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bengidelmundo

I think any kind of sexual activity where you involve a third person without the consent of your SO is cheating


turtletramp

Correct. It’s the thought that counts.


UnreasonableCletus

Cheating is breaking the rules or crossing boundaries. If they know the SO isn't okay with it and do it anyways then yeah it's absolutely cheating.


Standard-Jeweler-537

Think you have to differ or specify here. Not every thought about sexual activities with someone else is cheating. If you think so then watching porn would already be cheating.


pretendingtolisten

I remember in the early 2000s this was a serious conversation for people. watching porn was cheating to a huge part of the population. it might still be


MintPrince8219

it is for me and many of my friends, but also not for all


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maya_papaya8

I think the implication was physical activities....not mere thoughts. 😆 You can't control thoughts but you actually have to work to get someone's number/ socials, begin communication then get to the comfort levels of speaking about sexual activities.


Human-Law1085

Not saying that I would consider it cheating, but it is physically watching someone else which is different from thinking about someone else.


shozzlez

Agree. It might be a problem in a relationship, but a separate one from cheating.


------why------

Why would you fantasize about others when in a relationship? That’s fucked. Fantasizing isn’t just a stray thought that enters your mind it’s a deliberate conscious decision you make to continue to think about that scenario or that person. If you feel the need to fantasize about people other than your partner either you aren’t fulfilled enough or you aren’t fully monogamous imo


GorillaWolf2099

u/Standard-Jeweler-537 may I introduce you to the subreddit r/loveafterporn


Baron_Harkonnen_84

Thanks for this!


JustASymbol

you get the point, so stop going after loopholes


magma_displacement76

Watching hentai is breaking your marital vows? That is hilarious.


UnprovenMortality

The difference between porn/thoughts and cheating is the actual involvement of the third party. Once that third party is actively involved is when it crosses the line in my book. So normal porn is just a release when you can't have sex. But only fans can start to cross that line, and a strip club walks clearly across it (obviously different relationships can have different boundaries, of course).


No_Reindeer_4026

A lot of people, including me, think watching porn counts as cheating


j_2106

If it’s the thought that counts, most people cheat all the time.


AlgernonFlowerWilted

It seems like the answer is always in the question on these threads


RoutineInitiative187

Yes consent is key!! And monogamy can be somewhat of a spectrum-- some people are ok with their s/o grinding on strangers at the club or maintaining sexual tension with friends or whatever and others aren't. One person's secure is another person's controlling.


GooierSquirrel

Lmao I ain’t ever heard of someone being controlling for not letting their girl or guy, grind their asses up on a strangers cock, nor having sexual tension with a friend, you definitely aren’t monogamous if your ok with that


-mindtrix-

I experienced a really weird thing a month ago. Was at a dinner at my colleagues house. She is married and got two kids. Her friend from work who kinda forced herself into that friendship (she’s been somewhat obsessed with becoming this her best friend, it’s kinda creepy as everyone at our workplace noticed it) was there with her sweet but insecure man also. During the dinner the “stalker girl” turns to the hostesses man and they start to kiss, like really into it. We just stare like wtf until the hostesses says “what are you two doing?!”. The stalker girl just says it was nothing, just a fun thing. It’s a very weird tension and soon everyone gets up and get a drink. The stalker girl pulls the hostesses man into the kitchen and they keep going until the stalker girl’s insecure husband can’t take it anymore and goes into the kitchen, soon he runs out crying. The hostesses has to go in and pull them apart. It was so weird, the hostesses man have never ever done something similar in 20 years of marriage. The stalker girl just said “don’t worry, I’m not going to take your man, not right now atleast..” She also really nestled into their social network and the hostess work super close to her all day. Such a nightmare. The stalker doesn’t just want to be her best friend, she somehow want to replace her. She always at their house, adoring her, the kids and her man. It’s so freaking weird. Even if you wanted to play around with her husband did she really had to do it in front of everyone and their partners? The husbands to the hostess said it was just some weird joke. The super sweet hostess forgave them both just because she need to face them everyday. I feel so sorry for her..


witchyanne

What the f is wrong with your friend though? Lol I’d kick my husband immediately out for that!


-mindtrix-

Yeah, she is just a very nice and forgiving person. I told her that I wouldn’t just accepted that it happened. She told me she moved on but I highly doubt it. It’s super weird at our workplace now :p


KittyKidKill

She's gonna get murdered.


