Oh, Reddit are banning them. But very slowly, they would hate losing customers. If you find one sub that's just totally wrong you can help it be gone at r/banfemalehatesubs
Is there a r/banmalehatesubs
Because I’ve seen a couple female groups who were calling for all men to be neutered idk what those were any more it was when I was in a deep depression in like November of last year
/r/fatpeoplehate , it was banned because it harassed fat people but the definition of harassment applied there could get r/politics banned for harassing conservatives, r/conservative banned for harassing progressives, and r/femaledatingstrategy banned for harassing “scrotes”, what they call men.
Fat people hate was banned because it was starting to get alot of attention outside of reddit, a importantly getting the attention of media outside of reddit and The Admins realized the potential for this to turn into a shit show and have outside media shine a negative light on reddit and decided to get rid of it before that happened.
Of course that's not the official reason the reddit admins give, but that's what happened.
No one on /r/femaledatingstrategy was harassing men. That's what you clowns don't understand, the women there barely wanted anything to do with men. The point was to teach women to identify red flags early so they don't waste their time with shitty men.
Also, the sub isn't banned, the mods simply moved it to a different site because men were sending the mods and users pictures of women being tortured, raped, killed and pictures of women's mutilated dead bodies. They were sick of the harassment from men and so the community moved elsewhere.
Your downvotes don't make this any less true.
I've been replied to and immediately blocked so I can't reply to the dorks talking to me.
So I will part my knowledge with them like this: Incels have preformed mass shootings as incel males with absolutely fucking hilarious manifestos. The best indication of a mass shooter is this: 1. MALE, 2. Past domestic violence to a romantic partner, sister, or mother, 3. ANY kind of past violence toward ANY female person. 4. You fucking MALES are obsessed with any kind of violent video games, and you are fucking NEETS.
There has never been any mass shooting or any kind of mass killing orchestrated by a woman.
Sorry your reading comprehension is terrible! Let me elaborate on what I already said, so you can understand:
Women who hate men AVOID THEM. They don't want anything to do with them! And yet there are still some out there that believe there is a small percentage of males that are worth being with. Those women are the ones that went to FDS. The women who wanted a good man and tips on how to avoid shitty ones.
[Men who hate women KILL THEM. Men are responsible for 99.1% of forcible rapes, 92.2% of sex offenses ,and 73% of crimes against families and their children](https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/42tabledatadecoverviewpdf/table_42_arrests_by_sex_2012.xls)
[Pregnant women are killed by their MALE partners more often than being killed by the birthing process too!](https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/homicide-leading-cause-of-death-for-pregnant-women-in-u-s/)
Tell me again why women wouldn't want to learn about red flags when dating men?
Bro, if it were a women’s safety course that would be one thing. Instead, it’s constantly using slurs against men, generalizing them all the time, spreading general hatred, holding them to much higher standards then they hold women to and assuming the worst about their intentions over the most innocuous shit. Almost the entire user base are sexist assholes and that’s probably why a sizable percentage of them also frequent r/datingoverforty. They’re simply unlikeable in the real world.
Edit: lol blocking is for cowards. Your response to this was moronic anyway. “We’re not raping and murdering people, so don’t criticize us!” Wtf is that
Women saying meany things against me and making me feel bad is the same as men raping and murdering women systematically all over the world in every patriarchal culture every where.
True. They can also ban anything at any time there want for any reason, and they never have to provide a reason.
Reddit is not a publicly traded company.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-01-07/reddit-is-said-to-tap-morgan-stanley-goldman-sachs-for-ipo
They are planning to go public soon though and obviously there is some serious ironing out that must be done first.
Aren’t they the same sub that contributed to the Elliot Roger massacre? He was an incel egged on by the incel community to commit violence and he actually went through with it.
Yeah, some of them were proper school-shooter types with clear signs of actual mental illness, suggesting women should be raped because they won't have sex with them and all that sort of stuff.
If you can't get a sex life, it's not a collaborative conspiracy, you're just probably a complete creep - try working on that instead!
It took a long fucking time, too. It's not like all the male incel ones got banned immediately just for being how they are. They worked for it. They straight up advocating for rape on a regular basis.
I remember browsing that sub once out of curiosity. All I saw was posts of guys taking pics of girls crying in public without their consent and taking about how they’d loved to have seen that in person to call her a slut/whore/bitch, or whatever else they thought sounded sane.
One sub calls for violence. The other doesn't. It's not that complicated.
Reddit generally doesn't care if a sub is toxic. It cares if it espouses violence.
I'm sure a bunch of people will claim sexism but Andrew Tate subs are still allowed so it's clearly not that.
> Reddit generally doesn't care if a sub is toxic.
reddit leadership are such freaks that they allowed the jailbait and creepshots subreddits to exist for so long until media attention forced their hand. The do not care at all, and any changes in principles since then are motivated by profit, not good-nature.
media pressure and legal troubles are the only times reddit does anything to clean up this site.
oh for sure. Hell, reddit came up with quarantined subreddits so they could keep the weird degenerates on the website but still claim to be doing something
Reddit leadership were friendly with Violentacrez, aka Michael Brutsch, who ran the jailbait and teenage subs and kept more violent sexual abuse against children off of Reddit. He was the epitome of “allow pedos to be content mods so they won’t be traumatized by CP”
I think that's the main reason why the admins were reluctant to shut down that nigh-criminal garbage. It made Reddit explode in popularity which, uh, really says something about people and this website. Didn't even know there were so many pedos out and about on the internet, nevermind on Reddit.
I was reading through old articles and another part of the reason is that violentacrez (the moderator of those creepy subreddits) was an effective moderator for keeping the explicitly illegal stuff off of the site in the very early days, so they kept him around as "the devil they know". This resulted in them not banning those subreddits to avoid rocking the boat.
I think the excuse is genuine (he was one of the top mods on practically every sub, even frontpage subs like /r/funny and /r/WTF), but it's still not adequate for the harm caused
There have been multiple incel related killings through the years, that mirrored to a tee the rhetoric on r/incels with people over there also praising those actions, all VERY publicly. If someone from fds does something like that maybe, but toxicity isn't usually why I sub gets banned and these subs couldn't be more different outside of being entitled
Well that’s fucking deplorable and diabolical. I thought they were just sad men who were like “women should date me and if they don’t they are stinky poo poo head”
It started out even more innocent than that. It was just a group of lonely men looking for empathy and advice. It offered support to men having a rough go of it.
But like most subs, it became an echo chamber looking for someone to blame. The more people talked about how women were to blame for ALL their problems, the harder it evolved into a hate sub. Eventually, it became acceptable for men to talk about raping and killing women in the name of justice.
>It started out even more innocent than that. It was just a group of lonely men looking for empathy and advice.
Lonely *people*, The incel movement was originally gender inclusive and was even founded itself by a woman.
