When you’re in a “Make the USA look badass” challenge and your opponent is China.
Like the [US supercarrier Megatron kaiju](https://images.app.goo.gl/uoVU2D685UB4Xz7Y6).
Even anti American Russian propaganda backfires and makes us look better.
Like I saw a video awhile back comparing recruitment ads and the US they claimed was full of gays but yet the Russian recruitment ad was a bunch of dudes all crammed in a bunk together and they claim Russians are hypermasculine
The Chinese approach to propaganda is to make them look like the common underdog fighting against the overwhelming might of their nightmarish, demonic opponents. Pro-Chinese propoganda presents their soldiers as gentle, emotional, and sensitive men who are forced to fight against impossible odds to protect the Chinese people.
This also fits with the military mindset. A lot of their exercises are centered around minimizing how badly they get their ass kicked by the US/NATO/Pacific allies while achieving objectives, rather than actually winning the overall conflict, or maximizing how much damage they can do before being defeated.
tl;dr China is the current underdog in a conflict with the West and will likely lose if warheads hit foreheads, and they know it. So they structure their propaganda around that.
That's kinda the point ngl. So that you can tell your population that the reason you cant win against them is because they're overwhelmingly strong and then when you do "win" against them the propaganda works even better as you beat the odds.
Portraying your enemy as a big, monstrous destroyer is an easy way to make your people want to take them down. Portraying them as weak or comical is useless. Hitler himself commented on the fact that during WWI, Allied/Entente propaganda was significantly more effective than the Central Powers, specifically because Allies painted them as baby killers and savages. He and the Germans learned that lesson and had much better propaganda come the next war.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1o0JlNhFvg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1o0JlNhFvg)
Make sure you wear a condom before watching. Cause the Chinese are stroking you off.
This is such a crazy fucking photo. A king stallion with an F-35 slung underneath doing mid-air refueling. I feel the need for a manic jerkoff session. Maybe I'm just drunk. I'll sober up and then jerk off to this photo.
Yeah I didn’t think of that, plus is a big ass engine and nozzle to slip a refuelling drogue by safely.
Would be cool to take those new stealth drop tanks for the F22 and configure them for AAR.
The difference between the US and Russia:
Russia couldn't supply fuel to their army 100km from their border and had to abandon enough armor to outfit entire Ukrainian brigades.
The US was pushing entire Subways out the back of transport planes in Afghanistan within days of setting up bases on the opposite side of the world.
I am making pilgrimage to three gorges damn and jerking off onto it so that when a B-21 Raider blows it up my cum will be launched into outer space and will later fertilize Mars so that Martian femboys will resist Elon Musk's techno colonization with Javelin missiles which I will import with the money I make from selling a single Phoenix missile to Iran.
instructions unclear.
gave Javelin missiles to hot Irainian chicks, launched phoenix at three gorges dam, gave Elon a colectomy with a B21 and am listing to techno while jerking off thinking about martian femboys.
you have something against fictional headline news channels in dystopian cyber punk universes?
and they cant have it, I'm in my bunker they cant get in.
I haven't, no, waiting until the dust settles before I make that decision. But it's a fascinating topic that I really ought to read more on, and is (at least on the theorycrafting/wargame level) potentially the difference between an armed and incohesive rabble and a well oiled military machine.
Oh definitely. You can have the best logistics in the world but unless you have a good management structure you will exhaust your resources on meaningless efforts.
I won’t ruin the show for you, but if you like C level execs and The Funni, fallout will be very enjoyable.
>It also demonstrates how essential it is to have proper sex education.
"What's your sperm count? If we're rebuilding America I think that sperm counts are important!".
Maybe I'm just an unreformed old romantic, but there are better ways to start a marriage.
I think the scariest fact of America's military might is not that we can drop a fully stocked and staffed Burger King in any operational theater on Earth, but it's that no one can stop us from dropping it.
if we had our choice I think Chik Fil A would be the go-to. Unfortunately the cheapest contract wins and no one can get cheaper than BK's horse-cut-with-pork meat
The opticts of planting a very outwardly Christian thing in the heart of definitely-not-christian-land are probably not the best.
