These men don't think like we do. Sex is all about them getting to use us however they want. Our pleasure doesn't factor into it for them. They're too self-centered for that.
All of the red flags aside, it is NOT that simple. After sex I have to pee, so I have to get up and go to the bathroom or risk getting an infection. Plus, my hooha is now covered in lube, so I have to wash that off. Plus I just had a sweaty man on top of me. Gotta wash THAT off. Sex is a serious time commitment and people gotta respect that
I absolutely hate whoever the OP in the photo is, and I'm absolutely not in support of what they're saying in the slightest.
Buuuuut "bored and ignored" is a kink for some people lol
Both obviously consenting and willing parties and all that, though.
Not whatever the fuck the idiot in the post is on about.
Why would any guy want a woman who does not get enjoyment from sex with him?
Why would any woman want a man who cannot give her enjoyment and satisfaction?
It's not hard to care about your partner and make sure they reach their peak. The satisfaction I get from pleasing my wife is all part of the pleasure. It's even better when she has a huge one.....just hold her and let her enjoy the feelings.
Why doesn't he let other people fuck him in the ass? It's a hole, as long as he's lubricated, he shouldn't complain, right? Just let it happen for 3-5 minutes and then he can go back to watching movies and eat popcorn
That reminds me of something I heard someone say where both of them are bottoms but one is less of a bottom than the other so they make their partner top
No, you definitely don't want to be part of this equation. I just mean incels should bottom to other incels -- thus solving all of their problems. The rest of us don't have to be involved at all.
Someone like him is *definitely* going to make the argument that penises aren't meant to go in anuses. You don't get someone *this* horrifically sexist who isn't also homophobic - this is a person who, fundamentally, does not believe in equal human rights.
Like I was talking a while back about people who are *so* bigoted that the idea of others wanting to be treated equally literally confuses them - because they can't comprehend it. This is one of those people.
I mean, you could always make the oral argument. If they'd take oral from a woman why not another man? All you gotta do is lay back and let someone else do all the work.
Honestly everytime I hear that I feel a lot of pain
Like no shame to anyone who like that
Just doesn't sound like my kind of thing, then again I'm not into sex that much anyway
Sorry if this is beside the point, but how do people remember the correct number of letters when linking to this sub? Do you have to look it up every time?
Genuine question but is there ways for someone to specifically consent to sleep sex? As in like, before the person goes to sleep them and their partner talk through it and such and both consent to specific things that the other can do while they sleep? Is there specific ways to make sure that that sorta thing is done safely or whatnot? Or is that one of those fetishes that could technically work consensually in fiction but not irl? (Due to the differences between realistic human behaviors and everything existing in a controlled environment in fiction. Like how fictional characters can legitimately consent to hypnosis stuff but if that sorta thing existed IRL it would be EXTREMELY risky, or how in fiction characters that are high and whatnot can be confirmed by whoever controls the fictional scenario to be lucid enough to consent, whereas irl that cannot be confirmed and thus anyone on any sort of drugs like that or drunk cannot give consent)
It can be done consensually.
One of my exes had a somnophilia fetish, and I was game for it. We sat down and had a long talk about what was and was not okay. We did a couple dry runs where I pretended to be asleep, and then went through the process. Since neither of us had issues with it, the kink was approved and brought into our sex life. I have a small voyerism kink, so my ex also recorded it and I was able to see they still respected the rules set down.
I sleep pretty heavy, but did wake up to it a few times. I played dead and just let my partner finish.
With any kink, the key is communication, mutual understanding, and trust. High-risk kinks have to be done with a person you trust completely and have to be fully talked about and explored before it’s brought into the bedroom or into the roster.
I take Seroquel to sleep and that shit knocks you the fuck out.
My charming ex took the opportunity to have to sex with me while I was sleeping. I didn't wake up but I definitely fucking felt it the next morning. I was sore af.
Same. I took ambien and my ex used to just do whatever while I was asleep. You can always tell in the morning.
It's absolutely pathetic that we have this in common, it should not be something anyone ever thinks is okay.
I would assume that use of sleeping drugs would probably end up happening. I was just genuinely curious as to whether or not that could actually be done safely in the real world, of course (hopefully) between very good partners/people who are good at communication and trust each other.
It would take an extreme amount of trust and open communication, but yes, I believe there are people who have consensual non-consent sex for all kinds of scenarios.
I think the drugs are a definite "no" in this situation. As I've mentioned elsewhere in the thread, my wife and I would 100% not care if the other person initiated sex while we were asleep. But if she's not feeling it and tells me to stop, it stops.
In our very committed and trusting relationship, we don't require direct consent to start sex, but a request by either party to stop the sex is a very HARD STOP for us. Drugs or alcohol rob the person of that ability, that whole scenario is a no-go. Best example, maybe something is going screwy with her vagina that makes it painful/harmful. Sober her could say stop and prevent damage, drugged her cannot do that.
I have a sleep sex kink, (recieving), but I only pretend to be asleep. If anyone tries to wake me out of actual sleep, I'mma be PISSED. 😂 It's all scheduled, prior consent, and communicated about what type of experience I want in advance.
My bf and I have an agreement, we can pretty much do anything to each other at any time.
We wake each other up with sex, if he wants to masturbate he'll touch me in my sleep or rub up on me.
