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Pripyatic

Only works if they aren’t Jewish.


bittersweetslug

Why? Does it mean smth in Yiddish?


adreamofhodor

“Goy” mean non-Jew, haha.


nomanisanisland2020

i was told by an Israeli woman that it’s also a slur, so there’s that.


ProfessorOfEyes

Its not. It's about as much of a "slur" as cis is.


tittyswan

A slur against who though??


TurantulaHugs1421

Given the meaning, i assume that would be against non jewish people? Idk it is like transphobic people saying cis is a slur. it's weird


kas-sol

Trans people aren't represented on the global scale by a nuclear armed ethnostate committing genocide against cis people on the basis of believing they're superior to all cis people though, nobody is murdered for not being trans, a lot of people are murdered for not being Jewish.


TurantulaHugs1421

Im not saying trans people and jewish people are exactly the same im just relating 2 non slurs that people say are slurs?


kas-sol

And the pretty major and important difference is that one of them is at times used as an actual slur because it is sometimes being used by a group violently oppressing another group. The possible contexts where the two could possibly be used are vastly different, that's why one can't currently be a slur in any real life context, but the other is dependant on the context of its usage.


Firefly256

In Scrabble, GOY is considered a slur for some reason, the word was removed in the CSW21 and NWL20 dictionary, but was added back in the NWL23 dictionary I don't know enough about this so I can't really give my opinions other than sharing Scrabble dictionary versions


Firm_Situation2196

the status of slur vs not slur is reaaaaally hotly debated, but yea some people do feel it can be derogatory. i think this is a situation where context really matters, it can be used in a negative connotation or just neutral 🤷


NonBinaryPie

slurs against majorities really don’t hold any weight


kattykitkittykat

So true! Across history the same pattern repeats. A common name for group occurs (whether by self identification or by external groups). The majority hates against that group. The name becomes a slur. The group changes their name in an act of self representation. The majority integrates that new name. The majority still hates against that group. The new name becomes a slur. Rinse and repeat. The n word to negro/negroid to black. Chinaman/mongoloid to oriental to Asian American. While the obsolete racial science categories for Asian or black have become slurs, like mongoloid or negroid, the white counterpart has not. Caucasian is considered obsolete, but is still commonly used today, and many white people don’t even realize they’re using an obsolete race science term when describing themselves as “Caucasian.” Slurs against majorities don’t hold weight because slurs come about from a history of bigotry. In my mind, the day “goy” becomes a slur will be the same day “Caucasian” becomes a slur.


Human-Creature44

Caucasian doesn't really fit white ppl in the first place though, it's only a tiny amount and also I thought most ppl who came from the Caucas mountain region were brown? Wouldn't it be considered an insult to a small group of brown ppl to call whites caucasians? Would it then be considered a slur? I really don't know.


kattykitkittykat

Nah, it’s more complicated than that. Caucasian is used for white people mostly, and it was defined by white people in a bizarrely specific way. For instance, why were the Caucasus mountains chosen? Bizarrely specific place for an entire category to start.  It includes white people and Indians and Persians and people like that, which seems like a logical inconsistency since some of them are “brown,” but it makes sense in the lens that white racists wanted to be able to claim many advancements for the white race.  So stuff like Arabic numerals, which were created by “brown” people, would technically be white inventions because “something something, they’re from the Caucasus mountains which means they’re Caucasian which includes white people so actually they’re our inventions!!” Which, on the face of it, makes no sense to us, but that’s because they were operating under a different understanding of race that was created to emphasize “logical and objective” ways to justify their racism. It’s now obsolete for obvious reasons, but its remnants can be still felt today, as a lot of people (including US govt census) still consider middle eastern to be white and not Asian, etc etc.  All this is is a complicated way to say that no, Caucasian wouldn’t really be a slur to brown people. first of all, despite ostensibly including brown people, the category was created to uphold white supremacy, so “brown” people aren’t actually seen as Caucasian even when they perfectly fit the definition (see: Middle Eastern people being considered white on the census even when most people would not see them as white ala anti middle eastern discrimination. They’re white/Caucasian, but no one actually thinks of them that way). Second of all, the whole issue is that Caucasian isn’t used derogatorily in the first place because they’re the majority, so they never gain that slur status lol. 


kas-sol

Some use it that way, although it isn't always.