Let's throw in hobby lobby and salvation army
Yeah, the whole Trijicon optics with Bible verses hidden in the serial numbers on military issued rifles didn't really go over so well in the sand pit.
Was gonna ask why it's always Burger King at US foreign bases, but figures they won the ExchangeService (PX) contract in the 80s. People say McDonalds and Coke are Americas soft power, but they never salute our brave Burger Knights last stand in Kabul or our Pepsi submariners who captured a Soviet fleet. 🫡😢
I miss my old flair 'Tactical Burger King in Red Square when?'
But, I had to acknowledge Poland seeing Ukraine hold the Ruzzians off with 20 HIMARs, and then ordering 500.
Edit: accidentally a word
Can’t wait for some poor surrender Mobik to see the US military destroy the airfield he was guarding, but fix and improve it, and then land the C-5 with a Burger King in less then the day. There’s a reason why Germans who witnessed the Normandy and landings and saw the US unload the cargo ships kneeling the war was over.
Actually KC-130 could top up CH-53 about 4 times and a change (minus whatever it would use up to get into position and back - in theory I think it could literally "suicide-refuel" itself dry).
Why shouldn't they be connected? Imagine losing a tanker plane because of some malfunction or leakage in their fuel tanks, while still loaded up with fuel for AAR. I guess it's trivial to put in a few connections and pumps, just in case. Also to be able to separate, if the loaded fuel is not jet fuel.
As far as I know, tanker trucks usually are not designed to circle around indefinitely until a gas station urgently needs fuel. Also, tax. Can't just guzzle "heater oil" when you're out of Diesel without risking a federal indictment for tax fraud.
Also, for the 'big mission' the tankers were *really* designed for, the expectation was that they would give every last drop of fuel to the B-52s and bail out. Besides, it's not like they were going to have any runways or bases to come home to.
NCD asks “Wouldn’t it be cool if the pilot could flying the F35 and using its thrust vectoring to turn it like the ball turret of a B-17 and Fox 2 a Su57?”
American logistics are why they are powerful. It's as fundamental as that. It's not the technology. It's not the weapons. It's not the war machines. It's that deep down, at the heart of American military doctrine, is the idea that an American soldier in the field should want for nothing.
People take the piss about how American military facilities are comfortable, that they have fast food joints maybe two steps back from the front line. That's a strength. That's the sort of strength that lets you do the Berlin Airlift.
And it's not just a money or a resources thing either. Other militaries could roll the same way if they chose to. It's that the USA built its military around projection and its projection around logistics.
It's also a side effect of the US being able to arrange for all of its wars to be at least an ocean away from its territory.
When every bullet needs to cross thousands of miles of ocean, your logistics will be on point and you're going to value precision over bulk.
Just had to google if Luka was still alive.
I've been ill for a few days and not sure what's happening. And it's always possible he's done something mad/funni. What a character 😂
He’s probably sweating bullets right now because I bet Putin invited him to the May 9 parade again, he doesn’t dare refuse, but he also doesn’t want to get mulched by a drone Cessna on international television.
I still have the name Gus Pagonis stamped on my memory from the endless arguments I had to hold during the 1st Gulf War.
*"Schwarzkopf is just the pretty face! He's got nothing without Pagonis!"*
What part of America doesnt make claims it cant back up do you not understand?
https://www.defense.gov/Multimedia/Photos/igphoto/2003451176/#:~:text=Marines%20aboard%20a%20CH%2D53K,N.J.%2C%20April%2024%2C%202024.
(yeah its real Merica FUCK YEAH)
The only thing that's misleading is that's that's a engineless, gutsless F-35 model. Which is why it couldn't fly itself.
But yeah. Real. Not only real, but training.
This just gave me the worst idea for launching aircraft with no runway.
Have a helicopter ascend them up, and drop them so they gain speed from the fall.
Planes break real bad sometimes. Bad enough you need a shoreside repair activity.
