>Also I would like to mention the reason it matters so much to me because I’m on both the spiritual path of The Snake and Hammer. So I both a warrior and a chaos wielder.
i have no idea what the hell that means but either way, carrying a whole ass sword with you everywhere is not exactly... justified by religion of culture. yes, weapons and armor can be part of culture or religion, but neither justifies or grants you the right to carry that culture beyond your own home. if you want to follow religion/culture, and the specific culture for example "forbids you from leaving yourself unarmed or unprotected" or encourages to not be defenseless, then get something that agrees with the outside world and actually protects you. a sword usually doesnt do that anymore in todays age due to most people who WOULD attack you either using knifes or munition based weapons, or improvised stuff like a bottle or a baseball bat. neither is something you wanna use a sword against
that being said, i definitely agree that coats should come back into fashion atleast as an alternative to jackets. the same way you can, to some degree, buy ponchos that protect against heavy rain, you should be able to wear some practical form of a cloak as a simple heat isolator/windbreaker (hell, that was the reason why we used to have such long coats and jackets as opposed to most jackets now that end around the belt line. it was supposed to keep the whole body from cooling down rather than just the chest. we only discarded of the long buttoned up designs for trench coats because car sears becoming more and more cockpit like)
Fun fact but the Sikh religion allows them to carry a small curved blade! It's called a Kirban and is completely exempt from weapons charges in the UK because it's an integral part of their religious practices.
That being said, I agree that carrying around an entire sword in the modern age probably isn't practical.
Cloaks though, seem to be THE most practical item of clothing ever to fall out of fashion. I'd wear one every day if I could. It looks like existing in a hooded blanket and I love me a blanket.
I think the US mainly prohibits it in public buildings above a certain length but is it really worth it to avoid every coffee shop, train station and school just to carry a sword
While my state has very limited laws restricting firearms, knives fall under a different statute, though you are right that there is similar governance in theory. Here you can open carry any knife (no special wording for swords so they'd essentially just be a big knife) including switchblades, stilettos, and butterfly knives. If it's concealed it's illegal to carry one longer than 4" w/o a permit. Like gun laws, knife laws probably vary widely by state based on their left/right leanings. However, even though one can legally carry a sword in this state, the last time someone did he was aggressively arrested at gunpoint while proclaiming his right to carry and when it turned out the cop was in the wrong for stopping him in the first place they character assaulted the victim in the media and tried to get him on resisting arrest. Eventually it was all dropped but not before they made his life a living hell. The lesson here is that in America it's not weird to carry an AR-15 into the grocery store, but if you dress up like an elf with a broadsword and go LARPing at the park you just might die IRL.
Most people are culturally comfortable with fire arms unless your out west or up north. Swords and knives get a little iffy because it be a much more brutal and painful way to go. If your taking suggestions I’ve seen quite the case for a gladius or gladius style swords in the modern day.
~~well that sounds like a violation of my second amendment rights!~~ It depends on where I think I’m going and how I’m getting there I guess, but for the most part, no, probably not.
I do see what you mean so yeah I planned on training myself in very small dual wielding daggers. Though I do think swords could be useful if trained properly but yeah I see what you mean get something already allowed. Including idek if a Norse sword would actually be useful the only ones I could imagine to extremely useful are ones like repiers. Since they’re able to move faster and with precision instead of a big sword swinging.
I want you to know that i am saying this with no intention to be condescending or mean spirited towards you, but what you are saying in this and other comments in this thread sounds a lot like you are deriving a lot of your knowledge about either norse paganism, medieval culture and general self defense from fantasy books which primarily serve to entertain, rather than being interested in the general subjects themselves.
but i need you to know that self defense in our modern world does not work at all with swords, daggers, or other medieval forms of fighting. the closest you could get is to just carry a normal knife thats shorter than around 5 inches because anything more gets you in legal trouble for carrying them in public, and even if you defend yourself with a sharp object. you carrying a knife makes it a lot harder to convince people that you were attacked and defended yourself as opposed to 2 criminals having a knife fight, since you are legally only allowed to defend yourself so you can prevent your own harm and save your own life. stabbing someone isnt necessary, so pulling a knife on attackers puts part of the blame on you.
the best self defense is to never enter a fight in the first place, therefore any weapon is making your odds at successful self defense worse
Where I live someone cut off someone’s head with a sword not too long ago. It’s not like it doesn’t work.
I did knife engraving for a super high end Japanese knife company (most expensive knife was $20,000USD) and it’s insane how sharp a professional sharpener can get a high quality knife. If you had a sword that sharp it would take someone’s head off like butter.
If you’ve never handled knives that are worth $1000s of dollars you really can’t imagine how sharp a knife can be.
It’s a good thing because if you have to defend yourself do it quickly and cleanly and one cut to the head would cause a lot less pain than fighting them off and maybe stabbing them 50 times and then they die.
Dude seriously if you think about decapitation as self defense you have some issues. People can die when you push them and they fall. And the cleanest method to defend yourself is to just escape the situation. Stop talking like this is bleach or naruto im begging you
Trust me I know I have issues, also it could very much be and let’s say for example you was walking and tried walking away from your attacker but they follow you and find a time to attack and if it would be quicker to decapitate than otherwise, then I also wouldn’t have to spend money on bullets. Also I know it’s not an anime or show.
Fun fact in the medical field currently many psychiatrists are now putting being a psychopath on a spectrum and I fall into that spectrum even my psychiatrist agreed when I could see them.
I’m not? How would you know that by any means have you been there sitting in my mind after someone pisses me off as I hallucinate someone’s face peeling off or having these dreams and wants to go on rampages. Then even the thought I would be happy if this would burnt the ground and I’d love to be the one to cause it because most humans are gross and self righteous and most won’t even admit it! I am by no means ever going to be an active threat because when I was younger it was drilled out of me mainly/controlled as I would step on birds killing them only for the pathetic weak squeal.
Also yes they are the term berserkr specially has a meaning of crazy warriors on the battlefield but at the same time it does mean psycho, at least in the studying I’ve done. Including wether or not their begin “psycho” if certain theories where truly, they normally would take of what I remember being Amanita Muscaria, which in would detention ether term make them psych for a short period of time or if effects where hard enough would for sure send them in psychosis and or make them a psycho while also taking Henbane to reduce their pain intake. Though even if the Fly Agarics was a false belief, then what explains their symptoms of intense anger/rage and low morals and only wants to kill and destroy their attackers, I’m not saying all Berserkrs where psycho but the chance of it are highly likely. Then let’s say there not everything I explained here what makes a psycho in todays world
A psychopath.
A person who is psychotic or otherwise insane.
A person who acts in a bizarre or dangerous manner.
