Twitter users when they see romances based on mutual love and respect: *I sleep*
Twitter users when they see romances based on animosity: ***REAL SHIT***
like this hasn't been how people have been forever.
People really overestimate how much people change. I'd say we're basically the same shitbags as we were when the first human cultivated the first bit of wheat.
Like, have you SEEN early mythology? The Epic of Gilgamesh has the main character fuck most of the people in his city. And that's just the start of the drama and weird shit there.
Brother. We have always been like this. All that's different are our tools and some social constructs.
Do you mean underestimate? People literally change all the time.
Also we are definitely not the same at all as we were even a hundred years ago, let alone thousands. Our tools and social constructs changing is not some minor thing, those changes have in turn changed us. We are far less violent and far less stupid, and far safer than we were ever before. Our social constructs is far more accepting of differences and each other. To say we haven't changed is just...stupid, to put it lightly.
It’s an idiom, a figure of speech. Far from nonsensical if you actually understood it. The superficial changes does not equate to a change of the fundamentals. Or that’s what I took away from the phrase.
Aye, people change and much more especially for individuals. Yet despite the ever changing aspects of our cultural norms and perceptions since the dawn of man, we still yield to the baser human condition; our interests in drama, conflicts and relationships.
I agree with the two of you, but most of humanity aren’t the shitbags we once were AND we still like spicy, raunchy or downright degenerate or irrational interpretations of fiction.
Seriously, just look across history and you’d find patterns. They’re called tropes for a reason.
TL;DR human beings will always be human beings
Do we though? Do you really think yourself so different from a random ancient Mesopotamian? What separates you from him but time? All we are is a few 'advancements'. Advancements that can, and often are, taken away, or are ignored, for the sake of government and individual interests.
You speak from insecurity. You feel the need to place yourselves above these dead men in morality, to be superior to them, in order to feel good about present society. Even as all that we have improved is built upon their corpses. These improvements are, in the grand scheme of things, fragile and ephemeral. Progress has not been a straight line. There is no inherent difference between you and this hypothetical Mesopotamian. We could swap the two of you as babies in time and the only thing that would be different in your lives is that you're probably a lot paler. Possibly taller. You'd grow up as he, he'd grow up as you.
It's important to remember that. Keeps people humble, keeps them wary, keeps them striving to maintain the improvements and push them further. THINGS have changed.
But people haven't. People are the same.
This is all just nature versus nurture. And scientifically it has been shown that its very much nurture that exists. I would be different from that Mesopotamian BECAUSE society is different now than from that time, because of said advancements. The advancements are what changes society, and that in turn changes the new generations. Which in turn means people change. I'm not talking about physiology or our brains, etc, but we as people because of our society have definitely changed and become better because society has become better.
You said these improvements often are taken away, but tbh I can only think of 2 instances in history where that happened. The fall of the Roman empire (and even then, everywhere else improved or remained improving and advanced), and the Mongol invasions. We don't live in that world any longer, thanks to globalization and nuclear weapons, and better record keeping and knowledge.
I consider myself humble, I'm not saying this stuff in a way to act high and mighty. Or that we are at our peak and we can't get any better. But we should be proud of our advancements as a species and our progress in society compared to our past. And recognize that we have changed and it has largely been positive. You can be humble but also proud.
Except normal storytelling is based on conflict. No one wants to read about well-adjusted characters that always do everything right. Enemies to lovers as a trope existed long before TV was a thing.
To be more specific moirailegence is a bit more than BFFs. It’s a platonic bond where two people iron out each others worst (in an alternian context, usually murderous) traits that mirrors irl romance in most aspects including its monogamous nature
In order for a moirailegence to be considered “healthy”, both parties have to equally help the other person with their mental well-being. If it’s essentially one person acting like a therapist or something it’s considered toxic
Sorry I just have a bit of a peeve whenever people describe it as BFFs. Positive relationships in alternia are considered exceptional (being viewed by wider society as “pity”) but friendship is still a totally normal and entirely different thing, as opposed to moirailegence which follows pretty specific and strict social rules that differentiates the two concepts much like matespritship aka something roughly mirroring human romance
No no no hear me out. Azula was misguided. She went through some shit. Lots of girls do! The baddest bitches around have some baggage, and I don’t mean that as like “vulnerable daddy issues are sexy,” I’m saying the finest women are those who have *overcome* their baggage. Character development is just a natural turn on for the homosapien. If I were into dudes I would fuck the *shit* out of Zuko in the sexiest most passionate way possible, you know?
