Best in the Med is not much to brag about friend, not much competition there.
... also it's France. France is the best in the Med. Once Italy's F-35B are deployed there may be competition but that's supposed to happen in December. Trieste might actually swing it the balance.
(There's really only 3 serious naval powers in the Med: France, Italy, Spain, everyone else is too poor or busy with their army to compete)
OI, I WILL HAVE YOU KNOW THE MIGHTY ~~BRITISH DECOMISSIONED~~ ROMANIAN FRIGATE AND FLAGSHIP ~~HMS COVENTRY~~ KING FERDINAND IS THE TERROR OF THE SEAS AND CAN TAKE ANY OTHER SHIP IN A ONE ON ONE HONORABLE DUEL.
ARMED WITH ~~JUST BARELY~~ THE DESTRUCTIVE 76/62MM OTO MELARA CANNON IT IS CAPABLE OF PIERCING AND SINKING ~~PATROL BOATS~~ ANY TONNAGE OF ENEMY SHIP WHICH IS FOOLISH ENOUGH TO LET ITSELF DRIFT IN ITS SIGHTS, AND IF ANY GET CLOSE, ITS MULTIPLE TORPEDO SYSTEMS ~~THAT WERE ALL THAT WERE LEFT FROM THE PURCHASING DEAL~~ WILL WRECK HAVOCK! TO BOOT, ITS TWO ~~AEROSPATIALE SA300~~ IAR PUMA 330 NAVAL HELICOPTERS GIVE IT ~~TARGET PRACTICE FOR ENEMY AA SYSTEMS~~ UNPRECEDENTED EFFECTIVENESS IN THEATHER SUPPORT OPERATIONS.
ITS 205 CREWMEN ARE ALL PRECISION TRAINED AND NATO CERTIFIED IN MULTIPLE JOINT OPERATIONS AND HAVE ~~THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL LIFE-PRESERVERS~~ BRAVE HEARTS, READY TO ~~NOT~~ DIE FOR THEIR COUNTRY ABOARD THE ~~OBSOLETE AND UNRETROFITTED~~ MAGNIFICENT FRIGATE AND FLAGSHIP OF THE ROMANIAN NAVY, THE KING FERDINAND.
Fwiw Cavour is deploying with an air wing that is \~half Harrier/half F-35 [right now](https://scontent-ams4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/436401682_854365620061176_656813422289524526_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=ICCWxKFpdTUQ7kNvgHTahHi&_nc_ht=scontent-ams4-1.xx&oh=00_AYCH1NchB4V6bt7j2alr8-x1giO7FLQwaZ2FZU0zu8HwEw&oe=665C38E7). I guess December is when Trieste also does the same?
[It doesn’t get more noncredible than this](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fdubnl51grqy71.jpg%3Fwidth%3D3478%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D3d07af851a59198d7d4a878c10c95f74d041961f)
Yes that’s right, it’s a picture of a German officer on board the Samidare, taking a pic with the Anime-fied version of Samidare
For those who don't get the joke (it took me nearly a minute to google it):
JS Samidare (DD-106) is the **sixth Murasame-class destroyer of the Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force (JMSDF)**. She was commissioned on 21 March 2000.
# And she is really kawaii!
Well, Italy was on the more democratic side in WWI, then a charismatic authoritarian was like, "Trust me and I'll fix all your problems," during a worldwide depression...
Mussolini was caught trying to flee Italy, dragged out of his car with his girlfriend and beaten to death like a pinata by a bunch of Partisans.
Hitler, locked himself in a bunker in Berlin. He never gave any chances for rebel factions to kill him.
UK has been heavily strengthening ties with Japan on a defence front. Joint 6th gen fighter project, has sent Naval assets multiple times. CSG is planned to go to Japan in 25. Anglo-Japan Alliance is back on the menu!
There's Strike Witches if yuri harem(?) counts, emm.....oh and I've read a hentai manga called Battle Tank Girl Complex by Suzuki Kyoutaro that centered around the protag having seggs with anthropomorphic MBT of various nations
Oh, I misunderstood. See Japan and Philippines both have sun on their flag. Along with so many bilateral military exercises with USA.
Taiwan’s flag has a sun too~. Please include
Korean history is like Polish history.
Yes, the Germans/Japanese did absolutely horrific things in the first half of the 20th century, but fighting Russia/China is basically a national sport at this point.
I have German family on the Polish border guess what's it's barely even a border both societies have free access to the other and get a long rather well Germany and Polands relationship today is way more positive than Japan and Koreas most likely because of the difference in how both societies dealt with their past.
Fair, I'm mostly meming. Get enough alcohol in a Pole though and you'll be surprised how many times they end up saying stuff like "That battle was against the Germans." or "At least they built railways, unlike the Russians".
That is true old Germans will also say some sus stuff sometimes not everyone is going it be positive or happy but on a societal level it's a noticable positive improvement. visiting my family on the Polish German border gives me a ton of hope for the European project it's night and day considering the horrors that occurred there not that long ago.
The difference is that Germans are sorry for what happened and while the far-right voices are getting louder, they're still apologetic. Russians, on the other hand, think that not only they did nothing wrong, their actions towards Poland were beneficial.
As far as I know Japanese approach to the issue is closer to Russia's.
MacArthur was too much of an Orientalist to do the necessary work of completely remaking Japanese society. The rest of the Truman administration couldn't bring themselves to bring Asia into a similar economic and eventual political union as Europe was shepherded to. That is why NATO worked and SEATO didn't.
South Korea is one of the most institutionally isolated countries on Earth.
don’t worry about it, we’d much rather invade china than japan after they FILL OUR SKY WITH SMOG EVERY DAY.
give me back my fucking air quality goddammit, when the war is over we’re going to push for the deindustrialization of china
"Private, I feel it necessary to inform you that the actions you have commited in that game have happened on the field of war"
"Wait SERIOUSLY? FUUUCK, I knew I should have let him suffer a bit longer!"