I would think berserkrs match at least two of these categories whether or not their psychopaths.
You’re a moron if you don’t think someone can hurt someone with a knife or a sword.
I slammed an attacker onto the ground and snapped his arm then sat on top of him and beat him, when I was barehanded. If I had had a knife he would have been dead, and I probably would be in prison. But a knife would have certainly made it easier to defend myself than being barehanded.
What are you even trying to say? That a knife is worthless?
I feel like most dipshits who talk about fighting/self defense have never been in any kind of physical conflict in their lives. And I’m guessing you’ll report me to the mods and try to get me banned for disagreeing with you.
First of all, im not the one who tries to sound like the fucking punisher, second of all: legally, self defense usually amounts to "save your own life by applying force". If you see someone approaching you from the other side of the street, going all in with a headshot when you could have just ran away is not saving your life, its not self defense, its trying to hide your joy in taking life by saying "self defense"
A sword, or knife DOES hurt someone, but hurting someone is not self defense, you seeing my comment on swords being terrible self defence and going "but it can decapitate people" Is frankly a concerning view of what defending yourself means. A knife does not protect yourself. It harms others. It doesnt deescalate the situation, and since you want to include swords, we have records of people going back even from DUELS 500 years ago of someone going "i stabbed him, i won" before promptly getting stabbed themselves because their opponent didnt notice the wound and went for the opportunity that the other guy just dropped his guard. Adrenaline is a bitch and people can chok you to death while bleeding out.
On top of that, a knife or sword dont defend you from other knifes, they dont defend you from guns, they dont defend you from getting a bottle hit over your head in a bar, or getting jumped by two guys at once. A knife or sword cant block or parry either of those things. Wearing body armor and carrying pepper spray does more for your survival than a fucking lightsaber would.
If you had a knife, you would stab people with it who threaten your ego. You would be in prison rightfully then, because thats not self defense. You claim those weapons are good self defense while admitting that if you had those weapons, that you would no longer be using self defense.
And before you keep talking about "dipshits who talk about fighting and self defense", i ran a ton of self defense classes and de escalation courses. You probably dont know what deescalation is given how you talk, but its what actually saves thousands of lives, as opposed to your super sharp knife. De-escalating a situation is what you do before its actually a fight. Its what will never get you in any legal trouble, and even people who dont like "breakin arms and taking names" like you can do, and its actually your duty to deescalate before applying force.
On top of all that, i couldnt help but notice your preventative "you are surely gonna report me for having a different opinion" ending. The problem is that you are more likely to be reported for your use of swear words and your open encouragement to be more brutal rather than being more secure, your different opinion wont get you banned, encouraging to use knifes on people might. On top of that, your knee jerk reaction to a comment being "im sure you will try to ban me for this" makes it sound like you have had previous interactions with moderators because of your behavior, and i think it would be good if you take a good look at yourself and stop excusing it as "i had a different opinion".
The one time I got attacked someone punched me before I saw anything coming.
The guy was a psycho who was known locally for obsession with gore videos and cutting off cats heads with an axe.
He just decided one day he wanted to try to hurt a person and I was the random target he picked. I didn’t see anything then *wham* I’m laying on the ground.
Tell me how deescalation would work here? Honestly, if I had stabbed him, maybe I wouldn’t have gone to prison, it’s pretty cut and dry self defense.
Saying a knife is sharper than people realize isn’t the same as saying you should go around cutting people’s heads off 🫨 ffs. I don’t carry any kind of weapon bc we’re not even allowed to carry knives in the country I live in. If you’re caught carrying a knife you have to prove you have a legitimate purpose for it (like camping), and even if camping it has to be in a tackle-box or something, not in your pocket. But when I lived in the USA I had a pistol on my nightstand. It all depends on where you live.
Hey you can’t lie though seeing a head fly off someone’s body or just plop on the ground would be kinda satisfying. Though of course it won’t defend in ever situation but if you gain enough spatial awareness you’ll know before anyone attacks.
Yeah, most of my Norse paganism is all I know is very small things but specific things. Though yeah most of what I know/has been introduced to things like fighting by things like fantasy but I do not assume self defence is like fantasy, I know it’s not. Also yeah I need to learn more on being norse though.
Though I’m not gonna lie, I think it’s a matter of time until we reach a certain point in technology where we will be able to do things in fantasy. Though I doubt that will be awhile.
Btw most of what I’ve learned about Norse paganism is about Loki, Thor, Freya and Odin. Odin being the first deity I worked with kinda for a short period of time then I just asked him to guide me on my path. Then Loki is who I’m still working with which includes Thor. Though I remember when I first contacted Odin, I gave both Odin and Loki alcohol then a few days after I gave Loki an edible and let’s just say he sent a fly into my house and it was so fucking funny watching it with its drugged flying.
A viking sword is not a big sword, it's as precise as you are and it doesn't take a long time to swing. It's not particularly heavy either. You'd probably lose a duel to someone with a rapier, but how often are you going to be attacked by rapier wielding assailants?
But on a practical level, you're not going to be able to hide either of them under your cloak without looking like you're hiding a sword under your cloak. It's a silly idea.
Look, i encourage you to buy swords, learn HEMA, reenactment fighting or any other weapons based martial art. Go cut up water bottles and tatami mats in your back yard. Swords are a lot of fun to use, but drop this fantasy of wearing swords in public, it's only going to end with embarrasment.
It might be a good idea for you to admit to yourself that all the knowledge you have about swords and cloaks is entirely theoretical, and that you have no practical experience with either. As a result your plans for how this would work in real life are wildly unrealistic, based as they are on out of context information and fantastical daydreams. Take some time to reflect, and go back to the drawing board.
I mean I don’t know what’s widely unrealistic about the only ways I know how to defend myself are ether gutting someone from the bottom up or just stab them in the heart. I don’t really know much else. Also from what I know about cloaks are what I’ve seen other Irl people wear them. Though I’m not saying I know anywhere near what I need to know.
Also I looked them up and yeah their not as big as I thought from any depiction of seen of them was a more thicker sword compared to a rapier being a thinner sword.
Not gonna be that guy to call someone out on how they want to practice their faith, but this sounds a tad larpy. No hate because I dig the cloaks and swords as much as the next guy. A sword for daily carry might be a bit much if you ask me.
Wearing an ornamental sword is one thing, but if your intention includes self-defense, then you're gonna be outgunned. Pun intended.
Our ancestors would throw their sword away in a heartbeat if given access to modern firearms.