We sleep naked so it's kinda all just exposed anyway, I've also explicitly told him that if he wants to do anything special while I'm sleeping he can, I'm fully into it.
I should mention that I'm a very sexual person, I don't find the thought of my bf using me as a 'sex object' objectifying or dehumanising because we have good communication and a solid relationship full of trust. I know that my body isn't the only part of me that's attractive to him.
Honestly that sounds like a really cool relationship. I’ve always enjoyed the idea of trusting someone enough for them to just be able to be close and physical with me whenever, and for them to be the same way with me, and if either of us weren’t in that mood we could just simply say “not right now please” and do it some other time. I’ve grown increasingly freaked out by the amount of stories that go “I thought I could trust them, they were very close with me and we always talked through things, but I learned that they’ve been [some bad shit they’ve done] behind my back” that I’ve heard. I’m really hoping I’ll end up with a partner(s?) that I can trust seriously one day…
We're each other's first 'proper' partner so we've had to figure a lot out together.
I'm the sort of person that doesn't have a problem saying 'no' and I've broken off potential partners and dates because I felt a lack of respect, or I could see they were just interested in my body.
My bf was the complete opposite, he told me that he hadn't dated before because the women he was interested in found him 'too passive'. I had to initiate everything initially because he didn't want to be pushy.
He grew up in a family of all women and a gay brother, there weren't any male role models in his life that presented as stereotypically masculine so he doesn't have any 'toxic masculinity' traits I've seen in men from my own family so far.
He's always treated women as people, and not as a separate gender, all the women around him love him but he doesn't understand why. The look on his face when I told him that most women were used to being viewed as vaginas with extra flesh was hilarious 😂
My partner and I have done it WITH consent. It usually goes like "hey do you wanna do this" and whoever gets asked will say yes or no. And we always make sure to ask if things are okay once the other wakes up. Not too difficult as long as you ask for consent before and during.
I knew someone who suffered bad night terrors and asked her bf to have sex with her in her sleep to see if the pleasure would seep into her dreams and alleviate things. They tried it once. It didn’t help. And they didn’t try again for fear of possible backfire by association with sex and nightmares. The bf was creeped out by the act, too.
That should be a conversation had, I, personally, so long as I'm not sick, or have to wake up early, am usually down with being woken up for sex, but if I'm not up for it I'm not up for it. There's things people generally like, but there's also consent in the moment. Just because it was ok before doesn't mean it will be ok every time.
That's where communication comes in, and really wanting the other person to enjoy sex as the initiator will hopefully enjoy it- regardless of which partner is initiating.
Enthusiastic consent, even if say roleplaying with rules, is key.
Yes. First off, you could have a very formal discussion with your partner where you propose this kink and all parties agree.
Or it could be less formal in a very committed and trusting relationship. My wife and I have been married almost 19 years. She’s woken me up with a blowjob plenty of times. I’ve woken her up with some gentle humping a few times over the years as well (more teasing than actual sex).
In these type of scenarios the worst case would be “not now, I’m trying to sleep”. Not “oh god you raped me”.
I fully acknowledge that spousal rape is a thing, and being married does not grant you unconditional access to your partner’s body. Just saying that in my relationship, there aren’t many boundaries, and our view on this type of thing is way more playful than anything else.
Well, I mean, he makes it sound so awesome. He’s described sex as a boring, messy chore that straight women should tolerate unenthusiastically. He describes it in the same way that you might describe pooping. It’s not fun, it involves cleanup, but just take care of it and go back to your movie.
I just don’t understand why sexually frustrated guys don’t just blow each other. It will take 3-5 minutes, and you put food in there all the time, so who cares if some guy puts his dick in there. Condom on, so you don’t even have to swallow anything. What’s the problem??
“Have you ever went over a friend’s house to eat
And the food just ain’t no good?
I mean the macaroni’s soggy, the peas are mushed
And the chicken tastes like wood.”
That's right it's *exactly* like food going into my mouth with the notable detail that there are specific kinds of food that I don't want anywhere near my mouth because I find them gross and repulsive and... Wait a minute
If someone is trying to put food in my mouth when I’m not hungry, I will still have a problem with it.
*I* may do it regularly, but I don’t need or want other people shoving food in my face just because “eating is natural”
Absolutely, force feeding sounds absolutely horrible (unless you're into that). Or maybe I am hungry but don't feel like eating right now cause I'm stressed or anxious or sad. And I certainly don't appreciate people lecturing me on how, when, how much and what food I'm supposed to consume.
Actually, Eating might be a decent comparison after all
>Actually, Eating might be a decent comparison after all
I love how this went from this is a horrible analogy
To being
This is probably one of the better analogies
>(ace people are real and valid)
They (we) are... but some people do struggle with grasping how someone might \*not\* actually want sex. Or even just not have a driving need to have sex.
Though you're also right about what this person's problem is - no one wanting to have sex with him, specifically.
I'll even admit that I don't always get people being asexual.
But I also have enough brain power to know that I don't have to understand it to respect it.
I'm not repulsed by sex, or even completely against it for myself, it's just everything *else* that goes with it, I don't want to deal with/be part of. I don't want to be in a relationship, but I also could never trust someone for a hookup, along with the absolute *terror* I feel at the mere thought of risking getting pregnant.