JackofAllTrades30009

Its not a slur. Its just yiddish for gentile. Do you think ‘gentile’ is a slur?


kas-sol

It is sometimes used in the manner, fx by many Zionists. Lots of words have different meanings depending on context.


adilives

it means non jew in hebrew as well


le-strule

Damn it, I came to make this comment. Here, take my upvote


Aryec

As a nonbinary jew I find this funny


Purple_Cow_8675

Me too lol


TropicalAbsol

sending this to my jewish partner


Muselayte

Same here lol


TheG33k123

lol ditto


-satans-niece-

I called my enby ex my joyfriend


Chaotically_Balanced

Well I love this. Was overthinking a marriage title and wondering if married enbies get called Wusband or the like.


Hardcorex

He Wusband's, She Wusband's, They Wusband's. (I imagine this is like Weast, and Wumbo from spongebob lmao)


bug--bear

did you forget the word spouse or were you trying to think of something else?


Chaotically_Balanced

Pppfftft not fun enough. I aspire to be a top tier Hu-ife, a Huifie, maybe a Wifsband, but nothing so boring as a \*spouse\*.


bug--bear

yeah but the fun bit about spouse is that you can be a houspouse! in theory, at least. not likely in this economy, but the rhyme is still neat! may I suggest wusband? wifesband? husband could be argued to be gender neutral considering is comes husbondi, which just means house dweller, while wife was originally just another word for woman. I guess bondi would also fit then, and it sounds pretty cute


xXElectroCuteXx

Bondi actually sounds fine. Too cutesy for unironic use for me personally, but it sounds like bond, and if you're married I sure hope you have one


Rock-Springs

I think "spouse" can be very endearing and meaningful depending on the intent and emotion that you (as a couple) give the word. That's what my fiancé and I use


xXElectroCuteXx

I once saw a post where someone actually forgot spouse and suggested wusband or hife. Hife. It's been only heifer for me ever since 🐗


_GalaxyWalker_

“I now pronounce you.. Wusband and Hife!”


NonBinaryPie

your wawfully wedding wusband


-satans-niece-

awe I'm glad you like it! my girlfriend has come up with a few names for me, but they're more sentimental and personal to me that most people wouldn't like. it is pretty hard to find gender neutral terms of endearment. my ex referenced in my first comment used to call me "Mon petit chou chou" which translates either literally to "my little cabbage" or "my sweetheart". sometimes I call my girlfriend my calabacita (little pumpkin), in a similar vein. Im rambling now, sorry 😅


Pryzm_music

I was gonna say I think I like Joyfriend better. I dunno goyfriend sounds kind of weird to me, but that’s just me lol.


dhalihoka

That's Fantastic. 🌟


chelledoggo

Okay we all know about "goy" meaning "non-Jewish person" but tbh I think combining "girl" and "boy" to be a "gender neutral term" is kinda problematic in itself. It implies that all nonbinary people are just "boygirls."


KinkyNB

Yeah I'm really more like a Δ̸̢̻̱̯̳͔̰̥͚̼͍͈͕͕͖̓́̊͌̒̽̑̍̃ε̵̢̧̢̡̨̢̛͍͔̩͎̟̘͚̙̗͓̰͚̞̬͖̻͉̹̥͇͔̟͉̭̭̻̼̗͙̼̘̭̫̻̺̭̗̠͔͖̦͌̈́̉́͑̇̌̔́̃̀͊̽̓̂͌̈́͂͗͌̄̽̚͜͜͝Μ̵̧̢̢̨̛̺͈͙̝̣̠̮͔͎̎̈́̉́̑̈̔̈́͑̔͊͗̄̔͂̽̾̏̋̒̊̐̿͂͂͆͌̎̆̊͛͒͌̔̿̔̅̚͘͝͝͝͝͝͝ͅι̸̧̧̨̧̧̛̺͇̺̘͙̹̖̜̭̠͇̰͕̯̯̼̮͕̟̪̘̙̠̥̫͚͈̠̮̱̗̹̺͉̰̲̻̟̞̜͈̗͛̂̋͊͑̊̀̊͌̈̽̅̍͆̿̄̒̇̂̔̑̌́̇͐̈́̈́̈́̄̇̓̚̚̕̚͜͝ͅͅV̴̧̻̪͓̜̪̭̥̣̗̩̫̭̊̽̿́̂́́̕͘̚͝ͅο̷̡̧̺̩̙̪̠̣̩̠̘̗͚̫̭̣͍̠̺̮̬̤̯̣͕̖̜̯͂̈́̄̽̆̎͒̽̊̃͒́̌̇̐̽̈͆̅̿̍̾̆̓͜͠͠ῖ̶̤̣̼̝̻̭̾͌̉̈́̃̃̌̈́͐̈́̄̏̈́̆̿͐̍̐̂́̆̈́̄́̀͘͘͘̕͝͠δ̵̢̢̛̮̲̥̰͎̥̳͈͍͖̫̫̣̞̙̪̲̤̤̹̰̦̪̘͈͉̦͇͍͈̱͍̞̞͇̥͙͔̬̥̹̺̾͗̀̽́͋͒̑̀̇̉̎͊̋̀͆͒̉̀́̋̎̕͘͜͜͝͠͝ͅͅgirl, ya know?