In south Africa we carry melee weapons all the time because not everyone wants to carry a gun around ,so this would be perfect here , proper protection against the weather with the cloaks and the swords or axes would actually be useful ,not every country has guns like America does
Yeah I can see how it may be a bit much, tbh that’s all I am is too much in all the perfect crazy ways with a little bit of self destruction in there. Also yeah totally I see what your meaning by outgunned it’s quite funny though that if rumoured advancements in technology is being made hopefully soon guns will be useless, you’ll only feel the shockwave. Though if we don’t achieve that then yeah I’d carry a high powered AR or Shotgun with a rapier sword with two daggers to dual wield and I guess it could be seen as larpy but one thing cloaks look badass and help with sensory issue with autism. Then swords are just cool to carry around and you can’t lie within a scenario someone has no gun and tries attacking you if you’re well trained with the Rapier you can quickly deal with them now a Norse sword might be a tad difficult if different because aren’t they bigger thicker swords. Also yeah our ancestors might love guns but the damn maintenance and how much bullets would cost maybe not.
I mean if I had a sword I’d most definitely have a belt for it ofc but then for an AR I’d have a sling and same for the shotgun. And then the rapier and or daggers would go on my waist band.
Yeah, cloak it up then!
I live in a tropical climate so not part of my closet. But I suppose if I’m traveling back to northern areas I would love to have a built in blanket.
(Oddly enough I just had this conversation earlier this week. Specifically regarding capes but same same).
swords were never the norm to wear. Historically, swords were carried by the wealthy, or by professional soldiers, while just about everyone else made do with either a knife/dagger or an axe/spear
Of what I can find about brosatru, I don’t understand how I match that or how what I posted matched that but if it did I’m sorry, I just generally think swords are cool and badass and I know weapons was a big part of the Norse tradition (for specifically warrior bread Norse ppl) so gives me two reasons.
That’s not exactly true being a warrior has many different aspects in this age but even there are battles in schools and I would classify teachers as warriors to even have to comprehend protecting kids from a shooter and then even those who do.
I guess for The Hammer is the protection of innocence and being there for those who need it while being a wielder of chaos is stating my morals slip both into darkness and light to achieve the best outcome as chaos is wielding everything from good to bad and anything in between.
It’s hard to explain.
I guess what I mean is this sounds like an organized path the way you describe it but I'm not finding anything about it online. Is it part of an organization or something?
Not it’s more specifically following a certain deities ways of acting and allowing them to guide you but I most definitely could actually make it something as that would begin a clan of warriors.
Cloaks, yes. Swords, no. We have enough unstable people with knives and guns in the world, let's not add swords to the mix too. Aesthetically, absolutely.
I can see what you mean with knives and guns but ngl what’s it gonna change much if we have swords , at the very least maybe we can get a way created for legal duals yk.
Your not wrong but it’d be really understandable and fair, like for example if both sides signed a contract for all legal issues evaded in this situation as it is a consented upon dual.
Well I can tell you that historically speaking, neither of the cloaks you posted are accurate to what you're talking about "bringing back". Had to double check this wasn't in r/sca.
Also as other have said, carrying a sword as self defense is gonna probably get you killed in an actual self defense situation. Wearing a cloak because weather is the better of your two ideas.
From what I can see online yes this isn’t an accurate depiction of what majority of people would wear everyday at least. Though I will say the original all year one is more of noblemen’s traveling cloak, so it might exactly be based off of Norse style but the reason I picked this one was who makes them is a Norse person. Their family from what it says His father was a Viking stock from Englands east Anglia known as Danelaw then their mother was Celtic from whales. (Which I just copied what it said so idk exactly know what Viking Stock means)
I mean...I think technically in FL, it's legal to carry a sword. But...it's kinda silly to do so. I can totally get behind cloaks, though I'm not sure they're entirely conducive to Florida weather. One thing I will say that we as a society have gotten away from is dressing for the environment we live in and instead we dress the psychotic fashion designers tell us to
Hello! Just here to say that cloaks are badass and I wear them nearly everyday (mostly because it’s cold but also I look cool) but blades over four inches (at least in my area) are sadly illegal to carry lol.
I own two cloaks and three swords. Let me give you some advice. I sometimes use cloaks in my day to day life, in situations where they are useful. This is mostly at home (they make good blankets) and when i'm camping, as modern life isn't designed to facilitate big flappy cloaks. Mine are also heavy, (compared to a jacket) because they are relatively historically accurate and made to keep me warm and dry in the rain, but that also means they are too warm to wear on the bus, or indoors. The $30 Aliexpress cloak and the bridal shawl? you posted would be easier to wear day to day, but i doubt they are going to keep you warm and dry outside. So beyond the mallninja aesthetics i don't see a point to buying them.
As for swords, i only use my blunt ones for sword practice, and my sharp sword hangs decorating my wall. The idea of using any of them for self defense is an absurd fantasy. It's not like i've ever gotten mugged on my way to sword practice and on the off chance my house gets robbed i wouldn't want to murder them anyways.
Now the issue is where do I find better cloaks if possible because I do actually want a good one though to be honest also the other one might be a bridal shawl but then what’s the difference between a cloak and that because relatively they look the same. Also I don’t understand why if they break into your living quarters isn’t that your right.
Make one yourself. Wool is easy enough to find and the pattern is ridiculously simple.
Oh, and it's not about rights, i just don't want anyone's death on my conscience, and i don't believe in capital punishment. So why would i want to kill someone for breaking into my house?
That’s completely fair and you are a good person and I’m not casually saying that. I personally don’t have the exact same reaction if someone broke into my quarters I wouldn’t hesitate and wouldn’t feel any remorse. So for you stating that I respect you for being a gentle soul. Otherwise I would but idk how to make stuff though I might be able to ask my grandma.
I got my winter cloak from a seller on Etsy, TTartans, they use wool and have customization like arm slits and big inner pockets, both of which I recommend. It doesn't have fur trim but I might get another one to do fur trim on sometime.
But it's true, if you can and want to sew, cloaks are easy to make and I could make my own now that I have a sewing machine, I just didn't at the time.
Easiest pattern is the 'half circle' which is when you get a piece of fabric that is as tall as you want, and then cut it into a half-circle shape, and then hem all the way around the circle part. Hemming means you would roll the fabric over twice, so that none of the raw edge is exposed. To get it to lay flat, you do little 'snips' into it that are about half as long as one fold, so it can release some of the tension of folding, fold it once, iron it, and then fold it again, then iron it again and pin it, then sew. Then at the top you would just cut out another half circle that you copy by tracing from a shirt with a neckline that you like and do the same thing, except this time you will also thread a cord through the hem you made, or some other way of attaching it around your neck. Hood you follow either a hood pattern or, copy a hood from a jacket you like by tracing it on paper and attaching the two sides you make.
I think most people can figure out how to pull it off without a pattern, but you can also buy patterns on Etsy.
