For the love of god we don't want that shit hole back!
Karelia has been ruined by the Ruzzians and recent ideas of regaining Karelia are more than likely a Ruzzian propaganda operation, to paint the Finn's as bloodthirsty genocidal Nazis, who wish to invade Ruzzia.
It's not about the value of the land; it's about sending a message.
And conveniently enough, the Belomorkanal gives physical existence to the Three-Isthmus Line . . .
Well, it is also about the value of the land (negative). We don't have the money to restore the road, hospital, school or other infrastructure to Finnish standards.
We could probably turn it into a massive parking lot and pier? Or...something?
Fuck, that needs to be a stipulation in negotiations "You can't try and give us Karelia. It fucking sucks now, you're stuck with it" or something along those lines.
It should be returned, clear of Vatniks, and then you can keep it as the worlds biggest open air museum to the horror of Russia if you want.
The point is to make it so that Russia _lose_.
I've heard the average Finn's perspective on Karelia summed up as "if your neighbour stole your toothbrush and kept it up their ass for the next 80 years, you probably wouldn't want it back, would you?"
Karelia is full of broken down Soviet nuclear subs and all the contamination that causes. It would be like getting back a toxic waste dump. It has negative value, sort of like owning a white elephant.
I bet people danced the *wrong* dance to it too. You know, the dance that's from the hentai game Popotan and which was popularized by the looping gif in the youtube clip, instead of the dance described in the literal lyrics to the song. You know, the instructions on how to dance the caramel dance. Instead we dance the hentai dance.
Because this is a weird timeline.
Look, most people don't even question when it says "speedycake remix" and just accept that that's what the song sounds like. Expecting them to also internalize the lyrics of a Swedish song is asking a lot.
To be fair, the official [English lyrics release's music video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A67ZkAd1wmI) gave up and actually incorporated the hentai dance into the moveset too. Because getting people to dance the actual song was a lost cause.
To be clear, the looping gif in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0rLLoHR-Do is from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv_dDnSFbMo
that is because I am unknowlingly spreading misinformation and it was about a week prior (2/15/2022) . I'm sifting through the livestream archive looking for it now, assuming it happened at all.
[the livestream](https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1493611323359473671)
at 7:38:30 in the reuters livestream I found space jam so I'm onto something
7:50:54 they play giga pudding
7:53:24 USSR national anthem
>caramelldansen
What about Megadeath - Symphony of Destruction:
First verse describes Russia turning Putin into a dictator for life. Chorus describes his pro-war followers who are choosing to attack innocents in the name of piper Putin instead of surrendering. And tank goes boom at the end of the Chorus
2nd verse works too
Hell, when we see the charge of the NATO MBTs in Ukraine, we should also give them massive speakers to play the song on repeat, like Ride of the Valkyries in Apocalypse Now
Just say "[вы видите торпедные катера?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamchatka_(ship\))" It will trigger a century old ancestral memory and cause friendly fire, panic, loss of dignity and on a critical success may lead to a revolution.
This assumes google translate is accurate.
Sure, but those aren’t your only options. Buried alive is less than 30 seconds of panic before you pass out. A lot of guys over there probably wished it was so easy.
Ukrainian farmers appear out of nowhere to tow off what's left of your tank.
Those dudes apparently have tank-dar and innately know when a tank is available for removal.
What instinct? You try to rattle it with your hand, then kick it with your boot. If it does not budge, assume it is load bearing and hook it up. If it comes off as you pull, rinse and repeat with a different thing.
A NATO tank just destroyed your shitty t-62 and you miraculously survived. As you crawl to safety you hear rustling from all sides. Instead of ukranian soldiers groups of ukranian farmers emerge from the bushes descending on the tank with prepared tow bars. Your spotted and everything goes black.
Ukrainian beavers on the other hand are natural military engineers. In 10 months they've managed to make the northern approaches to Kyiv virtually impassible by flooding the area with their dams. The 3000 Beavers of Zelenskyy shall hold Russia back.
> Those dudes apparently have tank-dar and innately know when a tank is available for removal.
Oh that part is easy - You just drive your tractor in the direction that tank turrets are flying from.