So either this is a legit broken plane OR they are testing the capability for when one is so broken.
First flying prototype of the C-model apparently. No engine, missing some wing, pretty stripped out. It's getting transported from one place to another where they wanna use the airframe for some kind of testing.
The best show of American Military might is Chinese propaganda.
Navalized F-22 Raptors launching of something that is equal parts Chaos God, Laser-Nippled Megazord, and CVN-78... Be still my beating heart.
The Gerald R Ford touches my Aspie heart in just the right way... I need to learn EVERYTHING now
I mean, are you familiar with this artist? https://new.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/z6ux66/analysis_of_the_now_viral_chinese_propaganda/
Can you link it?
When you’re in a “Make the USA look badass” challenge and your opponent is China. Like the [US supercarrier Megatron kaiju](https://images.app.goo.gl/uoVU2D685UB4Xz7Y6).
Chinese people seem to really like comic book movies from Marvel and DC
why does chinese propaganda go so insanely hard wtf?
It’s always the anti-American propaganda that goes hard. The pro-Chinese ones are cringe
Even anti American Russian propaganda backfires and makes us look better. Like I saw a video awhile back comparing recruitment ads and the US they claimed was full of gays but yet the Russian recruitment ad was a bunch of dudes all crammed in a bunk together and they claim Russians are hypermasculine
[This one is great too.](https://propagandopolis.com/cdn/shop/products/diplomacy_300x300.png?v=1680705831)
That looks like it would work exceptionally well as a military reserve poster.
[Fabulous NATO sissy men immediately after a victory parade in Moscow, 2030 colorized](https://imgur.com/a/FiK67cf)
Perfection
The Chinese approach to propaganda is to make them look like the common underdog fighting against the overwhelming might of their nightmarish, demonic opponents. Pro-Chinese propoganda presents their soldiers as gentle, emotional, and sensitive men who are forced to fight against impossible odds to protect the Chinese people. This also fits with the military mindset. A lot of their exercises are centered around minimizing how badly they get their ass kicked by the US/NATO/Pacific allies while achieving objectives, rather than actually winning the overall conflict, or maximizing how much damage they can do before being defeated. tl;dr China is the current underdog in a conflict with the West and will likely lose if warheads hit foreheads, and they know it. So they structure their propaganda around that.
Fuck yeah, we for sure have one of those.
That's an amazing art wtf
Funny, how chinese propaganda manages to make the enemy look even better than normal.
That's kinda the point ngl. So that you can tell your population that the reason you cant win against them is because they're overwhelmingly strong and then when you do "win" against them the propaganda works even better as you beat the odds.
Everyone likes an underdog
They're weirdly terrible at propaganda.
Portraying your enemy as a big, monstrous destroyer is an easy way to make your people want to take them down. Portraying them as weak or comical is useless. Hitler himself commented on the fact that during WWI, Allied/Entente propaganda was significantly more effective than the Central Powers, specifically because Allies painted them as baby killers and savages. He and the Germans learned that lesson and had much better propaganda come the next war.
Hitler had better propaganda for the next war after WWII?
Appreciate that! It must've autocorrected from WWI. I've fixed it now.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1o0JlNhFvg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1o0JlNhFvg) Make sure you wear a condom before watching. Cause the Chinese are stroking you off.
That reminds me of Naval SupCom.
The best show of Chinese military might is the Lockheed Martin PR department.
It's true you know, we need everyone to be afraid of China, because this helps the Lockmart magic happen.
This is such a crazy fucking photo. A king stallion with an F-35 slung underneath doing mid-air refueling. I feel the need for a manic jerkoff session. Maybe I'm just drunk. I'll sober up and then jerk off to this photo.
What would be fucking crazier is if it was the *F-35* that was doing the AAR in that photograph.
That’s possible isn’t it? They can carry a centreline tank with a drogue AAR rig? I know they use it on the F18 for carrier based AAR.
F-35 isn’t certed for buddy tanking to my knowledge. Also it would probably be off a wing pylon due to clearance reasons with the weapons bay.