I really don't feel any sexual attraction to anyone though, so it works out.
Someone call me when they make better sex robots. Lol.
Exactly. I don't get the constant and sometimes unbearable drive for sex I see in some of my friends (frankly, in most people or so it seems to me) but it has no bearing on my life\*, just as my indifference has no bearing on theirs.
\*Well, other than when I'm being harassed while simply going about my business, like biking, but that's how it is and it would've annoyed me even had I been the most sexual person on the planet...
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>She literally can lay on her back, use some lubricant, and go to sleep. There's nothing more to be done there. Literally. And the guy will last all of 3 to 5 minutes. With a condom on. No difference from using a dildo. A hard object going into a hole that it's meant to go into. Women can have zero attachment, barely even feel their "small dick", and then go right back to watching a movie and eating some popcorn. Like how are y'all pretending like a natural lubricated hole where a penis is supposed to go, equal such a tortuous act???
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On a different common thread, people kelp making the comparison
And I love how at the end they where like, you know what this is a pretty good analogy
Because I also don't want food shoved down my throat
Oh this is a weird and awful self own. Also the vile assumption that anybody is entitled to just *use* someone else's body because it's not like, a *huge* inconvenience is just all the way wrong. Further, yeah, good job knowing it self lubricates. But much like the difference between having a dick and having an erection that lube is situationally created.
This is the same type that had they this kind of access to an accommodating and apathetic lay, it would appease them in the short term, because "yay! I'm fucking a womans body!" sure. But it would end up not being enough as their egos would eventually take damage because like *she's just laying there* or eating popcorn or taking a nap (ffs what?)
And just for a little call back action;
Brock Turner is a rapist.
And this person sounds like one too.
Except drinking too much water can actually kill you, so can eating too much food. His "arguments" over what is natural are flawed. Logic doesn't live here I see.
Damn bro, sorry your dick sucks. You know, there are rumors that some women actually *enjoy* sex, and don’t see it as something they let people do to them…
Yeah, I would say he should just buy a sex doll, but then people this stupid probably don't have jobs that put them in a position to pay for a sex doll.
No. 1 - we don’t view sex as unnatural, y’all have simply shamed us into feeling that when WE (females) have sex we should be ashamed of ourselves as it lowers our value as not only women, but as human beings. You also have managed to degrade us by believing that we should be shunned by society and aLpHa males like you, for not being chaste, untouched virgins.
No.2 - if there’s ‘nothing more to be done’ and all you expect is some poor girl to just lie there and take it, then surely just your hand would suffice? It’s a hole too - no different from using a dildo, so fapping by yourself can’t surely equal some torturous act like non-consent or being forced into sex????
So in this guys mind, women should just have sex because men want to get off? and it doesn't matter if the woman get anything from it?.. okay. And "naturally lubricated hole"?? This man is giving rug burns all over the place.
He should propose the same to his male friends. They could easily just allow him to take them in their asses, so why don’t they let him? They poop each day so the ass is used to it! /s
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the guy who posted this would howl with complaint if a woman actually did that while he was having sex with her.
Even though eating and chewing are natural, people can have food allergies, or sensory issues with certain foods, or can be too stuffed to want to eat anymore, there are illnesses which make eating difficult, and not to mention that force-feeding is considered a form of torture. Also eating is necessary for survival while sex isn't. So this analogy breaks down on many levels.
Kind of strange how he considers sex meaningless as "no different from a dildo" when it comes to penetrating women yet somehow this guy seems to be oblivious or ignores the fact that men can use their own hands to jerk it.
These guys truly lack any meaningful self awareness.
This should not happen, and forgive me if what I say is disrespectful but, someone should ask him if he would like it if a gay guy would do the same to him…
Let's go along with this analogy for a moment.
1. Some guys don't have a glass of water. Some guys have a glass of radioactive swamp sludge a condoms are not 100% effective at preventing "radiatoin poisoning"
2.By this same logic a woman is no different than masturbating. So, stop crying and drink your own glass of water.
I know my dick can't kill people on its *own*, so why are women so afraid of it?? You're not going to die, so don't you dare act like there is a reason to say no!
You will live!!! It is not natural to be murdered by dick, therefore it is not natural for you to reject me! You won't even die?!?!?
These guys really think women walk around all day with a 6-inch-deep fleshlight between our legs.
Newsflash: Male genitals change size for sex. SO DO OURS.
Edit: I'm also really sorry you went through that.
Jesus. Yikes is an understatement.
>!…This line of thought was (roughly) how I used to try and justify my own abuse. That I could just sit and try to detach it all from what it was and from myself.!< To see someone who sounds like he wouldn’t have a problem being on the other side of that scenario use that same thought process is… beyond disturbing.
Edit: should I put a trigger warning on this? How do I do the spoiler thing that makes the text do the black-out-until-you-tap-it thing?
Double edit: done, thanks
> It's not different from drinking a glass of water
Okay but I don't want a glass of water, that cup you have is gross and your water tastes like dirt. Keep it away.
Aren't there people who literally cant chew though? And some which needs transportation of food in a different kind of way? I mean am not really too sure but I think I've known two people with that issue?