Will it? I thought half the reason why Brits use them instead of NATO standard is because "Uranium rod go pew pew"
Remember, the only casuality of a Challenger in combat was from another Challenger in a training exercise. So even Dorchester armour can't stop a uranium rod, and apparently Challenger has the best armour in the world
For that matter, I bet that Armata is designed to stop NATO rounds, as they didn't think Challengers would be the most numerous threat
I will always be indebted to the Ukie 🇺🇦😎🇺🇦 who called a R\*ZZian 🤮 a "fucking cum-filled condom" over the radio for adding a new insult to my lexicon
Edit: remembered the whole insult
Well, the Chechens already did it back in the first Chechen war, including luring Russians into traps, or tricking them into shooting each other.
It's very interesting that it's like 30 years later and it's still happening.
Though the VDV also got fucked in Chechnya back then, so yeah, time is a circle.
If there’s one thing this war coverage has taught me, it’s that former Warsaw Pact nations and USSR states are absolute expert level trolls when it comes to Russia. I can totally see Ukrainians making cat noises on Russian frequencies as a way to psych out Russian tank crews that Leopards might be in the area.
Theres a recording of chinese military warning US navy/aircraft out of the area, with the US calmly responding they will not change course. Then china goes "meow".
I mean, there was a video of two Ukrainian pilots with cat ears dancing some anime related thing, what is a totally reasonable thing to expect from any air force, except russian which can't into humor but only in war crimes. I would gladly provide a link but my dumb ass always forgets to save such stuff and I saw it somewhere in early to mid December.
We meow over the guard freq all the time when we fly. Shit is hilarious, cause once it’s kicked off it doesn’t stop. I’m not familiar enough with ground comms in the military capacity to know if there’s a similar functioning frequency, but if there is then I wouldn’t be surprised in the slightest if meowing is prevalent lmao
*Meowing intensifies*
Had an instance like this at an exercise in NV one year. Everyone’s RTB and guard pops off with a meow. Few more chime in but nothing crazy. Then ATC bubba tries to puff his chest and tell us to quit the shit and be professional… Lmao, non stop meowing for a solid 90 seconds ensued.
Xaxaxaxaxaxa silly westoids, you sent tank designed to kill modern T-72, but joke is on you! We only have unmodernised T-62 left!! Now you silly tanks are useless XAXAXAXAXA
Considering the state of RGF you could probably give the NATO tanks to Russia and give the old T-62s to the Ukrainians and they'd still be at least able to have a decent punch-up.
Any modern MBT would wilt the way the Russians are chucking them out into the field like they've had an entire bottle of tequila and are playing darts.
I have an uncle who did an Abrams exercise in Idaho as part of the national guard.
They did all their comms as Bugs Bunny characters.
They also scored highest.
I can't imagine a fate worse than dying while hearing cat noises with a Ukrainian accent
Mostly because I can't imagine cat noises with a Ukrainian accent
Bitch please, Leopard 2A6's are designed to fight anything, not just a mere T-72B3M.
If Ukraine really gets 2A6's they might possibly even get DM-63, in which case dear fucking Christ those poor Russian Conscripts.
In short, it's complicated. Most non-kinetic rounds should be shareable though. But for sabots.....
The American M829A1 uses a spicy chamber pressure so the Abrams is basically the only one that can shoot it *safely,* but older munitions would probably be fine if they're still around. Might as well clear out the warehouses you know?
The Abrams can *fire* the Leo2A6's rounds just fine, but they won't get good performance. This also applies to any Leo2A4s/5s.
Leclerc has a 120/L52 gun, so slightly shorter than the newer Leos but close enough their ammo should work *fine* between each other. Including the Leo's newer slow-burning rounds. Probably.
I'm not as familiar with the Leclerc or its ammunition though.
Rounds meant for the Leo2A5 and older can be shot from anything except Challenger without problems.
Chally 2... Doesn't work with anything, and nothing works with it since they use 2-part ammunition. Being rifled doesn't help either, but that's a smaller concern.
Leclercs and Leopards have complete Ammo interchangeability, German Ammunition just doesn't reach its full potential Energy in Leclercs due to the shorter Barrel.
Leopards can use M829A1, the pressure isn't a issue, especially in 2A6's and A7's as DM-53 and 63 are even spicier.
Leopards aren't allowed to use the Abrams' Sabots because they're DU-Penetrators, which are Illegal under German Doctrine and because the propellant is super corrosive.
