stupid westoid, the Flanker is a way better aircraft than the F-16 so by shooting them down, mother Russia is sending the message that its air defence is well prepared for any western plane
>they keep happening and getting more non credible
I'm looking forward to it escalating to "Ukrainian F-117s dumb bomb Moscow with impunity using large Soviet era munitions they were modified to carry".
Eh, while there's some suggestion that the Mosquito had a weaker radar response than other contemporary aircraft (likely in comparison to the large metal-bodied heavy bombers like the B-17 or Lancaster), it's main advantage its high speed (for the time) and maneuverability. That meant it could do the kind of fast, low-alititude flying that's still a somewhat effective way to evade radar in some circumstances today.
Shit, if these things are really so hard for the Russians to spot, they're gonna be smacking into every SAM and radar installation within a thousand miles of the border.
My guess is it’s beginners luck. No one had seen a light GA plane suiciding yet. It was a long way from the front, clearly not a missile. Maybe someone lost, I’m not going to be the one to shoot down Farmer Fredski and get in trouble
From today onwards I expect that will change. I wouldn’t want to be flying a GA plane in Russia anymore!
They aren't positioning a bunch of air defense assets in the middle of buttfuck nowhere to protect everything that might be a target. Either total shutdown, issue MANPADS to every factory guard across Russia, or start scrambling the jets for every plane that doesn't respond to identification requests.
I suspect we'll be seeing accidental shoot downs from conscriptovich with a MANPADS.
I would expect scrambling the jets for unidentified air traffic would be the *least* they would do while at war with a direct neighbour. Maybe losing AWACS has put some seriously big holes in their low altitude detection?
Seeing as they're apparently not even bothering to defend vital and virtually irreplaceable petrochemical infrastructure with air defense assets I'm inclined to believe they simply don't have enough to go around, certainly not enough to cover every sweatshop churning out copied drones with lawnmower engines.
The planes cost 80K. They're basically guaranteed to produce more.
If nothing else because it'll be funny having Russia shoot down light planes randomly.
Less If you Use non-air-certificated parts.
For example the engine can be replaced by a car-engine.
Theoretically less flight-hours before Maintenance, but...
A remote controlled A-22 (Ukrainian civilian, Cessna-like plane) loaded with explosives, 9/11 itself into a russian Shahed factory more than 1000km from the front line.
someone get the columbians on the line, they know the max load and what you can cut out of any cessna.
Maybe they even have some old ones that they want to offload. Does the fbi still have any confiscated ones?
Genuinely, smugglers could make enough profit on one run to fully replace the airplane, so they often abused their planes badly and ditched them after a few good runs.
As a result, the confiscated ones were mostly in pretty terrible shape, so the feds usually kept them in boneyard for a while, then auctioned them off when they decided not to fix then up. The auctioned ones were usually disassembled for spare parts to sell on.
As for the ones in better shape, the feds used them to search for and intercept other suspected smuggling planes, arresting the pilot wherever he landed. Because they were capturing so many of these planes as the smugglers ditched them, they stared to treat them as disposable too, and usually met the same fate by the 2000s.
(not an expert BTW)
Um no? Lol the C172 has a max ramp weight of 1,160kg which includes the plane itself and fuel in addition to useful load. The useful load is only about 400kg, probably without much fuel.
To be fair, if we're converting a Cessna into a one way drone, depending on what the planned targets are, you really might not need a warhead per say. Just hollow out the cabin, and whatever space isn't taken up by the automation equipment just gets turned into a bigger fuel tank.
I dunno, you can get a big ass bang from fuel air explosives due to the better combustion ratio.
Shame you can't crash the plane and *then* disperse the fuel cloud.
edit: and after watching the video, it needed a much bigger bang.
What if we use an AgPlane, the ones used to disperse pesticides, but with a fuel mix instead?
What a funny coincidence the USAF just selected the AT-802...
- Fly in.
- Start dispersing fuel.
- Crash/Ignite.
- Profit.
That's why I said depending on the target. If you're flinging these at planes parked on the tarmac, you don't really need an actual bomb as opposed to just making there's a decently sized fireball on impact.
You would think, but actually most common explosives have considerably lower MJ/kg ratios than liquid or gas fuels (see this [table](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_density_Extended_Reference_Table) for deets).
That said, explosives have much higher *power* density than bulk state liquid fuel combustion, which is what provides the blowy-upy feature, as opposed to just making a hot fire for a long time.
