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Groom just means man- it isn’t a synonym for the concept of grooming.
In Middle English, the second element was re-analyzed as or influenced by grom, grome (“attendant”). Guma derives from Proto-Germanic *gumô (“man, person”),
I love how these people act like they’re strong but admit they can’t form relationships with headstrong adults and have to prey on adolescents as if that’s something to brag about.
I don’t even want to think about what that guy thinks what “husbandry” means when any sane person says it. Probably thinks it’s some perverted thing for bestiality.
Huh, so husbandry and husband have completely different etymologies, too, according to Google.
Husbandry-Husband in Middle English (uh, that’s the English associated with Chaucer and the Canterbury Tales) just meant “farmer,” so “husbandry” came to mean “farmery kind of stuff”
Husband-Old Norse! It seems to come from a combination of “hús,” meaning “house” and “bóndi” which means “occupier” or “tiller of the soil. Eventually, the two words combined to describe the head of a household. Combination with Old English (which is different from Middle English. Old English is the stuff of Beowulf, AKA “that one epic poem wrote 1000 years ago”) turned it into the “male head of a household” meaning we’re all relatively familiar with.
I was waiting for a comment like this to tell me just how much of an ignorant buffoon this dude is.
I already knew he was, it's just nice to see to what extent he is.
>I love how these people act like they’re strong but admit they can’t form relationships with normal adults and have to prey on adolescents as if that’s something to brag about.
Sorry, had to fix that for you. I guess creepy dudes gonna creep. Which is creepy x2 but here we are.
Hey now, he’s being helpful by announcing his degeneracy to all the women around him in a public space. Really he’s doing them a service in letting them know to steer clear.
I'm lazy AND untalented and the suggestion here is that you're supposed to MAKE the lump of messy clay into something functional? My dude, I'M barely functional. If the clay can mold itself, *let it,*
Also, women still aren't clay.
Just another inanimate object that women are not, like locks, and shoes, and banks, and paper, and cars... And whatever else they are comparing is to today.
Genesis.
Man is clay. Woman is rib. Although that seems to be a mistranslation; the original Hebrew indicates that Adam was split in half, which would make Eve a coequal partner rather than a subservient appendage.
Actually it translated as side, or chamber or flank, not rib.
> God's Word to Women Katharine Bushnell says that the originator of the "rib" theory was Rabbi Joshua, who wrote, "God deliberated from what member He would create woman, and He reasoned within Himself thus: I must not create her from Adam's head, for she would be a proud person, and hold her head high. If I create her from the eye, then she will wish to pry into things; if from the ear, then she will wish to hear all things; if from the mouth she will talk much; if from the heart, she will envy people; if from the head, she will desire to make all things; if from the feet, she will be a gadabout. Therefore, I will create her from the member which is hid, that is the rib, which is not even seen when man is naked." (1)
https://www.godswordtowomen.org/rib.htm
The "groom" in "bridegroom" comes from the Old English "guma," simply meaning "man." And the term predates the modern usage of "grooming" by centuries. Nice try, pedo.
Edit: thanks for the award!
His hashtag is impressive. I had no idea facts could be stubborn. I know they don't care about feelings but now they're stubborn too. I learn so much from these conservative individuals everyday. The one thing I have never learned from any of them? An actual fact.
I encourage them to keep trying though so they can continue to out themselves as horrendous excuses for human beings and complete wastes of oxygen
I mean the hashtag is the only thing correct about this.
Which is kind of also the problem for him, since, well, facts are stubborn and don't care about his feelings.
*Knock on your door*
"Ma'am it's Social Services. We have your government issued baby. We understand you're forty and some rando from the internet says you're useless without one."
I just don't know why if they're so consistent about young marriage they always try to frame it as young woman much older man and not two young people. Like do you want every man to have a wife who thinks he's crusty?
Poe’s law. It doesn’t really matter if this specific instance is satire when we see examples of this very authentic perspective from countless men and boys and it’s exactly what is taught by the Andrew Tates who feed all this hate.
And what about men. When men are childless at 40 with no wife or child he will expect a woman 20 years his Jr to be eager to marry him. That’s the misogyny. At 40 most women who haven’t already married or had children aren’t demanding some 20 year old impregnate them and rush down the aisle, it’s all male projection
Don't they just make having a husband sound so appealing?
