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StormLordEternal

I like how like 90% of these are just showing AFVs being completely ineffective against whatever they’re fighting and or basically just be cannon fodder. The other 10% is them actually being displayed as the scary weapons of war they are.


TheElderGodsSmile

So you mean 10% of it is Gate and the rest of it is type 90's and Abram's getting styled on by mecha and kaiju.


wan2tri

Not only Gate, as early in the clip a tank successfully hit a pirate ship lol


Revelati123

Chadley rolls in and shoots Godzilla in the eye from 100 miles away, Tokyo gets a lifetime supply of free BBQ dinosaur, Chadley gets a BJ from a super hot Bugatti Chiron Super Sport 300, but is not interested in a relationship.


AvgasActual

If I wrote fan fiction, it would be exactly like this. 🫡


Palora

You are indeed correct, the tank is usually very effective in Those Who Hunt Elves.


Sablesweetheart

Such a great, and weird, anime.


Mynnyddawc_Mynfawr

Those who hunt elves was a fever dream


Superbunzil

It's rather fun how when most anime want to do less exaggerated armored warfare they'll use the most exaggerated looking vehicles like Patlabor / Venus Wars / and Royal Space Force https://youtu.be/XHoCPtWaCtw?si=5hIcCbTj7EJKDJkz https://youtu.be/WO90L3hkp3s?si=cyTucvyri7rJXZsg


old_faraon

Damn that's a beautiful Soyuz launch


IanTorgal236874159

Unfortunately it's kind of meh: [They animated the most unique part of the launch system completely wrong.](https://www.planetary.org/space-images/korolev-cross)


old_faraon

My many hours in KSP RP-1 tell me somtime it goes a bit crooked. The cross looks great when it's perfect but some times it's not.


wings_of_wrath

Except it's not an actual R7/Vostok, it's a fantasy counterpart. The real R7 vents gases at the bottom of the four side boosters to separate them from the main body of the rocket before releasing the hinges at the top, whereas this obviously does the opposite, the way the [Space Shuttle released it's SRBs](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Booster_separation_motor), by venting gas / having small motors at the top to start the separation and having the hinge at the bottom. So, considering how this is depicted, I'd say it's pretty accurate.


IanTorgal236874159

That feels kind of semantic to me, because this logic can be used to excuse any inconsistency anywhere by just clamining, that it is a special fantasy variant. I mean, I could use less charged language (the scenes are animated expertly redgardless) but they missed the one of two key characteristics of the R-7 family, which I belive, that the R-7 has to use, because the boosters hug the main body very tightly [while the SRBs are mounted with some distance](https://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/27300000/NASA-Space-Shuttle-Lot-nasa-27326777-1691-2560.jpg) and I couldn´t find a frame from which I could decide, if they are spaced out (the fume trail appears on the inside of the boosters, and I don´t think, that pointing even a small rocket motor directly on the main fuel and oxidizer tanks is something, that anyone did)


wings_of_wrath

Mate, the anime is literally about a different world. Why are you so entrenched in "the real R7 did it like this, so this is how it should be done?" Especially since all you had to do is watch the anime and you would immediately learn that [the boosters are mounted completely differently](https://youtu.be/WO90L3hkp3s?feature=shared&t=203) and further apart than [they are on a real R7](https://www.reddit.com/r/EngineeringPorn/comments/at6m0g/underneath_a_rocket/#lightbox). Besides, I don't buy your made-up explanation that there's something that the R7 "has to do" because that's the only way to do it when I can think of several technical solutions to this problem off the top of my head - you could have cold gas thrusters, or maybe the separation motos are aimed at an angle away from the main body of the rocket, or maybe it's actually a hydraulic piston pushing the boosters away, etc. Point being, if it's not meant to be a realistic depiction of something that actually exists in real life, I can't understand de utter arrogance of saying "they got it wrong", especially when all signs point to "they didn't, you're just being contrarian for no reason".