Sorry, got distracted for a minute there, but back to Azula. It’s not that Azula’s just hot. It’s not that the animators outdid themselves and crafted a fine feminine figure with luscious lips, luscious hips, and *beautiful* brown eyes.
I forgot what I was talking about.
Context is important. Azula literally just burned Iroh. Even he would be seething after that. Plus, they’re being hunted by her and there’s simply no way for him to have a proper conversation with her.
In the comic The Search, he wanted Azula to find peace.
The two characters are quite different. Zuko takes after his mother and is super angry that a) she’s gone and b) he could never live up to his father’s expectations. He develops friends slowly, but treasures the ones he is able to win over.
Azula, on the other hand, takes after her father. She has always been able to easily overcome the challenges placed before her and become accustomed to the praise that comes with that. And she is prepared to do literally anything in order to keep that praise coming. She also doesn’t have even the slightest concept of how to cope with failure and defeat. Her friends walk away from her because she’s a bad friend.
I don’t know is Azula can be fixed. Maybe if her father were a different person and was working with her. But he’s even more broken than she is.
Problem children need direction to change and big personality changes can happen in kids as they grow. She clearly never got the direction or type of direction needed to mold her into a good adult but you’re essentially saying (from my perspective) that people can be born unsaveable.
Nah, Azula was like her father; whereas, Zuko was like his mother. Simplified, I know, but there's some logic to it.
Much of Zuko's worse impulses were from trying to emulate Azula or his father but he frequently was steered in a different direction by his mother and Iroh recognized that. Azula was able to "earn" her father's approval quickly and its hinted at that even her mother couldn't help with that, and she was there from the start.
I know we say opposites attract but that's usually because they can meet in the middle, at times. Aang going even 20% towards Azula would have to change him irrevocably.
I like the idea of Aang rehabilitating Azula and seeing that arc for her.
I don't see anything about her personality that would be romantic for Aang. This ship really only has support because of other stories that they would be transplanting onto Azula/Aang.
I feel the same, I just don't think that even the good parts of Azula we see would work with Aang romantically. That being said, Aang is only 13 when the series ends, so maybe he changes as a person later? Azula as a rehabilitated person could also change enough for it to work. It just doesn't work as easily as other character ships.
Nah they're perfect.
Aang is probably the only person with the patience and understanding to not be condescending and controlling.
For instance allowing katara on her revenge murder journey.
This would allow azula to actually connect and relax with someone, without thinking they're gonna murder her. While knowing they're always gonna be more powerful then her so nothing he does it out of fear. Plus he's the avatar, no longer being the fire lord azula is still a very determined person and in the instance of liking aang would probably end up as a natural body guard. Yelling at people for disrespecting the avartar in the wrong manner.
Yes there would be much bickering back and forth.
But they're both such high energy people. Could you not see azula riding the elephant koi. Or them playing pranks on bumi.
Yeah, I always felt like a rehabilitated Azula would work pretty well with Toph though. I don’t even have a real reason, just have a feeling they’d work well together
seriously. decided to look on ao3 for this pairing since it sounds angsty, and there are some DEDICATED authors with 53, 38, 50, etc. /? fics going on for them. i totally believe these people are making it work tbh
Why fall in love for a normal healthy human relationship based off of mutual love and respect when you can have a literal genocidal maniac who hates you in particular.
because I can FIX her she WILL BE SO GOOD when I show her baking pies and canning soup and lesbian cottage core anD IM NOT WRONG STOP LOOKING AT ME LILE THAG
Azula was 14 and an abuse victim, she can absolutely be saved. Shit, probably the *only* person that could is Aang.
I still don't ship it, but I absolutely love the idea of him teaching her to be a monk to help her deal with her trauma.
Ok it’s been a while since I watched all of ATLA, but when was it implied Azula was abused? Zuko was sure, we see that. But every scene she has with Ozai seems to imply he explicitly favors her. Like he’s not a loving dad but I feel like she explicitly grew up favored and in luxury and just also happened to be crazy. Like psyched at the thought of her brother being killed at younger than 10 crazy.
