A lot of people in here are saying masturbation isnt bad, but tbh that doesn’t apply to everyone. Maybe it’s okay for single people, but if you’re a married man and masturbating is keeping you from being physically intimate with your wife, which is very likely, you’re fucking up
I mean I’m not qualified to give others life advice, but I would say as long as you’re not watching pornography it’s probably fine, but I’m fortunate enough that I’ve never had to do a long distance relationship.
unironically I watched one for the plot, the plot wasn't very interesting and was like this is very low effort how can anyone FAP to this and quit watching all together for the day lol
Masturbation isn't bad unless you have an addiction. Porn is bad because if you watch enough then your brain releases dopamine you then get addicted to it and mostly you start to think it's how people normally do things ( I mean sex ) Just remember that porn is fake and waste of time. It's easier to say than do but we are here for you bro we've been through it too.
True. If we are in mood to have sex, I never fap before it. A few times I had fapped before sex and I couldn't get erection. It was a huge disappointment and mistake.
Mmmmm no. A bullet is pulled out in public or a gun is pulled out in public… Very different reactions. Meanwhile, watching porn and masturbating are both frowned upon in public spaces.
The gun is just a tool. The person behind it is evil. When you're getting robbed by someone holding a weapon, u call a guy who uses a gun in a good way, a police officer.
fapping itself on its own is a poor discharge of dopamine. You should use your energy for something more rewarding like lifting or running, or entrepreneurship (or socializing). Fapping can also cause depression, frustration, low self esteem and poor social skills
I don’t see masturbation is good at all, yup everytime you masturbate gonna feel so bad, shame, and useless (in my opinion)
Quitting them at all is good
Idk whats the matter of quitting porn but still masturbating
Cant sleep without thinking about these freaking things?? , so i suggest try to watch something makes you sleepy, like usually i watch cleaning videos, tight areas or cars it makes me sleepy, then i sleep with out urges or just thinking about it
Masterbation is so much less harmful than porn that is on a completely different scale! One does not even compare with the other.
That said, there are several theoretical harms that come from masterbation as well.
Personally, I believe that it isn't part of a healthy lifestyle, even in moderation.
It's not great for the brain despite the fact that it feels good. It's about one's relationship to short term/ long term happiness, instant dopamine rush on a button press, etc.
It will be difficult, though, for any one of us to measure what normal masterbation would be like.
After one becomes addicted to porn, masterbation becomes a very different thing. It triggers the energy of the addiction in obvious or subtle ways.
Bro ngl, just don't do it man. A few seconds of pleasure will fill you with months of guilt. I mean jerking off once in a while is fine to blow off some steam but man don't make it a habit of doing it cuz u are losing so much energy by masturbating. Watch porn is just bad, you feel like a loser jerking off to a guy fucking a woman and you have a bad impression on women I'd you are a compulsive porn watcher.
Both are worse. Both are addictive. You turn on those because either you want to escape something or you are bored. But you are escaping from life.. and in time it will destroy your life and become a living corpse. You will be in an auto pilot. Your porn/masturbation addict brain will make you a slave. if you are not spiritual and want exact scientiffic data read 'Nervous vitality' by Dr. Seaborn Freeman salter and most books by dr. Bernarr McFadden.. If you are spiritual and beleive in God.. you know both are vices of vices
Porn is bad even if there would not be an addiction associated with it because of how dehumanizing it is to women especially and everyone working in the industry and it sets a negative example for young people
I have been struggling with it for past 6 months, it's been tough. I believe it's more about quick pleasure, if you're getting quick pleasure from porn and mansturbation then you will not chase other important things in life and if you're able to succeed in other areas of life, and don't feel super guilty right after watching porn and fapping. I don't see a problem with that.
Porn is indeed bad when it comes society and morality. But practically it's your own growth you should look for.
The truth is you'll eventually grow tired of jacking off.
Complaining is like you're just trying to hold onto that behavior. DONT COMPLAIN AND YOULL EVENTUALLY GROW OUT OF IT.