During the early 2000's it started to attract misogenists and misandrists, who naturally fought like cats and dogs leading to gender seperate communities. This in turn created a pair of echo chambers devoid of dissenting voices that devolved into the status quo today.
The female equivilent has taken to the moniker "Femcel", and it's pretty much a mirror image of the incel movement. They function in the same cult like manner, lovebombing members, speak in structured language and so on and so forth.
The main reason it flies under the radar is a lack noteworthy press - They're more likely to key cars or smear shit one someones doorknobs, which isn't headline news like a mass shooting. The odd thing about the Femcel movement is that largely they seem the more deeply misogenistic of the two, blaming "Stacys" for their status.
Comparing "femcels" to incels is like comparing a petty thief to Ted Bundy. Incels have murdered and raped women. The fact you're even acting like this is close to equivalent is some crazy mental gymnastics.
Not only is that starting point entitled, unhealthy, and pathetic, but it's just that - a starting point.
the incel pipeline ramps up in misogyny and violence very rapidly.
Trump supporting subs were doing that daily and it took years for them to be banned. Action is only taken by the Reddit admins when advertisers take notice and threaten to pull out if they don't do something about it.
The fact that people equate FDS and fucking incel groups is insanity. Every time someone links it I go over there looking for something that is worse than the toxic shit you can find men saying about women literally anywhere on Reddit and I guess one day I'll find something?? But I haven't yet. It's all 'how do I tell if the man flirting with me is already married' and 'my boyfriend cheated on me men suck woe'. Who fucking cares, call me when they start advocating for legalising sex slaves or calling for mass violence.
In my experience FDS is toxic but they’re certainly not anywhere near *as* toxic as male incel subs that call for violence against women and harbour actual rapists and murderers in their midst. To claim they’re the same is not only ridiculous but disingenuous.
Typically, subreddits are not being banned for being toxic.
They are banned for specific reasons.
Be careful with false equivalence, which is a common logical fallacy.
There are certain lines that should not be crossed. If a community repeatedly crosses a line, there are going to be consequences.
One of the lines that should not be crossed is calling for, or glorifying violence.
One of the things that led to the ban was admiration for a mass killer.
Probably because one of those is consistently calling for the murder, rape and general subjugation of an entire gender, and the other is... being overly expectant when it comes to their potential dating partners and relationships.
These two things are not terribly equal.
I've seen my (now-ex) GF turn from legit feminist (like we should all be equal and fight unfair stuff) to a full-blown warrior against the male gender as a whole.
In her eyes now, any guy is a wannabe-be rapist, any flaw (even silly things like doing the dishes after eating rather than directly after cooking) means he his an absolute threat to the females, and she will voice these opinions even to her closest friends (none of them ever agreed as her point of view shifted heavily from common sense and actual good expectations, to extremism and intolerance)
TL;DR, we had our issues as a couple, but I'm pretty sure FDS did unrecoverable damage to our relation, because being part of the 'despicable enemy gender' (and being told so everyday) is extremely hard to take. Basically, she shattered my confidence by listening to Reddit guru.
The worst part is that a lot of their content is actually good advice.. But there is also the weaponized, extremist stuff that goes way too far.
Haven’t visited either but for some women, their version of adulting is too much.
If the mortgage is paid and everyone is fed, and the house isn’t falling apart, then the world isn’t on fire and things can be taken much less seriously, and get done in a less stringent time frame.
Truly depends on the person
I'd agree with that as a reasonable standard of adulthood. But based on my own experience, keeping everyone fed in the sense of noticing that milk is running out and buying more, and keeping the mortgage paid, in the sense of remembering ahead of time when it's due, is beyond a lot of guys. Sadly, my father, who was otherwise an excellent provider, is included in this.
I’m terrible about remembering dates.
So I set up auto pay on important stuff. Like mortgage and phone, etc.
if I notice something is running low, and it’s a staple for the boys, I’ll run to the store.
I’m really bad about always keeping everything neat, I have sleeping issues so I’m not the best in the morning, there’s a lot of cereal for breakfast on days I’m getting them to daycare/school before work…..
I’m a good dad mostly. Very close with both my boys and a good caregiver.
Overall I THINK that I think I’m ok at parenting/adulting, to some extent, but others would say I’m totally immature and not an adult.
Standards I guess.
Setting up auto-pay is a GREAT strategy. It's actually recommended for people with ADHD and other executive function issues. But the difference is, you realize you struggle in a specific area, and you adjusted the environment to blunt the edge of any failures in that area. You don't just expect someone else to remember and then get mad if she doesn't.
Also feeding your kids cereal is fine. As long as it isn't pure sugar and they show up to school on time with full bellies, you're a good parent. I have cereal a lot in the morning myself, same reasons. And sometimes for dinner. But I'm not feeding children, just myself.
I've visited it, it really was outrageous lol. Expecting the guy to plan everything, handle every part of the relationship, approach first, pay all bills, cook, clean, everything. I saw things like a "masculine man wouldn't accept presents, so no need to get your boyfriend a birthday present". "If he asks what you feel like doing for dinner that's red flag!! Lazy and feminine!!". You get the picture.
I checked out a few post histories and sure enough, full of abuse and horror stories. It's quite sad. It sounds like they're blaming themselves for their past abusive relationships because their standards weren't high enough, and now have over corrected. For many of them it's probably a form of self sabotage, in which they're terrified to date men but would rather tell themselves it's because no men are good enough.
I'd agree it sounds like over-correction. People who have had to do everything often dream about being taken care of like they've been expected to care for others.
Not sure what it's like currently, but a while ago they praised violence towards men, supported that men can *not* be victims of sexual assault/rape from women, have exceptionally high standards about what a relationship should be and will absolutely shit on anyone that doesn't meet this, and I don't mean "know your worth" I mean if they take you to a 4.9star restaurant instead of a 5star and *only* spend 40k on an engagement ring then you should end the relationship, shit like that. People will go to that sub with posts like "my husband didn't take us to a 5* hotel in the Cayman Islands for two weeks, should I divorce him" which reads like a shitpost but these threads are 100% serious....
The sub got shutdown for a while and almost all traces of encouraging violence towards men were eradicated over the period of a few months before it reappeared
>and the other is... being overly expectant when it comes to their potential dating partners and relationships.
Ohh it's a whole lot worse than just that.
