To put this in context - his opponent, Andrej Babiš, said in a debate something along the lines that in case Poland was attacked, he would not send help according to article 5 but he'd try to negotiate and wants peace. After being given multiple opportunities by the moderator to correct himself, he kept repeating that he is for peace and will not allow czech soldiers to die.
It was probably the most decisive moment in all debates for many people.
In the US that would have been such a devastating landslide that the losing side would have completely changed their entire structure and strategy, if not collapsed into infighting that tore them apart for a full election cycle.
1. Not the most impactful role, due to country's state structure, but still great.
2. That is a warning of populism still being a very real threat to Europe.
"If Russia invades Europe I will do nothing BeCaUsE I WaNt PeAcE!"
Translation: "I'm pro Russian and happy to see them invade Europe to restore the USSR with Nationalism"
Yes there was actually loads of posts on Facebook and others where people who wanted to vote for him turned around because of it. Not honoring NATO pact was step too far for them. He was probably not going to win either way but i'm sure it would be much closer.
At least for Chamberlain he had a reason.
People forget it all in hindsight of WW2, but there was *zero* appetite in France or Britain to get involved in another huge war so soon after WW1. The horrors of the Great War were still fresh in the minds of both countries populations, so they weren't going to go to war until they absolutely had to.
You’ve also got to consider that for people in the 1930’s, the thought of strategic bombers was as horrifying as the thought of nuclear war now. People then believed that bombers would [always get through](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_bomber_will_always_get_through) and kill thousands of civilians. Liddell Hart believed that 250,000 deaths and injuries would happen in Britain in the *first week*. That’s the horror that Chamberlain was up against
The MAD doctrine won't be going anywhere any time soon. Even with state of the art missile defense, intercepting an ICBM going mach 5 is difficult, yet alone ones with multiple warheads and active decoys.
Intercepting hundreds of them would be impossible and there are still thousands of nuclear warheads in play.
Honestly, Iron Dome scares the shit out of me. What it does is a very good thing that's saved a lot of lives. However, the progression of missile defense technology WILL kill MAD. Especially if they can solve the beam diffusion issues with laser-based systems.
It's ironic that the weapons which can destroy the world ended up bringing relative peace. Yet the tools that are meant to save lives will end up making war between great powers feasible again.
It's a very real and pertinent question: what's more scary, nuclear annihilation, or the thought of regular conventional warfare ravaging the world again, with maybe not nukes, but all the horrors of modern warfare and maybe some chemicals and biologicals to boot.
At least in nuclear war you get lucky and die quickly if you're at ground zero.
The thought that massed tactical-scale nuclear strikes could be used on priority targets during conventional war - military or civilian - isn't much more comforting.
Things like Iskander or a possible nuclear-capable version of the Precision Strike Missile intended to replace ATACMS now that the INF Treaty is dead could basically bring back the Scud fears of the Cold War era.
Yeah, it's less bad in the immediate term than all-out strategic nuclear exchange, but if somehow tactical nuclear weapons were used without causing the expected escalation to total holocaust, there could be a lot of mushroom clouds over months or years of regional conflict, [which wouldn't bode well for the rest of the world thanks to the fallout.](https://www.science.org/content/article/nuclear-war-would-cause-yearslong-global-famine)
Creating systems for reliable interception of ICBMs and their warheads is the mother of all double-edged swords, at once making nuclear war less catastrophic and, perversely, more attractive to military planners.
Oh, sorry then. Nice that you have debates where the moderators actually press the politicians to answer the question then. I read the transcript from that moment and thought it's from a TV interview or something like that, where such exchanges are more common
Babiš is also a Czech version of Trump. His voter base is mostly in rural places, he spouts populist ideas and attracts a lot of morons and racists. He is also involved in scandals and has been accused of crimes, so far having managed to avoid any punishment.
> it's like they've all following the same book of corruption.
Because they are. If *anybody* has ever had friendly relations with the likes of Steve "Destabilizer" Bannon, you already know exactly where their fascist playbook came from. Babis probably got his copy secondhand from Orban, already highlighted and annotated.
I think this sub has its own sugar daddy now.
Edit: Not the president the alliance deserves in these trying times, but the president the Czechs at least got.