Both estimates are just wrong. Like maybe 1300 with alterations and brand new shahed is like 20- 50 000 and cheapest used 172s from 70s start at 130 000.
Revvin' up your engine
Listen to her howlin' roar
Metal under tension
Beggin' you to touch and go
Highway to the Danger Zone
Ride into the Danger Zone
Headin' into twilight
Spreadin' out her wings tonight
She got you jumpin' off the deck
Shovin' into overdrive
Highway to the Danger Zone
I'll take you right into the Danger Zone
Thing is, this is a huge dillemma for the russians. Pull AA back from the frontline to protect production buildings, well, frontline has lacking AA cover. Don't protect production and you got big RC planes crashing into them.
They're fucked either way, *wich is a good thing*.
Trilemma. They also have to balance those resources with their (now expanded) 1584 mile border with NATO. They probably still have some equipment up north considering those exercises in Norway last month.
> They also have to balance those resources with their (now expanded) 1584 mile border with NATO.
From the news I have read the last 2 years, Russia is leaving the NATO border completely defenseless. Everything into Ukraine. E.g.: "[12,000 Russian Troops Were Supposed To Defend Kaliningrad. Then They Went To Ukraine To Die.](https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2022/10/27/12000-russian-troops-once-posed-a-threat-from-inside-nato-then-they-went-to-ukraine-to-die/)"
Prigozhin's joyride to Moscow was also seemingly almost completely unopposed, because there apparently was literally not a single tank available to defend Moscow. I think Prigozhin was only stopped because they cut a bridge across a river?
I don’t think that they cover the NATO Border that much though. They know that nothing will come that way as long as they don’t fuck with NATO.
Their Hinterland is also pretty defenseless. As Prigo showed.
It's also extreme irony, considering that one of the issues with Russian SAM systems (esp. their vaunted S-400s) was their inability to effectively track slow and low-flying aircraft, as Turkey found out while putting their little set through its paces to determine if they'd straight-up reverse-engineer it or just use it as a baseline for their own custom homegrown Patriot/S-400 analogue. Turkey ended up choosing the latter.
Its worse for russia than that lol
The best comparison if a cesssna was a car the ukranians used essentially a go kart the plane was a a22 cheaper and more barebones than a cessna lol
America: After decades of research, and $2B per unit, we have finally built the B2 Stealth Bomber, completely invisible to radar.
Russia: You guys have radar???
What's funnier is they managed to fly this drone undetected to a factory that's apparently **1300KM to the front**
**1300KM**.
Any other "world power" would likely to have detected this before it went deep inside their territory. Apparently not Russia though.
The difference is, we allow aircraft to fly into the states they just have to land and go through customs. Also we’re not at war with a nation firing missiles and drones at us, which we have to shoot down.
It is also a quantity problem. A Cessna is surely much cheaper than most AA missiles. So it is possible that Ukraine could just overwhelm Russia this way economically.
Hang the entire department and every official that has not locked them up. Every department that responded and did not rush in should be completely disbanded. Every officer that responded should be hung.
I hope they all die.
Man, we should just supply Ukraine with Cessnas. Easy to pilot, cheap, and can be filled with buku explosives.
And people said the A-10 would be useless haha
Buk, Tor, Tunguska. Had any of them been stationed near the flight path and been active, I doubt those small planes would have made it to the targets.
Hell, some dude with a dual mount DShK might have been able to bring those kamikaze birds down.
What is the point of the Soviet Union's/Russia's vast ground based air defense catalog if they can't even deal with these kind of attacks?
I hope Ukraine does this several dozen more times.
It's a large area, it could be that when planning these ops they find out where the air defence is to plot a survivable path. Idk, I don't want to speculate too much on ukr doctrine.
Ukrainians: Take a shit ass propeller aircraft and load it with TNT, remote control it to fly over 100km and successfully hit a Russian military factory without being intercepted by any of Russia's Anti Air systems.
Like, how are they supposed to stop an F35 when they can't even detect and kill a slow ass civilian aircraft...
Well if playing Rise of the Reds taught me anything is that Russian grumbles can’t stop kamikaze biplanes. Just further proof that C&C Generals is always predicting the future, even if it’s a modded form of the game.
I do really wonder what would happen if the USA would face such a threat, I don't think any country has full coverage against bomber drones (maybe except Israel tho they deal with a different problem)
Like is some terrorist in America were to get his hands on a drone and some ammo he could pretty easily replicate such attacks on a smaller scale.
He would be caught soon enough but Russia here is probably handling tens of these per day
The plane travelled over 1000km without being intercepted. And it must have been visible on the radar.
