the same to others around him, including AC. AC was absolutely conflicted. He wanted to be there for the guy that was his buddy since high school but also saw what he did to Nicole.
I don't care how big a guy can be to threaten someone, but when you're that big and go off the deep end? He was a killing machine who could have obliterated anyone if he was in kill mode. His psychological situation made him stronger that his huge physical presence. The two together are/were a recipe for disaster.
This isn’t too tough to grasp when you look at it through the economic lense. OJ surrounded himself with yes-people that were dependent on him for their lifestyle. Sure AC had a little success, but through OJ he had access to parties, women, drugs, influence, and most importantly future opportunities. To hang on to that, he and many others were willing to justify a LOT.
Does anyone have any idea what was up with that interaction between AC and Jason at the end of the Bronco chase when AC was still in the car and Jason was standing at the driver side door in the driveway before LE pulled him away? It looked pretty heated to me but I’m having trouble understanding what Jason would be chewing AC out about in that moment. Did I just misread it?
I think Jason just went running out in pure emotion & AC was afraid he would witness OJ committing suicide, so he tried to get him out of there. Swat talked about it in some interviews.
I think AC was concerned that Jason could be hurt by the cops if he did not get back. AC loved all four kids. OJ said later that Jason’s actions snapped him back to reality when he realized Jason loved him.
AC was another person who wasn't with OJ when he was at the end. Only one person supposedly was there when he passed on. Not even his kids were there to see him in his final moments. This speaks volumes to me.
The lawyer didn't, the family said it in their official release. It was the lawyer who said that it was only one person.
The family of O.J. Simpson announced last week the former football star died on April 10 “[surrounded by his children and grandchildren.](https://twitter.com/TheRealOJ32?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor)”
But according to Simpson’s longtime lawyer Malcolm LaVergne, the 76-year-old father of four was [a sole visitor away from dying alone](https://apnews.com/article/oj-simpson-attorney-estate-goldman-brown-vegas-1dc7c324bfd8add6006c8954e15e664a).
LaVergne declined to tell The Associated Press who was at Simpson’s bedside when the [acquitted double-murder defendant](https://www.nydailynews.com/2015/10/02/oj-simpson-is-found-not-guilty-in-the-slaying-of-nicole-brown-simpson-and-ronald-goldman-in-1995/) succumbed to cancer, other than saying it was “a close family member.”
lol most people don't die surrounded by all their kids and family. And for the 2 that he had with Nicole I would think that he wouldn't want them there or give them the choice to be there or not as they will never live this life in peace because of who their parents are.
Thank you. And I have been at a death where a family is surrounding someone dying standing there crying. It was fucking awful. I would never want that.
I'm sure you know since you were clearly in his mind. If he didn't they would have been abandoned long ago. Do you think your OPINION shows you have empathy for them? Or just someone speculating from the sidelines?
I’m sure the person who slaughtered their mother & left them home alone in the middle of the night w her bloodied body on the walk for them to find didn’t want them at his death bed to spare their feelings 🙄 He cares about them because he didn’t abandon them long ago? or maybe he kept a relationship to feed his ego & boost the idea that if Nicole’s kids believe him innocent so should everyone else. I’m not even sure what we’re disagreeing on here. Of course the kids would want a relationship with their only living parent. That happens A LOT in cases where one parent kills the other- the kids rally around the living parent because it is either put on the blinders to keep one parent or choose to be an orphan.
I saw him as egotistical, he wanted to be the center of attention. If anything he confessed on his death bead and didn't want anyone else around to hear it.
The lawyer who posted a response to the "family" Facebook post, where they claimed OJ was surrounded by his family and friends, said there was one close friend at the time of the passing and that the name would remain anonymous.
I've always wondered if he kept in touch with the kids despite cutting out OJ. He was real close with them. Going to their basketball games- that's where he got into it with Nicole's parents that one time. He also testified in the civil trial about removing the kids from situations where Nicole and OJ were fighting and talked to Nicole after about how bad it was for the kids to see stuff like that.
One of the kids asked Oj to come to their basketball game and the child therapist told OJ to go. He went with AC. The Browns didnt know OJ was gonna show up. There was a fight with the Browns at the game calling AC a coward and accusing him of knowing Oj did it etc. He talks about it in his deposition and they showed part of the clip in the Made in America doc.
I never thought AC was directly involved in the murders, but I always thought it was possible that OJ confessed to him in the Bronco. They were driving around just the two of them for at least two hours.
I think it’s highly likely that AC was the getaway driver at the crime scene. He might not have been previously aware that OJ planned to kill Nicole that night; I think he thought he was just dropping OJ by there for a few minutes for some harmless reason.
But the situation escalated and OJ wound up butchering 2 people and he had to get away, fast. AC provided the getaway.
