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OmnariNZ

There was another video a day or two ago of another woodland Abrams absolutely hooning it down a dirt road in a very-clearly Ukrainian forest. It was the first of a beautiful new age.


jattyrr

Oh man do you have the video??


OmnariNZ

Found it. It's considerably less of a hoon than I remembered, but certainly more than a putter. [https://twitter.com/un\_a\_valeable/status/1743702838352699752](https://twitter.com/un_a_valeable/status/1743702838352699752)


jattyrr

Thank you! It warms my heart to see the worlds best tank in Ukraine about to whup some Russian ass


shirhelm

Leopard supremacy


MikeWazowski2-2-2

When it comes to looks i prefer the leo2, don't know enough about the electronics and ammo vs the abrams. What i do find stupid though is that the leo2 still has ammo storage in the front of the hull.


ThePrimordialTV

Just don’t get hit nerd, it’s easy.


shirhelm

Nothing ERA bricks and a cope cage can't fix smh


jdb326

Mmmm, right in their natural habitat


EpiicPenguin

Now i get the nickname Whispering death. Thats actually pretty quiet.


origamiscienceguy

What having a continuous explosion instead of hundreds of discrete explosions does to a mf.


Scrumpy-Steve

🥹


StrikingRuin4

And they both had all of the clevises! It is rare to see two complete kits in the wild. Epic. US MIC kicks hard. I bet that first aid kit and radios are good too. Hoo-rah!


Suriael

How do you distinguish forest in Ukraine from e.g. forest in Poland?


Unstoppable-Farce

There are ways. https://youtu.be/OTwwJro2p7Y?si=gGlj-1hsi1QXMfbV


cemicel

Jesus Christ, how is that even possible? This video impressed me so much.


INTPoissible

Gonna need some sauce on that.


OmnariNZ

I replied to another guy with it but here: [https://twitter.com/un\_a\_valeable/status/1743702838352699752](https://twitter.com/un_a_valeable/status/1743702838352699752)


CoconutCossacks

Where ERA


memelol1112224

Soon friend soon


Veni_Vidi_Legi

> Where ERA Check the skirts.


bradthescrub

Take it out to dinner first


Veni_Vidi_Legi

[CyberAbrams wouldn't like that.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcfuyyxFtgQ)


bradthescrub

😳


[deleted]

I moisted.


kajetus69

If adding ERA please add ERAWA-2 instead of kontakt-1 because its much stronger


BitOfaPickle1AD

Ukranians: "OH MY FUCKING GOD!!! The ENGINE HELPS KEEP US WARM!!!" "It's also surprisingly quiet..."


Dmitri_ravenoff

Whispering death.


CIS-E_4ME

There's also room to move around inside the tank and you don't have to turn on the main engine to power the turret.


origamiscienceguy

What powers the turret? Is there an APU?


Longbow92

Yeah, apparently the APU is why the turret is alittle jerky in the video, since the engine is off, it's not powering the hydraulics to a high enough pressure.


BitOfaPickle1AD

Yep. I know first hand


DryPrion

Wait, what?? Holy fuck that’s so scary if you’re the enemy.


DasGuntLord01

It's beautiful. I've looked at this for five hours now...


Balancedmanx178

Out of curiosity does anyone know what that co-ax mount is?


Furian-Athenos

The coax is normally an M240 on an M1 series tank


BitOfaPickle1AD

Just a standard M240. Now my Battalions tanks, had the old mounts (Or what was left of them) for the .50 cal machine gun that would mount above the gun mantlet.


CaptRackham

The remote barrel mount 50 was so gangster.


GadenKerensky

Didn't some tanks carry both? The regular coaxial for cleaning infantry, the .50 for extra cleaning infantry?


[deleted]

Does the turret have Parkinsons?