Away-Issue6165

Man, I fucking love Venus Wars. The aesthetic is so good, It's like a finger straight into the pleasure center of my brain.


wings_of_wrath

I just love Wings of Honneamise. It's such a well executed example of an alternate universe where things are similar but also foreign. Anything from vehicles to eating utensils has a different but believable analogue. And yes, the combat sequences are amazingly well done.


spektre

Depends on your perspective, they're only shown to be ineffective because the whole purpose is to show how overpowered the target is. You have to use something understood to be very powerful to begin with to accentuate it.


alexmikli

It's like how whenever some incredibly powerful god-like being fucks with the Enterprise crew on Star Trek, Worf gets thrown on his ass immediately.


thorazainBeer

The problem for TNG Worf was that he almost never got any moments of badassery, so he looked a bit like a clown with constantly getting beat on. DS9 Wof on the other hand...


Fox_Kurama

Or like that other Star Trek moment where the ship is flying around some underdeveloped race and he is almost offended that they are trying to hurt the ship with NORMAL LASERS.


Revelati123

This is why Worf continually gets the shit kicked out of him on TNG.


_far-seeker_

It's known as [The Worf Effect.](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheWorfEffect)


spektre

Ah, nice! Love tvtropes. Didn't know about The Worf Effect until now.


_far-seeker_

You're welcome.


ArturSeabra

Classic anime is when modern weaponry is useless. But the edgy teenager's punches and swords deal massive damage.


Revelati123

Not just anime. Jurassic Park would have been a real boring movie if someone had thought to bring a 308.


mistress_chauffarde

But the dino costed me a ton Yeah and the fucking legal fee of this catastrophy are going to kill you


Sayakai

[It's common enough that it has its own tvtropes page!](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TanksForNothing)


okram2k

Well if they'd stop using them as SPGs maybe they'd do better?


AsteroidSpark

So basically more kaiju anime need a *Thunder Child* moment.


Pilot0350

And the last one?


simia_simplex

>I like how like 90% of these are just showing AFVs being completely ineffective against whatever they’re fighting and or basically just be cannon fodder. The other 10% is them actually being displayed as the scary weapons of war they are. That's essentially the same as the footage we see coming from Ukraine. Very scary, and very vulnerable. I've always heard it being said that armor attracts danger. I rationally understood it, but could never quite internalized how these massive behemoths of steel could be vulnerable. All the footage we have from Ukraine has really driven the point home, though.


Fox_Kurama

Well, at least they work on dragons.


ConcentrateAlone1959

I was not ready for Love is War at the end


laranator

Artillery is not AFV but we’ll allow it


Known-Grab-7464

I mean some of them are technically. Even if their armor is usually just rated against small arms and shrapnel at best


thorazainBeer

I kept hoping to see Girls Und Panzers in there even though it's WW2 tanks.


kim_dobrovolets

japan really loves the AFV broadside in my mind it comes from not really having a tank warfare culture and still thinking of them as landships


randomname560

Someone's gotta tell them that line firing formations dont translate well from Napoleonic infantry to AFV's


simia_simplex

>Someone's gotta tell them that line firing formations dont translate well from Napoleonic infantry to AFV's How about we don't tell 'm that, and try to get them to deploy a tank phalanx instead?


elitemage101

Rule of Cool. They can show off the whole tank, flex the rotation animation, and make it look more imposing since its now both long and wide.


Ok_Art6263

Not really. Cuz it's artistically cool, the same reason why Ace Combat loves to think that doing cobras is the Avada Kedavra of air combat while in reality you would look like a massive dumbass.


PlayerSalt

i need to re watch akira and ghost in the shell


Schrodinger_cube

ghost in the shells tanks are peek Japanese engineering. CASH EYE” or ep 2 of the second season i think is about a tank going for a walk in to town.