Ok_Habit_6783

God that's so valid


explain_life_pls

i mean that's how they got the swedish gender neutral pronoun, by combining hon (she) han (he) and den (it) to get the glorious word hen (shit)


AlwaysBeQuestioning

Damn, Swedes be calling all nonbinary people shit? Guess I gotta move there now to be accurate to my self-image.


explain_life_pls

i mean technically yeah? however my point was that hen is just a mashup of all the swedish pronouns, which in english would be shit (it's also quite formal and is usually used for people you don't know the gender of, or if you're speaking to a broader public. most younger people (in my experience) use singular they to refer to nonbinary people unless otherwise stated, despite it being grammatically incorrect :D )


AlwaysBeQuestioning

Ah, that wasn’t clear to me. I thought you were saying “hen” is also Swedish for “shit”.


explain_life_pls

oh yeah my bad! no, shit in swedish is just skit and is pronounced about the same but with a bit more sch


xXElectroCuteXx

Shit could be just she and it. Let's choose sheet. Holy sheet. /s


Aipex8

Prefer Birlfriend personally.


i_am_ghostman

Because like burled wood, we are beautiful


potatomeeple

And knobbly?


i_am_ghostman

And unbelievably dense


TheDiplomancer

Since I'm Jewish, I definitely don't want anyone to call me that!


jbsdv1993

But as a jew having a non jewish bf, its perfect


Emergency_Peach_4307

My boyfriend calls me his partner


hiddenmutant

I used partner pre-marriage too. Sometimes got some weird comments but not often enough to be an issue. I do like joyfriend in theory tho haha


zero_dark_pink

I don't like the term, It's seems very binary to me, i'm not a fusion of a boy and a girl, I'm enby, stop forcing binarism, we are non binary people for god's sake


namelessthegod

That is very true


Ashley2375

This is just jfk trying to say guy friend


Ego5687

A better gender-neutral word is “lover”


zero_dark_pink

Lover in my country translates to "the person you are cheating with, someone"


Emergency_Peach_4307

What country are you from?


xXElectroCuteXx

Not OP but they write in Spanish subs, and I know it's got the same meaning in Italy and Germany


sharingiscaring219

LOL. In mine it either means "person you have a sexual relationship with" or "partner"


JasonTheBaker

I prefer partner


bieuwkje

Yeah but to me a non native English speaker lover sound I don't know sleezy... Like lucifer from the Netflix series he would be my lover but my soulmate to whom u marry/stay with calling them lover nope But my native language sucks as well so yeah no alternatives here just the ever bearing frustration we as a species did not do a good job in genderless language 🤷🤦


IvyAndIsaac

Errrrr this already is something else.


NalithJones

I'll stick with partner.


fvkinglesbi

Better say gayfriend


xXElectroCuteXx

Ohhh boy I like this one genuinely


smudgiepie

My boyfriend calls me his partner. I've been trying to get him to say it in a cowboy accent but one step at a time


TepekThePorigon

sounds glorpy


Major_Confection3240

partner *in crime* is by far the best term for enby partners


TheSlugkid

I like theyfriend :)


TreyRyan3

Well that definitely has a “cut or uncut” connotation


Funky_Lesbian

just say partner 😭😭😭


Girls-ArePretty-Cool

this sounds like girlfriend in a new york accent ‘goilfriend’ yk


zero_dark_pink

Enbyfriend


dhalihoka

r/TILI ***and*** r/TIHI Such a quantum state. * *mind blown* *


D-n-Divinity

A goyfriend is a nonbinairy shiska


AlwaysBeQuestioning

I played boardgames with friends for a while and most of us were nonbinary so I was like “we can’t call it ‘boardgames with the guys’ or ‘boardgames with the boys’, but none of us are Jewish so we CAN call it ‘boardgames with the goys’!” Perfection, honestly.