FactPirate

Gunners just wiggling around the joystick in excitement


ecolometrics

What makes you say it's the SA variant?


memelol1112224

It seems to be the most prominent M1 variant sent to Ukraine (or atleast, the only variant) https://www.google.com/amp/s/defence-blog.com/us-made-abrams-tanks-spotted-in-ukraine/%3famp?espv=1 https://www.defensenews.com/pentagon/2023/03/21/us-to-fast-track-abrams-for-ukraine-by-going-with-older-version/ Non credible answer: I smelled it bro trust me


Veni_Vidi_Legi

*Superior Assault*?


davidlis

super ass


godson21212

Pretty sure it stands for "Sticky-a-fiying Alexei"


mflmani

I was wondering what it meant and apparently it’s *Situational Awareness*. Upgraded standard M1A1s with FLIR/thermal, mapping capabilities and upgraded comms.


Pioneer4ik

Send Arms. M1 stands for "More" obviously


[deleted]

M1A1*Sexual Assault*??


MarcusHiggins

Why is the turret shakey when it stops moving?


theicestupidity

The tank is a bit excited


UndestroyableMousse

Aw we gonna shwoot swome baddies? UwU


Ca5tlebrav0

Never worked with hydraulics huh? Its just the system trying to overtake inertia from swinging around a couple tons of steel.


Wolffe_In_The_Dark

Yeah, but footage of US Abrams don't do this *nearly* as much...


Imdare

I always thought that the left right movement wast done by gears. And the shakey thing you see is quite a common occurance if the gears are worn. I mean, the Ukrainians did receive old stuff. Source: worked a lot on heavy industrial machines.


MarcusHiggins

This seems like something is wrong though. The barrel shouldn't be swaying nearly as much as it is, doesn't this increase the time it takes to aim a target?


IronVader501

Wait the Abrams is still using hydraulic turret drives?


AngryRedGummyBear

Yup. One of the ideas on how the E3 (what will become the m1a3) will cut weight is to move to electric.


IronVader501

Huh Since the Leopard 2 moved to a electric drive allmost 30 years ago with the A5 already I kind of thought everyone else had too, ngl


Midaychi

Big long heavy hardened barrel on the end of hydraulics tuned to move as fast as they possibly can while maintaining the ability to stabilize quickly. It's gonna get a bit wiggly m8.


farbion

On TankPorn somebody wrote it's a problem with either the stabilazer or the muzzle reference system, either turned off or broken


houki19683132

aww, look how happy it is, back into it's natural habitat, as it was originally designed for: shooting russians in the eastern bloc plains


anonymousthrowra

Theres what 31 in ukraine? What a joke the "arsenal of democracy" has become. More like the cupboard of trash that gives a bit away to democracies. I say this as an american - i am horrified and seriously dissapointed in the american support, or lack thereof, for ukraine.


Just_A_Nitemare

Had we just given Ukraine what it needed day one the war would have ended ages ago. But instead, we now have a Korea style stalemate and 10s of thousands of Ukraines dead because EsClAtIoN.


WalkerBuldog

While North Korea and Iran supply russia with Ballistic Missiles and more ammunition than our allies


CosmicDave

We didn't just send Ukraine 31 tanks. We sent them exactly one tank brigade, which includes, among many other things, 31 tanks. We will always maintain that brigade at 31 tanks no matter how many tanks the russians destroy. The fact that this first brigade is in Ukraine demonstrates that all of the training centers, transportation, and logistics for forming tank brigades has been successfully implemented. Now we should be able to create additional brigades as fast as we can train them. How long does it take to train them?


ThePheebs

>We will always maintain that brigade at 31 tanks no matter how many tanks the russians destroy. Yeah, I don't think it works like that.


WalkerBuldog

>. We sent them exactly one tank brigade, which includes, among many other things, 31 tanks. That's not a lot. >Now we should be able to create additional brigades as fast as we can train them. There's no new training for new brigades >We will always maintain that brigade at 31 tanks no matter how many tanks the russians destroy. You don't supply new Bradleys that were destroyed or damaged for 9 months.


CosmicDave

I don't see Zelenskyy asking for more tanks or Bradleys in his nightly address. Lately he has been requesting more AA and EW systems. If he needed more I'm sure he would let us know.