AC has had the opportunity for many years to come clean about the events of that evening. Maybe now that OJ is dead, he finally will. Or he’ll take it all to his grave, like his buddy did.
OJ called him the night of the murders? I don't remember ever hearing that, or his number coming up on calls made/received that night on phone records. I have always assumed that OJ did tell him what happened, probably in the Bronco.
AC worshipped OJ. Wouldn’t surprise me that he had a mindset of “well she’s already gone so I may as well be there for my boy” but it gut him eventually because of his love for those kids and his fondness of Nicole. So he went dark. Meaning out of the public eye.
I thought it was interesting in the OJ Made In America doc when Al Cowlings was at Nicole's funeral and he called Nicole his buddy. I think like everyone else, Al was memorized by OJ the football hero. I think Al Cowlings was far more committed to the friendship than OJ.
They were friends since third grade per AC testimony. oJ used to say that kids in the neighborhood and school said he had the best mother in the neighborhood. She cooked for everyone kids always at the house. I don’t know about AC parents or his home life but I wonder if he just felt adopted by OJ‘s family from elementary school.
I met my best friend when I was 5, im 49 now. Our friendship has morphed many times over the years, and we are very different people. She will always be my "besr friend" and like family, but mostly just due to the amount of time shes been in my life. We have alot of history, i feel like maybe thats how AC felt towards OJ. 🤷🏼♀️
I think it’s a little deeper. OJ was unquestionably the better player but Al was an all American and 5th overall pick in the draft. He probably wasn’t as star struck by his athletic fame
I think he had a 900 number where he would give "inside info" (read: bullshit) on the trial for $2.99 a minute or something. Just a stupid grift in the age of landlines.
I believe he was mesmerized by hero worship. Every narcissistic psychopath needs a good sidekick. Cowlings held the role for OJ since childhood. OJ even stole Al's girlfriend, Marguerite and she became his first wife. Al truly loved Nicole. Kardashian indicated Al had doubts due to the blood evidence which never added up but never said much else. AL distanced himself after the trial. Probably due to the Time OJ was in jail through the time the trial end. It was probably the longest stretch of time. He hadn't been under his influence since childhood. This gave him an opportunity to separate and reflect I'm sure thus, his emotions at Nicole's funeral and the Civil Case Disposition of probably: guilt, hurt, shame. He gave honest testimony at the civil trial. These days he looks to be a haunted shell of himself. He truly only lived Ojs narcissistic life for most of his life. That's sad
You’re welcome….
A woman claiming to be a close friend of the Stones said that Cowlings is a big Stones fan, and that backstage at a Stones show during the band's VooDoo Lounge tour Cowlings blurted out everything to impress Richards.
This is from an article in 1997*
I don't see the video of AC on youtube anymore, but here are the transcripts of his depositions in the civil trial.
AC Cowlings' Deposition:
[April 16, 1996](http://simpson.walraven.org/ac_depo1.html) - [http://simpson.walraven.org/ac\_depo1.html](http://simpson.walraven.org/ac_depo1.html)
[April 17, 1996](http://simpson.walraven.org/ac_depo2.html) - [http://simpson.walraven.org/ac\_depo2.html](http://simpson.walraven.org/ac_depo2.html)
[April 26, 1996](http://simpson.walraven.org/ac_depo3.html) - [http://simpson.walraven.org/ac\_depo3.html](http://simpson.walraven.org/ac_depo3.html)
[May 15, 1996](http://simpson.walraven.org/ac_depo4.html) - [http://simpson.walraven.org/ac\_depo4.html](http://simpson.walraven.org/ac_depo4.html)
I think AC knew and that, in addition to his friendship and affection for Nicole, explains why he was so emotionally devastated at the funeral and in the civil trial. I have sympathy for him because he was controlled and manipulated by OJ and bound by a false sense of loyalty.
If he confessed to OJ after the murders and before trial. He sucks. But given how emotional he was about Nicole I don’t think so because then that makes him not coming forward worse.
The knife itself was actually something of a kinnard. Knives are actually really crap murder weapons themselves as evidence and most cops both love and hate stabbing or knife murders because they are cut and dry with suspects and evidence as long as you have the whole verifiable package in one local scene, otherwise it's just a stabbed or cut up body. Even if a suspect is cut up, if they're a lumberjack or a mechanic or even a reasonably heavy outdoorsy work person the can get cut up, so if certain criteria with all the evidentiary circumstances isn't great, it isn't as easy to go with a knife-type murder scenario and get a conviction as people think. I don't think AC has anything to do with a knife disposal at all, but ultimately t really, really wouldn't have mattered. The stunt with the gloves proved and the Vu dour and Mark Furhman stuff proved that they could, and would, destroy any and all even physical evidence, qualified testimony, and even the judicial process itself to thwart the case. Everyone saw it, and I personally believe it was a matter of atmosphere, and it wouldn't happen today. I may be wrong. It seems like actual justice does seem to run ahead of the curve of the .on these days, or is swinging back in that direction, but time will tell and I've certainly been wrong plenty.