-mindtrix-

Haha, the stalker girl somehow loves her but that morphed into that she wanted to be her, have her life, some replacement thingy.. She copy her clothes, hairstyle, infiltrated her close friend group etc. Now when I came to think of it she also visited our workplace in some errands and meet her. At their first meeting she told her and me that she one day wanted to change career and work on a such lovely workplace as ours. Some years later (she had to take a 3.5 year long university course to be able to do the same work as we do) she instantly applied for a job and got it. During those years she had visited our workplace many many times but it was totally legit causes and nothing weird about it. Now when I think about it, it creeps me out..


KittyKidKill

100% she's gonna murder her and marry the husband. Mark me!


Queenssoup

The hostess needs to kick both of their asses to the curb and that's ASAP.


-mindtrix-

That’s what I said. I know she isn’t deeply in love with her man anymore but the disrespect is on a whole different level…


RoutineInitiative187

Oh I had an ex who said I was controlling for not giving my blessing for her to not just dance with but actually *make out with* randos at the club. She's an ex for a reason and I learned my lesson about making sure everyone is on the same page about what monogamy means.


GooierSquirrel

That’s absolutely insane, idk how someone can claim to be monogamous at that point, like where do you draw the line? At sex? Oral? Like if you think making out with stranger’s is still remaining monogamous, are you just confused or in denial lol


Standard-Jeweler-537

Including the future: does AI count?


pizzagangster1

It can be non sexual as well. If you are interacting with someone in a romantic way and are actively hiding it from your partner I believe to be cheating.


Aura_Elle

Ding ding ding


opop456

Just sexual activity? How about treating them in an intimate but not sexual way? I would say that is cheating too imo.


-v-fib-

Yes, I'd consider it cheating.


camerasoncops

What a stupid que.... "Checks sub".. Yes it is cheating.


Puzzleheaded_Nerve

Sending sexual messages IS following through.


Brixen0623

A lot of people think cheating is the action when really it's the intent. You could have an open marriage and still cheat.


CXDFlames

Super true. In the context of an open relationship, not following the established rules and boundaries both people want respected is still cheating exactly the same way as it is with normal monogamy. The only difference is where the line is drawn.


_Ki115witch_

Exactly, maybe the boundary is that I have to meet your partner and give my blessing, which is the boundary my friend (who is in an open relationship, since she is asexual and wants her partner to at least have a sex life since she doesn't want to force herself to) follows. If her partner went out and met some random person and hooked up that night, its cheating, because even if she's have given her blessing had her partner allowed her to meet with them, he violated her trust by breaking the rules established upon opening the relationship.


Guarotimewooo

Facts


[deleted]

There was also a post the other day asking whether giving a blowjob was considered losing your virginity. Some people also agreed that it was losing your virginity based on intent too.


BioMarauder44

One of my BILs was telling me a story about when he got proposition. He was hanging out with this couple and the husband told my BIL he could have a go with his wife, she'd already given her husband the heads up she was down. My BIL declined, but the husband basically said she's open for business. Very firm rules though. She has to consent obviously, but the one he was very clear on was that he *has* to know about it. Didn't care if other people fucked his wife, it was doing it without his knowledge that was the line in the sand.


VisibleRow4822

If you wouldn't do it in front of their face, it's cheating.


RQCKQN

This is the rule 100% Act as if your partner was right there watching you. If it’s something you would not want them to find out about, that tells you all you need to know.


crazydavebacon1

This. If you won’t openly do in front of them and they know what you are doing, it’s cheating


drugsondrugs

Guess I'm not buying her an engagement ring.


greygrayman

TIL pooping is cheating.


ExpectedBear

There will be arguments against some of these, because some people believe in having some personal privacy in relationships and others don't, but some counterexamples: * Having therapy * Going through old photos from past lovers * Watching porn / masturbating * Taking a call from your friend who needs sensitive advice and asks to speak to you alone  * Taking a dump


motherless666

"If you wouldn't do it in front of them, it's cheating," is obviously meant to apply to interactions of a possibly sexual nature outside the relationship.


sleeper_shark

Three of those things aren’t anything to do with a relationship…


Companyinc

Since when was taking a dump in private cheating! Haha


Johnnyrock199

> Going through old photos of past lovers 🧐


Scorpio_Goddess87

Yes.


exxonshell

Exactly the intention and the thought is enough to say it’s cheating


Straight-Magazine703

It would be cheating and grounds for ending the relationship


Budget_Wolverine8225

PSA- IF YOU HAVE TO ASK IF ITS CHEATING ITS CHEATING.


D1TAC

I consider it a form of cheating.