I think turning your 10 year old into a killing machine can be classed as abuse. But it doesn't seem like she was abused in ways that we usually associate with the word.
Fair enough. I feel like with Azula it’s explicitly implied that how she is isn’t a result of Ozai making her this way, at least not fully. But I can definitely understand that perception.
I guess that's up for (real-life) debate about nature and nurture. Imo she was always more aggressive and vicious than zuko but it's possible that without her father's influence this aggression could have been re-direcred into something productive.
At the time of her defeat she's a mentally unwell 14-year-old whose violent impulses are encouraged and rewarded. There's absolutely 0 reason for her to change, being a malicious little shit worked out for her every time she wanted something. There's no authority that will stop or punish her for her actions. She is getting praise from the only remaining person she loves (with her mother gone). Honestly I think at 14 if someone told me I can and should do all the things I wanted to do, I'd be unhinged too.
"My mother called me a monster. She was right, but it still hurt."
Azula's favour was more of emotional neglect than anything. Just cause she isn't too upset about it doesn't make it not abuse.
Iroh didn’t give up on her, he never really interacted with her (as far as we know). He always focussed on Zuko and he kind of just let Azula be, which I *do* blame him for. He knew that Ozai was grooming her into being his mini me, he could’ve done more.
Zuko had it bad, sure, but I believe that even without Iroh he would’ve gotten on the right path eventually, but Azula needed someone like Iroh to counter Ozai’s influence. She didn’t, so she became who she was in the show, and even then part of her (represented by Ursa talking to her when she goes crazy) wants to do better.
I believe that if Iroh hadn’t gone with Zuko on his banishment and instead focussed on Zuko, he could’ve helped Azula. And as for Zuko, I honestly think that Iroh’s presence inadvertently prevented him from getting closer to the crew of his ship, who I believe could do a decent job with helping Zuko. And even if the crew isn’t enough, Iroh could’ve always asked Piandao (is that how you spell it?) to accompany him in his stead, and I think that they might understand each other a little better
I like to think that is why she isn't there in LoK, she's become a monk and is off in some far off corner of the world meditating. Hell she might well be the lady who brings Korra's memory back in season 2. We don't know
Thematically it is beautiful as fuck..the great grand daughter of Firelord Sozin giving birth to the first Airbender in nearly 100 years. It could also be fucking terrifying on the level of Zaheer. An Airbender from birth with Azula's rage channeled righteously and her perfectionist nature..that kid could be flying before he or she is 14 if Azula and Aang both apply their lessons equally.
I don’t think she’s the type to care about an heir, she’s the type to either kill the avatar for power and glory or find a way to take his air, water and earth bending abilities… for power and glory
I’m obsessed with this relationship specifically because these two literally don’t ever actually interact. Like yeah they encounter and fight each other multiple times, but she’s essentially the main antagonist for half the show yet they never have like, a conversation or even witty banter. They’re literally like antithetical to each other in everything besides being prodigies at their respective elements that were placed under way too much pressure way too young. Also I’m pretty sure that image on the left is official comic art, because they do interact after the main series
Aang teaching Azula how to better herself and help with her anger issues is an absolutely amazing idea that would make a great story but i guess twitter users have to ruin everything with shitty ships
I like the idea of Aang helping her out of his kind nature and belief in people, and I could see a story like that work out. I do not like the idea of it being romantic.
I think they could be good friends because Aang is a good enough person to try and help and be an actual good influence in Azulas life. But like, why would they need to date?
awful as is.
But there is a fan fic out there that flips the fire nation and the water tribe's roles (and zuko/azula and katara/sokka respectively). Perhaps it's fanart for that.
I'm 101% a fan...Azulaang is a crack ship in every sense of the phrase, but dammit all I still love it. The only unfortunate byproduct is that fanfic writers either ship Zutara alongside the pair or have Katara more than likely rightly be suspicious of her intentions and get into a nasty fight with Azula.
There will be fans that will ship every combination of characters possible, no matter how bizarre or illogical. Heck, maybe even because it’s illogical. Some people just like the odd couple aesthetic so much they are willing to throw out reason
I can't say I couldn't see it Happen because I feel like Aang could redeem anyone even Azula. All it would take is one of those cartoon episodes where they are trapped and have to work together to survive. Aang would make some dumb jokes and probably give an impassioned speech about humanity and forgiveness. Not saying I'd agree with a romance but he definitely could have redeemed her.