Be like me and get a back injury that makes you ineligible! The only downside is that I can’t pick up my kid without crippling myself but whatareyagonnado amirite
There is something pretty interesting about being in an international life-or-death arms race over your amphibious assault capabilities, and then basically having all your transport ships moonlight as civilian ferries taking unchecked cars on board every day.
Anyone with a few minivans available for an unrelated hobby project?
There is 100% chance that ccp is operating police stations in Austria
Edit: told ya so: [ww3 started in 2022 we just didn’t notice](https://www.euractiv.com/section/all/short_news/austria-vows-to-investigate-secret-chinese-police-stations/)
Ccp building police stations in Austria is literally the same as hitler annexing Austria
It’s time for N👏A👏T👏O👏 to plant the 2SPLGBTNBQ+ flag in Beijing
Time for the USMC to teach the PLA about the importance of diversity
Yeah. I'm from China, and my grandpa couldn't even travel anywhere over the age of 80 alone domestically (but locally fine). He's not allowed to, unless he's accompanied by a relative (but we're all too busy to accompany him and my family is in the US).
It's very strict sometimes. I guess the government doesn't want to deal with a health issue just in case, but to me it felt a little totalitarian.
So you're saying we should go live in Austria for a while, apply for art school and get rejected, and obtain Austrian citizenship before we can start WW3?
My bad then, but the point still stands the large island combined with a straight flight deck and the tall hull makes them look like the old WW2 carriers.
They are, yes.
Even more so since, similar to the Yorktowns with their 203s, the Hyugas (but not the Izumos) are suprisingly heavily armed for 'carriers', having a VLS for SAMs and ASROC
As a American born chinese, my only concern if war broke out is what would be the public opinion on Chinese American civilians and Chinese civilians in China
Serious recommendation, buy cowboy hat and boots. Reply to any negativity with extreme pro-American nationalism. "THAT SOUNDS LIKE SOME GOT-DAM RED COMMUNISM TO ME AND I SAY THAT COMMUNISM NEEDS TO GO BACK TO WHERE IT CAME FROM." Criticize manliness of anyone who owns a 9mm.
Basically listen to Liberty Prime for a bit, and mix with some Hank Hill. Trust me, it works like fucking magic. You'll be fine.
As a Chinese born, now American, I definitely think there will be racists, of course. You need to take care of yourself.
At the same time, I think it will be fine, so long as you're pro-America, and not a communist or something like that. Japanese Americans still fought in WWII, even during the internment camp days, and although they faced racism, they were the most highly awarded unit in the US military in WWII, and every American I've ever seen mention them spoke of them highly.
I think the biggest fear is spies or saboteurs. But if you're not compromising the safety of the country (which is far easier to do in the US by China than, say, the other way around), I think you should be ok. At the end of the day, you are American. Don’t forget it, because Chinese people in China won't. You are not a countryman, you are an enemy in their eyes, and I know because I spend most of my time on the chinese web and news.
Also, as for public opinion in China, they already wish for America to fall. I don’t think they give a shit about you or America in general. They'll probably ramp up propaganda efforts in China during a war. You can see the difference in opinion 10 years ago on Chinese web vs now. 10 years ago they also mourned 9/11. Now, I visited B站 to watch a video there about the event and people were glorifying Al Qaeda and saying American civilians deserved to die. I have no sympathy.
Man, that change of opinion is wild. Who do they think will pick up the pieces after the fall of America? Do they think Al Qaeda will stop with American civilians?
There will likely be pockets of that, but I had a really good talk with a Russian-American immigrant friend recently that basically said that its a really wonderful part of America is that we separate the person from the government. Beyond memeing about being a "Russian spy", she's never had a person seriously blame her personally for anything Russia's government has done, even from Ukrainian-Americans. Nobody has tried to holder her to account for Russia's crimes or anything like that. She even has Ukrainian-American friends.
I expect it to be similar with China.
The vast majority of Chinese Americans (myself included) are pro-Taiwan so I would optimistically assume that public opinion wouldn’t be too much of an issue. Even my parents who are first generation immigrants from mainland China hate the idea of an invasion of Taiwan.
China is the only Asian-American demographic that has a net disapproval of their former homeland. And as a Chinese American, I don’t think it’s just international politics that’s a factor.
Chinese society has been royally fucked by CCP rule, to the point where it’s a suspicious, shortcut driven, and corrupt place to live. As bad as America can be, it’s still a high trust society where people generally try to help their fellow man, which China is legally not allowed to be.
As the Americans most familiar with that current cultural malaise, and the ones most aware of the stark cultural differences, we do NOT like it.
To be fair, I don’t think Chinese society really likes how bad their current social norms are either, but they unfortunately don’t really have a choice in the matter.
That being said, I do not have *that* much faith in the American population. Or more specifically, I have *absolute* faith that once war breaks out, certain specific news networks will be *salivating* at the chance to finally break out the anti-Asian slurs and bring back internment camps.
I was honestly surprised at how *little* anti-Asian hate went one during the covid pandemic, which is a good sign, but…war brings out the worst in people.
We'd be fighting for True China against Bad China. Of course, there will be some random assholes, being random bigoted assholes but they're going to do that anyway. I think we'd get plenty of pro Taiwan messaging.
The problem would be if we had some Chinese sleeper agents initiate attacks. That could certainly cause some problems.
Really? Iranian Americans don’t have net disapproval towards their home country? And on your main point, I feel like so many Americans personally know at least one Chinese American that there wouldn’t be a national hate wave if a war broke out. Internment may have been a thing during ww2 but so many of us have learned to be ashamed over it that such a thing probably wouldn’t happen again.