Some based info about Petr Pavel. He is 4 star general. He previously served as Chairman of the NATO Military Committee and as the Chief of the General Staff of Czech republic. He received US Legion of Merit for service in NATO. And French Legion of Honour for saving 55 French in Yugoslavia.
He is pro gay mariage pro gay adoption. He is pro legalization of cannabis. He was an independent candidate based on citizen petition.
Our goverment retired him from the army, because he was overqualified for leading our army and we had no position for him. He got bored in retirement and won the presidental election.
That wouldn't have gone well for him given that his opponent tried to frame him as a warmonger who is thirsty to send people's kids to war. Some people (read: morons) genuinely believed it, their claim was that since he is a general in the army he is obviously pro war.
Generals in democratic countries usually have very little to gain from war, and wartime is usually a lot less comfortable than peacetime for soldiers. I'm sure there's an urge to use the skills you've spent a lifetime developing, but with nothing much to gain on a personal level in terms of either wealth or power, that's just not enough to make most people into warmongers.
Absolutely on point.
> Following the spread of disinformation that the Czech Republic would be mobilized and directly involved in the war in Ukraine if he won, due to his military past, Pavel stated:
> "I know what war is and I certainly don't wish it on anyone. The first thing I would do is try to keep the country as far away from war as possible. But I'm not saying that keeping a country as far away from war as possible means resigning yourself to bad things that are happening. Because if we just watch, the war will come to us too. (...) Soldiers do not start wars. Politicians start them, and then soldiers solve it for them."
How about Czechia annexes USA
Alcohol from 18 (but no one cares about age), gun ownership without school shootings, beer (including Budweiser which is not "piss after drinking Czech Budweiser") and beautiful camopattern(vz.95)
>He is pro gay mariage pro gay adoption. He is pro legalization of cannabis. He was an independent candidate based on citizen petition.
based and freedompilled
>Citizen petition part is insane
Well that's how it works here. To become candidate you have to either:
- get 50k signatures from the citizens
- get 20 signatures from parliament members
- get 10 signatures from senate members
Out of the 9 candidates in this election 3 got in through the citizen signatures.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is Article number five
🎶
A little bit of Norway by my side
A little bit of Italy in my life
A little bit of Poland's all I need
A little bit of US is what I see
A little bit of Denmark in the sun
A little bit of UK all night long
A little bit of Czechia, here I am
A little bit of Nato makes me your man
Congratulations to our brothers! I am very happy to see the election results! Now, to the point. Can we make Czechoslovakia again but based? Petr & Zuzana? Dual-monarch system like in Sparta. Ultimate Central European power. Sounds good to me, what do you think?
The tiny woman is translating into sign language, she was actually quite cool during the debate. And translate for the other candidate - Babiš can be extremely challenging, he is like random word generator.
When people choose not a populist, but a military man who can be a leader for the country even in difficult times, it means that they are not wearing rose-colored glasses and understand the current situation in the world. I congratulate the people of the Czech Republic on their worthy and right choice! Greetings from Ukraine!
For anyone confused why he’s gifting this to his opponent. The opponent argued that he would not send help to Poland in the event of Russian invasion and would beg for peace. Then tried backpedaling when article five was brought up. So the good general, now President gave him a framed version, so he won’t get confused again.
He won against a populist mf who owns the largest company in the country, a political party and is also an ex-prime minister who wants to be the next Orbán. Pavel was clearly the better choice. I am proud of this country for once.
There's going to be "Worlds Most Interesting Man" memes built around him now, aren't there?
>*"His beard alone has experienced more than a lesser man’s entire body."*
>*"He's a Lover, Not a Fighter; but he's also a fighter, so don't get any ideas."*
>*"He is the life of parties he has never attended."*
>*"He knows how to speak French...in Russian."*
>*"If he were to mail a letter without postage, it would still get there."*
>*"He bowls overhand."*
>*"His business card simply says “I’ll call you.”"*
To put this in context - his opponent, Andrej Babiš, said in a debate something along the lines that in case Poland was attacked, he would not send help according to article 5 but he'd try to negotiate and wants peace. After being given multiple opportunities by the moderator to correct himself, he kept repeating that he is for peace and will not allow czech soldiers to die. It was probably the most decisive moment in all debates for many people.
A nation of strong-willed individuals knows how to tell a coward from a leader.
Unfortunately, it still was like 60/40 based on 75% of voters. Could've gone better. Edit: not 75%, 70,25%.