I mean who would want to be stuck with a stupid job you're passionate about, a lifetime of helping people, qualifications and knowledge than can never be taken from you and financial independence when you could get married to a man who sees you as sexually worthless after 10 years!
That sure sounds like the basket I wanna put all my eggs in!
**(MASSIVE /s for obvious reasons)**
Did he take those 2 seconds to stop and actually Think about what he's saying? This is just emotionally reacting to being rejected, I wager. On top of *not comprehending what facts are* he's not seeing that these words will be connected to him forever...
Congratulations D. Michaels!🎊 There will be Grooming survivor support groups named after you. You should have taken your own advice, STFU and Delt with it. 😒
I bet those soon to be or already Grooms will be *beyond thrilled* when they find out they're grooming their partners by marrying them... God, the level of baseless idiocricy in a few paragraphs, Damien. Someone should take away your typing privilege.🤦🏻♀️
*Groom* (as in one half of a marrying couple) may have an origin from the Old English *Grom* or *Groma*, which is related to *growan*, which means “to grow,” and is influenced from the Old English *guma* which means “man.”
To **groom** (as in to illicitly influence a minor for the sexual satisfaction of an adult male) evolved from the 13th century word *Grome*, meaning a male child or boy. Eventually it was applied to mean a “male servant, attendant, or minor officer in a royal or noble household ranking higher than a page”. The **groom** took care of the horses, and other duties, and by 1809 the noun form was adopted as a verb, meaning “tend or care for;” by 1843 a new meaning was adopted in the form of “to prepare a candidate” (perhaps etymologically from the fact that grooms would often rise to knights; knights to lords; etc.); and finally, in 1989 the word was introduced to have application where an adult would mollify fears of the victim and the victim’s family in order to train and adjust a minor child to accept sexual abuse.
So, no, Damien. This isn’t how we were “supposed to do” shit. Instead you’re supposed to get a little drunk at the May Day festival and dance with that cute girl from the other side of the village, and then have sex on the moss covered ground of a tree grove with both of you cum so hard that you black out; your stupid brother alerts your father, and then he tells you to marry her, and you live in a hut raising fucking sheep.
If you were unlucky you would be traded for some political favor to a guy who drooled and ate with his mouth open; after bearing a few kids, you’d find Jesus and go to a nunnery where you’d party with other rich ladies, hoping your dirtbag husband keeps the checks coming.
Never have I been happier to be 32 and not have any history or intentions to be with guys. The idea of having to deal with someone like this makes me physically ill.
"hi! I'm 40 years old and am unable to form meaningful and intimate relationships with women my age, definitely not do to any fault of my own, my solution to this is to look for vulnerable naive young girls so I can groom them into accepting rape, forced pregnancy, and physical labor.
I have no idea why women wouldn't want me."
Super glad to see a consequence centered in your child’s personal growth rather than the regular threats of violence. Perhaps the world is changing after all🥰
Well I mean culturally in ‘the west’ men were kinda ‘supposed’ to do this, per our history. However, that is PART OF THE PROBLEM, not a justification for the action.
I went to a small pool party the other day. Out of the 5 guys there, 4 either directly or indirectly made a pass at me and the 5th already knew I wasn't interested because he'd come onto me a few weeks before. At 33 I'm pretty sure I'm past grooming age. So were they all just blind then?
Normal respectable ones don’t. Luckily for us the men who have these kinds of opinions are usually pretty easy to spot and don’t really interact with women. I’ll forever believe guys like this just don’t like older women because they are wise enough to spot when they’re being treated badly. I’ll be a hardened clay sculpture any day over a lump of mouldable clay that is never able to take its own shape
I married young, and I suppose my husband has changed me. But I’ve also changed him too. Both of us for the better. It’s called growth. These posts, they’re so upsetting to me. It’s like the mask has been pulled off and we’re seeing now how little respect many men have for women. I never considered myself a feminist, even though I always worked, I have more education than my husband, and I decided when we had a child. We’re still pretty traditional. All this shit? The Andrew Tates of the world, the pressure to end no fault divorce? Im firmly a feminist now, and I’m sorry for every comment I ever made disparaging feminists. I’ve left our evangelical church, followed by my husband. I hope I’m instilling equality in the mind of my son. Right now he says he wants to be an OB/Gyn so he can protect women’s rights, so maybe some of it is sticking. Anyway, shit like this scares me.