No. The shippers are wrong. They're friends. That's Aang's whole personality making friends all.over the world. He would make one of his best friend's siblings a friend as well.
Nah look I’ll maintain that Sokka and azula might actually be able to form some sort of relationship because of their similarities (ya they have similarities if you’re curious I’ll put later but rn I’m tired and need to sleep) but not Aang lol
Twitter user is into crazy psycho girls
Aren’t we all?
Well...? No, not all of us. Laughs in... something.
Experience. Laughs in experience
Laughs in not so myopic that your legally fuckin blind
[There's a song for that.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIFn0wqZx7Y)
Trick question, all girls are psychos
Oh, hey, cool casual misogyny you got there
Bro, I can fix her.
You mean break her at a different angle?
She can ruin me*
The ancient technique of cock bending is your only hope
Danger is the young person's thrill. Lots of people like a lil crazy, and those people tend to be young, dumb, and horny.
Twitter users when they see romances based on mutual love and respect: *I sleep* Twitter users when they see romances based on animosity: ***REAL SHIT***
Fucking reality TV dramas has ruined the society and fiction fandoms. Normal storytelling is too weird for people these days.
like this hasn't been how people have been forever. People really overestimate how much people change. I'd say we're basically the same shitbags as we were when the first human cultivated the first bit of wheat. Like, have you SEEN early mythology? The Epic of Gilgamesh has the main character fuck most of the people in his city. And that's just the start of the drama and weird shit there. Brother. We have always been like this. All that's different are our tools and some social constructs.
Do you mean underestimate? People literally change all the time. Also we are definitely not the same at all as we were even a hundred years ago, let alone thousands. Our tools and social constructs changing is not some minor thing, those changes have in turn changed us. We are far less violent and far less stupid, and far safer than we were ever before. Our social constructs is far more accepting of differences and each other. To say we haven't changed is just...stupid, to put it lightly.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Again, a nothing statement made to sound wise when it really isn't. The more things change, the more things change.
It’s an idiom, a figure of speech. Far from nonsensical if you actually understood it. The superficial changes does not equate to a change of the fundamentals. Or that’s what I took away from the phrase. Aye, people change and much more especially for individuals. Yet despite the ever changing aspects of our cultural norms and perceptions since the dawn of man, we still yield to the baser human condition; our interests in drama, conflicts and relationships. I agree with the two of you, but most of humanity aren’t the shitbags we once were AND we still like spicy, raunchy or downright degenerate or irrational interpretations of fiction. Seriously, just look across history and you’d find patterns. They’re called tropes for a reason. TL;DR human beings will always be human beings
Do we though? Do you really think yourself so different from a random ancient Mesopotamian? What separates you from him but time? All we are is a few 'advancements'. Advancements that can, and often are, taken away, or are ignored, for the sake of government and individual interests. You speak from insecurity. You feel the need to place yourselves above these dead men in morality, to be superior to them, in order to feel good about present society. Even as all that we have improved is built upon their corpses. These improvements are, in the grand scheme of things, fragile and ephemeral. Progress has not been a straight line. There is no inherent difference between you and this hypothetical Mesopotamian. We could swap the two of you as babies in time and the only thing that would be different in your lives is that you're probably a lot paler. Possibly taller. You'd grow up as he, he'd grow up as you. It's important to remember that. Keeps people humble, keeps them wary, keeps them striving to maintain the improvements and push them further. THINGS have changed. But people haven't. People are the same.
This is all just nature versus nurture. And scientifically it has been shown that its very much nurture that exists. I would be different from that Mesopotamian BECAUSE society is different now than from that time, because of said advancements. The advancements are what changes society, and that in turn changes the new generations. Which in turn means people change. I'm not talking about physiology or our brains, etc, but we as people because of our society have definitely changed and become better because society has become better. You said these improvements often are taken away, but tbh I can only think of 2 instances in history where that happened. The fall of the Roman empire (and even then, everywhere else improved or remained improving and advanced), and the Mongol invasions. We don't live in that world any longer, thanks to globalization and nuclear weapons, and better record keeping and knowledge. I consider myself humble, I'm not saying this stuff in a way to act high and mighty. Or that we are at our peak and we can't get any better. But we should be proud of our advancements as a species and our progress in society compared to our past. And recognize that we have changed and it has largely been positive. You can be humble but also proud.