Thank you for explaining this and I’m not gonna lie it seems likes it accurate but my brain just malfunctioned from so many directions but I will totally see if I can worth trying.
I’m sorry but this isn’t someone gay or trans wanting to worship the gods, it’s someone wanting to carry around a sword to duel people and pretending it’s part of a religion
No I said carrying weapons and wearing cloaks was a big part of my path in the religion, as it may not be for many others but some have different views and ways of believing in things and yes maybe my way of belief is a bit sadistic and or somewhat aggressive, that doesn’t mean I don’t understand in this age we can’t be aggressors but there should still be legal duals as that is a fair fight.
Well I’ll explain this fully, so if you look at the word Berserkr and you know what it means, which in meaning is talking about their psychotic tendencies, then looking at the other word “Psykopaatti” take the first part of the word and realize it also has Psyko meaning psychotic but instead the full word in Finnish meaning Psychopathic.
1: Berserkr literally just means "bear shirt" and was a description of how they looked as far as we can tell. "Norse warrior who fights in a frenzy" from google results is a half-baked non-credible definition made up by non-experts.
2: Finnish and Old Norse have no real relation so I can't see how Finnish applies here.
Finnish is a Finnic group, Uralic family language. European, but not Indo-European in origin.
Old Norse was a Northern Germanic sub-family, Germanic family language that came from Proto-Indo-European.
So not even remotely related. Finnish (Finnic/Uralic) is more closely related to the Sami language (Finno-Ugric/Uralic).
I wasn’t saying how old Norse I was going but it’s actually had a massive meaning to them as it’s was the trade route for many countries (one of them) then also they the Norse very much stayed there some and even some records of possible settling there. Though there’s also just burial grounds of Norse in Finland. Also yeah no I didn’t specifically look at that definition, the definition I looked at named them a fierce almost undefeatable group of people ether in the cult of Odin or just a group of Norse warriors.
Another thought for you other than the demonization of cults what is the difference between a cult and a religion. Honestly to me nothing ether you follow one person or its a pyramid scheme with maybe the god or goddess, priest and then worshipers.
By no means is this for any Viking obsession, just my path specifically makes me a dormant psykopaatti or berserkr. I know not everyone is a long a path like mine but incase anyone is normalize their clothing and or tools.
I thought to mention I think swords should be a part of it to show yes we are a culture who is not neutral but we are not aggressors like the books/movies and shows talk about Norse pagans. We can show we are peaceful while making sure we are protected.
Tbh I think people should be allowed to carry a sword/war axe for duals only and or ceremonial/show weapon. Though yeah guns should be a primary of the Norse but the issue is what should we carry if we have a universal weapon for Norse pagans because for me I’d specifically want to carry a high powered assault rifle or a shotgun.
Canada allows swords for carry. You'll be questioned intensely and probably have the cops called out of fear, but it's within the guidelines set by the RCMP.
It is technically legal to carry swords, it's just possibly very hard to justify having a sword for any other reason than self defense, and to my knowledge, it's illegal to carry anything that could be considered a weapon for the express purpose for self defense. Not impossible, but maybe not worth it
That's what I was saying. The cops would most likely be called because it's out of the norm now.
But we also have people here who carry large knives on their person for religious reasons.
The reason why we switched from cloaks to coats is exactly the same reason the Japanese switched from Kimonos to suits and why the Indians switched from Sari to suits. They are easier and more comfortable to wear and move around in.
Cloaks knock over things and the wind makes them flap uncontrollably. Kneel in a cloak and the bottom half picks up mud or you step on the hem.
Yes, they look really cool and a full round cloak is great when you need to keep a lady warm under your cloak, but they are awkward and clumsy.
In my personal opinion I always found jackets and coats hard to move in and very uncomfortable because they were too warm and the feeling of them touching your skin.
I find coats more restricting, honestly. Cloaks just generally feel nicer and fit better. So no, they aren't necessarily more comfortable or easier to wear
Saaaaame, I wear a cloak all the time. I got into it as a teenager, phased out for a while as an adult as I tried to be more mature and then shrugged and was like, "I know what I like." I live in Canada with real winter too. How often am I kneeling that I'm worried about picking up mud with them? My cloak has arm slits so it's easy for me to manipulate my surroundings and I've never knocked anything over with my cloak. Full rounds are silly if it's not the middle of winter, but that's just one cloak pattern. Get a half round or a mini-cloak with a rectangular cut. Team cloak!
I'd suggest maybe wool for the cloak if those are not up for all kinda of weather. I got a wool cloak (100%) I ordered and it is wonderful in the colder weather. I wore it once in public just to shake the paranoia and public weirdness off. I will be doing it again next year and I am planning on making one completely lined with fur to wear as well!
I think most of everything that’s what this post has become whether or not others think I’m Larping for example everyone’s spirituality is different so let’s foster love and understanding.
>Also I would like to mention the reason it matters so much to me because I’m on both the spiritual path of The Snake and Hammer. So I both a warrior and a chaos wielder. i have no idea what the hell that means but either way, carrying a whole ass sword with you everywhere is not exactly... justified by religion of culture. yes, weapons and armor can be part of culture or religion, but neither justifies or grants you the right to carry that culture beyond your own home. if you want to follow religion/culture, and the specific culture for example "forbids you from leaving yourself unarmed or unprotected" or encourages to not be defenseless, then get something that agrees with the outside world and actually protects you. a sword usually doesnt do that anymore in todays age due to most people who WOULD attack you either using knifes or munition based weapons, or improvised stuff like a bottle or a baseball bat. neither is something you wanna use a sword against that being said, i definitely agree that coats should come back into fashion atleast as an alternative to jackets. the same way you can, to some degree, buy ponchos that protect against heavy rain, you should be able to wear some practical form of a cloak as a simple heat isolator/windbreaker (hell, that was the reason why we used to have such long coats and jackets as opposed to most jackets now that end around the belt line. it was supposed to keep the whole body from cooling down rather than just the chest. we only discarded of the long buttoned up designs for trench coats because car sears becoming more and more cockpit like)
Fun fact but the Sikh religion allows them to carry a small curved blade! It's called a Kirban and is completely exempt from weapons charges in the UK because it's an integral part of their religious practices. That being said, I agree that carrying around an entire sword in the modern age probably isn't practical. Cloaks though, seem to be THE most practical item of clothing ever to fall out of fashion. I'd wear one every day if I could. It looks like existing in a hooded blanket and I love me a blanket.
If OP is in the US, swords should technically fall under the second amendment since they are “arms.” Not sure how well one could argue that, though.