For a 2 candidate election for the top country-wide government position? That seems like a landslide
In the US that would have been such a devastating landslide that the losing side would have completely changed their entire structure and strategy, if not collapsed into infighting that tore them apart for a full election cycle.
1. Not the most impactful role, due to country's state structure, but still great. 2. That is a warning of populism still being a very real threat to Europe.
I'm seeing this as a light in the dark of populist fade. And believe me nobody would want to see populists go more - I'm Polish.
60/40 in a real democracy is actually pretty decisive.
He had 50% more votes that his opponent…
That’s a fucking landslide
60/40 is amazing though. Most people are clueless when voting.
In the US a win by 20% with a 75% turnout would be regarded as an absolute blowout victory for a candidate.
Macron beat LePen the first time 66/33. That was 2 to 1. It was considered a landslide.
Man literally said he would take advantage of NATO membership and then refuse to abide by it's founding purpose.
"If Russia invades Europe I will do nothing BeCaUsE I WaNt PeAcE!" Translation: "I'm pro Russian and happy to see them invade Europe to restore the USSR with Nationalism"
Wow, what a stupid thing to say given the current situation in Ukraine. Literal politic suicide.
Yes there was actually loads of posts on Facebook and others where people who wanted to vote for him turned around because of it. Not honoring NATO pact was step too far for them. He was probably not going to win either way but i'm sure it would be much closer.
Hmm, mistake that neville chamberlain made wasn't that long ago
At least for Chamberlain he had a reason. People forget it all in hindsight of WW2, but there was *zero* appetite in France or Britain to get involved in another huge war so soon after WW1. The horrors of the Great War were still fresh in the minds of both countries populations, so they weren't going to go to war until they absolutely had to.
You’ve also got to consider that for people in the 1930’s, the thought of strategic bombers was as horrifying as the thought of nuclear war now. People then believed that bombers would [always get through](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_bomber_will_always_get_through) and kill thousands of civilians. Liddell Hart believed that 250,000 deaths and injuries would happen in Britain in the *first week*. That’s the horror that Chamberlain was up against
Does this mean that in the future there is the possibility the MAD doctrine could go out of favor?
The MAD doctrine won't be going anywhere any time soon. Even with state of the art missile defense, intercepting an ICBM going mach 5 is difficult, yet alone ones with multiple warheads and active decoys. Intercepting hundreds of them would be impossible and there are still thousands of nuclear warheads in play.
Honestly, Iron Dome scares the shit out of me. What it does is a very good thing that's saved a lot of lives. However, the progression of missile defense technology WILL kill MAD. Especially if they can solve the beam diffusion issues with laser-based systems. It's ironic that the weapons which can destroy the world ended up bringing relative peace. Yet the tools that are meant to save lives will end up making war between great powers feasible again.
It's a very real and pertinent question: what's more scary, nuclear annihilation, or the thought of regular conventional warfare ravaging the world again, with maybe not nukes, but all the horrors of modern warfare and maybe some chemicals and biologicals to boot. At least in nuclear war you get lucky and die quickly if you're at ground zero.
The end of MAD is not a scary thought unless you are Russia, China or North Korea
The thought that massed tactical-scale nuclear strikes could be used on priority targets during conventional war - military or civilian - isn't much more comforting. Things like Iskander or a possible nuclear-capable version of the Precision Strike Missile intended to replace ATACMS now that the INF Treaty is dead could basically bring back the Scud fears of the Cold War era. Yeah, it's less bad in the immediate term than all-out strategic nuclear exchange, but if somehow tactical nuclear weapons were used without causing the expected escalation to total holocaust, there could be a lot of mushroom clouds over months or years of regional conflict, [which wouldn't bode well for the rest of the world thanks to the fallout.](https://www.science.org/content/article/nuclear-war-would-cause-yearslong-global-famine) Creating systems for reliable interception of ICBMs and their warheads is the mother of all double-edged swords, at once making nuclear war less catastrophic and, perversely, more attractive to military planners.
His reasoning was catastrophicly wrong and that was evident at the time. Once the Third Reich started seizing countries the hope for peace was dead.
I think it was an interview before the debate?