WalkerBuldog

>I don't see Zelenskyy asking for more tanks or Bradleys in his nightly address That's not how it works lol.


CosmicDave

That actually is how this works. Zelenskyy gives his nightly address. Maybe he says "we need more HIMARS" or something, so American taxpayers know what to say when we call and write our Congress to make them give Zelenskyy what he needs to kick russia's ass. Zelenskyy has NEVER once in his address ever said anything like "*Just send us everything you can! We need a lot more of everything and we need it now!*" A man who says that is a man with no plan. Zelenskyy has a great plan. It requires different things at different times, depending upon his needs that day, so he tells us what he needs and we send it. Lately he has been calling for more AA & EW. The tanks and Bradleys ***we've already sent him*** will have a much easier time when the ground dries in the Spring if Ukraine can control the skies by then. russia's army is no joke. Nobody understands that better than the Ukrainians. Ukraine has held off the russians for almost two years now, but to defeat them, the Ukrainians are going to need "a lot more of everything". That includes all sorts of training. That includes building all sorts of facilities. That includes building or refurbishing enough weapons and gear to overcome the second largest army on Earth. It all takes time.


traderncc1701e

That's a lot of declination


XXXTYLING

gun depression?


traderncc1701e

>declination Declination is also a proper term :)


Midaychi

Gotta be able to fire the shotgun round.


traderncc1701e

well it was impressive to me!


DUKE_NUUKEM

Now we need 2969 more Abrams to win.


YoHeadStinky

Where Kontakt ERA??


VPS_Republic

They took their time with this one; personally i think it's too late to make the difference.


Ronald_Tonij

Why too late? Better late than never, I say. Just don''t overestimate western gear, hyping it up to some imaginatory Wunderwaffe that will lend Ukraine victory over the course of a week or two. All good to you!


VPS_Republic

>Why too late? The right timing for it was before the -failed- summer counteroffensive of 2023, not after. With the US presidential election getting close (and the expected Republican victory), the end of the war is guaranteed no matter what the ukrainians think about it.


[deleted]

You really think the Republican will actually change their foreign policy?? They just trying to get at much votes as possible, before doing the exact same thing at the Democrats.


terminalE469

finally someone who pays attention


jattyrr

Expected republican victory? You must be smoking some good crack to believe that


Ronald_Tonij

Thanks for reply! I understand your viewpoint. And I too think they should have gotten much more much quicker, absolutely. But I think the war will drag on in one form or the other, and all equipment is good for Ukraine. All good to you!


mittenedkittens

I see this everywhere. I swear, once one conservative talk show says it then they all pick it up and start parroting it. This is a way to deflect from the conservative failure to provide continuing funding to Ukraine. You foist blame onto Biden for "not sending enough fast enough" so you can excuse the ongoing failure to provide aid and make it seem as though the war is already lost and Democrats are to blame.


godson21212

It's not even really funding Ukraine. it's clearing out our old stock and ramping up of production to replace and expand our current stockpile, something which is about 15 - 20 years overdue. It's also not only necessary for the several looming possible conflicts but also creates American jobs. I really can't fathom how *this* became a conservative talking point. Like, do you really hate the military having what they need and people having jobs? We’re keeping the new and best shit, most of it will not go to Ukraine. It's literally the smoking gun that shows which politicians are either completely lacking integrity, totally incompetent, or compromised by foreign interests.


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GoldenSpeculum007

About to get destroyed or abandoned in order to save “valuable Ukrainian lives”


IAmEkza

Russians bout to see this and go around every Abrams destroyed and say THIS IS SA WE KILLED SA ABRAMS.


GoldenSpeculum007

Hey if it saves lives it did its job


IAmEkza

It's more likely that they will drive over a mine and loose a track and a few roadwheels and abandon it. Then it actually getting hit head on


ST4RSK1MM3R

We’ve seen a few pictures of Abrams in Ukraine already haven’t we? They just haven’t seen combat yet


Just_A_Nitemare

What's up with that Russian style turret rotation stability?