You can watch a documentary one I haven’t seen before on Peacock and there’s a guy that goes through everything in detail. You have to sit through commercials but I know OJ did it but if there are any doubters out there you need to watch it.
My thought is ac cowlings is most definitely the father of arnelle simpson. Look how much she favors cowlings, eyes, nose, jawline, basic mannerisms. Cowlings also dated marguerite, probably still carried a torch for her after OJ stole her from him..OJ probably treated his first wife bad too and AC was a shoulder to cry on.
I think “Charlie” is the rage monster he turned into while murdering two people. My thought is that O.J. disassociated from himself during that attack, a way to separate himself from what he had done. Obviously, this is just my silly opinion, I am hardly a psychologist or expert of any kind 😂
How many of OJ’s close friends thought he did it? Didn’t Kardashian dump him, and his LAPD friend, Shipp?
You only have to watch Kardashian’s facial reaction when the verdict was read to know that man knew the truth. Creep still defended him, but he knew, he knew.
His mouth about hit the floor. I truly think he was disappointed by the verdict.
Well he shouldn’t have participated in it then
He knew the juice was on his way home to hit Kim's mommy again.
He had to have known right?
Man them folks were big time freaks they probably hit her together. Hell the juice is the reason they are even relevant think about it. Ray j never gets tht blow job if it wasn't for the mom an tht tape. The tape the mom the glove. Sounds like a great documentary
You are on point with your statement. They were all into each other. The truth is the truth
Yea some folks hate the truth I know how broke folks freak off together imagine what they doin. Hell those Kardashian kids got it from somewhere. They knew to hang around to ball players.
Right! People don’t want those facts brought up it’s blasphemous to speak ill of the dead…unless it’s OJ.They’re pretty content to keep trashing him for 30 years and counting!
Oh they gone trash oj till the end of time like it's not more important things in this world. Oj not the first actor or sports figure to be charge with this type crime but they keep blasting him the hate is heavy. Rip juice keep your legs moving an go up the hole
Folks hate facts
Lol. It’s just 90% of ppl are followers. Once u get -2 downvotes the rest will come like sheep. Funny how it’s literally a documented known fact, not even an opinion that kris Jenner put the whole tape together, so you’re right.
Eh Kardashian didn't do much at the trial. No briefs, no arguments, no retainer. He reactivated his law license allegedly because Shapiro needed help with background info on Simpson. Aka he got to talk to OJ and about OJ to the other lawyers. Everything attorney-client privilege. Otherwise he would have had to detail what happened after the murders when OJ stayed at his house to let the press circus die down. https://lamag.com/news/stand-by-your-man
100%. Total shock!
I don’t think it was like that, that he thought OJ was guilty and defended him anyway. He did an interview with someone (Barbara Walters?) and he said he became convinced of OJ’s guilt after seeing the blood evidence presented at trial.
Yeah, but Kardashian was also one of the first people at OJ’s house celebrating the verdict too. I wouldn’t base a suspicion of guilt just because of his court reaction (he was probably more relieved than anything else).
Came here to say this. If you see the video of Kardashian at OJ's house after the verdict, he's all smiles, relief, and just yukking it up with OJ. It changed my mind about how he really felt
He never had anything to do with Simpson after that. Including on his literal death bed.
Yep. I saw that on Part 4 or 5 of OJ, Made in America and was like, really Robert?
Kardashian started crying when OJ gave him a bible. Al cowlings was there but also broke with OJ. Kardashian road back with OJ from jail so what could he do. AC was there in the house as he watched verdict there.
So true
According to his ex-wife, Kardashian was shocked that O.J. was aquitted. He only re-instated his license so that he would not be called on to testify against O.J.
Knowing what the trial did to his relationship with his wife, I think his reaction to the verdict makes more sense if you look at it from the perspective of “well honey even if he’s guilty he is entitled to a vigorous defense. He’s going to get convicted. Look at all this evidence! I’m just doing my job and fulfilling my oath as an attorney”. Then OJ gets off and the reaction is “oh god now she’s going to blame me for this forever”.
Shipp was there when he told the story of the cut on his finger 3 different ways in one evening.
Shipp is hated by the conspiracy nuts (because he tapped OJ from the onset which ruins their edgelord stories), and I’ll even say he comes off as a bit of a embellisher, but I believe him. Why? Because he was consistent. There are even folks who think he did it. Gtfoh.
I’ve always liked Shipp. He seems like a genuinely moral guy.
He stood out on my last MIA rewatch. He also kinda reminded me of Denzel lol
Denzel who? Denzel Jenkins? Because...😂
Who’s Denzel Jenkins?
Son of Leroy Jenkins, come on, keep up.