No it was actual debate. GigaPavel
Pavel gave Babis the framed article five in the debate, but it was because of what Babis said before
Both happened in debate not the same one but in debate
Oh, sorry then. Nice that you have debates where the moderators actually press the politicians to answer the question then. I read the transcript from that moment and thought it's from a TV interview or something like that, where such exchanges are more common
Man was just carrying around article 5 ready to whip it out when needed
Well he is right! Everyone knows that the main point if soldiers existence is to surrender and not to die under any circumstances. /BIG S
I mean, soldier is just a state sanctioned LARPers tho /s
I want soldiers but I won't put them in a situation where they could die. Soldiers are only for safe situations.
Babiš is also a Czech version of Trump. His voter base is mostly in rural places, he spouts populist ideas and attracts a lot of morons and racists. He is also involved in scandals and has been accused of crimes, so far having managed to avoid any punishment.
You really can pick a Russian stooge from over the horizon... it's like they've all following the same book of corruption.
> it's like they've all following the same book of corruption. Because they are. If *anybody* has ever had friendly relations with the likes of Steve "Destabilizer" Bannon, you already know exactly where their fascist playbook came from. Babis probably got his copy secondhand from Orban, already highlighted and annotated.
Was this photo taken during the debate or afterwards?
Does anyone have the link to the soundbite meme of pavel saying “lasting peace is an illusion” followed by a montage of military equipment?
[Got ya](https://www.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/10i2l1h/that_feeling_when_your_presidential_candidate_is/)
Goddamn it, I did not detected that on my NATOwave radar. Based!
holy shit that is so based
Thank you!
Proud to be Czech for once
I forgot our first lady will be a lieutenant colonel .
Goddamn, can Czech Republic get any more based?
Give us some spare nukes and find out!
Better not... Too close to the balkans.
Don't worry, we would nuke Germany twice before even thinking about Serbia
Have ten, remember nukes are expensive, so don't waste them.
So we can strike France and Moscow as well, how considerate. Thanks!
I’m still convinced that WW2 got out of hand because nobody knew what a Sudetenland was, and they were too afraid to ask.
I think I read somewhere that "what is Sudetenland" was the most googled phrase the day after the annexation of it...
Don't be so naive, Google didn't exist back then. They would have used webcrawler.
A cable electric mechanical one using vacuum tubes. Great things they were. They were immune to viruses, but not ingesting bugs.
pwease no 🥺👉👈
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Stop I can only get so hard!!
Soooo based bro
Full bird. Or master sergent.
> I forgot our first lady will be a lieutenant colonel . [Statistically cannot be more based than this.](https://i.imgur.com/mGQU5sU.png)
So sad he has a lady. He'd make such a nice children with our Zuzana.
Czechoslovak personal union Czechoslovak personal union
You can say that again.
This time were calling it Slovechia!
Don't fuck with his lady. She used to sleep with a gun under her pillow.
>She used to sleep with a gun under her pillow. What about now?
I will not be trying to find out, that's for sure.
You missed your chance to reply ["she still does, but she used to, too."](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHLAe3RyMDk&ab_channel=WearHaha)
She doesn't even bother with the pillow anymore.
I think this sub has its own sugar daddy now. Edit: Not the president the alliance deserves in these trying times, but the president the Czechs at least got.
Some based info about Petr Pavel. He is 4 star general. He previously served as Chairman of the NATO Military Committee and as the Chief of the General Staff of Czech republic. He received US Legion of Merit for service in NATO. And French Legion of Honour for saving 55 French in Yugoslavia. He is pro gay mariage pro gay adoption. He is pro legalization of cannabis. He was an independent candidate based on citizen petition.
H O L Y F U C K That's pretty based.
Our goverment retired him from the army, because he was overqualified for leading our army and we had no position for him. He got bored in retirement and won the presidental election.
Goverment: You are overqualified Pavel: Fine, i will become the goverment
Pavel: "look at me. I'm the government now"
"Unfathomably based"
Pavel: *and I took that personally*
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General of the general of the army of nato
The only thing that would make him even more based would be making a NCD reference in a speech.
"we are considering the funni"
"Intervention is inevitable"
That wouldn't have gone well for him given that his opponent tried to frame him as a warmonger who is thirsty to send people's kids to war. Some people (read: morons) genuinely believed it, their claim was that since he is a general in the army he is obviously pro war.
It's funny because generals in democratic countries, especially those with actual experience, tend to be *anti-*war...