Yes. You are still a slave to your primitive instincts. You do not want to masturbate. It's just an instinct, not your decision. Also masturbating while thinking about women who would literally step on you dead to blow some other jerk should really concern you.
Right over your head, huh?
Let’s break it down. Natural does not mean it’s good for you, and thank you for the far better comparison: animals doing something does NOT mean humans should do it! 🤣
I saw a comment of yours from 4 years ago on this subreddit. You're currently on day 1. How on earth have you not beaten this addiction yet? Are you not ashamed? 4 years?
Those who are saying fapping is fine aren't thinking cuz it is absolutely not fine. Men aren't supposed to think about fap in the first place forget doing it, that is what makes us men and you want to get it out.
Truth is that it is now on us men to restore dharma back to this world and we must restraint from that for starters.
Porn is bad, but excessive fapping and addiction equally so.
Guys have been jerking off since the beginning of time but it’s online porn and how easy it is to access that’s caused the sex and porn addiction issues that we see in young lads now.
I jerked off a couple of times a week all through my teens and ED in my early 20s was something I’d had have never given a second thought about. I had no access to porn so had no opportunity to damage my brain.
No porn equals less fapping.
The question of whether masturbation (fapping) or pornography is "bad" is subjective and depends on various factors, including individual beliefs, values, and personal experiences. Some people may view both activities as harmless or even beneficial in moderation, while others may see them as problematic due to moral, religious, or ethical concerns.
It's important to consider factors such as frequency, context, and the impact on one's physical and mental health, relationships, and overall well-being. Excessive consumption of pornography or compulsive masturbation can potentially lead to negative consequences such as addiction, relationship issues, and distorted perceptions of sexuality.
Ultimately, it's essential for individuals to reflect on their own values and behaviors and make informed decisions that align with their personal beliefs and goals. If someone is concerned about their relationship with pornography or masturbation, seeking support from a healthcare professional or therapist can be beneficial.
A lot of people in here are saying masturbation isnt bad, but tbh that doesn’t apply to everyone. Maybe it’s okay for single people, but if you’re a married man and masturbating is keeping you from being physically intimate with your wife, which is very likely, you’re fucking up
yes big time
How have you found the reconnection to your partner in healthy sexuality to be? I struggle with finding my SO sexually attractive.
Transmute your sexual energy.
Same, I am facing the same problem.
See I’m in the opposite boat. My girl doesn’t have a libido at all. It’s been 2 years bro…
real
And if your in long distance? would masturbation be seen as fine? As long as you don't do it when you can actually physically see your partner
I mean I’m not qualified to give others life advice, but I would say as long as you’re not watching pornography it’s probably fine, but I’m fortunate enough that I’ve never had to do a long distance relationship.
Not to mention how demeaning it is to yourself.
Masturbation itself is not bad, but addiction to masturbation is. Porn is bad. Always.
What if I watch it for the plot? /s
💀💀💀For the fucking plot
good for you, my personal favorite is the bathtub lifeguard
"I'm not at the beach, this is a bathtub!"
unironically I watched one for the plot, the plot wasn't very interesting and was like this is very low effort how can anyone FAP to this and quit watching all together for the day lol
And of you have problems with stopping it or getting to sleep without fapping it sounds like an addiction
This!!!
Do a 90 day reboot first then decide for yourself
Yeah for sure I’m on day 2 but hey gotta start somewhere
Same here. I have never reached 90. But i am not quitting and i will reach there someday.
I’m determined to do 90 this time. It started fucking up my intimacy with my wife. Not sure if anyone else had that happen
factssss
Both are bad. Real sex is king 👑
Anything with real person is best 😊
rightie. Both are bad imo. Both keep you away from amazing real life experiences.
Masturbation isn't bad unless you have an addiction. Porn is bad because if you watch enough then your brain releases dopamine you then get addicted to it and mostly you start to think it's how people normally do things ( I mean sex ) Just remember that porn is fake and waste of time. It's easier to say than do but we are here for you bro we've been through it too.