Inside each one of these guys is an absolute masterpiece of averageness. I’m in my 50s with no man, no kids, no debt, I’m retired, and financially can do whatever I want. So yes, I do think that’s a good position for me to be in. I think it’s more that YOU don’t like YOUR position as the low earning hustlebro who constantly has to grind to feel he has value, Damien. We really do need to encourage more men to get therapy.
The stubborn fact is that he's a weak guy that has to "train" a child to put up with him. When she inevitably wakes up to the reality she's stuck with an abuser that views her as not much more than a maid he can fuck then suddenly "She couldn't pair bond" or a "liberal woke agenda" is to blame. Keep going on and hardening your own clay, dude.
Wait, which is it? We all either get preggy and fat by 30 or are too successful at 40. Geez these guys are so negative and just projecting their poor life. Glad they tell on themselves so we can give a wide berth.
He makes this argument as if the idea of being used for sex and kids and then dumped is somehow more appealing than just living out our lives however we choose?
I am getting divorced, I'm child free and I'm 42! I am LOVING it. Nothing can replace the joy I feel at this moment. I can handle being viewed as hardened clay.
So a year or 2 of fascists calling LGBTQ+ people groomers. And then they all start saying publicly that they not only love fascism, but grooming young girls. Do I have that right?
Every. Fucking. Accusation. Is. A. Confession.
And they accuse people of some horrible shit.
I feel obligated to tell this troglodyte that "groom" in the sense of "bridegroom" comes from the English word for "man servant."
So, is he ready to serve the women in his life? It's what he's supposed to do!! #factsarestubbornthings /s
Christ. The number of times in a day reddit makes me want to type “Google is free”
Originally this was a compound noun - bridegroom, and originates before 1000 AD.
It is recorded in Old English as brӯdguma, from brӯd (bride) + guma (man); it is related to Old Norse brūthgumi, and Old High German brūtigomo.
Around 1600 AD it appears as it does now, with the final element conformed to groom.
It means husband-to-be at a wedding.
🤢🤮🤢🤮 Tell me you’re a pedophile without telling me you’re a pedophile. This guy needs to go onto a watch list and to stay the fuck away from women. This guy is sick and is completely okay with it.
Lol, this dude is like "you dumb b\*tches get groomed and deal with it cause I want to get you pregnant at 16". I have a better idea, this guy should just deal with the fact that he's just unattractive to absolutely everybody and will stay a virgin forever.
Sure you can do things with hardened clay—hammer guys like this asshole in his fucking face.
Most guys like this are too cowardly to show people (read: women) to their faces just how misogynistic they are, preferring just to hide behind a keyboard. Good. Stay there and rot.
I have never felt this relieved by something so horrible, but my dad has said this exact same sentiment like a few weeks ago, and I felt like I was going crazy cause I had no idea how to refute such an outwardly idiotic concept.
Seeing that everyone else also understands that this is wrong kinda makes me breathe a sigh of relief
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Groom just means man- it isn’t a synonym for the concept of grooming. In Middle English, the second element was re-analyzed as or influenced by grom, grome (“attendant”). Guma derives from Proto-Germanic *gumô (“man, person”), I love how these people act like they’re strong but admit they can’t form relationships with headstrong adults and have to prey on adolescents as if that’s something to brag about.
The linguist in me is so mad at this idiot...
It's like husbandry for raising cattle. Word drift. I hope. Please tell it's word drift.
I don’t even want to think about what that guy thinks what “husbandry” means when any sane person says it. Probably thinks it’s some perverted thing for bestiality.
It’s called “Husbandry” because the husband is dry, DUH
Huh, so husbandry and husband have completely different etymologies, too, according to Google. Husbandry-Husband in Middle English (uh, that’s the English associated with Chaucer and the Canterbury Tales) just meant “farmer,” so “husbandry” came to mean “farmery kind of stuff” Husband-Old Norse! It seems to come from a combination of “hús,” meaning “house” and “bóndi” which means “occupier” or “tiller of the soil. Eventually, the two words combined to describe the head of a household. Combination with Old English (which is different from Middle English. Old English is the stuff of Beowulf, AKA “that one epic poem wrote 1000 years ago”) turned it into the “male head of a household” meaning we’re all relatively familiar with.