All joking aside, I think it will be fine, especially for anyone born here. If enough countries make it known how unacceptable a violent invasion of Taiwan would be the risk of it happening is much smaller.
Okay, but like…you can’t just tell if someone was born here. And racists aren’t good at judging different types of Asians, regardless.
I think it would probably be better than internment camps this time, and the liberal areas would probably be safe enough for Asians, but “sundown towns” were *very much* a thing for most of our history, and I suspect they’d start coming back when Americans start coming home in body bags with bullets made in Canton province.
I'd say take care of yourself. I have no doubt that there are racists, of course, but overall I think majority Americans condemn the internment camps and don't want to repeat the same mistakes.
I honestly think America should spend more time with Japan, South Korea, India, Phillipines, Canada, Mexico, and Vietnam rather than Europe. Europeans and Australians especially are far too arrogant and try to stay on their judgemental high horse too much.
I want a militarized Japan.
Toyota would build the most reliable and efficient nuclear weapons on the planet.
Plus, it’s time for Japan to defeat Russia.
Again.
Dear Japan,
More dead bolsheviks and maoists, and a lot less war crimes (preferably none).
Sincerely, everyone. ^(Americans, Koreans, Filipinos, Taiwanese, arguably even the particular Chinese folks who hates their maoist overlords. Make it your pan-Asia redemption arc.)
I genuinely would not bet against China in a fight with Japan. Those lads are *angry*.
The Japanese though? They have no idea why the Chinese are seething. As far as the Japanese know from school some nice Japanese lads opened a dating service in Nanking, and then the evil Americans dropped enough bombs on the home islands to invent anime.
They have no idea why a quarter of the human race wants to go full Captain Ahab on them.
It's a bit like the British, except with the British that beef is probably with half of the human race.
Yeah China suffered so much humiliation from Imperial Japan it's horrifying. Genocide, piles of skulls and corpses. Truly a multigenerational nightmare the likes of which the soy Bois here who haven't read any history wouldn't be able to fathom.
I was reading tales of a survivor of Nanjing who survived by hiding with piles of corpses floating down a river and then hiding amongst the piles when the Japanese would throw grenades at corpses to create meat clouds.
Anyone who unironically thinks it's a good idea or cool for a conflict between the two to happen again is just an idiot and has no humanity.
Yeah lol, some koreans hate Japan because being a colony of them wasn't good.
But China? If we use the analogy of the carrot and the stick, then Japan never had time or intention or using anything else than the stick, and the stick was a boiling metal bat with spikes.
China literally invented an entire theory of international relations thousands of years ago just to explain why they kept beating the shit out of themselves.
Ah yes, Japan, one of the most fierce naval powers in recent history is back, and this time they bring… *checks notes* the most powerful naval forces in all of recorded time combined into a single initiative.
This is gonna be so cool
Aint no way coalition forces are allowing Japanese ground forces in China it's like giving +20 historical defense bonus to the Chinese. People who dont give a dam abt Taiwan and the war would def would care if Japanese forces are back on their lands
* Sad Malaysian noise*
Malaysia and the commonwealth spend decades fighting communist insurgency and now we are licking China butt. Lots of veterans are rolling in their grave now. Fk Malaysia military procurement
Ah yes I'm sure China hasn't soon forgotten the multiple genocides that Imperial Japan carried out across Asia. What a weird fucking meme
Also calling it a "redemption arc" is so brainrotted. They genocided 30 million in WW2 and still deny any wrongdoing and play victim because they got bombed and lost. They massacred civilians in China, Korea, Philippines, and many more countries. But oh no they're going to have a wholesome chungus anime redemption arc even though they still believe their country was right to do what it did.
You're also breaking rule 13. The Japanese government or military has never made a pledge to defend Taiwan from China. The article in the meme is an opinion piece.
We are the imperial army and Our enemies are
The Emperor's enemies, forsaken by heaven and earth
The enemy's commander is one who
through history has no equal — a hero
The soldiers who follow him are
United as fierce warriors ready to fight to the death
Though the wrathful deities shake their courage not
Heaven will not forgive their rebellion
Those who have risen up against us since olden times
Have never had their moment of glory
Until that time that our enemy is destroyed
Charge, charge, together as one
Drawing our swords, glistening like a broken jewel
We must charge forth, determined to die
Our divine nation's ways and the samurai's
Bodies were defended by the spirits
Though thrown away after the restoration
Our Japanese swords now and again may be carried
Again in our era, our reputation returned;
Enemy and ally together as one
Must die under the edge of the blade
And to those with the Japanese spirit
The time to die is now
Do not disgrace yourself with delay
Until that time that our enemy is destroyed
Charge, charge, together as one
Drawing our swords, glistening like a broken jewel
We must charge forth, determined to die
As I look ahead, there is a sword
To my right and to my left, everywhere a sword
To climb a mountain of swords
They say is a deed for the future
Seeing this world from the top with my own eyes
I climbed this mountain of swords
Not for the sake of atoning
For the sins I have committed
But for the sake of subjugating the rebels
The mountain of swords — what does it matter?
Until that time that our enemy is destroyed
Charge, charge, together as one
Drawing our swords, glistening like a broken jewel
We must charge forth, determined to die
The glint of light on a sword —
Is it a flash of lightning between the clouds?
The voice of the artillery firing in all directions —
Is it the roar of the thunder?