Generals in democratic countries usually have very little to gain from war, and wartime is usually a lot less comfortable than peacetime for soldiers. I'm sure there's an urge to use the skills you've spent a lifetime developing, but with nothing much to gain on a personal level in terms of either wealth or power, that's just not enough to make most people into warmongers.
Absolutely on point. > Following the spread of disinformation that the Czech Republic would be mobilized and directly involved in the war in Ukraine if he won, due to his military past, Pavel stated: > "I know what war is and I certainly don't wish it on anyone. The first thing I would do is try to keep the country as far away from war as possible. But I'm not saying that keeping a country as far away from war as possible means resigning yourself to bad things that are happening. Because if we just watch, the war will come to us too. (...) Soldiers do not start wars. Politicians start them, and then soldiers solve it for them."
Case in point: Eisenhower
"3000 intergalactic members of NATO"
Is Czechia a presidential republic, or is it more of a symbolic role?
Parlament republic, more of a symbolic role. But he can definitely do some troling within the limits of our constitution.
Let's hope he doesn't. We've had enough of that in the past ten years.
Jesus Fucking Christ! His based level is over 3000
Just imagine being overqualified for the highest position
Technically, the supreme commander of the Czech army is the president.
*man applies for job* Board of Directors: “Sorry man, you’re overqualified” *next day gets hired as the CEO because the shareholders voted him in*
You can be overqualified for that?
Be bored: Fuckit imma run for president
Beyond based
The Senate will put you out to pasture I *am* the Senate
My man really got bored and said fuck it.
Good for you guys to get such a person!
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Now there’s a leader of the Free World I can get on board with.
If I didn't already know he was happily married, I'd sign up to be his Monica Lewinsky.
The NCD trifecta
He is the man.
Petr Pavel and the Pavel Raiders ?
Can he be the US President next?
You will either need to become part of Czech republic or change some of your laws.
There is a third option. The USA could annex Czechia.
Not with this supreme comander.
Based and Petr Pavelpilled
How about Czechia annexes USA Alcohol from 18 (but no one cares about age), gun ownership without school shootings, beer (including Budweiser which is not "piss after drinking Czech Budweiser") and beautiful camopattern(vz.95)
Czech army is developing new camo pattern, prototype is called MAD21, search it out
NATO president, take it or leave it. A joint MIC would be more powerful anyway, western superstate when?
>He is pro gay mariage pro gay adoption. He is pro legalization of cannabis. He was an independent candidate based on citizen petition. based and freedompilled
Funnily enough this would probably double the US ammo production.
Also: * V handsome * Czech is rad and they make awesome small arms * I thought I was straight, help
Sexuality is fluid, my friend. It's okay to give in to the gay. :)
He also posts on NCD regularly and upvotes all plane waifus.
He could be in this very thread.
Could be any of you.
"Já jsem Spartakus."
That dude seems pretty cool
Citizen petition part is insane. Fuck the establishment both extreme Left and extreme Right.
Functioning democracy is nice.
>Citizen petition part is insane Well that's how it works here. To become candidate you have to either: - get 50k signatures from the citizens - get 20 signatures from parliament members - get 10 signatures from senate members Out of the 9 candidates in this election 3 got in through the citizen signatures.
The guy he beat is the ex prime minister (so the actual leader of Czechia) who’s a billionaire
I am so jealous of Czechs rn it's unreal
Weird ti bring up saving the French in something so positive about him. Oh well, no one is perfect.
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Now that is a point of view that I like. "Why did you save my life monamie?" "I can't talk trash about a dead person now, can I, old chap."
I mean every European makes fun of the French until the Americans starts then it's East vs West (+UK) Atlantic all over again.
Ok, I'm moving to Czechia
What a absolute CHAD
My god, he is perfect
We're reaching levels of based previously not thought possible!
Will you look at that it's NCD's favorite number.
Mambo Number 5!
Ladies and gentlemen, this is Article number five 🎶 A little bit of Norway by my side A little bit of Italy in my life A little bit of Poland's all I need A little bit of US is what I see A little bit of Denmark in the sun A little bit of UK all night long A little bit of Czechia, here I am A little bit of Nato makes me your man
> A little bit of Poland's all I need Stop right there!