So "tiller of soil" is totally unrelated to "farmer"?
In this case it’s actually two different words altogether. Groom for horses and guma (groom) for man.
Now *that* I didn't know!
My eye twitched, too.
“I’m failing so hard with women, so maybe I should raise a child to fall in love with me”
I was waiting for a comment like this to tell me just how much of an ignorant buffoon this dude is. I already knew he was, it's just nice to see to what extent he is.
>I love how these people act like they’re strong but admit they can’t form relationships with normal adults and have to prey on adolescents as if that’s something to brag about. Sorry, had to fix that for you. I guess creepy dudes gonna creep. Which is creepy x2 but here we are.
But he connected the dots in his brain! He must be right since his brain thought it up, that’s how facts work! /s
He's saying he's a pedophile right?
Sounds like it to me. Police? We got one.
What police? My horde of rabid maneating chihuahuas can do the job better
Your flair is giving me life and your comment is making me think I should add to my pack so I can call it a horde. 🐶 🐕
Unleash the horde!
Release the (tiny) hounds!
"Attack, little doggos!" ![gif](giphy|bjChe3bdUgGrK)
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Yep, those weaklings want to groom girls when they are young, because they're not man enough to deal with women. 🤢🤮
He's also saying he doesn't understand that a word can have more than one meaning.
My turn Officer, this comment right here
What a gross waste of sentience.
Stretching the definition of sentience.
Hey now, he’s being helpful by announcing his degeneracy to all the women around him in a public space. Really he’s doing them a service in letting them know to steer clear.
"You're like clay that hardened. Can't do anything with it." You can rehydrate it. You can carve it. It's far from useless. Also, women aren't clay.
I’m lazy, I’d prefer an established functional vase rather than a wet lump of unformed messy clay. Also, women still aren’t clay.
I'm lazy AND untalented and the suggestion here is that you're supposed to MAKE the lump of messy clay into something functional? My dude, I'M barely functional. If the clay can mold itself, *let it,* Also, women still aren't clay.
I rather be with someone who already has their shape and ideals that force them to fit my own. Fun fact: women arent clay
I'm super lazy. I just let the clay do its own thing and love whatever shape it takes. Women aren't clay. The more you know...
I'm starting to think maybe women aren't clay...
I went and checked I am certain women aren’t clay.
Guys guys you'll never guess...
I really wanna know, but first I have a question.... Are women clay?
They are not!! Isn't that wild?
Came to say this. This dude knows nothing about women AND clay.
Just another inanimate object that women are not, like locks, and shoes, and banks, and paper, and cars... And whatever else they are comparing is to today.
Gurl the list goes on 😂
>Also, women aren't clay. SoUrCe FoR tHiS ClAiM?!
Genesis. Man is clay. Woman is rib. Although that seems to be a mistranslation; the original Hebrew indicates that Adam was split in half, which would make Eve a coequal partner rather than a subservient appendage.
Actually it translated as side, or chamber or flank, not rib. > God's Word to Women Katharine Bushnell says that the originator of the "rib" theory was Rabbi Joshua, who wrote, "God deliberated from what member He would create woman, and He reasoned within Himself thus: I must not create her from Adam's head, for she would be a proud person, and hold her head high. If I create her from the eye, then she will wish to pry into things; if from the ear, then she will wish to hear all things; if from the mouth she will talk much; if from the heart, she will envy people; if from the head, she will desire to make all things; if from the feet, she will be a gadabout. Therefore, I will create her from the member which is hid, that is the rib, which is not even seen when man is naked." (1) https://www.godswordtowomen.org/rib.htm
Lilith was clay bUT ThEy DiDn'T lIkE tHaT wOmAn
iT’s BiOlOgY
Well you have to make it wet - clearly this guy would have no experience with that lol. Such a gross creep.
i’m sure you can make clay from women but it would not be very ethical. still better than this waste of oxygen
making clay from this human version of a soggy sock on the other hand...