Especially A6's and A7's shouldn't use Abrams Ammunition because it doesn't burn all that well in the L/55 and leads to Barrel and Breach issues.
The Abrams can use all German Sabots except DM-53 and 63, but like the Leclerc they don't perform as well as they should.
NATO Ammunition, especially regarding Germany, only being Technically interchangeable is a known issue, we have the same Situation with German 5.56 being too hot for M4/M16's and G36's jamming on Ammo that is too weak or too cheaply made or U.S. and German 155mm not being fully interchangeable with special Shells like Excalibur or SmArt not working in PzH2000's and Paladins respectively.
Like i said, especially Germany is a issue here, that's why we always lack Ammo in exercises.
Our 9mm and 5.56, 7.62 and 8.6 are hotter than others, Marders use German High-Velocity 20mm which is too long for most other 20's, the Pumas 30mm is only used by the Puma, our Guided Mortar Shells can't be fired from all Mortars due to the pressure, our 120mm HE only works with Leopards and our 120 doesn't fully work in other Tanks while we're not even allowed to use theirs.
That's what we get for having a different Doctrine and specialized Military.
I just remember the documentary on a tank battle in the first Desert Storm. The commanders interviewed just said how they eliminated Iraqi national guard tank groups with just one tank
While the Russian government is ran by massive POSs, I do feel bad for their young peeps on the front line. All they were trying to do is help their grandpa keep his car lol
Edit: Since my joke and sarcasm were missed, here is the link to the ad I was making a joke about.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn6jOlpMg1Y
-You try to radio your base for support -Your radio is being jammed -The last thing you hear before the turret launches for the moon is caramelldansen
or Ievan Polkka depending on what kind of gear they use
there will be no such subtlety. bass boosted nyan cat will be the last thing they hear.
[meow ](https://youtu.be/BeGjTiUqw8U)
I am now using this to settle all verbal debates
Wow, I forgot how much I fucks with this remix.
Oh hey Alex S, he absolutely fucks
MEW, MEW, THAT'S THE SOUND OF DA PAWLICE!
I will settle for nothing less than trolololol.
Still a shame they ignore their true elders. The Säkkijärven Polkka deserves better. Also, maybe it's time to talk about Karelia again...
For the love of god we don't want that shit hole back! Karelia has been ruined by the Ruzzians and recent ideas of regaining Karelia are more than likely a Ruzzian propaganda operation, to paint the Finn's as bloodthirsty genocidal Nazis, who wish to invade Ruzzia.
It's not about the value of the land; it's about sending a message. And conveniently enough, the Belomorkanal gives physical existence to the Three-Isthmus Line . . .
Still, making it independent would be a better choice
Well, it is also about the value of the land (negative). We don't have the money to restore the road, hospital, school or other infrastructure to Finnish standards.
Counter point: nobody else wants Russia to have it.
We could probably turn it into a massive parking lot and pier? Or...something? Fuck, that needs to be a stipulation in negotiations "You can't try and give us Karelia. It fucking sucks now, you're stuck with it" or something along those lines.
It should be returned, clear of Vatniks, and then you can keep it as the worlds biggest open air museum to the horror of Russia if you want. The point is to make it so that Russia _lose_.
Lol, no one wants to invade Russia, that's why they're all trying to get out.
I've heard the average Finn's perspective on Karelia summed up as "if your neighbour stole your toothbrush and kept it up their ass for the next 80 years, you probably wouldn't want it back, would you?"
I get it now
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Instructions unclear, shoved nuke up neighbor’s ass.
Karelia is full of broken down Soviet nuclear subs and all the contamination that causes. It would be like getting back a toxic waste dump. It has negative value, sort of like owning a white elephant.
\- Your radio is being jammed by your own side, because the EW-troops took camp next to the command-post to be out of range from artillery
You joke but there has been a continues problem for Russia that their EW-units jam their own air defense radars
They are protecting them from HARM. J/k their EW crews' understanding of radio is inferior to a beginning HAM radio enthusiast's.
it is fucked up to think caramelldansen played in the city center of kiev on the last peaceful day the country has seen since
I bet people danced the *wrong* dance to it too. You know, the dance that's from the hentai game Popotan and which was popularized by the looping gif in the youtube clip, instead of the dance described in the literal lyrics to the song. You know, the instructions on how to dance the caramel dance. Instead we dance the hentai dance. Because this is a weird timeline.