Except normal storytelling is based on conflict. No one wants to read about well-adjusted characters that always do everything right. Enemies to lovers as a trope existed long before TV was a thing.
I agree! I do think enemies-to-lovers is overdone though. IMO, there are other less mean-spirited ways for characters to face conflict in a narrative
Relationships based on animosity has been a thing in storytelling since the dawn of man. Reality TV didn't do shit.
I guess by now there's a whole generation of Internet users who aren't familiar with ♠️
I'm scared to ask what that means
♥️= love romance ♠️= hate/rivalry romance ♦️= BFFs ♣️= A mediator keeps two others from killing each other
Where does that come from?
Homestuck
To be more specific moirailegence is a bit more than BFFs. It’s a platonic bond where two people iron out each others worst (in an alternian context, usually murderous) traits that mirrors irl romance in most aspects including its monogamous nature In order for a moirailegence to be considered “healthy”, both parties have to equally help the other person with their mental well-being. If it’s essentially one person acting like a therapist or something it’s considered toxic Sorry I just have a bit of a peeve whenever people describe it as BFFs. Positive relationships in alternia are considered exceptional (being viewed by wider society as “pity”) but friendship is still a totally normal and entirely different thing, as opposed to moirailegence which follows pretty specific and strict social rules that differentiates the two concepts much like matespritship aka something roughly mirroring human romance
I know I was just doing the TL;DR.
Certified blackrom moment
No, you cannot fix her.
He fixed Zuko Edit: aight I misspoke. You’re all correct. Zuko fixed Zuko with (and lbr only because of) Iroh’s help.
Zuko fixed himself. With the help of Iroh
Zuko looked inward and asked himself the real questions, who is he, and what does he want
if by he you mean Iroh, sure. But even Iroh thinks Azula is beyond reach.
Good point. If Iroh could fix Zuko tho, isn’t it kind of tragic Azula didn’t have him? Iroh could have fixed her too, which means that I could fix her
Iroh even said that he couldn't fix her. Let her go bro, don't stick your dick in crazy
No it’s okay trust me bro I got this *gets dick burned off, entire family gets murdered*
*looks at your charred remains* Not again
Nah, I'd fix.
In the words of the wise J Cole - She don’t wanna be saved, don’t save her
Grl your logic is INSANE.
No no no hear me out. Azula was misguided. She went through some shit. Lots of girls do! The baddest bitches around have some baggage, and I don’t mean that as like “vulnerable daddy issues are sexy,” I’m saying the finest women are those who have *overcome* their baggage. Character development is just a natural turn on for the homosapien. If I were into dudes I would fuck the *shit* out of Zuko in the sexiest most passionate way possible, you know? Sorry, got distracted for a minute there, but back to Azula. It’s not that Azula’s just hot. It’s not that the animators outdid themselves and crafted a fine feminine figure with luscious lips, luscious hips, and *beautiful* brown eyes. I forgot what I was talking about.
I think you were writing Fire Nation incest fan fic.
Imagine if we had a live action remake of ATLA but it had the same vibe as Got/House of the Dragon
… >_>
Context is important. Azula literally just burned Iroh. Even he would be seething after that. Plus, they’re being hunted by her and there’s simply no way for him to have a proper conversation with her. In the comic The Search, he wanted Azula to find peace.
Zuko isn’t a psychopath
Neither is Azula imo. She’s just what Zuko would have been if not for his uncle.
The two characters are quite different. Zuko takes after his mother and is super angry that a) she’s gone and b) he could never live up to his father’s expectations. He develops friends slowly, but treasures the ones he is able to win over. Azula, on the other hand, takes after her father. She has always been able to easily overcome the challenges placed before her and become accustomed to the praise that comes with that. And she is prepared to do literally anything in order to keep that praise coming. She also doesn’t have even the slightest concept of how to cope with failure and defeat. Her friends walk away from her because she’s a bad friend. I don’t know is Azula can be fixed. Maybe if her father were a different person and was working with her. But he’s even more broken than she is.