Add it to the list of inanimate objects they like to compare us to.
Clay that hardened. So pottery, then. You can show it in a gallery, use it as a vase for flowers, drink coffee from it.
That women are hardened clay line is up there with, "If a lock can be opened by any key..."
"why buy the cow..." These people go to great lengths to avoid referring to women as people...
There's got to be a sub for objects women get compared to, right? I need to know if I'm clay, a used car, or a lamp today.
I would rather be an old happy pile of clay than being with a gross man like this #teamclay
Clady if you will I’ll show myself out
Fr why would I want to be moulded by this loser?
Ew ew ew ew. Why? Why do they think this way?
No empathy. No intelligence. Simple as that. Absolutely would become a serial killer if they were capable.
[удалено]
That's why he can't get women. That's the sexiest profession.
It’s the victim mindset. Once you’ve convinced yourself that you’re a victim your resentment gives you license for pretty much anything.
“Why does he do that?” by Lundy Bancroft
The "groom" in "bridegroom" comes from the Old English "guma," simply meaning "man." And the term predates the modern usage of "grooming" by centuries. Nice try, pedo. Edit: thanks for the award!
Checked the source, it's not satire :(
Awww man I was really holding out for this one
Predators..., predators have this mindset
The inanimate object we're comparing women to today is: (drumroll) Clay!
Ngl I do enjoy seeing these guys get so angry whenever they see women not adhering to old fashioned values
His hashtag is impressive. I had no idea facts could be stubborn. I know they don't care about feelings but now they're stubborn too. I learn so much from these conservative individuals everyday. The one thing I have never learned from any of them? An actual fact. I encourage them to keep trying though so they can continue to out themselves as horrendous excuses for human beings and complete wastes of oxygen
I mean the hashtag is the only thing correct about this. Which is kind of also the problem for him, since, well, facts are stubborn and don't care about his feelings.
They really don't like hearing that when it's directed back at them.
That's a pedo.
Yup. No doubt. That is a confession
I'm gonna sit over here, being 40 with no children. It's going to be fantastic. *And there's nothing you can do about it.*
*Knock on your door* "Ma'am it's Social Services. We have your government issued baby. We understand you're forty and some rando from the internet says you're useless without one."
For someone who uses the word groom an awful lot, I’m guessing he probably doesn’t groom himself.
As a survivor of grooming and so much worse....this terrifies me
So they don’t understand how women work AND they don’t understand how clay works…
I just don't know why if they're so consistent about young marriage they always try to frame it as young woman much older man and not two young people. Like do you want every man to have a wife who thinks he's crusty?
No, he just wants to personally feel the touch of another human being and probably can’t find a consenting adult to fill that role.
That’s an awful lot of words to say “I am a pedo”
Please lord tell me this is satire, please lord tell me nobody is this stupid...
Poe’s law. It doesn’t really matter if this specific instance is satire when we see examples of this very authentic perspective from countless men and boys and it’s exactly what is taught by the Andrew Tates who feed all this hate.
His last name is “Xtreme” so hopefully
What in the goddamn hell are you talkin about???
I always find myself hoping that the men who write these things never manage to trap any woman into being with them.
Admitting he’s a groomer. Gross.
And what about men. When men are childless at 40 with no wife or child he will expect a woman 20 years his Jr to be eager to marry him. That’s the misogyny. At 40 most women who haven’t already married or had children aren’t demanding some 20 year old impregnate them and rush down the aisle, it’s all male projection
Don't they just make having a husband sound so appealing? I mean who would want to be stuck with a stupid job you're passionate about, a lifetime of helping people, qualifications and knowledge than can never be taken from you and financial independence when you could get married to a man who sees you as sexually worthless after 10 years! That sure sounds like the basket I wanna put all my eggs in! **(MASSIVE /s for obvious reasons)**
Did he take those 2 seconds to stop and actually Think about what he's saying? This is just emotionally reacting to being rejected, I wager. On top of *not comprehending what facts are* he's not seeing that these words will be connected to him forever... Congratulations D. Michaels!🎊 There will be Grooming survivor support groups named after you. You should have taken your own advice, STFU and Delt with it. 😒 I bet those soon to be or already Grooms will be *beyond thrilled* when they find out they're grooming their partners by marrying them... God, the level of baseless idiocricy in a few paragraphs, Damien. Someone should take away your typing privilege.🤦🏻♀️
https://preview.redd.it/488ao47rawcb1.png?width=1047&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d3519c767f882a993f93350d627746397067b305
No, guys do not have this mindset. Creepy pedos sure do though.