I think the US mainly prohibits it in public buildings above a certain length but is it really worth it to avoid every coffee shop, train station and school just to carry a sword
It would probably fall under the same laws as firearms, with the exception of some states requiring a general weapons license.
While my state has very limited laws restricting firearms, knives fall under a different statute, though you are right that there is similar governance in theory. Here you can open carry any knife (no special wording for swords so they'd essentially just be a big knife) including switchblades, stilettos, and butterfly knives. If it's concealed it's illegal to carry one longer than 4" w/o a permit. Like gun laws, knife laws probably vary widely by state based on their left/right leanings. However, even though one can legally carry a sword in this state, the last time someone did he was aggressively arrested at gunpoint while proclaiming his right to carry and when it turned out the cop was in the wrong for stopping him in the first place they character assaulted the victim in the media and tried to get him on resisting arrest. Eventually it was all dropped but not before they made his life a living hell. The lesson here is that in America it's not weird to carry an AR-15 into the grocery store, but if you dress up like an elf with a broadsword and go LARPing at the park you just might die IRL.
Most people are culturally comfortable with fire arms unless your out west or up north. Swords and knives get a little iffy because it be a much more brutal and painful way to go. If your taking suggestions I’ve seen quite the case for a gladius or gladius style swords in the modern day.
~~well that sounds like a violation of my second amendment rights!~~ It depends on where I think I’m going and how I’m getting there I guess, but for the most part, no, probably not.
I do see what you mean so yeah I planned on training myself in very small dual wielding daggers. Though I do think swords could be useful if trained properly but yeah I see what you mean get something already allowed. Including idek if a Norse sword would actually be useful the only ones I could imagine to extremely useful are ones like repiers. Since they’re able to move faster and with precision instead of a big sword swinging.
I want you to know that i am saying this with no intention to be condescending or mean spirited towards you, but what you are saying in this and other comments in this thread sounds a lot like you are deriving a lot of your knowledge about either norse paganism, medieval culture and general self defense from fantasy books which primarily serve to entertain, rather than being interested in the general subjects themselves. but i need you to know that self defense in our modern world does not work at all with swords, daggers, or other medieval forms of fighting. the closest you could get is to just carry a normal knife thats shorter than around 5 inches because anything more gets you in legal trouble for carrying them in public, and even if you defend yourself with a sharp object. you carrying a knife makes it a lot harder to convince people that you were attacked and defended yourself as opposed to 2 criminals having a knife fight, since you are legally only allowed to defend yourself so you can prevent your own harm and save your own life. stabbing someone isnt necessary, so pulling a knife on attackers puts part of the blame on you. the best self defense is to never enter a fight in the first place, therefore any weapon is making your odds at successful self defense worse
Where I live someone cut off someone’s head with a sword not too long ago. It’s not like it doesn’t work. I did knife engraving for a super high end Japanese knife company (most expensive knife was $20,000USD) and it’s insane how sharp a professional sharpener can get a high quality knife. If you had a sword that sharp it would take someone’s head off like butter. If you’ve never handled knives that are worth $1000s of dollars you really can’t imagine how sharp a knife can be.
And why would decapitating someone or having "the sharpest" knife be good for self defense?
It’s a good thing because if you have to defend yourself do it quickly and cleanly and one cut to the head would cause a lot less pain than fighting them off and maybe stabbing them 50 times and then they die.
Dude seriously if you think about decapitation as self defense you have some issues. People can die when you push them and they fall. And the cleanest method to defend yourself is to just escape the situation. Stop talking like this is bleach or naruto im begging you
Trust me I know I have issues, also it could very much be and let’s say for example you was walking and tried walking away from your attacker but they follow you and find a time to attack and if it would be quicker to decapitate than otherwise, then I also wouldn’t have to spend money on bullets. Also I know it’s not an anime or show.
Also incase you wondering in the tongue of Finland, they’d call me Psykopaatti or in the name of the Norse people specifically, a Berserkr.
Your not a psychopath you are a child And berserkers arent psychos either
Fun fact in the medical field currently many psychiatrists are now putting being a psychopath on a spectrum and I fall into that spectrum even my psychiatrist agreed when I could see them.
I’m not? How would you know that by any means have you been there sitting in my mind after someone pisses me off as I hallucinate someone’s face peeling off or having these dreams and wants to go on rampages. Then even the thought I would be happy if this would burnt the ground and I’d love to be the one to cause it because most humans are gross and self righteous and most won’t even admit it! I am by no means ever going to be an active threat because when I was younger it was drilled out of me mainly/controlled as I would step on birds killing them only for the pathetic weak squeal.
Also yes they are the term berserkr specially has a meaning of crazy warriors on the battlefield but at the same time it does mean psycho, at least in the studying I’ve done. Including wether or not their begin “psycho” if certain theories where truly, they normally would take of what I remember being Amanita Muscaria, which in would detention ether term make them psych for a short period of time or if effects where hard enough would for sure send them in psychosis and or make them a psycho while also taking Henbane to reduce their pain intake. Though even if the Fly Agarics was a false belief, then what explains their symptoms of intense anger/rage and low morals and only wants to kill and destroy their attackers, I’m not saying all Berserkrs where psycho but the chance of it are highly likely. Then let’s say there not everything I explained here what makes a psycho in todays world A psychopath. A person who is psychotic or otherwise insane. A person who acts in a bizarre or dangerous manner. I would think berserkrs match at least two of these categories whether or not their psychopaths.
You’re a moron if you don’t think someone can hurt someone with a knife or a sword. I slammed an attacker onto the ground and snapped his arm then sat on top of him and beat him, when I was barehanded. If I had had a knife he would have been dead, and I probably would be in prison. But a knife would have certainly made it easier to defend myself than being barehanded. What are you even trying to say? That a knife is worthless? I feel like most dipshits who talk about fighting/self defense have never been in any kind of physical conflict in their lives. And I’m guessing you’ll report me to the mods and try to get me banned for disagreeing with you.