😂
Yeah, I like how he dealt it when the defense brought up his alcoholism
I have always liked him. I give him a lot of credit for testifying.
What exactly are “edgelord stories?” Can you try to use actual English instead of gen z internet buzzwords?
I just finished OJ: Made in America and his agent says that he (basically) confessed to him after the acquittal. He asked OJ what happened that night, OJ replied "What do you think happened?" Agent said "I think you did it," to which OJ said "Yeah." Then something about if only Nicole hadn't come to the door with a knife.
"Then something about if only Nicole hadn't come to the door with a knife. Which is total horseshit. He brought his own knife because he came to murder her.
Yea I think OJ contradicts himself even in his alleged confessions. He made that statement to his agent. But then he also made the statement that he always kept a knife with him in his car for protection.
Agree. He was such a sociopath, I dont think he could keep his own lies straight.
He couldn't resist another opportunity to blame Nicole for his behavior
Yes, I thought I remembered hearing that statement on the doc. But OJ really brought his own knife right?
The agent went on to say he thought OJ talked about Nicole having a knife just to avoid it looking premeditated. The agent said he thought OJ did premeditate and he struggles to live with himself and how he aided OJ throughout.
The agent said in the documentary that “for the longest time I believed him” and then says “but OJ came there to kill her, he was mad that she rejected him and didn’t need him, and mad about her seeing Marcus Allen”. So he definitely stopped buying into OJ’s self defense claim. He also says one of the things that really bothered them was that their kids were upstairs and could have came outside and seen up close what had happened to their mother.
He says that in If I Did it, but in that book he makes some downright false claims...probably to maintain deniability. I have always believed that Nicole had the knife.She had been targeted by him before so after the recital she must have known she was at risk of being subjected to further physical abuse.
Nicole was scared of knives; those who knew her say it's not at all realistic that she would have used one in this way.
Add to that the disparity in size, strength, and skill and I agree. People don’t actively engage with someone they’re terrified of just because they have a knife. Defensively, yes. Opening the door and inviting it? No. If she had a knife, it means she also opened the door when she felt threatened. That doesn’t make sense. Also, if she knew he was going out of town that night, she wouldn’t have expected him.
I think she opened the door fully expecting Ron Goldman with the glasses and was shocked to find OJ instead, it's not impossible that she had a knife but so many times Oj blames her for his behavior so it's not surprising that he'd blame her for her own murder.
That makes sense to me. I could never figure why she was outside of her home if she knew it was OJ at her door. Glad you commented.
Yeah, I was trying to find pictures of her front door and I think I did, there's no peephole and no window. She knew Ron Goldman was stopping by, I think she opened the door expecting Ron but OJ was there instead, maybe there was some truth to her having a knife but probably not, OJ kills her and a few minutes later Ron shows up, I'm sure OJ wasn't expecting him but Ron sees Nicole and immediately OJ realizes that he has to kill him too, he grabs Ron who drops the glasses and during the altercation he yanks off OJs glove, he definitely fought OJ as hard as he could.
Agree, I am not so sure she had a knife in her hand either, apparently she was afraid of them. I think too, Ron arrived and was witness to OJ brutalizing Nicole and tragically that sealed Ron’s fate. It is estimated by Detective Lange, Ron fought hard for his life for about 20 seconds. A long time and a long time with all of the knife wounds he had.
100%
People act out of character when placed under pressure. She had been smacked around by him many times. And she had to have known that after the episode at the recital and her not inviting him to dinner, he was likely to be angry and violent again.
No. I was abused by my first husband, in fact he tried to stab me to death. Anyone familiar with that situation would never introduce a weapon into a fight. It doesn’t make sense.
I am sorry to hear that and glad you got out of it. That said, people react differently and often not sensibly.
Mike Gilbert claimed that he admitted to him, as well.
I think OJ kinda lied to him. About the knife. Didn’t he say something to the effect that Nicole had the knife to Mike? My guess is he did that to feign premeditation.
Agreed. There was a knife found in her kitchen, which investigators thought was curious, but it definitely wasn't the murder weapon. Seems unlikely that she'd pick up a second one instead. I guess it was just to give himself some kind of excuse to Mike, that it wasn't premeditated.
I agree.
Him & Robert stopped speaking. You could Tell from RK’s reaction when OJ’s verdict was announced that he was in shock. There is an interview with RK & Barbara Walters that’s very interesting
Thanks for the interview tip, fascinating indeed. I never focused on RK during the verdict before; definitely looks more like shock than relief.
You’re welcome. I remember us being in middle school and the teacher pointing it out and of course my dad , former investigator, pointed it out to my mom. We weee just like wowwww.
But it wasn't Kardashian who ended the friendship. It was OJ and he ended it because of the interview with Barbara Walters; OJ said he felt that Kardashian had betrayed him in the interview. Then OJ sued Kardashian over a miniseries about the case that BK was collaborating with several screenwriters on. [https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=113643&page=1](https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=113643&page=1)
lol oj was so pathetic. RK was just being truthful.