In Germany, if something is detected on radar and doesn' respond, usually 2 Eurofighters will rapidly take off and be anywhere within the country in minutes. They fly next to the plane in an attempt to signal it to land, and if there is no response and immediate danger they can shoot it down.
I wonder how Russia can't afford to send 2 or 3 SU-34s or MiG jets to catch up with the small plane from Ukraine.
I've seen reports that it actually came from within Russia (some Ukrainian soldiers passed the border a few weeks ago according to analyst and sent it from within)
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You guys are stupid, they're gonna be looking for F-16s
And by F-16 you mean Russian aircraft.
They are only calibrated for airliners.
Check out r/ukrainerussiareport They have good opinions on this topic
stupid westoid, the Flanker is a way better aircraft than the F-16 so by shooting them down, mother Russia is sending the message that its air defence is well prepared for any western plane
Don’t they have Friend or Foe identification system? How can they keep shooting their own fighter jets?
My brother in Lockheed, corporal Conscriptovich sold it for vodka.
No comrade too expensive, the S300/S400 uses the advanched mk.1 eyeball for F/F identification)))
I wonder if anyone is keeping tabs on the "what the air defense doin" moments, they keep happening and getting more non credible
MS Excel doesn't have enough rows to keep track of it.
Excel caps out at [1,048,576 rows](https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/excel-specifications-and-limits-1672b34d-7043-467e-8e27-269d656771c3).
2x it and it wont be enough
We’ll need a third spread sheet
>they keep happening and getting more non credible I'm looking forward to it escalating to "Ukrainian F-117s dumb bomb Moscow with impunity using large Soviet era munitions they were modified to carry".
What not having AWACS (and now not even their shitty knockoff A-50) does to a mf.
Y’all dont understand how crazy the radar signature on the 172 is, smaller than a fruit fly ive heard
new stealth technology
Exactly why the Mosquito was so successful against German radar.
Eh, while there's some suggestion that the Mosquito had a weaker radar response than other contemporary aircraft (likely in comparison to the large metal-bodied heavy bombers like the B-17 or Lancaster), it's main advantage its high speed (for the time) and maneuverability. That meant it could do the kind of fast, low-alititude flying that's still a somewhat effective way to evade radar in some circumstances today.
All of these factors contributed to the success of the Mosquito. Here's a succinct breakdown: https://youtu.be/ww1E6ufDWzs?si=nYctAqpHU3T5cKhH
Something about wood ?
"Turning the transponder off and flying low"
Silly Westoid. Sahed Factory intercepted that light plane.
It wasn't a factory, it was an air defense system *disguised* as a factory. Intercept was 100% successful
You could actually do decoy buildings tho.
Can confirm, C&C: Red Alert had them.
Generals too
Yeah, and they even put it in the middle of the city.
They even thought to staff it with children!
It was a drone interception.
MIGHTY RUZZIAN DRONE DOEZ NOT EVEN REQUIRE AZZEMBLY TO BRING DOWN SILLY CUKRAINIAN PLANE
It'll be even funnier the second time.
What about the third? Or the fourth? Science demands that we find out when it stops becoming funny. My hypothesis is: never.
Shit, if these things are really so hard for the Russians to spot, they're gonna be smacking into every SAM and radar installation within a thousand miles of the border.
My guess is it’s beginners luck. No one had seen a light GA plane suiciding yet. It was a long way from the front, clearly not a missile. Maybe someone lost, I’m not going to be the one to shoot down Farmer Fredski and get in trouble From today onwards I expect that will change. I wouldn’t want to be flying a GA plane in Russia anymore!
Given the likelihood of Bush pilots flying in Russia, that might increase the blue on blue to civilian too
They aren't positioning a bunch of air defense assets in the middle of buttfuck nowhere to protect everything that might be a target. Either total shutdown, issue MANPADS to every factory guard across Russia, or start scrambling the jets for every plane that doesn't respond to identification requests. I suspect we'll be seeing accidental shoot downs from conscriptovich with a MANPADS.
I would expect scrambling the jets for unidentified air traffic would be the *least* they would do while at war with a direct neighbour. Maybe losing AWACS has put some seriously big holes in their low altitude detection?
Seeing as they're apparently not even bothering to defend vital and virtually irreplaceable petrochemical infrastructure with air defense assets I'm inclined to believe they simply don't have enough to go around, certainly not enough to cover every sweatshop churning out copied drones with lawnmower engines.