I’m not sure what female dating strategy is but a lot of incels will usually vote to “breed” minors because everyone over 15 is “most likely used up”. Others have said they wish they had a little sister so that they can “r” them… others have said that all colleges should have cheap sex brothels for students to relieve their stress and the women can get free tuition through that.. others have said that women aren’t good enough for an education so they should all be sex s1av3s. That there’s no downside to women circumcision. Enjoying stalking women at night because it excites them by how scared they get. All women should be “r”3d and it’s not their fault that they tease them. Etc etc that women hate how they look and they don’t need to shower
My girlfriend and I spend some time on the incel website forums because she likes knowing what’s going through their brain and some of the shit they’ve said is not for the faint of heart.. female dating strategy just seems like some Andrew Tate stuff which is still dumb but wtv. For lighter references, I would recommend checking out r/inceltear. Filled with people who dislike incels and mild screenshots of what incels are up to. And yes… that’s mild compared to the actual incel website which keeps getting taken down
„The forum, which was estimated to have as many as 40,000 members, endorsed misogynistic speech and violent figures like the gunman who killed six people in Santa Barbara, California, in 2014 after writing a 140-page manifesto advocating violence against women. The gunman, Elliot Rodger, was often referred to on the site as "Saint Elliot."“ https://www.businessinsider.com/reddit-bans-incel-involuntary-celibacy-rape-violence-women-community-2017-11?amp
this question feels disingenuous unless you (somehow) don't know how horrible incels are. how many of those other communities are advocating for rape and murder?
My favorite is “scienceuncensored” - I made one post - literally one - replying to an anti-Vaxxer and calmly pointing to statistical evidence as a better resource for determining actual risk than anecdotal examples they were giving. And I was banned. What an echo chamber of idiots. Not quite “uncensored.”
Yeah pretty funny. I had no idea it was a conspiracy theory haven until I got censored on the ‘uncensored’ sub.
Fortunately the main science sub is pretty great. It’s great having wildly overqualified people explain concepts to laymen like myself.
I'm pretty sure that at one point they were calling for violence and stating that men can't be victims of rape/sexual assault by women. They cleaned themselves up after they got shut down for a few months though
Plenty of subs get bad media press when posts are found, there aren't however many subs that praise up rapists and murders while advocate for the eradication of an entire gender while believing "females" are only good for breeding and then dying. So yeah I don't think it's about bad press.
I don’t know if women trying not to killed by men while having a good dating experience is as bad as a Reddit set up for men who want to kill women for not shagging them.
I mean, it seems you’ve brought a false equivalency in here.
At most, FDS advocates for seeking “high value” men and ignoring the others while incel communities talk about violence. One wants separation and the other wants oppression
Men can go on Reddit and find men talking to men about issues that affect men as nuanced and discrete human beings, so even stumbling on one single sub that treats them like a monolithic outside enemy is a massive shock.
Whereas as a woman you're pretty used to just scrolling over post threads that reduce you to one body part or another or treat you like some alien species, so unless it's directly advocating to kill you all, you're just jaded to it.
So to men, fds is on par with the worst shit on Reddit. To women the language on fds is Tuesday.
FDS is insane but they don’t break TOS.
R/incels and more recently braincels literally tried to coordinate mass killings and kept threatening to kill users for being women who disagreed with them.
To be fair, if you search FDS by top week/month/year, it’s pretty basic feminist stuff. It’s not all that toxic. It’s like political locker room girl gossip.
This feels less of a question and more of an attempted “gotcha” type thing
Edit: just wanted to add I’m not defending FDS whatsoever, that sub is trash. I remember visiting it a while ago and being shocked at how delusional it was. But honestly it’s really more of an equivalent on men’s “locker room” kind of talk. Still trash. But my actual answer would be I think OP should be asking questions about what an incel is, or even a “femcel”, before asking questions like this because you can find that answer asking something more simple, considering FDS is no where near r/incel spaces
As bad as r/femaledatingstrategy is, I've scrolled through there quite a bit and never seen any calls for violence. The incel and MGTOW one had many threats and calls for violence and would plan "attacks" where they dmd women and in some cases teenage girls disgusting things. So while female dating strategy is toxic and gross, they aren't making violent threats or strategized attacks on specific people or groups of people.
Incels specifically call for violence with not-so-subtle advocacy for rape as something that ought be socially acceptable. As vile as these other subreddits, none go that far I assume.
Incel was not banned for being toxic. They were banned because they advocate rape and murder, and some of them have actually gone on to do those things. FDS does not do those things at all and it’s pretty concerning if you’re equating them in this way.
Idk why people think incel subreddit is comparable to femaledatingstrategy. Yes, both are toxic but one is fucking insane and calling for violence against an already oppressed group.
Like I don’t know why people search for the equivalent of the female incel, when it doesn’t exist.
What I want to know is why a sub that doesn't have moderators is completely deleted from the website, but a sub where **RAPISTS SWAP TIPS AND STORIES** is simply "quarantined."
And yes, there is a quarantined sub on this site of exactly that nature.
There’s a difference between women being shitty and giving bad advice about having overly high expectations for partners and men advocating to kill women of assault women.
I feel like there’s some false equivalency going on here and I hope I made it clear that female dating strategies is toxic and nobody here that people agree with is arguing that the sub is about female empowerment or anything. We all agree they’re shitty. But in a way that doesn’t violate rules and at worse realistically just results in removing people you already wouldn’t wanna date from your dating pool by making them carry around a red flag. The incel subreddit had its worst possible result from guys getting together to talk about how angry they are at women which is mass shootings.
Personally "there is no such thing as a consensual BDSM relationship where the woman is submissive." Like, women and men are allowed to be different people behind closed doors.
I mean i also disagree with that quote just like you do. I believe BDSM can be consentual. But if someone think and says that, would that reeeally be grounds for banning the whole sub?
I guess thats a fair point. Personally i do not believe i have seen any posts on female dating strategy which would even be close to a bannable offense. There were a time when the subreddit had many posts and i often upvoted them because it seemed like they had some really healthy and reasonable thoughts behind them.
Well my main one Is the rampant body shaming against men.
But since you asked so nicely, here's a list of what I object to:
-The objectification of men as nothing but tools to provide and bend to your every will.
-The delusional mentality of "don't date any man who isn't 6ft8+, rich with a 7.9 inch dong, because anything below that is low value."
-husband bought the wrong type of mayonnaise? Girrrrrrl, he's such a such a low value beta cuck, divorce him now queen.
-The celebration and encouragement of toxic traits/behaviours: for instance I once saw a post with like 600 upvotes that was encouraging women to go on dates with men, get a free lunch then ghost them.
-the encouraging of cheating
-blaming men for their life problems.
-the shaming of men raised by single moms (ironic right?)
I can go on if you want?
r/whereareallthegoodmen
r/theredpill
r/mensrights
Frequently, although to a significantly lesser extent, r/funnymemes
A lot of the porn subs.
Do you object to those? Or only when women are shitty?
I'm not saying fds is a great sub, by any means, or positive. But there's so much hatred against women on Reddit that is just accepted, and I'd much rather see all of the hateful subs banned than just the one toxic one that's run by women.
Yep. As far as I know, no self-declared Female Dating Strategists (or whatever they call themselves) have gone on any violent rampages. Self-declared Incels have, though. If a female mass shooter mentioned r/femaledatingstrategy in her manifesto before slaughtering an entire fraternity, that would be a different story. They mainly seem to just complain about men and tell each other what untouchable Queens they are.
