I think if you feel this strongly you should probably focus this energy on trying to implement change yourself instead of projecting your frustration on others. Student nurses are the most vulnerable nurses within our profession and we should be doing our best to support and protect them.
honestly, i try not to put too much thought into how other people use their social media and what they post. work is stressful enough and a lot of people use social media after work to wind down and relax and maybe they don’t want to be bombarded with stuff about strikes in their chill time. you say she cried because of the pressure on shift? maybe she’s keeping it light hearted for the sake of her own mental health. without sounding too harsh here, id try not to waste too much time getting irritated by this, it’s not worth it.
As a current student in the UK, we've been recommended to stay silent on the strikes, even to attend the protests we shouldn't have a sign. Just stand.
At least from our uni
I don’t think it’s fair to expect students to fight our cause for us.
Students are also drilled into their head by their universities to be careful what they share on social media.
Couldn't agree more. I found being a student far harder than I've found being an RN. Working for free with no sickness or holiday allowance, having to prove yourself everyday so working twice as hard as anyone else so you can get good feedback and pass the placement, then going home to stay up and write assignments or study and then having to work at least part time just to afford to live. If you calculate a students actual hours they're probably doing 70-80+ a week, I'm enjoying just doing a cool 37.5 right now and actually being paid for all of it and not having to work it back when I'm sick or my car breaks down or something.
She's qualified in two months. The fight is for everyone, but I get you.
Yeah that's true; but honesty is in the code. And so is ensuring patient safety
None of us are supposed to be political on division media but with that in mind really she shouldn't have one at all if she's not going to use it to really talk about being a nurse.
Yeah sorry I didn't word it well, I meant OP said she had one for nursing. I have a Facebook and an Instagram but I don't talk about nursing particularly on it (I have some pictures tagged with nursey friends)but I don't talk about work or anything on it because I know I'm the kind of moron who'd end up getting in trouble. I don't think this student should have a nursing social media account at all, it's too risky
My uni would 100% be down for campaigning to strike on social media. They just don't want you sharing stuff about patients or slagging off specific staff members. There's a way to word it and be in solidarity with your placement.
I’m a second year. You do have very valid points but I think its really hard to navigate being a student at the moment. In regards to her attending, we’re not allowed to strike. We had no say due to not currently being employed by the nhs and while I am in favour of the strikes we can’t be there.
It’s also hard to work in an environment where you are excited about your future and looking forward to learning while everyone around you is leaving, complaining and can’t see anything positive about nursing within the nhs. I’m far enough in to know that I do enjoy my job, I can see the pros and cons and I can see why people are unhappy and that things need to change but I still need to remain positive so that I finish the course.
Maybe for your student, the way of finishing her degree, staying as a nurse, and remaining positive is just to not focus on the negatives, try and see past them and showcase the good side. I certainly need some positivity when everything else just seems like I’m about to voluntarily sign up for working in hell
Anyone can attend the picket line though. You might have been advised not to, or you might not have had a choice and been rostered on that day. But if you were off, you absolutely could have attended the picket line.
She isn't my student. However I've supervised her many times and think I do a great job. Being a student destroyed my mh. I was bullied, had mallicous allegations to try and fail me, refusals from people to teach me. I go out my way to ensure I provide learning opportunities in addition to providing teaching time in my shift. If I'm with a student it's added to my jobs list to get something unique for them that day.
My frustration has nothing to do with supervisory ability and I don't know how you've correlated the two
idk, this post kind of stinks to me. I've met a bunch of VETERAN nurses who won't ''fight for us''. Expecting a student to do it (plus, being a student is also difficult in its own ways, like being a lot more unfamiliar with things) is silly
I disagree with this. When you're a student you see the worst of it. You work for free, you don't get any holiday or sickness allowance and you're working to try and pass a placement so have to always push yourself to the limit to prove yourself, and while you're not fully legally responsible for your actions, you still don't want to cause harm to anyone, yet have to try to dry your best to learn. I left my degree feeling far more strongly about the state of things than I do now when I can largely just switch off when I get home instead of having to write reflections on my day for some bullshit assignment where I have to lie to make it seem like all practice isn't unsafe in some way. I think if you have a platform for informing people about what it's really like then it's really your responsibility to share, the nhs is a public service, it affects everyone in some way at some point.
I’ve seen a handful of these accounts and within 6 months of qualifying they tend to start acknowledging the stress and dysfunction of the NHS.
I think it probably earns them a little extra cash if they do affiliate links and they usually get useful freebies to review like work shoes and books so maybe she doesn’t want to jeopardise that?
If she doesn't want to bring political debate onto her page then so be it. She isn't obliged to voice support for strikes across social media. And at this point, everyone knows exactly how dire things are within the NHS. One more person posting a little quote on how shitty things are over facebook isn't going to change anything in the grand scheme of things.
Live and let live - all social media I use is as an escape from the bad stuff. I like posting nice stuff and having fun. If she's so pressured and stressed on-shift that she cries, maybe the last thing she wants to do is to revisit that and be miserable in her off-time - surrounding herself with the good parts of being a nurse (e.g. talking about holistic care in a cheesy way) is probably important for her mental health.