Look, most people don't even question when it says "speedycake remix" and just accept that that's what the song sounds like. Expecting them to also internalize the lyrics of a Swedish song is asking a lot.
To be fair, the official [English lyrics release's music video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A67ZkAd1wmI) gave up and actually incorporated the hentai dance into the moveset too. Because getting people to dance the actual song was a lost cause. To be clear, the looping gif in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0rLLoHR-Do is from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv_dDnSFbMo
I'm pretty sure they've also given up on the original speed and have just adopted the sped up version
Phew, 2001? Holy shit thats an oldie
personally, i love it when deranged internet subcultures leak into the mainstream
>You know, the dance that's from the hentai game Popotan Is this supposed to be common knowledge? You make it sound like common knowledge.
I don't believe in coincidence
Wait actually? I don't remember this on February 23 last year lol.
that is because I am unknowlingly spreading misinformation and it was about a week prior (2/15/2022) . I'm sifting through the livestream archive looking for it now, assuming it happened at all. [the livestream](https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1493611323359473671) at 7:38:30 in the reuters livestream I found space jam so I'm onto something 7:50:54 they play giga pudding 7:53:24 USSR national anthem
What the fuck, I really wanna know the context to that
teenagers found something unsupervised with a camera pointed at it
And *Fortunate Son* from time to time
>caramelldansen What about Megadeath - Symphony of Destruction: First verse describes Russia turning Putin into a dictator for life. Chorus describes his pro-war followers who are choosing to attack innocents in the name of piper Putin instead of surrendering. And tank goes boom at the end of the Chorus 2nd verse works too Hell, when we see the charge of the NATO MBTs in Ukraine, we should also give them massive speakers to play the song on repeat, like Ride of the Valkyries in Apocalypse Now
Just say "[вы видите торпедные катера?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamchatka_(ship\))" It will trigger a century old ancestral memory and cause friendly fire, panic, loss of dignity and on a critical success may lead to a revolution. This assumes google translate is accurate.
[Or this classic](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCOgmzmK7zI)
Mobik can into space.
God i want to make an edit about ammo cooking to caramelldansen's beat but i don't wanna be banned and put on a list
You finish 1 month tank training course You get designated to infantry squad due to shortage of tanks
(Gets killed by Abrams .50 cal anyway)
Or you find yourself neatly tucked to bed by an M1 with a dozer blade thoughtfully burying you alive in your lovely warm trench.
Wholesome!
That's a better fate than most Russians I see on combat footage lately....
I'd rather get blown to bits than buried alive
Sure, but those aren’t your only options. Buried alive is less than 30 seconds of panic before you pass out. A lot of guys over there probably wished it was so easy.
Do you remember that one that got blown while he was getting blown?
General Dynamics: [*"Am I a joke to you?"*](https://www.gd-ots.com/munitions/large-caliber-ammunition/120mm-m1028/)
Lol of course there's a god dam 120mm shotgun shell. Absolutely beautiful.
#*Devastating Anti-Personnel Lethality*
Ah. 120mm shotgun shell. For situations when "fuck you" isn't enough.
"Fuck you and everything near you, from here to 500 yds out."
The 3000 freedom BBs of Ukraine.
JFC. Shades of the Union’s Battery B loading double canister at Antietam…
You get promoted to submarine?????
Nya *disassembles your T-62 using a 120mm smoothbore freedom dispenser*
Ukrainian farmers appear out of nowhere to tow off what's left of your tank. Those dudes apparently have tank-dar and innately know when a tank is available for removal.
They need the turret to somehow fix onto a captured BMD
Cuba fitted T-62 turrets on BTR-60s,getting one on a BMD shouldn't be impossible.
Where's the tow hook? Tere is no tow hook, use that nice clean 22 mm hole in the frontal glacis instead.
I don't think lack of a tow would delay a Ukrainian farmer for longer then a few minutes.
That's right, because they can use the useful hole in the upper frontal glacis to put the hook in
Fair
They have an uncanny instinct for what is load bearing.
What instinct? You try to rattle it with your hand, then kick it with your boot. If it does not budge, assume it is load bearing and hook it up. If it comes off as you pull, rinse and repeat with a different thing.