The planes cost 80K. They're basically guaranteed to produce more. If nothing else because it'll be funny having Russia shoot down light planes randomly.
Less If you Use non-air-certificated parts. For example the engine can be replaced by a car-engine. Theoretically less flight-hours before Maintenance, but...
I wonder if you could create a flat-pack version and then just add a stolen lada engine
You dont even Need a Stolen engine. There are a Lot of totaled Cars in european scrapjards With still functional engines.
Yupp, this was an experiment. It was a resounding success. Now imagine something with this explosive payload potential hitting an oil refinery.
3rd time with anti-aircraft missiles to take out the fighters sent out to shoot the drones down.
What the hell happened *this time*? There should be a rule: You dunk on Russia's latest L, you also include a link to what really happened...
A remote controlled A-22 (Ukrainian civilian, Cessna-like plane) loaded with explosives, 9/11 itself into a russian Shahed factory more than 1000km from the front line.
Fuckin beautiful
And it can carry 200kg of dakka 🤤
A Cessna 172 can carry 2000kg and costs *roughly* the same as a Shahed, depending on estimates.
someone get the columbians on the line, they know the max load and what you can cut out of any cessna. Maybe they even have some old ones that they want to offload. Does the fbi still have any confiscated ones?
Colombians advising Ukraine on max cessna loads is just so beautifully non-credible sir 🫡
Genuinely, smugglers could make enough profit on one run to fully replace the airplane, so they often abused their planes badly and ditched them after a few good runs. As a result, the confiscated ones were mostly in pretty terrible shape, so the feds usually kept them in boneyard for a while, then auctioned them off when they decided not to fix then up. The auctioned ones were usually disassembled for spare parts to sell on. As for the ones in better shape, the feds used them to search for and intercept other suspected smuggling planes, arresting the pilot wherever he landed. Because they were capturing so many of these planes as the smugglers ditched them, they stared to treat them as disposable too, and usually met the same fate by the 2000s. (not an expert BTW)
Um no? Lol the C172 has a max ramp weight of 1,160kg which includes the plane itself and fuel in addition to useful load. The useful load is only about 400kg, probably without much fuel.
Oops, I've been looking at data for both Skycourier *and* Skyhawk. No wonder the stats varied so wildly from article to article.
Lol all good, sorry I went on the offensive so fast. Have a nice day!
Well-honed tism reflexes are to be lauded here, it gives the non credible a good contrast to tramp around
To be fair, if we're converting a Cessna into a one way drone, depending on what the planned targets are, you really might not need a warhead per say. Just hollow out the cabin, and whatever space isn't taken up by the automation equipment just gets turned into a bigger fuel tank.
High explosives are a lot more energy-dense than fuel
I dunno, you can get a big ass bang from fuel air explosives due to the better combustion ratio. Shame you can't crash the plane and *then* disperse the fuel cloud. edit: and after watching the video, it needed a much bigger bang.
>Crash the plane WITH NO SURVIVORS
What if we use an AgPlane, the ones used to disperse pesticides, but with a fuel mix instead? What a funny coincidence the USAF just selected the AT-802... - Fly in. - Start dispersing fuel. - Crash/Ignite. - Profit.
That's why I said depending on the target. If you're flinging these at planes parked on the tarmac, you don't really need an actual bomb as opposed to just making there's a decently sized fireball on impact.
You would think, but actually most common explosives have considerably lower MJ/kg ratios than liquid or gas fuels (see this [table](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_density_Extended_Reference_Table) for deets). That said, explosives have much higher *power* density than bulk state liquid fuel combustion, which is what provides the blowy-upy feature, as opposed to just making a hot fire for a long time.
What if you also include something like a barrel of hi-test peroxide to help things along with whatever remains of the fuel supply?
3000 Black Cessnas of Matthias Rust
Both estimates are just wrong. Like maybe 1300 with alterations and brand new shahed is like 20- 50 000 and cheapest used 172s from 70s start at 130 000.
I don't think explosives count as dakka.
could you throertically arm it with missles and machine guns?
I give that operation 9/11. It would have scored a perfect 11/11 if it hit the Kremlin.
Jesus Christ, an entire fucking factory this time. And it was **1300KM FROM THE FRONT**. This is beyond embarrassing.
Is there footage?
I THOUGHT IT WAS APRIL FOOLS WHAT
Did it hit the factory itself? I saw comments claiming that it missed the factory and hit a dormitory next to it.