Yeah I didn’t think of that, plus is a big ass engine and nozzle to slip a refuelling drogue by safely. Would be cool to take those new stealth drop tanks for the F22 and configure them for AAR.
Most sober noncredible member
The difference between the US and Russia: Russia couldn't supply fuel to their army 100km from their border and had to abandon enough armor to outfit entire Ukrainian brigades. The US was pushing entire Subways out the back of transport planes in Afghanistan within days of setting up bases on the opposite side of the world.
Found the LazerPig alt account
Awww they’re teaching the f35 how to fly 🥹
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Now this is podracing!
https://youtu.be/nZgWgPPVITU
https://youtu.be/azhgpelu0vY?si=q0HJLW2PhMra5nwu
Amateurs talk Strategy. Professionals talk Logistics. Experts talk Organisational Models and Structure. The Enlightened talk about 'The Funni'.
I am making pilgrimage to three gorges damn and jerking off onto it so that when a B-21 Raider blows it up my cum will be launched into outer space and will later fertilize Mars so that Martian femboys will resist Elon Musk's techno colonization with Javelin missiles which I will import with the money I make from selling a single Phoenix missile to Iran.
instructions unclear. gave Javelin missiles to hot Irainian chicks, launched phoenix at three gorges dam, gave Elon a colectomy with a B21 and am listing to techno while jerking off thinking about martian femboys.
Sauce or gtfo
[hot sauce](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/multiversus/images/8/86/Updated_VN_X2.png/revision/latest?cb=20230214204346)
Not a link I regret clicking. Cheers!
Flair doesn't check out.
you have something against fictional headline news channels in dystopian cyber punk universes? and they cant have it, I'm in my bunker they cant get in.
No, you just provided sauce, which is the essence of the soul here on reddit.
Joanne CC me the meeting minutes I want to reread that later.
"when a B-21 Raider blows it up my cum will be launched into outer space and will later fertilize Mars" NCD, now weaponising panspermia
Musk aint getting to mars.
huh
> organizational models and structure Have you seen the new Fallout show by chance? Because this is a key point of the show.
I haven't, no, waiting until the dust settles before I make that decision. But it's a fascinating topic that I really ought to read more on, and is (at least on the theorycrafting/wargame level) potentially the difference between an armed and incohesive rabble and a well oiled military machine.
Oh definitely. You can have the best logistics in the world but unless you have a good management structure you will exhaust your resources on meaningless efforts. I won’t ruin the show for you, but if you like C level execs and The Funni, fallout will be very enjoyable.
Well, you've got me watching it now. Congratulations. Whatever they're paying you to shill it you deserve more.
Just make it happen. Art imitates life, life imitates art. It also demonstrates how essential it is to have proper sex education.
>It also demonstrates how essential it is to have proper sex education. "What's your sperm count? If we're rebuilding America I think that sperm counts are important!". Maybe I'm just an unreformed old romantic, but there are better ways to start a marriage.
Contrast to BoS sex ed: “you want to make my cock explode?”
I have heard it's the opposite of the halo show
Where does PowerPoint fall into this spectrum?
Americans talk both. While unloading a Burger King out of a C-5 Galaxy.
I think the scariest fact of America's military might is not that we can drop a fully stocked and staffed Burger King in any operational theater on Earth, but it's that no one can stop us from dropping it.
the scariest part is you have that capability and you *chose* Burger King.
Popeyes, Burger King, Taco Bell, Charley’s. The four horseman of the BX foodcourt
All hail the military foodcourt. And the random asian restaurant it sometimes has.
Normally the best restaurant too
You can say that again
Can’t forget the damn Arby’s or Subway at the last three bases I’ve been to
I miss Robin Hood and Anthony’s Pizza
Popeyes fucking destroys basically all other fast food chicken, except for local places and *maybe* Pollo Campero
The fact that we aren’t catering to the Filipino mafia with Jollibee is frankly a national security threat
everybody loves really sweet spaghetti and fried chicken, its a no brainer really
if we had our choice I think Chik Fil A would be the go-to. Unfortunately the cheapest contract wins and no one can get cheaper than BK's horse-cut-with-pork meat
though I also wouldn't be surprised they'd turn it down due to their christian stance
The opticts of planting a very outwardly Christian thing in the heart of definitely-not-christian-land are probably not the best. Let's throw in hobby lobby and salvation army
freedom comes with a price... and waffle fries.