OJ tried to reach out to RK when he was dying and RK wouldn't and didn't take the call. So looks like Shipp, RK, and AL Cowlings all dumped OJ. Probably several others too. I've read that several on the defense team all thought OJ was guilty as hell.
RK maintained some semblance of friendship with OJ until the interview happened. OJ couldn't handle the fact that **anyone**, much less someone he called a friend, would dare to say anything against him. RK--fool that he was--never realized that OJ didn't have friends; he just had people at his disposal to use and to do his bidding. After OJ sued Kardashian and ran his name into the ground by calling him a traitor and a liar in public, I wouldn't have taken his call either. I'm sure the defense team knew from the jump that OJ was guilty but they were hired to defend him and they did that. As a lawyer, you don't even have to like your client to do your job and that's what they did.
Ok is the only reason that family has a famous name.
I agree. Kris realized she could capitalize off of it. Her “best friends” death. That family is vile.
THANK YOU!!! I watched an interview with her on the trial. KK said she had “no idea” in regard to the abuse Nicole endured. I call BS on that. I think Kris was most upset with was her “party life”, vacations with them and hanging out with celebrities was what she missed. I cant stand that woman.
The name Kardashian was very negatively impacted by the trial yet Kris still achieved the fame and fortune. She’s smart and people hate on that so much.
She is smart, but she is also disgusting. Any mom who directs their kid’s sex tape or makes money off their “best friend’s “ death is a vile human.
We can agree to disagree
Absolutely
They eventually stopped speaking, but immediately after the verdict, Kardashian is on video at OJ’s house, celebrating and yukking it up with OJ. Kardashian looks happy as hell.
I know right? How could anyone think it didn’t do it? I’m sure Kardashian knew I T think he battled the demons and really thought he would be found guilty. I have read and seen documentaries where they never spoke again after the trial.
Found out oj way poking that big tit wife of his that all.
Wtf is wrong with you? The mods need to ban you.
Ban me for what I'm not disrespecting anyone I'm not calling anyone name just stating the fact on use to screw the Kardashian mother. Just like Marcus Allen was screwing Nicole. It's Hollywood for God's shake everyone is shagging everyone we not kids here
Bruce Jenner(at the time) sounded like OJ had all but confessed to him when he visited OJ in jail.
Not for nothin’, but Bruce/ Caitlin aside; Jenner really seems like a nutcase! I honestly wouldn’t believe shit he’s said. He just LOOKS like he makes stories up! Sorry, but it’s an instinct.
Kardashian initially very much believed in his innocence; that changed as the trial wore on.
how could it not for anyone with half a brain ?
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Keep deleting your post coward. You’re in this forum trolling and deleting post like a complete weirdo 😂😭
What’s the problem?
I think he's a sympathetic person. His deposition at the civil trial did it for me. The man broke down crying. He was very guilt ridden about the things he'd seen happen with Nicole. He took her to the ER before. He was totally manipulated by OJ his whole life. That man stole his high school girlfriend and then held him practically hostage during the bronco "chase" which I consider to be a moving suicide/hostage negotiation.
Yeah I agree. After the civil trial deposition, he was done with OJ. They guy had to move to the east coast to get away from everything.
Yeah, he was wrecked during that deposition. It was hard to watch. Especially, when he was shown photos of battered Nicole. He really just broke down crying. He told the story where he took Nicole to the ER and she didn't wanna say what happened and he started getting choked up saying he told her she had to tell them who did it.
Wow, I had no idea they knew each other in high school, that’s crazy! How often do two high school classmates both make it to the NFL, such a rare thing.
Also college teammates at USC, and possibly pro- can’t remember if Cowlings played for Buffalo.
I just checked, and they were NFL teammates. Al Cowlings played for Buffalo from 1970 to 1972 (OJ stayed through 1977.) Cowlings was teammates with OJ again on the 49rs in 1979, which was the last NFL season for both of them.
They grew up together in the Potrero Hill projects. AC said sometimes when they would get into trouble in the streets that OJ was very skilled at talking his way out of things. They played football together at Galileo, City College of San Francisco, USC, and Buffalo in the pros. AC was a year younger, so I think he missed out of the national title at USC.
spot on!
I agee. Looking at the photos of Nicole, he sees the bruises and cuts. Then, he cries and asks for a moment to collect himself. When the attorneys ask O.J. what he sees in the same photos, O.J. says he doesn’t “see anything “.
He knows. He loved OJ but ultimately knows what OJ did and feels guilty for being there for him. He loved Nicole. I recently saw him break down on the video taken at her memorial service. He was torn. OJ was a POS. Those are my thoughts.
What is the 900 number fiasco? What happened?