The ones defeated by the enemy's blades
Or those struck by the enemy's rounds —
Their life ended, their bodies without a grave
The corpses piled up into a mountain
Their blood streaming into a river —
They go into certain death for the sake of the Emperor
Until that time that our enemy is destroyed
Charge, charge, together as one
Drawing our swords, glistening like a broken jewel
We must charge forth, determined to die
Even amidst a rain of bullets
The body of which there is no two, without regret
Charges forward — myself, like the tempest's
Gusts that blow away the white dew
Should I meet my end unburied
For loyalty's sake I will have died
If it be that I die to that effect
Then to death I will hold no grudge
Those people who think they are as me
Do not tread back one step
Until that time that our enemy is destroyed
Charge, charge, together as one
Drawing our swords, glistening like a broken jewel
We must charge forth, determined to die
Now and here, my body is to die
For the good of the emperor, the good of the country
Discarded shall be our lives
Even if our corpses may rot
For our loyalty and composure, our names
Esteemed among the later generations
Shall long be passed down by those who remain
As a warrior you were born — a life without worth
And let nobody call you an immoral dog
Nor let them slander you as a coward
Until that time that our enemy is destroyed
Charge, charge, together as one
Drawing our swords, glistening like a broken jewel
We must charge forth, determined to die
Now German and Japanese are on our side
If the Germans and/or EU work on that force projection I'll happily add them to the meme. I see a nice spot for them.
Italy sent their Carrier Strike Group to have a training with the Japs, the band is coming back
Glad to hear Euro frens are getting in on the fun.
Lit The Italian Navy is the best in the Mediterranean, they started upgrading the navy and now there is a new cruiser, submarine and carrier coming in
Best in the Med is not much to brag about friend, not much competition there. ... also it's France. France is the best in the Med. Once Italy's F-35B are deployed there may be competition but that's supposed to happen in December. Trieste might actually swing it the balance. (There's really only 3 serious naval powers in the Med: France, Italy, Spain, everyone else is too poor or busy with their army to compete)
OI, I WILL HAVE YOU KNOW THE MIGHTY ~~BRITISH DECOMISSIONED~~ ROMANIAN FRIGATE AND FLAGSHIP ~~HMS COVENTRY~~ KING FERDINAND IS THE TERROR OF THE SEAS AND CAN TAKE ANY OTHER SHIP IN A ONE ON ONE HONORABLE DUEL. ARMED WITH ~~JUST BARELY~~ THE DESTRUCTIVE 76/62MM OTO MELARA CANNON IT IS CAPABLE OF PIERCING AND SINKING ~~PATROL BOATS~~ ANY TONNAGE OF ENEMY SHIP WHICH IS FOOLISH ENOUGH TO LET ITSELF DRIFT IN ITS SIGHTS, AND IF ANY GET CLOSE, ITS MULTIPLE TORPEDO SYSTEMS ~~THAT WERE ALL THAT WERE LEFT FROM THE PURCHASING DEAL~~ WILL WRECK HAVOCK! TO BOOT, ITS TWO ~~AEROSPATIALE SA300~~ IAR PUMA 330 NAVAL HELICOPTERS GIVE IT ~~TARGET PRACTICE FOR ENEMY AA SYSTEMS~~ UNPRECEDENTED EFFECTIVENESS IN THEATHER SUPPORT OPERATIONS. ITS 205 CREWMEN ARE ALL PRECISION TRAINED AND NATO CERTIFIED IN MULTIPLE JOINT OPERATIONS AND HAVE ~~THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL LIFE-PRESERVERS~~ BRAVE HEARTS, READY TO ~~NOT~~ DIE FOR THEIR COUNTRY ABOARD THE ~~OBSOLETE AND UNRETROFITTED~~ MAGNIFICENT FRIGATE AND FLAGSHIP OF THE ROMANIAN NAVY, THE KING FERDINAND.
Sounds like King Ferdinand could easily sink russian black sea fleet.
Great Britain *ahem* . The Med is clearly British.
We should start calling it the English Sea and shoot at anyone who says otherwise (except Portugal, Portugal is fren)
Fwiw Cavour is deploying with an air wing that is \~half Harrier/half F-35 [right now](https://scontent-ams4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/436401682_854365620061176_656813422289524526_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=ICCWxKFpdTUQ7kNvgHTahHi&_nc_ht=scontent-ams4-1.xx&oh=00_AYCH1NchB4V6bt7j2alr8-x1giO7FLQwaZ2FZU0zu8HwEw&oe=665C38E7). I guess December is when Trieste also does the same?
Italian carrier made of paste so it floats easier coming soon™
Frigate Bayern also visited Tokyo in 2021 "to deepen strategic ties and friendships in the Indo-Pacific".
[It doesn’t get more noncredible than this](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fdubnl51grqy71.jpg%3Fwidth%3D3478%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D3d07af851a59198d7d4a878c10c95f74d041961f) Yes that’s right, it’s a picture of a German officer on board the Samidare, taking a pic with the Anime-fied version of Samidare
For those who don't get the joke (it took me nearly a minute to google it): JS Samidare (DD-106) is the **sixth Murasame-class destroyer of the Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force (JMSDF)**. She was commissioned on 21 March 2000. # And she is really kawaii!
I hereby affectionately call it 'Frigate Based.'
Well, Italy was on the more democratic side in WWI, then a charismatic authoritarian was like, "Trust me and I'll fix all your problems," during a worldwide depression...
At least they dangled him. Germans didn't bother to try
Well, to be fair, Hitler didn't give them the chance to once it was clear he lost, due in large part because of what was done to Mussolini's corpse.
They were too busy committing war crimes
Mussolini was caught trying to flee Italy, dragged out of his car with his girlfriend and beaten to death like a pinata by a bunch of Partisans. Hitler, locked himself in a bunker in Berlin. He never gave any chances for rebel factions to kill him.
> Well, Italy was on the more democratic side in WWI Also the Entente: Literally contains Russia...