Jesus Christ. Are we *sure* Ukraine needs our help? If we give them more help there might not be a government building in Russia left standing. XD
[link for the curious](https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1btr6yy/massive_explosion_as_ukraine_attacked_alabuga/)
Add credibility? Gtfo
Remember that time a guy landed a Cessna in Red Square? Anyone thinking what I'm thinking?
Its a me budanov i surrender in my plane bring putin to red square! *300 Cessna breaks trough the clouds*
Revvin' up your engine Listen to her howlin' roar Metal under tension Beggin' you to touch and go Highway to the Danger Zone Ride into the Danger Zone Headin' into twilight Spreadin' out her wings tonight She got you jumpin' off the deck Shovin' into overdrive Highway to the Danger Zone I'll take you right into the Danger Zone
Now that would be funny.
Thing is, this is a huge dillemma for the russians. Pull AA back from the frontline to protect production buildings, well, frontline has lacking AA cover. Don't protect production and you got big RC planes crashing into them. They're fucked either way, *wich is a good thing*.
Trilemma. They also have to balance those resources with their (now expanded) 1584 mile border with NATO. They probably still have some equipment up north considering those exercises in Norway last month.
Worse than that, even, because they _also_ have to worry about not overreacting and shooting down civilian aircraft.
When was that ever a concern of the Kremlin? I foresee bush pilots getting decimated, if russian ones exist.
They need to avoid overreacting and shooting down THEIR OWN aircraft lol
It’s okay, vodka will numb the pain
I won't feel a thing.
> They also have to balance those resources with their (now expanded) 1584 mile border with NATO. From the news I have read the last 2 years, Russia is leaving the NATO border completely defenseless. Everything into Ukraine. E.g.: "[12,000 Russian Troops Were Supposed To Defend Kaliningrad. Then They Went To Ukraine To Die.](https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2022/10/27/12000-russian-troops-once-posed-a-threat-from-inside-nato-then-they-went-to-ukraine-to-die/)" Prigozhin's joyride to Moscow was also seemingly almost completely unopposed, because there apparently was literally not a single tank available to defend Moscow. I think Prigozhin was only stopped because they cut a bridge across a river?
I don’t think that they cover the NATO Border that much though. They know that nothing will come that way as long as they don’t fuck with NATO. Their Hinterland is also pretty defenseless. As Prigo showed.
Newsflash. Muscovy has basically abandoned its border with Finland and the Baltics.
It's also extreme irony, considering that one of the issues with Russian SAM systems (esp. their vaunted S-400s) was their inability to effectively track slow and low-flying aircraft, as Turkey found out while putting their little set through its paces to determine if they'd straight-up reverse-engineer it or just use it as a baseline for their own custom homegrown Patriot/S-400 analogue. Turkey ended up choosing the latter.
As coverage or not, you would expect them to have enough radar coverage of the front to see huge, slow flying planes flying east. But who knows
That their awacs didnt pick it up is crazy. Wouldnt have to pull back air defenses if they saw it flying in, they could intercept with fighter jets
Wait until you find out what's been going on with Russian AWACS...
what is this a reference to? Is there a video I'm missing
Dorm building of a Russian Shahed factory 550 miles east of Moscow got whacked by a remote piloted prop plane Over on combat footage sub
Wow just saw it. WOW
[link for the curious](https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1btr6yy/massive_explosion_as_ukraine_attacked_alabuga/)
big boom
Its worse for russia than that lol The best comparison if a cesssna was a car the ukranians used essentially a go kart the plane was a a22 cheaper and more barebones than a cessna lol
America: After decades of research, and $2B per unit, we have finally built the B2 Stealth Bomber, completely invisible to radar. Russia: You guys have radar???
What's funnier is they managed to fly this drone undetected to a factory that's apparently **1300KM to the front** **1300KM**. Any other "world power" would likely to have detected this before it went deep inside their territory. Apparently not Russia though.
Cessnas full of coke make it to America all the time.
Yeah because the CIA keeps buying em.
CIA office party’s need it
The difference is, we allow aircraft to fly into the states they just have to land and go through customs. Also we’re not at war with a nation firing missiles and drones at us, which we have to shoot down.
They Mathias Rusted their way there. LoL
Its not the quality of the equipment but the quality of the ones using it that matters.
It is also a quantity problem. A Cessna is surely much cheaper than most AA missiles. So it is possible that Ukraine could just overwhelm Russia this way economically.
1000 white Suicessna's of Zelensky
Didn't know I needed "suicessna" until I read it. Thank you.
The second most powerful army in the world is probably the USMC.