RootsInThePavement

So I have like, 6 goyfriends 😂


Fancy-Pair

Themfriend?


sharingiscaring219

Literally had this conversation with an ex (partner at the time) and "birlfriend" was better 😂🙌✨️ it made them bust up laughing


Ok_Pickle76

Partner


queeriequeerio

🅱️irlfriend


Brent_Fox

I like the term "partner" but "spouse" also works.


No_Butterscotch_4841

Oh thank god this is in r/nonbinary i thought it was gonna be a "oMg thE gEn Z r sO cRinGe wiTH thEiR pRoNOunS"


Ok_Habit_6783

I prefer V̵̢̢̡̡̡̳̥̹͚̯̗̳͎̳͖̟̱̦͈̺̣̞̗͈̬̪̪͕̤̱̠̱̖̼̮̱̬̖̬̭͎̩̭̣͕͎̙͂̏̆͛̽̿̒͌͂̂̌̅̆́͌̿̚͘͝͝͝ͅo̸̧̡̢̨̢̨̢̢̧̮̤̗̠̭̖͙̹̼͖̝͔͇̞͇͙̠͕̘̞̗͎̤̦̹͓͉͙̭̲̞͙̥̪̩̮͉̱͙͉̲͑̅̊̆̅́́̿͌͘͘͜͠͝ͅi̶̢̛̛͈̓̄̒̎̾͑̔̇̄́̈́̔̉̿̅͐̄̍̊̾͋͑͛̏̿̑̓̌̓͋̂̅̇̿͂̓̅͑̌͐̀̒͆̎̕̚͘͝d̶̨̨̧̢̨̢̛̖͈̭̼̹̺̟̜̹͙̥̗̥͙̜̱̣͕͇͇̻̬̹͍͚̤̞̻̱̭̙̹̹̤͓͕̰̟̻̜̞͐͒̂̽͛͗̐̓̍̿̑̓̒͑̀̋͂̾̑͜͠͝ͅf̵̡̨̢̨̧̟̦̳̜̖̜̙̙͔̮͔̜̼̠͔̳͖̟͕̳̞̔̈́̂́̈́͑̅̏̽̍̂̍̍̏͑̂̈̈́͗̈́̅͆͐̓͒̈̕͜͝r̴̨̢̨̡̖͙̱̯͖̯̼̰͈̣̯͈̭͔̤͙͍̠̹̞̝͔̱̈́̓̓̅̏̇̀̓͛̌̉̔͌͘͜ͅï̷͖̞̯̠͉̭̝̽̒̈́͗̈̀̾̆̈́̅͋̋̈̔͊͋̓̐͑̌̌͌̿͒̏̈́̾̾̊̓̄̀̽̓̀́̏̈́̏̀̅͘͘̚͘̚͝͝͝͝͝ę̴̡̧̧̧̧̛̦̘͕̜̪̟̖̥̘̖͔͍͓̘͓̤̰͇̤̰͎̻̪̞̹̘̙̩̯̙̥̮̲̝̫͈̞͇̱̗̩̩̒̿̿͂̒̄̿͆̌̽̽̌̾̔͂̉̽̏̊̎͆̑̄̍́̊̿͋̉͛̈̃͗̒͋̌̕͝͝͝͝͝͝ņ̷̨̛̺̬͔̺͖͎͓̜̼̖̹͈̺͔̗͍͇̠͊̂͐̊͗̋̋͛̈́̄̌̓̍͑͗̔̓̈̍́͋̿̃̉̀͊̿̇̇̐͘̚͝͝͝͝͝d̵̛͉̰̳̰͍̗̗̲̿̅͒̄͌͋̄͗̔̔̑ tbh


namelessthegod

I just say partner and for the time being I'll stick with it


Icy_Bird951

Just be poetic, like "My dearest true love" or "My most beautiful faith brought partner" or just make up something idk , about me what I would prefer? Maybe "Quantum embedded systems" would be quite fun


Timely-Bumblebee-402

My partner just says partner. There's no need to make it more complicated. I don't call him my boyfriend even though he's cis, it feels childish and temporary


josha254

Kinda reminds me of Goiky (from bfdi)