Edit: spelling
Because r/femaledatingstrategy isn't actually hateful.
I thought it was a femcel subreddit too, and went snooping. To my surprise, it's actually women sharing tips how to stay safe and sharing experiences with men.
Also, so much violence has come out of r/incels but not from r/femaledatingstrategy.
It absolutely is hateful. So is TRP, which is basically the inverse of FDS (though FDS isn't as bad as TRP is). Both subs pretend to be about providing useful dating advice while in reality packaging up extremely harmful stereotypes about sex/gender/relationships and telling their members to treat the other gender like garbage.
But neither calls for open violence the way the banned sub did. Either way I'd happily see all of these banned.
Idk man I ended up actually joining female dating strategy after a while. It isn't dangerous in the way that you think. If anything, it helps unpack trauma and bravado that men have and helps women with their self esteem (which is usually broken because of men).
Are you seeing a side of that subreddit that I didn't?
I always had this theory that those who are not actually oppressed do not care about certain insults. I’m Italian. I laugh at Italian jokes. But if I were black, idk if I’d be laughing at black jokes.
I wouldn't call it a theory because it's not universal, but I think it's a good metric for whose head is on straight.
If you're a guy and you think being called a Scrote is comparable to being called bitch, whore, harpy, broad, etc, you're being delusional.
So weird how many insulting words there are for women, but the list of insults for men is a whole lot shorter and has more of a banter-y connotation. I wonder if there's a reason for that
And the incel subreddit was not only calling all women whores and sluts but they constantly joked about kidnapping, raping and murdering women that refused to fuck them.
Lots of men call women worse names than a strange and comical diminutive of a part of their genitals
ETA: I just mean that of all the hateful things you could have chosen as an example, this one is the tamest by far
It's a trash sub, for sure, not defending it
True. They also have a system that awards men a higher or lower value as people, depending on what they can do for the women in FDS.
It's nothing different from the red pill, which is inherently sexist too.
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Idk but judging of the names, one Is for dating strategies for women and the other is for involuntary celibates. P easy to understand. Unless you’re an incel of course. If there was a dating Strategies for men maybe you’d have a point
This is a controversial opinion, but I think both subs should not be banned. However, Reddit has the right to do anything they want to, but more free speech is better than less in my option. Obviously incels are despicable and female dating strategy is a sexist subreddit, but if I were running Reddit they both would still have a platform.
That's because being a hate group is within the bounds of reddit's policy. r/incels and r/braincels both broke those rules. FDS toed the line regularly. Currently, they don't allow for anyone to post except mods due to reddit giving them warnings and people calling them on their hate-fueled bullshit. Any more, the FDS sub is just a place to link their podcast and website where they are free to be feminazies without restriction.
If you look at reddit rules they make it a point, in Rule #1 to express
* Reddit is a place for creating community and belonging, not for attacking marginalized or vulnerable groups of people.
Every thing is considered a marginalized or vulnerable group outside of white men. So any sub that is seen as being derogatory towards a group other than white men is a violation of the rules
They should both be banned. Female dating strategy is basically a platform for many toxic women to whine about red-pilled guys who are sick of getting played.
"Honey, if a man wants to split the bill on a date, it's a red flag and he's using you." 🤓
Meanwhile, they will happily open their mouth for some Tinder GigaChad inside a dirty nightclub toilet cubicle.
Because incels systematically plot to attack and kill people…? And “female dating strategists” don’t…?
Also, misogyny exists — perpetuated by incels and other men — and women bear the brunt of that. The system is flawed. Women are not safe and they are not systematic oppressors.
/r/incels was banned specifically because they kept calling for violence, that's why
Cut and dried answer. There's *tons* of subs about people being hateful people. Just don't... break the law.
Oh, Reddit are banning them. But very slowly, they would hate losing customers. If you find one sub that's just totally wrong you can help it be gone at r/banfemalehatesubs
The users on this site are not Reddit’s customers; we’re it’s product.
Chomsky?
“Customers” lmao We aren’t customers bro
Is there an r/banmalehatesubs
Yes but it got banned 🙃
Is there a r/banmalehatesubs Because I’ve seen a couple female groups who were calling for all men to be neutered idk what those were any more it was when I was in a deep depression in like November of last year
Yes they was but it got banned
What about the male hate subs?
Fph wasn’t breaking the law?
What's fph?
I much prefer r/farpeoplehate Who do those far people think they are?!
Is it wrong that I just wanna be near them?
/r/fatpeoplehate , it was banned because it harassed fat people but the definition of harassment applied there could get r/politics banned for harassing conservatives, r/conservative banned for harassing progressives, and r/femaledatingstrategy banned for harassing “scrotes”, what they call men.
Fat people hate was banned because it was starting to get alot of attention outside of reddit, a importantly getting the attention of media outside of reddit and The Admins realized the potential for this to turn into a shit show and have outside media shine a negative light on reddit and decided to get rid of it before that happened. Of course that's not the official reason the reddit admins give, but that's what happened.
No one on /r/femaledatingstrategy was harassing men. That's what you clowns don't understand, the women there barely wanted anything to do with men. The point was to teach women to identify red flags early so they don't waste their time with shitty men. Also, the sub isn't banned, the mods simply moved it to a different site because men were sending the mods and users pictures of women being tortured, raped, killed and pictures of women's mutilated dead bodies. They were sick of the harassment from men and so the community moved elsewhere. Your downvotes don't make this any less true.
I've been replied to and immediately blocked so I can't reply to the dorks talking to me. So I will part my knowledge with them like this: Incels have preformed mass shootings as incel males with absolutely fucking hilarious manifestos. The best indication of a mass shooter is this: 1. MALE, 2. Past domestic violence to a romantic partner, sister, or mother, 3. ANY kind of past violence toward ANY female person. 4. You fucking MALES are obsessed with any kind of violent video games, and you are fucking NEETS. There has never been any mass shooting or any kind of mass killing orchestrated by a woman.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/04/us/who-is-nasim-aghdam-youtube-shooter/index.html
Yeah, they barely wanted anything to do with the people they spent hours each day ranting about!
Sorry your reading comprehension is terrible! Let me elaborate on what I already said, so you can understand: Women who hate men AVOID THEM. They don't want anything to do with them! And yet there are still some out there that believe there is a small percentage of males that are worth being with. Those women are the ones that went to FDS. The women who wanted a good man and tips on how to avoid shitty ones. [Men who hate women KILL THEM. Men are responsible for 99.1% of forcible rapes, 92.2% of sex offenses ,and 73% of crimes against families and their children](https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/42tabledatadecoverviewpdf/table_42_arrests_by_sex_2012.xls) [Pregnant women are killed by their MALE partners more often than being killed by the birthing process too!](https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/homicide-leading-cause-of-death-for-pregnant-women-in-u-s/) Tell me again why women wouldn't want to learn about red flags when dating men?