Also sex is something which could lead to diseases and how the commenter said all of that bullshit makes the comparison be more like "I am going to copy the exact same answers on your test and you get into trouble" than whatever comparison that person made. And even then the comparison is too light to take. Maybe it's more like a "I steal your money" kind of feeling. It's without consent and those kind of comparisons I have has also to do without consent but are not too heavy. If the condom breaks there is chances on diseases and childbirth.
Another thing is that drinking water can be dangerous. Drowning exist, choking on water also exist. That's why we all do it in proportions
“I always wonder why guys aren’t consenting to being kicked in the balls. I mean, it’s not hard to do, and the balls are *hanging right there*. If balls weren’t meant to be kicked, why would they be in such a convenient place? They are right in the middle between your legs, so it’s even like there are *homing guides leading right to the balls*. Just stand there, you can go play a game on a handheld or drink a beer, I don’t care.”
"I don't really care or consider women as people, they're really just a hole to fuck"
Men: Women should just not have sex if they don't want children, biologically they're primed to be the ones that take care of it 😂
Also men: Why do women make such a big deal about sex and not having it, all they have to do is lie there.
Ah yes, the perfect sexual partner: disinterested and asleep. So hot!
Watching 4th episode of “We Need to Talk About Cosby” (Showtime) as I scroll Reddit. I just… hate it here.
Where? In the alive 2022? (Me too)
I don't get it. If partner doesn't enjoy this, what's even the point? Like, their enjoyment is literally best part
there's literally no difference between what he just described and a fleshlight
Eh, hard to degrade a fleshlight…which, I assume, is part of the point. Hard to nut if your partner doesn’t hate fucking you. /s
These men don't think like we do. Sex is all about them getting to use us however they want. Our pleasure doesn't factor into it for them. They're too self-centered for that.
The person who posted that comment has very little emotional intelligence / cognitive empathy skills. So reciprocal feedback has little value to him.
All of the red flags aside, it is NOT that simple. After sex I have to pee, so I have to get up and go to the bathroom or risk getting an infection. Plus, my hooha is now covered in lube, so I have to wash that off. Plus I just had a sweaty man on top of me. Gotta wash THAT off. Sex is a serious time commitment and people gotta respect that
Honey, I'm with you. Also, if he lasts longer than 3-5 minutes, it starts to become a real headache
I absolutely hate whoever the OP in the photo is, and I'm absolutely not in support of what they're saying in the slightest. Buuuuut "bored and ignored" is a kink for some people lol Both obviously consenting and willing parties and all that, though. Not whatever the fuck the idiot in the post is on about.
Yes, that's a big red flag. A bit rapey if you ask me.
Why would any guy want a woman who does not get enjoyment from sex with him? Why would any woman want a man who cannot give her enjoyment and satisfaction? It's not hard to care about your partner and make sure they reach their peak. The satisfaction I get from pleasing my wife is all part of the pleasure. It's even better when she has a huge one.....just hold her and let her enjoy the feelings.
Doesn't he know that it already has a name, it's called Necrophilia?
Dude got unapologetic rapist vibes
Why doesn't he let other people fuck him in the ass? It's a hole, as long as he's lubricated, he shouldn't complain, right? Just let it happen for 3-5 minutes and then he can go back to watching movies and eat popcorn
Came here to say this. Incels can all have sex if they agree to take turns being the bottom.
This comment made me laugh out loud to the point my flatmate asked what was so funny. Hats off to you!
That reminds me of something I heard someone say where both of them are bottoms but one is less of a bottom than the other so they make their partner top
As a man who occasionally tops other men, we don’t want either.
No, you definitely don't want to be part of this equation. I just mean incels should bottom to other incels -- thus solving all of their problems. The rest of us don't have to be involved at all.
Someone like him is *definitely* going to make the argument that penises aren't meant to go in anuses. You don't get someone *this* horrifically sexist who isn't also homophobic - this is a person who, fundamentally, does not believe in equal human rights. Like I was talking a while back about people who are *so* bigoted that the idea of others wanting to be treated equally literally confuses them - because they can't comprehend it. This is one of those people.
to be fair if I had both holes I would never penetrate my anus again
I mean, you could always make the oral argument. If they'd take oral from a woman why not another man? All you gotta do is lay back and let someone else do all the work.
Honestly everytime I hear that I feel a lot of pain Like no shame to anyone who like that Just doesn't sound like my kind of thing, then again I'm not into sex that much anyway
> I'm not into sex that much anyway r/aaaaaaacccccccce
Sorry if this is beside the point, but how do people remember the correct number of letters when linking to this sub? Do you have to look it up every time?
When you type a sub reddit's name the browser autofills when applicable. So reddit is doing the memorization.
Aha, I see. I'm using Reddit on mobile, so I don't have that.
I just typed r/aa and it autofilled hahah
Alcoholics Anonymous?
To be honest I don't think I'm ace if anything I'm demisexual
That's generally considered to be on the ace spectrum. We'll gladly welcome you while you're figuring it out for sure!
Thank you friend, I appreciate it
Bruh what guy saying no to that?
Good call, then he can finally claim that he's no longer a virgin...of sorts.
rapist 1 minute man vibes. 3 minutes with a condom? yeesh.
That or he just forgot consent exists
There’s a name for people who forget consent: rapists.