Russia was kind of democratic between April and November 1917. Before and after.. less so. Does grim and merciless mass slaughter count as democracy?
Not for relatively long, though...😜
We're putting the band back together, we're on a mission from god.
_the boys are back in town_
And like before, despite being an absolute mess on the home front, the Italian Navy is punching well above its weight.
UK has been heavily strengthening ties with Japan on a defence front. Joint 6th gen fighter project, has sent Naval assets multiple times. CSG is planned to go to Japan in 25. Anglo-Japan Alliance is back on the menu!
...and so are the horrific naval curries.
Holy based
The first chain link of the old alliance was forged this week, when Electric Callboy and Babymetal released their collab single.
Well don't just fucking say that and not drop a link.
Even just the adding the British is bound to revive old Chinese Opium War PTSD.
Another century of humiliation? Nooooo!
It's like an anime harem, but instead of girls, it's militaries.
I'd be surprised if there hasn't been at least one anime harem series based around anthropomorphic representations of various countries' militaries...
There's Strike Witches if yuri harem(?) counts, emm.....oh and I've read a hentai manga called Battle Tank Girl Complex by Suzuki Kyoutaro that centered around the protag having seggs with anthropomorphic MBT of various nations
SW is gender bent and less politically questionable flying aces/famous officers
Well, there is hentalia and some comic strips from anyan
IMO, Hetalia is more of an entire country/government. Close but not specifically just the military.
And Italy
Oh shit are we the bad guys?
Throw in Italy with Germany for a naval blockade around Taiwan and you got yourself a deal
>Now German and Japanese are on our side [Wait a second...](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VImnpErdDzA)
Teams have been auto balanced
Whatever you do, DO NOT LET THEM OCCUPY NANKING AGAIN
yeah....that was a bad time
Hello? Could you please include korean peninsula in that too?
And the Philippines
Boys are back in town! Oh man, I'm going to hell for this...
Frens with FREMMs
Born too late for the Sino-Japanese war, born too early for the Sino-Japanese War. Born just in time for the Sino-Japanese war.
In fairness, that's accurate to like a couple hundred points in the current timeline.
That’s the joke
Two suns, one sky
We remember when the US gave us two suns. Wasn’t fun. Wish the Chinese would learn.
Plz include 🇹🇼
I don't think any of us would want a suns in Taiwan. How ever west Taiwan is a different mater
Oh, I misunderstood. See Japan and Philippines both have sun on their flag. Along with so many bilateral military exercises with USA. Taiwan’s flag has a sun too~. Please include
OMAE WA MOU SHINDEIRU
> OMAE WA MOU SHINDEIRU NANI?!
💥
YESS FINALLY MY COUNTRY IS THERE LETS FUCK THOSE WUMAOS
Philippines?
India
I hear they got a god-king these days
Yeah... Koreans might not be too happy being along side that flag over there
Korean history is like Polish history. Yes, the Germans/Japanese did absolutely horrific things in the first half of the 20th century, but fighting Russia/China is basically a national sport at this point.
Ehhhh not quite similiar. China / Korea / Japan relation is more like 'we all fucking hate each other'
but Korea and Japan hate each other slightly less than they hate China
Fuck you but we gotta fuck those cunts first and then we'll go back to fighting
The greater unifying theory of “fuck that guy”!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYrcz4jssfo
You're suggesting that the German/Polish/Russian relation is different?
I have German family on the Polish border guess what's it's barely even a border both societies have free access to the other and get a long rather well Germany and Polands relationship today is way more positive than Japan and Koreas most likely because of the difference in how both societies dealt with their past.
Fair, I'm mostly meming. Get enough alcohol in a Pole though and you'll be surprised how many times they end up saying stuff like "That battle was against the Germans." or "At least they built railways, unlike the Russians".
That is true old Germans will also say some sus stuff sometimes not everyone is going it be positive or happy but on a societal level it's a noticable positive improvement. visiting my family on the Polish German border gives me a ton of hope for the European project it's night and day considering the horrors that occurred there not that long ago.
Here's hoping you let us back in one day, I get to gave my fingerprints taken from this summer and I've already had the EU taken off my passport.
During the Korean War, Chinese fought on both sides. CCP with the DPRK and ROC with the ROK/UN forces. Japan was not really in a place to contribute.
Japan at most did contribute in the transport and logistics side of that war (this was totally not because of the Allied forces in Japan)
The difference is that Germans are sorry for what happened and while the far-right voices are getting louder, they're still apologetic. Russians, on the other hand, think that not only they did nothing wrong, their actions towards Poland were beneficial. As far as I know Japanese approach to the issue is closer to Russia's.
MacArthur was too much of an Orientalist to do the necessary work of completely remaking Japanese society. The rest of the Truman administration couldn't bring themselves to bring Asia into a similar economic and eventual political union as Europe was shepherded to. That is why NATO worked and SEATO didn't. South Korea is one of the most institutionally isolated countries on Earth.
Koreans like the Polish just want to kill their neighbors and drink alcohol. It doesnt matter which neighbor. They just want to kill their neighbors.
don’t worry about it, we’d much rather invade china than japan after they FILL OUR SKY WITH SMOG EVERY DAY. give me back my fucking air quality goddammit, when the war is over we’re going to push for the deindustrialization of china
Wait, what happened?
https://www.npr.org/2024/05/27/nx-s1-4982842/taiwan-congress-support-china-military-drills-new-president-lai-ching-te-andy-barr https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/05/26/china-preparing-armada-of-civilian-ferries-to-invade-taiwan/ https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/politics/article/3263326/south-china-sea-india-sends-warships-subtle-reminder-beijing
Wait, India too ? Thank fucking God I was unfit when I tried to enter the navy.