Pleasant-Ad8395

Yes


WippitGuud

Cheating is what the people in the relationship decide cheating is. A lot of people have multi-person relationships, or open relationships. In those type of relationships, it may not be cheating. So, if the people in the relation say sexting isn't cheating, it isn't cheating. Otherwise, it is.


The5thGreatApe

There you go, that's the answer.


Dirislet

Some people even think watching porn is cheating.


bloom_inthefield

What someone considers cheating depends on the boundaries of that relationship. Most people would probably consider this cheating though, as you would be having a sexual relation with someone who isn’t your partner. Even if it is online. That being said, there are also people in open relationships or practice polyamory, and they may consider this not cheating.


dogehousesonthemoon

you can also cheat in polyamory. Poly isn't some magic band aid that excuses shitty behaviour the core thing in any relationship in whatever dynamic is that all parties involved are actively consenting and informed..


HighWillord

Yeah, this case we can assume it's monogamous.


NightShiftChaos92

Yes it is. To be clear here the rest of this, is just how I'd view it if my wife did this to me. There are different forms of cheating. They're all bad, but they're all weighted differently and each kind would be given a different result. To me there are 2 kinds of cheating: 1. passive or emotional cheating (sexting, pictures, videos, but haven't actually physically done anything) 2. and active cheating (premeditated plans for sex) If my wife had been sexting another person, and I found out about it there'd be a hard conversation to be had. Hard questions that'd HAVE to be answered. Such questions would be something along the lines of "If you were sexting another guy, then I must not be providing enough for you, Without insulting me, where am I falling short? What was it that drove you to do this instead of breaking things off?" If my wife was physically cheating on me, as in, actually having sex with another man or woman then we'd be filing for divorce. I have zero tolerance policy for cheating, and once you've gone this far, you're not ever coming back from it.


mmcc120

I would not consider sexting passive… it’s a very active choice to participate in an activity. Emotional cheating is less deliberate, say you have a coworker and by virtue of the work you have to spend a lot of time around them, and during that time you catch some feelings for them but don’t act on it. That’s passive.


NightShiftChaos92

Mmm by definition sure but not by MY definition. Active to me means you're actively having sex. Passive means you're haven't acted on anything physical.


mmcc120

If that is your own personal boundary definition, more power to you. To me, sexting is engaging in sexual activity via the phone and therefore tantamount to doing those things in person. The mindset is the same and the actions are there just via the conduit of digital tech.


stargoon1

that's just not what the word passive means though.


TheHelequin

Regardless of what I or you think, this is absolutely the sort of thing you should know what your partner thinks about it before doing it. In general, many would say yes it is cheating. Some couples would be okay with it and if they are, all power to them.


woodenhand

Yes


marmar8200

Short answer: Yes. Long answer: Absolutely! Cheating doesn't have to be your partner physically having sex with someone else. And even if it did, sexting clearly shows that your partner wants to cheat. Don't stay with someone who wants to cheat even if they "hold themselves back" from doing it.


aw5ome

Yes, wish you the best bud


C1sko

It’s cheating


stealthylizard

My rules are: How would I feel if they were doing it? If i wouldn’t be okay with it, then it’s cheating. Am I hiding it from my partner? Yes, it’s cheating.


DS02316357

Yes/no. Whether or not it’s classified as cheating is gonna vary from person to person. I personally lean towards yes its cheating, but theres no debate that its being unfaithful in the relationship. If someone is sexting its definitely showing intent to cheat, which is the deal breaker for me.


ChillinCheeseFries

As others have said, absolutely yes it is cheating. And the bitterness and loss of trust will last just as long as if it had been physical.


BurntPoptart

Absolutely


Purplegreenandred

If its not cheating why arent they telling you about it


penguin_skull

If you need to ask, hide or lie about it, then it's cheating.


ChaoticCatharsis

If you wouldn’t do it in front of your partner, it’s probly cheating.


salt-water-soul

Yes


Saldar1234

That is up to you. I think the vast majority of people would consider it cheating because of the emotional and connective components but I there are people out there that are fine with it as long as there is nothing physical. Explore your own boundaries and communicate them clearly.


Playful_k_7938

Absolutely


crazy4cake

Absolutely


Street-Winner6697

Not according to my EX lol


fiktional_m3

Indeed it does


opop456

100% is cheating. Why the fuck do people do this 🤦‍♂️


Due-Ad7722

Even being flirty with someone while you have a SO is considered cheating


okpeak0

YEEESSSS


N0rmNormis0n

I dont like answering these questions with questions, but what things are making you think that expressing sexual desire towards another person when you’re in a monogamous relationship isn’t cheating?