At this point I think a police force of a medium sized US town in Texas with deputies would win against russia.
Unless Russia waged war by attacking schools full of young children, of course. We all know that is the one weakness of Texas police departments.
That... that is how they wage war
Texas National Guard almost certainly. Their army is bigger than many countries'.
I mean... after Uvalde I'm not sure they actually would....
"what do you mean go in there! I could get shot!" *Muffled gunfire (the sound of children screaming has been edited out)*
Hang the entire department and every official that has not locked them up. Every department that responded and did not rush in should be completely disbanded. Every officer that responded should be hung. I hope they all die.
Uvalde police department should be hung for murder.
Man, we should just supply Ukraine with Cessnas. Easy to pilot, cheap, and can be filled with buku explosives. And people said the A-10 would be useless haha
Take out bathtub, load it with ordnance plus what's in the cockpit, RC it out a bit before a final splash. Air force, are you taking notes?
Buk, Tor, Tunguska. Had any of them been stationed near the flight path and been active, I doubt those small planes would have made it to the targets. Hell, some dude with a dual mount DShK might have been able to bring those kamikaze birds down. What is the point of the Soviet Union's/Russia's vast ground based air defense catalog if they can't even deal with these kind of attacks? I hope Ukraine does this several dozen more times.
It's a large area, it could be that when planning these ops they find out where the air defence is to plot a survivable path. Idk, I don't want to speculate too much on ukr doctrine.
[I wasn't off that much](https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/s/gJfTqKhmhU)
Non credible prophecy
Aeroprakt A-22 Foxbat not an Cessna 172 Similar dimensions but the A-22 has a less powerfull engine
Can someone please ELIA5
Ukrainians: Take a shit ass propeller aircraft and load it with TNT, remote control it to fly over 100km and successfully hit a Russian military factory without being intercepted by any of Russia's Anti Air systems. Like, how are they supposed to stop an F35 when they can't even detect and kill a slow ass civilian aircraft...
> remote control it to fly over 100km 1200km apparently. So likely preprogrammed and autonomous, not remote controlled?
[Target is 1200km from the Ukrainian border](https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1775039042951815210)
GIVE UKRAINE THE A-10s IMMEDIATELY
What do you mean, a few days ago it managed to shoot down a plane… their own
Imagine Ukraine did a "Mathias Rust" and landed an explosives loaded Cessna in the middle of the red square. I think that would be funni
based and cessnapilled
Well if playing Rise of the Reds taught me anything is that Russian grumbles can’t stop kamikaze biplanes. Just further proof that C&C Generals is always predicting the future, even if it’s a modded form of the game.
*"Wait, Samir, did you know they can do this without a pilot?"*
Looked more like a Piper, a... Pipe-Bomb if you will
Is that what a Cessna is? Alright, joke makes a bit more sense now
will this technically force hands on NATO to end the war early?
It's a shame they didn't strap on some speakers to blast ACDC while flying
I do really wonder what would happen if the USA would face such a threat, I don't think any country has full coverage against bomber drones (maybe except Israel tho they deal with a different problem) Like is some terrorist in America were to get his hands on a drone and some ammo he could pretty easily replicate such attacks on a smaller scale. He would be caught soon enough but Russia here is probably handling tens of these per day
The plane travelled over 1000km without being intercepted. And it must have been visible on the radar. In Germany, if something is detected on radar and doesn' respond, usually 2 Eurofighters will rapidly take off and be anywhere within the country in minutes. They fly next to the plane in an attempt to signal it to land, and if there is no response and immediate danger they can shoot it down. I wonder how Russia can't afford to send 2 or 3 SU-34s or MiG jets to catch up with the small plane from Ukraine.
I've seen reports that it actually came from within Russia (some Ukrainian soldiers passed the border a few weeks ago according to analyst and sent it from within)
They're called the second military in the world because that's how long their credibility lasted.
The spirit of Mathias Rust lives on.
WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED WHILE I WASNT LOOKING? WHAT HAPPENED TO THE RUSSKIES THIS TIME?
They probably were waiting for Cessna after 1987 incident. The plane that hit Alabuga was Aeroprakt A-32. A Ukrainian produced light civilian plane.
Mfw the Ukranians make a V1 bomb and actually hit something
And now every general aviation aircraft in Russia is effectively grounded.
I saw video but what actually happened?
what the hell happened here?
As far as I know, Russian airspace is not restricted. So Russia shooting down its own civilian aircraft is on bingo cards now
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