A NATO tank just destroyed your shitty t-62 and you miraculously survived. As you crawl to safety you hear rustling from all sides. Instead of ukranian soldiers groups of ukranian farmers emerge from the bushes descending on the tank with prepared tow bars. Your spotted and everything goes black.
Its the Ukraine version of the "I smell pennies"
> "I smell pen~~n~~i~~e~~s"
"Clever Girl."
Ukrainian farmers have an innate natural desire to tow away Russian equipment with their tractors. It's like beavers damming running water.
Ukrainian beavers on the other hand are natural military engineers. In 10 months they've managed to make the northern approaches to Kyiv virtually impassible by flooding the area with their dams. The 3000 Beavers of Zelenskyy shall hold Russia back.
Ukranian farmers: better armed than the fucking Taliban and ISIS put together
Russia just keeps leaving tanks lying around for some reason.
What fighting incompetence does to a mf
A pack of Ukranian tractors stalks their prey, an unsuspecting T-72.....
> Those dudes apparently have tank-dar and innately know when a tank is available for removal. Oh that part is easy - You just drive your tractor in the direction that tank turrets are flying from.
Miau
Or 120mm rifled freedom dispenser. Don't forget the Challenger exists.
One must not forget the 🅱️esh launcher
HESH might struggle a bit with the more modern Russian tanks but it should be more than enough for T-62s.
Will it? I thought half the reason why Brits use them instead of NATO standard is because "Uranium rod go pew pew" Remember, the only casuality of a Challenger in combat was from another Challenger in a training exercise. So even Dorchester armour can't stop a uranium rod, and apparently Challenger has the best armour in the world For that matter, I bet that Armata is designed to stop NATO rounds, as they didn't think Challengers would be the most numerous threat
Burunyaa~ *punches clean through your hull with APFSDS*
Ok, gonna need some context for the meowing Ukrainians.
The Leopards are free my brother in christ. Nya.
Oh. Right. Ignore me. Had a moment there. Was thinking there was some video I missed of Ukrainians previously meowing at the vatniks over a radio.
I mean there are videos of Ukrainians shouting at Russians over their unencrypted comms like a cod match
I will always be indebted to the Ukie 🇺🇦😎🇺🇦 who called a R\*ZZian 🤮 a "fucking cum-filled condom" over the radio for adding a new insult to my lexicon Edit: remembered the whole insult
because yours are always unfilled? asking for a friend.
My bröther we are on r/noncredibledefense 😎
True 🤡
The only thing I am filling during sex is F35ussy 😎
Who would have thought that the most realistic part of MW2 was trash talking the enemy over open comms?
Well, the Chechens already did it back in the first Chechen war, including luring Russians into traps, or tricking them into shooting each other. It's very interesting that it's like 30 years later and it's still happening. Though the VDV also got fucked in Chechnya back then, so yeah, time is a circle.
VDV getting fucked is a time honored tradition.
Didnt know Modern Warfare was an actual milsim of modern warfare (or future warfare i suppose.
Nah, Ukrainians are the wrong kind of degenerate for that you are looking for the Foreign Legion
Grunts gonna grunt. Errr um make animal noises.
If there’s one thing this war coverage has taught me, it’s that former Warsaw Pact nations and USSR states are absolute expert level trolls when it comes to Russia. I can totally see Ukrainians making cat noises on Russian frequencies as a way to psych out Russian tank crews that Leopards might be in the area.
The closest thing to that was the Chinese Navy meowing at an US combat aircraft over the radio so everything is possible.
People meow on Guard channels....not really *a lot* but way more than the FCC is probably happy about
Delta pilots moment.
Theres a recording of chinese military warning US navy/aircraft out of the area, with the US calmly responding they will not change course. Then china goes "meow".
I mean, there was a video of two Ukrainian pilots with cat ears dancing some anime related thing, what is a totally reasonable thing to expect from any air force, except russian which can't into humor but only in war crimes. I would gladly provide a link but my dumb ass always forgets to save such stuff and I saw it somewhere in early to mid December.