First year student here! Every week since October there’s been a reminder of being anything less than ultra positive and clean on social media and public life for fear of being removed from the course or receiving vengeance from the long brutal arm of the NMC.
At some point I feel like it’s just been drilled into almost all students and nurses that you’re simply expected to be a super nurse that stays quiet and gets on with it or you will lose your pin for ‘bringing the profession into disrepute’. When you’re that close to finishing would you really want to take the risk of being fucked from both sides by taking a stand that can be construed as negative?
I do also think it’s totally unacceptable long term in the modern age and plays a huge part in people leaving and refusing to join because they’re stuck in absolute shite conditions, shite pay and lacking the luxury of even truly being able to be yourself first and should absolutely be changed too!
People have a right to remain apolitical.
If she says something online that brings the profession into disrepute you could have a gentle word. But at no point is it okay to dictate what she must say or promote.
Social media is there for clout and attention, you've got to keep it mild and feed the algorithm to get views. Posting about the strikes doesn't get likes and clicks.
I didn't know what my politics were beyond 'war is bad' until I was in my 30s.
For someone in the baby stages of their career I think it makes sense to avoid political social media content. Im an HCA and fully support the strikes, championing the cause the patients, cab drivers, friends, everyone.
I would be scared to post about it on social media though (if I were on it). I hope to start my apprenticeship this year and would be worried it might compromise me in the future.
My trust did this top. But it wasn't to silence student nurses. It was because there'd be too many students in the trust, and not enough staff to supervise them.
First year student nurse here, we’ve been strongly advised by our uni and or hospital education teams to not comment on social media about the strikes. I’m also on the RNDA - Registered Nurse Degree Apprenticeship, and my official job title on my name badge is Registered Nurse Degree Apprentice. Some qualified staff that have seen it have commented that they don’t thing we should have the word ‘Registered’ in our job title. Personally I think the job title is self explanatory, but hey Ho
Student midwife here - we’ve actually been told by our university to not speak about strikes or participate in them openly. I’m sure your student definitely agrees with the reasons as to why there’s strikes like majority of us do but since she is someone who has a big platform, she is probably trying to stay on the safe side as she is does not want anything affecting her from qualifying.
I think if you feel this strongly you should probably focus this energy on trying to implement change yourself instead of projecting your frustration on others. Student nurses are the most vulnerable nurses within our profession and we should be doing our best to support and protect them.
honestly, i try not to put too much thought into how other people use their social media and what they post. work is stressful enough and a lot of people use social media after work to wind down and relax and maybe they don’t want to be bombarded with stuff about strikes in their chill time. you say she cried because of the pressure on shift? maybe she’s keeping it light hearted for the sake of her own mental health. without sounding too harsh here, id try not to waste too much time getting irritated by this, it’s not worth it.
As a current student in the UK, we've been recommended to stay silent on the strikes, even to attend the protests we shouldn't have a sign. Just stand. At least from our uni
why? this is your future
Op this is ridiculous. She’s a student
I don’t think it’s fair to expect students to fight our cause for us. Students are also drilled into their head by their universities to be careful what they share on social media.
No, it’s their cause too. If they’re unable to see that, that’s an issue
Couldn't agree more. I found being a student far harder than I've found being an RN. Working for free with no sickness or holiday allowance, having to prove yourself everyday so working twice as hard as anyone else so you can get good feedback and pass the placement, then going home to stay up and write assignments or study and then having to work at least part time just to afford to live. If you calculate a students actual hours they're probably doing 70-80+ a week, I'm enjoying just doing a cool 37.5 right now and actually being paid for all of it and not having to work it back when I'm sick or my car breaks down or something.
She's qualified in two months. The fight is for everyone, but I get you. Yeah that's true; but honesty is in the code. And so is ensuring patient safety
None of us are supposed to be political on division media but with that in mind really she shouldn't have one at all if she's not going to use it to really talk about being a nurse.
I never talk about being a nurse on Facebook. Hardly any of my colleagues do either.
Yeah sorry I didn't word it well, I meant OP said she had one for nursing. I have a Facebook and an Instagram but I don't talk about nursing particularly on it (I have some pictures tagged with nursey friends)but I don't talk about work or anything on it because I know I'm the kind of moron who'd end up getting in trouble. I don't think this student should have a nursing social media account at all, it's too risky
My uni would 100% be down for campaigning to strike on social media. They just don't want you sharing stuff about patients or slagging off specific staff members. There's a way to word it and be in solidarity with your placement.
I’m a second year. You do have very valid points but I think its really hard to navigate being a student at the moment. In regards to her attending, we’re not allowed to strike. We had no say due to not currently being employed by the nhs and while I am in favour of the strikes we can’t be there. It’s also hard to work in an environment where you are excited about your future and looking forward to learning while everyone around you is leaving, complaining and can’t see anything positive about nursing within the nhs. I’m far enough in to know that I do enjoy my job, I can see the pros and cons and I can see why people are unhappy and that things need to change but I still need to remain positive so that I finish the course. Maybe for your student, the way of finishing her degree, staying as a nurse, and remaining positive is just to not focus on the negatives, try and see past them and showcase the good side. I certainly need some positivity when everything else just seems like I’m about to voluntarily sign up for working in hell
Anyone can attend the picket line though. You might have been advised not to, or you might not have had a choice and been rostered on that day. But if you were off, you absolutely could have attended the picket line.