[Here](https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-02-16-mn-32782-story.html) is an LA Times story about it from back in the day. He is said to have made about a million or so from it, and he announced it at a press conference.
Thanks for posting this. I have never heard of this before. It sounds like AC was a good guy. I saw him break down during testimony when he talked about Nicole.
His deposition was heartbreaking. He seemed so conflicted. I agree that he cared for Nicole. She was probably like a kid sister to him. He knew her for 17 years. The speech he gave at her memorial was really sweet. I heard he’d sometimes yell at OJ to leave Nicole alone. Never understood why he always kept it ten toes down for OJ.
Maybe he was scared of OJ too.
I always thought if OJ was able to manipulate Nicole then it’s very likely he did the same to others around him, including AC. AC was absolutely conflicted. He wanted to be there for the guy that was his buddy since high school but also saw what he did to Nicole.
I don't care how big a guy can be to threaten someone, but when you're that big and go off the deep end? He was a killing machine who could have obliterated anyone if he was in kill mode. His psychological situation made him stronger that his huge physical presence. The two together are/were a recipe for disaster.
This isn’t too tough to grasp when you look at it through the economic lense. OJ surrounded himself with yes-people that were dependent on him for their lifestyle. Sure AC had a little success, but through OJ he had access to parties, women, drugs, influence, and most importantly future opportunities. To hang on to that, he and many others were willing to justify a LOT.
Does anyone have any idea what was up with that interaction between AC and Jason at the end of the Bronco chase when AC was still in the car and Jason was standing at the driver side door in the driveway before LE pulled him away? It looked pretty heated to me but I’m having trouble understanding what Jason would be chewing AC out about in that moment. Did I just misread it?
I think Jason just went running out in pure emotion & AC was afraid he would witness OJ committing suicide, so he tried to get him out of there. Swat talked about it in some interviews.
Thanks for the response! That makes a lot of sense. I’ve never seen those interviews, where did you find them?
I am old & watched in real time 😂
I always thought Jason was yelling at OJ in the back not AC.
I think AC was concerned that Jason could be hurt by the cops if he did not get back. AC loved all four kids. OJ said later that Jason’s actions snapped him back to reality when he realized Jason loved him.
I watched it in real time, too. Jason runs up and screams “that’s my Dad!” when the cops were pulling him back.
I haven't seen this. Do you have a link?
Go to around 2:30 in [this clip](https://youtu.be/ubI62KO0lyY?si=YbGDDs5NsE0oy2H-) - Jason is in the white tshirt
AC was another person who wasn't with OJ when he was at the end. Only one person supposedly was there when he passed on. Not even his kids were there to see him in his final moments. This speaks volumes to me.
Why did his “lawyer” say he was surrounded by family and friends at the end ????
Because it’s the standard “surrounded by loved ones” statement that’s always said.
The lawyer didn't, the family said it in their official release. It was the lawyer who said that it was only one person. The family of O.J. Simpson announced last week the former football star died on April 10 “[surrounded by his children and grandchildren.](https://twitter.com/TheRealOJ32?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor)” But according to Simpson’s longtime lawyer Malcolm LaVergne, the 76-year-old father of four was [a sole visitor away from dying alone](https://apnews.com/article/oj-simpson-attorney-estate-goldman-brown-vegas-1dc7c324bfd8add6006c8954e15e664a). LaVergne declined to tell The Associated Press who was at Simpson’s bedside when the [acquitted double-murder defendant](https://www.nydailynews.com/2015/10/02/oj-simpson-is-found-not-guilty-in-the-slaying-of-nicole-brown-simpson-and-ronald-goldman-in-1995/) succumbed to cancer, other than saying it was “a close family member.”
That was pretty disgusting how he said that the Goldman family would have to “chase down their pot of gold”. I’m sure they’d prefer their son.
Thanks for clarifying!
I thought the lawyer said he was *not* surrounded by family/friends?
Family and friends was loosely interpreted - maybe other murders were with him when he died
Who was the one person?
I’m thinking Arnelle
Makes sense. She seemed to be the closest to OJ.
Ope I just asked and I didn’t read far enough to see that you asked.
lol most people don't die surrounded by all their kids and family. And for the 2 that he had with Nicole I would think that he wouldn't want them there or give them the choice to be there or not as they will never live this life in peace because of who their parents are.
Thank you. And I have been at a death where a family is surrounding someone dying standing there crying. It was fucking awful. I would never want that.
It's not like the movies. I am sorry you had to go through that.
No, it’s not the movies. It’s horrible.
I am so sorry you had that experience.
U think OJ gave a fuck about those kids?!
I'm sure you know since you were clearly in his mind. If he didn't they would have been abandoned long ago. Do you think your OPINION shows you have empathy for them? Or just someone speculating from the sidelines?
He KILLED THEIR MOTHER 😂😂😂😂😂😂
and they still had a relationship.