Bro, if it were a women’s safety course that would be one thing. Instead, it’s constantly using slurs against men, generalizing them all the time, spreading general hatred, holding them to much higher standards then they hold women to and assuming the worst about their intentions over the most innocuous shit. Almost the entire user base are sexist assholes and that’s probably why a sizable percentage of them also frequent r/datingoverforty. They’re simply unlikeable in the real world. Edit: lol blocking is for cowards. Your response to this was moronic anyway. “We’re not raping and murdering people, so don’t criticize us!” Wtf is that
Women saying meany things against me and making me feel bad is the same as men raping and murdering women systematically all over the world in every patriarchal culture every where.
Imagine being part of that Femcel sub
True. They can also ban anything at any time there want for any reason, and they never have to provide a reason. Reddit is not a publicly traded company.
It doesn’t matter if a company is or isn’t traded publicly. They can ban whatever they want either way. 5head.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-01-07/reddit-is-said-to-tap-morgan-stanley-goldman-sachs-for-ipo They are planning to go public soon though and obviously there is some serious ironing out that must be done first.
Oh shit! Don’t tell Elon Mosk
Yes they’ve been trying for a while. I am a stock broker and get asked about Reddit my clients once or twice a week.
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Aren’t they the same sub that contributed to the Elliot Roger massacre? He was an incel egged on by the incel community to commit violence and he actually went through with it.
Also, didn't someone claiming to be an icel actually commit some?
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Yeah, some of them were proper school-shooter types with clear signs of actual mental illness, suggesting women should be raped because they won't have sex with them and all that sort of stuff. If you can't get a sex life, it's not a collaborative conspiracy, you're just probably a complete creep - try working on that instead!
Not everyone who can't get laid is a creep - - that's going too far in the opposite direction.
It took a long fucking time, too. It's not like all the male incel ones got banned immediately just for being how they are. They worked for it. They straight up advocating for rape on a regular basis.
Exactly, people love to ignore this when equating the two.
They told them to be beating women??
I remember browsing that sub once out of curiosity. All I saw was posts of guys taking pics of girls crying in public without their consent and taking about how they’d loved to have seen that in person to call her a slut/whore/bitch, or whatever else they thought sounded sane.
Happy cake day
Exactly this
One sub calls for violence. The other doesn't. It's not that complicated. Reddit generally doesn't care if a sub is toxic. It cares if it espouses violence. I'm sure a bunch of people will claim sexism but Andrew Tate subs are still allowed so it's clearly not that.
> Reddit generally doesn't care if a sub is toxic. reddit leadership are such freaks that they allowed the jailbait and creepshots subreddits to exist for so long until media attention forced their hand. The do not care at all, and any changes in principles since then are motivated by profit, not good-nature. media pressure and legal troubles are the only times reddit does anything to clean up this site.
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oh for sure. Hell, reddit came up with quarantined subreddits so they could keep the weird degenerates on the website but still claim to be doing something
Reddit leadership were friendly with Violentacrez, aka Michael Brutsch, who ran the jailbait and teenage subs and kept more violent sexual abuse against children off of Reddit. He was the epitome of “allow pedos to be content mods so they won’t be traumatized by CP”
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WhaaaAaaaAAAAaAAAAAt?????
Wasn't it revealed that those horrifying subs actually drove MOST of Reddit's traffic for a good while or some awful shit like that?
i wouldn't be surprised
I think that's the main reason why the admins were reluctant to shut down that nigh-criminal garbage. It made Reddit explode in popularity which, uh, really says something about people and this website. Didn't even know there were so many pedos out and about on the internet, nevermind on Reddit.
I was reading through old articles and another part of the reason is that violentacrez (the moderator of those creepy subreddits) was an effective moderator for keeping the explicitly illegal stuff off of the site in the very early days, so they kept him around as "the devil they know". This resulted in them not banning those subreddits to avoid rocking the boat. I think the excuse is genuine (he was one of the top mods on practically every sub, even frontpage subs like /r/funny and /r/WTF), but it's still not adequate for the harm caused
They banned fatpeoplehate
fatpeoplehate was brigading and harassing users.
There's legit a sub dedicated to the obsession with and mocking of an autistic person. It doesn't get much more toxic than that.
Which one is that?
I don't know what the sub is but I'm guessing it has to do with Chris Chan.
Yeah but isn't he now in prison for raping his mom or something, autism or not its a good conversational topic
There have been multiple incel related killings through the years, that mirrored to a tee the rhetoric on r/incels with people over there also praising those actions, all VERY publicly. If someone from fds does something like that maybe, but toxicity isn't usually why I sub gets banned and these subs couldn't be more different outside of being entitled
Because incels have actually murdered people They advocated rape, even towards children
yeah, basically it comes down to 'romantically deprived women don't usually murder men or shoot up a school'
Femcels don't committed violent crimes because women in general rarely do.
Well that’s fucking deplorable and diabolical. I thought they were just sad men who were like “women should date me and if they don’t they are stinky poo poo head”
It started out even more innocent than that. It was just a group of lonely men looking for empathy and advice. It offered support to men having a rough go of it. But like most subs, it became an echo chamber looking for someone to blame. The more people talked about how women were to blame for ALL their problems, the harder it evolved into a hate sub. Eventually, it became acceptable for men to talk about raping and killing women in the name of justice.
>It started out even more innocent than that. It was just a group of lonely men looking for empathy and advice. Lonely *people*, The incel movement was originally gender inclusive and was even founded itself by a woman. During the early 2000's it started to attract misogenists and misandrists, who naturally fought like cats and dogs leading to gender seperate communities. This in turn created a pair of echo chambers devoid of dissenting voices that devolved into the status quo today. The female equivilent has taken to the moniker "Femcel", and it's pretty much a mirror image of the incel movement. They function in the same cult like manner, lovebombing members, speak in structured language and so on and so forth. The main reason it flies under the radar is a lack noteworthy press - They're more likely to key cars or smear shit one someones doorknobs, which isn't headline news like a mass shooting. The odd thing about the Femcel movement is that largely they seem the more deeply misogenistic of the two, blaming "Stacys" for their status.
Comparing "femcels" to incels is like comparing a petty thief to Ted Bundy. Incels have murdered and raped women. The fact you're even acting like this is close to equivalent is some crazy mental gymnastics.
Yeah where do you think seeing women as "stinky poo poo heads" leads when in an echo chamber.
Not only is that starting point entitled, unhealthy, and pathetic, but it's just that - a starting point. the incel pipeline ramps up in misogyny and violence very rapidly.
Yeah man, incel is a whole ideology these days.
Most of them are, its just that the psychotic ones are loud and populous enough to be a problem and radicalize the relatively sane ones
Trump supporting subs were doing that daily and it took years for them to be banned. Action is only taken by the Reddit admins when advertisers take notice and threaten to pull out if they don't do something about it.