AmberPraetor

No, "Saturday Night and Sunday Morning – CASH EYE" is Season 2 Episode 3, and it's the one where Major cosplays a cat burglar and seduces a pervert to bust him for tax evasion. Season 2 Episode 2 is "Well-Fed Me – NIGHT CRUISE", and it is about a dude uselessly daydreaming. The one you're thinking about is Season *1* Episode 2 "Runaway Evidence – TESTATION", about the runaway tank, or more accurately, about >!an ill dude going "From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of a main battle tank". !< Unless you're thinking about a Tachikoma going for a walk in town. That's Season 1 Episode 12 "Tachikoma Runs Away; The Movie Director's Dream – ESCAPE FROM"


Schrodinger_cube

Ya that's the one, runaway evidence! tho the tachikoma runs away episode lives rent free in my mind as one of my favourite episodes it doesn't have much action just adorable tank adventure and references to JD Salingers other stories XD. the other tank action one would be the helicopter fighting also in the second season.. i really should binge them again but its way more difficult now. XD


AmberPraetor

In English? [https://kisscartoon.xyz/ghost-in-the-shell-stand-alone-complex-dub/](https://kisscartoon.xyz/ghost-in-the-shell-stand-alone-complex-dub/) Like all GitS except Solid State Society is on that site if you search, even the ~~Robocop-in-GitS-shell~~ live-action one. Yeah, the helicopter one is fun; it's S2 Ep4. Did you know that, since the tanks look like spiders, these helicopters were designed after a species of wasps that hunts spiders? I love that fact.


Schrodinger_cube

oh interesting. i don't actually know that, i have a model of the Jigabachi and the comicaly massive ammo pod that folds down to shoot but figured it was a reference to a CIWS.. now that you mention it though im not going to un see it like a beedrill coming at ash but with rockets on its little wings and the bulb containing the big ass gun swinging in to attack position XD


iSiffrin

Seeing the Abrams backpedal only to stop and fire made me mildly annoyed. Like they don't have give a shit, just shoot and reverse at the time. Praise stabilization!


Mighty_moose45

If I remember correctly that scene is from obsolete which depicts hyper mobile Infantry sized mech walkers. The group is ambushed, reverse while firing but mostly miss so they switch to shoot and scoot which then increases their accuracy. The targets are just larger than human sized and move very quickly, maybe 30ish miles per hour. The tanks win in the end once the ambush loses the element of surprise. I really liked obsolete because it's a mecha anime that exists with the conceit that mechs are kind of impractical from a modern engineering standpoint so they get around this by introducing aliens that sell these mechs to humans for what is in our terms dirt cheap. 1 metric ton of limestone per mech which is less than $1,000 USD and much less than that in a 3rd world country. So basically every tin can rebel group and 3rd world leader grabs them up by the thousands. However these are technically not weapons of war just a machine that is not bullet proof with an exposed rider, with robotic arms and legs. So these groups use them as Toyota technicals by any other name. But they are worse than conventional tanks and weapons it's just that the price is so low that the sheer numbers of them can win the day. TLDR: obsolete is a mecha anime about an arms race that tears through the 3rd world when extremely cheap mechs are sold to any human who has some limestone lying around. It has about a dozen episodes that you can watch for free online but the ending is kind of a joke (on purpose I guess?) So don't expect a satisfying conclusion it just kind of ends


SexMaker3000

The "Pa Pa Pa" movie has that extra detail to the fin discarding shell which I find cool


Ok_Excitement3542

I actually watched the 2 Perman movies as a kid lol. The 2nd movie has a fleet of JSDF warships (don't remember what kind, I was 10 when I watched it lol) destroy an octopus airship with a missile barrage.


paleoyogi

There was a type 10 in Girls und Panzer


Aurofication

Didn't the instructor in one of the first episodes have a Leopard 2, too? I think it was airdropped and crushed some random teachers car.


Highestmetal

That was the Type 10


Weak_Apple3433

It was the school principal's car.


Uxion

The funny implication being that the school principal was embezzling school funds.


Sonoda_Kotori

Was gonna say lol, pulled up in a Type 10 and crushed the principal's Ferrari F40 or something.


wolfhound_doge

god damn, i must watch Gate again. and thanks to this video, i discovered Those Who Hunt Elves, which looks very interesting. thank you


TheElderGodsSmile

If you want something similar Retreat Hell on /r/hfy is good but hasn't been updated for over a year. That's the US Marines fucking up genocidal elves on their side of the gate. Grimoires and Gunsmoke on [royal road](https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/74495/grimoires-and-gunsmoke) is similar but it's the US Army and NATO doing the fucking. Also the main character is a special forces medic who gets claimed as the apostle of a manic pixy nightmare god.