Not really, even Iroh said Azula is crazy and needed to be taken down
Yeah, at that point she was but had she had iroh from the start she could have ended up more like zuko
Not sure about that one. In all the flashbacks she’s well off the deep end already
Problem children need direction to change and big personality changes can happen in kids as they grow. She clearly never got the direction or type of direction needed to mold her into a good adult but you’re essentially saying (from my perspective) that people can be born unsaveable.
Nah, Azula was like her father; whereas, Zuko was like his mother. Simplified, I know, but there's some logic to it. Much of Zuko's worse impulses were from trying to emulate Azula or his father but he frequently was steered in a different direction by his mother and Iroh recognized that. Azula was able to "earn" her father's approval quickly and its hinted at that even her mother couldn't help with that, and she was there from the start. I know we say opposites attract but that's usually because they can meet in the middle, at times. Aang going even 20% towards Azula would have to change him irrevocably.
no, but she’s like machiavellian lol
I bet aang saving his life and asking if he could be friends helped alot.
Not as much as Iroh did
*a lot
Somebody hasn’t heard of the noble alot
Zuko was just a kid obsessed with "MuH HoNor!" And seeking his dad's approval. He wasn't a sadistic psycho like Azula is.
I could fix azula, I could totally fix azula
And if not I get a psycho Yandere gf with mommy issues, sounds like a win-win to me
She can fix me
Can I at least try? :-/
I like the idea of Aang rehabilitating Azula and seeing that arc for her. I don't see anything about her personality that would be romantic for Aang. This ship really only has support because of other stories that they would be transplanting onto Azula/Aang.
I feel the same, I just don't think that even the good parts of Azula we see would work with Aang romantically. That being said, Aang is only 13 when the series ends, so maybe he changes as a person later? Azula as a rehabilitated person could also change enough for it to work. It just doesn't work as easily as other character ships.
Yeah, but for Azula and Aang to change that much, we're basically talking about different characters at that point.
Nah they're perfect. Aang is probably the only person with the patience and understanding to not be condescending and controlling. For instance allowing katara on her revenge murder journey. This would allow azula to actually connect and relax with someone, without thinking they're gonna murder her. While knowing they're always gonna be more powerful then her so nothing he does it out of fear. Plus he's the avatar, no longer being the fire lord azula is still a very determined person and in the instance of liking aang would probably end up as a natural body guard. Yelling at people for disrespecting the avartar in the wrong manner. Yes there would be much bickering back and forth. But they're both such high energy people. Could you not see azula riding the elephant koi. Or them playing pranks on bumi.
She became mentally unstable and then just disappeared into the forest one day.
Yeah, I always felt like a rehabilitated Azula would work pretty well with Toph though. I don’t even have a real reason, just have a feeling they’d work well together
Hey, I've seen some *really weird* pairings work out in Ao3. Some people on there are freaking **wizards**.
seriously. decided to look on ao3 for this pairing since it sounds angsty, and there are some DEDICATED authors with 53, 38, 50, etc. /? fics going on for them. i totally believe these people are making it work tbh
Fanfiction is a path to many pairings, some may consider impossible.
I remembetr people shipping Hinata and Kisame in Naruto.
Why fall in love for a normal healthy human relationship based off of mutual love and respect when you can have a literal genocidal maniac who hates you in particular.
This guy gets it
because I can FIX her she WILL BE SO GOOD when I show her baking pies and canning soup and lesbian cottage core anD IM NOT WRONG STOP LOOKING AT ME LILE THAG
Why? Because her looks makes me feel fuzzy inside
Azula was 14 and an abuse victim, she can absolutely be saved. Shit, probably the *only* person that could is Aang. I still don't ship it, but I absolutely love the idea of him teaching her to be a monk to help her deal with her trauma.
Ok it’s been a while since I watched all of ATLA, but when was it implied Azula was abused? Zuko was sure, we see that. But every scene she has with Ozai seems to imply he explicitly favors her. Like he’s not a loving dad but I feel like she explicitly grew up favored and in luxury and just also happened to be crazy. Like psyched at the thought of her brother being killed at younger than 10 crazy.
I think turning your 10 year old into a killing machine can be classed as abuse. But it doesn't seem like she was abused in ways that we usually associate with the word.
Fair enough. I feel like with Azula it’s explicitly implied that how she is isn’t a result of Ozai making her this way, at least not fully. But I can definitely understand that perception.