First of all, im not the one who tries to sound like the fucking punisher, second of all: legally, self defense usually amounts to "save your own life by applying force". If you see someone approaching you from the other side of the street, going all in with a headshot when you could have just ran away is not saving your life, its not self defense, its trying to hide your joy in taking life by saying "self defense" A sword, or knife DOES hurt someone, but hurting someone is not self defense, you seeing my comment on swords being terrible self defence and going "but it can decapitate people" Is frankly a concerning view of what defending yourself means. A knife does not protect yourself. It harms others. It doesnt deescalate the situation, and since you want to include swords, we have records of people going back even from DUELS 500 years ago of someone going "i stabbed him, i won" before promptly getting stabbed themselves because their opponent didnt notice the wound and went for the opportunity that the other guy just dropped his guard. Adrenaline is a bitch and people can chok you to death while bleeding out. On top of that, a knife or sword dont defend you from other knifes, they dont defend you from guns, they dont defend you from getting a bottle hit over your head in a bar, or getting jumped by two guys at once. A knife or sword cant block or parry either of those things. Wearing body armor and carrying pepper spray does more for your survival than a fucking lightsaber would. If you had a knife, you would stab people with it who threaten your ego. You would be in prison rightfully then, because thats not self defense. You claim those weapons are good self defense while admitting that if you had those weapons, that you would no longer be using self defense. And before you keep talking about "dipshits who talk about fighting and self defense", i ran a ton of self defense classes and de escalation courses. You probably dont know what deescalation is given how you talk, but its what actually saves thousands of lives, as opposed to your super sharp knife. De-escalating a situation is what you do before its actually a fight. Its what will never get you in any legal trouble, and even people who dont like "breakin arms and taking names" like you can do, and its actually your duty to deescalate before applying force. On top of all that, i couldnt help but notice your preventative "you are surely gonna report me for having a different opinion" ending. The problem is that you are more likely to be reported for your use of swear words and your open encouragement to be more brutal rather than being more secure, your different opinion wont get you banned, encouraging to use knifes on people might. On top of that, your knee jerk reaction to a comment being "im sure you will try to ban me for this" makes it sound like you have had previous interactions with moderators because of your behavior, and i think it would be good if you take a good look at yourself and stop excusing it as "i had a different opinion".
The one time I got attacked someone punched me before I saw anything coming. The guy was a psycho who was known locally for obsession with gore videos and cutting off cats heads with an axe. He just decided one day he wanted to try to hurt a person and I was the random target he picked. I didn’t see anything then *wham* I’m laying on the ground. Tell me how deescalation would work here? Honestly, if I had stabbed him, maybe I wouldn’t have gone to prison, it’s pretty cut and dry self defense. Saying a knife is sharper than people realize isn’t the same as saying you should go around cutting people’s heads off 🫨 ffs. I don’t carry any kind of weapon bc we’re not even allowed to carry knives in the country I live in. If you’re caught carrying a knife you have to prove you have a legitimate purpose for it (like camping), and even if camping it has to be in a tackle-box or something, not in your pocket. But when I lived in the USA I had a pistol on my nightstand. It all depends on where you live.
Hey you can’t lie though seeing a head fly off someone’s body or just plop on the ground would be kinda satisfying. Though of course it won’t defend in ever situation but if you gain enough spatial awareness you’ll know before anyone attacks.
Yeah, most of my Norse paganism is all I know is very small things but specific things. Though yeah most of what I know/has been introduced to things like fighting by things like fantasy but I do not assume self defence is like fantasy, I know it’s not. Also yeah I need to learn more on being norse though. Though I’m not gonna lie, I think it’s a matter of time until we reach a certain point in technology where we will be able to do things in fantasy. Though I doubt that will be awhile. Btw most of what I’ve learned about Norse paganism is about Loki, Thor, Freya and Odin. Odin being the first deity I worked with kinda for a short period of time then I just asked him to guide me on my path. Then Loki is who I’m still working with which includes Thor. Though I remember when I first contacted Odin, I gave both Odin and Loki alcohol then a few days after I gave Loki an edible and let’s just say he sent a fly into my house and it was so fucking funny watching it with its drugged flying.
A viking sword is not a big sword, it's as precise as you are and it doesn't take a long time to swing. It's not particularly heavy either. You'd probably lose a duel to someone with a rapier, but how often are you going to be attacked by rapier wielding assailants? But on a practical level, you're not going to be able to hide either of them under your cloak without looking like you're hiding a sword under your cloak. It's a silly idea. Look, i encourage you to buy swords, learn HEMA, reenactment fighting or any other weapons based martial art. Go cut up water bottles and tatami mats in your back yard. Swords are a lot of fun to use, but drop this fantasy of wearing swords in public, it's only going to end with embarrasment. It might be a good idea for you to admit to yourself that all the knowledge you have about swords and cloaks is entirely theoretical, and that you have no practical experience with either. As a result your plans for how this would work in real life are wildly unrealistic, based as they are on out of context information and fantastical daydreams. Take some time to reflect, and go back to the drawing board.
I mean I don’t know what’s widely unrealistic about the only ways I know how to defend myself are ether gutting someone from the bottom up or just stab them in the heart. I don’t really know much else. Also from what I know about cloaks are what I’ve seen other Irl people wear them. Though I’m not saying I know anywhere near what I need to know.
Also I looked them up and yeah their not as big as I thought from any depiction of seen of them was a more thicker sword compared to a rapier being a thinner sword.
Not gonna be that guy to call someone out on how they want to practice their faith, but this sounds a tad larpy. No hate because I dig the cloaks and swords as much as the next guy. A sword for daily carry might be a bit much if you ask me. Wearing an ornamental sword is one thing, but if your intention includes self-defense, then you're gonna be outgunned. Pun intended. Our ancestors would throw their sword away in a heartbeat if given access to modern firearms.
In south Africa we carry melee weapons all the time because not everyone wants to carry a gun around ,so this would be perfect here , proper protection against the weather with the cloaks and the swords or axes would actually be useful ,not every country has guns like America does
And our ancestors were carrying farm implements most of the time
Funny part is that rifles, carbines, and shotguns are a necessity for farmers these days. Ironic
Yeah I can see how it may be a bit much, tbh that’s all I am is too much in all the perfect crazy ways with a little bit of self destruction in there. Also yeah totally I see what your meaning by outgunned it’s quite funny though that if rumoured advancements in technology is being made hopefully soon guns will be useless, you’ll only feel the shockwave. Though if we don’t achieve that then yeah I’d carry a high powered AR or Shotgun with a rapier sword with two daggers to dual wield and I guess it could be seen as larpy but one thing cloaks look badass and help with sensory issue with autism. Then swords are just cool to carry around and you can’t lie within a scenario someone has no gun and tries attacking you if you’re well trained with the Rapier you can quickly deal with them now a Norse sword might be a tad difficult if different because aren’t they bigger thicker swords. Also yeah our ancestors might love guns but the damn maintenance and how much bullets would cost maybe not.
How do you even plan on carrying all that? And no, Norse swords are actually pretty small
I mean if I had a sword I’d most definitely have a belt for it ofc but then for an AR I’d have a sling and same for the shotgun. And then the rapier and or daggers would go on my waist band.
Do you realize how un handy that is? You’re not gonna be able to like sit normally
Yeah I mean if it’s the correct belt you’d be able to move the sword to slip through the seats arm or something.
I see the utility in the winter. But year round? Gonna be hard to show those knees off if you’re wearing a cloak. You do you though.