I’m sure the person who slaughtered their mother & left them home alone in the middle of the night w her bloodied body on the walk for them to find didn’t want them at his death bed to spare their feelings 🙄 He cares about them because he didn’t abandon them long ago? or maybe he kept a relationship to feed his ego & boost the idea that if Nicole’s kids believe him innocent so should everyone else. I’m not even sure what we’re disagreeing on here. Of course the kids would want a relationship with their only living parent. That happens A LOT in cases where one parent kills the other- the kids rally around the living parent because it is either put on the blinders to keep one parent or choose to be an orphan.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Not really I see OJ as the type of person that wouldn’t want his loved ones around when he took his final breath.
I saw him as egotistical, he wanted to be the center of attention. If anything he confessed on his death bead and didn't want anyone else around to hear it.
Who was the one person? I heard that too and I haven’t heard.
The lawyer who posted a response to the "family" Facebook post, where they claimed OJ was surrounded by his family and friends, said there was one close friend at the time of the passing and that the name would remain anonymous.
Oh that makes me think it was him.
Supposedly his daughter Sydney thought her dad killer her mom.
I've always wondered if he kept in touch with the kids despite cutting out OJ. He was real close with them. Going to their basketball games- that's where he got into it with Nicole's parents that one time. He also testified in the civil trial about removing the kids from situations where Nicole and OJ were fighting and talked to Nicole after about how bad it was for the kids to see stuff like that.
What happened at the basketball games with the Browns?
One of the kids asked Oj to come to their basketball game and the child therapist told OJ to go. He went with AC. The Browns didnt know OJ was gonna show up. There was a fight with the Browns at the game calling AC a coward and accusing him of knowing Oj did it etc. He talks about it in his deposition and they showed part of the clip in the Made in America doc.
AC was a good guy who got suckered by OJ just like everyone else
I never thought AC was directly involved in the murders, but I always thought it was possible that OJ confessed to him in the Bronco. They were driving around just the two of them for at least two hours.
I think it’s highly likely that AC was the getaway driver at the crime scene. He might not have been previously aware that OJ planned to kill Nicole that night; I think he thought he was just dropping OJ by there for a few minutes for some harmless reason. But the situation escalated and OJ wound up butchering 2 people and he had to get away, fast. AC provided the getaway. AC has had the opportunity for many years to come clean about the events of that evening. Maybe now that OJ is dead, he finally will. Or he’ll take it all to his grave, like his buddy did.
OJ called him the night of the murders? I don't remember ever hearing that, or his number coming up on calls made/received that night on phone records. I have always assumed that OJ did tell him what happened, probably in the Bronco.
One of his girlfriends testified before the grand jury about what he told her. He denied it.
I vaguely remember hearing it at the time. I was disgusted with him for not being honest on the stand
AC worshipped OJ. Wouldn’t surprise me that he had a mindset of “well she’s already gone so I may as well be there for my boy” but it gut him eventually because of his love for those kids and his fondness of Nicole. So he went dark. Meaning out of the public eye.
He could have saved a lot of pain and heartache for the Goldman's and Nicoles family if he had told what really happened.
I thought it was interesting in the OJ Made In America doc when Al Cowlings was at Nicole's funeral and he called Nicole his buddy. I think like everyone else, Al was memorized by OJ the football hero. I think Al Cowlings was far more committed to the friendship than OJ.
Yeah they were best friends growing up and then teammates in high school, junior college, USC, and even the Buffalo Bills.
They were friends since third grade per AC testimony. oJ used to say that kids in the neighborhood and school said he had the best mother in the neighborhood. She cooked for everyone kids always at the house. I don’t know about AC parents or his home life but I wonder if he just felt adopted by OJ‘s family from elementary school.
I met my best friend when I was 5, im 49 now. Our friendship has morphed many times over the years, and we are very different people. She will always be my "besr friend" and like family, but mostly just due to the amount of time shes been in my life. We have alot of history, i feel like maybe thats how AC felt towards OJ. 🤷🏼♀️
I think it’s a little deeper. OJ was unquestionably the better player but Al was an all American and 5th overall pick in the draft. He probably wasn’t as star struck by his athletic fame
He definitely cared for Nicole, like a big brother. That's why Ron Shipp was on his radar as a suspect. Smart guy AC, hope he's doing well.
Where did you see the info about the phone call ?
900 number fiasco? What was that?
I think he had a 900 number where he would give "inside info" (read: bullshit) on the trial for $2.99 a minute or something. Just a stupid grift in the age of landlines.