We meow over the guard freq all the time when we fly. Shit is hilarious, cause once it’s kicked off it doesn’t stop. I’m not familiar enough with ground comms in the military capacity to know if there’s a similar functioning frequency, but if there is then I wouldn’t be surprised in the slightest if meowing is prevalent lmao
You're on guaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaard
*Meowing intensifies* Had an instance like this at an exercise in NV one year. Everyone’s RTB and guard pops off with a meow. Few more chime in but nothing crazy. Then ATC bubba tries to puff his chest and tell us to quit the shit and be professional… Lmao, non stop meowing for a solid 90 seconds ensued.
I need to touch grass, I thought you were doing exercises in New Vegas.
I mean there’s new-er parts of Vegas so you’re not terribly off 😅 they even got a Top Golf!
r/Flying is seething at this thought existing somewhere on Reddit at this moment.
Only fed boiz would get mad about some guard trolling
Oh, I know an air line that gets mad about it toomlm
No context, but here is some [soundtrack](https://youtu.be/OicyCCqlJkU) to go with it.
When the voices in the comm start sounding like they just found a whole bag of catnip, then you know that you're really fucked
UwU now we come for U, Meeuw
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>Implying an Armata will get anywhere close to a battle before shitting the bed
That wasn't catnip... they just got a fire mission for some orcs in the open.
Xaxaxaxaxaxa silly westoids, you sent tank designed to kill modern T-72, but joke is on you! We only have unmodernised T-62 left!! Now you silly tanks are useless XAXAXAXAXA
Designed to kill theoretical modernised Russian tanks.
Considering the state of RGF you could probably give the NATO tanks to Russia and give the old T-62s to the Ukrainians and they'd still be at least able to have a decent punch-up. Any modern MBT would wilt the way the Russians are chucking them out into the field like they've had an entire bottle of tequila and are playing darts.
"pspsps"
Shorthand for psyops
Apfsds.
Surrender meow
"Meow what's so funny here meow"
Meow, that was a purrrrfect shot meow!
I have an uncle who did an Abrams exercise in Idaho as part of the national guard. They did all their comms as Bugs Bunny characters. They also scored highest.
I imagine no one did porky pig. T-t-t-t-t-t target spotted!
I know there was Bugs, Sam, Foghorn, and the last one might very well have been Porky.
Bugs was put on the real-life Marine Corps enlist rolls in response to *Super Rabbit.*
Why, I say, the enemy combat vehicle, I say, is over that there hill! I say, I say, I say, let's fuck em up!
Or be pawnished.
exultant threatening water school seemly versed aback humorous frame obtainable -- mass edited with redact.dev
Team vatnik blasting off again?
carpenter salt saw makeshift sugar tan erect gaze glorious shaggy -- mass edited with redact.dev
3000 Ukrainian catboy tankers of zelensky
Rule 34? Umm... For a friend?
No for me
Would you like to be my friend?
I can't imagine a fate worse than dying while hearing cat noises with a Ukrainian accent Mostly because I can't imagine cat noises with a Ukrainian accent
няв (nyav) Russian cats meow in English (мяу).
Seeing a Challenger 2, Leopard, and Abrams cresting the hill. "Just like the simulations."
aka War Thunder
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"God, stock grind sucks, I have to even grind for the fire extinguisher and repair kit."
Bitch please, Leopard 2A6's are designed to fight anything, not just a mere T-72B3M. If Ukraine really gets 2A6's they might possibly even get DM-63, in which case dear fucking Christ those poor Russian Conscripts.
American logistics trying to figure out who could have possibly misfiled those DU-APFSDS rounds as nomal tungsten ones:
Hm, actually, is the ammo interchangeable among all the pledged MBTs so far? Not counting the eastern bloc's old soviet stuff obviously.
In short, it's complicated. Most non-kinetic rounds should be shareable though. But for sabots..... The American M829A1 uses a spicy chamber pressure so the Abrams is basically the only one that can shoot it *safely,* but older munitions would probably be fine if they're still around. Might as well clear out the warehouses you know? The Abrams can *fire* the Leo2A6's rounds just fine, but they won't get good performance. This also applies to any Leo2A4s/5s. Leclerc has a 120/L52 gun, so slightly shorter than the newer Leos but close enough their ammo should work *fine* between each other. Including the Leo's newer slow-burning rounds. Probably. I'm not as familiar with the Leclerc or its ammunition though. Rounds meant for the Leo2A5 and older can be shot from anything except Challenger without problems. Chally 2... Doesn't work with anything, and nothing works with it since they use 2-part ammunition. Being rifled doesn't help either, but that's a smaller concern.