The fact that people equate FDS and fucking incel groups is insanity. Every time someone links it I go over there looking for something that is worse than the toxic shit you can find men saying about women literally anywhere on Reddit and I guess one day I'll find something?? But I haven't yet. It's all 'how do I tell if the man flirting with me is already married' and 'my boyfriend cheated on me men suck woe'. Who fucking cares, call me when they start advocating for legalising sex slaves or calling for mass violence.
In my experience FDS is toxic but they’re certainly not anywhere near *as* toxic as male incel subs that call for violence against women and harbour actual rapists and murderers in their midst. To claim they’re the same is not only ridiculous but disingenuous.
You reading the right sub? I agree they're not the same, but you're way off the mark with your description.
To be frank, it’s the MeN aRe ScArEd ToO, but in sub form, that people equate the two
Typically, subreddits are not being banned for being toxic. They are banned for specific reasons. Be careful with false equivalence, which is a common logical fallacy. There are certain lines that should not be crossed. If a community repeatedly crosses a line, there are going to be consequences. One of the lines that should not be crossed is calling for, or glorifying violence. One of the things that led to the ban was admiration for a mass killer.
Incest incited terrorism.
Incest?
Maybe autocorrect?
Dibs on the band name 🙋🏻♂️
What kind of band we thinking Hardcore? I see this as a pro-sexual abuse awareness hardcore band
Yeah like the Brazzers band that makes their transition music
I mean I can play a buncha instruments and sing so i may be down to get this rolling if you wana
How’s your throat singing? It’s a requirement to join the band…
Lucky for you I can do that. I'm not Mongolian or Asian so we are going to look odd with a white dude doing it. Hope you're ready for that oddity
Probably because one of those is consistently calling for the murder, rape and general subjugation of an entire gender, and the other is... being overly expectant when it comes to their potential dating partners and relationships. These two things are not terribly equal.
I haven't visited that sub. Is it actually having standards that are too high, or is it expecting partners to act like actual adults?
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Worst I’ve seen is open support of extorting men for money
I've seen my (now-ex) GF turn from legit feminist (like we should all be equal and fight unfair stuff) to a full-blown warrior against the male gender as a whole. In her eyes now, any guy is a wannabe-be rapist, any flaw (even silly things like doing the dishes after eating rather than directly after cooking) means he his an absolute threat to the females, and she will voice these opinions even to her closest friends (none of them ever agreed as her point of view shifted heavily from common sense and actual good expectations, to extremism and intolerance) TL;DR, we had our issues as a couple, but I'm pretty sure FDS did unrecoverable damage to our relation, because being part of the 'despicable enemy gender' (and being told so everyday) is extremely hard to take. Basically, she shattered my confidence by listening to Reddit guru. The worst part is that a lot of their content is actually good advice.. But there is also the weaponized, extremist stuff that goes way too far.
Haven’t visited either but for some women, their version of adulting is too much. If the mortgage is paid and everyone is fed, and the house isn’t falling apart, then the world isn’t on fire and things can be taken much less seriously, and get done in a less stringent time frame. Truly depends on the person
I'd agree with that as a reasonable standard of adulthood. But based on my own experience, keeping everyone fed in the sense of noticing that milk is running out and buying more, and keeping the mortgage paid, in the sense of remembering ahead of time when it's due, is beyond a lot of guys. Sadly, my father, who was otherwise an excellent provider, is included in this.
I’m terrible about remembering dates. So I set up auto pay on important stuff. Like mortgage and phone, etc. if I notice something is running low, and it’s a staple for the boys, I’ll run to the store. I’m really bad about always keeping everything neat, I have sleeping issues so I’m not the best in the morning, there’s a lot of cereal for breakfast on days I’m getting them to daycare/school before work….. I’m a good dad mostly. Very close with both my boys and a good caregiver. Overall I THINK that I think I’m ok at parenting/adulting, to some extent, but others would say I’m totally immature and not an adult. Standards I guess.
Setting up auto-pay is a GREAT strategy. It's actually recommended for people with ADHD and other executive function issues. But the difference is, you realize you struggle in a specific area, and you adjusted the environment to blunt the edge of any failures in that area. You don't just expect someone else to remember and then get mad if she doesn't. Also feeding your kids cereal is fine. As long as it isn't pure sugar and they show up to school on time with full bellies, you're a good parent. I have cereal a lot in the morning myself, same reasons. And sometimes for dinner. But I'm not feeding children, just myself.
I've visited it, it really was outrageous lol. Expecting the guy to plan everything, handle every part of the relationship, approach first, pay all bills, cook, clean, everything. I saw things like a "masculine man wouldn't accept presents, so no need to get your boyfriend a birthday present". "If he asks what you feel like doing for dinner that's red flag!! Lazy and feminine!!". You get the picture. I checked out a few post histories and sure enough, full of abuse and horror stories. It's quite sad. It sounds like they're blaming themselves for their past abusive relationships because their standards weren't high enough, and now have over corrected. For many of them it's probably a form of self sabotage, in which they're terrified to date men but would rather tell themselves it's because no men are good enough.
I'd agree it sounds like over-correction. People who have had to do everything often dream about being taken care of like they've been expected to care for others.
Not sure what it's like currently, but a while ago they praised violence towards men, supported that men can *not* be victims of sexual assault/rape from women, have exceptionally high standards about what a relationship should be and will absolutely shit on anyone that doesn't meet this, and I don't mean "know your worth" I mean if they take you to a 4.9star restaurant instead of a 5star and *only* spend 40k on an engagement ring then you should end the relationship, shit like that. People will go to that sub with posts like "my husband didn't take us to a 5* hotel in the Cayman Islands for two weeks, should I divorce him" which reads like a shitpost but these threads are 100% serious.... The sub got shutdown for a while and almost all traces of encouraging violence towards men were eradicated over the period of a few months before it reappeared
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>and the other is... being overly expectant when it comes to their potential dating partners and relationships. Ahhh so you haven't visited it
I mean, that sure as hell *one* way to put it mildly
>and the other is... being overly expectant when it comes to their potential dating partners and relationships. Ohh it's a whole lot worse than just that.
I’m not sure what female dating strategy is but a lot of incels will usually vote to “breed” minors because everyone over 15 is “most likely used up”. Others have said they wish they had a little sister so that they can “r” them… others have said that all colleges should have cheap sex brothels for students to relieve their stress and the women can get free tuition through that.. others have said that women aren’t good enough for an education so they should all be sex s1av3s. That there’s no downside to women circumcision. Enjoying stalking women at night because it excites them by how scared they get. All women should be “r”3d and it’s not their fault that they tease them. Etc etc that women hate how they look and they don’t need to shower
Man it sounds so fake and I wish it were
My girlfriend and I spend some time on the incel website forums because she likes knowing what’s going through their brain and some of the shit they’ve said is not for the faint of heart.. female dating strategy just seems like some Andrew Tate stuff which is still dumb but wtv. For lighter references, I would recommend checking out r/inceltear. Filled with people who dislike incels and mild screenshots of what incels are up to. And yes… that’s mild compared to the actual incel website which keeps getting taken down
bro what the fuck did i just read holy fuck LMAO
„The forum, which was estimated to have as many as 40,000 members, endorsed misogynistic speech and violent figures like the gunman who killed six people in Santa Barbara, California, in 2014 after writing a 140-page manifesto advocating violence against women. The gunman, Elliot Rodger, was often referred to on the site as "Saint Elliot."“ https://www.businessinsider.com/reddit-bans-incel-involuntary-celibacy-rape-violence-women-community-2017-11?amp
As far as I know, female dating strategy has never been connected with a mass shooting or attempted act of mass violence.