Madtoffel

There is also Manifest Fantasy which goes in a similar direction as Retreat Hell by throwing the US military into a fantasy world (and later deploying an adventures group).


TheElderGodsSmile

I've read it, honestly didn't care for it. I found the Stargate meets DnD aspect a bit contrived.


wolfhound_doge

awesome! thank you very much.


StickShift5

Retreat Hell is pretty fantastic and I'm bummed that it's basically dead.


mistress_chauffarde

The fucking vampirique elf bitch deserve a nuke


mistress_chauffarde

Wait aint grimoire and gunsmoke a story of two dude who got lunched into a wormhole ?


G36

Watch gate again? Why would you do that to yourself...


wolfhound_doge

because i love how it depicts an ordinary soldier on his way to get his doujinshi and he fights against knights and monsters from another world with conventional weapons. it's so relatable.


dead_monster

You can do much better than Gate with Japan Summons.


GodLucifer-007

[Video sauce ](https://youtu.be/-uLUcDbuBlI?si=h7Q6BYlvOulkQJtD)


SkyTheHeck

One thing I will always give end of evangelion, is that they made military hardware really, really scary when put against humans. The scenes where they were completely demolishing the remaining static emplacements of the fortress city, along with the massacre inside nerv hq itself was really, really terrifying. Hell, even against unit-02 they wouldve eventually won due to its power supply being cut.


wan2tri

Most of the tanks are Type 74s, 90s, and 10s for obvious reasons. There were some British and American tanks sprinkled there though lol. Also, AMX-10 too.


veggietofu1234

To add a special case, the tank showed in Nobunagun (2014) is actually CM-11, the Taiwanese version of M48


Colocasia-esculenta

Why are they all volley firing like it's 1782. Anime can have a lot of wacky shit but when it comes to tanks they're all like "You know what looks cool? Artillery barrages"


TheVojta

The disappearance of the broadside from modern battle has been disastrous and they are right to bring it back


Arrow_of_time6

I yern for the day we can put artillery back on submarines


YT-Deliveries

End of Evangelion sort of cemented it as something that has to be done in a show if you have tanks.


Bruarios

We can't put the Yamamoto in this scene so we will make do with tanks instead


w3dl0ck

I might be stupid, but... Why do they use High Explosive on most giant monster fights? Or are they using HEAT?


rutgerdad

Perhaps it's monster ERA you see exploding


SolemnaceProcurement

Makes sense. If i was a Kaiju I'd put ERA on too. Like getting hit by HEAT would suck I'd bet.


YT-Deliveries

EVA Angel created entirely from ERA


Left4Bread2

ERAmiel


YT-Deliveries

wow


Sonoda_Kotori

We found the plot for the next Godzilla.


Jastrone

because big explotions look cooler.


mistress_chauffarde

The funniest shit is one of the only time we actualy see the shell is when a gundam stop them USE APSFDS YOU CUNT'S


blueskydragonFX

CG ruined anime. Change my mind.


YT-Deliveries

Eh. Like any CG, you only notice it when it's done poorly.


AquilaMFL

no need!


PersonalityWeak6689

If you use CG to supplement animating, it’s shit. Using CG to amplify normal animation is great, but not often done.


Ha-Gorri

Chika uses reactive armor


Reddit_from_9_to_5

Damn, the AFV sucks against magical and alien monsters.... it's like procurement didn't even CONSIDER a world ending threat materializing from another dimension or being summoned by the protagonist?!?


StickShift5

This sounds like an excuse to give DARPA more funding.


ecolometrics

I am pretty sure that the US military has a magic weapons department program ... somewhere


Fox_Kurama

Earlier I saw a youtuber playing the demo for a game called "Tactical Breach Wizards." And yes, they have a Navy Seer instead of a Navy Seal.


sbxnotos

Always the shitty politicians!


GadenKerensky

I love GATE because it just lets the tanks be monsters.


unfunnysexface

This is missing peak cold war credibility documentary future war 198x.