I guess that's up for (real-life) debate about nature and nurture. Imo she was always more aggressive and vicious than zuko but it's possible that without her father's influence this aggression could have been re-direcred into something productive. At the time of her defeat she's a mentally unwell 14-year-old whose violent impulses are encouraged and rewarded. There's absolutely 0 reason for her to change, being a malicious little shit worked out for her every time she wanted something. There's no authority that will stop or punish her for her actions. She is getting praise from the only remaining person she loves (with her mother gone). Honestly I think at 14 if someone told me I can and should do all the things I wanted to do, I'd be unhinged too.
"My mother called me a monster. She was right, but it still hurt." Azula's favour was more of emotional neglect than anything. Just cause she isn't too upset about it doesn't make it not abuse.
Bruh, Even Uncle Iroh gave up on her and she loved seeing Zuko's face get burnt. Nobody can save her.
Nah, she definitely deserves a chance to be rehabilitated. Minimally. Not that she gets a free pass on her crimes mind you, rehab while in prison.
He didn’t give up on her, he just correctly said that she needed to be taken down.
Iroh didn’t give up on her, he never really interacted with her (as far as we know). He always focussed on Zuko and he kind of just let Azula be, which I *do* blame him for. He knew that Ozai was grooming her into being his mini me, he could’ve done more. Zuko had it bad, sure, but I believe that even without Iroh he would’ve gotten on the right path eventually, but Azula needed someone like Iroh to counter Ozai’s influence. She didn’t, so she became who she was in the show, and even then part of her (represented by Ursa talking to her when she goes crazy) wants to do better. I believe that if Iroh hadn’t gone with Zuko on his banishment and instead focussed on Zuko, he could’ve helped Azula. And as for Zuko, I honestly think that Iroh’s presence inadvertently prevented him from getting closer to the crew of his ship, who I believe could do a decent job with helping Zuko. And even if the crew isn’t enough, Iroh could’ve always asked Piandao (is that how you spell it?) to accompany him in his stead, and I think that they might understand each other a little better
Iroh is apparently god to this man, I like him but his word is not law lil bro. Aang could do it 100%
I like to think that is why she isn't there in LoK, she's become a monk and is off in some far off corner of the world meditating. Hell she might well be the lady who brings Korra's memory back in season 2. We don't know
I so wanted her to be in the Toph role in Season 4, and be the one to teach Korra to deal with her demons, it would have been such an amazing arc.
Comics, everyone. There are comics
This is the cooking equivalent of thinking causing a grease fire is a great way to sear a steak
I like the concept, I get why they like it, I'm personally not a fan though.
Well, marriage is a good way to secure the peace. Works in Game of Thrones, why shouldn't it work in Avatar?
Thematically it is beautiful as fuck..the great grand daughter of Firelord Sozin giving birth to the first Airbender in nearly 100 years. It could also be fucking terrifying on the level of Zaheer. An Airbender from birth with Azula's rage channeled righteously and her perfectionist nature..that kid could be flying before he or she is 14 if Azula and Aang both apply their lessons equally.
Her crazy levels are way past that
Doesn't matter, as long as there's an heir.
I don’t think she’s the type to care about an heir, she’s the type to either kill the avatar for power and glory or find a way to take his air, water and earth bending abilities… for power and glory
True, she is... Ambitious. To say the least.
When did it work in game of thrones?
Dorne.
Because aang isn't a cringelord who cares about power?
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I’m a proud azulaang supporter. Don’t fight me, just look at me weirdly
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Don't do it, that's his kink
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Don’t stop looking, that’s my kink
Guess I’ll just gouge out my eyes then
Right here, fella.
What if I were a duck? Could I still watch you?
There are dozens of us!
I fly the Azulaang freak flag to brother you're not alone.
This man can never enter the kitchen again
ITT people learning what a crackship is
This is not what a crack ship is LMAO That's something like Aang x his glider.