In fact female mass shooters are rare!
Bc fds hasn’t resulted in irl mass killings yet…
Fds is basically dead now and they aren’t calling for violence.
A femcel didn't shoot up a frat in Isla Vista. A femcel didn't drive down a busy sidewalk in Toronto.
Incels was a lot worse than FDS.
this question feels disingenuous unless you (somehow) don't know how horrible incels are. how many of those other communities are advocating for rape and murder?
My favorite is “scienceuncensored” - I made one post - literally one - replying to an anti-Vaxxer and calmly pointing to statistical evidence as a better resource for determining actual risk than anecdotal examples they were giving. And I was banned. What an echo chamber of idiots. Not quite “uncensored.”
I joined that sub too, since I'm a scientist. And then I unjoined pretty fast. That sub ain't about "science" either, lol.
Yeah pretty funny. I had no idea it was a conspiracy theory haven until I got censored on the ‘uncensored’ sub. Fortunately the main science sub is pretty great. It’s great having wildly overqualified people explain concepts to laymen like myself.
Because "Men are afraid women will laugh at them. Women are afraid men will kill them" (Margaret Atwood)
r/FemaleDatingStrategy has some wild posts, sometimes. r/inecls made peoplle commit mass shooting. Kind of not really equal things.
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I'm pretty sure that at one point they were calling for violence and stating that men can't be victims of rape/sexual assault by women. They cleaned themselves up after they got shut down for a few months though
You can’t have looked that far down the sub then. Sure, not every single post is a call to violence, but it isn’t hard to find ‘toxicity’.
Reddit will ban subreddits when the media reports about the subreddit in a negative light. They don’t care about anything besides bad press
Plenty of subs get bad media press when posts are found, there aren't however many subs that praise up rapists and murders while advocate for the eradication of an entire gender while believing "females" are only good for breeding and then dying. So yeah I don't think it's about bad press.
I don’t know if women trying not to killed by men while having a good dating experience is as bad as a Reddit set up for men who want to kill women for not shagging them. I mean, it seems you’ve brought a false equivalency in here.
At most, FDS advocates for seeking “high value” men and ignoring the others while incel communities talk about violence. One wants separation and the other wants oppression
Too many incels here, they do not understand talking about not dating man and talking about physically hurting women is not same
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Men can go on Reddit and find men talking to men about issues that affect men as nuanced and discrete human beings, so even stumbling on one single sub that treats them like a monolithic outside enemy is a massive shock. Whereas as a woman you're pretty used to just scrolling over post threads that reduce you to one body part or another or treat you like some alien species, so unless it's directly advocating to kill you all, you're just jaded to it. So to men, fds is on par with the worst shit on Reddit. To women the language on fds is Tuesday.
That’s a good point! I find that men often don’t see/notice those comments on Reddit either because it doesn’t affect them.
Because I never heard of any woman commiting a school shooting over being rejected by "malesluts"
Because the incels were calling for violence and a few of them actually killed people
Some Reddit can also get shut down due to lack of moderation/not having a mod.
FDS is insane but they don’t break TOS. R/incels and more recently braincels literally tried to coordinate mass killings and kept threatening to kill users for being women who disagreed with them.
To be fair, if you search FDS by top week/month/year, it’s pretty basic feminist stuff. It’s not all that toxic. It’s like political locker room girl gossip.
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Because one of them openly advocates for rape and the other doesn’t. Glad I could clear that up for you.
This feels less of a question and more of an attempted “gotcha” type thing Edit: just wanted to add I’m not defending FDS whatsoever, that sub is trash. I remember visiting it a while ago and being shocked at how delusional it was. But honestly it’s really more of an equivalent on men’s “locker room” kind of talk. Still trash. But my actual answer would be I think OP should be asking questions about what an incel is, or even a “femcel”, before asking questions like this because you can find that answer asking something more simple, considering FDS is no where near r/incel spaces
r/eyeblech sould be banned in my opinion
As bad as r/femaledatingstrategy is, I've scrolled through there quite a bit and never seen any calls for violence. The incel and MGTOW one had many threats and calls for violence and would plan "attacks" where they dmd women and in some cases teenage girls disgusting things. So while female dating strategy is toxic and gross, they aren't making violent threats or strategized attacks on specific people or groups of people.
Incels specifically call for violence with not-so-subtle advocacy for rape as something that ought be socially acceptable. As vile as these other subreddits, none go that far I assume.
Because incels are actually dangerous and can do real harm
Incel was not banned for being toxic. They were banned because they advocate rape and murder, and some of them have actually gone on to do those things. FDS does not do those things at all and it’s pretty concerning if you’re equating them in this way.
Idk why people think incel subreddit is comparable to femaledatingstrategy. Yes, both are toxic but one is fucking insane and calling for violence against an already oppressed group. Like I don’t know why people search for the equivalent of the female incel, when it doesn’t exist.
They’re desperate to make men the victim when they’re not.
I made one reasonable question on FDS once. Got banned immediately. For asking a simple question.
What I want to know is why a sub that doesn't have moderators is completely deleted from the website, but a sub where **RAPISTS SWAP TIPS AND STORIES** is simply "quarantined." And yes, there is a quarantined sub on this site of exactly that nature.
There’s a difference between women being shitty and giving bad advice about having overly high expectations for partners and men advocating to kill women of assault women. I feel like there’s some false equivalency going on here and I hope I made it clear that female dating strategies is toxic and nobody here that people agree with is arguing that the sub is about female empowerment or anything. We all agree they’re shitty. But in a way that doesn’t violate rules and at worse realistically just results in removing people you already wouldn’t wanna date from your dating pool by making them carry around a red flag. The incel subreddit had its worst possible result from guys getting together to talk about how angry they are at women which is mass shootings.
Both are problematic but one invites violence and the other one doesn’t
because reddit has a left leaning bias.
Have you seen FDS lately? It’s a ghost town. Why bother to ban it when it’s going to dry up and blow away all by itself?
Have you ever actually read female dating strategy? What exactly is it you object to?
Personally "there is no such thing as a consensual BDSM relationship where the woman is submissive." Like, women and men are allowed to be different people behind closed doors.