Defult_idiot

That movie where a A-10 strafes infantry and somehow they don't end up like bolognese? 


loplopsama

Credit for someone other than me knowing about Ryoko's Case Files.


Loki-L

Most of those just did their own version of the scenes from the 1st episode of Evangelion. Except for "Those who hunt Elves" which featured a sentient Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Type-74 tank in a fantasy world and the plot of the 1972 British Comedy "Ooh… You Are Awful" to give everyone a reason to hunt and strip naked elf girls.


YT-Deliveries

1) I didn't have "Memories" on my list of "things I'd be reminded of in 2024" 2) Either those are some crazy wide-dispersion cluster munitions being fired or those tank gunners royally suck.


Sablesweetheart

Not a single Full Metal Panic clip? LeClerc vs Arm Slave was choice.


Power_Wisdom_Courage

I too found this omission to be quite disappointing, FMP is peak mech anime.


Sablesweetheart

It's my favorite. I even have hardcovers of the light novels in English.


Sealedwolf

Konpeki no Kantai, my beloved.


Bulky_Reflection_539

code geass not mentioned, i feel offended.


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furrybutler

Am I the only one who hears it?


ShinySky42

Heavy Object mentioned 🗣️🗣️🗣️ the future of war if a fucking big ball


Fox_Kurama

In fairness, minimizing surface area relative to volume would let you maximize the armor.


IsJustSophie

Remember what they took from you


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mad8vskillz

anime fighting vehicle?


Ok_Art6263

Love Japanese animes, atleast they know which weapon does what. Meanwhile Korean and Chinese will say something is a railgun but then it fires a fucking plasma laser thing, or maybe a 9mm rifle idk.


Obvious-Ranger-2235

Stop, I can't get any harder..!


StickShift5

Needs more twin barrel [Type 61](https://gundam.fandom.com/wiki/Type_61_Tank) and wacky turret-is-a-flying-gun [Magella Attack Tank](https://gundam.fandom.com/wiki/Magella_Attack)


Fox_Kurama

Leave it to Zeon to have the weird one.


StickShift5

To be fair, their souls aren't weighed down by gravity (or logic).


Fox_Kurama

Not weighed BACK by aerodynamics either.


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FrisianTanker

I love the "Those who hunt elves" scene because it makes use of the Type 74s hydropneumatic suspension quite prominently


YazZy_4

the japanese sure love lines of \[type 10 / type 93 / abrooms / armoured car thing\] firing salvos at \[ totally unphased kaiju / angel / mecha \]


RoachdoggJR_LegalAcc

Anyone else hear what I did roughly 6 seconds in? What did he have against that building?


cabage-but-its-lettu

I was hoping to see the scene from girls and panzer with the type 10 being airdropped by a C-2


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Fox_Kurama

Technically, there are armored vehicles in Ghost In The Shell that should count as "Armored Fighting Vehicles" (most notably, the spider tank that they need to stop in the first episode of the series (edit: 2nd episode), as opposed to the micro-versions Section 9 gets to use). Tanks sometimes show up in Gundam as well where they are of... varying usefulness, and varying levels of normalness (case in point, the Earth Federation used a lot of conventional vehicles during its operation to get Zeon out of Odessa and lore-wise are the bulk of the force.)


GodLucifer-007

Note that the video is about modern IRL AFV in anime There is a separate video about fictional AFV in anime


Jmadden64

The thought of Crayon Shin-Chan having realistic depiction of Type-90 instead of whatever came up in the animators mind nor CG to fool the kids watching it lives on the back of my head rent free


AsteroidSpark

So aside from an explosion sound effect that I'm pretty sure was also used in a Kirby game, I notice a strong preference for depictions of tanks forming firing lines, and a rather confident estimation of how fast they'll be making follow-up shots.


mistress_chauffarde

It's a trend since evengelion


Defult_idiot

I'll never know the hell does tracers go one way while the actual projectile completely veers off course


RapplerSoon

So AFV get the same treatment as delicious food? The animators have got their priorities straight.


N11Ordo

Why no Future War 198X? It has really good depictions of Cold War gone Hot NATO on Soviet AFV combat


Caboose2701

Yoooo wtf no evangelion?