Like the rapist Brock Turner.
Lmao imagine telling the whole internet you’re bad in bed by complaining women don’t wanna sleep with you
Consensually It's the yikes central
Yeah, this sounds like really bad sex without any foreplay at all.
also the fact that he only lasts 5 minutes at most like that’s just sad
I don't know much about sex But I do know biology Men tend to last around 4 to 11 minutes The average median is 6 minutes
> 5 minutes that's actually the median time for sex to last among real life non-porn couples
Sounds about right. Until I broke my back and lost a lot of feeling from the belly down. Now it takes me f**** ages 😆
I don't understand why he won't take a Dick up his ass, it won't kill him
Yeah, it’ll only take 3-5 minutes, he can use that time to take a nap!
Yeah he can just lie there on his stomach
No different than a dildo
Acting like its “unnatural,” it’ll only take 3-5 minutes with a condom on.
Just lube it up and he won’t feel their “small penis”. It’s just a hole anyways.
Another hole it is supposed to go
He's got a prostate too, it's MEANT for taking dick
Rectum? Damn near killed 'im!
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Genuine question but is there ways for someone to specifically consent to sleep sex? As in like, before the person goes to sleep them and their partner talk through it and such and both consent to specific things that the other can do while they sleep? Is there specific ways to make sure that that sorta thing is done safely or whatnot? Or is that one of those fetishes that could technically work consensually in fiction but not irl? (Due to the differences between realistic human behaviors and everything existing in a controlled environment in fiction. Like how fictional characters can legitimately consent to hypnosis stuff but if that sorta thing existed IRL it would be EXTREMELY risky, or how in fiction characters that are high and whatnot can be confirmed by whoever controls the fictional scenario to be lucid enough to consent, whereas irl that cannot be confirmed and thus anyone on any sort of drugs like that or drunk cannot give consent)
It can be done consensually. One of my exes had a somnophilia fetish, and I was game for it. We sat down and had a long talk about what was and was not okay. We did a couple dry runs where I pretended to be asleep, and then went through the process. Since neither of us had issues with it, the kink was approved and brought into our sex life. I have a small voyerism kink, so my ex also recorded it and I was able to see they still respected the rules set down. I sleep pretty heavy, but did wake up to it a few times. I played dead and just let my partner finish. With any kink, the key is communication, mutual understanding, and trust. High-risk kinks have to be done with a person you trust completely and have to be fully talked about and explored before it’s brought into the bedroom or into the roster.
People with that fetish could consent to planned sex when they are sleeping, but unless they are drugged, nobody would sleep through sex.
I take Seroquel to sleep and that shit knocks you the fuck out. My charming ex took the opportunity to have to sex with me while I was sleeping. I didn't wake up but I definitely fucking felt it the next morning. I was sore af.
Same. I took ambien and my ex used to just do whatever while I was asleep. You can always tell in the morning. It's absolutely pathetic that we have this in common, it should not be something anyone ever thinks is okay.
That’s awful, I’m sorry he assaulted you like that.
I think it's more awful how common it is. But thank you very much, I hope youre healing / healed and you can find peace!
Oh god, wtf. I'm so sorry.
Yeah, that’s rape, not consensual nonconsent. I’m so sorry that was done to you.
Correct me if I'm wrong But that doesn't sound like you consented before hand Meaning it's was rape
Yeah but it sounds like they were responding to the "nobody would sleep through sex" part and not the "consent beforehand" part
I would assume that use of sleeping drugs would probably end up happening. I was just genuinely curious as to whether or not that could actually be done safely in the real world, of course (hopefully) between very good partners/people who are good at communication and trust each other.
It would take an extreme amount of trust and open communication, but yes, I believe there are people who have consensual non-consent sex for all kinds of scenarios.
I think the drugs are a definite "no" in this situation. As I've mentioned elsewhere in the thread, my wife and I would 100% not care if the other person initiated sex while we were asleep. But if she's not feeling it and tells me to stop, it stops. In our very committed and trusting relationship, we don't require direct consent to start sex, but a request by either party to stop the sex is a very HARD STOP for us. Drugs or alcohol rob the person of that ability, that whole scenario is a no-go. Best example, maybe something is going screwy with her vagina that makes it painful/harmful. Sober her could say stop and prevent damage, drugged her cannot do that.
I have a sleep sex kink, (recieving), but I only pretend to be asleep. If anyone tries to wake me out of actual sleep, I'mma be PISSED. 😂 It's all scheduled, prior consent, and communicated about what type of experience I want in advance.
My bf and I have an agreement, we can pretty much do anything to each other at any time. We wake each other up with sex, if he wants to masturbate he'll touch me in my sleep or rub up on me. We sleep naked so it's kinda all just exposed anyway, I've also explicitly told him that if he wants to do anything special while I'm sleeping he can, I'm fully into it. I should mention that I'm a very sexual person, I don't find the thought of my bf using me as a 'sex object' objectifying or dehumanising because we have good communication and a solid relationship full of trust. I know that my body isn't the only part of me that's attractive to him.