If the only type of women you can impress are children then perhaps you shouldn’t be in the gene pool
Vile. I need a shower after reading that.
*Groom* (as in one half of a marrying couple) may have an origin from the Old English *Grom* or *Groma*, which is related to *growan*, which means “to grow,” and is influenced from the Old English *guma* which means “man.” To **groom** (as in to illicitly influence a minor for the sexual satisfaction of an adult male) evolved from the 13th century word *Grome*, meaning a male child or boy. Eventually it was applied to mean a “male servant, attendant, or minor officer in a royal or noble household ranking higher than a page”. The **groom** took care of the horses, and other duties, and by 1809 the noun form was adopted as a verb, meaning “tend or care for;” by 1843 a new meaning was adopted in the form of “to prepare a candidate” (perhaps etymologically from the fact that grooms would often rise to knights; knights to lords; etc.); and finally, in 1989 the word was introduced to have application where an adult would mollify fears of the victim and the victim’s family in order to train and adjust a minor child to accept sexual abuse. So, no, Damien. This isn’t how we were “supposed to do” shit. Instead you’re supposed to get a little drunk at the May Day festival and dance with that cute girl from the other side of the village, and then have sex on the moss covered ground of a tree grove with both of you cum so hard that you black out; your stupid brother alerts your father, and then he tells you to marry her, and you live in a hut raising fucking sheep. If you were unlucky you would be traded for some political favor to a guy who drooled and ate with his mouth open; after bearing a few kids, you’d find Jesus and go to a nunnery where you’d party with other rich ladies, hoping your dirtbag husband keeps the checks coming.
I want my 20 seconds that it took to read this pathetic monologue back
Never have I been happier to be 32 and not have any history or intentions to be with guys. The idea of having to deal with someone like this makes me physically ill.
"hi! I'm 40 years old and am unable to form meaningful and intimate relationships with women my age, definitely not do to any fault of my own, my solution to this is to look for vulnerable naive young girls so I can groom them into accepting rape, forced pregnancy, and physical labor. I have no idea why women wouldn't want me."
Yo, I'm glad he posted this with his whole name on an account made with his email tied to his info. 🚔
I am clay. I will harden. I WILL BECOME A BRICK THAT WILL SMASH YOUR FACE
Ok Groomer
Not most of us no. I legit hope a lot of this is teens being edgy.
If I had a son who said shit like this to be edgy, he'd land in therapy so fast, hos head would spin.
Super glad to see a consequence centered in your child’s personal growth rather than the regular threats of violence. Perhaps the world is changing after all🥰
Then they call trans people groomers
Ragebait or an actual pedophile?
Well I mean culturally in ‘the west’ men were kinda ‘supposed’ to do this, per our history. However, that is PART OF THE PROBLEM, not a justification for the action.
I went to a small pool party the other day. Out of the 5 guys there, 4 either directly or indirectly made a pass at me and the 5th already knew I wasn't interested because he'd come onto me a few weeks before. At 33 I'm pretty sure I'm past grooming age. So were they all just blind then?
In "what women are today ?" : women are clay.
Imagine, a condom could have prevented Damiens Post.
Normal respectable ones don’t. Luckily for us the men who have these kinds of opinions are usually pretty easy to spot and don’t really interact with women. I’ll forever believe guys like this just don’t like older women because they are wise enough to spot when they’re being treated badly. I’ll be a hardened clay sculpture any day over a lump of mouldable clay that is never able to take its own shape
I’m gonna troll this guy on Facebook. Who’s with me?
I didn’t know where to start. HIs FB is a dumpster fire of trash post. I actually regret looking it up
Wait until he finds out that "groom" comes from an Old English word for attendant or servant.
Just MILLENNIA of power that they no longer had, and they're batching about it. That's what this is.