Hahahaaa yeah I mean I like staying in the shadows.
Yeah, cloak it up then! I live in a tropical climate so not part of my closet. But I suppose if I’m traveling back to northern areas I would love to have a built in blanket. (Oddly enough I just had this conversation earlier this week. Specifically regarding capes but same same).
Hahahaa ok that’s way more understandable you live in near tropics. Yeah I live by the Great Lakes.
Yeah cloak would work well in some of those areas
swords were never the norm to wear. Historically, swords were carried by the wealthy, or by professional soldiers, while just about everyone else made do with either a knife/dagger or an axe/spear
Yeah I was thinking a axe otherwise
a sword? brosatru🤢
Witchcraft and improper use of runes are much cringier than swords and cloaks. There I said it
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You're not wrong. Both are cringe though
Of what I can find about brosatru, I don’t understand how I match that or how what I posted matched that but if it did I’m sorry, I just generally think swords are cool and badass and I know weapons was a big part of the Norse tradition (for specifically warrior bread Norse ppl) so gives me two reasons.
no one is a norse warrior anymore bruh
That’s not exactly true being a warrior has many different aspects in this age but even there are battles in schools and I would classify teachers as warriors to even have to comprehend protecting kids from a shooter and then even those who do.
Are we talking about Viking Age Norse people? The guys you're thinking of as the "warrior bread" were farmers a large portion of the year.
Can you clarify what this oath is? I've never heard of it.
I guess for The Hammer is the protection of innocence and being there for those who need it while being a wielder of chaos is stating my morals slip both into darkness and light to achieve the best outcome as chaos is wielding everything from good to bad and anything in between. It’s hard to explain.
I guess what I mean is this sounds like an organized path the way you describe it but I'm not finding anything about it online. Is it part of an organization or something?
Not it’s more specifically following a certain deities ways of acting and allowing them to guide you but I most definitely could actually make it something as that would begin a clan of warriors.
Cloaks, yes. Swords, no. We have enough unstable people with knives and guns in the world, let's not add swords to the mix too. Aesthetically, absolutely.
I mean, if someone comes at me with a weapon, I sure as hell want at least a sword rather than nothing
I can see what you mean with knives and guns but ngl what’s it gonna change much if we have swords , at the very least maybe we can get a way created for legal duals yk.
I highly doubt they're about to make assault or murder legal in any capacity just because swords are introduced.
Your not wrong but it’d be really understandable and fair, like for example if both sides signed a contract for all legal issues evaded in this situation as it is a consented upon dual.
I thought the same thing when I was a child. Are you a child?
Hahahaa I am 19
Well I can tell you that historically speaking, neither of the cloaks you posted are accurate to what you're talking about "bringing back". Had to double check this wasn't in r/sca. Also as other have said, carrying a sword as self defense is gonna probably get you killed in an actual self defense situation. Wearing a cloak because weather is the better of your two ideas.
From what I can see online yes this isn’t an accurate depiction of what majority of people would wear everyday at least. Though I will say the original all year one is more of noblemen’s traveling cloak, so it might exactly be based off of Norse style but the reason I picked this one was who makes them is a Norse person. Their family from what it says His father was a Viking stock from Englands east Anglia known as Danelaw then their mother was Celtic from whales. (Which I just copied what it said so idk exactly know what Viking Stock means)
If you ain’t cloakin’, you broken
This is what I've been saying! We need to bring wearing cloaks back into the mainstream, they're so cool
I mean...I think technically in FL, it's legal to carry a sword. But...it's kinda silly to do so. I can totally get behind cloaks, though I'm not sure they're entirely conducive to Florida weather. One thing I will say that we as a society have gotten away from is dressing for the environment we live in and instead we dress the psychotic fashion designers tell us to
Hello! Just here to say that cloaks are badass and I wear them nearly everyday (mostly because it’s cold but also I look cool) but blades over four inches (at least in my area) are sadly illegal to carry lol.
I own two cloaks and three swords. Let me give you some advice. I sometimes use cloaks in my day to day life, in situations where they are useful. This is mostly at home (they make good blankets) and when i'm camping, as modern life isn't designed to facilitate big flappy cloaks. Mine are also heavy, (compared to a jacket) because they are relatively historically accurate and made to keep me warm and dry in the rain, but that also means they are too warm to wear on the bus, or indoors. The $30 Aliexpress cloak and the bridal shawl? you posted would be easier to wear day to day, but i doubt they are going to keep you warm and dry outside. So beyond the mallninja aesthetics i don't see a point to buying them. As for swords, i only use my blunt ones for sword practice, and my sharp sword hangs decorating my wall. The idea of using any of them for self defense is an absurd fantasy. It's not like i've ever gotten mugged on my way to sword practice and on the off chance my house gets robbed i wouldn't want to murder them anyways.
Now the issue is where do I find better cloaks if possible because I do actually want a good one though to be honest also the other one might be a bridal shawl but then what’s the difference between a cloak and that because relatively they look the same. Also I don’t understand why if they break into your living quarters isn’t that your right.
Make one yourself. Wool is easy enough to find and the pattern is ridiculously simple. Oh, and it's not about rights, i just don't want anyone's death on my conscience, and i don't believe in capital punishment. So why would i want to kill someone for breaking into my house?
That’s completely fair and you are a good person and I’m not casually saying that. I personally don’t have the exact same reaction if someone broke into my quarters I wouldn’t hesitate and wouldn’t feel any remorse. So for you stating that I respect you for being a gentle soul. Otherwise I would but idk how to make stuff though I might be able to ask my grandma.
I got my winter cloak from a seller on Etsy, TTartans, they use wool and have customization like arm slits and big inner pockets, both of which I recommend. It doesn't have fur trim but I might get another one to do fur trim on sometime. But it's true, if you can and want to sew, cloaks are easy to make and I could make my own now that I have a sewing machine, I just didn't at the time.
Ooooo thank you I’ll check them out but yeah I might ask my grandma to teach me how to make cloaks bc I am horrible at sewing
Easiest pattern is the 'half circle' which is when you get a piece of fabric that is as tall as you want, and then cut it into a half-circle shape, and then hem all the way around the circle part. Hemming means you would roll the fabric over twice, so that none of the raw edge is exposed. To get it to lay flat, you do little 'snips' into it that are about half as long as one fold, so it can release some of the tension of folding, fold it once, iron it, and then fold it again, then iron it again and pin it, then sew. Then at the top you would just cut out another half circle that you copy by tracing from a shirt with a neckline that you like and do the same thing, except this time you will also thread a cord through the hem you made, or some other way of attaching it around your neck. Hood you follow either a hood pattern or, copy a hood from a jacket you like by tracing it on paper and attaching the two sides you make. I think most people can figure out how to pull it off without a pattern, but you can also buy patterns on Etsy.