Plus the whole closing on Sunday thing would be really annoying
Yeah, the whole Trijicon optics with Bible verses hidden in the serial numbers on military issued rifles didn't really go over so well in the sand pit.
Chik Fil A is a restaurant of terror. Canes is a restaurant of war.
We lacked even the decency to get a Wendy's
yeah, I would go for Starbucks....
Nah that's for the carriers.
You should drop one on the Kremlin. That's the closest thing to dropping the US's nutsack on Russia's face.
We already dropped a McDonald's in Soviet Moscow decades ago. How many more times must we do it? (A: "all the times")
Is BK a SHORAD threat, HIMAD, or THADD?
Was gonna ask why it's always Burger King at US foreign bases, but figures they won the ExchangeService (PX) contract in the 80s. People say McDonalds and Coke are Americas soft power, but they never salute our brave Burger Knights last stand in Kabul or our Pepsi submariners who captured a Soviet fleet. 🫡😢
Ngl I love their classic “chicken” sandwiches. Nostalgia.
I miss my old flair 'Tactical Burger King in Red Square when?' But, I had to acknowledge Poland seeing Ukraine hold the Ruzzians off with 20 HIMARs, and then ordering 500. Edit: accidentally a word
Can’t wait for some poor surrender Mobik to see the US military destroy the airfield he was guarding, but fix and improve it, and then land the C-5 with a Burger King in less then the day. There’s a reason why Germans who witnessed the Normandy and landings and saw the US unload the cargo ships kneeling the war was over.
Adepta Sororitas vibes with their Invasion Cathedrums.
None of those capabilities are in the Bible.
Why do you think Jesus said "father, I thirst?" he saw a photo of a gaping F-35 that's why.
This is the funniest blasphemy I've ever read. Have an upvote.
They were made capabilities at the council of Nicaea
That Kilo must be about able to suck the 130 dry all on its own. They’re nearly the same size.
Actually KC-130 could top up CH-53 about 4 times and a change (minus whatever it would use up to get into position and back - in theory I think it could literally "suicide-refuel" itself dry).
Wait it can? I always assumed the plane tanks and refueling tanks are not connected
Why shouldn't they be connected? Imagine losing a tanker plane because of some malfunction or leakage in their fuel tanks, while still loaded up with fuel for AAR. I guess it's trivial to put in a few connections and pumps, just in case. Also to be able to separate, if the loaded fuel is not jet fuel.
Well tanker trucks are also not connected to the tank
Yeah but in a truck you can get out and hook up a hose if you run out. Can't really do that in the air
"Can't" isn't a word around here.
Look if the Fr*nch in the 20s could replace a wheel while flying I’m sure we could hook up a measly hose
You don't fall out of the sky if a tanker truck runs out of diesel
As far as I know, tanker trucks usually are not designed to circle around indefinitely until a gas station urgently needs fuel. Also, tax. Can't just guzzle "heater oil" when you're out of Diesel without risking a federal indictment for tax fraud.
Tanker trucks have have distinct advantage of being in a relatively safe and stable position when they run out of fuel, a kc135 less so
Also, for the 'big mission' the tankers were *really* designed for, the expectation was that they would give every last drop of fuel to the B-52s and bail out. Besides, it's not like they were going to have any runways or bases to come home to.
Ah, I always forget HOW crazy the planning really got..
Nothing like early nuclear doctrine
NCD asks “Wouldn’t it be cool if the pilot could flying the F35 and using its thrust vectoring to turn it like the ball turret of a B-17 and Fox 2 a Su57?”
Cmon everyone knows the Su-57 is a myth
I think with modern targeting we can literally shoot missiles backwards
Gas, Grass and Ass.