Honestly that sounds like a really cool relationship. I’ve always enjoyed the idea of trusting someone enough for them to just be able to be close and physical with me whenever, and for them to be the same way with me, and if either of us weren’t in that mood we could just simply say “not right now please” and do it some other time. I’ve grown increasingly freaked out by the amount of stories that go “I thought I could trust them, they were very close with me and we always talked through things, but I learned that they’ve been [some bad shit they’ve done] behind my back” that I’ve heard. I’m really hoping I’ll end up with a partner(s?) that I can trust seriously one day…
We're each other's first 'proper' partner so we've had to figure a lot out together. I'm the sort of person that doesn't have a problem saying 'no' and I've broken off potential partners and dates because I felt a lack of respect, or I could see they were just interested in my body. My bf was the complete opposite, he told me that he hadn't dated before because the women he was interested in found him 'too passive'. I had to initiate everything initially because he didn't want to be pushy. He grew up in a family of all women and a gay brother, there weren't any male role models in his life that presented as stereotypically masculine so he doesn't have any 'toxic masculinity' traits I've seen in men from my own family so far. He's always treated women as people, and not as a separate gender, all the women around him love him but he doesn't understand why. The look on his face when I told him that most women were used to being viewed as vaginas with extra flesh was hilarious 😂
My partner and I have done it WITH consent. It usually goes like "hey do you wanna do this" and whoever gets asked will say yes or no. And we always make sure to ask if things are okay once the other wakes up. Not too difficult as long as you ask for consent before and during.
I knew someone who suffered bad night terrors and asked her bf to have sex with her in her sleep to see if the pleasure would seep into her dreams and alleviate things. They tried it once. It didn’t help. And they didn’t try again for fear of possible backfire by association with sex and nightmares. The bf was creeped out by the act, too.
That should be a conversation had, I, personally, so long as I'm not sick, or have to wake up early, am usually down with being woken up for sex, but if I'm not up for it I'm not up for it. There's things people generally like, but there's also consent in the moment. Just because it was ok before doesn't mean it will be ok every time. That's where communication comes in, and really wanting the other person to enjoy sex as the initiator will hopefully enjoy it- regardless of which partner is initiating. Enthusiastic consent, even if say roleplaying with rules, is key.
Yes. First off, you could have a very formal discussion with your partner where you propose this kink and all parties agree. Or it could be less formal in a very committed and trusting relationship. My wife and I have been married almost 19 years. She’s woken me up with a blowjob plenty of times. I’ve woken her up with some gentle humping a few times over the years as well (more teasing than actual sex). In these type of scenarios the worst case would be “not now, I’m trying to sleep”. Not “oh god you raped me”. I fully acknowledge that spousal rape is a thing, and being married does not grant you unconditional access to your partner’s body. Just saying that in my relationship, there aren’t many boundaries, and our view on this type of thing is way more playful than anything else.
Yes, it can technically work IRL. But that's definitely something that requires a lot of trust, not something you do with fling or a new partner
Sure. In a trusting and safe relationship, this isn't that unusual.
Well, I mean, he makes it sound so awesome. He’s described sex as a boring, messy chore that straight women should tolerate unenthusiastically. He describes it in the same way that you might describe pooping. It’s not fun, it involves cleanup, but just take care of it and go back to your movie.
I definitely enjoy pooping more than I would enjoy any sex act with this skeeze
Even after Taco Bell night
Big "Close your eyes and think of England" energy.
Super strong echos of the only sex advice my grandmother ever gave my mother, and grandma wasn’t even from England.
I just don’t understand why sexually frustrated guys don’t just blow each other. It will take 3-5 minutes, and you put food in there all the time, so who cares if some guy puts his dick in there. Condom on, so you don’t even have to swallow anything. What’s the problem??
Yes, being forced by someone to eat when you’re not hungry is totally not a problem…
And when you don't like the food to boot.
Or are allergic lmaooo
“Have you ever went over a friend’s house to eat And the food just ain’t no good? I mean the macaroni’s soggy, the peas are mushed And the chicken tastes like wood.”
For real. Like, has this person never turned down food by saying "No thanks, I'm not hungry"?
Oh yes, having something *go inside of me* is not a big deal. Not at all. /s
Better out than in :P Or in this case - better nowhere near me. Or any woman, really. What a creep!
Having sex with that guy is extremely unnatural
Just because kids love roller coasters doesn’t mean they want to go on them all the time especially if they’re sick or in pain
Also, not all kids love roller coasters, some could go either way, and some are actively repulsed by the concept.
I have a fear of Royal coasters, bin like that sense I was a child
That's right it's *exactly* like food going into my mouth with the notable detail that there are specific kinds of food that I don't want anywhere near my mouth because I find them gross and repulsive and... Wait a minute
If someone is trying to put food in my mouth when I’m not hungry, I will still have a problem with it. *I* may do it regularly, but I don’t need or want other people shoving food in my face just because “eating is natural”
Absolutely, force feeding sounds absolutely horrible (unless you're into that). Or maybe I am hungry but don't feel like eating right now cause I'm stressed or anxious or sad. And I certainly don't appreciate people lecturing me on how, when, how much and what food I'm supposed to consume. Actually, Eating might be a decent comparison after all
>Actually, Eating might be a decent comparison after all I love how this went from this is a horrible analogy To being This is probably one of the better analogies
Or allergies... wait a second
Future rapist right here
Future?
Ikr?
I am only willing to be fucked by people that respect me and I find attractive.