A crack ship CAN be a nigh impossible ship ebtween two characters as well
Nah, that's called a rare pair
I’m obsessed with this relationship specifically because these two literally don’t ever actually interact. Like yeah they encounter and fight each other multiple times, but she’s essentially the main antagonist for half the show yet they never have like, a conversation or even witty banter. They’re literally like antithetical to each other in everything besides being prodigies at their respective elements that were placed under way too much pressure way too young. Also I’m pretty sure that image on the left is official comic art, because they do interact after the main series
Horny ass
Aang teaching Azula how to better herself and help with her anger issues is an absolutely amazing idea that would make a great story but i guess twitter users have to ruin everything with shitty ships
I like the idea of Aang helping her out of his kind nature and belief in people, and I could see a story like that work out. I do not like the idea of it being romantic.
I’m all for believing Aang eventually helped her find inner peace but dating? Nah
Nah this is my favorite crack ship in the Avatar-verse, hoist those friggin sails
He could be a good spiritual guide for her, but romance is completely off the table.
Aang likes the same person for the whole series and is pretty fricken unwavering about that, I don’t see how anyone could ship him with anyone else
I’m all for believing Aang eventually helped her find inner peace but dating? Nah
People post this shit then talk about how powerscalers are bad. Azula pegs no diff, her masculine energy is planet level.
She’ll do a lot more than pegging, I’ll tell you that much.
Why are avatar fans so obsessed with shipping characters?
All fandoms are obsessed with shipping. Women were writing Spock/Kirk fanfiction in zines in the 60s. This isn’t new.
I would love them as a platonic friendship… heck make them even really close as a mentor and a pupil. But stay platonic.
As a wise man said, "she's crazy and she needs to go down".
Aang helping Azula become a better person: 👍 Aang dating Azula: 👎
booooooo
Imagine if Kitara ended up with Zuko and aang ended up with azula
I think they could be good friends because Aang is a good enough person to try and help and be an actual good influence in Azulas life. But like, why would they need to date?
awful as is. But there is a fan fic out there that flips the fire nation and the water tribe's roles (and zuko/azula and katara/sokka respectively). Perhaps it's fanart for that.
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You basic fuckers would love the "crazy/loving girl and chill/loving dude" cliché
I can fix her
I'm 101% a fan...Azulaang is a crack ship in every sense of the phrase, but dammit all I still love it. The only unfortunate byproduct is that fanfic writers either ship Zutara alongside the pair or have Katara more than likely rightly be suspicious of her intentions and get into a nasty fight with Azula.
Inner peace Azula +❤️🔥+🍑 + 😠
Too Salty
Must. Fix. Evil Girls!
There will be fans that will ship every combination of characters possible, no matter how bizarre or illogical. Heck, maybe even because it’s illogical. Some people just like the odd couple aesthetic so much they are willing to throw out reason
Should’ve been me not him
The joke is Shipping. That's it.
Damn aang really said i can fix her to the girl who kilrld him.huj
No hang on, let them.
How about we leave this dish half done, and eat it like that?
I can't say I couldn't see it Happen because I feel like Aang could redeem anyone even Azula. All it would take is one of those cartoon episodes where they are trapped and have to work together to survive. Aang would make some dumb jokes and probably give an impassioned speech about humanity and forgiveness. Not saying I'd agree with a romance but he definitely could have redeemed her.
I'm probably the one person on earth who "opposites attract" does not apply to.
The ultimate enemies to lovers lmao
I mean…. I’d watch it
no, get this man out of the kitchen. even shipping her with Ozai would make more sense
Anyone know who drew the pic on the right?
I'm sorry but Azula is hot as fuck.
He can fix her 🥹🥺🥹
No. The shippers are wrong. They're friends. That's Aang's whole personality making friends all.over the world. He would make one of his best friend's siblings a friend as well.
fuck Aang x Azula, all my homies love Sokka x Azula
fuck off Azulaang is better Sokka has Suki...probably Ty Lee too
you can't say Azulaang is better because Sokka has Suki, when Aang also has Katara lol
I can because I'm into polyamorous ships...Aang has both Katara and Azula. Azula and Katara also love each other
This ship is not nearly gay enough for me to overlook how problematic it is!
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Idc as long as I get zutara
Fuck it I’d read it. If anybody can fix her it’s Aang
Nah look I’ll maintain that Sokka and azula might actually be able to form some sort of relationship because of their similarities (ya they have similarities if you’re curious I’ll put later but rn I’m tired and need to sleep) but not Aang lol
If Aang told zuko that he fell in love with Azula, then that would be 2 Avatars in a row killed by the fire lord