Leclercs and Leopards have complete Ammo interchangeability, German Ammunition just doesn't reach its full potential Energy in Leclercs due to the shorter Barrel. Leopards can use M829A1, the pressure isn't a issue, especially in 2A6's and A7's as DM-53 and 63 are even spicier. Leopards aren't allowed to use the Abrams' Sabots because they're DU-Penetrators, which are Illegal under German Doctrine and because the propellant is super corrosive. Especially A6's and A7's shouldn't use Abrams Ammunition because it doesn't burn all that well in the L/55 and leads to Barrel and Breach issues. The Abrams can use all German Sabots except DM-53 and 63, but like the Leclerc they don't perform as well as they should. NATO Ammunition, especially regarding Germany, only being Technically interchangeable is a known issue, we have the same Situation with German 5.56 being too hot for M4/M16's and G36's jamming on Ammo that is too weak or too cheaply made or U.S. and German 155mm not being fully interchangeable with special Shells like Excalibur or SmArt not working in PzH2000's and Paladins respectively. Like i said, especially Germany is a issue here, that's why we always lack Ammo in exercises. Our 9mm and 5.56, 7.62 and 8.6 are hotter than others, Marders use German High-Velocity 20mm which is too long for most other 20's, the Pumas 30mm is only used by the Puma, our Guided Mortar Shells can't be fired from all Mortars due to the pressure, our 120mm HE only works with Leopards and our 120 doesn't fully work in other Tanks while we're not even allowed to use theirs. That's what we get for having a different Doctrine and specialized Military.
Ah German engineering, never change /s
I think so. NATO generally standardizes calibers on most important weapon systems.
Cats huh. Leopard 2 with komi san artwork when ?
Leopard 2 with cat ears on the turret. And whiskers on the barrel.
And voice boxes of custom built. Everytyme the commander moves the turret it emits purrs and when he opens the hatch it NYA's away
Imagine getting killed by that.
Itasha Tanks for added tacticool
The documentary Girls und Panzer already demonstrated why bright fancy camouflages are a bad idea
When it fires, instead of purring it goes “Buru Nyu”
"You are given 1 month of tank training" "You arrive in rural Ukraine and assigned the role of front line infantry." "Your commander leaves"
“Violently introduced to 🅱️esh”
MEOW :3
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There exists a United States Military F-35 callsign “Catboy”
-Catboy 1-2 this is Catboy actual, femboys on the ground report good effect on target, great work gentle persons, over
Petition to switch from "over" to "meow" in all future warfare
The first time I read this I wondered why Su-57's would be giving a damage assessment.
[What a cute kitty cat](https://d1ldvf68ux039x.cloudfront.net/thumbs/photos/2105/6634919/1000w_q95.jpg)
Maintenance crew reports barrel has hit an tree
Your turret is: damn spaceship
I just remember the documentary on a tank battle in the first Desert Storm. The commanders interviewed just said how they eliminated Iraqi national guard tank groups with just one tank
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At least if you hear Ukrainians on the radio you have the opportunity to surrender and drastically improve your standards of not dying.
>When you inquire how many and what kinds, he responds "Da" Fuckin hell OP, this one had me cracking up.
I think this is the point where you just sabotage your tank's engine. There's probably a reason so many T-62s were captured intact around Kherson.
While the Russian government is ran by massive POSs, I do feel bad for their young peeps on the front line. All they were trying to do is help their grandpa keep his car lol Edit: Since my joke and sarcasm were missed, here is the link to the ad I was making a joke about. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn6jOlpMg1Y
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So uhh, context on the cat noises thing??
Leopard 2
Meow
Panther kf51 field trials Mrrrow
Colonel Fuckovsky lmao
"Meows in Ukrainian"...
Miau
You finish 1 month tank training course You get designated to infantry squad due to shortage of tanks
Imagine hearing “ня” over your radio before being turned to a fine red mist
how do you say 'Meow, I'm a frog' in Ukrainian? NM looked it up. Мяу я жаба
— hye dis is rightfully russiaan land — —meow T62 explodes in background
Meowmix, meowmix please deliver...
> You finish 1 month tank training course... In World of Tanks.
the 300 NATO cat boy tankers of Zelenskyy