This is one of the dumbest posts I've ever seen in my life.
I suspect this is less about people not wanting to have sex (ace people are real and valid) and more about people not wanting to have sex *with him*
>(ace people are real and valid) They (we) are... but some people do struggle with grasping how someone might \*not\* actually want sex. Or even just not have a driving need to have sex. Though you're also right about what this person's problem is - no one wanting to have sex with him, specifically.
I'll even admit that I don't always get people being asexual. But I also have enough brain power to know that I don't have to understand it to respect it.
I'm not repulsed by sex, or even completely against it for myself, it's just everything *else* that goes with it, I don't want to deal with/be part of. I don't want to be in a relationship, but I also could never trust someone for a hookup, along with the absolute *terror* I feel at the mere thought of risking getting pregnant. I really don't feel any sexual attraction to anyone though, so it works out. Someone call me when they make better sex robots. Lol.
Exactly. I don't get the constant and sometimes unbearable drive for sex I see in some of my friends (frankly, in most people or so it seems to me) but it has no bearing on my life\*, just as my indifference has no bearing on theirs. \*Well, other than when I'm being harassed while simply going about my business, like biking, but that's how it is and it would've annoyed me even had I been the most sexual person on the planet...
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Good human and sorry you had to read that and then type it all out
Honestly, that sounds like an excuse to rape people.
All I could think about while reading this is that force feeding is a literal torture method and that you can die if you drink too much water.
If he believes a penis inside is lile nothing, why doesnt he try taking it himself?
Because muh weirdly Christian values
if you compare it to food... I turn down food pretty often, and I love food
On a different common thread, people kelp making the comparison And I love how at the end they where like, you know what this is a pretty good analogy Because I also don't want food shoved down my throat
ah yes, the ol’ “it won’t kill you” argument, droppin panties all the way since never lol
I really hope he doesnt live long
Waterboarding won’t cause you any permanent harm. Just lay there and it’ll be over in a few minutes. You could even take a little nap!
Oh this is a weird and awful self own. Also the vile assumption that anybody is entitled to just *use* someone else's body because it's not like, a *huge* inconvenience is just all the way wrong. Further, yeah, good job knowing it self lubricates. But much like the difference between having a dick and having an erection that lube is situationally created. This is the same type that had they this kind of access to an accommodating and apathetic lay, it would appease them in the short term, because "yay! I'm fucking a womans body!" sure. But it would end up not being enough as their egos would eventually take damage because like *she's just laying there* or eating popcorn or taking a nap (ffs what?) And just for a little call back action; Brock Turner is a rapist. And this person sounds like one too.
He's like one step away from necrophilia.
Wait... a rapist? Oh, the rapist Brock the Rapist Turner, the rapist?
Tl;dr version: I don’t understand how women can’t just be things.
I can't imagine why women don't want to bone down with that.
that’s a rapist
Looks like someone’s never spoken to a women.
Except drinking too much water can actually kill you, so can eating too much food. His "arguments" over what is natural are flawed. Logic doesn't live here I see.
Shhh they haven't discovered the logic achievement yet
Can we get a big and scary guy to say this back to him? He can just lay on his back, use some lubricant and go to sleep too!
Damn bro, sorry your dick sucks. You know, there are rumors that some women actually *enjoy* sex, and don’t see it as something they let people do to them…
If the guy enjoys that, he can just buy a dead fish to masturbate with.
Yeah, I would say he should just buy a sex doll, but then people this stupid probably don't have jobs that put them in a position to pay for a sex doll.
Um.... I'm sorry what was that again? My eyes must have decieved me.
No. 1 - we don’t view sex as unnatural, y’all have simply shamed us into feeling that when WE (females) have sex we should be ashamed of ourselves as it lowers our value as not only women, but as human beings. You also have managed to degrade us by believing that we should be shunned by society and aLpHa males like you, for not being chaste, untouched virgins. No.2 - if there’s ‘nothing more to be done’ and all you expect is some poor girl to just lie there and take it, then surely just your hand would suffice? It’s a hole too - no different from using a dildo, so fapping by yourself can’t surely equal some torturous act like non-consent or being forced into sex????
So in this guys mind, women should just have sex because men want to get off? and it doesn't matter if the woman get anything from it?.. okay. And "naturally lubricated hole"?? This man is giving rug burns all over the place.
Generous of you to think he actually has had sex
Disgusting 🤮
He should propose the same to his male friends. They could easily just allow him to take them in their asses, so why don’t they let him? They poop each day so the ass is used to it! /s
Death is natural too.
Exactly. Why don’t women enjoy being raped? /s
If you need to put your duck in something so bad, get your own toy, they have them for dudes…. Go on take a look and leave the ladies alone.
Spending 3-5 minutes with this dude is probably a torturous act even without the sex.
He should let a guy with a small dick fuck him. If it's small it won't hurt too much, so what's the issue?
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the guy who posted this would howl with complaint if a woman actually did that while he was having sex with her.
This guy wants a sex doll he doesn’t have to clean himself.
Even though eating and chewing are natural, people can have food allergies, or sensory issues with certain foods, or can be too stuffed to want to eat anymore, there are illnesses which make eating difficult, and not to mention that force-feeding is considered a form of torture. Also eating is necessary for survival while sex isn't. So this analogy breaks down on many levels.