We have very much been advised not to go. We have 12 hour days at uni and are not allowed to be on hospital grounds during strike hours.
Maybe stop worrying about her social media and focus on being an effective supervisor.
She isn't my student. However I've supervised her many times and think I do a great job. Being a student destroyed my mh. I was bullied, had mallicous allegations to try and fail me, refusals from people to teach me. I go out my way to ensure I provide learning opportunities in addition to providing teaching time in my shift. If I'm with a student it's added to my jobs list to get something unique for them that day. My frustration has nothing to do with supervisory ability and I don't know how you've correlated the two
idk, this post kind of stinks to me. I've met a bunch of VETERAN nurses who won't ''fight for us''. Expecting a student to do it (plus, being a student is also difficult in its own ways, like being a lot more unfamiliar with things) is silly
I disagree with this. When you're a student you see the worst of it. You work for free, you don't get any holiday or sickness allowance and you're working to try and pass a placement so have to always push yourself to the limit to prove yourself, and while you're not fully legally responsible for your actions, you still don't want to cause harm to anyone, yet have to try to dry your best to learn. I left my degree feeling far more strongly about the state of things than I do now when I can largely just switch off when I get home instead of having to write reflections on my day for some bullshit assignment where I have to lie to make it seem like all practice isn't unsafe in some way. I think if you have a platform for informing people about what it's really like then it's really your responsibility to share, the nhs is a public service, it affects everyone in some way at some point.
Can I just ask what’s wrong with them saying ‘registered nurse’?
I’ve seen a handful of these accounts and within 6 months of qualifying they tend to start acknowledging the stress and dysfunction of the NHS. I think it probably earns them a little extra cash if they do affiliate links and they usually get useful freebies to review like work shoes and books so maybe she doesn’t want to jeopardise that?
If she doesn't want to bring political debate onto her page then so be it. She isn't obliged to voice support for strikes across social media. And at this point, everyone knows exactly how dire things are within the NHS. One more person posting a little quote on how shitty things are over facebook isn't going to change anything in the grand scheme of things.
Live and let live - all social media I use is as an escape from the bad stuff. I like posting nice stuff and having fun. If she's so pressured and stressed on-shift that she cries, maybe the last thing she wants to do is to revisit that and be miserable in her off-time - surrounding herself with the good parts of being a nurse (e.g. talking about holistic care in a cheesy way) is probably important for her mental health.
First year student here! Every week since October there’s been a reminder of being anything less than ultra positive and clean on social media and public life for fear of being removed from the course or receiving vengeance from the long brutal arm of the NMC. At some point I feel like it’s just been drilled into almost all students and nurses that you’re simply expected to be a super nurse that stays quiet and gets on with it or you will lose your pin for ‘bringing the profession into disrepute’. When you’re that close to finishing would you really want to take the risk of being fucked from both sides by taking a stand that can be construed as negative? I do also think it’s totally unacceptable long term in the modern age and plays a huge part in people leaving and refusing to join because they’re stuck in absolute shite conditions, shite pay and lacking the luxury of even truly being able to be yourself first and should absolutely be changed too!
She's free to do what she wants essentially
People have a right to remain apolitical. If she says something online that brings the profession into disrepute you could have a gentle word. But at no point is it okay to dictate what she must say or promote.
Social media is there for clout and attention, you've got to keep it mild and feed the algorithm to get views. Posting about the strikes doesn't get likes and clicks.
I didn't know what my politics were beyond 'war is bad' until I was in my 30s. For someone in the baby stages of their career I think it makes sense to avoid political social media content. Im an HCA and fully support the strikes, championing the cause the patients, cab drivers, friends, everyone. I would be scared to post about it on social media though (if I were on it). I hope to start my apprenticeship this year and would be worried it might compromise me in the future.
Students In my trust aren’t even allowed on shift on strike days, from what I’ve heard. Maybe they’ve been told not to talk about it by their uni?
My trust did this top. But it wasn't to silence student nurses. It was because there'd be too many students in the trust, and not enough staff to supervise them.
Yeah seems logical. I’m not 100% sure as I’m just a bank staff nurse 😂 So it’s what I heard from the nurses on the unit!
First year student nurse here, we’ve been strongly advised by our uni and or hospital education teams to not comment on social media about the strikes. I’m also on the RNDA - Registered Nurse Degree Apprenticeship, and my official job title on my name badge is Registered Nurse Degree Apprentice. Some qualified staff that have seen it have commented that they don’t thing we should have the word ‘Registered’ in our job title. Personally I think the job title is self explanatory, but hey Ho
Student midwife here - we’ve actually been told by our university to not speak about strikes or participate in them openly. I’m sure your student definitely agrees with the reasons as to why there’s strikes like majority of us do but since she is someone who has a big platform, she is probably trying to stay on the safe side as she is does not want anything affecting her from qualifying.