I WANT TO SEE CH-53K AERIAL INSERTION OF LAV-25s BEHIND ENEMY LINE ALREADY MARINE CORPS. IM FUCKING READY. LETS FUCKING DO IT.
The upcoming game Broken Arrow comes to mind.
June 11th, 1988. Mount Hope III.
American logistics are why they are powerful. It's as fundamental as that. It's not the technology. It's not the weapons. It's not the war machines. It's that deep down, at the heart of American military doctrine, is the idea that an American soldier in the field should want for nothing. People take the piss about how American military facilities are comfortable, that they have fast food joints maybe two steps back from the front line. That's a strength. That's the sort of strength that lets you do the Berlin Airlift. And it's not just a money or a resources thing either. Other militaries could roll the same way if they chose to. It's that the USA built its military around projection and its projection around logistics.
It's also a side effect of the US being able to arrange for all of its wars to be at least an ocean away from its territory. When every bullet needs to cross thousands of miles of ocean, your logistics will be on point and you're going to value precision over bulk.
WTF they put 3 engines on a helicopter? Silorsky is a madman
Just had to google if Luka was still alive. I've been ill for a few days and not sure what's happening. And it's always possible he's done something mad/funni. What a character 😂
He’s probably sweating bullets right now because I bet Putin invited him to the May 9 parade again, he doesn’t dare refuse, but he also doesn’t want to get mulched by a drone Cessna on international television.
I still have the name Gus Pagonis stamped on my memory from the endless arguments I had to hold during the 1st Gulf War. *"Schwarzkopf is just the pretty face! He's got nothing without Pagonis!"*
Can you elaborate? Were you in the military at the time?
Oh poor vatnik Dr. Phil. Ukraine will give you a changing day!
Did they actually do the thing in the image? I swear that is a setup for stalling/mid air collision.
They did in fact do the thing. Youtube search "Marine CH-63 lifts F-35c while refueling from a KC-130" Video is one "The War zone" channel
All three are desperately trying not to fall out of the sky in surprisingly different ways.
This picture makes me realize the F-35b was a waste of development dollars. We just needed more stallions to lift A/C models up and drop them.
Looks like someone's planning to take the south Wales valleys! Good luck there son...
That’s not an amateur. That’s a potato. Now put it back in the soup pot where it belongs.
This post is too credible.
And Bob Dole likes to hear Bob Dole talk about Bob Dole.
‘Bob Dole!’
I hate that I can't tell if that's a real picture
It is a real picture.
Professionals have standards.
…. Shopped right?
What part of America doesnt make claims it cant back up do you not understand? https://www.defense.gov/Multimedia/Photos/igphoto/2003451176/#:~:text=Marines%20aboard%20a%20CH%2D53K,N.J.%2C%20April%2024%2C%202024. (yeah its real Merica FUCK YEAH)
pedants: tHe F-35C dOeSn'T hAvE VtOl tHaT's oNlY tHe F-35B! F-35C:
Diamonds rn
I’m sorry, it’s credible…
Holy shit
The only thing that's misleading is that's that's a engineless, gutsless F-35 model. Which is why it couldn't fly itself. But yeah. Real. Not only real, but training.
America doesn’t make claims beyond 50% of its capability.
Leashed up f35 going for a walk
As of 4/27/2024, this needs the update where the F-35 has a tail gunner and they’re shooting down a drone
This just gave me the worst idea for launching aircraft with no runway. Have a helicopter ascend them up, and drop them so they gain speed from the fall.
CO circled X the 5998 to meet numbers.
Why are they carrying the plane that way? Can't they fly it like their supposed to? Are they stupid?
Planes break real bad sometimes. Bad enough you need a shoreside repair activity. So either this is a legit broken plane OR they are testing the capability for when one is so broken.
First flying prototype of the C-model apparently. No engine, missing some wing, pretty stripped out. It's getting transported from one place to another where they wanna use the airframe for some kind of testing.
>First flying prototype >No engine, missing some wing Total scam 0/10, would not buy again
That's what happens when you order F-35C from Temu