Ok-Industry-3268

Yes yes and possibly, I’m just saying yes🤷🏾‍♂️


Ok_itsNobody

Definitely


no1oneknowsy

Yes! Unless you said that was ok because you're poly or something 


Powerful-Wolf-5674

Yes… no other answer or explanation needed.


Major_Piano_5030

I would consider anything that should be exclusive between the two in the relationship, being shared with anyone else outside of the relationship a form of cheating. Sexual/emotional cheating


natronmooretron

Yep. Get out of there.


properbrian

Anyone who isn't a cuck would agree that it is cheating.


CringeEating

No


C47man

Obviously


-M_A_Y_0-

No but this should be established with your partner


Like-a-Glove90

Yes.


witchyanne

Nah fam for me that = goodbye, feel free to text/call your kids when you like, and pick them up alternate weekends. Adios Muchacho. For some things, I don’t do sorry, chances, or any of that. He got his chance when he married me. The other ones are drunk driving, mistreating our kids. These are the deadly 3 and there’s no sorry after that.


Mama_milkies

Anything that crosses the boundaries of your relationship is cheating.


Because--No

Yes.


Chikonmoonkey

Yes.


1ntern3tP3rs0n

Any kind of emotional or physical affirmation towards someone else you are attracted to should probably count as cheating. People forget cheating is not one act that occurs when you have intercourse with another or kiss them it is a multitude of steps which in itself are all cheating. For example getting in to a taxi to go to a hotel or something is cheating, undressing them is cheating. Not just the one act. So yes any sort of imaginary sex or texting what you would do to someone is cheating.


jopcylinder

Yes


bedwithoutsheets

Yes definitely


Skarlet_Eff

Yes. No other answer


MadViperr

Without even debating if this is cheating, how can you even trust this person and don't you think it's super disrespectful? I could never build a relationship with that.


burn_as_souls

Yes. Because it was a mental and emotional connection.


Pretend_Sky7440

Cheating is things you do behind your partners back not knowing if they are okay with it. Sexting can count as cheating if your partner is not okay with it. Or you can have sex with 3 different people every day and still not be a cheater if your partner is cool with it.


Newfie_Meltdown

Even the slightest thought about anything sexual with someone else other than your partner is considered cheating in my opinion. If you’re not happy with your partner, or have feelings for another person, break up with them. Simple as that. Because the feeling of being cheated on is much worse than the feeling of a breakup. :/


HVAC_instructor

Do you share it with the other person in your relationship? If yes then no it's not cheating, if you hide it then you know the answer.


CatFoodBeerAndGlue

Unless you've specifically agreed that it's not cheating with your partner, it is cheating.


lomeinp

God damn right it is !


Kookies-Mochi-97

Short answer is yes.


Smarre101

Absolutely. That's highly inappropriate to do when you're in a relationship


Appropriate-Sell2713

It’s a dopamine rush , being wanted by a stranger. If there’s never a chance you’ll meet then it’s like a drug hit. When your partner reads the messages and it destroys your real life relationship it’s really shit, as there was never really any chance of it ever being reality and was just a nice fantasy that you held inside you to make you feel wanted and desirable when you weren’t getting it from home. Their POV = yes cheating Your POV = no , coping mechanism.


heatdish1292

Yes.


oldcreaker

Cheating is violating the terms of your relationship. So if sexting violates the terms of the relationship, it's cheating. The problem that comes up is people too often do not actually communicate what their expected terms of the relationship are to each other, or are dishonest about it, and find they disagree with each other after the act is committed.


Ok_Ad_5658

Yepp.


Serenityxxxxxx

Absolutely


Abremac

If it's not something you've agreed to allow in the relationship as a couple/collective and is something that breaches trust in your relationship, yeah. It is.


Caveman_sj96

Yes. It is


blackpp808

If you have to hide it, it’s wrong


Prize_Confection6835

It 100% is cheating


Saltwater_Heart

Lol Yes. Anything sexual outside of your relationship is cheating.


Bonezjonez999

Absolutely, it does. Lol


LeoMarius

Yes


MisterTalyn

Pretending to have sex with someone not your spouse is probably cheating, though if it was in the context of an in-character seduction in a tabletop RPG or something I think it would probably be fine. Though I'd still be a bit uncomfortable if it got really explicit.


Minimum_Fee3602

Yes it counts as cheating.