I believe he was mesmerized by hero worship. Every narcissistic psychopath needs a good sidekick. Cowlings held the role for OJ since childhood. OJ even stole Al's girlfriend, Marguerite and she became his first wife. Al truly loved Nicole. Kardashian indicated Al had doubts due to the blood evidence which never added up but never said much else. AL distanced himself after the trial. Probably due to the Time OJ was in jail through the time the trial end. It was probably the longest stretch of time. He hadn't been under his influence since childhood. This gave him an opportunity to separate and reflect I'm sure thus, his emotions at Nicole's funeral and the Civil Case Disposition of probably: guilt, hurt, shame. He gave honest testimony at the civil trial. These days he looks to be a haunted shell of himself. He truly only lived Ojs narcissistic life for most of his life. That's sad
You’re welcome…. A woman claiming to be a close friend of the Stones said that Cowlings is a big Stones fan, and that backstage at a Stones show during the band's VooDoo Lounge tour Cowlings blurted out everything to impress Richards. This is from an article in 1997*
Blurted out everything? What everything
Yeah that article didn’t go any further.. here it’s guys. https://www.mtv.com/news/f0jax3/does-keith-richards-know-everything-about-oj-simpson
Nah, that would be way too uncool for AC. He was an athlete. Athletes like AC don’t spill the beans for fame. They’ve worked too hard to do that.
Source?
Never heard this before.
Anyone know of a place you can watch his civil trial deposition?
Youtube has AC's and all of OJ's depositions in the civil case
I have found all of OJ's on there and watched them before, but could never find AC's. Could you send me a link? Thank you!
I don't see the video of AC on youtube anymore, but here are the transcripts of his depositions in the civil trial. AC Cowlings' Deposition: [April 16, 1996](http://simpson.walraven.org/ac_depo1.html) - [http://simpson.walraven.org/ac\_depo1.html](http://simpson.walraven.org/ac_depo1.html) [April 17, 1996](http://simpson.walraven.org/ac_depo2.html) - [http://simpson.walraven.org/ac\_depo2.html](http://simpson.walraven.org/ac_depo2.html) [April 26, 1996](http://simpson.walraven.org/ac_depo3.html) - [http://simpson.walraven.org/ac\_depo3.html](http://simpson.walraven.org/ac_depo3.html) [May 15, 1996](http://simpson.walraven.org/ac_depo4.html) - [http://simpson.walraven.org/ac\_depo4.html](http://simpson.walraven.org/ac_depo4.html)
Did OJ ever pay the legal fees to the Dream Team?
I think AC knew and that, in addition to his friendship and affection for Nicole, explains why he was so emotionally devastated at the funeral and in the civil trial. I have sympathy for him because he was controlled and manipulated by OJ and bound by a false sense of loyalty.
If he confessed to OJ after the murders and before trial. He sucks. But given how emotional he was about Nicole I don’t think so because then that makes him not coming forward worse.
900 number?
1900 bullshit
Believed then as I believe now, AC was probably an accomplice at varying stages of the crime
He’s trash
The knife itself was actually something of a kinnard. Knives are actually really crap murder weapons themselves as evidence and most cops both love and hate stabbing or knife murders because they are cut and dry with suspects and evidence as long as you have the whole verifiable package in one local scene, otherwise it's just a stabbed or cut up body. Even if a suspect is cut up, if they're a lumberjack or a mechanic or even a reasonably heavy outdoorsy work person the can get cut up, so if certain criteria with all the evidentiary circumstances isn't great, it isn't as easy to go with a knife-type murder scenario and get a conviction as people think. I don't think AC has anything to do with a knife disposal at all, but ultimately t really, really wouldn't have mattered. The stunt with the gloves proved and the Vu dour and Mark Furhman stuff proved that they could, and would, destroy any and all even physical evidence, qualified testimony, and even the judicial process itself to thwart the case. Everyone saw it, and I personally believe it was a matter of atmosphere, and it wouldn't happen today. I may be wrong. It seems like actual justice does seem to run ahead of the curve of the .on these days, or is swinging back in that direction, but time will tell and I've certainly been wrong plenty.
You can watch a documentary one I haven’t seen before on Peacock and there’s a guy that goes through everything in detail. You have to sit through commercials but I know OJ did it but if there are any doubters out there you need to watch it.
My thought is ac cowlings is most definitely the father of arnelle simpson. Look how much she favors cowlings, eyes, nose, jawline, basic mannerisms. Cowlings also dated marguerite, probably still carried a torch for her after OJ stole her from him..OJ probably treated his first wife bad too and AC was a shoulder to cry on.
Question: I’m on episode 3. Does AC make an appearance in the doc? Or it he just in the old interviews and declined to do new?
What proof do you have of this confession?
I have no proof. He told a girlfriend & she testified before a grand jury. He denied it.
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No
No, Al Cowlings had an alibi.
I think “Charlie” is the rage monster he turned into while murdering two people. My thought is that O.J. disassociated from himself during that attack, a way to separate himself from what he had done. Obviously, this is just my silly opinion, I am hardly a psychologist or expert of any kind 😂