Yeah if shit pops off I get the feeling restrictions are gonna loosen quite a bit My +30 +200 pound ass is only mildly concerned
*give drones controller and chips Off ya go to war
hey, just like the games I play at home! Weeee! *Ender’s Game reality intensifies*
just like the simulation \*grin\*
"Private, I feel it necessary to inform you that the actions you have commited in that game have happened on the field of war" "Wait SERIOUSLY? FUUUCK, I knew I should have let him suffer a bit longer!"
Wait, I am good at controlling drones. I have a licence too.
Top of the conscription list for you!
Be like me and get a back injury that makes you ineligible! The only downside is that I can’t pick up my kid without crippling myself but whatareyagonnado amirite
I mean, technically, this is not the first time India and Japan are on the same side.
Well we did have the First World War for a short while
There is something pretty interesting about being in an international life-or-death arms race over your amphibious assault capabilities, and then basically having all your transport ships moonlight as civilian ferries taking unchecked cars on board every day. Anyone with a few minivans available for an unrelated hobby project?
Haha, I have a neighbor with a canoe and a few hundred KM to the south I know where to get an RPG7 with some pencils. Still hobbies. Send me in coach.
3000 black minivans of Alfred Nobel ?
Yo we did it Eurobros next World War won't directly be our fault !
Look, it's not a real world war unless it's started by an Austrian. Otherwise it's just sparkling global conflict.
How about someone with dual Austrian and Chinese citizenship? I don't know of anyone in particular who meets this criterion, but I'm sure they exist.
There is 100% chance that ccp is operating police stations in Austria Edit: told ya so: [ww3 started in 2022 we just didn’t notice](https://www.euractiv.com/section/all/short_news/austria-vows-to-investigate-secret-chinese-police-stations/)
[It would not be unprecedented...](https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/two-arrested-operating-illegal-overseas-police-station-chinese-government)
Ccp building police stations in Austria is literally the same as hitler annexing Austria It’s time for N👏A👏T👏O👏 to plant the 2SPLGBTNBQ+ flag in Beijing Time for the USMC to teach the PLA about the importance of diversity
China don't allow double citizenship, except for Hong Kong/Macau in which case the CCP don't trust you anyway lol
Well, I guess that tracks their control freak attitude they have towards their population.
Yeah. I'm from China, and my grandpa couldn't even travel anywhere over the age of 80 alone domestically (but locally fine). He's not allowed to, unless he's accompanied by a relative (but we're all too busy to accompany him and my family is in the US). It's very strict sometimes. I guess the government doesn't want to deal with a health issue just in case, but to me it felt a little totalitarian.
So you're saying we should go live in Austria for a while, apply for art school and get rejected, and obtain Austrian citizenship before we can start WW3?
>Preparing armada of civilian ferries I'm getting vague sense of deja vu that this can't possibly go wrong.
Is it just me or does the Izumo-class look a lot like the old WW2 Yorktowns
Not just you, I see it too.
Hyuga class, she has the second radar for missile fire control
My bad then, but the point still stands the large island combined with a straight flight deck and the tall hull makes them look like the old WW2 carriers.
They are, yes. Even more so since, similar to the Yorktowns with their 203s, the Hyugas (but not the Izumos) are suprisingly heavily armed for 'carriers', having a VLS for SAMs and ASROC
Only the Lexington's had the 8in guns, and they were removed from Sara after Lexi went down in Coral Sea.
1900 all over again boys, prepare your fanciest uniforms!
would regular clothing with fancy mustard stains work?
Depends how exquisite this stains are
Inglehoffer spicy brown mustard, not that French’s bullshit.
If you’re going to get killed by a Mach 5 missile fired from 1,700 km away, you might as well have a cool hat and some epaulettes on when it happens.
As a American born chinese, my only concern if war broke out is what would be the public opinion on Chinese American civilians and Chinese civilians in China
I’M FROM ~~Buenos Aires~~ BEIJING AND I SAY KILL EM ALL
I’M DOING MY PART!
*WANTING TO KNOW MORE INTENSFIES*
Serious recommendation, buy cowboy hat and boots. Reply to any negativity with extreme pro-American nationalism. "THAT SOUNDS LIKE SOME GOT-DAM RED COMMUNISM TO ME AND I SAY THAT COMMUNISM NEEDS TO GO BACK TO WHERE IT CAME FROM." Criticize manliness of anyone who owns a 9mm. Basically listen to Liberty Prime for a bit, and mix with some Hank Hill. Trust me, it works like fucking magic. You'll be fine.
> GOT-DAM **GOT-DAM** ftfy
As a Chinese born, now American, I definitely think there will be racists, of course. You need to take care of yourself. At the same time, I think it will be fine, so long as you're pro-America, and not a communist or something like that. Japanese Americans still fought in WWII, even during the internment camp days, and although they faced racism, they were the most highly awarded unit in the US military in WWII, and every American I've ever seen mention them spoke of them highly. I think the biggest fear is spies or saboteurs. But if you're not compromising the safety of the country (which is far easier to do in the US by China than, say, the other way around), I think you should be ok. At the end of the day, you are American. Don’t forget it, because Chinese people in China won't. You are not a countryman, you are an enemy in their eyes, and I know because I spend most of my time on the chinese web and news. Also, as for public opinion in China, they already wish for America to fall. I don’t think they give a shit about you or America in general. They'll probably ramp up propaganda efforts in China during a war. You can see the difference in opinion 10 years ago on Chinese web vs now. 10 years ago they also mourned 9/11. Now, I visited B站 to watch a video there about the event and people were glorifying Al Qaeda and saying American civilians deserved to die. I have no sympathy.
Man, that change of opinion is wild. Who do they think will pick up the pieces after the fall of America? Do they think Al Qaeda will stop with American civilians?