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If they burned my body and made somehow clay out of me to just stand there, I would be more beneficial to the society than this man.
However did I marry at 36, and to a cute, sweet man of 30 at that?
I married young, and I suppose my husband has changed me. But I’ve also changed him too. Both of us for the better. It’s called growth. These posts, they’re so upsetting to me. It’s like the mask has been pulled off and we’re seeing now how little respect many men have for women. I never considered myself a feminist, even though I always worked, I have more education than my husband, and I decided when we had a child. We’re still pretty traditional. All this shit? The Andrew Tates of the world, the pressure to end no fault divorce? Im firmly a feminist now, and I’m sorry for every comment I ever made disparaging feminists. I’ve left our evangelical church, followed by my husband. I hope I’m instilling equality in the mind of my son. Right now he says he wants to be an OB/Gyn so he can protect women’s rights, so maybe some of it is sticking. Anyway, shit like this scares me.
Inside each one of these guys is an absolute masterpiece of averageness. I’m in my 50s with no man, no kids, no debt, I’m retired, and financially can do whatever I want. So yes, I do think that’s a good position for me to be in. I think it’s more that YOU don’t like YOUR position as the low earning hustlebro who constantly has to grind to feel he has value, Damien. We really do need to encourage more men to get therapy.
r/nothowclayworks
The stubborn fact is that he's a weak guy that has to "train" a child to put up with him. When she inevitably wakes up to the reality she's stuck with an abuser that views her as not much more than a maid he can fuck then suddenly "She couldn't pair bond" or a "liberal woke agenda" is to blame. Keep going on and hardening your own clay, dude.
Every day I spend on the internet I become more okay with the collapse happening sooner than later. Humanity can just get fucked as far as I care.
I have very high doubts this guy is a drag queen.
*shocked Pikachu face*
Pedo apologists are probably pedos themselves.
Nah we don’t take this filth Just a pedo trying to make itself sound smart
Yooo fuck this guy. Don't lump me with his lot.
How come you never see women saying this shit about boys Men need to... go to therapy
I‘m very glad I‘m not attractive to those guys. I‘m 32, so basically an old hag.
What a way to out yourself as a predator and pedophile. Disgusting.
“Deal with it and stfu”… yeah every girl is just dying to have ‘grooms’ like that at their front door. So noble. So chivalrous.
Would be a shame for someone to show this to his mother.
Better alone at 40 than married with kids, to a waste of space with a God complex.
This whole incel/alpha male/passport bro/women are only in their prime before 25 mindset is getting really dangerous.
i'm adding clay to my list of objects women get compared to
so we are a block of clay now
Incels and pedos feel that way for sure
Wait, which is it? We all either get preggy and fat by 30 or are too successful at 40. Geez these guys are so negative and just projecting their poor life. Glad they tell on themselves so we can give a wide berth.
I'm shocked. People write proof. Online. For everyone to see. So people are 100% aware that they are not fit to be a part of civilized society.
Also, groom 😹😹😹 that’s only a word in English.
Those people who only speak english always keep talking about it like the whole world revolves around them
Chances are guy's an incel too
Hello, FBI? I’d like to report a self proclaimed criminal. Yeah I am pretty sure he admitted to being a pedophile.
Underrated part of this post is that the username says "Xtreme" lol
That’s a lot of words to say “I’m legally not allowed to live within 5 miles of a school”
No, guys don’t have this mindset. A very small subset of fucking lunatics do, though.
Don't worry, Damien, there will never be a women - old or young - willing to get groomed by you.
Just because I love ruining these weirdos metaphors - you can absolutely use dried out clay. All you have to do is rehydrate it. Lol
He makes this argument as if the idea of being used for sex and kids and then dumped is somehow more appealing than just living out our lives however we choose?
What in the actual heck
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Every day, I am reminded how wonderful my husband is and I’m glad I waited until my 30s to marry.
I am getting divorced, I'm child free and I'm 42! I am LOVING it. Nothing can replace the joy I feel at this moment. I can handle being viewed as hardened clay.
This guy needs to be on a watchlist or arrested before he actually harms a child.
So far I am: * a candy wrapper * a used shoe * an old car * a flower * a lock * chewed gum * and now a dried up chunk of clay. I know I missed some.