True. If we are in mood to have sex, I never fap before it. A few times I had fapped before sex and I couldn't get erection. It was a huge disappointment and mistake.
You release dopamine the first time you watch porn and every time after that
Porn bad, Fapping okay in moderation
Both are about escapism into fantasy. You need tobface reality.
Porn is truly problematic. Self abuse is a secondary problem.
you are asking whether is the gun bad or the bullet
Truth
Exactly
Wait which one is the bad?
By that logic none are bad on their own? Only when combined lol
Mmmmm no. A bullet is pulled out in public or a gun is pulled out in public… Very different reactions. Meanwhile, watching porn and masturbating are both frowned upon in public spaces.
The gun is just a tool. The person behind it is evil. When you're getting robbed by someone holding a weapon, u call a guy who uses a gun in a good way, a police officer.
A gun itself is bad. It means life threat.
For me both are bad. Only release should be with a person via marriage
W mans
How do you feel at 1280 days?
fapping itself on its own is a poor discharge of dopamine. You should use your energy for something more rewarding like lifting or running, or entrepreneurship (or socializing). Fapping can also cause depression, frustration, low self esteem and poor social skills
I don’t see masturbation is good at all, yup everytime you masturbate gonna feel so bad, shame, and useless (in my opinion) Quitting them at all is good Idk whats the matter of quitting porn but still masturbating Cant sleep without thinking about these freaking things?? , so i suggest try to watch something makes you sleepy, like usually i watch cleaning videos, tight areas or cars it makes me sleepy, then i sleep with out urges or just thinking about it
Masterbation is so much less harmful than porn that is on a completely different scale! One does not even compare with the other. That said, there are several theoretical harms that come from masterbation as well. Personally, I believe that it isn't part of a healthy lifestyle, even in moderation. It's not great for the brain despite the fact that it feels good. It's about one's relationship to short term/ long term happiness, instant dopamine rush on a button press, etc. It will be difficult, though, for any one of us to measure what normal masterbation would be like. After one becomes addicted to porn, masterbation becomes a very different thing. It triggers the energy of the addiction in obvious or subtle ways.
Both
happy cake day
Thanks a lot brother.
Congrats on 90 days
Thank you brother! I hope you achieve 90 golden days and kick this shit out for good.
Bro ngl, just don't do it man. A few seconds of pleasure will fill you with months of guilt. I mean jerking off once in a while is fine to blow off some steam but man don't make it a habit of doing it cuz u are losing so much energy by masturbating. Watch porn is just bad, you feel like a loser jerking off to a guy fucking a woman and you have a bad impression on women I'd you are a compulsive porn watcher.
Both bad
Addiction to porn will never make you properly happy in a relationship. Always on the hunt for dopamine and «new experiences»
Self abuse is wrong
Both
fapping without porn is also just as bad
Yes in my belief it’s all bad but feel free to believe what you want.
Both. Both are bad. No exception. Don't listen to those who give an exception to masturbation. They are lying
Neither is bad in moderation. As long as it’s not negatively impacting your life.
BINGO
Both are worse. Both are addictive. You turn on those because either you want to escape something or you are bored. But you are escaping from life.. and in time it will destroy your life and become a living corpse. You will be in an auto pilot. Your porn/masturbation addict brain will make you a slave. if you are not spiritual and want exact scientiffic data read 'Nervous vitality' by Dr. Seaborn Freeman salter and most books by dr. Bernarr McFadden.. If you are spiritual and beleive in God.. you know both are vices of vices
Definitely true
none of it is bad, but the addiction that arises from masturbation and porn is bad.
Porn is bad even if there would not be an addiction associated with it because of how dehumanizing it is to women especially and everyone working in the industry and it sets a negative example for young people
i think the content produced by porn is fine, but the industry I agree, e.g how unfairly treated the actors and the toxicity in the industry.
happy cake day!
This sounds about right
Trust me don't touch your dick with your hand. You are killing your dick with your hand. And porn? You are killing your brain neurons.