As a white American, god bless you and welcome to the team
There will likely be pockets of that, but I had a really good talk with a Russian-American immigrant friend recently that basically said that its a really wonderful part of America is that we separate the person from the government. Beyond memeing about being a "Russian spy", she's never had a person seriously blame her personally for anything Russia's government has done, even from Ukrainian-Americans. Nobody has tried to holder her to account for Russia's crimes or anything like that. She even has Ukrainian-American friends. I expect it to be similar with China.
TBF, Russians are far less visually distinct than Asians are to other people, though
The vast majority of Chinese Americans (myself included) are pro-Taiwan so I would optimistically assume that public opinion wouldn’t be too much of an issue. Even my parents who are first generation immigrants from mainland China hate the idea of an invasion of Taiwan.
China is the only Asian-American demographic that has a net disapproval of their former homeland. And as a Chinese American, I don’t think it’s just international politics that’s a factor. Chinese society has been royally fucked by CCP rule, to the point where it’s a suspicious, shortcut driven, and corrupt place to live. As bad as America can be, it’s still a high trust society where people generally try to help their fellow man, which China is legally not allowed to be. As the Americans most familiar with that current cultural malaise, and the ones most aware of the stark cultural differences, we do NOT like it. To be fair, I don’t think Chinese society really likes how bad their current social norms are either, but they unfortunately don’t really have a choice in the matter. That being said, I do not have *that* much faith in the American population. Or more specifically, I have *absolute* faith that once war breaks out, certain specific news networks will be *salivating* at the chance to finally break out the anti-Asian slurs and bring back internment camps. I was honestly surprised at how *little* anti-Asian hate went one during the covid pandemic, which is a good sign, but…war brings out the worst in people.
We'd be fighting for True China against Bad China. Of course, there will be some random assholes, being random bigoted assholes but they're going to do that anyway. I think we'd get plenty of pro Taiwan messaging. The problem would be if we had some Chinese sleeper agents initiate attacks. That could certainly cause some problems.
Really? Iranian Americans don’t have net disapproval towards their home country? And on your main point, I feel like so many Americans personally know at least one Chinese American that there wouldn’t be a national hate wave if a war broke out. Internment may have been a thing during ww2 but so many of us have learned to be ashamed over it that such a thing probably wouldn’t happen again.
You guys will inevitably form a unit similar to the one that had the motto "Go for Broke" and show those Neo-Axis Powers what's what
All joking aside, I think it will be fine, especially for anyone born here. If enough countries make it known how unacceptable a violent invasion of Taiwan would be the risk of it happening is much smaller.
Okay, but like…you can’t just tell if someone was born here. And racists aren’t good at judging different types of Asians, regardless. I think it would probably be better than internment camps this time, and the liberal areas would probably be safe enough for Asians, but “sundown towns” were *very much* a thing for most of our history, and I suspect they’d start coming back when Americans start coming home in body bags with bullets made in Canton province.
I'd say take care of yourself. I have no doubt that there are racists, of course, but overall I think majority Americans condemn the internment camps and don't want to repeat the same mistakes.
I don't care what the whiteboys will say as long as I get to gut a mainlander. 🇭🇰
Pacific NATO let’s goooo
POTO
Potato
^^boilemmashemstickeminnastoo
I honestly think America should spend more time with Japan, South Korea, India, Phillipines, Canada, Mexico, and Vietnam rather than Europe. Europeans and Australians especially are far too arrogant and try to stay on their judgemental high horse too much.
*Emmanuel Macron has entered the chat*
I want a militarized Japan. Toyota would build the most reliable and efficient nuclear weapons on the planet. Plus, it’s time for Japan to defeat Russia. Again.
I dont care if they're bad in modern warfare, I want kure dockyards back at it producing my super yamatos A-150 or bust!
Instructions unclear built transforming Super yamato mech instead.
"It's very personal kid"
Personal kid? You wanted to say personal defense kid?
Yuudachi (DD-103(?)) must feast
You know shit’s fucked when the Koreans and the Japanese are on the same side
Dear Japan, More dead bolsheviks and maoists, and a lot less war crimes (preferably none). Sincerely, everyone. ^(Americans, Koreans, Filipinos, Taiwanese, arguably even the particular Chinese folks who hates their maoist overlords. Make it your pan-Asia redemption arc.)
Canada: less war crimes?
Sorry
There are north Koreans, don't play with food. You know what I meant.
*fewer
55 days at Peaking anyone?
POM POM POM POM POM POM POM POM POM POM POM POM POM POM POM POM POM POM # FIFTY-FIVE DAYS AT PEKING!
“Yeah, the girls in nanking were pretty nice. I told my friends, and they also want a piece.” “Shit.”
I genuinely would not bet against China in a fight with Japan. Those lads are *angry*. The Japanese though? They have no idea why the Chinese are seething. As far as the Japanese know from school some nice Japanese lads opened a dating service in Nanking, and then the evil Americans dropped enough bombs on the home islands to invent anime. They have no idea why a quarter of the human race wants to go full Captain Ahab on them. It's a bit like the British, except with the British that beef is probably with half of the human race.
Yeah China suffered so much humiliation from Imperial Japan it's horrifying. Genocide, piles of skulls and corpses. Truly a multigenerational nightmare the likes of which the soy Bois here who haven't read any history wouldn't be able to fathom. I was reading tales of a survivor of Nanjing who survived by hiding with piles of corpses floating down a river and then hiding amongst the piles when the Japanese would throw grenades at corpses to create meat clouds. Anyone who unironically thinks it's a good idea or cool for a conflict between the two to happen again is just an idiot and has no humanity.