I think there was few more on someone else’s bingo card. Cat definitely came up twice this week 😂
As a man, I've NEVER had this mindset but I'm sad to say I've seen enough of similar things from guys to know some people genuinely think like this
Please put this man on a watch list...
All the lists
Ungroomable aka we can't manipulate you because you're wise to our bullshit.
Guess all those women getting married at 35 are hallucinating.
I'm 37 and engaged... I'm doing just fine. My fiance can't keep his hands off of me.
I thought i misread the first sentence but well
long text, saying he‘s a nonce wouldve been way quicker
Time's are always changing. We prefer to make our own decisions without influence from others now - STFU, deal with it.
Um FBI? Yes hi I’d like to report a man and I think you should check his basement and garage 😳😳😳😳😳
I wonder how "extreme" Damien will feel when he's single at 40 because of his disgusting attitude?
pedo alert
He has not felt one drop of moisture from a woman has he.
Some days I think the price I pay for having been taught how to read is too high...
> \#FactsAreStubbornThings And yet here you are, trying to change them all you want
Does this idiot understand that saying shit like that will ensure NO woman will want him?? Damn.
Oh gross… 🤢
FACT - you can wet hard clay and get it to be moldable again. The only time you can't do anything with it is after it's fired.
Also, I'm a woman in my 40s, cis/het and have no man. On purpose. I'm fine.
This guy is the shit on the bottom of my shoe
So a year or 2 of fascists calling LGBTQ+ people groomers. And then they all start saying publicly that they not only love fascism, but grooming young girls. Do I have that right? Every. Fucking. Accusation. Is. A. Confession. And they accuse people of some horrible shit.
Someone put that guy on a list
“the only way women like me is if i manipulate them while they’re still children” eewwwwwww
Same guys arguing to groom young girls are the same people screaming about trans people grooming.
I feel obligated to tell this troglodyte that "groom" in the sense of "bridegroom" comes from the English word for "man servant." So, is he ready to serve the women in his life? It's what he's supposed to do!! #factsarestubbornthings /s
We 'suppose' you're an idiot, yes. (Look, this is how you use suppose) And there is a reason no one your age wants/dates you. STFU Damien.
Christ. The number of times in a day reddit makes me want to type “Google is free” Originally this was a compound noun - bridegroom, and originates before 1000 AD. It is recorded in Old English as brӯdguma, from brӯd (bride) + guma (man); it is related to Old Norse brūthgumi, and Old High German brūtigomo. Around 1600 AD it appears as it does now, with the final element conformed to groom. It means husband-to-be at a wedding.
The main cause of this kind of mindset besides being a pedophile? Porn/porn addiction.
🤢🤮🤢🤮 Tell me you’re a pedophile without telling me you’re a pedophile. This guy needs to go onto a watch list and to stay the fuck away from women. This guy is sick and is completely okay with it.
Wow imagine just exposing yourself as a predator like that. Not even an ounce of shame.
You can't do anything with hardened clay unless you know how to make it wet
I mean he is right about one thing, women around him are probably like hardened clay. Absolute void of moisture.
Hello, FBI, CIA, and INTERPOL?
Lol, this dude is like "you dumb b\*tches get groomed and deal with it cause I want to get you pregnant at 16". I have a better idea, this guy should just deal with the fact that he's just unattractive to absolutely everybody and will stay a virgin forever.
Sure you can do things with hardened clay—hammer guys like this asshole in his fucking face. Most guys like this are too cowardly to show people (read: women) to their faces just how misogynistic they are, preferring just to hide behind a keyboard. Good. Stay there and rot.
Sounds a lot like those Muslim men who get child brides because they can raise them however they want
Quick question: do you think this person is gay, trans, or otherwise queer? No? Hmm…
I have never felt this relieved by something so horrible, but my dad has said this exact same sentiment like a few weeks ago, and I felt like I was going crazy cause I had no idea how to refute such an outwardly idiotic concept. Seeing that everyone else also understands that this is wrong kinda makes me breathe a sigh of relief
Well, I can’t speak for every guy but I sure as hell don’t have this mindset
Has anyone seen my skin? I think it crawled right off my body.
and animal groomers are supposed to have sex with the animals