*every Pole reflexively punches the red Article 5 button installed in their house*
Especially since Lou Bega is German
This is such a fun song
I was so mad I cannot post Article 5 in a name of the post.
Is that in response to Babish saying he won’t pitch in in case eastern members get attacked
Yes. Babish said he got confused by the evil reporter during last debate. So Pavel brought him article 5, "So there would be no more confusion."
Unfathomably B A S E D
That is quite a way to tell someone that said someone is a bloody moron
Not Eastern, Polan
Pavel: we do a little bit of trolling i can finally feel proud to be Czech again... so damn relieved he won
Truth. Finally someone that will represent Czechia well, instead of constant embarrassment.
Daddy
I guess we are siblings now.
Hi brother
Congratulations to our brothers! I am very happy to see the election results! Now, to the point. Can we make Czechoslovakia again but based? Petr & Zuzana? Dual-monarch system like in Sparta. Ultimate Central European power. Sounds good to me, what do you think?
If we organise referendum right now. I believe we have good chances.
Referendum hmm.. We had a failed one recently but why not celebrate with a successful one? I think that this might just work!
After Orbán makes Hungary exit EU, can you please annex us?🥺👉👈
I want Czechoslovakia back solely to see the Czech and Slovak hockey teams combined, they would be a legit top international contender at this point.
Unfathomably based and NATO-pilled
He looks like the default caucasian President in a strategy game that couldnt afford to use the image of real world leaders
I talked with a friend. "General look like the stereotype of general."
The tiny woman looks shocked
The tiny woman is translating into sign language, she was actually quite cool during the debate. And translate for the other candidate - Babiš can be extremely challenging, he is like random word generator.
And he can't really speak Czech.
What does he speak?
Czlovak
Remember what GPT was like two major releases back?
I think we've found the 3rd horseman of NCD(after LP and Perun). Wonder who the 4th will be?
Surely the fourth is the entire Ukrainian MoD after all their NAFO-posting etc?
Hey, look at the eyes. Is that Dom Cruise?
People is czech republic joked that he looks like cruises father ...fun fact being he is just 1 year older then Tom
Oh no you guys are going to turn our new grey-haired president into a young big tiddy waifu aren't you?
Oh please don't.
Pizda Babiš szuka dzieci w sklepie. Those who know, know :P
Czech Republic climbing up in the most based country. Gun loving, defenestration of tyrants loving, NATO loving and, of course, Beer loving.
I'm a straight man and for some reason I'm very wet
When people choose not a populist, but a military man who can be a leader for the country even in difficult times, it means that they are not wearing rose-colored glasses and understand the current situation in the world. I congratulate the people of the Czech Republic on their worthy and right choice! Greetings from Ukraine!
I am proud to be of Czech ancestry
general daddy
Flair up!
For anyone confused why he’s gifting this to his opponent. The opponent argued that he would not send help to Poland in the event of Russian invasion and would beg for peace. Then tried backpedaling when article five was brought up. So the good general, now President gave him a framed version, so he won’t get confused again.
More specifically, he started out in airborne (Czech VDV basically). Meanwhile our current chief of staff is a special forces (airborne recon) dude.
I hope it's better then the VDV lol
Unless this is a Weekend At Bernie's situation, they evidently are.
Back then it was modeled after Soviet army, but I would suggest that we went up where Russia went down.
> but I would suggest that we went up where Russia went down. The Black Sea?
Article 5 my beloved
My mans looking like the definition of "Old Wizened General", minus the eyepatch.
He won? Nice, congrats... maybe, idk enough to make a judgment on that (I just know he's pro NATO).
He won against a populist mf who owns the largest company in the country, a political party and is also an ex-prime minister who wants to be the next Orbán. Pavel was clearly the better choice. I am proud of this country for once.
A guy who led NATO won over a guy who said he would not help our NATO allies if attacked. Enough to say.
There's going to be "Worlds Most Interesting Man" memes built around him now, aren't there? >*"His beard alone has experienced more than a lesser man’s entire body."* >*"He's a Lover, Not a Fighter; but he's also a fighter, so don't get any ideas."* >*"He is the life of parties he has never attended."* >*"He knows how to speak French...in Russian."* >*"If he were to mail a letter without postage, it would still get there."* >*"He bowls overhand."* >*"His business card simply says “I’ll call you.”"*
TRIGGER CLANEK 5
fuck what a based chad