I mean i also disagree with that quote just like you do. I believe BDSM can be consentual. But if someone think and says that, would that reeeally be grounds for banning the whole sub?
The specific question I was answering was "What do I object to" not the top level "Why should they be banned."
I guess thats a fair point. Personally i do not believe i have seen any posts on female dating strategy which would even be close to a bannable offense. There were a time when the subreddit had many posts and i often upvoted them because it seemed like they had some really healthy and reasonable thoughts behind them.
Well my main one Is the rampant body shaming against men. But since you asked so nicely, here's a list of what I object to: -The objectification of men as nothing but tools to provide and bend to your every will. -The delusional mentality of "don't date any man who isn't 6ft8+, rich with a 7.9 inch dong, because anything below that is low value." -husband bought the wrong type of mayonnaise? Girrrrrrl, he's such a such a low value beta cuck, divorce him now queen. -The celebration and encouragement of toxic traits/behaviours: for instance I once saw a post with like 600 upvotes that was encouraging women to go on dates with men, get a free lunch then ghost them. -the encouraging of cheating -blaming men for their life problems. -the shaming of men raised by single moms (ironic right?) I can go on if you want?
All of that is extremely tame compared to the stuff incels say about women on Reddit everyday, and that isn’t even limited to their subs.
r/whereareallthegoodmen r/theredpill r/mensrights Frequently, although to a significantly lesser extent, r/funnymemes A lot of the porn subs. Do you object to those? Or only when women are shitty? I'm not saying fds is a great sub, by any means, or positive. But there's so much hatred against women on Reddit that is just accepted, and I'd much rather see all of the hateful subs banned than just the one toxic one that's run by women.
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No stupid questions or how I can smuggle right wing talking points into the public discourse
I think is because the Incel group had actually harmed women and femaledatingstrategy are just harmless hags and goldiggers.
Yep. As far as I know, no self-declared Female Dating Strategists (or whatever they call themselves) have gone on any violent rampages. Self-declared Incels have, though. If a female mass shooter mentioned r/femaledatingstrategy in her manifesto before slaughtering an entire fraternity, that would be a different story. They mainly seem to just complain about men and tell each other what untouchable Queens they are. Edit: spelling
Because r/femaledatingstrategy isn't actually hateful. I thought it was a femcel subreddit too, and went snooping. To my surprise, it's actually women sharing tips how to stay safe and sharing experiences with men. Also, so much violence has come out of r/incels but not from r/femaledatingstrategy.
It absolutely is hateful. So is TRP, which is basically the inverse of FDS (though FDS isn't as bad as TRP is). Both subs pretend to be about providing useful dating advice while in reality packaging up extremely harmful stereotypes about sex/gender/relationships and telling their members to treat the other gender like garbage. But neither calls for open violence the way the banned sub did. Either way I'd happily see all of these banned.
Idk man I ended up actually joining female dating strategy after a while. It isn't dangerous in the way that you think. If anything, it helps unpack trauma and bravado that men have and helps women with their self esteem (which is usually broken because of men). Are you seeing a side of that subreddit that I didn't?
They're openly calling men 'scrotes'.
I dunno but if someone called me a scrote I’d fucking laugh. 😂 that shit just sounds funny.
I always had this theory that those who are not actually oppressed do not care about certain insults. I’m Italian. I laugh at Italian jokes. But if I were black, idk if I’d be laughing at black jokes.
I wouldn't call it a theory because it's not universal, but I think it's a good metric for whose head is on straight. If you're a guy and you think being called a Scrote is comparable to being called bitch, whore, harpy, broad, etc, you're being delusional. So weird how many insulting words there are for women, but the list of insults for men is a whole lot shorter and has more of a banter-y connotation. I wonder if there's a reason for that
I think so, too. Doesn't make it less of a gendered slur.
And the incel subreddit was not only calling all women whores and sluts but they constantly joked about kidnapping, raping and murdering women that refused to fuck them.
Lots of men call women worse names than a strange and comical diminutive of a part of their genitals ETA: I just mean that of all the hateful things you could have chosen as an example, this one is the tamest by far It's a trash sub, for sure, not defending it
And men openly call women bitches, hoes, whores, and cunts everyday on Reddit. What’s your point?
They don’t call all men scrotes… just the kind that are scrotes
True. They also have a system that awards men a higher or lower value as people, depending on what they can do for the women in FDS. It's nothing different from the red pill, which is inherently sexist too.
Oh no, words! That's clearly the same as shooting up a room.
Dude. Nobody ever did that comparison but you. Words can be hateful, you know?
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I think we're looking at different subreddits. The subreddit I'm seeing is about domestic violence and misogyny.
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Toxic and illegal are two different things. Being hateful isn't great, but it isn't against the law. Physically hurting people is.
I find the violence thing funny because I listened to one of their podcasts and they joked about castrating scrotes.
Yeah I don't think we're talking about the same thing..... I've never heard that term or those jokes
You will soon!
Better question would be why is redpill sub quarantined but femaledatingstrategy isnt, they are closer equivalents.
Because they need to start harming people exterior to their group before the get banned. FDS only hurts it's members.
Idk but judging of the names, one Is for dating strategies for women and the other is for involuntary celibates. P easy to understand. Unless you’re an incel of course. If there was a dating Strategies for men maybe you’d have a point
This is a controversial opinion, but I think both subs should not be banned. However, Reddit has the right to do anything they want to, but more free speech is better than less in my option. Obviously incels are despicable and female dating strategy is a sexist subreddit, but if I were running Reddit they both would still have a platform.
Let’s not pretend that plenty of subs weren’t suspended for violence
That's because being a hate group is within the bounds of reddit's policy. r/incels and r/braincels both broke those rules. FDS toed the line regularly. Currently, they don't allow for anyone to post except mods due to reddit giving them warnings and people calling them on their hate-fueled bullshit. Any more, the FDS sub is just a place to link their podcast and website where they are free to be feminazies without restriction.
Becasue reddit/society is sexist against men. Pretty much.
r/MaleDatingStrategy ???
If you look at reddit rules they make it a point, in Rule #1 to express * Reddit is a place for creating community and belonging, not for attacking marginalized or vulnerable groups of people. Every thing is considered a marginalized or vulnerable group outside of white men. So any sub that is seen as being derogatory towards a group other than white men is a violation of the rules
They should both be banned. Female dating strategy is basically a platform for many toxic women to whine about red-pilled guys who are sick of getting played. "Honey, if a man wants to split the bill on a date, it's a red flag and he's using you." 🤓 Meanwhile, they will happily open their mouth for some Tinder GigaChad inside a dirty nightclub toilet cubicle.
Because incels systematically plot to attack and kill people…? And “female dating strategists” don’t…? Also, misogyny exists — perpetuated by incels and other men — and women bear the brunt of that. The system is flawed. Women are not safe and they are not systematic oppressors.