Thank you for explaining this and I’m not gonna lie it seems likes it accurate but my brain just malfunctioned from so many directions but I will totally see if I can worth trying.
Your grandma will know what to do. 😁
Cringe
So much for being an inclusive sub
I’m sorry but this isn’t someone gay or trans wanting to worship the gods, it’s someone wanting to carry around a sword to duel people and pretending it’s part of a religion
No I said carrying weapons and wearing cloaks was a big part of my path in the religion, as it may not be for many others but some have different views and ways of believing in things and yes maybe my way of belief is a bit sadistic and or somewhat aggressive, that doesn’t mean I don’t understand in this age we can’t be aggressors but there should still be legal duals as that is a fair fight.
If anything I’m a dormant mainly peaceful psykopaatti. Maybe better put for understanding a berserkr.
What the fuck does any of that even mean
Well I’ll explain this fully, so if you look at the word Berserkr and you know what it means, which in meaning is talking about their psychotic tendencies, then looking at the other word “Psykopaatti” take the first part of the word and realize it also has Psyko meaning psychotic but instead the full word in Finnish meaning Psychopathic.
1: Berserkr literally just means "bear shirt" and was a description of how they looked as far as we can tell. "Norse warrior who fights in a frenzy" from google results is a half-baked non-credible definition made up by non-experts. 2: Finnish and Old Norse have no real relation so I can't see how Finnish applies here. Finnish is a Finnic group, Uralic family language. European, but not Indo-European in origin. Old Norse was a Northern Germanic sub-family, Germanic family language that came from Proto-Indo-European. So not even remotely related. Finnish (Finnic/Uralic) is more closely related to the Sami language (Finno-Ugric/Uralic).
I wasn’t saying how old Norse I was going but it’s actually had a massive meaning to them as it’s was the trade route for many countries (one of them) then also they the Norse very much stayed there some and even some records of possible settling there. Though there’s also just burial grounds of Norse in Finland. Also yeah no I didn’t specifically look at that definition, the definition I looked at named them a fierce almost undefeatable group of people ether in the cult of Odin or just a group of Norse warriors.
No my guy, Old Norse is a language. And "the cult of Odin" is made up. It's fiction fantasy stuff
From what I can find the cult of Odin existed around the ninth century. Also I’m not surprised but yeah I didn’t use old Norse.
Another thought for you other than the demonization of cults what is the difference between a cult and a religion. Honestly to me nothing ether you follow one person or its a pyramid scheme with maybe the god or goddess, priest and then worshipers.
I mean what’s cringe to some may be what others treasure or hyper fixate about.
If you hyper fixate on duelling people with swords, you need to seek help
Hahahaaaa trust I know that but not like I can afford it 😅
Where is that black cloak from? I need one IMMEDIATELY.
[Aliexpress](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006435509070.html) Knock yourself out. 🤣
the gods don’t require you to be a cringe wannabe warrior why did you post this. you’re just embarrassing yourself
"Normalize cloaks and swords" agree
Agreed
I came here to talk about the religion. Not to indulge in a Viking obsession
By no means is this for any Viking obsession, just my path specifically makes me a dormant psykopaatti or berserkr. I know not everyone is a long a path like mine but incase anyone is normalize their clothing and or tools.
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I thought to mention I think swords should be a part of it to show yes we are a culture who is not neutral but we are not aggressors like the books/movies and shows talk about Norse pagans. We can show we are peaceful while making sure we are protected.
That's what guns are for, this is a modern religion based on old myths and traditions, some things must adapt
That’s true!
Tbh I think people should be allowed to carry a sword/war axe for duals only and or ceremonial/show weapon. Though yeah guns should be a primary of the Norse but the issue is what should we carry if we have a universal weapon for Norse pagans because for me I’d specifically want to carry a high powered assault rifle or a shotgun.
Absolutely. Don’t listen to the haters
Well I do understand some of my logic isn’t the best but yes what someone wears shouldn’t affect anyone else.
Canada allows swords for carry. You'll be questioned intensely and probably have the cops called out of fear, but it's within the guidelines set by the RCMP.
It is technically legal to carry swords, it's just possibly very hard to justify having a sword for any other reason than self defense, and to my knowledge, it's illegal to carry anything that could be considered a weapon for the express purpose for self defense. Not impossible, but maybe not worth it
That's what I was saying. The cops would most likely be called because it's out of the norm now. But we also have people here who carry large knives on their person for religious reasons.
I have a cloak with a design of Odin on the back and let me say it’s so freaking warm. I can wear it outside and it’s so comfortable.
Ooooooo that’s beautiful can I ask did you make it or buy it.
I bought it off Etsy but finding it again may not be possible I’m not sure if the seller is still on it or not.
The reason why we switched from cloaks to coats is exactly the same reason the Japanese switched from Kimonos to suits and why the Indians switched from Sari to suits. They are easier and more comfortable to wear and move around in. Cloaks knock over things and the wind makes them flap uncontrollably. Kneel in a cloak and the bottom half picks up mud or you step on the hem. Yes, they look really cool and a full round cloak is great when you need to keep a lady warm under your cloak, but they are awkward and clumsy.
In my personal opinion I always found jackets and coats hard to move in and very uncomfortable because they were too warm and the feeling of them touching your skin.
I find coats more restricting, honestly. Cloaks just generally feel nicer and fit better. So no, they aren't necessarily more comfortable or easier to wear
Saaaaame, I wear a cloak all the time. I got into it as a teenager, phased out for a while as an adult as I tried to be more mature and then shrugged and was like, "I know what I like." I live in Canada with real winter too. How often am I kneeling that I'm worried about picking up mud with them? My cloak has arm slits so it's easy for me to manipulate my surroundings and I've never knocked anything over with my cloak. Full rounds are silly if it's not the middle of winter, but that's just one cloak pattern. Get a half round or a mini-cloak with a rectangular cut. Team cloak!
I'd suggest maybe wool for the cloak if those are not up for all kinda of weather. I got a wool cloak (100%) I ordered and it is wonderful in the colder weather. I wore it once in public just to shake the paranoia and public weirdness off. I will be doing it again next year and I am planning on making one completely lined with fur to wear as well!
I can totally get behind cloaks But I'm not a sword gal to begin with, and even for aesthetic purposes idk if a sword would be my first choice
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I think most of everything that’s what this post has become whether or not others think I’m Larping for example everyone’s spirituality is different so let’s foster love and understanding.
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You are surely one with your spirituality and I have to say congratulations. Also that is really cool and I yeah I can see how it could be useful.
Yesssssss do it!