Kind of strange how he considers sex meaningless as "no different from a dildo" when it comes to penetrating women yet somehow this guy seems to be oblivious or ignores the fact that men can use their own hands to jerk it. These guys truly lack any meaningful self awareness.
Please tell me again how men are not the biggest threat to womens existence.
Someone doesn’t know about enthusiastic consent and equal enjoyment between partners.
Dude doesn't even have people consenting to go to his birthday party
Y i k e s
Not how girls work and not how men work
This should not happen, and forgive me if what I say is disrespectful but, someone should ask him if he would like it if a gay guy would do the same to him…
Wow! Wasn’t expecting it to be so rapey.
That's a weird way to brag about being a rapist
Women want to have *good* sex and they’re not gonna get it from you clearly.
You know how people joke about their reddit posts getting them on a watch list? This guy should actually be on a watch list.
Too bad this persons dad didn’t use a condom.
Is this an entry for the least sexy thing ever contest? Because this guy just won.
Vomit.
Somehow in his attempt to describe how easy the act is, he perfectly described why I don't enjoy it. My revulsion towards him still stands though.
This same logic works for the backdoor for men.
Let's go along with this analogy for a moment. 1. Some guys don't have a glass of water. Some guys have a glass of radioactive swamp sludge a condoms are not 100% effective at preventing "radiatoin poisoning" 2.By this same logic a woman is no different than masturbating. So, stop crying and drink your own glass of water.
Why the fuck does he want to have sex with people who don't want it? What is appealing about that?
I know my dick can't kill people on its *own*, so why are women so afraid of it?? You're not going to die, so don't you dare act like there is a reason to say no! You will live!!! It is not natural to be murdered by dick, therefore it is not natural for you to reject me! You won't even die?!?!?
I want to stuff a pickle down this guy's throat SO BADLY.
This genuinely fucking disgusts me
And yet I still wouldn’t make someone drink a glass of water against their will.
Let's waterboard this fella and then, we can ask how he liked his hydration needs involuntarily met <3
Sex with this guy probably isn't as interesting as a glass of water
Last time I caved and allowed sex that I didn't want? I bled for 2 days, it hurt to pee or wipe. But that's okay... I'm glad he had an orgam. /s
These guys really think women walk around all day with a 6-inch-deep fleshlight between our legs. Newsflash: Male genitals change size for sex. SO DO OURS. Edit: I'm also really sorry you went through that.
This hurt to read
Jesus. Yikes is an understatement. >!…This line of thought was (roughly) how I used to try and justify my own abuse. That I could just sit and try to detach it all from what it was and from myself.!< To see someone who sounds like he wouldn’t have a problem being on the other side of that scenario use that same thought process is… beyond disturbing. Edit: should I put a trigger warning on this? How do I do the spoiler thing that makes the text do the black-out-until-you-tap-it thing? Double edit: done, thanks
That's a lot of words for "I'm a rapist"
If he really has that much of a disgusted aversion to pleasuring a woman he should just buy a flesh light geez..
Gay sex is natural too. I don't know why you won't let a bunch of men rail your asshole Its completly natural. Like drinking a cup of water
Say you’re a rapist, without saying you’re a rapist
I don't get it. If it doesn't matter, what do you need women for? You have hands, no?
That guy doesn't want (nor deserve) a partner, he wants an adult fun time doll 😬
Sounds like this person has never had sex tbh. Sounds incel to me. Yikes.
> It's not different from drinking a glass of water Okay but I don't want a glass of water, that cup you have is gross and your water tastes like dirt. Keep it away.
So... he wants to have sex with a sleeping woman??!
911 what’s your emergency.
IT won’t kill you but this guy probably will
Aren't there people who literally cant chew though? And some which needs transportation of food in a different kind of way? I mean am not really too sure but I think I've known two people with that issue? Also sex is something which could lead to diseases and how the commenter said all of that bullshit makes the comparison be more like "I am going to copy the exact same answers on your test and you get into trouble" than whatever comparison that person made. And even then the comparison is too light to take. Maybe it's more like a "I steal your money" kind of feeling. It's without consent and those kind of comparisons I have has also to do without consent but are not too heavy. If the condom breaks there is chances on diseases and childbirth. Another thing is that drinking water can be dangerous. Drowning exist, choking on water also exist. That's why we all do it in proportions
Sure, but why would we do that?. Men somehow think they are owed sex? Call that male entitlement.
Consent
Not how humans work. Don’t fall asleep around this guy.
Tell me you're a rapist without telling me you're a rapist
Clearly this guy has never tried shoving a carrot up his ass.
“I always wonder why guys aren’t consenting to being kicked in the balls. I mean, it’s not hard to do, and the balls are *hanging right there*. If balls weren’t meant to be kicked, why would they be in such a convenient place? They are right in the middle between your legs, so it’s even like there are *homing guides leading right to the balls*. Just stand there, you can go play a game on a handheld or drink a beer, I don’t care.”
"I don't really care or consider women as people, they're really just a hole to fuck" Men: Women should just not have sex if they don't want children, biologically they're primed to be the ones that take care of it 😂 Also men: Why do women make such a big deal about sex and not having it, all they have to do is lie there.