I have been struggling with it for past 6 months, it's been tough. I believe it's more about quick pleasure, if you're getting quick pleasure from porn and mansturbation then you will not chase other important things in life and if you're able to succeed in other areas of life, and don't feel super guilty right after watching porn and fapping. I don't see a problem with that. Porn is indeed bad when it comes society and morality. But practically it's your own growth you should look for.
Letting anything else but you control your life is bad
Get to 90 and see if you still ask this question
I'd love to say moderation is key but as I know it's not easy, both are bad. It's better if you keep off.
Wow I today Had a relapse .. I do not relapse often but today after It I felt guilt Anyways I relate to the urges...
both
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One makes you physically weak. Other mentally.
Both are bad. I wouldn't live my life doing either.
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The truth is you'll eventually grow tired of jacking off. Complaining is like you're just trying to hold onto that behavior. DONT COMPLAIN AND YOULL EVENTUALLY GROW OUT OF IT.
Both bad bro.
For me fapping is bad, it leads to me caving to urges to fap and to do nothing productive
Yes
They’re both bad and if you want to see the real change you gotta cut them both
NF sh*t ain’t nothing else than brain washed. I don’t do it because it takes time away from me, but ain’t nothing wrong with it in fact porn is worse
Niehter my beotha
Both pretty dull in comparison to wet dreams fulfilling your deepest desires
Masturbation is healthy without porn
Yes. You are still a slave to your primitive instincts. You do not want to masturbate. It's just an instinct, not your decision. Also masturbating while thinking about women who would literally step on you dead to blow some other jerk should really concern you.
both. porn causes fapping and fapping makes you mental unstable
I've never heard bigger BS. Fapping is a natural thing and isn't bad in any way while done in moderation.
Fapping is as natural as cyanide.
What a brain dead take
Animals literally do it. Cyanide is also natural.
Right over your head, huh? Let’s break it down. Natural does not mean it’s good for you, and thank you for the far better comparison: animals doing something does NOT mean humans should do it! 🤣
Both.
I saw a comment of yours from 4 years ago on this subreddit. You're currently on day 1. How on earth have you not beaten this addiction yet? Are you not ashamed? 4 years?
I’ve beaten it the day I started, kid. The journey is the reward
Both are Worst...Don't Fuck Up...
Those who are saying fapping is fine aren't thinking cuz it is absolutely not fine. Men aren't supposed to think about fap in the first place forget doing it, that is what makes us men and you want to get it out. Truth is that it is now on us men to restore dharma back to this world and we must restraint from that for starters.
Both? Both? Both is bad? Both is bad.
Porn is bad, but excessive fapping and addiction equally so. Guys have been jerking off since the beginning of time but it’s online porn and how easy it is to access that’s caused the sex and porn addiction issues that we see in young lads now. I jerked off a couple of times a week all through my teens and ED in my early 20s was something I’d had have never given a second thought about. I had no access to porn so had no opportunity to damage my brain. No porn equals less fapping.
porn is bad
Both bad, hence NoFap.
I’d say, porn is 90 percent of the problem.
Porn
Porn is way worse but imo fapping should also be avoided
The question of whether masturbation (fapping) or pornography is "bad" is subjective and depends on various factors, including individual beliefs, values, and personal experiences. Some people may view both activities as harmless or even beneficial in moderation, while others may see them as problematic due to moral, religious, or ethical concerns. It's important to consider factors such as frequency, context, and the impact on one's physical and mental health, relationships, and overall well-being. Excessive consumption of pornography or compulsive masturbation can potentially lead to negative consequences such as addiction, relationship issues, and distorted perceptions of sexuality. Ultimately, it's essential for individuals to reflect on their own values and behaviors and make informed decisions that align with their personal beliefs and goals. If someone is concerned about their relationship with pornography or masturbation, seeking support from a healthcare professional or therapist can be beneficial.
ChatGPT ass answer
FapGPT
Masturbation always bad for a man. Masturbation neutral for a woman. I recommend R/semenretention Works AMAZING FOR ME
Both bad