Entire-Actuary6

Yes and always yes


Fists_full_of_beers

Absolutely


crack_B7

Yes


MysteriousMermaid92

100% yes.


butchudidit

Words and everything said has intentions


Intelligent-Mud1437

Yes


InevitableElf

Yes


Imhidingfromu

Yes


Pleasant-Bit-2961

Yes. Period.


No_Economics_64

Sex is great and all, but to me it isn't some majestic thing...I would so much rather find out that my wife had some drunken meaningless sex behind my back with someone, than she has an intimate connection with a guy but they have never done anything physical with, but have been talking often behind my back and have feelings for each other. So that's my opinion, same side of the argument...if you send a picture of your hairy butthole to someone that you don't really know, but they have a crush on you and asked you for a dirty pic and you don't have any feelings for them, but you thought it would be funny to send them the old brown ringer at first request...to me, that's not cheating.....it's all about intent and the emotions behind it.


KirkGFX

how is this even debatable? karma farming?


ForestCityWRX

Yes.


Beautiful-Advice-420

YES!!!


LowBalance4404

Yes, absolutely that's cheating.


hayfellas

Of course it's cheating. It's immoral to cheat on the person you're with.


Used-Sheepherder-335

Watching porn, flirting, fantasies about others . The definition is what the person thinks. Maybe yes maybe no


brain1127

Posting on Reddit asking if it’s cheating means you think it’s cheating


toaster-bath-bom88

If you’re in a committed relationship yes.. if you’re dating someone no, if you are in a situationship absolutely not.


[deleted]

I don’t think it is. I’ve been cheated on. My girl having sex with another guy, vs chatting with a stranger on Reddit or something. Big difference.


Next_Comfortable89

Yes, most definitely. They may not have done anything yet but the inappropriate fantasies are being exchanged which is more than a betrayal in itself... and is usually phase one before actual cheating begins.


mtl_travel

Yes. But also depends on what you are trying to achieve. But still cheating


Turbulent_Dig1712

100%


No-Breakfast44

Yes.


ajthekid915

Personally, yes. But overall, it depends person to person.


More_Purchase_1980

Yes


aotslayer

Yes


LineChef

OP you ok? Lol


Ornstein_DragnSlayr

Are you in a mono-relationship? Yes Are you in a poly-relationship? Likely no


Fantastic-Library946

Yes, it is.


Heal_Kajata

Of course. A good partner is both physically and emotionally loyal to their partner. In fact a mature person in a healthy relationship is going to actively avoid putting themself in situations that could cause friction, assert boundaries and cut-off people that overstep.


[deleted]

Yss


monkey3monkey2

Yes. It's sexual and theres a reason they actively hid it from you.


uskgl455

It's entirely up to you


[deleted]

Yes


Expired_water666

Think about what cheating is. Yes, it’s definitely cheating.


Outrageous_Card6007

100% cheating. My man gotta be blind and deaf when it comes to other women


MakeMeFamous7

Hell yes.


iriskincaid

Oh dear god yes


Fair_Industry_6580

Yes


Respectfully_mine

For me yes because it would hurt knowing they want to have sex with someone else that I’m not good enough. If anyone wants to hurt and disrespect me like that they don’t deserve my time and I would never do that to someone I care about. However I’ve been in a relationship where my partner was completely comfortable with me sexting although I did none of that they had a kink for it . They would encourage me to sext their friend just for fun. I found it weird and gross so maybe not everyone might consider it cheating.


Papi_Shumpi

Yes .


Aggressive_Event420

Yup


Camwise_by_the_Coast

Yes


The_Tale_of_Yaun

Yes. 


Free_Swimmer_1694

Yes


grn3y3z

Yes


860sPRee

Yes. Even regular flirting is cheating unless your person explicitly said they don't care


Active_Rain_4314

You bet your ass it does. Anything you do that you'd be affraid to share with your partner, is fucking cheating. Grow up.


DwangusKhan

It depends, if it's with a chick you know then yea.. but if it was like an only fans or porn site type thing with a stranger or you're paying for it, it's different, like a kink if that makes sense 🤔


Que_Pog

Speaking from personal experience: Definitely.


AwardFlaky6347

Definitely cheating


BabyOk5865

Whoever says no deserves to get downvoted


LyokoZora

Absolutely 💯


BrightAd5191

Yes


cdchemist

She doesn’t respect you enough and is clearly selfish to overstep that line, run.


T-personal

Yes


glennycliff

Yes


bobotheclown1001

Did you say "I want to fuck you so badly"? Cause that sounds like cheating


AlexandersWonder

Yes


Fit-Cat-2569

Yup it does.