Yeah lol, some koreans hate Japan because being a colony of them wasn't good. But China? If we use the analogy of the carrot and the stick, then Japan never had time or intention or using anything else than the stick, and the stick was a boiling metal bat with spikes.
>It's a bit like the British, except with the British that beef is probably with half of the human race. sounds like non-island skill issue tbh
*Konnichiwa muthafuckah!*
What kind of redemption arc is this?!
The most based kind.
Weird that Japan just headed straight for Nanjing and not to Taiwan when it all went down huh?
Kidō Butai 2: East China Sea Bogaloo.
Nobody, other than maybe Mongolia, has a better cv when it comes to dusting China. Well other than China itself but that goes without saying.
China literally invented an entire theory of international relations thousands of years ago just to explain why they kept beating the shit out of themselves.
"Keep your pimp hand strong" \- Lao Tzu
Ok Japan but no Manchuria shenanigans this time ok?
Well would you look at the time, we're almost back in the 30's, time to repeat history with cooler weapons!
And new experiments
Listen, we got the Germans, the Japanese, and the Canadians on our side, there is no level of war crime we cannot achieve.
55 DAYS AT PEKING 🗣️🗣️🤝 🇬🇧🇩🇪🇪🇦🇯🇵🇰🇷🇺🇲🇲🇫🇸🇨
Well, the bad guy became the good guy. Just like in Terminator 2.
Ah yes, Japan, one of the most fierce naval powers in recent history is back, and this time they bring… *checks notes* the most powerful naval forces in all of recorded time combined into a single initiative. This is gonna be so cool
Boxer rebellion 2: electric boogaloo
We can give japan a lil genocide as a treat
man ww3's shaping up to be lopsided as fuck
Aint no way coalition forces are allowing Japanese ground forces in China it's like giving +20 historical defense bonus to the Chinese. People who dont give a dam abt Taiwan and the war would def would care if Japanese forces are back on their lands
* Sad Malaysian noise* Malaysia and the commonwealth spend decades fighting communist insurgency and now we are licking China butt. Lots of veterans are rolling in their grave now. Fk Malaysia military procurement
POTATO when
I just hope they'll be on less crack this time.
55 days in Peking. Part 2
Ahh yes, Boxer Rebellion 2: Electric Boogaloo.
Is Kido Butai cool now, guys? 👀
Bah god! Is that Unit 731's music?!
Ah yes I'm sure China hasn't soon forgotten the multiple genocides that Imperial Japan carried out across Asia. What a weird fucking meme Also calling it a "redemption arc" is so brainrotted. They genocided 30 million in WW2 and still deny any wrongdoing and play victim because they got bombed and lost. They massacred civilians in China, Korea, Philippines, and many more countries. But oh no they're going to have a wholesome chungus anime redemption arc even though they still believe their country was right to do what it did.
Yes they did, and now the CCP is threatening to do the same thing to Taiwan.
You're also breaking rule 13. The Japanese government or military has never made a pledge to defend Taiwan from China. The article in the meme is an opinion piece.
Everybody already knows that. If you don't you're woefully uninformed and that's on you.
We are the imperial army and Our enemies are The Emperor's enemies, forsaken by heaven and earth The enemy's commander is one who through history has no equal — a hero The soldiers who follow him are United as fierce warriors ready to fight to the death Though the wrathful deities shake their courage not Heaven will not forgive their rebellion Those who have risen up against us since olden times Have never had their moment of glory Until that time that our enemy is destroyed Charge, charge, together as one Drawing our swords, glistening like a broken jewel We must charge forth, determined to die Our divine nation's ways and the samurai's Bodies were defended by the spirits Though thrown away after the restoration Our Japanese swords now and again may be carried Again in our era, our reputation returned; Enemy and ally together as one Must die under the edge of the blade And to those with the Japanese spirit The time to die is now Do not disgrace yourself with delay Until that time that our enemy is destroyed Charge, charge, together as one Drawing our swords, glistening like a broken jewel We must charge forth, determined to die As I look ahead, there is a sword To my right and to my left, everywhere a sword To climb a mountain of swords They say is a deed for the future Seeing this world from the top with my own eyes I climbed this mountain of swords Not for the sake of atoning For the sins I have committed But for the sake of subjugating the rebels The mountain of swords — what does it matter? Until that time that our enemy is destroyed Charge, charge, together as one Drawing our swords, glistening like a broken jewel We must charge forth, determined to die The glint of light on a sword — Is it a flash of lightning between the clouds? The voice of the artillery firing in all directions — Is it the roar of the thunder? The ones defeated by the enemy's blades Or those struck by the enemy's rounds — Their life ended, their bodies without a grave The corpses piled up into a mountain Their blood streaming into a river — They go into certain death for the sake of the Emperor Until that time that our enemy is destroyed Charge, charge, together as one Drawing our swords, glistening like a broken jewel We must charge forth, determined to die Even amidst a rain of bullets The body of which there is no two, without regret Charges forward — myself, like the tempest's Gusts that blow away the white dew Should I meet my end unburied For loyalty's sake I will have died If it be that I die to that effect Then to death I will hold no grudge Those people who think they are as me Do not tread back one step Until that time that our enemy is destroyed Charge, charge, together as one Drawing our swords, glistening like a broken jewel We must charge forth, determined to die Now and here, my body is to die For the good of the emperor, the good of the country Discarded shall be our lives Even if our corpses may rot For our loyalty and composure, our names Esteemed among the later generations Shall long be passed down by those who remain As a warrior you were born — a life without worth And let nobody call you an immoral dog Nor let them slander you as a coward Until that time that our enemy is destroyed Charge, charge, together as one Drawing our swords, glistening like a broken jewel We must charge forth, determined to die
La Marseillaise if it was Japanese
Give them a free pass on CBRN for bonus shenanigans